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Episode 7: The Ghost Lady of Mineral Wells, Texas: Angela Morgan · Hidden Creatures: Stories, Sightings, and the Search for What Hides in the Dark

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Hidden Creatures.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stories, sightings, and the search for what hides in the dark.
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  SPEAKER_01: Join us as we explore mysterious encounters, legendary creatures, and unexplained stories from around the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: From eyewitness accounts to local folklore, we'll follow the clues in search for the truth behind the unknown.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some stories may be unsettling, eerie, or hard to forget.
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  SPEAKER_01: Listener discretion is advised.
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  SPEAKER_00: Something is out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Waiting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Join us as we step into the shadows.
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  SPEAKER_00: Follow the trail into the unknown.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is Hidden Creatures.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's begin.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the Hidden Creatures Podcast.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm your host, Lori Chen, and with me is my co-host Kristen Jones.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_04: Hi.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_04: Today we're super excited to have Angela with us.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_04: Angela, I want to thank you for taking time out of your schedule during your busiest season of the year.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_04: I can't believe it's going to be October next week and prime time for ghost hunting.
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  SPEAKER_04: So we'd love to hear all about you and the ghost tours that you host in Mineral Wells.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: Hello, ladies.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for having me.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: It is definitely a beautiful day to talk about some spooky stories for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: So thank y'all for having me out.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: So my name is Angela Morgan.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see, about 15 years ago, I petitioned the city of Mineral Wells to host a ghost tour there in Mineral Wales.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: If you've ever been to Mineral Wells or like seen the Baker Hotel, you know it just kind of draws you in.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to believe in ghosts to just want to get out and kind of walk around and see the, you know, the magnificent kind of grand lady that the Baker Hotel is.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then whenever you start hearing stories about it and just the history and things of downtown and how historic it is, it just kind of draws you in and has a little spooky, creepy crawl feel to it.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people come from all over the state as well as other states to come and check out the ghost walk.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm super proud of that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_04: It it does draw you in.
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  SPEAKER_04: You can see it from a distance off the highway.
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  SPEAKER_04: And we are super interested in uh some of the paranormal hotspots in your neck of the woods, including the Baker Hotel.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_04: For listeners who have never heard of the Baker Hotel, how would you describe what makes this place special?
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: So to me, you know, I grew up in Mineral Wells.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: And even though I I grew up there and had a lot of family that actually worked at the hotel, you know, just hearing stories from other people whose like grandparents had got married there, or travelers who had come there and then they believed that the water was helping cure them of whatever was making them sick.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: So they ended up packing up their family from other states and literally coming to Minor Wales to live just because they believed that the water was gonna help cure them.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: And so just the history alone of knowing and hearing little folklore stories like that, it's kind of cool and intriguing to hear.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: And even if you're not like into just the ghosts and the spook part of it, just Miner Wales is such a a little alluring town and it's growing, you know.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it's fun to see and and witness and hear all the things about it.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really curious to know um what it's actually like to stay at the Baker or what it was like during the glamorous years.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and what are some of the most fascinating stories from the hotel's past?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I tell, golly, I tell so many stories on the Ghost Walk, but this is probably one of my favorite.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, depending on your age, you know, some people know who the Three Stooges are.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_02: I grew up watching the Three Stooges before I would go, you know, like off to school or whatever.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then it was neat for me to find out that the Three Stooges actually lived at the hotel off and on for three different years.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that's pretty cool to think about famous people that, you know, with presidents and beautiful movie stars, and even Bonnie and Clyde stayed at the Baker Hotel as well as the Three Stooges.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: So it's neat to just see and hear some of the things from years ago of what drawed people in to come and stay at the hotel.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: And again, the spooky stories just kind of evolved over the years once it closed in in the 70s.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: If you were one of the lucky men or women to have gotten a room on opening day, it would have cost you a whopping five dollars and sixty-two cents a night to get a room.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: So you shared some of the history.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: What areas of the hotel are reported to be most active?
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  SPEAKER_02: So here's the crazy part.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, whenever I was starting to do the research to host the tour, uh about 15 years ago now, I stayed inside the hotel, of course, you know, was given permission and things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And believe it or not, I did not have the most interactions with spirit or paranormal activity on the inside of the hotel.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, believe me, they were there, and I did have some interactions, and it's spooky and creepy and cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, the most haunted area of the Baker Hotel is actually outside.
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  SPEAKER_04: I wonder why.
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  SPEAKER_04: Is it yeah?
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  SPEAKER_04: My mom used to tell me that there was um somebody who jumped, I think, from one of the top stores.
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  SPEAKER_04: But I don't know if that is true or not.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: I do talk about the mistress on my ghost walk.
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  SPEAKER_02: I sure do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh legend says she jumped, however, there is many of people bel that believe she was pushed.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: The hotel closed in 1972, and this happened long before I was even born.
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  SPEAKER_02: So whenever I interviewed people, of course, they were elderly and way on up in their age.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I just did the best that I could on trying to retell their stories on how they brought it to life in my own imagination of hearing how it was for them living and seeing it back in the day.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_04: Are there any famous historical figures that might haunt the hotel?
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  SPEAKER_02: So many people actually bring that up.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: And here's one that's a really odd, that's that's kind of new, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not so much as in historical figures from years ago.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, the Osbourns come on their tour bus and the famous Ozzy was like, I'm not getting out.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_02: Take one look at this building, forget it, I'm out.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I like in my own heart, have kind of like always looked at that.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if Ozzy Osborne is looking out of a tour bus window and he won't get out, what is that?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: What is wrong with Minnie?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: He's scared to get off and take a tour.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um wow.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: I can't personally say that of all the interactions that we have with the spirits, that there's anybody that is somebody that's like on the national registry of JFK or Marilyn Monroe or anybody like that, but the little spirits that do haunt it, they're definitely they put their name on the map.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: And everyone that's into paranormal, they already know who it is and who to be expecting in certain areas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_04: The last time I was there, I did go up the steps and I don't I think there was still like that green carpet.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if that's still there.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: It looks like they're they're renovating the top floors.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_04: There were lights on, there were people up there.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_04: But is that true?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: Are they actually trying to renovate the baker?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: They are.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: The windows have been redone, it looks beautiful.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they, you know, I see the lights on often and people up there.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have not been up there in probably, gosh, well over a year now to see any new renovation, but there's definitely people there, you know, you can drive by and check out.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let me say this.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: You can see people moving, and some of the people moving, you know, has an actual hammer in their hand.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: The other people you see moving, you're not too sure if if anybody else sees them or what.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_04: There's so many photos of like figures and windows at the baker.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_04: It is unreal.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: If you don't mind, I wanted to ask you.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_04: I did see on your social media page the old sanatorium, and I've been hearing really scary stories about that place for a long time.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_04: I wasn't sure if that was a place that you toured.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, my mom always told me that's where they locked up either the criminally insane or something.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_04: Old wives tale, I don't know.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to check in with you.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: Eight years ago, the VFW and I, we kind of just talked together.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: They were needing, you know, to do like some fundraising, and we just kind of looked at it like, hey, let's see if this works.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll open up the doors, we'll do one night.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think the first night we did maybe four or five hours of an inside investigation.
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  SPEAKER_02: And holy cow, we had to literally limit how many people could even come in.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was not expecting that huge of a turnout.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, uh, you know, at the Baker Hotel, whenever people come on my ghost walk, I literally say, I don't care if you believe in ghosts, I hope you don't, because the history alone, you're gonna love.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that and that's absolutely true.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, the sanitarium, I do not tell anybody, I hope you don't believe in ghosts, because if they're there, not only do they believe in ghosts, but they are prepared to have a fright, chill sent down their spine, their hair pulled to get poked, prodded, and possibly leave the tour early because they're so freaked out.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is one of the most haunted locations for sure.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, tickets are insane.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: They go off, I mean, like quick, quick, quick.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: And again, we're all inside, and your mom is not wrong on the rumor mill or the folklore of that.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, back in the day, if you were somebody like say you had five or six kids and you kept the older kids during the depression because they were the ones that worked or helped make money for the family, and then you had little bitty children, and then you couldn't afford for them, you could actually drop your child off there.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a crazy, I mean, you know, something in today's day and age uh to think about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, there is different little odd and end stories that kind of go and mix and match with other things that was going on there at the sanitarium.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing demonic there or nothing creepy that's, you know, scary as in like gonna go home with you or a bad haunt, in other words.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: They truly love having people come out and, you know, as far as just like interacting and investigating with them.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: One of my personal favorite stories at the old sanitarium, it's a lot of teenage kids that seems to haunt it and they love, love teachers.
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  SPEAKER_02: So a a group of teachers was there and they were standing in a circle and they were doing recordings and they decided to do if you're happy and you know it's clap your hands.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then if you're happy and you know it, stomp your feet, and they stomp their feet.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then on the next time around, they sang it and nobody moved.
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  SPEAKER_02: You start hearing in the recording, like from all over the room, and then it gets closer to the circle.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: We had teachers running.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like that for me, that was neat to witness because of the amount of children's spirits that not only was so happy to interact, I mean, it's yes, it's kind of a sad thought, but they truly loved it, as well as the teachers.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's probably one of my more favorite feel-good stories.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Is if you could say a ghost is a feel-good story.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so the next topic I don't think has any kind of a good story associated with it.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's either they call it the whispering cottage or the haunted hill house.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_04: They're actually that's two separate ones.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: So the Whispering Cottage is actually a home on another area of Mineral Wells.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: I have been in it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I personally I love the home.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: I actually wish they would sell the home to me if I'm gonna be real honest.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then Haunted Hill House, it's actually not even half a block away from the Baker Hotel.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: My tour does not pass it, but it, I mean, it is right there.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: And people that are into some creepy, cool things, they like to go and stay there.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_04: You're right.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's right there by the baker, and it is terrifying, the stories that come out of it.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_04: And I've seen so many ghost shows.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: People sometimes can't make it through the night, physically attacked, and I don't even like saying it, but the rumor is there's the portal to hell in that house.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: So have you toured it or had you we just know what I'm talking about?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: I have toured it, and I will tell you, I didn't enjoy personally just the feeling that I got inside of my chest being there.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, not saying anything.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the homeowners, they're they're great people, you know, and they're doing a great job with what they have, and people love to go there.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: However, I have small children still at home.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Lori and Kristen, I'm the crazy one that started over.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: My kids range from age 30 to age eight.
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  SPEAKER_02: With having an eight-year-old still at home, I personally just try to go and to do haunts that are a little bit more of a feel-good, not so much as um something that's possibly lurking in my backseat on the way home because of having the small kids still at home.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you want to protect them.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: You want to protect them, right?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, I have to share this with you.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna get a giggle out of this.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: The ghost lady, crazy that I am, um, with having the kids spread out.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: My last child was actually born on Halloween a month early because my doctor was like, Oh, I would not go and do your ghost walk tonight.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's yeah, I know it's Halloween, but I'm afraid you're gonna go into labor.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I could not listen.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Who can't show up for a kid walk on Halloween?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, the weirdo crazy lady that I am, I went and did my ghost walk, and then guess what?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: Ripton was born.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: I was labor on Halloween, and I legitimately have a Halloween little spook.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's so funny.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_04: It's so fitting, too.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_04: I actually love that for you.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_04: It fits, you know?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_04: And and on this podcast, I I don't even think weird is a word we even use anymore because we we talks it's my normal.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_04: It's my normal.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_04: So I love that you don't use the word weird because weird I maybe to some people, but not to us.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_04: This is uh trust me, you're in good company.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_04: So I I love that for you.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_04: I love that for you.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: As for paranormal experiences, what's what is the most convincing piece of evidence that you witnessed?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: So golly, I don't know that I have just one, to be perfectly honest with you.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, my tour, I will say this, is truly haunted.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I truly do start out one of my first sentences.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: I say, I hope you do not believe in ghosts.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because as long as you're open-minded and you're taking your own photos or your own video evidence, you're going to capture orbs, ectoplasm, fog, mists.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna get poked or prodded or something hiss in your ear, your hair's gonna get pulled, you may get scratched.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: And over half the people capture apparitions.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: So last night was the full moon.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: A full moon ghost walk is absolutely the bomb.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna say roughly 50 or so apparitions were caught last night by 98 people.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I can't just pinpoint just a one.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, now I will say this: it is neat to see people that have come on the ghostwalk and odd or paranormal things have happened like to them there that they can explain.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like so, in other words, like maybe their mother had passed away and then all of a sudden their mother's Facebook is pulled up on my ghostwalk and their phone is locked on it.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: That has happened on more than one occasion.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: Not so much necessarily just a mother, but like a loved one, and they can't get their phone to unlock from that person's Facebook or that person's social media, or on one occasion, somebody's dead relative's phone number was calling their phone during my ghostwalk, and the woman is trying to I mean, like freaking out screaming.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think I've ever had this many goosebumps listening to somebody.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: And we interview a lot of folks, and I think it's because I've been there and I know what you're talking.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_04: There's something there.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever captured anything on camera or film?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Every time.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Every time.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: Every time.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: What would be the most common things that you get?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_04: You said apparitions, or or what would be the rare ones that you don't get as much?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: So a rare one to me is one where you can see like the full-on facial features.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Last night, a young lady, her first name was Paige.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: She caught what I believe is a woman, what looks like holding a baby, kind of like maybe patting it to soothe it.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: Now that's what I see.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: But guess what?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Two or three other people in the group, they saw a couple like embracing, like like this.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like maybe you were you didn't see the back of the head.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Does that make sense?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: Where I saw a baby, somebody else saw like a couple embracing.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, things like that is pretty cool to witness, but to see how somebody else interprets it.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: There's also the spirit of a little Indian boy.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: He shows up and it is plain as day that it is an Indian child.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Even so much you can see the lushness or luxuriousness of his hair, you know, um, that is really creepy cool to see.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: The spirit of the mistress, little Miss Virginia, she shows up around the baker pretty much every single time.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: There's one area, you know, it's kind of over there on the old cobblestone kind of part of the street.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: You, if you do recordings, you can hear what sounds like spur rows of a cowboy dancing.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you think Mineral Wells has become such a hotspot for paranormal tourism?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: So here's the deal.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think that the paranormal has always been there.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was not maybe talked about as much.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: And even, I mean, listen here, girl, to be um a blonde hunter in the Bible belt, you know, let me tell you, I definitely had some people frown upon it 15 years ago.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and whenever, I mean, I do have permits.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: And so whenever I very first asked for my permits, I think that the city absolutely thought I was crazy, thinking that any person would travel to hear a ghost story.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: And then the very first ghost walk had 252 people at it.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, since then, I think with the help of social media, for one, but for two, we're just kind of in an era where it's like, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't like it, you don't have to comment on it.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to come, you don't have to bring your car and pull up here and pay me your hard-earned money to go on this tour.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: But if you do, you're gonna respect it enough.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: In other words, by I don't care if somebody heckles me, I don't care if somebody thinks it's funny I believe in ghosts.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: But if you're gonna come and watch, come and listen.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Weekly, we have ghost groups coming out from different church parts, you know, to do the history part of it.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I just think our day and age is just becoming more accepting, it is the best way to describe it.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think that the ghosts were there all along.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's just that we just kind of accept them more now.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that makes sense.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Did you believe in ghosts before um you got involved with the ghost tours?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: I sure did.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: So crazy enough, the very first time I didn't realize it was a ghost.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: I really thought it was my own imagination.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: I grew up in a time where, you know, moms and dads worked.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm definitely an 80s kid and I was a country kid, but the very first time I saw what I know now to be a spirit, I don't think I realized that it was a ghost at all.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: I have always believed in ghosts, but it just kind of wasn't really talked about.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: But then whenever I become a mom, and you know, if you're a parent yourself or if you're a young mom, they don't come with instructions.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: And the very first time my toddler, uh, my oldest, his his name is Riley, and um, the very first time he was ever talking to something that I could not see, not only did it kind of creep me out, but in my head, I'm like, well, wait a second.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: If he's not creeped out about it, and I am, I'm not gonna do him any justice by being creeped out and letting him see and feel those, you know, that energy from me.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I instantly wanted to be more accepting of a ghost, but only to be a better parent.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever been frightened during an investigation or a tour and had to stop?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: I sure have, but uh only in one location.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, which I do talk about.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna give the the the where it's at, but I will say in all of my years hunting ghosts, there is only one building I have ever not lasted the night in.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Just one.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: I've stayed by myself, including the Baker Hotel, but one other building I have not lasted the night in.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: And not only did I not last the night, I didn't even last but about two and a half hours before I got frightened enough that I skedaddled on out happily, and it is on my ghost walk.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: We need to come on your ghost walk.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, what is the most memorable experience a guest has reported?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: You probably have a lot.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: I do have a lot.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not lost on me for anybody to show up, whether they come from 10 miles away or whether they come from 10 states away.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: And people come, you know, all the time.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: I like to say, even though I own my own businesses.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a blue collar worker.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: I get up and I work seven days a week.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm proud for every dollar that I make.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: And whenever somebody chooses to spend their dollar of their hard-earned money with me on my ghost tour, it hits home for me.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: So one of my favorite things is to know that somebody came on my ghost walk, spent their money, enjoyed the tour, but then they call me like the next day to say, you're not gonna believe this, but and then fill in the blake with either their husband got a pinched or, you know, whatever, or hair pulled, but he didn't want them to tell me like during the ghost tour for out of embarrassment or maybe shyness or quiet, whatever.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Or one of the more common phone calls is somebody will call on Sunday and say, last night we took your tour and we stayed the night in the hotel and we decided to get up and come and eat breakfast and kind of walk around downtown or have our lunch here.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: And we're just sitting here and we looked up in this window, and you're gonna think we're crazy, but we see a ghost.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that happens all the time on Sundays.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's neat for me to have that interaction that goes on past just that time of being on the ghost walk with me for that one little hour, if that makes sense.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: But the ghost walk, it kind of calls you back in.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Even if you're not from here, you may want to come back and visit.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: Not and not even just my ghost walk, just the downtown Minerwells area.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: It has kind of a feel-good energy.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: You don't really realize what it is, but you feel like getting out and walking around.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you feel kind of at home.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: You don't really realize why, but to know that so many people, time and time and time again, experience that same thing.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I enjoy that part of it, not just the ghostly spooks and and creeps and frights about it.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's neat that you're helping people to kind of connect to something different.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: It is very common for somebody to call and say, Hey girl, I have four kids and one doesn't mind.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: What happens if he's interrupting or he's blah, blah, blah?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: And guess what?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: You can give me the most feral child and they love a ghost story.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's neat to watch a parent be almost in awe of like their child that usually has to have the tablet or has to have a cell phone just to even be able to interact without stomping their foot and throwing a temper tantrum.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Nope, not on my ghost walk because guess what?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: We have blind dates weekly of people that'll show up and buy their one ticket, and then somebody else buys one ticket.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then like I realize, oh, they're on a date.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: How cute.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: I will say this.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, on the 15 years of doing the ghost walk, we've had two blind dates of come back and do proposals.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And one person actually got married at our ghost walk on Halloween, by the way, because that was their first date.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it's good family fun.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing jump scare.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's nothing that's a bad story that somebody can't hear if they're a five-year-old.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that part of it is neat to witness, you know, at least I think so.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: And and two, just getting some exercise and walking around and and the whole family for that hour, even though if they were taking pictures, nobody's scrolling social media, nobody's buying something on Amazon to get, you know, delivered the next day.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: And so you said kids of all ages or anyone can come to the tour.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: And then do you ever do daytime?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't unless it's a private booking.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: So, like the Texas School of the Blind or Deaf, um, a lot of church groups, some field trips of like private schools will book me for just like the history part of it.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, do you use any type of equipment?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like EV, you know, EMP?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: I do have it.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: And if somebody asks, but most of the time everybody just wants to use their own smartphone because there's apps that they can use.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Now, on the sanatorium tours, we absolutely everybody pulls out all of my equipment and uses that.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of results do you get on some of these?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, are they actually working and what is the best equipment for getting results?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: So, girl, I'm old school.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: I will tell you.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have like the$4,000 piece of equipment, but I'm really I'm a fan of just a great smartphone or the old school handheld radio where you put it on the white noise.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's called the Hack Shack in Paranormal World.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: So whenever you put it on the white noise and you just hear the like that, you can ask yes or no questions and then hear the yes like that.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: So that's pretty creepy cool to hear that.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: Is that similar to the spirit boxes?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's called an ovulus.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: But that's part of the app things that you can download and use on there as well.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so as long as you have a smartphone that can download you know, any type of app, that's basically the same, exact same thing.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I've seen some apps too.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: I just didn't know how how well they would work.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: If a spirit is around you, they're gonna use any and every means that they can to try to get your attention if they're wanting to, to begin with.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, where you would, or at least I kind of like the ego inside of me was like, Oh, those apps are a bunch of malarkey.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: But honestly, I mean, time and time again, I'll watch the apps go right along with whatever we're talking about.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: Or so I mean, you definitely can trust in them.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_04: Have any, I guess, skeptics or folks who didn't believe leave the tour and now they do believe in the paranormal app.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: So one of my favorites, this this is probably one of my all-time favorites, uh, a gentleman named Ed, I'm not gonna say his last name, but I think it was probably my second year of of hosting the tour.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: He came with all of his grandkids and at the at the ticket booth, he's paying out his cash and he was like, No, I just want you to know I'm gonna stand back.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna partake in the tour, and I'm just here basically to watch my grandkids.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Oh, I said, Well, here's the deal.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you're here with them, you have to, you know, purchase your ticket.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: I said, but how's this?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: If you hate the tour, I'll give you your money back.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, whenever I said that, it kind of offended him.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not about the money.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't believe in ghosts.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I get it, I understand.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, then he proceeds to start telling me that he just retired CIA.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: That kind of piqued my interest.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: Then I was like, oh, okay, I get it.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: And he says, Everything is scientific with me.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: Ghosts can't be proven, so they're not real.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: But my grandkids wanted to do this.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: So, anyways, we do the whole ghost walk, and probably about eight or so blocks into this, I see this same gentleman looking around at his grandkids and looking behind him, kind of like spook.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: And he looked at me and he kind of pointed his finger in the air and he's like, uh, I got you, like kind of, you know, and I I see him doing this while I keep telling my whole story.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: And then at the end of the tour, I whip out a$20 bill and I hand it to him.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: I said, Well, I saw your face.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: I said, Evidently you didn't you didn't enjoy this.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: He said, No, I got your number, kid, you know, kind of teasing me.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: So he proceeds to tell me, how'd you do that to me?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, How how'd I do what?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, You set me up.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: You wanted somebody to spook me.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, I really don't know what you're talking about, but I didn't set you up.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was a good 50 feet from you on my microphone whenever I saw your face.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: What happened?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, Something hissed in my ear right then.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, he said, not only did it hiss in my ear, he said, but I felt it touch my earlobe.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: How'd you do that?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: And he was just convinced that I had done this to him somehow.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I told him, I said, okay, you told me you believe in the science.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: So you tell me how how did I do that if you saw where I'm standing?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: He proceeds to start going into how quick of a sleight of hand people are that can pickpocket.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm laughing.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this is not some circus show, you know, and like so we had like a good camaraderie laughing back and forth.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Guess what?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: As he mentioned, he had just retired CIA.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: He comes every year and tells me about the new places that he's just investigated and he traveled the world at haunted locations.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: See, you open up the mind, and there's a lot out there that people don't know.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, if you just feel it if it's real.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_04: Anything is possible, you just gotta believe.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_04: I have to know if any of your guests on the tour have ever been too afraid and had to leave the tour.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, that does happen sometimes, unfortunately, mainly because in the first block where we're at the Baker Hotel, sometimes women will feel kind of like an overcoming energy of like um, say like a headache really quick, or they get sick at their stomach.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, also it feels sometimes like sinus pressure as well.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: And that's just what paranormal energy feels like.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Whenever I see it, I can usually gauge when a tourgoer is not feeling great.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'll just say, hey, if you're not feeling great, if you walk away from the area you're standing, sometimes you'll start to feel better if it is kind of overcoming you.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that person will catch my cue where I'm not calling them out, you know, as to where everybody will turn and look at them.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then they'll walk away.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes they feel better, sometimes they don't, unfortunately.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: It just depends on how sensitive a person is.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then again, you got to keep in mind we all have spirits and we all have loved ones that are trying to communicate with us every single day.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: So there where the the veil is thinned, it's just a little bit more susceptible to become sick to that.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: I think Lori has been interested in that.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_04: I'm so glad you mentioned that because I always forget to ask this how does the veil get thin?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_04: How long does it last?
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_04: And what's your experience with it?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: So um, if you see, I'm kind of itching my nose right now.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: So not only I'm gonna freak you out, Lori, you have an older female that is wanting to come through and talk to you right now.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you didn't know, I am a spirit medium.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, she's she's there with you.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: She's doing a little bit of a congratulation.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: So something just went on in your own personal life or you leveled up or you got some type of certificate of completion and you did something like for yourself.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: So either a job change or a job addition or promotion or something added into your everyday life, um, that she is congratulating about this.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: And she's I'm pointing up, not meaning like like heaven, like she's just hanging out.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: She her energy is older than you.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: So spirit guides will place it older.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I know to say that it's an older female.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she's also coming through with an R initial, so um, first or a last as well.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: So um, and she's also saying hello to other females.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: So other female, do you have a sister?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: She's pointing to your side.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: So it is Oh gosh.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry, I'm not I'm not trying to creep you out, but there is um yeah.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, um so the veil thinning, whenever you said that they were like, Well, come on, let's talk.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: So a good medium can thin a veil.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: But then also we are on a full moon right now.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: This is a full moon, so the veil is already thin to begin with.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, as well as like, you know, around Halloween and then every month, just the way our moon cycles, sometimes it is easier to come through and communicate with spirits.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it's not just Halloween then.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, then I thought, oh, this is the time of year it's spookiest, but I guess it could be really five.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_04: Kristen, did you have a last question?
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yes.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think spirits or are intelligent entities, residual energy, or something else?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: All three.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: I personally um I will only do things in the light.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: I I give no credence to anything that is the something else because I think if you go looking for it, you're probably gonna find it.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, A, I'm a busy mom.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: I got kids running everywhere, and I I ain't got time to be at soccer practice and wondering what demonic spirits in the backseat of my expedition, you know.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so I prefer to only deal with the smart, you know, entities that can answer yes or no, or turn off a flashlight, or, you know, make a ball roll across a room, something like that, which is a lot of what you will see at the sanitarium, by the way.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then also like on my ghost tour, it's a lot of loop fonts, and that is just energy that's trapped in an area.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: So you may like the cowboy spurs that I mentioned, you'll hear that off and on, off and on.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so both of those I give credence to.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: The other, uh I'll let some dark people go and deal with that.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't got time.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: Uh you mentioned some kiddos in private schools.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: Come, I'm curious too, if you have any and maybe folks on the spectrum that can see and hear maybe more, or maybe there are just some people that have that gift.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: Great question.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um there is a I say a larger school, mean larger meaning it's an more of an open age group.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm gonna say 13 to 20-ish age, about the range um of kids that are on the spectrum.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: Highly, highly intelligent.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're talking gifted to the max.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um probably one of my favorite ghost walks to give each year.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: So absolutely, kids that are on the spectrum can definitely see.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm gonna tell you why, because guess what?
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: The ones that are trained to sit down and do this, this, and this with that part of their brain, they're not using the other part of their brain.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: And that's all, that's all it is.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: Kids that are on the spectrum are um are, you know, they they just see and hear things differently than us.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't mean anything other than, okay, guess what?
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: They happen to be autistic, but they're using a different part of their brain, and they can teach us so much about it.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, one of my favorite guests of all time, um, he is on the spectrum, but the things that he would see and talk about, his parents used to tell him, you know, like, oh, let's not talk about that, or only talk about that at home, just to be socially acceptable.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: That's partly why we did the podcast, is we don't want anyone to feel alone or different, like, you know, or maybe different's good, right?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_04: Because there's so much out there.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_04: We're just learning doing the podcast, how much there is, but we're doing this partly for our kiddos.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_04: So uh I know we're wrapping up on time.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to ask what's next for you and your ghost tours, and then please share with our listeners how and where we can follow you, keep up with you, anything that you want to plug.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_04: We'd love it.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I own the Baker Hotel Ghost Walk, and I've owned that since 2012.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's number one tour in the state, number three in the US, and number five in the world.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: My goodness.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: True story.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then in 2019, I spawned off from there and started Believe Boutique, and the boo is spelt B-O for because I wanted to keep it ghostly branded.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: I believe in the value of a woman, so much so.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it doesn't matter where we're at in our walk of life, we all have a different story, but that story still matters.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I go live all the time, you know, and so um, if you join the Believe Boutique, that's like a private group um that's that's on Facebook.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I go live all the time, you know, selling, you know, womenly things, but it's the stories of everything and everyday life.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes the people, because the women that are on that, they may be from Wisconsin, Missouri, California.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're all over.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just Texas.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then they can share with each other.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: But true story, the women that are on there, not only have they found jobs for other women, there's been women that has donated cars to other women, uh, clothes.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just it's a feel-good group.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then I also own Positive Press, which is like a daily positivity affirmation.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then I go live weekly and do like mini spirit readings and things like that.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then as well, um, I help find missing kids and missing pets as well.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, or you know, if somebody just happens to need, you know, like a a little mini spirit reading of their boyfriend, do I choose A or B?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, stuff like that.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: I love all of that.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_04: You do so much, Angela.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_04: We would love to have you back anytime.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_04: Thank y'all for having me as as one of your guests.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_04: I've really enjoyed speaking with both of y'all.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll definitely stop in for a tour, if not this season, next season.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_04: Do you do them all year round, or is it only in the fall?
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I my season is actually year round, so I can stay on my rating scale of number one.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like in other words, after the spooky season of when Halloween ends, the next one, right after that, November actually has a Friday the 13th.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: So November, Friday the 13th, I'll be doing a ghostwalk.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then, like, we'll do that Thanksgiving Saturday, because guess what?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: When everybody has been trapped up from Thanksgiving and your college kids are in, and grandma and Aunt Fran, and people are wanting to know when are you gonna get married?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: When are you gonna have kids?
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: By the time Saturday rolls around, nobody cares to stay at home with their family.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: So a ghostwalk breaks up that monotony.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: So the Saturday after like Thanksgiving, I do that one, and then like one somewhere around Christmas and then New Year's, I take January off, and then we pick it back up at my bloody Valentine's.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's a huge date for a ghostwalk, and then like spring break and Easter, and so I just kind of fall hit or miss with holidays and things um before we roll back around the September and then it's ever weekend.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's awesome.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: Well, we'll be following you.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_04: You have some new followers here for sure, and hopefully our listeners are intrigued and following you to all the neat and wonderful things you can do.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for coming out to Beatrice Podcast Angela.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_04: You ladies, have a good day.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: These are the encounters as they happened, told by the people who lived through them.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: Whether they reveal the unknown or simply deepen the mystery, that's for you to decide.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: And if you've had a terrible experience you'd like to share on this podcast, email us at hit creaturespodcast at gmail.com.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: Until next time, stay safe and don't wander too far alone in the dark.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: We have plenty more thrilling stories to share with you.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe one day we'll share your story too.