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Almost Famous Adventures: Are Joan and Chock the Real Deal? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to almost Famous The Ogs, the Podcast of
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  Speaker 2: the Stars.
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  Speaker 3: I just added that part. I don't know where that
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  Speaker 3: came from.
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  Speaker 2: Day two, Day two of the Pebble Beach Extravaganza with
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  Speaker 2: my beautiful and handsome co host Andrew Firestone.
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  Speaker 3: Standing in for Trista standing in for Trista early on
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  Speaker 3: for Dear Life.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing a fantastic job, buddy. Let's recap our final
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  Speaker 2: interview of last night. Just to bring you guys up
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  Speaker 2: to speed. We got a chance to speak with Tim, Keith,
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  Speaker 2: Keith and uh. Keith was sitting where I was sitting
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  Speaker 2: where you are, and Andrew was there, and Keith was here,
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  Speaker 2: and I believe the interview opened with Keith going, I
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  Speaker 2: just got to tell you, guys, I don't even remember
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  Speaker 2: who the hell you are, and I thought you were
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  Speaker 2: a dick.
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  Speaker 1: So Keith, I think he had had a couple of
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  Speaker 1: glasses of Hawaii from dinner, I remember.
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  Speaker 3: So, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think interviewing Keith is not dissimilar to drinking out
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  Speaker 4: of a fire host.
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  Speaker 5: No, he did not have anything to say.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, we didn't hear and listen super reserved took
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  Speaker 2: a while to get him out of his show.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, once once we once we got him out,
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  Speaker 4: we scratched the surface.
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  Speaker 3: A little boy came out. My goodness. Yeah, we learned
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  Speaker 3: a lot though.
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  Speaker 1: You could see why I kept him around for so long.
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  Speaker 1: He's so entertaining, he's such a great guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's a party and party in a pocket that I know.
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  Speaker 1: The party centers on Keith.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, they broke the mold on them. They
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  Speaker 3: sure did, buddy, they shared it.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to show you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Joan and Chock here, of course, the golden
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  Speaker 2: Bachelorette couple that came off the show, which we're very,
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  Speaker 2: very proud of, you guys. And I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: it earlier today and I even brought it up to Joan,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, we didn't do these things
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  Speaker 2: when Andrew and I were the Bachelor. We didn't do
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  Speaker 2: like organized events where we got together with our discarded
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you're saying like I was a
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  Speaker 2: lovable loser for trist this season. Probably in no wife a.
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  Speaker 3: Cell phone back then.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, wagons would have taken forever hot assembly pigeons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, by telegraph.
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  Speaker 2: But but you know, it's it's nice that we get
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  Speaker 2: to get to together like this and get to see
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  Speaker 2: you like I love to seeing Chalk inter you know,
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  Speaker 2: interact with all of his guys from this from your season.
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  Speaker 3: Is it nice for you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it nice to get together and see
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  Speaker 2: the guys Chalk and absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: Yet yesterday we had a couple of ranks just reminisced
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  Speaker 5: about the Bachelor Mansion, the journey that we all had,
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  Speaker 5: just catch it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be.
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  Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun because I know I like
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  Speaker 2: to get together with the guys from Trista's season. She
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there necessarily, so it's it could be a blessing
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  Speaker 2: and a curse for you, I would guess. But it's
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  Speaker 2: about to be really nice for you to get to
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  Speaker 2: see see of those guys too.
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  Speaker 1: So I love seeing it because you know, you give
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  Speaker 1: up a lot of your life to be on that show.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, sending somebody home is really hard, and
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  Speaker 1: like those Rose ceremonies were like torture for me. I
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  Speaker 1: hated it. I hated it because even if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a love connection with them, you have a friendship,
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  Speaker 1: your form friendships no matter what. So to see that
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  Speaker 1: they came out whole and like really good and at
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  Speaker 1: least got friendships out of this. And you know, like
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  Speaker 1: they all said, they all kind of had this therapy.
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  Speaker 1: They had these moments that they were in this weird place,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in their life in their sixties and fifties
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  Speaker 1: and sixties, we didn't have many seven year olds, but
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  Speaker 1: and found themselves single and found this tribe of people
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  Speaker 1: that were experiencing the same thing, and then got to
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  Speaker 1: like work through some of their issues that they had
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  Speaker 1: kind of been holding in because there aren't a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people like us. I mean, like I had almost
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  Speaker 1: no friends that were my age and single, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure these guys didn't either. So they came off this
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  Speaker 1: journey kind of whole and with this great group of friends,
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  Speaker 1: even if they didn't get a love connection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a kind of a like Andrew was saying yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: you said it a few times, there's a positive value
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  Speaker 2: that comes out of doing something like Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I think one thing that I noticed just from talking
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  Speaker 4: to some of the crew last night and watching them
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  Speaker 4: all interact, and I was thinking of the dichotomy of
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  Speaker 4: when I was on the show when I was twenty
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  Speaker 4: six versus doing the show now at a more mature age,
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  Speaker 4: where you have confidence that's not bravado, meaning you're not cocky,
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  Speaker 4: but you have a confidence because you've you've done things,
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  Speaker 4: you've raised kids, you've had a career, and you come
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  Speaker 4: in with a with an experience and a perspective that's
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  Speaker 4: completely different than some of the that the young you know,
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote younger bachelors, because they're just starting their life off.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know what they.
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  Speaker 4: Like right, they don't know where they're going, they don't
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  Speaker 4: have an experience, and I mean they have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of this optimism and kind of a doe look
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  Speaker 4: in their eyes. But I think that the perspective that
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  Speaker 4: this gives is like, no, no, no, I have you know,
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  Speaker 4: I have done this, I've been there, and this is
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  Speaker 4: actually what I want. Yeah, And that's that's a confidence
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  Speaker 4: that's earned as opposed to taken.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that that plays a little bit
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  Speaker 1: into the drama that happens in the younger of acheloues
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think that they have, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of confidence that they're just trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: themselves out and they are. I think that their backstories
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  Speaker 1: aren't big enough to carry a season of making them interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So what makes the season interesting is the drama.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they just don't have enough. They haven't lived enough life.
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  Speaker 3: And when you're younger, too, everything offends you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean when you're funny, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I watched Shock last night, and you handle
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  Speaker 2: it so well. You know, you have this this kind
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  Speaker 2: of quiet confidence about you which I really admire. And
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  Speaker 2: you're in the restaurant there and you know, someone comes
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  Speaker 2: over and you know they you know, I mean and
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  Speaker 2: Andrew and I have talked about this and laughed about
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  Speaker 2: this over the years because people will come up and
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  Speaker 2: they go, I've never watched your show, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to get a picture with you. And you have to
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  Speaker 2: determine in that moment. Okay, am I going to be like,
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  Speaker 2: well then why do you want to picture with me?
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  Speaker 2: Or do I just go all what the HELLP?
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  Speaker 3: And so what the hell?
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  Speaker 5: Got right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I watched you do it. I watch you know,
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  Speaker 3: and it's kind of funny. I got to that point
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  Speaker 3: probably later in the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: I was probably like, if you didn't watch the show,
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  Speaker 2: why you interrupted dinner.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Has a lot of men that go, well, I want
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  Speaker 5: to take a picture with you so I can get
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  Speaker 5: it to my wife.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Share, I'm curious.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, on your path or your journey. I
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  Speaker 4: hate using those words, but what were what were the
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  Speaker 4: anxiety points? What were the things? Was it a career,
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  Speaker 4: was it family? Was it your own you know, worried
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  Speaker 4: about getting your own heart broken? Was there anything that
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  Speaker 4: was kind of stuck out as an anxiety point as
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  Speaker 4: you went through for those you know, those months where
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  Speaker 4: you're like kind of on an island, like you don't
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  Speaker 4: have that support around you for a little while, So
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  Speaker 4: don't you're all you're all alone and like in the
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the and when it gets dark and
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  Speaker 4: you're you're sitting in bed, you're like, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is what and you get it so well because you
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  Speaker 1: did it and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the only people you didn't talk to are these
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  Speaker 2: producers who then you're the whole time you're thinking they
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  Speaker 2: have agenda? Are they working their agenda? Do I have
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  Speaker 2: to rethink everything I say to these people?
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  Speaker 1: I feel the same way. That's such a good question,
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  Speaker 1: because you are so alone, you don't have your friend,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have your family, You have nobody to balance
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  Speaker 1: any ideas off of it, and you also have nobody
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  Speaker 1: to meet the people, so you are completely in charge
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  Speaker 1: of making the judgment, and you don't ever know if
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  Speaker 1: everybody is really showing their true selves. Are they showing
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  Speaker 1: their Bachelor TV shelves or selves or are they showing
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  Speaker 1: you who they really really are? So and you have
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to spend with
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  Speaker 1: people unless they have an individual date, which you'll only
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  Speaker 1: have what I think I had. I think I had seven, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's more actually than a normal season. I
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  Speaker 2: think normally you have four individual dates and then the
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  Speaker 2: rest are group dates.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't remember, but I mean there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time and several vodkas I go, but I don't remember,
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's I think your season had more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really lucky. I asked for more, Like
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  Speaker 1: they said, what do you want? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you need more time with people. Like those
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  Speaker 1: group dates. They're fun, but and you see like little
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  Speaker 1: things about people, but you never get to have like
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  Speaker 1: serious conversations. So I think my anxiety came exactly from
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  Speaker 1: what you guys are talking about those late nights where
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  Speaker 1: you're wondering, am I seeing the true person? Like I
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  Speaker 1: need somebody that I can trust to talk to, and
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  Speaker 1: you have nobody, and you're just you're out on an island.
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  Speaker 1: You're making the decisions all by yourself. And I'll said
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  Speaker 1: some guilt about like moving on and that myke, you
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  Speaker 1: and I have talked about this before. About my kids
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  Speaker 1: kind of thought, Okay, well, this is like Mom's new life.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to be kind of ours and maybe a
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  Speaker 1: little at our service because we have my grandchildren now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that it was a little hard for
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  Speaker 1: them to accept that. You know, I had in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: like thirty two, I had thirty two great years of John.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I have thirty two more years possibly that
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  Speaker 1: I could have another great love in my life and
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  Speaker 1: I was going to find that. And they kind of
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  Speaker 1: had to like adjust to that that thought. So I
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  Speaker 1: had a little guilt I was dealing with while it
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  Speaker 1: was air.
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  Speaker 3: It's something mother's guilt is so interesting, it's so difful,
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  Speaker 3: it's awful.
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  Speaker 4: So what about you, Chuck, Like, what was what was
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  Speaker 4: your you know, because you're you're obviously your professional. You
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  Speaker 4: have your job, you have all you you have your
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  Speaker 4: life there and now you're kind of removing you you're
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  Speaker 4: taking a hiatus from that. And was there anything that
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  Speaker 4: it was keeping you up at night? Was there anything
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  Speaker 4: that was that was worrying you about about this?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you also had the option to leave, but like,
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  Speaker 3: what what was your what was your anxiety?
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  Speaker 5: Very fair question and my best answer on that is,
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  Speaker 5: I really don't have anxiety. Been through a lot of
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  Speaker 5: my life and you just deal with it. It's life.
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  Speaker 5: That's the journey of life. In these chapters what I'm
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  Speaker 5: a guy that sits it. I'll get nervous or anxious.
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  Speaker 5: Where do I put my car keys? It's the little stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: stuff going, you know, I've got to deal with it.
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  Speaker 5: And so with Joan, I just knew right away, and
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  Speaker 5: people asked, they go, when was the moment? There was
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  Speaker 5: a lot of moments. We got along very well in
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  Speaker 5: the Disneyland day, but I watched her handle these other
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  Speaker 5: men and we're both very social and guys friends, and
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  Speaker 5: I go, I need somebody. I want somebody in my
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  Speaker 5: life like that that's eloquent, that's caring for other people.
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  Speaker 5: And so that anxiety you just never existed, because I go,
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  Speaker 5: I do right away within a couple of just times
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  Speaker 5: that we had together. As far as the other guys,
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  Speaker 5: there were some really good guys and I knew there
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  Speaker 5: was two of them that really cared for Joan. And again,
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  Speaker 5: I think when you're older, you're going It was Joan's
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  Speaker 5: decision of who she took to the end, and you
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  Speaker 5: just have to say, that's fate. Whatever happens happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and we've all had loves in her life and it
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't worked out. I would have been hurt, but I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't going to be anxious about it going. She needs
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  Speaker 5: to make the decision, the right decision for her, sure,
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  Speaker 5: because she was the lead, right one of us could
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  Speaker 5: have said, hey we're out. Yeah, and I respect somebody.
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  Speaker 5: I had a conversation no names with somebody yesterday and
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  Speaker 5: they go it just wasn't you know, it wasn't going
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  Speaker 5: to work with the two of it. That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's certain people that like kind of end up
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  Speaker 1: in friend zone pretty early. And can you guys get
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  Speaker 1: like you and the man get it and you can
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  Speaker 1: see it and you can feel it. And I certainly
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  Speaker 1: was in friend zone with some people, but like I
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  Speaker 1: needed the friends too. Sure, So you know, sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: keep friends along on the journey because you need them,
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  Speaker 1: Like you can't just have all, you know, possible love interests.
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  Speaker 2: I was trist as friend zone. Yeah, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 2: but I felt it too.
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  Speaker 3: You knew it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Like I literally started advocating for Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: And She'll tell you this that I literally was like,
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  Speaker 2: got that guy, man, you know, because she I think
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  Speaker 2: I told Andrew the story last night. I thought someone
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  Speaker 2: She comes home from a date that I was not
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  Speaker 2: on and it was like a one on one date
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. And she comes home and I'm there with
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  Speaker 2: you know, the other fifteen guys in the mansion, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a frat party.
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  Speaker 3: It's going off, and she's like.
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  Speaker 2: Pulls me aside because I'm the leader of the party.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, She's like, why would I go
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  Speaker 2: on a date with you? I come back and everyone's
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  Speaker 2: reading the Bible and meditating, but I go on a
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  Speaker 2: date without you, and I come back to this, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not for the record ryants and they're writing poetry for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: People know kind of where they're at right from the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And there might be a reason I was
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  Speaker 2: going to ask you as this too, because you do
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  Speaker 2: navigate this stuff very well and very similarly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: very you guys have a nice energy about you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you ever get tired of feeling like you have
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  Speaker 3: to defend your relationship? Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like you you come off of a TV show and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, this can't be real.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the couples from The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 2: uh franchise prior to the Golden failed as a result
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  Speaker 2: of always feeling like they had to defend that relationship
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  Speaker 2: because it's an additional pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Feel like our body language when we're we're in public,
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  Speaker 5: work together. Yeah, just tells everyone. It's the Internet where
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  Speaker 5: people just want to pick you apart in everything. So
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  Speaker 5: the solution of that, like Joe Rogan says, don't read it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: just stay away and you don't have any of those
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  Speaker 5: problems because we could. I mean, it could be absolutely
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  Speaker 5: perfect and somebody out there in this world's going to
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  Speaker 5: go it's not. Yeah, but we have a great time together.
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  Speaker 5: We were It's like we've said this numerous times. It's
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  Speaker 5: like we've been married five or ten years. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 5: was a reason we ended up together, and we just
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  Speaker 5: compliment each other or we just go okay, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, he's super easy. Yeah, I mean I have
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  Speaker 1: to I'm probably not the easy part of this relationship.
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  Speaker 1: So he goes with the flow, which is thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much, because I have a lot of other stuff,
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  Speaker 1: as he knows, with the family and stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like the matriarch, so I have a lot of.
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  Speaker 5: Close to our hotel room here. You know, we need
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  Speaker 5: one three times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But I do feel like I do
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  Speaker 1: feel a little responsible for making people think or know
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  Speaker 1: that this is real and first and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why I feel this responsibility, but like I want them,
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  Speaker 1: I want people to know that this can really work.
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  Speaker 1: And then it does work with a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: and especially.
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  Speaker 2: When it's working for you, because it's people are going
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  Speaker 2: to always have that sort of judgmental skepticism. Yeah, that immediately,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I think, you know, I I remember
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  Speaker 2: feeling that kind of pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And we obviously we didn't make it to the end clearly,
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  Speaker 2: but I remember feeling that kind of pressure and thinking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, God, how do these other people deal with it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it was kind of interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I wondered if you guys, if you guys felt.
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  Speaker 1: That definitely, and especially like on the heels of Gary
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  Speaker 1: and Traesa not working out, like I feel I actually
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  Speaker 1: going into the season, I felt like maybe I was
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  Speaker 1: responsible for like this, like this golden continuing. If I
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: didn't make it and then they didn't make it, They're
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, it doesn't work for the stage group.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: So I did feel a little bit of pressure, but
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna let that detect my decision because this
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: is still my life.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: So I wasn't a letter.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: So I happily found my person. So I feel responsible.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I want that to be out there. And we've even
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: done we did an Instagram post one time when I
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: was just sick of it and we were we were
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: in California and we were in LA for something, I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: don't remember what it was for, and we came home
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: from being out dinner and I was like, let's just
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: like talk and so we laid in bed and I'm like,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why people don't think we're not real
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Like here we are. We're in California, we were together
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: all the time, we were together like every other week.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, we make efforts to each other and they
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: still don't believe it. And we post, and then the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: other thing happens is you post and people like, oh,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you're just in it for the fame. I'm like, well,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't win here, Yeah, you can't.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, you can't win because if you show them the proof, Well,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: why do you feel like you have to show us?
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly the same.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I can't win here. So what does life look like
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: for you guys? Now?
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: What I mean not looking down the road, but like
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: right now, what is what what's life for for you guys?
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: A lot of travel, a lot of you you're off
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: to a little vacation and we'll give it away. But
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: you guys, so this is the fun part.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Is the fun part, you know, this is the part
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: that so when you're our age, you've spent your whole
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: life like planning for this time in your life. You know,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you've raised your family, you've built your careers, you've you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: maybe got made a little money, so you have some
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: resources where you can finally kind of just have fun.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: And we are finally at that point in our life.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, like I didn't have
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: anybody to have that fun with and and you didn't either.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: So we found each other and now we can start
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that part of our life. And so we really are.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: We've traveled a lot. We go to New York City
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: all the time. He's come to Maryland a bunch of times.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I've been to Kansas, planned to go back, of course,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: and then we're going to we're finally going on a
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: vacation just the two of us. We haven't been able
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: to do this.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the batchel of captures like kind
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: of these different chapters, like kind of four chapters. I
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: think in life, there's like, you know, adolescence, then there's
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: that kind of young period, and then child raising and
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: family and career building, and then this chapter and Bacheler
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: catches chapter two in chapter four and that the chapter three,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: which is where where I am and what is It's like,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's you know, it's a lot of work,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of responsibility, and it's not you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: it's not as exciting as where you guys are. It's
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: not as exciting where chapter two was, which is a
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: kind of like optimistic, the world's you know, my oyster
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: whatever else. But I think it's really cool that you
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: guys have had those three chapters individually, that perspective, that
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: confidence that you know, that that life experience, and now
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: you're like, both, yes, this is what we want to do.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I want to do it. Do you want to do it?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I want to do it when together? And if you
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: don't total that's okay, that's fine, and you don't, and so.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's like this this kind of bond
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: that you guys have, that that the younger bachelors don't
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: have yet.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do want to do this on your podcast.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: I want to announce we are going to adopt a baby.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: You heard it here first anybody.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: My father, my father and my mother both adopted people.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: So I've been through that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, jo I'll die.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I love.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Like guys this one f y were getting married tomorrow night.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: He's doing this.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: We also so part of the podcast, we're actually we
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: have a baby Labrador Retriever, a little puppy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: We're gonna give you would your voyage.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I already have a dog. I don't need another dog.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: But he is like an adopted dog.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: So we're going to speak to that point too that
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: you know, be remiss if we don't mention that. Obviously
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the The Golden Bachelor they divorced, they kind of and
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: we've talked about this. They had rushed into the marriage
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: scenario and and you guys seem to have your own timeline.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: About it, which which is no timeline.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: It's just like, you know what, we're just riding with it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: And I I had actually even said at that time
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and I and I did not know either those those
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: people there, Gary or.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah I think I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And I was like, so I didn't want to judge,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Like everyone's like, what do you think? And I'm like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know them, So I don't know, I said,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: but I I don't know why there would be a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: rush at this stage in the game two to do
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: that when you have family where you're where you're at,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: and you have family where you're at in Kansa, It's like,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: why would you try and up end everything?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, let's just roll with it to be a
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: part of each other's lives. Yeah, I mean I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: it's pretty I think that speaks volumes as well, because
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I think that the pressure for the younger bachelor people
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: are Okay, now you're now you're engaged, Now you gotta
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: ge married, married, let's go.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't have the whole thing getting married, but but Jen,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: who I was with my season, lived in Chicago and
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I was in San Francisco, and so I felt where
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: we both felt this compulsion were like she needed to
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: be with me or I need to be with her,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and we decided to San Francisco. But I didn't realize,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: or we didn't realize, we're upending her entire life. So
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: not only were we making this transition to now we're
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: going to be together, but her job, her house, like
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: all this stuff, her friends, and I didn't have the
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: perspective on it, probably to be cautious enough about it,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: or be or be mindful enough about it, like look
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: at all of this stuff for giving up.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: All I thought was we're together, this is fun, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: we're gonna go.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Do this and this, And you know what, I did
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: not give the consideration that she had just basically just
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: kind of pulled the ripcord on everything that she had
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: done up until that point, which was hers on her
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: own and now it's just like now we're together. And
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: that was you know, I mean the press and the
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I'll put that aside. It was just two people that
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden were like instantly without you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: kind of leaning into it, without speeding up into it,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: which is like you know, we're at we're at max
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: capacity right away.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And a huge responsibility for you because all of
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a sudden you have like this dependent yeah, like like
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: she's not your equal anymore. Like she didn't have her
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: life and you had your life. Now you have your
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: life and she has nothing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I didn't and I didn't put that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't give that enough care, I think, and in
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: hindsight now you know, with you know, looking back, of course,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I see that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: But I just don't think that I was careful enough
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: with that. And I regret.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's amazing that the canyon and we've gone through that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the region our marriage recently, you know. But I upended
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: us and moved us to Michigan. Yeah, she gave up everything,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and it was like and I wasn't as thoughtful as
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I should have been about it either, because I was
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: thinking about, oh, my dad's health and you know, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: had these other things that were motivating us and motivating me,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I guess, and uh, yeah, you don't realize that's that's
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: really thoughtful of you to think like that because.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And even you know, with my my wife, we've been
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: married now seventeen years in July, and but she to
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: raise kids, you know, like she gave up all of
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: her life there as well. And I'm thinking, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: this is what you need to do, and this is
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you know, she wants to do it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I want to do it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: But now you like think of all of the sacrifices
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that she made in order to give us this happy life,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: which is amazing. But there's a part of it that
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: she had to sacrifice way more than I did. Sure, Yeah, Kevin,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the moment, in the moment, I'm like, no, this is
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: what we both want, right, this is what we want. Okay,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Never thought about
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: what the sacrifice was.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Well, even if you like don't move or you don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, make any big changes like as
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: far as location, you know, when you have kids, there
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: are sacrifices at that point. And so like I gave
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: up my career, I was a I was a computer programmer.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I wrote code, and I gave it my career to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like raise my kids. But when the kids are raised,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that's when it really hits you, because then all of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, wow, my kids are out of
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the house.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Am I going to do?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Just getting a really weird place to be as a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: woman when you give up everything and all of a sudden,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: like do I go like buy tennis outfits and start
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: playing tennis? Like there's this weird like what do I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: do now with myself? I actually went back and I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: got my interior design degree, but it was like kind
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of out of the blue, all of a sudden, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: felt very useless. Yeah, so you do degree.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I have new pillows. Yeah, bedrooms been.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Coffee table will create h you know, coffee table tapestries.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Ye, posters off the wall. That's a shame. I used
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to love that Cali brock post.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I think that whatever you know, I mean, you know
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: for seventeen years, what you can be is additive to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: the other person's life, you know, and and and recognizing
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: like them independently, not just as a couple. And this
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: is a you know, something that I'm going through right now.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: It's like recognizing not only the importance of a couple,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: but recognizing the importance of that individual, And how can.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I be additive to their life? How can I how
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: can I be supportive?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: And it's challenging because you know, so much of life
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: is me, me, me, Like, like what do I do?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Even if I'm thinking that I'm being generous, it's a
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: lot of it's in my own head.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Sure what am I?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking about at least. I mean, you guys are
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like such mature husbands and father is way more mature
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: than anybody I knew, Like when I was raising my kids.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I think that the I don't even know what, like
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the like this family intelligence you have and like awareness
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of your family situation is like really impressive. I just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: have to say that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Wow, it's a curve though, I mean, like it's such
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a learning curve. And you know, turning fifty this year.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Like I look back when I was twenty six doing
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the show or twenty seven, whoever it was, and I'm like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I was such a baby.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Oh I was.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I was. I was such a kid. I didn't know you, No,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't know it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But it takes a lot of living to get this mature.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, but also it also takes a lot of talking
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: about it, right, I mean a little like through the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: show and we were talking with the Gentleman last night,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: to Guy and Gary, it's like they learned a little bit.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: They learned a little bit about themselves, and like this
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: next chapter that they're in right now, maybe they have
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: sharpened like what it is that they want and by
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: by going having to sit on a couch like this
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: and talk to us and say it over and over again,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: it's important to you. What are your priorities and how
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: do you want to spend your life? Yeah, I think
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: it's I think it's good to talk it through.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It makes you think about the things that are important
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: instead of just like y're in your head and then
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you forget about them when you know something comes up.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: The child raising years of the toughest you guys will
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: ever go through. Yeah yeah, and then you know health
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: comes at that period or later with yourself, with your parents,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: with your loved ones. But it's just, I mean, you're
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: so active. I think you said three kids, yeah, yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: and you've got two too. I mean you're just active.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: And men have this is my opinion. Men have evaulved
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: back in my dad's generation, there's a lot more divorce
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: and men are so much more active and raising kids
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: now than what they did. I trust me. I'm with
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: your psychotherapy on this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: And it's just you are because I bet you guys
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: go to the soccer games, you go, you know, you
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: might even go to practice, but you're involved so much more.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what's keeping people together.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's tough.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, can we do it again?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Raise babies I love?
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, great, but it's just so much work.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, could possibly be like I could probably honestly
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: say that those were the best times of my life.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I felt such love and we had such
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: close friend groups. Because you're with your kids, friends, parents,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like all the time. You like, you formed these really
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: really close connections, so you feel very supportive and you're
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: all doing it together, which is really fun. But I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, I had zero time for myself.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think I got a facial or a massage
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: or like, I only think I got my nails done
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for like ten years.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: All the time.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: She literally just said this morning she went to the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: gym at six am, and I'm like, what are you doing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: You have a chance to sleep.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: In now, granted, like you we got because and she's like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I don't have a chance to do this at home.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: No, you know, I'm going to I'm going to go
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: to the.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Gym and when you guys go to golf, I'm gonna
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: lay in my bed until Hannah tells me not to.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: So two nights ago, or sorry, a few nights ago,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: is driving my son back from soccer practice, like nine
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: thirty at night, and I'm enting, I'm like, it's dark
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: and late and I'm tired of work in the morning,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And then he just said to me,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: just nonchalantly, just said, well, dad, you know in two
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: months I get my license.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And I literally like teared up and I couldn't breathe
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: for a second.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, it is encompassing. It does take all
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: your time. I you know, you know all those things,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: but man, what it's gone. I'm gonna miss it because
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: it doesn't come back.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Because those car conversations are so valuable. You get the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: best conversations because you're not eyed eye with them. You're
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: looking at the road and you can and they say
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: things to you that they would never say if you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: were sitting across from them.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Right, offer some advice, yes, drivers, and then pay for extrat.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Make it, make it long, because.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Sons don't want to listen to you. They don't let
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: somebody else teach them how to drive.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, but that's a captive audience in the car is
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you know, driving to tournaments and doing whatever else like,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: and it's just you know, they're they're there and I
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: don't let them use their phone when in the car.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: And it's so incredibly valuable. And when he said that,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, this is a chapter that's closing. Yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that child raising for you know, for him in that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: period is that chapter is closing and it's not opening
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: back up against.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Chapters. And I went through that, especially with my son.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: What was really neat is when he turned twenty one,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: he and I went to a stake place and he
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: ordered to drink. Yeah, and it was just he's a man,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: you know. And then he was in college and then
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: he just recently graduated and moved to North Carolina and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you miss him. But it's you know, they've got to
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: go live their life. They spread their wings and find
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: out who and what they want.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't dread like like that. I hated, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: my kids learning how to drive and growing up and
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: going to college. But when they come back, like like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: great humans and adults, they are really fun too to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: have around. So like, like, my kids are my favorite
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people to be around. So like, there'll be some like
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: sad moments for you when you take them off to college,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: but they come back and it's really really fun.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Then Yeah, well you're actually very optimistic that my kids
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: are going to get into cold.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: With the brains on both of those parents, I'm not
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: worried about you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys, thank you so much for joining us
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: at the Pebble Beach, the almost famous Pebble Beach outing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Like we said, it's the seventeenth to Andrew, it's the
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: third for me. But we've had such a good time
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: with you guys, and I love you all be in here.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I've love getting to know you. I'm a big fan
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of the two of you guys, and I just feel
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: like you're what you've done I think for this franchise
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: is next level because I think the authenticity of what
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you guys do together is it speaks volumes way more
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: than you know, somebody else's track record of just rushing
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to something and and you know, not getting there in.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: The proper way.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I have no advice to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: give other than you know, enjoy the ride because it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: always a fun one. And clearly if Andrew and I
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: are any indication, it'll go on for the next twenty
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: some years for you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So you made it. Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: But if I can ask one favor of your listeners, yes,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: would you guys send me socks? I don't have socks.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: You guys take it away. You got you got Amy Sugarman,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Amy Sugar Talks.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you guys seen Jones post about my sock.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: No I didn't see it. Oh my god.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So I go to his house for the first time
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: in Kansas, and he's like, I have like the this
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: sock issue. He goes, I hate like parrying my socks
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: after I wash them, so I just throw them into
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a big container. He's actually like two containers, and I go, well,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: bring them up, I'll do them. I spent two days,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like probably four or five hours each day pairing his socks,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and there were three hundred and forty six pairs.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm a sock man too. I've
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: got a ton.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you pair them after you?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Watch you for the most part. But we also have
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: a bin where you know the driving socks.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I know where do they go.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: It's a pretty good sized bin. I'm not gonna lie.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I need you to come to our house. Well, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: It seems it's kind of therapeutic.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm shure. We thanks you guys. Thank you so much.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: You guys, thank you for when to talk to us.
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  Speaker 3: That's too like, that's all right again you as well.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Almost famous d o g. We're going golfing.
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  Speaker 1: Hm.