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Jerome Hudson Speaks About Charlie Kirk · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Five minutes past the hour. It is the third hour
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  Speaker 1: of the Morning Show with Preston Scott Tuesday on the
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  Speaker 1: radio program. He's Osea. I'm Preston. Great to be with you,
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  Speaker 1: and this is our friend. He is the author of
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  Speaker 1: the Fifty Things books. He is the entertainment editor at
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  Speaker 1: Breitbart dot Com. He is Jerome Hudson Hydrome.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, my brother.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Terrific? Pretty good?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to play You're sounding a little a
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  Speaker 1: little echoey. I need the dulcet tones a little closer
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  Speaker 1: to your microphone.
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  Speaker 2: Is that better?
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  Speaker 1: That's a little better. Okay, tell me. Did you know
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: I did get the opportunity to hang out with Charlie
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  Speaker 2: a few times back totay Age at some Turning Point
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  Speaker 2: USA events and then a couple I think there was
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  Speaker 2: a sea pack and some other stuff. But anyway, there
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  Speaker 2: was a presence about him, you know. I think the
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  Speaker 2: first time I met him was twenty nineteen and just
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  Speaker 2: he just hit me with the big, bright smile. I
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  Speaker 2: think I was like introduced as like a bright bart
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  Speaker 2: editor to him, but it didn't seem to matter, Like
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  Speaker 2: he just hit me with that big, bright smile and
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  Speaker 2: just like embraced. You know, he did the handshake and
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  Speaker 2: pulled me in thing, and you know just I mean
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  Speaker 2: the conversation was led by him just asking me what
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, covering Hollywood, the entertainment industry at
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  Speaker 2: Bright Bart. Yeah, just incredibly warm every time I bumped
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  Speaker 2: into him. But beyond that, you know, just the people.
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  Speaker 2: My colleagues just had a relationship where they text him
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  Speaker 2: every day. And you know, all the good things you
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  Speaker 2: heard about him just echoed throughout the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just all true. It's all true.
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  Speaker 1: So as a black male, you were not shunned or
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  Speaker 1: laughed at, or belittled or called names or told how
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  Speaker 1: stupid you were. You mean, none of that's true.
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  Speaker 2: No. Actually, I have a I have a colleague who's very,
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  Speaker 2: very Italian who is still distraught. She was one of
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  Speaker 2: the Charlie's first hires after he basically stood up turning
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  Speaker 2: point out of a garage. And uh, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: those are the times we live in, right, I guess
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  Speaker 2: good people are taken and immediately. Uh. John Stewart's called
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  Speaker 2: it the political gender reveal of our times. Right, It's
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  Speaker 2: just you know, whatever, whatever team you believe you're on,
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  Speaker 2: you you you, whether you're on TV or social media,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You just you just you just have to
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  Speaker 2: read from the script and say the worst things about
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  Speaker 2: good people, regardless if it's true or not. It's it's unfortunate,
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  Speaker 2: it's sad, it's not necessarily new. But in this case,
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  Speaker 2: it it felt different. You know. Like I said, I
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  Speaker 2: only spent a collective few hours with Charlie over a
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  Speaker 2: six or seven year period, and I was distraught for days.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't cried in years, and I mean I didn't
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  Speaker 2: break down, but I was fighting back tears listening to
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  Speaker 2: my boss, uh, Breitbart's editor in chief Alex Marlow, filling
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  Speaker 2: in for Hugh Hewitt as the news was coming in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is just it was just your heart
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  Speaker 2: breaks repeatedly. Right. But the other side of that coin
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  Speaker 2: is just the revival, that the spiritual awakening that I
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  Speaker 2: think was already happening in this country full of tilt.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get to the revival side and the
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  Speaker 1: side that was most important to Charlie, I asked a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people this question, what is worse the assassination
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  Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk or the reaction by people on the
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  Speaker 1: extreme left to it.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely the latter, because I don't I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen a reaction to a cold blooded murder
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  Speaker 2: such a good man living out the First Amendment on
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  Speaker 2: a college campus where you know, conservatives often need security,
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  Speaker 2: and that's after they jumped through the hurdles of the
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  Speaker 2: administration and the rabbit activists on student activists on campus.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a lot to stand up the organization that
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  Speaker 2: Charlie did, and to do what he was doing on
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  Speaker 2: major in small universities, in these communities, and to be
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  Speaker 2: and to be killed in that manner doing that, and
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  Speaker 2: then to have in the in the moments as we
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  Speaker 2: don't even know if he's alive or dead, people like
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  Speaker 2: you know, Matthew Dowd on MSNBC just making flipped remarks,
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  Speaker 2: but even worse than that, people just dancing on his graves,
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  Speaker 2: celebrating his assassination. There was a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 2: When Andrew Breitbart passed in February twenty twelve. We were
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  Speaker 2: in the social media age, but we had not sort
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  Speaker 2: of accelerated to the to the point where I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just we're talking about school administrators physicians, doctors, teachers, healthcare professionals,
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  Speaker 2: members of the Department of Defense just either outright celebrating
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  Speaker 2: Charlie's death, are saying well, good riddance. You know. The
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  Speaker 2: actor Dwight Route from the office telling on his podcast
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  Speaker 2: telling Mark Ruffalo a story, Rain Wilson says, I went
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  Speaker 2: to a party in Hollywood, and let's just say, some
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  Speaker 2: of my celebrity friends their reaction to Charlie's death was
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  Speaker 2: I'm not shedding any tears. Again, I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: we got to this place exactly, because again, like it
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  Speaker 2: just wasn't like this. Andrew Bidepart was the first to
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  Speaker 2: retweet the left's hate on social media, right to hold
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  Speaker 2: up that mirror and show just how much contempt they
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  Speaker 2: had for ordinary Americans. But this was, this was a
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  Speaker 2: lot worse. But at the same time, you know, sun sun,
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  Speaker 2: sunlight is the best disinfectant, and you certainly don't want
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  Speaker 2: people working in our federal government security agencies who harbor
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  Speaker 2: those feelings. You don't you don't want people who have
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  Speaker 2: the responsibility of giving unbiased treatment healthcare, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: teaching children to have that much hate in their heart.
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  Speaker 2: And I think all of these people signed contracts to
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  Speaker 2: work at these jobs, and I think it's the it's
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  Speaker 2: the duty of an employer to separate that person from
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  Speaker 2: that from their profession and their company.
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  Speaker 1: We could talk a long time about the reaction to
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  Speaker 1: all of this, the Jimmy Kimmel Live thing, the lack
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  Speaker 1: of apology is outright dishonesty, and his statement, which we
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  Speaker 1: highlighted here. I'd rather take a minute here and get
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on what's the state means this revival beyond
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  Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, because Holy Spirit obviously has to have
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  Speaker 1: willing participants. Will will this move be sustained for any
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  Speaker 1: length of time? Do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I think I think if anything has
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  Speaker 2: happened in the last decade, and you can, you can
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  Speaker 2: you can lay it on you know, Trump or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: you think the impetus was for just sort of a
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  Speaker 2: political awakening that sort of, in my opinion, undergirds a
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  Speaker 2: spiritual awakening that I think was already happening. I just
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  Speaker 2: think that the hunger and the yearning is just there
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  Speaker 2: on a level that can be nothing but celebrated. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I often talk about how it's no accident that so
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  Speaker 2: many of our major and mid size cities in this
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  Speaker 2: country are just overwrought with crime and have these paprological issues,
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  Speaker 2: failing schools, And it's no accident that the common denominator
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  Speaker 2: is those cities are oftentimes run by Democrats, the mayor,
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  Speaker 2: the city council, the county council. But I bet if
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  Speaker 2: you look at those cities also, there is a broken
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  Speaker 2: relationship between the church and the community leaders, and the
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  Speaker 2: church and the political leaders in those cities. And that
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  Speaker 2: is so we're seeing that that relationship be built on
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  Speaker 2: a grassroots level of all places, cities like Chicago, those
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  Speaker 2: people showing up present to those city council meetings, you know,
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  Speaker 2: saying this isn't right. I mean, these people shouldn't even
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  Speaker 2: be in this country, let alone having our tax dollars
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  Speaker 2: be used to subsidize their lifestyles. While we have homeless
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  Speaker 2: people who've just been failed one time after another in
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  Speaker 2: this city, or or even worse, veterans who come back
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  Speaker 2: from theodos of war and fall out of the mainstream,
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  Speaker 2: their their faith leaders leading the charge and and and
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  Speaker 2: and asking for more accountability from their political leadership. And
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  Speaker 2: so it was there, and I think you know, Charlie
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to die, but I think he was prepared
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  Speaker 2: to die. He wanted to save the country, but he
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  Speaker 2: certainly wanted to save souls even more. And I think
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  Speaker 2: in his death, both of those those things will be
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  Speaker 2: done at an even more extraordinary level.
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  Speaker 1: He is the entertainment editor at Breitbart dot Com, has
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  Speaker 1: been for a long time, but he's been a friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine longer. Jero Mudson with me, and uh, let's
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  Speaker 1: change gears for a second. I learned over the weekend
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  Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl was going to hand over its
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  Speaker 1: halftime show to a guy that doesn't rap in English. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a Puerto Rican name Bundy born, Yeah, Benito Jerome. Explain
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  Speaker 1: this to me? Explain what is this because it's in California.
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  Speaker 1: Is this because the NFL just wants to certify its
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  Speaker 1: woke credentials? What the heck?
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  Speaker 2: The first thing is the NFL five years ago was
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  Speaker 2: a nine billion dollar brand. I think it's a fifteen
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  Speaker 2: billion dollar brand today. The NFL, the Shield as it
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  Speaker 2: is referred to, is all about growth. That means having
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  Speaker 2: your first game this year played in Brazil, but you
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  Speaker 2: put the game on YouTube so hundreds of millions of
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  Speaker 2: people can watch it. There are games in Spain now
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  Speaker 2: that they're pursuing. They just played games in Germany and
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  Speaker 2: London last weekend. They've been in London, uh for over
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  Speaker 2: a decade, and so the brand of the NFL is,
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  Speaker 2: bottom line, we are going to grow our audience and
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  Speaker 2: we are going to do it by engaging the Latin America.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to push back against football in Europe and
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  Speaker 2: so bad Bunny the most streamed artists on the planet's Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he is besides having a like hold your hand, Grandpa
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  Speaker 2: and explain this to you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, no, seriously, what besides having a crappy name?
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  Speaker 1: What what is the is it? Because he's rapping in
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  Speaker 1: Spanish and so many people speak the language, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what is it? What's what's special about him?
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  Speaker 2: His music? No, his music sort of has the hints
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  Speaker 2: and notes of reggaeton and salsa, you know, and so
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  Speaker 2: you know he's he's making music that young, old like
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  Speaker 2: a billion people are into and really, yeah, I know
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  Speaker 2: his shows. I mean he does the pyrotechnics, he kisses
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  Speaker 2: men on stage, he wears dresses on Instagram. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's hitting every little button.
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  Speaker 1: So he's playing the androgynist thing. He's he's playing the
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  Speaker 1: everything to all people kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm told by Francis Martel, bret Part's international editor
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  Speaker 2: that you can't be a Latin pop star and come
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  Speaker 2: all the way out of the closet. So what bat
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  Speaker 2: Bunny's basically doing is queer baiting for clicks and likes
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  Speaker 2: and social acceptance. But Ricky Martin came out, yes, but
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  Speaker 2: he was already fifty five years old and had a
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  Speaker 2: blossoming career. So that's that part of it. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're the NFL you want global domination. You've had Kendrick
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  Speaker 2: lam are the biggest rapper, most streamed rapper. Before that,
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  Speaker 2: you had Rihanna, who's done stadium shows. You know, hadn't
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  Speaker 2: really been popular, hadn't really been putting out a lot
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  Speaker 2: of music in the last few years. But Rihanna, but
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  Speaker 2: she's she's the goat in many many people's eyes. Before that,
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  Speaker 2: you had The Weekend Again, The Weekend did stadium shows.
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  Speaker 2: He's Canadian, he's massively international, and so that and so well,
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  Speaker 2: as long as jay Z is on the board that
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  Speaker 2: that that basically decides who is performing at these halftime shows,
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  Speaker 2: You're going to continue to get this. Now, I will say,
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  Speaker 2: Metallica from San Francisco, not as far as I can tell,
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  Speaker 2: going to be participating in this halftime show. And this
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  Speaker 2: is the second time I think in a decade that
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  Speaker 2: the halftime Super Bowl halftime show has been in San Francis.
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  Speaker 2: Go And I mean, but that's the point though, Like
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  Speaker 2: the NFL looks at Metallican says, are what kind of
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  Speaker 2: audience are they going to drive in? What kind of
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  Speaker 2: new eyeballs are they going to bring to the game.
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  Speaker 2: It's the biggest it's the biggest advertising event of the
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  Speaker 2: year by far, and he's the He's Bad Bunny. You
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  Speaker 2: may not like the name, but people like the music.
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  Speaker 1: Will the super Bowl have the audience Charlie Kirks memorial had.
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  Speaker 2: Wow? I don't think so. I really don't, But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to let that detract from the fact that,
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  Speaker 2: you know a lot of people were mourning and to
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  Speaker 2: see the Yankees on September tenth, the day he was taken,
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  Speaker 2: honoring him in the way that they did, and then
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  Speaker 2: most of the NFL teams and other MLB teams, international
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  Speaker 2: teams honoring him. Credible. Charlie was in South Korea and Japan.
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  Speaker 2: South Korea two days Japan one day before his his murder.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean the guy was loved in all
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  Speaker 2: four corners of the planet. But yeah, I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen. But stranger things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll say good to talk to you, friend, be well,
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  Speaker 1: love you, thank you by love you too. Jerome Hudson
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  Speaker 1: with Me Our Friend. Morning Show with Preston Scott