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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Pete, I have a question for you.
- 0:02SPEAKER_00: If you could permanently remove one ride from Walt Disney World for tomorrow, what would it be?
- 0:09SPEAKER_03: We're talking one ride from any park.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Any park.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Gone.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Bulldoze.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: Goodbye.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: Bye, Felicia.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: Thanks for the memories.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: Alright, I already know my answer.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: Don't don't tell me.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: Because today we're picking the worst rides at Walt Disney World, and neither of us knows what the other one picked.
- 0:29SPEAKER_03: This is gonna piss some people off.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, that's that's how we know it's gonna be a good episode.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: Alright, so this is how it's gonna work.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: Pete and I secretly picked one ride from Walt Disney World at each park, and we think this one deserves to be called the worst.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: Of course, the worst beyond the magic is the namesake of our show, so that's what we're going with.
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: For each park, we're gonna reveal each selection.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: We're gonna talk about it, and we're gonna go right down the line.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Now remember, the worst necessarily doesn't mean it's a terrible attraction.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: It just means is it actually fun?
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: Uh is it is the time, is the wait in line time uh worth the payoff in the end?
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: Is there re-rideability?
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: Is there worth a valuable park time?
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Would we recommend it?
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: Would we care if we missed it?
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: Does nostalgia make people think it's better than it really is?
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: I think that's a big one.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: Would we actually be upset if people if Disney actually removed it?
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Basically, if someone asked me whether or not they could skip this ride, and I could confidently say yes, your vacation will be fine just without it.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: It's eligible.
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: We don't know if we're gonna trust you though, because we saw that you rated Tapolino's a one star.
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: It was one star.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: That was your fault.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: It was one star because you let me you let me make it one star.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: Five stars, one star.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: All right, round one, Pete.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
- 1:58SPEAKER_03: Okay, so um you're gonna you're gonna tell me we we we give you the pick and then we react, right?
- 2:06SPEAKER_03: And so do we defend your choices?
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely defend your choices.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: That's what this whole rant episode is about.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: At Magic Kingdom, do you think is the worst?
- 2:16SPEAKER_03: Okay, Magic Kingdom.
- 2:17SPEAKER_03: Which ride at Magic Kingdom is the worst?
- 2:20SPEAKER_03: All right, I've got this one.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go with um I got two.
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: I got two on my list.
- 2:27SPEAKER_03: And one of them I don't think is really a ride.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: And I think the audience already knows if we the at least the goldfish do, that I do not like the Swiss family Robinson.
- 2:35SPEAKER_03: That's not my pick.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: That is not my pick.
- 2:37SPEAKER_03: Swiss Family Robinson is not your pick.
- 2:39SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 2:39SPEAKER_03: No, my pick is Barnstormer.
- 2:42SPEAKER_03: Barnstormer.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: Oh man, all the parents of little kids are now mad at Pete.
- 2:48SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 2:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:49SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
- 2:51SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's on the other side of the park.
- 2:53SPEAKER_03: You can hardly get there.
- 2:54SPEAKER_03: The wait time is ridiculous.
- 2:57SPEAKER_03: Bonkers.
- 2:59SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's over before it starts.
- 3:02SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't know.
- 3:03SPEAKER_03: I mean, um Barnstormer for me is is a is a pass.
- 3:06SPEAKER_03: I mean, even if you got little kids, I'd send you to over to the little water uh spouts to run in them before the barnstormer.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: I'm not listening I'm not calling you out, but do you actually if you wanted to ride Barnstormer, would you fit in the cart?
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: Did you just call me fat?
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: I didn't say that.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: That didn't come out of my mouth.
- 3:25SPEAKER_03: That's why I can I can say it is not a great ride.
- 3:30SPEAKER_03: I mean, you look at Rad in the in the margin carpets, like uh that's a kiddie ride, still fun, still good area, still chill.
- 3:37SPEAKER_03: I mean, Disney says, hey, we're gonna give you a roller coaster, but they didn't.
- 3:41SPEAKER_03: They gave you, I don't know what it is.
- 3:43SPEAKER_03: I I mean, I'm not a fan.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: They give you they gave you a kitty beginner roller coaster, is what it is.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: And I I've ridden Barnstormer with my with my girls and or friends of ours, and I've I think I've ridden it like six times in a row to the point where my buddy Sean and I were like, okay, it's time, time to get off now.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be sick.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: After six times of going around around on the Barnstormer, I think it was like at a Christmas party or something, so there was barely anybody in the park.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't recommend riding Barnsturmer six times in a row.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: It sounds like you don't recommend it at all.
- 4:19SPEAKER_03: No, it's just a ploy from Big Roller Coaster to get you to ride their roller coasters.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: I'm out.
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: You're out.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Are you ready for mine?
- 4:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 4:31SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 4:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: Um remember to those to those listening, uh, neither one of us knows what we picked.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: This is another blind.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: We don't have any idea.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: That's what makes it more fun.
- 4:41SPEAKER_03: So, just so we know, right?
- 4:42SPEAKER_03: It's too much real estate, it's too far out of the way, it's not good.
- 4:45SPEAKER_03: Barnstorm is there.
- 4:46SPEAKER_03: So let's let's see how it competes with yours.
- 4:48SPEAKER_03: What do you got?
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Too much real estate.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna lead right into that.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: Tomorrowland speedway.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: Way too much real estate, yeah, way too much real estate.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: It's 2026.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: We have electric vehicles and practically flying planes.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: We're in the we live in the age of the Jetsons.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: We should not be driving Oh my gosh.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: We we should not be driving gas-guzzling go-karts around a giant track that really don't really go anywhere and give you very limited range to drive.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: And you know, it does stink the gas over there, too.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, it's bad.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: You know who I really feel bad for?
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: I really feel bad for the cast members that work that ride.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: I feel awful for them.
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: They're all like young and 20-somethings, they're probably all in the college program and like, hey, good job, you got a job at Disney, we're gonna stick you here.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: And uh it may not be as magical as what they hoped for working for the mouse and at Tomorrowland Speedway, but it's it's loud.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: None of them are wearing earplugs.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Like, I I get they're all young, but I mean, come on.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: It and it smells real bad.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: And you think about being out in that asphalt when it's surface of the sun degree hot in July in Orlando, Florida, man.
- 6:06SPEAKER_03: I mean three-year-olds trying to run you over.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: No, luckily they got a governor on those things, they don't go all that fast, but you can still be a ram from behind.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: Like if you stop or slow down, you can still get hit.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: It's not fun.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, as a as we both have daughters, right?
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: And it are young kids.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: You have to take your younger one on this.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Just because I think it's the worst doesn't mean I think it's not you should do it at least once.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: But it's fun to sit in the pastor's seat and let your little one drive and get that experience for once in a lifetime and you know, go left to right and bang off the center bar that's in between in between the wheels.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: If they're gonna keep it, I think it needs to be changed.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: I think they need to move to electric.
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: I think they need to make a smaller course, and I think they need to add something more to that part of Tomorrowland.
- 6:58SPEAKER_03: I think I think with Pixar place in the car events that they're gonna have over there, the car rides they're gonna have over there, and you look at you know, test track over at Epcot, I mean, that all just makes this ride look so much more antiquated than it was it is.
- 7:10SPEAKER_03: So I thought I think I'm with you.
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, I was kind of roughing up Barnstormer a little bit, uh, but my man Goofy, I love him.
- 7:16SPEAKER_03: But you're right.
- 7:17SPEAKER_03: I think there's uh if you're looking for a connection and and to kids and stuff, and we're we're in a world where we're trying to push people away from using too much fossil fuel, like I think, you know, maybe it's time to find a different way on this thing, or just take that land and make it better because you've got other car attractions in the park now coming with Pixar Plays.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: They started with uh Buzz Lightyear, right?
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: So that that's been revamped.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: But Tomorrowland itself as a whole, I think needs a whole completely new redo.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: But if it were me, Tomorrowland Speedway is gone.
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: Can I tell you my second one?
- 7:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah, please feel free.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: Can I tell you my second one?
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: All right, my second one.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: You're gonna throw stuff at the computer when I tell you this.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: It's Peter Pan's flight.
- 8:00SPEAKER_03: No, it's not.
- 8:01SPEAKER_03: No, it's not.
- 8:02SPEAKER_03: It is it is you just lost credibility.
- 8:05SPEAKER_03: We're we can't have a show if you're anti-Peter Pan.
- 8:08SPEAKER_03: Come on.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: I'm not listening nothing about it said I'm anti-Peter Pan.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: What here's what I don't like.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: So we're good at this, right?
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: We we plan vacations, we do this, we get people's lightning lanes.
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: We're good about getting the lightning lane, okay?
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: If it's 10 a.m., right, and you just got to the park at 8:30, whatever you, right?
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: You slept in.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Are you standing in line for that ride for for 120 plus minutes?
- 8:33SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm not standing 20 minutes.
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, see.
- 8:38SPEAKER_03: Because I've been on it enough times.
- 8:40SPEAKER_03: But if this is my first time and I'm, you know, not Pete Morrison who's gonna end up at the park every single year, I'm gonna tell people they need to be on this ride.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: Even if they're standing 120 plus minutes in the line.
- 8:54SPEAKER_03: This is this, I think we've talked about this one too when we're talking about the rankings at Magic Kingdom.
- 8:58SPEAKER_03: Like this is um Walt Stream, this is old school storytelling.
- 9:02SPEAKER_03: Um, when you're riding that that cart above London, I mean, come on.
- 9:06SPEAKER_03: You it doesn't it doesn't get much better.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: Like this is this is nostalgia, it's uh you know really well built, it's uh it's not a big footprint, it's exactly where it needs to be in the park.
- 9:19SPEAKER_03: Uh I mean you're just saying I hate Disney when you say you hate Pans ride.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: I mean that's I don't I don't hate Pans ride.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't at all.
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: I agree with you.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: I am not the worst.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: I'm not the worst.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: You uh you you made a lot of people mad when you said Barnstormer.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: And I think I think Tomorrowland Speedway, I think Tomorrowland Speedway was a happy medium there.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: Um Pan is this you gotta have the lightning lane.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 9:45SPEAKER_00: You get you get you have to.
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: You have to you can't stand unless you're there for early entry and rope drop and you're doing it right away, get some, right?
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: Do it.
- 9:54SPEAKER_02: Uh but I I just I'm not all of those people love that ride.
- 9:58SPEAKER_02: All of those people want to ride that ride.
- 10:00SPEAKER_02: You were outvoted, my friend.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna spend all episode on Magic Nim, okay?
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: I know you're hurt.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: All right, we lose.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: Do we lose all the listeners already?
- 10:15SPEAKER_00: It's been 10 minutes.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: Maybe we did.
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: Um that one plays here in nostalgia big time, right?
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: I love I love Pan.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: I love I love Peter Pan's flight.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's worth a 120-plus minute wait if you don't have a lightning lane.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: Fair.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: All right, that's all I that's all I'm saying.
- 10:32SPEAKER_03: Rolling out of Magic Kingdom.
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the Speedway is um the the winner for this one.
- 10:37SPEAKER_03: So we'll move on to the next round.
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: All right, round two.
- 10:40SPEAKER_03: Where are we going?
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: You start.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: You start.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: We're going to Epcot, our favorite park.
- 10:44SPEAKER_03: All right, Epcot.
- 10:45SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 10:46SPEAKER_03: Same format.
- 10:46SPEAKER_03: This is easy.
- 10:47SPEAKER_03: I um, you know, and and this is gonna annoy some people.
- 10:51SPEAKER_03: I um apparently I don't love old Epcot as much as I thought I did.
- 10:57SPEAKER_03: I'm going through this list and I'm like, all right, living with the land, yeah, that's old Epcot, love it.
- 11:02SPEAKER_03: But most of the other ones on my list that I don't like, I have three of them.
- 11:05SPEAKER_03: They're all old Epcot.
- 11:06SPEAKER_03: But we're gonna start with um the the clear one for me.
- 11:10SPEAKER_03: Not just because I'm old and have um motion problems, but just because I don't like it, I'm going with mission space.
- 11:16SPEAKER_03: That's a good thing.
- 11:17SPEAKER_03: What is the orange clean?
- 11:19SPEAKER_03: But you will pick that fast one and you'll be like, you might get motion sensitive.
- 11:22SPEAKER_03: It's not might, you will.
- 11:24SPEAKER_03: Like you it's you're leaving the earth and uh your stomach's leaving your body.
- 11:29SPEAKER_03: Like it's not fun.
- 11:30SPEAKER_03: It's not great.
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: You will see the Mickey Waffles again that you had for breakfast.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: And everybody else, everybody else in the watch machine will have will see them too.
- 11:42SPEAKER_03: Look, I've jumped out of planes, I've flipped over vehicles, I've I've done a lot of things, but I will not go on mission space anymore.
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: Oof, there you go.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: You heard it here first, people.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: He's jumped out of planes, he's flipped over vehicles.
- 11:55SPEAKER_03: He's saying hello to the Phoenicians before I go on mission space, and that's saying hello to the space.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: They deserved, they deserved uh to be said hello to, I think.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I'm with you, man.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: Uh, mission space is not for me.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: Not I'm never I've never gone on it.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: I heed the warnings, I see the signs, we know what's gonna happen.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be miserable, so I'm not doing it.
- 12:17SPEAKER_03: Um I think I want to put you on it now, just so you have experience with it since you've never been on it.
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: Wait, before or after we hit the world showcase, it may make a difference.
- 12:28SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna get you to lose a bet, and that bet is you have to ride mission space.
- 12:33SPEAKER_03: We're gonna film it for the podcast.
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: That's not gonna go well.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: What's that gonna go?
- 12:38SPEAKER_00: I like I love that idea, but it's not gonna go well.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: Um Dear listeners, all right.
- 12:44SPEAKER_03: No, I think that was a good one.
- 12:45SPEAKER_03: I think it's a good one.
- 12:45SPEAKER_03: Let me give you mine.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: The worst beyond the magic at gmail.com, people.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: Tell us what you feel.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: My pick is Journey to Imagination with Figment.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: These this little pink tiny dinosaur.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Where does he belong?
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: He's around because he's an old Epcot.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: I guess at D23, like the the dream maker or whatever the heck he is is coming back to that ride.
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: They're gonna redo it somehow.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Like, I've never gotten it.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: I think it's just a giant waste, a huge ride.
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: I I don't keep keep Figment.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: So you do a meet and greet.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: Keep that part.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what Disney is about, right?
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: Meeting that character.
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: But to devote the entire side of the park there in a giant pavilion, a giant ride, I don't know, man.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: I think it's I think it's time for the little pink tiny dragon or purple dragon to to go.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: It is goodbye.
- 13:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I totally agree with you.
- 13:46SPEAKER_03: When I was a kid, I was in awe.
- 13:48SPEAKER_03: Like I was like, this is amazing, imagination is amazing, I love Figment.
- 13:54SPEAKER_03: But man, that was a couple few decades ago.
- 13:57SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, I've said this before.
- 13:59SPEAKER_03: We need we need an update there.
- 14:01SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 14:02SPEAKER_03: Well, if you're listening, send send send Ouija Ward messages to the crew.
- 14:06SPEAKER_03: It's time, it's time to update Figment.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: It's definitely up time to update Figment or kiss and goodbye altogether.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: Uh again, we're not we're not attacking Figment the character by any means.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: I think he should stay, or she, or whatever it is, whatever the dinosaur dinosaur is.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: I think I think the meet and green should stay.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: Um, the ride itself, it just needs to be gone.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: I think Disney fans, they love Figment, but defending that somehow, like they have to like reach for the like hidden stars in the air to like come up with the ideas to defend him.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: I've never got it.
- 14:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.
- 14:42SPEAKER_03: It's all about imagineers and ideas and and these new brand new ideas and and what Epcot brings.
- 14:50SPEAKER_03: Like your whole premise is out of date.
- 14:52SPEAKER_03: So you need to show that you can come up with something even better.
- 14:56SPEAKER_03: Like, what's the next uh technological advance that we're gonna do here at Disney and wrap that into a continued Figment update every single time?
- 15:05SPEAKER_03: When they came out with Pandora and the screens, they could have done something very easily with Figment at the same time and been like, hey, we're at the cutting edge of these imaginations, and we want to bring you know whatever you can think of to life.
- 15:16SPEAKER_03: I think there's a big place for that.
- 15:18SPEAKER_03: Anyway, another one we could talk your days on.
- 15:20SPEAKER_03: But the big question is, my friend, who is who is who should go?
- 15:25SPEAKER_03: Is it Figment or is it uh spaceshipper?
- 15:29SPEAKER_03: No, I'm sorry, Mission Space, Mission Space.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: Mission Space.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Uh, if if I want to keep the Mickey Waffles down that I want to eat, uh that I ate that morning, um, we're we're kicking, we're kicking mission space right out the door.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Bye.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 15:41SPEAKER_03: I think Figment wins just because he's Figment or their Figment, but uh I think mission space just because it's terrible.
- 15:52SPEAKER_03: All right, so we got two now.
- 15:53SPEAKER_03: We've got um Mission Space, and that's the clear winner.
- 15:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's why it's there.
- 15:58SPEAKER_03: We're gonna go into a dangerous area.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: My favorite part.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: I am.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: I am gonna go first on this one.
- 16:07SPEAKER_03: Good.
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- 16:14SPEAKER_00: I'm a Star Wars nerd.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: I love Hollywood Studios.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: I love the Lamba too.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad that we have Smuggler's Run and Rise of the Resistance, and they brought that land to life.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: I can live, I can be Han Solo as much as I want when I walk through that land.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's awesome.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Uh however, there are parts of that park that I don't love.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't love Toy Storyland because it's hot all the time and there's no shade whatsoever in that part of the park.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: And the ride I don't like the most is in that part of the park, and that's Alien Swirling Saucers.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: I I think if you're waiting for your lightning lane for Slinky Dog, or you just got off uh Toys Terra Mania, or you're waiting for one of those rides to open up for your lightning lane to come, uh, and it's like a 10-minute wait for alien swirling saucers, do it.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: Go for it, I guess.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: But it's it's another one of those that's gonna make me sick, and it's not fun.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: It throws you back and forth.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, I don't love it.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: I don't love it.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: That's that's how I feel.
- 17:20SPEAKER_03: Okay, first, one, you're one of those Disney's not it's not Disney's fault it's hot outside.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: Okay, true.
- 17:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you can't go to Cas Relations and be like, hey, I got wet on the water ride.
- 17:33SPEAKER_03: I got hot at Disney.
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: I I guarantee you that someone's complained about the heat.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: I guarantee you.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: If they're gonna complain that it got wet on Cali River Rapids, they complain that it's it's hotter than the surface of the sun here today, and you guys did nothing about it.
- 17:48SPEAKER_03: I want to speak to the sun on vacation, that's terrible.
- 17:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
- 17:52SPEAKER_03: It's a kitty ride, man.
- 17:53SPEAKER_03: You know, you're not supposed to love it.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: But you know, true.
- 17:57SPEAKER_03: It's like teacups.
- 17:58SPEAKER_03: Like, I know that's gonna make me sick.
- 17:59SPEAKER_03: I'm just not gonna go on it.
- 18:00SPEAKER_03: But I know those kids like to get them going spinning around and enjoying their life and having the best time.
- 18:04SPEAKER_03: I get it.
- 18:06SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 18:06SPEAKER_03: Are you ready for mine?
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 18:10SPEAKER_03: You're not.
- 18:11SPEAKER_01: You are not ready for mine.
- 18:15SPEAKER_03: Uh, excuse me.
- 18:16SPEAKER_03: All right, so here it is.
- 18:18SPEAKER_03: Here it is, friends, when you heard it first.
- 18:19SPEAKER_03: Here's my hot take on Hollywood Studios.
- 18:22SPEAKER_03: It's uh it's the Millennium Falcon.
- 18:25SPEAKER_03: I don't like this.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: I don't like this already.
- 18:28SPEAKER_03: You're just gonna get in this thing.
- 18:30SPEAKER_03: There's a bunch of screaming, nobody knows what to do.
- 18:32SPEAKER_03: You're crashing into things everywhere.
- 18:34SPEAKER_03: You got guys in the back that are just snotting all over the controls, crashing into things.
- 18:40SPEAKER_03: Like it's a big chunk of metal just rolling down over more metal.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: I don't love it, man.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: That that big hunk chunk of metal is the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy, sir.
- 18:51SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 18:51SPEAKER_03: But all you're doing is smashing buttons and crashing into things.
- 18:55SPEAKER_03: I mean, I can do that at Chuck E.
- 18:57SPEAKER_03: Cheese.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
- 19:01SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
- 19:02SPEAKER_03: Oh, God.
- 19:03SPEAKER_03: And then you gotta wait three hours to get on there before you had to get up at four o'clock in the morning just to get your uh, you know, your uh virtual pass, virtual lane.
- 19:14SPEAKER_03: It's too much.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: Tell me how you really feel, sir.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Are we friends anymore?
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: This is this is payback for Pan, by the way.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: I deserve that.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: I deserve that.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: I I get it.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't care what you say.
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: It's what it is.
- 19:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
- 19:37SPEAKER_00: You could be wrong.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Again, we talked about this is America, you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: We agree to disagree.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't like Pan.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: Screw it.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: Don't like it.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: There I said it.
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: Uh you don't like you don't like the Millennium Falcon.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: All right, smell goes wrong.
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: You don't like it.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: Um, I love that ride.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: Uh even though it's a it's a screen ride, I'm still immersed in it.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: I'm still Han Solo.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: I still get to fly my ship.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: Uh don't fly with the six-year-old pilot.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: That's how you win at this ride, is if you make sure your your pilot understands what they're doing.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: Um and the guys in the backmaster buttons help a lot, just so you know.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: Just so you know.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, we talked about this all on our on our Hollywood Studios episode.
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: Go back and listen to it.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: It's a good one.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: It's one of my favorite ones.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: Matter of fact, when I when I tell people about the podcast, I tell them not to listen to episode one because it's terrible.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: And I tell them, I tell them to fast forward to episode three, which is a Hollywood Studios one, because I got a brand new microphone.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: And uh we finally finally got the hang of this thing around episode three.
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: So anyway.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we did.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: We did.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't I don't love that you picked this one.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Um I don't love it.
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: I think we're we're friends and we have to agree with each other here and there.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: I think the wait time on this one could be silly.
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: It could be 45 minutes, it could be it could be 60 minutes.
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: Um I would wait 30 minutes for this if I didn't have a lightning lane.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: If it was over 30 minutes, I'm not sure if I would if I would wait over 30 minutes for it.
- 21:12SPEAKER_00: But again, we go every year, right?
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: So think about somebody who's never been before.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: Would you tell them to to get on this ride?
- 21:19SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
- 21:20SPEAKER_03: I would I mean I would tell them to get on this one if they're a Star Wars fan.
- 21:23SPEAKER_03: If they don't care at all about Star Wars, um, I would send him to the other one and not um to Millennium Falcon.
- 21:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 21:31SPEAKER_03: Um because uh you know I think the the wait time, like you said, is is really what what draws you off.
- 21:38SPEAKER_00: And the mashing buttons.
- 21:40SPEAKER_00: Your favorite thing, the mashing buttons.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: Mashing buttons matters.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm sorry, that ride.
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: Look what look what we have to choose from at Hollywood Studios.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: We have the the Tower of Terror, Rise of Resistance, Slinky Dog, Runaway Railway, Millennium Falcon, Alien uh I mean, Aliens Warren Saucers is gone.
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: Somebody somebody has to finish last.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: And that's who it's gonna be.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: Of all those rides.
- 22:04SPEAKER_03: Alright.
- 22:04SPEAKER_03: I know you're feeling strongly about it.
- 22:06SPEAKER_03: I know you are.
- 22:07SPEAKER_03: I'd be so what is the winner?
- 22:08SPEAKER_03: Are you saying the saucers are the winner?
- 22:11SPEAKER_03: I th I think so.
- 22:13SPEAKER_03: I think the saucers are a winner.
- 22:14SPEAKER_03: Because if I had to go to and and you you could only do one ride, I would send you to Millennium over Saucers, yeah.
- 22:22SPEAKER_03: But if I had to do only one Star Wars ride, I'd send you to Rise over Millennium, but I'd also send you to Star Tours over Millennium.
- 22:30SPEAKER_03: No thanks.
- 22:32SPEAKER_03: No thanks.
- 22:33SPEAKER_03: At least with Star Wars, you might be the rebel.
- 22:36SPEAKER_03: Like, come on.
- 22:36SPEAKER_03: Like there's that's what I'm saying.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: You could be that guy, right?
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: Uh you could also be stuck in a giant metal two from the 90s watching the screen in front of you.
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean thrown around.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: Like that.
- 22:49SPEAKER_00: That's what that ride is.
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: That's what that ride is.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I don't love that one.
- 22:56SPEAKER_00: That was actually my number two.
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: Star Wars, Star Trek, believe it or not, as much of a star uh Star Wars fan as I am, because I am, uh, that was my number two.
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: And you want to hear my number three?
- 23:06SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: I got number three.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: Mickey's Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway.
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: That's it?
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: That's my third one.
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: I don't think we can do this anymore.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Nothing can stop us now.
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: Um This is what this is about.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: Uh this is a time where we come together and share secrets with each other, I guess.
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: Um I think I think Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway gets better if you go to baseline tap house first.
- 23:32SPEAKER_03: I I it's yes, everything's better after baseline tap house.
- 23:35SPEAKER_03: But this is this is nostalgia, this is classic, this is wonderful, it's a fun ride.
- 23:42SPEAKER_03: I mean, you even told me about the damn flute playing octopus.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: Like Trumpet Squid, Trumpet Squid.
- 23:51SPEAKER_03: Trumpet Squid, Trumpet Squid.
- 23:53SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm in, I'm in on that one.
- 23:54SPEAKER_03: I think you're wrong on this one, but that's all right.
- 23:57SPEAKER_03: So if you compromise, we'll we'll let saucers be the winner.
- 24:02SPEAKER_00: Yes, I agree.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: Agree, agree, agree.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: So that that is the winner.
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: Uh Aliens Warning Saucters is the worst ride at Hollywood Studios.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's go to my favorite park to Animal Kingdom.
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: Why why is it your favorite park?
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Tell me why it's your favorite.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: I can't remember if we talked about it in the past.
- 24:21SPEAKER_03: So that's one of my shows when we're with your sister.
- 24:24SPEAKER_03: Like the I'll tell people to go listen to that show as well, because uh not only your sister is an amazing cast member, was an amazing cast member, but she gets the point of Animal Kingdom in that it is about conservation, it's about the animals, it's about being involved in all those um moments with um how we react to animals in nature.
- 24:44SPEAKER_03: It's not just Indiana Jones, although I'm super stoked for Indiana Jones, I'm not gonna lie.
- 24:49SPEAKER_03: But I mean, like old Epcot, we're trying to hang on to um those educational values and stuff, and I think Animal Kingdom still hangs onto those as well.
- 24:56SPEAKER_03: I think people rush through this one too too fast.
- 24:59SPEAKER_03: Wild Africa Trek is something you pay extra for um as your travel agent.
- 25:04SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you about this, so you don't have to do it, but it is an amazing, amazing experience where you get to feed the rhinoceros and you get to walk the um rickety bridges out behind the crocodiles.
- 25:14SPEAKER_03: It's it's amazing.
- 25:15SPEAKER_03: Like the whole park.
- 25:16SPEAKER_03: Let's go back to Harrison Ford here for a minute.
- 25:19SPEAKER_03: The Millennium Falcon reminds you of being Han Solo, but going through the jungles in that Africa track or going around Animal Kingdom reminds me of being um uh Indiana Jones.
- 25:31SPEAKER_03: So it all comes down to Harrison Ford for me.
- 25:34SPEAKER_00: So we both have a crush in Harrison Ford.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: Got it.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: 100%.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: That's that yeah.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: Yep, there you go.
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: Don't get me started on Blade Runner.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: All right, so give me your pick for for Animal Kingdom.
- 25:47SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is an easy one.
- 25:49SPEAKER_03: Um, the artist formerly known as Bug's Life, they uh revamped it to Zootopia.
- 25:54SPEAKER_03: Here's the hot take kids, it's still terrible.
- 25:58SPEAKER_03: God!
- 25:59SPEAKER_00: It is not it is not terrible at all.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: It's so much better.
- 26:03SPEAKER_03: You better rethink it.
- 26:04SPEAKER_03: It does all the same shit stuff.
- 26:07SPEAKER_03: Um the the seat vibrates and it's on you.
- 26:11SPEAKER_03: Like give me something new, man.
- 26:13SPEAKER_03: I mean granted I was I was a little um I was a little uh not feeling well that morning, so maybe I'll give it a second chance next time.
- 26:21SPEAKER_00: Why why why were you not feeling well?
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: Do you want to tell uh me about why you weren't feeling well?
- 26:26SPEAKER_03: I think I think there was a specific bar at Walt Disney World that may have um poisoned me.
- 26:34SPEAKER_03: Probably.
- 26:35SPEAKER_03: Probably.
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: Um alright, so yeah, I don't agree with that one either.
- 26:39SPEAKER_00: It's alright.
- 26:40SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: What'd you take?
- 26:42SPEAKER_00: I didn't I didn't like Bug's Light to begin with.
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: I didn't, I mean, I I remember the movie when from when I was little, of course.
- 26:49SPEAKER_00: I think it was a good movie.
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: I I think it was long overdue for that for that part, for the tree of life to be redone.
- 26:55SPEAKER_00: Sure.
- 26:56SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh I I really like how they encompassed Zootopia, Better to Zoogether, and I and Shakira.
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on, why do we not like Shakira?
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh of course we like Shakira.
- 27:09SPEAKER_00: Um they got you dancing in the seat to it.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: Like it it's it's I mean, the the mice still go underneath your seat, spoilers, like you said, but uh there's a lot of the same effects.
- 27:21SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's as scary as a bug's life was.
- 27:24SPEAKER_00: Do you agree?
- 27:25SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
- 27:26SPEAKER_03: It's a little it's more lighthearted, so the kids can get behind it without leaving their crying and screaming, which was a good thing.
- 27:33SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
- 27:33SPEAKER_00: There aren't killer right, there aren't killer grasshoppers like there was in a bug's life.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: So you definitely had some five-year-olds that were screaming and running for the doors when they when they came out.
- 27:43SPEAKER_00: So that's not the case with this one, but I I think it was a good revamp.
- 27:47SPEAKER_00: I think it was a good redo, and I like I like that they kept it there in a tree of life and and made it current.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: Made it current.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: Good redo.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: It's great that it's current, still stinks.
- 27:58SPEAKER_01: Still stinks.
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: Um all right, so my pick is uh is Navi River Journey.
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know I don't disagree with you.
- 28:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 28:13SPEAKER_03: It's better than Bugs' Life.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: This is another It is better than Bug's Life.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Here's your strategy.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: If you rope drop Animal Kingdom and you head straight for Flight of Passage, which obviously you want to do, right?
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: Otherwise you have to pay for it, or stand in line for a billion hours, which you don't want to do.
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: Um, you go to Flight of Passage, you get off Flight of Passage, and you work your way over to Navi River Journey, which most people do.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: And that time in the day, earlier in the morning, there's not a huge weight.
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: Navi River Journey is just like it's just a slow-moving boat ride that we're moving through the park or through the um the the Navi's land, and there's all kinds of screens everywhere, and it just it's pretty, but there's there's nothing like there that screams like you need to come back to this ride.
- 29:02SPEAKER_00: And the wait time for this one is it can be several hours long, and I I just don't understand why why that is.
- 29:11SPEAKER_00: I guess if people don't want to pay for lightning lanes, they're gonna stand in a line anyway.
- 29:15SPEAKER_00: If they're okay with that, I'm not okay with that.
- 29:17SPEAKER_00: You're you're not okay with that.
- 29:19SPEAKER_03: Um about this ride, Jamie.
- 29:22SPEAKER_03: It's uh you know, uh there's a lot of reasons to like it.
- 29:26SPEAKER_03: So one is um it's if you're in that hot Florida sun in the middle of the day, like this is a completely dark ride.
- 29:35SPEAKER_03: Um it's very cool, it's very chill, it's a nice little 10-minute get out, get cool, relax.
- 29:42SPEAKER_03: Not bad.
- 29:42SPEAKER_03: It's a sure.
- 29:46SPEAKER_03: I've never done it, but I would think it's great.
- 29:48SPEAKER_03: Um, I think people will probably enjoy it in that sense.
- 29:50SPEAKER_03: It's visual, it's great.
- 29:52SPEAKER_03: But just getting away from the hot sun is also good.
- 29:54SPEAKER_03: But I I don't disagree with you.
- 29:55SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a skip for me every single time.
- 29:57SPEAKER_03: I've done it once.
- 29:58SPEAKER_03: I know I've done it twice, and so that's good for me.
- 30:01SPEAKER_00: Good.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: Um, I I think the animatronic at the end of it is is is worth it.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: But here's the thing if you want more people to come to that ride, and if you want more immersion into the Navi land and uh that whole theming, I think there needs to be more than one of those animatronics in that ride.
- 30:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, agreed.
- 30:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 30:24SPEAKER_03: You know, it's funny too.
- 30:25SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a catch-22 with some of these rides.
- 30:28SPEAKER_03: You look at Haunted Mansion and all of the boats or rides are right next to each other, all attached, right?
- 30:35SPEAKER_03: Same with Pan.
- 30:36SPEAKER_03: And that way you can just hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of people through that ride as fast as possible.
- 30:41SPEAKER_03: Um, you want you want more people to go through the rides.
- 30:44SPEAKER_03: You lose a little something when everybody is elbow to elbow on the ride.
- 30:48SPEAKER_03: So at least this one you get your own experience.
- 30:50SPEAKER_03: So you're not like you know, elbow to elbow with everybody else.
- 30:53SPEAKER_03: It's not that haunted mansion is bad.
- 30:54SPEAKER_03: I love Haunted Mansion.
- 30:55SPEAKER_03: Um, but they are you are very close to see ride.
- 30:59SPEAKER_03: Doom bug doom buggies.
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: Doom buggies, of course.
- 31:04SPEAKER_03: Uh so I guess we have the argument of uh Zootopia versus Navi River.
- 31:10SPEAKER_03: And at this point, I would I would send someone to Navi River because of the experience over Zootopia for sure.
- 31:16SPEAKER_03: How about what do you think?
- 31:18SPEAKER_00: I think you're wrong.
- 31:22SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 31:23SPEAKER_03: Well, how much is the wait time ever for Zootopia?
- 31:26SPEAKER_00: It's never that long.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: It's like less than 30 minutes because they that's how I don't know how long the show runs for.
- 31:33SPEAKER_00: It doesn't.
- 31:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's about I think it's about 14 minutes.
- 31:36SPEAKER_03: So I think that's the longest your wait time is.
- 31:39SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 31:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I've I've never seen it.
- 31:40SPEAKER_03: Well, it also takes a mile to walk in there, too.
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: So it does.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: It it you go around um you go around the tree of life, and there it's a lot of switchbacks around the tree of life.
- 31:51SPEAKER_00: And when you're in that line or in that queue, take a look around.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: Like look look at the tree of life.
- 31:56SPEAKER_00: You're right at the base of it, and figure out how many different animals you could see.
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: I I think the queue of that attraction is is worth it, um, especially if you've never been before.
- 32:06SPEAKER_00: But go ahead.
- 32:08SPEAKER_03: But but what people don't know about the tree of life, and most people skip, there are paths that you can walk without getting on the ride.
- 32:16SPEAKER_03: You can walk around that.
- 32:17SPEAKER_03: There's paths inside that tree of life that nobody ever go into.
- 32:21SPEAKER_03: Um, you can walk around there, you can see the animals from different perspectives and stuff.
- 32:24SPEAKER_03: There's usually not a line.
- 32:25SPEAKER_03: Sometimes there's photopass people in there.
- 32:28SPEAKER_03: So, yes, you can see them all while you're waiting in line for the zootopia ride.
- 32:32SPEAKER_03: But you just don't forget that you can also get in some of those paths separately.
- 32:35SPEAKER_03: So you don't have to deal with zootopia.
- 32:39SPEAKER_00: So you had to deal with Zootopia.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: Listen, if Shakira and I met on a street, I would be happy to deal with her.
- 32:45SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm gonna end it there.
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: I've gotcha.
- 32:48SPEAKER_00: So so I'm gonna I'm gonna go on the Zoom Zoopia ride just because of Shakira.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's just that's just me.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: Um we have well.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 32:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do.
- 33:00SPEAKER_00: And I think it's hard for me.
- 33:02SPEAKER_00: I I'm I'm stubborn.
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: Here's my argument.
- 33:05SPEAKER_00: The wait time for Navi River journey, if it's not early morning, I think is is stupid.
- 33:10SPEAKER_00: Um no one should write wait in that wait in line in that line.
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: I don't think the wait for Zootopia Better Together ever gets that long.
- 33:18SPEAKER_03: That's fair.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: Fair.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: If there's if if I'm in the park and there's uh 14-minute wait time for Zootopia versus 30 minutes or more for Navi River, I'll go to Zootopia.
- 33:31SPEAKER_03: So I think that's the answer.
- 33:33SPEAKER_03: So we'll we'll I'm circling uh Navi River.
- 33:35SPEAKER_03: Navi River Journey.
- 33:37SPEAKER_03: Navi River.
- 33:38SPEAKER_03: Alright, now we're getting into the championship round.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: The championship round.
- 33:42SPEAKER_00: Our final four.
- 33:44SPEAKER_00: Our final four.
- 33:45SPEAKER_00: Magic king magic kingdom.
- 33:47SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
- 33:48SPEAKER_03: Magic kingdom.
- 33:49SPEAKER_03: What was the winner?
- 33:49SPEAKER_03: You picked that one.
- 33:51SPEAKER_03: Tomorrowland Speedway.
- 33:53SPEAKER_03: Tomorrowland Speedway.
- 33:55SPEAKER_03: Alright, and so for Epcot, we got Mission Space.
- 33:58SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
- 33:58SPEAKER_03: Hollywood Studios.
- 34:00SPEAKER_03: Um you just narrowly, narrowly beat Millennium Falcon with his tiny little saucers.
- 34:07SPEAKER_03: So the saucers win that one.
- 34:10SPEAKER_00: It's smugglers run.
- 34:11SPEAKER_00: You fly the Millennium Falcon.
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: God, you suck at this game.
- 34:17SPEAKER_03: It's still the Millennium Falcon.
- 34:20SPEAKER_03: Alright, so Smugglers Run.
- 34:22SPEAKER_03: Got it.
- 34:22SPEAKER_03: And then uh Navi River just pushes out Zootopia, formerly known as Bug's Life, to be the worst.
- 34:30SPEAKER_03: Alright, let's get into this championship round.
- 34:32SPEAKER_03: What are we doing here?
- 34:33SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 34:34SPEAKER_00: Of the four, we're gonna debate it.
- 34:37SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: As if we haven't done enough debating.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: Uh which of these, of the four, would we skip first?
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: So we're going to Disney World tomorrow.
- 34:49SPEAKER_00: Which one are we not doing?
- 34:50SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 34:51SPEAKER_03: So I might occasionally do um Navi River.
- 34:56SPEAKER_03: I will occasionally make someone do Mission Space because it's fun to see them miserable.
- 35:04SPEAKER_03: Um if the saucers was zero wait time, I'd get on it, but I'm skipping Navi River every single time.
- 35:10SPEAKER_03: So for me, Navi River is probably the oh no, no, I'll get on Navi River.
- 35:17SPEAKER_03: I'll even send people on Navi River.
- 35:19SPEAKER_03: What I forgot is the one that I never get on every time.
- 35:22SPEAKER_03: And that is the Tomorrowland Speedway.
- 35:24SPEAKER_03: Unless somebody is there and has a grand desire to go, and I'm like, fine, we'll do it.
- 35:29SPEAKER_03: Uh otherwise I will never ever step foot on Tomorrowland Speedway again.
- 35:36SPEAKER_01: What do you think about I I have to agree with you?
- 35:41SPEAKER_01: I have to agree.
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say um aliens wearing saucers, because it's pointless.
- 35:49SPEAKER_00: The three round, right?
- 35:50SPEAKER_00: It's his it's like any of those those rides that the car at your local carnival uh that were put together by some carney in 15 minutes off the bed of a truck.
- 35:59SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's what that ride feels like to me.
- 36:02SPEAKER_00: If it's summertime, you're still inhaling the exhaust, you're still like out on the hot asphalt, you're still banging from left to right, depending on who's driving the car down that center line.
- 36:16SPEAKER_00: You're still getting smashed from behind from the little jerk kid behind you, uh hitting your cart.
- 36:22SPEAKER_00: Like I I think I think Tomorrowland Speedway takes the cake on that one.
- 36:26SPEAKER_00: We're gonna skip that.
- 36:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's that's the key.
- 36:28SPEAKER_03: That's the key.
- 36:29SPEAKER_03: You you nailed it with the carnival.
- 36:30SPEAKER_03: I mean, I feel like you can do Tomorrowland Speedway at any um, you know, local carnival fair, uh, you know, whatever amusement park you've got low close to you.
- 36:39SPEAKER_03: Like the it's there.
- 36:40SPEAKER_03: You can go do that there.
- 36:42SPEAKER_03: You go to Disney World for the the higher level experience, and Tomorrowland Speedway is not there yet.
- 36:48SPEAKER_00: It's not there.
- 36:48SPEAKER_00: It never was there.
- 36:50SPEAKER_00: It never was.
- 36:51SPEAKER_00: Maybe the first year.
- 36:52SPEAKER_00: Maybe which is age the worst, do you think?
- 36:55SPEAKER_03: Well, a couple of them are pretty new.
- 36:58SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, I think it's the same thing.
- 37:01SPEAKER_03: I think you know the speedway is age the worst.
- 37:05SPEAKER_03: I think we're into electric cars, we're into different types of cars, you know.
- 37:09SPEAKER_03: They just we're we've got test track, we've got Pixar coming with uh, you know, journey through the the uh off-roading, it's not there.
- 37:17SPEAKER_03: But the rest of them, I mean, saucer's is fairly new, Navi River is is futuristic.
- 37:22SPEAKER_03: Um and then mission spaces aged pretty bad too.
- 37:25SPEAKER_03: It's kind of a 70s vibe to it.
- 37:27SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's you know, when we put someone into outer space, I think that was the impetus for this.
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: Impetus, big words.
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: Smash the same guy who says smashing buttons.
- 37:37SPEAKER_00: Um which attraction would be easiest to remove from our own vacation?
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: I think we've answered this over and over again.
- 37:45SPEAKER_00: I think we we're gonna agree that it's tomorrow land speedway.
- 37:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I'll take that one out.
- 37:50SPEAKER_03: I will take out um just to give you another one.
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: We talked about um Figment, and I am really looking forward to, I know we talked about it, Spaceship Earth's um revamp and what they come with that one.
- 38:03SPEAKER_00: Those are all at the bottom of my list.
- 38:05SPEAKER_00: So Disney hands you a bulldozer.
- 38:07SPEAKER_00: You have to remove one of these for as of tomorrow.
- 38:11SPEAKER_00: Would you agree that Tomorrowland Speedway is gone?
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 38:16SPEAKER_00: Over Alien Swording Saucers, over Mission Space.
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: Over Navi River.
- 38:21SPEAKER_00: Over Navi River.
- 38:22SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 38:23SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 38:23SPEAKER_00: I think I think if it comes down to Navi River and I'm sorry, uh Tomorrowland Speedway and um Mission Space, I'm gonna bulldoze Mission Space because I don't I don't get sick on Tomorrowland Speedway.
- 38:38SPEAKER_00: That's all.
- 38:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 38:40SPEAKER_01: That's a tough one.
- 38:41SPEAKER_00: All right, but yeah.
- 38:43SPEAKER_00: Our final verdict.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it, Pete.
- 38:45SPEAKER_00: What's our final verdict?
- 38:46SPEAKER_00: The worst ride, ladies and gentlemen.
- 38:48SPEAKER_00: You've waited now 42 minutes for the worst ride of Walt Disney World.
- 38:51SPEAKER_00: Here it is, Mr.
- 38:52SPEAKER_00: Pete Morrison's gonna reveal it now.
- 38:54SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
- 38:56SPEAKER_03: With your last argument, I don't know.
- 38:58SPEAKER_03: Are we are we still going with Tomorrowland Speedway?
- 39:01SPEAKER_03: Are we going with Mission Space?
- 39:03SPEAKER_00: It's it's a fine year.
- 39:05SPEAKER_00: It is a I know uh okay.
- 39:07SPEAKER_00: I can ride Tomorrowland Speedway, and I'm gonna take my five-year-old on on Tomorrowland Speedway.
- 39:13SPEAKER_00: If there's any type of wait, and if it's July or August or early September, I'm not gonna go on that.
- 39:19SPEAKER_00: Uh because it's silly hot outside.
- 39:21SPEAKER_03: Is what you're saying.
- 39:22SPEAKER_00: So so we're bulldozing mission space.
- 39:24SPEAKER_00: No more trips to Mars.
- 39:26SPEAKER_00: No more is that where you go?
- 39:28SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
- 39:29SPEAKER_00: I don't want to go.
- 39:30SPEAKER_00: I'm always so sick when I leave there, so it's fine with Maine.
- 39:32SPEAKER_03: Let's get rid of it.
- 39:34SPEAKER_00: Gone.
- 39:34SPEAKER_00: Mission space, goodbye.
- 39:37SPEAKER_03: Everybody is gonna agree with us in all.
- 39:40SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees.
- 39:41SPEAKER_00: People are screaming at their their car stairs right now, maybe.
- 39:44unknown: Yeah.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: Tell me how you really feel by emailing us at the worst beyond the magic at gmail.com.
- 39:52SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 39:53SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 39:53SPEAKER_03: You can find me I'm at petrimax at Instagram.
- 39:56SPEAKER_03: So if you need me, it's P-E-T-R-I-E-M-A-X at Instagram.
- 40:00SPEAKER_03: Some of you have found me, it's great.
- 40:02SPEAKER_03: I've uh gotten two new followers, and that goldfish hasn't learned how to use Instagram yet.
- 40:07SPEAKER_00: So I I haven't gotten any new followers yet.
- 40:10SPEAKER_00: We have our own like our own show page that was that has a whopping 45 followers on it.
- 40:16SPEAKER_00: We uh at the worst beyond the magic probably should put a little effort into that one.
- 40:22SPEAKER_00: Uh the worst beyond the magic on Instagram, and then uh Pete plugged his, so I'll plug mine.
- 40:27SPEAKER_00: I'm at the number five underscore on the underscore fly on Instagram.
- 40:32SPEAKER_00: Let's give um one quick bonus round.
- 40:36SPEAKER_00: Let's not end the episode just yet.
- 40:38SPEAKER_00: Um this is the name of this round is I don't get the hype.
- 40:43SPEAKER_01: I don't get the hype.
- 40:45SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 40:47SPEAKER_01: Just pick something.
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: I don't get the hype.
- 40:51SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 40:52SPEAKER_00: Uh for me, it's gonna be seven dwarfs mind train closely followed by Peter Pan's flight.
- 40:59SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 41:00SPEAKER_00: You insulted you insulted me in my favorite park, and I'm still bitter about it.
- 41:05SPEAKER_00: So Seven Dwarfs Mind Train.
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: I don't get it's not a great roller coaster.
- 41:10SPEAKER_00: Um, it's very short.
- 41:12SPEAKER_00: I think the cue is cool.
- 41:13SPEAKER_00: I think they did a good job there, and then afterwards, when you're walking out, you see all the jewels everywhere at the very end of the ride.
- 41:19SPEAKER_00: Uh, you see the evil witch there.
- 41:21SPEAKER_00: I think that's really cool too.
- 41:22SPEAKER_00: That is um I I it's one I just don't get the hype on.
- 41:28SPEAKER_00: I think it's a it's a better roller coaster than Goofy, your boy, Barnstormer.
- 41:34SPEAKER_00: Um, it's not one I I'm gonna pay an extra however much it is to ride that one.
- 41:40SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm gonna jump on it when the line is is low and not pay for the extra lightning lane for that.
- 41:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I get it.
- 41:47SPEAKER_03: I totally get it.
- 41:48SPEAKER_03: I will, however, take that one over um the smuggler's run.
- 41:53SPEAKER_03: And I will uh agree with you that the ride is um smuggler's run for me is mashing buttons and crashing, and I can do that anywhere.
- 42:04SPEAKER_03: Um at least with at least with seven dwarfs, I can see the uh you know the evil queen, and um we've got uh a good queue.
- 42:14SPEAKER_03: We've got a ride, it's far too short.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: Again, another one like Tron, it should be two laps.
- 42:19SPEAKER_03: Um but I think it's uh generally speaking an okay ride.
- 42:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 42:24SPEAKER_03: But both of them have too much hype too.
- 42:27unknown: Yeah.
- 42:27SPEAKER_00: And then I think the turkey leg.
- 42:29SPEAKER_00: No one needs a turkey leg in their life.
- 42:30SPEAKER_00: No one needs a turkey too much.
- 42:34SPEAKER_00: All right, so since you're a fan of of Peter Pan and I've insulted it earlier, and again, just now, I want you to explain to me this is your redemption time.
- 42:43SPEAKER_00: Explain to me why we're waiting an hour for Peter Pan.
- 42:46SPEAKER_00: Tell me, tell me like it is.
- 42:48SPEAKER_00: Tell me how you feel.
- 42:49SPEAKER_03: Um, I think it's the same answer you have for Smuggler's Run.
- 42:54SPEAKER_03: Um it it of all the rides, that's one of the ones that brings you back there.
- 42:59SPEAKER_03: It brings you back to that childhood magic, brings you back to that space where you are in the story, like you're immersed into something.
- 43:07SPEAKER_03: You want to be Han Solo.
- 43:08SPEAKER_03: And I've always had an affinity for Pan.
- 43:10SPEAKER_03: You literally get on this ship and it floats you above the city, and you are in the story.
- 43:17SPEAKER_03: And it's it's a beautiful ride.
- 43:18SPEAKER_03: Um, the queue is beautiful, the the ride is beautiful, and just I will I will never let go.
- 43:24SPEAKER_03: I will die on that hill.
- 43:25SPEAKER_03: I will die on Pan's Hill.
- 43:27SPEAKER_03: Somehow I had to grow up, but I'm not letting go of Pan as one of the premier rides at Walt Disney World resort.
- 43:33SPEAKER_00: Never grow up.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: Never grow up.
- 43:36SPEAKER_00: All right, in closing, in closing, we have officially named the worst ride in Walt Disney World.
- 43:43SPEAKER_03: Mission Space.
- 43:44SPEAKER_00: Will anybody mission space, will anybody disagree with us?
- 43:48SPEAKER_03: No, they're all gonna agree wholeheartedly with us.
- 43:54SPEAKER_00: And to be clear, these are our opinions.
- 43:56SPEAKER_00: If you love one of the rides we just destroyed, right.
- 43:59SPEAKER_00: Are they wrong or they're right?
- 44:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:02SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, they can be right, they can be wrong.
- 44:04SPEAKER_03: I mean, we know Disney fans are, you know, reasonable about their attractions and food.
- 44:13SPEAKER_01: Attractions and food.
- 44:16SPEAKER_03: Unlike yourself, people get a little offended when you tell them their childhood favorite sucks.
- 44:24SPEAKER_00: For the record, the word sucks didn't come out of my mouth at all during this period.
- 44:28SPEAKER_00: You you put words in my mouth.
- 44:29SPEAKER_00: It's it's okay.
- 44:30SPEAKER_00: It's all right.
- 44:31SPEAKER_00: We're still we're still friends for now.
- 44:33SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: Um, until next time, we're here to give you the real deal, people.
- 44:39SPEAKER_00: Mouse droppings included.
- 44:41SPEAKER_00: This has been the worst Beyond the Magic.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening.