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The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 9) (8/11/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in
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  Speaker 1: to that New Mexico interim report from their Truth Commission
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement calls to Zoro Ranch. A full record of
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  Speaker 1: police activity on Zoro Ranch is not complete. It's therefore
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  Speaker 1: too early to discern any clear pattern or theme. This
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  Speaker 1: summary of law enforcement calls to Zoro Ranch is derived
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  Speaker 1: from records obtained by the New Mexico Department of Public
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  Speaker 1: Safety and the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office in response
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  Speaker 1: to Commission subpoenas. Additional information was obtained from the EFTA
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  Speaker 1: release from the DOJ. According to records released under the EFTA,
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  Speaker 1: an emergency call was placed to New Mexico law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: on February sixteenth, twenty sixteen, at eight forty three a m.
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  Speaker 1: From the mainland line on Zoro Ranch. The call was
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  Speaker 1: placed and the dialer hung up the dispatch call back
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  Speaker 1: and spoke with Karen Gordon, a ranch manager, who advised
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  Speaker 1: that everything's fine and later told police who were dispatched
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  Speaker 1: that a call was never made from the property. The
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  Speaker 1: call was logged by the Regional Emergency Communication Center which
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  Speaker 1: is operated jointly by the City and County of Santa Fe.
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  Speaker 1: According to emails between ranch manager Bryce Gordon and Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: Bryce stated it was probably the same patrol car we
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  Speaker 1: spotted just before Lammy. Epstein forwarded the email to his pilot,
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  Speaker 1: Larry Vasoski, with a note that said instinct, to which
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  Speaker 1: the pilot agreed. According to the Santa Fe New Mexican
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  Speaker 1: there was no police report in conjunction with the twenty
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  Speaker 1: sixteen call. The dispatch log noted no report required. The
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  Speaker 1: Commission will continue to investigate this incident. Importantly, in August
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  Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, the New Mexico State Police were called
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  Speaker 1: to Zoro Ranch to investigate a report of a firearm theft.
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  Speaker 1: At this time, the Commission has obtained no evidence showing
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  Speaker 1: that Epstein was ever under investigation for a lawful possession
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  Speaker 1: of firearm. A follow up subpoeno will be issued to
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  Speaker 1: the New Mexico Department of Public Safety for additional information
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  Speaker 1: about the August twenty eighteen State Police call to Zoro Ranch,
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  Speaker 1: as well as for information regarding any other State police
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  Speaker 1: investigation relating in any way to Zoro Ranch or its employees.
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  Speaker 1: Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office records documents six calls to
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  Speaker 1: Zorro Ranch, but all of them occurred after Epstein's death
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  Speaker 1: in August of twenty nineteen. The February twenty sixteen call
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  Speaker 1: described above logged separately by the Regional Emergency Communication Center.
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  Speaker 1: On November eleventh, twenty nineteen, Deputy Maria Hernandez of the
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  Speaker 1: Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office was dispatched to Saint Vincent's
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  Speaker 1: Hospital in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where she made contact
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  Speaker 1: with Steve Chavez, a ranch hand employed at Zoro Ranch.
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  Speaker 1: Chavez reported that two men approached him while he was
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  Speaker 1: posting no trespassing signs on Zoro Ranch. The two males,
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  Speaker 1: who spoke Spanish, proceeded to assault them by punching and
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  Speaker 1: kicking them. The men fled and the black SUV was
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  Speaker 1: seen in the area. Officer Hernandez made contact with Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Gordon to inquire about persons seen in the area. The
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  Speaker 1: assailants were not identified were apprehended. On May seventh, twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Deputy Joe Vigil of the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Deputy
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  Speaker 1: Office was dispatched the forty nine Zoro Ranch Road to
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  Speaker 1: investigate a report of trespassers. Officer Vigil spoke with Karen Gordon,
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  Speaker 1: who said she heard the security alarm go off and
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  Speaker 1: then saw two males walking on the property. Gordon confronted
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  Speaker 1: the men and asked them what they were doing there,
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  Speaker 1: and they said they'd been told by True News that
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  Speaker 1: the place was a tourist attraction and they could go
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  Speaker 1: wherever they wanted on the property. Gordon told the men
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  Speaker 1: they were trespassing and they left. Two Zoro Ranch workers
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  Speaker 1: then got on their ATVs and attempted to locate the trespassers,
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  Speaker 1: to no avail. No further action was taken. On June fifteenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Deputy Rachel Weber was dispatched to Zoro Ranch
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  Speaker 1: to investigate a burglary. Ranch personnel had apprehended the subjects,
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  Speaker 1: a male and a female, later identified as Darryl Carson
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  Speaker 1: and Melanie Viegis, and were holding them at gunpoint. Upon investigation,
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  Speaker 1: it was determined that Carson and Viegas breached a storage
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  Speaker 1: container and stole an antique Citruan car radiator which had
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  Speaker 1: been converted into a shelf. The pair were taken into custody, detained,
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  Speaker 1: and charged with possession of burglary tools, larceny, and criminal
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  Speaker 1: damage to property. The case status is unknown at this time.
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  Speaker 1: On August twenty fourth, twenty twenty, Deputy g Nieto made
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  Speaker 1: telephonic contact with a survivor who reported that Epstein sexually
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  Speaker 1: assaulted him in Los Angeles on December fifth, nineteen ninety three.
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  Speaker 1: The case was closed when Epstein was declared deceased. On
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  Speaker 1: February sixteenth, twenty twenty six, Deputy Clay Collison was dispatched
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  Speaker 1: to Zoro Ranch to investigate a report of a threat
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  Speaker 1: made by a person outside the front gate of the ranch.
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  Speaker 1: According to the report, the person brandished the crowbar and
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  Speaker 1: stated I just got out of prison and I will
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  Speaker 1: expletive deleted you up. The case is still open. On
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  Speaker 1: February twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, Deputy Joshua Thomas was
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  Speaker 1: dispatched to Zoro Ranch to investigate the theft of a
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  Speaker 1: security camera. Discussion of the investigative areas. This investigative area
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  Speaker 1: covers the areas of grooming abuse occurring at the Zoro Ranch,
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  Speaker 1: recruitment and interstate trafficking evidence discussed in this section. Is preliminary,
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  Speaker 1: and the Commission anticipates additional survivors may come forward. FBI
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  Speaker 1: and Federal court records established that miners were brought to
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's Oro ranch and abuse there. The Maxwell indictment charges
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  Speaker 1: that a miner was groomed at the property in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety six, starting with an unsolicited topless massage. A victim
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  Speaker 1: sentencing statement described being flown to the ranch at fifteen
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and four and sexually molested for many hours.
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  Speaker 1: These are separate incidents involving different victims spanning at least
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  Speaker 1: eight years. Positive identification of survivors has been hampered by
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  Speaker 1: the DOJ's refusal to release unreadacted copies of court and
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  Speaker 1: other records. Nonetheless, the evidence reviewed to date supports the
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  Speaker 1: conclusion that Epstein abused at least five women and girls
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  Speaker 1: on Zoro Ranch between nineteen ninety six and twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: including one who is now deceased. Survivors. The Commission has
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  Speaker 1: reviewed the reports of five survivors. There are almost certainly
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  Speaker 1: additional survivors who fell prey to Epstein in New Mexico. Indeed,
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  Speaker 1: the Commission has counted at least thirty other individuals who
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  Speaker 1: potentially were abused by Epstein in New Mexico. The exclusion
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  Speaker 1: of survivor from the list below is not intended as
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  Speaker 1: a comment on the credibility of a survivor's report of abuse. However,
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  Speaker 1: too little is known about these individuals at this point
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  Speaker 1: to confirm necessary facts. Some may be witnesses to abuse
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  Speaker 1: but not survivors of it. Others may be facilitators of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's abuse, and some may be both survivor and facilitator.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation continues with a focus on positively identifying and
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  Speaker 1: questioning these witnesses. Reports of confirmed survivors are here to
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  Speaker 1: extend possible and they are as follows. Jane number one.
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  Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, the FBI interviewed Jane do One,
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  Speaker 1: who recounted interaction she had with Epstein and Maxwell in
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  Speaker 1: New York and on Zoro Ranch in nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: The interview was conducted in connection with the Southern District
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  Speaker 1: of Florida investigation of Epstein. The report of this interview records,
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  Speaker 1: in part as follows. Epstein purchased Darafare from Phoenix to
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  Speaker 1: New York, Jane Doe flu to New York and stayed
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  Speaker 1: with her sister in the West Village. Jane Doe, Anderson
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  Speaker 1: and met Epstein at his residence, where he offered them
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  Speaker 1: a bottle of champagne. Epstein took them to see Phantom
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  Speaker 1: of the Opera and on the way offered more champagne.
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  Speaker 1: At a later time, Epstein took them to see a movie.
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  Speaker 1: During the movie, Epstein held and caressed her hand, which
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  Speaker 1: made her feel uncomfortable. Later, Epstein or Maxwell purchased an
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  Speaker 1: airline ticket for her to fly to Santa Fe. When
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  Speaker 1: she arrived in Santa Fe, the Zoro ranch manager picked
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  Speaker 1: her up. When she arrived at the ranch, there was
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  Speaker 1: some discussion about where she was going to stay on
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  Speaker 1: the property, and Epstein made it clear that she'd be
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  Speaker 1: staying with them. She was the only guest at the ranch.
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  Speaker 1: During her visit. Epstein and Maxwell took her to town
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  Speaker 1: for some shopping. During the evening, Epstein asked if she
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  Speaker 1: would provide him with a foot massage. Maxwell gave a demonstration.
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  Speaker 1: Jane Doe then gave Epstein a foot massage. Maxwell later
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  Speaker 1: asked Jane Doe to undress so that Maxwell could give
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  Speaker 1: her a massage. Jane Doe removed her clothing, leaving only
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  Speaker 1: her underwear on. Max completed the massage by rubbing her
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  Speaker 1: up her body, including her breast. The next morning, Epstein
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  Speaker 1: came into Jane Doe's room and got into bed with
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  Speaker 1: her under the covers. They were both dressed. They later
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  Speaker 1: went to a movie, during which Epstein stroked and caressed
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  Speaker 1: her hand and put his hand on Jane Doe's thigh.
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  Speaker 1: Later that night, Epstein came into Jane Doe's room, sat
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  Speaker 1: on her bed, stroked Jane Doe's hair, and told her
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  Speaker 1: how beautiful she was. The indictment in the United States
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  Speaker 1: first Glene Maxwell in the United States District Court of
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  Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York alleged defense conduct occurring
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  Speaker 1: on Zoro Ranch and involving a minor designated as Minor
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  Speaker 1: Victim number two. It's understood that minor victim number two
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  Speaker 1: is Jane do One, and the indictment alleges as follows.
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell interacted with minor victim number two on at least
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  Speaker 1: one occasion in or about nineteen ninety six at Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: residence in New Mexico, when Minor Victim two was under
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  Speaker 1: the age of eighteen. Minor Victim number two had sl
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  Speaker 1: into New Mexico from out of state at Epstein's invitation
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  Speaker 1: for the purpose of being groomed and or subjected to
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  Speaker 1: acts of sexual abuse. Maxwell knew that Minor Victim two
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  Speaker 1: was under the age of eighteen at the time. While
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  Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Maxwell and Epstein took Minor two to
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  Speaker 1: a movie and Maxwell took Minor two shopping. Maxwell also
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  Speaker 1: discussed Minor two school classes and family with Minor Victim two.
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  Speaker 1: In New Mexico, Maxwell began her efforts to groom Minor
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  Speaker 1: Victim two for abuse by Epstein by, among other things,
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  Speaker 1: providing an unsolicited massage to Minor Victim number two, during
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  Speaker 1: which Minor Victim two was topless. Maxwell also encouraged Minor
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  Speaker 1: Victim two to massage Epstein. These allegations are repeated in
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  Speaker 1: the superseding indictment returned in sdny's prosecution of Maxwell. The
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell detention memorandum also alluded to Jane Do One's abuse,
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  Speaker 1: stating that the abuse occurred at Epstein's properties in New York,
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  Speaker 1: Florida and New Mexico. Jane don number one, who appeared
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  Speaker 1: at Epstein's bell hearing testifying that Epstein at Flooner to
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  Speaker 1: New Mexico and was inappropriate with her. Jane do number
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  Speaker 1: two Jane Do two was a massage therapist who was
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  Speaker 1: interviewed in connection with the SDN wise Epstein investigation. She
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  Speaker 1: has spoken to the FBI to the media about her
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  Speaker 1: interactions with Epstein and Maxwell on Zoro Ranch. Jane Do
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  Speaker 1: two reported to the FBI that she started going to
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  Speaker 1: the ranch as a professional massage therapist in ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: She became friends with Zoro Ranch house manager. She went
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  Speaker 1: to Zoro Ranch for three years. Epstein came to the
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  Speaker 1: ranch approximately three to four times a year. Jane Do
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  Speaker 1: two massaged Maxwell, Epstein, and a younger woman who looked
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  Speaker 1: like models. Someone at the ranch was a previous massage therapist.
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  Speaker 1: Approximately two years after she started going to the ranch,
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  Speaker 1: Jane Do two was given a non disclosure agreement, but
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  Speaker 1: she did not sign it and stopped going to the
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  Speaker 1: ranch shortly thereafter. She remembered reading an article in Vanity
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  Speaker 1: Fair in two thousand and three about Epstein and remember thinking,
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  Speaker 1: holy shit, this is Jeffrey. She stopped going to the
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  Speaker 1: ranch prior to this article being published. Jane Do two
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  Speaker 1: remembered the layout of the main residence and remembered pictures
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  Speaker 1: of women with their breasts exposed. She spent most of
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  Speaker 1: her time there in the massage room, and also massaged
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  Speaker 1: a girl in the spare bedroom. She also massaged Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell once in their bedroom and once in their
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  Speaker 1: expensive bathroom. She recalls massaging Epstein approximately fifteen times, Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: approximately five times, and guests approximately five times. She recalled
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  Speaker 1: massaging three girls and two older men. One of the
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  Speaker 1: girls had a British accent and one of the men
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  Speaker 1: was a physicist. The massages turned sexual with Epstein. She
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  Speaker 1: recalls she received payment by check with the name of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's corporation on it. She knew of a reflexologist who
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  Speaker 1: went to the ranch. Maxwell told her, if you have
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  Speaker 1: any more friends who want to come out, they have
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  Speaker 1: to be good looking, pretty young. No Harry Pitts. One
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  Speaker 1: girl was brought to the ranch. Her name was redacted,
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  Speaker 1: as was her age. The girl said ew and never
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go back. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap
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  Speaker 1: up this episode right here, and in the next episode
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  Speaker 1: dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
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  Speaker 1: can be found in the description box,