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Episode 11: THE LIES - What's in the Vaccine? · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_00: What I have found is that there's lies and corruption happening on all fronts.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, imagine that, Joel, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm researching into the government's involvement and big um pharma, big vaccine companies, and I found corruption, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Go figure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that's that's so that's so unusual at the government level.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just very unusual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi everybody, I'm Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena McKella.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for joining me on Beyond Labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today, Joel and I have a special treat.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have put together a three-part series called The COVID Lies.
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  SPEAKER_00: This series was recorded for all people, not just unvaccinated people.
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  SPEAKER_00: For Joel and I, this series is about exercising informed consent and finding solutions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're trying to decide if you should get the vaccine because your job's mandating it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you already got the vaccine, but you want to know how to detox from it, or maybe you had a reaction and you want to know why.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're wondering if you should allow your child to get vaccinated.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you're seeking medical or religious exemption and you need to know more information about what's in the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: No matter your vaccination status or preference, we believe it's important to know what's in the vaccine and the politics around it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So without further ado, welcome to the COVID Lies.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another episode of Beyond Labels, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for uh your interest in these um in these issues that Cena and I discuss.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, of course, my uh collaborator here in this effort is Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cena McCullough, co-author of the book Beyond Labels and Master Researcher.
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  SPEAKER_01: In fact, she's been at it again um and digging into some of these nuances of the COVID vaccine and uh ramifications of it, both culturally and personally.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so um this podcast is going to be dominated by what she's finding, with me probably uh trying to egg her on with a few leading questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but that's that's my role here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so again, thank you for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's jump right into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cena, what have you found here lately?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, thanks, Joel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what I have found has been so upsetting to me that um I've hardly slept in a couple of days.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been up since three.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, needless to say, I am very excited to um relay this information to the public, kind of release it so that I can move on and go back to investigating the food supply.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like investigating the food supply has been a walk in the park compared to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so this started, of course, with um a mandate coming from my comp my husband's company that he works for, um, that he needed to be vaccinated or pretty much is going to lose his job.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then as I watched this narrative unfold, um, I started to have questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things didn't make sense, things did not add up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And since we've started this podcast, many people have asked, um, you know, they've sent in questions for us to address.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've asked things like, what's in the vaccine?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there corruption behind it?
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  SPEAKER_00: What did the CDC actually change the data?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, why is this even happening?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I started with that first question of what's in the vaccine?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you would think that would be a straightforward answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I have found, and I'd like to cover this um in today's podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: What I have found is that there's lies in corruption happening on all fronts.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, imagine that, Joel, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm researching into the government's involvement and big um pharma, big vaccine companies, and I found corruption, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, go figure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that's that's so that's so unusual at the governmental level, you know, it's just very unusual.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I have found it at the level of the CDC, the FDA, um, you know, particularly um NIH, Fauci himself, the scientific level, the pharmaceutical vaccine level, and the media level.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking all avenues here, um, that we we're being fed lies.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's so damaging to our nation because we're being forced into a situation um by these players that's really, in my opinion, not only unconstitutional, but it undermines the basic freedom of being a citizen in America, that you no longer have sovereignty over your own body.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have control about what goes into your body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if they can force you to be injected with the COVID, um, you know, with the COVID jab, then what else can they do to you?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want to start with this.
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  SPEAKER_00: This episode isn't just for people who don't want to get vaccinated with you know this COVID supposed vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is also for anybody who wants to be vaccinated or has been vaccinated and want and wants to know what's in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joel and I are both proponents of informed consent, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what we promote in the food supply that you can eat whatever you want to eat, just do it with informed consent.
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  SPEAKER_00: And right now, um, because of all these lies and cover-ups and data manipulation, they're really making it difficult for us to have informed consent.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, my opinion is you have every right to go get the COVID vaccine if you want to do it, but at least be informed about that decision.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I want to try to help inform people with what I have found so far.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will tell you up front that we still don't know what's in the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you some ingredients that we know are in there, and then we can discuss some things that may or may not be in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we do know that at this point, about 66% of Americans have received at least one dose of a COVID vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means about a third of us have not received any vaccination at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're not alone, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Although they want to marginalize us and make us feel that we are alone and that we are murdering people, we are not alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Roughly a third of Americans haven't received a vaccine at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you start to wonder why.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why are people so hesitant, at least a third of us so hesitant to get this vaccine?
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  SPEAKER_00: So um I want to start, I'll start actually with what's in the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is gonna this is gonna lead you to um questioning the level of corruption that's that's happening at this point.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we know that um aborted fetal cells are associated with all three of the COVID vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_00: We also know that the manufacturers of these vaccines have tried to cover up this fact.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for instance, there's a Pfizer whistleblower who came out and leaked documents, internal company documents.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, these were emails that admit that there were aborted human cells used in the development of the mRNA vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this was um, this is a quote from the VP and chief scientific officer at Pfizer.
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  SPEAKER_00: He said, um, so HEC 293T cells, uh, those are human aborted kidney fetal cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were used for the IVE study, are ultimately derived from an aborted fetus.
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  SPEAKER_00: On the other hand, the Vatican um doctrinal committee has confirmed that they consider it acceptable for pro-life believers to be immunized.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they have omitted it in these um emails, and then it gets worse.
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  SPEAKER_00: They go on to say this.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was the full email, and then I'm going to tell you which part they are not allowing their uh media people to say, to basically reveal to the public.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the statement says human fetal-derived cell lines are not used to produce our investigational vaccine, which consists of synthetic and enzymatically produced components.
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  SPEAKER_00: One or more cell lines with an origin that can be traced back to human fetal tissue has been used in laboratory tests associated with the vaccine program.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's their full statement.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first sentence where it says the human fetal cell lines are not used to produce this vaccine, that's the approved statement.
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  SPEAKER_00: So whenever media, you know, someone like a media inquired, were there aborted fetal cells used, you know, to make these vaccines, the approved Pfizer statement was that no, they're not used.
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  SPEAKER_00: In that same email, the very next sentence says it's highlighted in yellow, and it says, okay, but one or more cell lines with an origin that traces back to these fetal tissues was used, but you cannot say that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the person who received the email said, Well, let me get this clear.
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  SPEAKER_00: You want me to state the yellow highlighted section?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you want me to release that information?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they email back, no, do not send out that information.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, so they are blatantly trying to mislead the public um and let and tell us that there's no abortive fetal cells used in the development of the mRNA vaccines, but there was.
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  SPEAKER_01: And actually uh Cena, I got a I got a question on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um is are those completely contradictory statements, or is that some sort of a is that some sort of a clever speak?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it a is it a clever speak?
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  SPEAKER_01: We didn't use it to produce it, uh, but we we used it to originate it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're parsing, for example, the difference between production and origination.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that literally what what this is?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so what they're saying is it's not used to produce it, but it is used to test the efficacy of the vaccine and to develop the um the technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what they're trying to say is they're distancing from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That, well, it wasn't technically used to produce this exact vaccine, um, but it was used in the development of the technology and used to test the efficacy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, there, and if you're not really paying attention to the exact wording and you don't you don't understand the involvement, how these fetal cells are involved in the technology, you would believe the statement, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Especially when they come and say, Oh, the Pope has said it's okay, and all these other religious institutions are saying it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so but it gets worse.
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  SPEAKER_00: So not only, so the Pfizer vaccine used the human embryonic kidney cells, the Moderna vaccine also used those human embryonic kidney cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you look in the patent for um the Moderna, Moderna um mRNA vaccine technology, it also says that they can use um the Gila stem cell line.
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  SPEAKER_00: That stem cell line came from a woman who had cervical cancer.
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  SPEAKER_00: That stem cell line is known as the immortal stem cell line because it divides and grows like out of control, like exponentially.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they use they can use that in the development of this technology, this mRNA technology, and they can also use it as part of the delivery system.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, so they've used two different stem cell lines, one from cancer, a type of cancer, and one from the um aborted kidney cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the Johnson Johnson or from Jansen pharmaceuticals, that vaccine, that one did require the use of fetal cell cultures.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's specifically um the culture that was used is called PERC6.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a retinal cell line isolated from an aborted fetus.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they directly use that fetal cell culture in order to produce and manufacture the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, this I had known that already.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like this whistleblower just recently came out and revealed these internal Pfizer documents.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had already known that fetal cells were used because I found these um government health documents back.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was in April of this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: One's from North Dakota, one's from Los Angeles County.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's titled COVID-19 vaccines and fetal cell lines.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's right there in black and white.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're both um saying that they've used cell lines either directly or to develop the technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're saying that these um, you know, the Catholic bishops and other religious groups are saying that it's ethical.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me give you the one quote.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is from the Secretariat of Pro-Life Activities, which is a committee within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
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  SPEAKER_00: That um group said, quote, neither Pfizer nor Moderna used an abortion-derived cell line in the development or production of the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: However, such a cell line was used to test the efficacy of both vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thus, while neither vaccine is completely free from any use of abortion-derived cell lines, in these two cases, the use is very remote from the initial evil of the abortion.
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  SPEAKER_00: One may receive any of the clinically recommended vaccines in good conscience with the assurance that reception of such vaccines does not involve immoral cooperation in abortion.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they know and they're admitting it, and they're telling you to go do it anyway, that it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So basically, this was the first lie that I stumbled upon.
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  SPEAKER_00: When just trying to figure out what is actually in these vaccines, right, and how they're made.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is part of having informed consent, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's many of us, uh, many people, and Joel, as you can attest to this, are adamantly opposed to abortion.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, look at the Texas law that just recently passed, and we don't want to have anything to do with abortive fetuses, and we certainly don't want to have anything to do with injecting um chemicals in our body that have any relation to um the abortive fetal cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for instance, with the Johnson ⁇ Johnson vaccine, you have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like when you look into how these make how they make these vaccines, they use the abortive fetal cell lines to make that COVID vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, how do you know that it's totally clear and pure purified of any of those cells or any of the components that were in those cells?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: You have no idea, and they don't know either.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's the science isn't um to that sophistication level where we can actually say that there are no cell remnants from those abortive fetal cells in those, um, in the Johnson ⁇ Johnson vaccine for for instance.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: So so okay, so that's my first the first thing I looked into.
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  SPEAKER_01: Could could they not, could they not have uh would it have been impossible to um you know to whatever develop these and test them without is there anything else they can use besides aborted you know fetal tissue?
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  SPEAKER_00: They can.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean if it's i if if it's dead tissue, why couldn't they use a a cadaver, for example?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um what's the if it if it's a if it's if it's dead, if it's dead human tissue anyway, why does it have to be from abortion?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't it be from a from a stillbirth or from you see where I'm going?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh um why does it have to be an aborted fetus?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it could be from um a stillbirth, you know, depending on how uh how quickly you um capture the sample, you know, at a death.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: So so so the point is that it has to be immediate.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um it it it the tissue can't have been dead for 24 hours.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: It has to be it has to be immediate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you want cells, okay.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: So let's back up one second.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are other vaccines that are already given to our children, for instance, like on the vaccine schedule, the CDC schedule, that contain um aborted fetal cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is not the first time that this has been done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, there are other vaccines that can contain these aborted fetal cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and one reason to use um human tissue is because um it's more comparable to what you're you're gonna inject it into a human, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so these viruses, for instance, like when you're trying to grow the vaccine, you have to grow it on a medium.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's gonna uh it's gonna grow better in a human um tissue sample.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the um the the fetuses, right, babies and stuff have have um in in theory, they have more ability to have stem cells, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that you can keep dividing the cell line.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so they can use other cell lines, and they have in other vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um but this one, you can have if you use those uh aborted cells, you have um uh a greater efficacy, is what they say.
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  SPEAKER_00: A greater efficacy of the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: It reproduces um better.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: And these cell lines, um, I should say that these cell lines are from aborted fetuses that were in the 1960s and the 1970s.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: So they can keep these cell lines, right?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: And they can they um they can use them multiple times.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like you get one aborted fetus and then you use the cells there and then and then you need another aborted fetus.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've um these these are called historic fetal cell lines.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were from, we believe, two elective abortions.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and as I said, they've been used for creating vaccines for other diseases like hepatitis A, rubella, and and rabies.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So um, so yes, you can use other ones, but um they prefer to use them, these human cell lines, because um, here let me quote it directly from the government.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Viruses need cells to grow, and the viruses tend to grow better in cells from the humans than the animals because they infect the humans.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, same thing I said.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: The fetal cells can be used longer than other cell types, just like I said, and they can be maintained at lower temperatures, um, which means they can use cell lines from decades ago.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: So, and they're claiming the vaccines themselves do not contain any abortive fetal cells.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said, we don't know.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Making these vaccines is actually a messy process, which we'll get into as well.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can put a link in the description of um a list of vaccines that were derived from uh that used abortive derived cells, if that helps anybody.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: But this is one reason why there uh we fight for religious exemption to vaccines, um, is because um there are aborted fetal cell lines used in multiple in various different vaccines, and all three of these COVID vaccines, as I have just shown you, are connected with aborted fetal cells.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, are we good?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: You ready for the next point?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: All right, okay, so that was the first one.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And um again, we saw there our first lie by the pharmaceutical companies, right?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Trying to hide this from the public.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the next thing I want to say is when you're trying to figure out what ingredients are in a vaccine, there are these fact sheets that the FDA posts on their website.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so if you want to get these, um, and they're on the CDC website is too, all website too.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'll put links to these in the description so you can read them for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's called fact sheet for recipients and caregivers.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: So now this is of course what the government wants you to know about the vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is just a starting point, and then you have to um check that, right?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because as I'm gonna show you, there's um there's there's deception at best and lying at worst.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: So this says on here read this fact sheet for information about the COVID vaccine and talk to the vaccination uh provider if you have questions.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's your Your choice to receive this COVID vaccine.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: So what I wanted to point out first and foremost is this sentence.
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  SPEAKER_00: What should you mention to your vaccination provider before you get the COVID vaccine?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: What should you mention?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So this to me is following in line with the FDA's stance on our food supply.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, in our book, I shared that the FDA thinks it's the responsibility of the people to ensure the safety of the food, right?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: In contrast to their mission statement.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I agree, it's the responsibility of the people.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And what they're saying in this government document is that it's your responsibility to mention these things to the vaccine provider before you get the vaccine.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: And this is not well known in our culture, at least I don't think so.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: People are not taking responsibility for learning, for teaching themselves, just like we we tell people teach yourself what's in that food before you eat it.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: We're not teaching ourselves what's in the vaccines before we allow ourselves to be injected with them.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: And now they've just approved the FDA just approved uh emergency authorization for the vaccine in children uh five to 11 years old.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: So before I strongly encourage parents, even if you've already had the vaccine, listen to this podcast, learn what's in it before you give it to your children, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That is our responsibility.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I will say that I'm not here to point fingers at anybody.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: I never used to read the ingredient labels either in the vaccines.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: I blindly trusted the pediatrician, just like I blindly trusted the food supply.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: And as you know, I almost died from trusting the food supply.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: And my eldest son was actually vaccine damaged because I trusted the pediatrician and the FDA and the CDC, and I didn't look into it for myself.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's point number one on this government document is they're telling you to take responsibility.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now I'm gonna go on to show you how it's difficult to take responsibility.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there's a fact sheet I'm gonna post for each of the three vaccines: the Moderna, the Pfizer, and the Janssen, which is from Johnson Johnson.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: I want to quickly go through a few of the ingredients here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This one says, what are the ingredients in the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: And this, of course, is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: So it says it includes um recombinant replication, incompetent, adenovirus type 26 expressing the SARS COVID-2 spike protein.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: So this is the DNA component of the um of the what we think is the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, right?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: So they have the double-stranded DNA in there.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: They encapsulate it into like a virus shell, right?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: There's um there's also citric acid in it and um trisodium citrate dihydrate.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's HBCD, which is two hydroxypropyl, beta, cyclodextrin, there's sodium chloride, and there's polysorbid 80, and there's ethanol.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: So this these are the ingredients that they're willing to tell us are in this vaccine.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Now that I've listed those ingredients, Joel, how many of those are you familiar with?
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can you tell me where what those ingredients do or where they're derived from?
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I was trying to write them as you were saying them, and uh uh I'm I'm a pretty good speller, uh, but uh, you know, I'm not sure I got them spelled right.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, I I've heard of citric acid.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but usually, you know, when these things, you know, uh ethanol, yeah, you know, that's something you put in your gas tank, right?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: In your car.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um anyway, uh, no, Cena, I'm uh I I admit I admit defeat here.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't uh I don't know what all those are.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I I have a I have a sneaking suspicion that they are not very um uh normal in our bodies.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's that that's my sneaking suspicion.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you're right, yes, these are synthetic.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: So um let me just give you a couple examples of things that I started to look into that I thought were concerning.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: One and one is going to be a potential allergen that nobody is talking about.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the first I want to start with polysorbate 80.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: This is a surfactant.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that like it's a detergent, it's used sometimes as an adjuvant or a solubilizer or stabilizer, um, things like that in these vaccines.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but it's a detergent, it has been implicated in systemic and injection site events, meaning like these adverse events.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: And if you look in the scientific literature, in 2018, uh the journal Advances in Therapy said this.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: This was the quote from them.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Recent data have indicated that polysorbate 80 is a biologically and possibly pharmacologically active compound and consequently may alter the pharmacologic properties of the drug it's formulated with, or may itself directly mediate adverse events.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that means the polysorbate 80 alone could be causing some of these um adverse events that we're finding um are occurring in um in vaccine recipients.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: It also could change the um the therapeutic effect of the the parent drug, so of this recombinant um you know DNA uh that's in this Jansen vaccine.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and again, it's uh synthetic.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what one thing that was alarming to me though is you don't hear people talking about um, you know, like it for the flu vaccine, for instance.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: It came out that if you're allergic to eggs, you weren't able to have one of the flu vaccines, right?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this one, no one's talking about this that I know of.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: But if you are sensitive to corn, which means anyone who has like non-ciliac gluten sensitivity, you know, celiac disease, gluten intolerance, any of those things, this is very alarming for that population.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: And as you and I have discussed, at least 30% of the population does have a sensitivity to grains, which includes corn.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: So there is, there are corn-derived ingredients in this vaccine, including the ethanol.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: And you know that it's probably not derived from organic corn, right?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is probably derived from GML corn sprayed with glyphosate.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: And this may be one reason why in other vaccines that have been independently tested, we have found glyphosate in other vaccines.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: I believe one of them was in the flu vaccine.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Not every sample, but we this glyphosate is showing up in some vaccines as a contaminant.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: And this is very alarming for a number of reasons.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: But even um, I don't know if you remember this, Joel, but when Monsanto was really under fire for glyphosate, uh, there was one of like the lead scientists or the lead toxicologists was on TV and she was saying that glyphosate, as long as it was ingested orally, was not a problem.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: The problem was if it was injected into the body, right?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now we know it's being injected into the body in some of these vaccines.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't tell you the with any degree of certainty if glyphosate is in any of these vaccines.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: All I'm saying is we've seen it enter the vaccines before.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: And this corn, these corn-derived ingredients are probably derived from GMO corn containing glyphosate.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you can theoretically see an avenue for a way that glyphosate could get into the vaccine.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I have friends who are in support groups because they have severe corn allergies, or their children do.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what tipped me off onto this that they were getting the adults with these allergies were getting the vaccination.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: And they were having severe, severe side effects.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like throwing up blood all night, really bad reactions to it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so they are the ones that called, uh, that found out that um, in their opinion, there's three ingredients in here the ethanol, the citric acid, and the polysorbate 80 that were all derived from corn.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I called Janssen, you know, who produces this vaccine, and I asked them to verify do these ingredients come from corn?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: And the woman I spoke with said she can verify that ethanol came from corn and citric acid and the polysorbate 80, she did not have any information on it.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: However, when my friend from that group called, that representative from the company did confirm that those that the citric acid and the polysorbate 80 were also derived from corn.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, even getting calling the company and trying to get information is kind of up in the air.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: But what she did tell me was not only was the corn uh ethanol derived from corn, but she said on their fact sheet, there's that they always have common, it's called common allergens table.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and for this Jansen COVID vaccine, under the common allergens table, it lists corn, maize, and coca.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it lists it as an allergen, but they're not actually telling the public that this is an allergen against these vaccines, this this Jansen vaccine.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: And in fact, um the CDC is going to great efforts to make it so that nobody qualifies for a medical exemption.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: And we can get into that in a moment, too.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: But they are trying to back us into a corner that um you can't get an exemption even if you've had a reaction to other um vaccines in the past.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so that's just kind of my high-level review of ingredients that are in this um Jansen vaccine.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll point out you know, Cena, the interesting thing here, uh it's interesting that that you know, it Monsanto in the initial uh uh you know in some of their court hearings has said that it glyphosate is not that damaging if you ingest it.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's only if you inject it.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: The difference between ingestion and injection, um, boy, that's a that those those are two easy ones to uh flip around, aren't they?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and the thought that the thought that strikes me is you know, when you in now, you know, I don't agree, I don't agree that it's safe even if you ingest it.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean the uh but but let let's posit that the fact is that your body has numerous um what defense mechanisms on stuff that we ingest, uh you know, saliva and the whole microbiome, the back in your mouth and all this.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's why kids can eat dirt, and you know, and they're and we want them to eat some dirt, right?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah um, so so you know, uh if we didn't have that, every baby that uh that sees was as you know a baby they they see with their fingers, right?
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, every they touch everything and it goes in their mouth, goes in their mouth.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: So we have we have some amazing, our body has has amazing defensive mechanisms um from stuff that we ingest, but we don't have those kind of mechanisms for something that we inject.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the difference between injection and ingestion is uh really profound.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: And and so so uh what even if we posit the idea, well, yeah, you can have defenses against it if you if you eat it, um we don't have we don't have those defenses if we inject it.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: And and and and even even very minor, minor uh components injected would not go through any defensive mechanism on their way into the bloodstream.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: So even tiny amounts can have a much bigger effect when it's injected, as opposed to when it goes over the teeth, through the gums, down the throat, you know, and and and into the the uh acidic stomach and you know, and all those kinds of things.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we think that roughly 80% of your immune system lies in your gastrointestinal tract.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: And exactly what you're saying, that is intentionally designed that way to protect us from what the body deems to be these foreign invaders.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: And you absolutely bypass that when you inject something into your body, which is all the more reason to exercise informed consent.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: Again, get the vaccine if you want.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: That is not my place to judge that, but have this informed consent.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of um contaminants, like you brought up, how it only takes a small amount.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: We know that certain that lots of this vaccine, different lots, have been um pooled, um halted, and you know, they've stopped administering some of these lots because of contamination.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: So we know that in Japan there's a contamination issue with the Menderna vaccine.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: They halted the use of over 1.6 million doses.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: They found things like black substances and pink materials inside the um some of the injection vials.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and that's not the only incident.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: How does that how does that happen?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, aren't these aren't these done in an incredibly uh well, I I guess if I get I guess if uh if a gun on a on a stage show that's supposed to have a blank in it can have a project, can have a live ammunition, a la Alex Alec Baldwin.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, I suppose contamination can get into a a capsule uh a vaccine, a vial as well, huh?
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so some of this is inevitably going to be from production, you know, and um some of it could be because we don't really know what's in it.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: So um so we're calling anything that's not listed on these fact sheets would would, in my opinion, technically be considered a contaminant.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: So for instance, there was the um AstraZeneca um vaccine.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um a German study showed it to have um over a thousand different foreign proteins in it.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: A thousand.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, and that's not, I mean, they didn't test every single vaccine while, of course, they tested a certain amount of them and found all these foreign proteins in them.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: And this is not something to just be like, oh, it's a one-off, you know, or that's not that serious, you know, the body's made up of proteins.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: But the problem is this um, not only the obvious problem that we've like you've brought up, we've bypassed the gastrointestinal tract and that line of defense that we have.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: But when people develop things like food sensitivities, you are largely reacting to proteins that are in the foods, right?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's those proteins that have leaked into um the bloodstream through the through from the gastrointestinal tract, through the interstitium, into the bloodstream, and it elicits um an immune response and can lead to food sensitivities and longer-term food allergies.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that's from the proteins that are in the food.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: And now this study is showing um, you know, hundreds, if not a thousand foreign proteins that are found in this, that was found in the shot that was injected directly into the body.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: So you can only imagine the firestorm of inflammation that would ensue from that kind of attack on the immune system.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: But but yeah, so so there are these contaminants.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: And also, um, I'll put a link to this, but one thing that um I wasn't planning on talking about this today, but since you brought it up, um, one one interesting thing that I found was that there was a law passed um by Congress under the Obiden administration, and it was about this kind of emergency use authoration authorization.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it said that um you didn't have to have the ingredients tested.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: So, under this emergency use authorization, the whatever is in that vial of the vaccine doesn't actually have to go through testing to determine that what's in it is what you're saying is in it.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, and so we know that there was, for instance, with some of these um applications for emergency use authorization, there were like something like 13 different formulas, your formulations um that they applied for.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: So who knows?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: And three different types of mRNA, right?
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: We talk about this as though there's, oh, there's just one type of mRNA, and Moderna and Pfizer are both using that same mRNA.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we know there are at least three that were on the application um to the FDA for emergency use authorization.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: So which one are they using and which formulation are they using?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we um who knows?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: I have not been able to figure that out yet.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so anyhow, yes, these are the different ways in which contaminants can get into the process.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I said, it's not as strictly regulated as we we would hope that it would be.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so those are those are some of the contaminants.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let me quickly just um point out just a couple quick things from the Moderna and the Pfizer um fact sheet from the government in terms of their ingredients.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, and then maybe what we could do is um is take a quick break.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because I know I'm just pouring on a lot of info here.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so for instance, in the Moderna fact sheet, and this is the um fact sheet for recipients and caregivers for the Moderna um vaccine, it says for their ingredient list, um, it's the messenger um ribal nucleic acid, the messenger RNA.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Again, there so there are 12 formulations um used under the Mercy Use Authorization Act with the three different mRNA formulations.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's four different types of lipids that are in it.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: SM-102, polyethylene glycol, um 2000 dimeristol glycerol and um cholesterol, and 12 diaryl SN glycerol 3 phosphocholine.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's a mouthful.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: So these are the four lipids that are used to make the nanoparticle that people are hearing a lot about.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it has this nanoparticle that contains this mRNA to try to protect protect it.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: The mRNA is very unstable.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, breaks down very quickly.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so they have to protect it uh in this nanoparticle.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: So, of concern as a scientist, a nanoparticle it allows for better penetration into cells, right?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: So these were engineered to bind to different cells, like on the GI tract, the genitals, the respiratory system, you name it.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and they can be formulated.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: This was in actually Moderna's patent.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: These nanoparticles can be formulated for sustained release.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: It could be a day, a week, a month, a year.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they have a patent that allows them to the technology, uh the spell spells out the technology to allow for sustained release.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know which one this falls into that's not been um told to the American public.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if they use that sustained release technology or not, but it's it is in the patent for this mRNA technology.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this one also contains um tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, which um is also from corn, okay, just like Jansen and Jansen, uh just like the Janssen vaccine, the Johnson and Johnson one, this one has acetic acid from corn, sodium acetate, trihydrate, and sucrose.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, one ingredient I want to point out is the polyethylene glycol.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is a major ingredient in antifreeze, and it's estimated that about 70% of people will react to it because it's so prevalent in cosmetics and other areas of our lives.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so 70% of people are estimated to react to just that one component in that vaccine.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: And this may be um, I neglected to mention, we're seeing an unprecedented, unprecedented level of adverse events being reported from these COVID vaccines.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want to interject that here because it's like, well, how big of a deal is this, right?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if not that many people are having reactions to it, well, here's the problem we have this um what we call VERS.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: The vaccine um adverse uh reporting event system.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: So VARES is supposed to keep it's a FDA and it's kind of CDC um monitored uh database.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And when there is an adverse event that happens to it with the with the vaccine, it's supposed to be reported.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we know that already that adverse events are seriously underreported.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: A Harvard study said that probably about 1% or less of adverse events are actually reported.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we already know that there's many more adverse events that never get reported.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: So for instance, my son's vaccine injury never made it into the VARES database.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um here's a stat that if it's not alarming, I'm not sure what I can say to you that would alarm you.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: For all, we have roughly 70 vaccines in use at this point.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: So for all of the vaccines collectively, there's around 16,000 adverse events reported a year in the VAR system.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so for all 70 vaccines taken together, every year there's about 16,000 adverse events reported.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: And again, these are underreported.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: As of um September of this year, after only 10 months of COVID vaccine rollout, the CDC reports that there had been almost 727,000 reports of COVID post-inoculation adverse events.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: So 16,000 total adverse events per year for all 70 vaccines combined versus 10 months of COVID vaccine.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: And we have almost 727,000 reports.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, over 15,000 of those adverse events that were reported were death.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: So over 15,000 deaths.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: 5,000, over 5,000 of those deaths happened within 48 hours of getting the injection.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: There were over 20,000 people who were permanently disabled.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: There were 66,000 or more, there were more than 66,000 hospitalizations.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: And during that same period of time, that was about a quarter of all the COVID hospitalizations.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, in about half the amount of time, that was a quarter of all the COVID hospitalizations.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: There were over 7,000 heart attacks.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: There were over 9,000 incidents of Bell's palsy, paralysis.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just in the first 10 months.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: As of October 1st, there's now been 16,310 deaths reported as an adverse event from a COVID injection.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: So this is um this is unprecedented.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Unprecedented.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: Before, when there were deaths associated with drugs, if the deaths got up to about 50, the drug was pulled from the market.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: You would stop it.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: So now we're over 16,000 deaths, and these are confirmed deaths.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: So the CDC goes through this VARS database and they investigate them and they leave the ones on there that they confirm were actually associated with the vaccine.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: So these are CDC confirmed deaths of over 16,000, right?
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yet we're yet we're deemed um we're we're being pushed into getting this vaccine.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: And they know that this is happening.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: They know all these people are dying, and now they're getting want to give it to our children.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, this is this is one reason, Cena, why uh historically, I mean, we can we can uh um argue vaccine, non-vaccine until the cows come home, but historically vaccines had like a you know a four or five year uh rollout.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: And and um yeah, this is the tension between um between the the right to try uh versus you know the actual right to sell, if you will.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: And and and I think I'm not trying to put anything on you here, but I I think you and I would agree that you know we believe in the right to choose and informed consent.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so if somebody wanted to try something that was uh kind of experimental and and even even a rush job, if you will.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we we would say yes, if if a person's you know got a two weeks to live and they want to try anything in the world, we think they should be able to to to join any kind of testing, any kind of thing that they want to try that.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: But there's a big difference between uh between being on death's death's door or or or for whatever reason, just wanting to try something experimental.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: There's a big difference between that and and actually having a uh a stamp of approval for ubiquitous rollout with within the culture, and then and then then of course the mandate is yet another.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you look at these three things, one one, do I have the right to choose an experiment?
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do uh then um when should it be uh kind of recently presumed as safe?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, maybe four or five years, okay.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well then when when uh when would mandate uh uh kick in, you know, way, way down the road.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh of course I don't I don't agree with mandates at all uh for for for anything, but but but the point is here we have uh uh a mandate on a rushed experiment that that that violates all three of those kinds of parameters.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's quite a it's it's quite an astounding thing.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and and this is why time um you know uh time is an important factor.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: It just is.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't just biology has its own time clock.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't it biology doesn't respond to assault immediately often, and it does it it certainly doesn't uh heal from assault immediately, very often.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, we say time time heals wounds, right?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, the time factor the the fact that we've taken the time factor out of this and turned the whole thing into a rush, um is itself a you know a red flag.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we saw informed consent should allow somebody to say, well, I'm not an anti vaxxer, but I I just I just want to see this operate.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Give me give me two more years of seeing what happens to everybody that's been vaccinated.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, uh what what's wrong with that?