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Ep. 528: Foundations - When the Land Buying Dream Turns Into a Nightmare · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt
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  Speaker 1: Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Life.
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  Speaker 1: This episode is all about the things that can go
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  Speaker 1: wrong when you're buying some hunting ground. Now, last week
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  Speaker 1: I talked about buying hunting land well, which is you know,
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  Speaker 1: honestly a dream for most of us. For some it
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  Speaker 1: will remain just that a dream, but for others it
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  Speaker 1: will become a reality. That's a huge life wind if
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  Speaker 1: you can pull it off. But it's also a big
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  Speaker 1: scary investment where a lot of things can go wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And to top it up some of the lofty expectations
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  Speaker 1: we have a I don't food plots, hitlist box and
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  Speaker 1: you know, finally not having to deal with other hunters.
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  Speaker 1: I can also go wrong in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 1: ways which you should be aware of before you buy.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm going to talk about right now.
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  Speaker 1: I've got two land buying stories to tell you about
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  Speaker 1: that are both cautionary tales. The first one involves yours
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  Speaker 1: truly and a small twenty nine acre mix a high
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  Speaker 1: and low ground located just a bit north of the
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  Speaker 1: Twin Cities. Now, Buddy and I bought that land after
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  Speaker 1: I saw homemade for sales sign in the ditch. The
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  Speaker 1: price was way too cheap, which should have been a
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  Speaker 1: red flag for us, so we did the responsible thing
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  Speaker 1: and hired a real estate lawyer to make sure we
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  Speaker 1: weren't making a huge mistake. The lawyer found out that
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  Speaker 1: the seller hadn't paid its property taxes in years, so
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  Speaker 1: the tax bill on the place was six teen grand.
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  Speaker 1: Had we just written the guy a check like he
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  Speaker 1: asked us to do and not gone through that process,
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  Speaker 1: I think we would have been on the hook for
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  Speaker 1: that money. But we were smart about it, mostly because
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  Speaker 1: my buddy had been burned before and that felt like
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  Speaker 1: we had dodged a big problem there, just because of
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  Speaker 1: his advice to hire that lawyer. So fast forward two
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  Speaker 1: years and we decided we wanted to put in a
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  Speaker 1: driveway so we would have a nice spot to park
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  Speaker 1: when we hunted out there. When I finally tracked down
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  Speaker 1: the right person at the Department of Transportation here in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: he informed me that the state had bought all roadside
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  Speaker 1: Eastman's on that highway in two thousand and three, way
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  Speaker 1: before we bought it, and for miles along that stretch
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  Speaker 1: of highway. In other words, we could park in the ditch,
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  Speaker 1: but we couldn't build even an earth and drive off
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  Speaker 1: of the highway. Our lawyer had missed that and had
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  Speaker 1: actually put it in writing that we had the ability
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  Speaker 1: to build in the land, including a driveway. The seller
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  Speaker 1: said as much too, but he never said anything about
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  Speaker 1: how he got paid off for that Eastman, and he
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  Speaker 1: was obviously full of shipped to begin with, because he
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  Speaker 1: lied to us about the taxes too. Anyway, when I
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  Speaker 1: called up the lawyer to see what our options were,
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  Speaker 1: I found out that he had had a major chess
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  Speaker 1: grabb or a few months earlier. He was no longer
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  Speaker 1: with us. We were, to put it bluntly, I guess
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  Speaker 1: ship out of luck. We still had legal access, although
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't ideal, and we could still hunt it. So
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  Speaker 1: my buddy and I sat on it for a few
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  Speaker 1: years until someone bought the land behind us. This fellow,
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  Speaker 1: after building a permanent stand on our land without permission,
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  Speaker 1: then casually mentioned when we confronted him about it, that
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to buy our property too. It actually worked
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  Speaker 1: out much better than we hoped, and we got out
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  Speaker 1: of it. Not only did we make some money, but
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  Speaker 1: we also no longer owned right next to the kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy who didn't really much respect property rights. That
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  Speaker 1: was a close one with a lot of stress in
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  Speaker 1: the details that I'm just leaving out, and it taught
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  Speaker 1: me a lot about covering all of your bases if
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  Speaker 1: you decide to buy, and how things can still go wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It was also a reminder of something you hear often
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  Speaker 1: when the topic of buying hunting land comes up, which
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  Speaker 1: is to vet your neighbors as well as you can.
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  Speaker 1: In our case, we couldn't vet a guy we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know was going to be our future neighbor. You know,
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  Speaker 1: land changes hands, people die, people move, Stuff happens, but
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  Speaker 1: at least you should be aware of who your neighbors
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  Speaker 1: are at the time you're considering buying land. Try to
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  Speaker 1: chat with every neighboring landowner you can, or at least
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  Speaker 1: every landowner in the neighborhood. If you have any connections
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  Speaker 1: with conservation officers in the area, it's not a bad
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  Speaker 1: idea to shoot them an email and ask if they've
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  Speaker 1: got any concern about the folks around there. They probably
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  Speaker 1: won't let you in on too many secrets for obvious reasons,
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  Speaker 1: but you might pick up a vibe that you're about
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  Speaker 1: to buy a deer ground right in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a group of outlaws. Now, if you do this, please
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  Speaker 1: be respectful of their time. This is pretty low on
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  Speaker 1: their priority list, but most eliots will find the time
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  Speaker 1: to help you with this. Now onto my second story.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to a buddy of mine. He bought a
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  Speaker 1: house on forty acres about ten years ago with the
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  Speaker 1: intention of creating a little deer in Turkey oasis that
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  Speaker 1: he and his boys could hunt. It was going pretty
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  Speaker 1: well for quite a few years too, with my buddy
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  Speaker 1: putting in food plots and planning apple trees and selectively
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  Speaker 1: logging all that good stuff. And even though his areas
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  Speaker 1: pretty hunted dense, he managed to keep enough dos around
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  Speaker 1: his place to always get a crack at a decent
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  Speaker 1: buck either while he was bow hunting while he was
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  Speaker 1: gun hunting his plan. In other words, I was going
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  Speaker 1: pretty well until his next door neighbors moved out and
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  Speaker 1: someone new moved in. The guy who moved into that
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  Speaker 1: ten acre parcel is the kind of guy whose identity
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  Speaker 1: is really tied into hunting and fishing. He flies the
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  Speaker 1: flag loud and proud, But as my buddy got to
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  Speaker 1: know him, he realized this dude was a poaching machine.
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  Speaker 1: Dear turkeys, ducks, fish, It didn't matter, and he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: shy about it either. And it turns out he had
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  Speaker 1: been on the radar of the d n R from
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  Speaker 1: past violations. Well, this dude decided it would be easier
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  Speaker 1: to shoot some deer over were illegal bait piles, then
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  Speaker 1: it would be to do things by the book, and
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  Speaker 1: my buddy agreed to let the authorities access advantage point
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  Speaker 1: on his land. In other words, he cooperated with the
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  Speaker 1: investigation on the promise of staying anonymous. Well, when that
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  Speaker 1: dude eventually got busted hunting over bait and for quite
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  Speaker 1: a few other violations, his timing could not have been better.
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  Speaker 1: It was all really getting to roll along, just as
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  Speaker 1: COVID shut the courts mostly down and created a big
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  Speaker 1: legal backlog. At the same time, someone at the state
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  Speaker 1: messed up and left my buddy's name on the documents
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  Speaker 1: that went to his neighbor's lawyer. As you can imagine,
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  Speaker 1: this didn't do much for their relationship. Fast forward like
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  Speaker 1: two years, and that guy got off on every charge
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  Speaker 1: except one that wasn't even related to hunting. He's back
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  Speaker 1: to his old ways, but also dead set on punishing
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  Speaker 1: my buddy. He built a shooting range right along the
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  Speaker 1: fence line, which he uses all season long during the
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  Speaker 1: last hour of shooting light to keep the deer from
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  Speaker 1: moving to my buddy. This is a nightmare. He worked hard,
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  Speaker 1: he bought the land, he tried to do the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: and then one unscrupulous asshole and our ranks changed it
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  Speaker 1: all for the worse things happened, my friends. And when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to property and big deer, some of those
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  Speaker 1: things can be really ugly. There's no guarantees neighbor wise,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't know who could move in. Generally, you
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  Speaker 1: can lessen the chances of dealing with these types of
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  Speaker 1: issues the fewer neighbors you have. Now, let's say you've
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  Speaker 1: got a theoretical on a forty acre chunk that borders
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  Speaker 1: a road to the south. I've got a landowner to
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  Speaker 1: the east, to the west, and to the north. That's
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  Speaker 1: three not so bad. Now take that same forty and
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  Speaker 1: put it in a denser population situation, and you might
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  Speaker 1: have people who own smaller chunks of land next to you.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of just three neighbors, several have ten to twenty
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  Speaker 1: acre parcels, and now you've got a lot more people
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  Speaker 1: to contend with. Maybe they are mostly good people who
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  Speaker 1: hunt or who don't hunt, but are just fine with it,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll be all right. But you know what they
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  Speaker 1: say about one bad apple spoiling the whole bunch. And
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  Speaker 1: this might sound crazy, but you can find an awful
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  Speaker 1: lot of information about people when you go to buy
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  Speaker 1: some land. What I do when I see a listing
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  Speaker 1: that is interesting to me is head on over to
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  Speaker 1: on X to find out who owns the land I'm
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  Speaker 1: interested in. A quick Google search on the name an
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  Speaker 1: address can tell you whether this is a property that
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  Speaker 1: was recently inherited, whether the landowner is behind on taxes,
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  Speaker 1: and a host of other stuff. You can also look
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  Speaker 1: up the neighbors to see what is going on there,
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  Speaker 1: at least as far as public records are concerned. This
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  Speaker 1: is a great way to get a feel for why
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  Speaker 1: the property might be selling and who your new neighbors
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  Speaker 1: might be. It's not enough, but it's a good start,
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  Speaker 1: and it's also possible just to scroll over on on
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  Speaker 1: X the land and all the neighboring landowners to see
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  Speaker 1: if maybe some of your neighbors have food plots, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they've got four wheel trails and obvious signs of hunting. Now,
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  Speaker 1: while it might seem like a plus to butt up
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  Speaker 1: to someone who is actively managing for deer, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: totally sold on that. Some of the worst people I've
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  Speaker 1: met my hunting life have been hunters who are into
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  Speaker 1: trophies more than anything. And now I'm generalizing here, so
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  Speaker 1: hold off before you fire off nasty grahams to meet
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  Speaker 1: it or in an effort to cancel me. It's just
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  Speaker 1: that some of the worst things that come out of
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  Speaker 1: hunting come out of the trophy over everything mentality, and
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  Speaker 1: that can lead to bad relationships. If you shoot someone
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  Speaker 1: else's up and comer, you'll be on their ship list.
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  Speaker 1: If you shoot the booner they've been babysitting for six years,
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  Speaker 1: you might make a list that's worse than their ship list,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know what you'd call it. And of
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  Speaker 1: course you might meet someone who loves working the land
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  Speaker 1: and hunting the deer and hit it off great, which
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  Speaker 1: makes a good case for chatting up the neighbors before
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  Speaker 1: you buy. And unless you've got a friend in the
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  Speaker 1: FBI who isn't opposed to breaking a bunch of laws
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  Speaker 1: to dig into I don't know random strangers info. Side note,
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  Speaker 1: please don't attempt that you really have to do just
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  Speaker 1: all you can. If you do pull a trigger on
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  Speaker 1: the land and you haven't met the neighbors, you probably
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  Speaker 1: soon will. There are different ways to handle this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but here's what I do. Whenever I meet them. I
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  Speaker 1: try to be very kind, but I clearly lay out
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  Speaker 1: my rules. I always explained that the land is for
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  Speaker 1: my family and mostly my daughters, and that I don't
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  Speaker 1: tolerate trespassing. I also casually throw in the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I run a lot of cell cameras, even if on
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  Speaker 1: that property I actually won't or don't. Then I trade
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  Speaker 1: numbers and I tell the neighbors if they hit a
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  Speaker 1: deer and they need to go on to mine to
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  Speaker 1: retrieve it, it's all good as long as they let
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  Speaker 1: me know first, and I assure them I'll do the same.
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  Speaker 1: If there is some request, like one of my neighbors
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  Speaker 1: who loves to snowshoe with his wife in the winter,
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  Speaker 1: I tell them to go nuts for doughnuts once the
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  Speaker 1: season is over. I also, on one of my properties,
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  Speaker 1: allowed the snowmobile trail to stay in place since it
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  Speaker 1: only crossed a small portion of my land and it
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  Speaker 1: was used during the off season. Now maybe it's b s,
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  Speaker 1: but a little good will seems to go a long
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  Speaker 1: way in neighbor relationships. Now, dealing with neighbors can be terrible,
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  Speaker 1: or it can be a non issue for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: You definitely want the ladder, and one way to get
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  Speaker 1: closer to that is to understand the property boundaries. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean really understand them. This is an important one
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  Speaker 1: and it requires a recent survey. Many of the hunting
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  Speaker 1: land listings are offered up before the tract has actually
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  Speaker 1: been parceled out of a larger chunk, so the boundaries
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  Speaker 1: and the listing aren't exact. This is good to know, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Oftentimes land listings will show superimposed boundaries that might be
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  Speaker 1: spot on or not really that close. Figure that out
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  Speaker 1: before you go to the bank. It's also worth noting
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of times landowners sort of settled for
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  Speaker 1: agreed upon boundaries that may or not be legally correct.
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  Speaker 1: The old fence line through the woods might be good
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  Speaker 1: enough for forty years between two landowners, but if it's
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  Speaker 1: not actually the line, a new person in the mix
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  Speaker 1: might be interested in establishing the real boundaries. This type
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  Speaker 1: of thing happens all the time. It's bad enough with
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  Speaker 1: a shared line, but a whole different thing when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to access. If you don't clearly understand your legal access,
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  Speaker 1: don't sign anything. Trust me, some listings have proposed easements
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  Speaker 1: or potential access that doesn't mean much yet. Don't buy
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  Speaker 1: anything that you don't have a clear cut legal way
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  Speaker 1: to access. And for any of those iffy access is
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  Speaker 1: if you live in a place with real winter, like
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  Speaker 1: I do, pay attention to whether you could get in
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  Speaker 1: there in the winter. If it's a little two track
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  Speaker 1: across the seller's land to get back to the landing
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  Speaker 1: they're selling you, you might not be able to access
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  Speaker 1: that land for I don't know, five months a year,
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  Speaker 1: or if you live down south it might flood in
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  Speaker 1: the spring. Pay attention to that stuff, think about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's also wise to understand if you'll be dealing with
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  Speaker 1: any building restrictions, wet land restrictions, in anything, anything that
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  Speaker 1: could keep you from utilizing the land the way you
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  Speaker 1: want to utilize it. The more information you have, the better.
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  Speaker 1: This goes for making an offer to and understanding what
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  Speaker 1: the land is worth at the time. Just as an example,
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  Speaker 1: the last property I bought in Wisconsin consists of about
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  Speaker 1: ten acres of really nice high woods and about twenty
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  Speaker 1: acres of mixed low ground. I made my offer based
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  Speaker 1: on that breakdown because the high woods at that time
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  Speaker 1: was worth about twice what the low ground was worth.
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  Speaker 1: Going into it with a reasonable offer that shows you
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  Speaker 1: understand land values seems to get the deal done in
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  Speaker 1: my experience. Now here's where I'm going to cover my
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  Speaker 1: ass because I'm not a real estate lawyer. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a realtor either. I'm not really a professional anything, especially
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to land buying. So don't be shy
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  Speaker 1: about enlisting professional help. In fact, I encourage that just
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  Speaker 1: about with any big adult endeavor, a good professional will
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  Speaker 1: cost you up front, but it's very very likely to
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  Speaker 1: save you on the back end. Plus you'll have a
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  Speaker 1: less stressful experience throughout the entire process because you have
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  Speaker 1: someone who knows this stuff inside and out and is
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  Speaker 1: advocating for you. That's worth a lot. Now, there are
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  Speaker 1: probably thousands of important details I'm missing with this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to end it on a note about
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  Speaker 1: setting land goals. As I laid out in the last episode,
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  Speaker 1: you can find small, affordable chunks of land in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of places throughout the country. They may not be
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  Speaker 1: ideal for growing huge bucks and having a long list
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  Speaker 1: of names on your hit list each season, that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Understanding where you're at in life and what you can
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  Speaker 1: afford that's important. I look at land buying like this,
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  Speaker 1: and although I realized this might be a weird comparison,
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  Speaker 1: but hear me out. When I was a freshman in college,
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  Speaker 1: I hung out with quite a few of the dudes
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  Speaker 1: on my floor or the dorm. One of them was
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  Speaker 1: nicknamed fried Rice because he was a huge fan of
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  Speaker 1: getting stoned. He was also really weird about women and
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  Speaker 1: that he was so picky he never even really tried.
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  Speaker 1: He'd often talk about his dream girl, but that dream
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  Speaker 1: girl was so far out of his league it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even funny. I mean, it would be like a first
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  Speaker 1: year bow hunter saying that he's only hunting public land
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  Speaker 1: in Alabama and only picking his bow up if the
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  Speaker 1: buck is at least a typical anyway, fried Rice was
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  Speaker 1: an act like that, Picky, I don't think. I think
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  Speaker 1: he was just terrified a rejection, so he safeguarded himself
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  Speaker 1: against it by holding himself to him possibly high standards.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen quite a few of my hunting buddies do
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  Speaker 1: this with land. They'll say they are waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: price to be reasonable so they can hit some arbitrary
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  Speaker 1: number of acres, but land doesn't usually get much cheaper.
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  Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it as an investment, and although
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  Speaker 1: it's tied to a host of regional factors, something like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, eighty acres in a lot of places
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  Speaker 1: might be way out of the reach of almost everyone
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  Speaker 1: who would listen to this podcast. That could mean several
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is a lot of
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  Speaker 1: cash eat for the average deer hunter. It's also a
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  Speaker 1: way to keep yourself from ever taking the plunge. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: like I said in the last episode, if you're interested
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  Speaker 1: at all, start looking. You might not be able to
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  Speaker 1: buy a half a section of sweet deer and turkey
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  Speaker 1: ground that will provide tons of income and crop rental
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  Speaker 1: and keep you in fresh tax at or may for
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  Speaker 1: your walls every season, but you can also do a
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  Speaker 1: lot with twenty or thirty acres. I'm continually amazed at
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  Speaker 1: the variety of work that I can do on my
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  Speaker 1: small properties. Just maintaining a little kill plot is both
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  Speaker 1: fun and a lot more work than I expected it
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  Speaker 1: to be. You could spend days upon days creating trails
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  Speaker 1: or cutting brusher trees and still have years worth of
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  Speaker 1: work to do. When I bought my first acre parcel
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  Speaker 1: a decade ago, I foolishly thought I'd run out of
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  Speaker 1: things to do within a year or two, and I
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  Speaker 1: was so freaking wrong. Every year I find more things
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  Speaker 1: to mess with it, more reasons to go spend time
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  Speaker 1: with my dogs and my daughters, more reasons to poke
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  Speaker 1: around in the winter, more time to daydream about putting
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  Speaker 1: in another kill plot, or making a few brush piles
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  Speaker 1: for the rabbits, or maybe opening up a few of
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  Speaker 1: the random apple trees in there to more sunlight so
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  Speaker 1: they grow more. On that small parcel alone, we hunt
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  Speaker 1: deer and turkeys and grouse occasionally bears and rabbits and squirrels.
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  Speaker 1: Do I wish I had a I don't know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple hundred more acres to work with. You bet your
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  Speaker 1: ass I do. But the only way an outdoor writer
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  Speaker 1: is going to get that type of land is if
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  Speaker 1: he goes back in time and buys Apple stock in
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  Speaker 1: Since I can't do that, the next best thing is
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  Speaker 1: a shop for good land deals that are more in
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  Speaker 1: my financial wheelhouse. I strongly urge anyone who is interested
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  Speaker 1: to do the same. Do this. If you're in your
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  Speaker 1: prime earning years and maybe getting a little gray in
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  Speaker 1: your beard, or if you're a young go getter wondering
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  Speaker 1: if you're ever feel financially secure and if you'll ever
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  Speaker 1: get out from under a mountain of student loan debt.
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  Speaker 1: The timeline may be vastly different for each of us,
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  Speaker 1: but the goal is the same, to own a little
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  Speaker 1: piece of deer grown. While you're thinking about that, think
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  Speaker 1: about this. Next week, I'm going to start talking a
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  Speaker 1: little more in depth about archery tackle. You may remember
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago I did an episode on
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  Speaker 1: whether anyone really needs a new bow? Well, now I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to devote some time to bow accessories and then
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  Speaker 1: maybe the arrows and broadheads. Hell, I might even talk
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  Speaker 1: about deer gun and some bullet choice and a few
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  Speaker 1: of the offseason things we should all be thinking about
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  Speaker 1: gear wise. That's it for this week. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 1: for listening to the Wire to Hunt Foundations podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tony Peterson and this episode was brought to
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