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NCAA to Vacate CFB WIns, Texas Cancels ASU, Jaden Rashada Settlement, College Football Chaos · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: College Football Apostles is here. We got a lot to
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: talk about. The NCAA is getting ready to do something ridiculous.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: We're talking about vacating wins. This has to be one
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: of the all time stupidest things that they ever do.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: And it is one hundred percent ineffective. And we'll talk
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: about it and dig deep into it. Texas cancels Arizona State,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: and this is the They're getting in line with teams
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: that are softening up their schedule. And I do not
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: understand how they have convinced you fans that this is
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: better for you and better for your viewing experience. We'll
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: talk about that. Kenny Dillingham, he asked for twenty million
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: dollars and apparently he got twenty million dollars. So everybody
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: that was saying, oh, you got on TV begging hey,
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: closed mouths, don't get fed. Tash Lupoi, speaking of clothesed mouse,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: don't get fed. He went and bagged his way and
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: he kept his quarterback after he got the job at Cal.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: So good on him. And why Dion Sanders needs to
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: take a page out of the tash Lupoy playbook. Now
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: a college basketball story. Jerome Tang he got fired at
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  Speaker 1: Kansas State. How will this impact their college football program?
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Oh, he had some things to say. Well, actually,
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith talked about what it was like with him
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: at Utah and it is a very Urban Meyer story.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: And you'll be like, yeah, that's part four the course.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: And also another Georgia player arrested. I mean in other
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  Speaker 1: newswater is wet and I have finally been vindicated. Today
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  Speaker 1: is the day that I get to run my victory lap.
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  Speaker 1: And I will tell you about what up.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: the top twenty next year. All right, so we're gonna
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: start at something. Well, there are two things early in
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  Speaker 1: the show that have me so hot, and Ralph, I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you explain. The first thing where the ncuble A
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  Speaker 1: now is coming out talking about they want to do
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  Speaker 1: something else idiotic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's always it feels like on this show, a
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  Speaker 2: bad day for the NT double A. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we've ever let a show like they did it
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  Speaker 2: again made us all happy and proud. But there's an
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  Speaker 2: article up on On three by Ross Dellinger. It's titled
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  Speaker 2: how a nineteen seventy five legal battle could lead to
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  Speaker 2: NC double A punishment for Memphis, San Diego State, and
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  Speaker 2: even Indiana, and it goes into the background story of
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  Speaker 2: Lonnie Shelton, who was an Oregon State basketball player back
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy five. He sued the NC double A
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  Speaker 2: after they deemed him ineligible because he signed a pro
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  Speaker 2: basketball contract. He argued that the contract he signed was invalid.
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  Speaker 2: He won in court. Judge granted him the injunction all
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  Speaker 2: the way back in nineteen seventy five to return to
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  Speaker 2: play his final season in cor Dallas and the Beavers
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  Speaker 2: went eighteen and nine. They went to the Sweet sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: and that was only when there was thirty two teams
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  Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournaments. Those are really good, So.
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  Speaker 1: The teams have been so players have been legally battling.
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  Speaker 1: The NC double A says nineteen seventy five, and we
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  Speaker 1: still don't have eligibility rules, like clear eligibility rules. Hm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds dumb. Okay, go on, that's an ip chucked.
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  Speaker 2: NC double A battles with their own players are if
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  Speaker 2: they were a person, would be at gen X person. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so uh. Anyway, the the way that it worked is
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of like the Maurice Claret Mike Williams
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  Speaker 2: case where a judge granted the injunction and then and
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  Speaker 2: then upon appeal it got reversed. The Ninth Circuit of
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  Speaker 2: Appeals overruled the District court injunction, and the nc DOUBA
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  Speaker 2: voted to invoke a new rule, rule of restitution. So
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  Speaker 2: then they passed that rule in like nineteen seventy four,
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  Speaker 2: they took fifteen wins from Oregon State, and they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to rest on that same rule fifty one years later.
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  Speaker 2: And this was ross Ellinger said, this was unearthed by
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  Speaker 2: the commercial appeal. The NCUBA is thrown Memphis, Yeah, your hometown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember being in the commercial appeal.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's wild. But the NCUBA is threat to use
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  Speaker 2: the rule of restitution from nineteen seventy four against Memphis
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  Speaker 2: and San Diego State, which each played a player last
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  Speaker 2: season that was eligible via a court order, despite the
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  Speaker 2: NCUBLEA saying that they weren't Cortes Brahm sixty three catches
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  Speaker 2: for nine hundred yards, played in twelve games from Memphis
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  Speaker 2: and defensive linemen to two Martinsen played in four games
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  Speaker 2: for San Diego State. And yeah, so the NC DOUBLEA
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  Speaker 2: is looking at reverse punishment for people who beat them
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  Speaker 2: in court and curious, George, what your thoughts are. You've
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  Speaker 2: already expressed some of them. But is it worthwhile for
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  Speaker 2: the NCUBLEA to spend time and energy trying to claim
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  Speaker 2: back wins from the loss to in court over eligibility issues.
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  Speaker 1: No, we do not care. We do not care. This
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  Speaker 1: is one of the dumbest things the NC DOUBLEA ever
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  Speaker 1: embarks on trying to vacate wins. What are rough? What
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  Speaker 1: do vacated wins do? Nothing? Because we all saw what happened.
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  Speaker 1: And they're talking about Indiana. Indiana won the national championship
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  Speaker 1: last year. They won the game, they went undefeated. Are
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  Speaker 1: you getting ready to sit here and tell me that
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna vacate those wins take a national championship back.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Miami won the national championship because they
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  Speaker 1: lost on the field. Like Reggie Bush and his heisman trophy, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take the His heisman was taken back, we
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  Speaker 1: saw it happen. The University of Memphis played against Kansas
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  Speaker 1: in the National Championship with Derrick Rose, but apparently they
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  Speaker 1: won no games that season and no tournament games. So
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: who the Kansas played in the National Championship? Who missed
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: those free throws? I mean Joe Paterno as whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is that he got accused of and did and anything else,
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  Speaker 1: They still won those football games. Like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: You can't just men in black hit a button and
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, yep, it's gone. We all saw what happened.
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  Speaker 1: You can't erase it from our minds and the idea
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  Speaker 1: that you're gonna punish somebody because people don't even care
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  Speaker 1: about the record books like that. Hey hey, hey, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a talking point. Michigan has the most wins of
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  Speaker 1: anybody all time. Okay, but did they win the National
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  Speaker 1: Championship this year or last year? Did they cheat the
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  Speaker 1: year before that? Yeah? Right, So like that's all people
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  Speaker 1: care about. And do you know what, in like twenty years,
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: people will still be talking about Michigan potentially cheating, But
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: you know what they won't be talking about. They don't
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  Speaker 1: talk about no vacated wins. That does nothing to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the University of Memphis where they said that
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  Speaker 1: they you know, they may we may take back wins
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  Speaker 1: to who the players gone. Half the other players are
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: at Arkansas right now, the head coaches at Arkansas. What
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  Speaker 1: are we doing? Ralph? I cannot understand why the NCAA,
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  Speaker 1: which has so many other problems. They got a calendar problem,
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  Speaker 1: they got an enforcement on nil and the transfer portal
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  Speaker 1: and contracts not being contracts problem. They have coaches leaving
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the season problem. They have all
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  Speaker 1: of these problems. But but let's worry about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the the handful of eligibility issues, and let's go
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  Speaker 1: take back some wins. How about you punish North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: for sham classes. How about you punish Baylor. Oh but
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: we don't have power to do that, but you can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, punish Terrail Prior and other kids at Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State for trading merch for tattoos that all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's our business.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, Charlie Baker, Go find some go pound some sand,
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  Speaker 1: go try to expand do something else silly like expand
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: the march madness. Dude, this is no different than politics, Ralph.
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  Speaker 1: We get so caught up in the minutia instead of
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  Speaker 1: the things that actually matter. I guess.
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  Speaker 2: That I didn't. I didn't want to uh interrupt us
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: trying to keep myself from interrupting you because I I
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  Speaker 2: There is another side to this. Do we want the
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  Speaker 2: NCAA to be able to enforce rules or not?
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  Speaker 1: They they've shown that they either they won't or they can't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But they're the temporary injunctions that were granted in
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  Speaker 2: many of the cases of former junior college players who
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: went into college football, if not fully understanding, at least
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: being presented with the idea that their eligibility clock was
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  Speaker 2: going to start. But one person puts one chink in
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  Speaker 2: the armor of the eligibility rules when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the fact that can the NC DOUBLEA actually have jurisdiction
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  Speaker 2: over a completely separate league that's not affiliated with the
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  Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA as far as the junior college associations that
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  Speaker 2: exist all over America, and it's not like there's one
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  Speaker 2: big association, there's several. Can the NC double A start
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  Speaker 2: somebody's eligibility clock with schools who are non participating in
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  Speaker 2: the NC Double A? I think it's a worthy question
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  Speaker 2: that deserves a permanent answer. But until we have a
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  Speaker 2: permanent answer on it, the nc double A, everybody's begging
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  Speaker 2: them to enforce stuff those were technically rules on the
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  Speaker 2: books when like Lewis Moore from Indiana. When Lewis Moore
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  Speaker 2: was at Navarro Junior College in Texas, he was doing
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: so with the understanding that he was burning eligibility. But
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Diego Pavia wins his case and all of a sudden,
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: everybody's like, oh, maybe I'm still eligible. And then he
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  Speaker 2: becomes a twenty four year old starter, third leading tackler
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  Speaker 2: for the National Champion. And there are coaches all over
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  Speaker 2: America who are like, do we have rules or not?
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  Speaker 2: They need the nc DOUAA to take these course these
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  Speaker 2: cases to the end. What you're saying, do you have
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  Speaker 2: a problem with the NCAA trying to continue to continue
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  Speaker 2: to pursue answers in this or do you have a
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  Speaker 2: problem with them having a consequence if they're the ones
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  Speaker 2: that end up being correct, Because if they were correct
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  Speaker 2: the whole time, why is it not within their purview?
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem is that Ralph, it's not correct. They
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  Speaker 1: invented arbitrary rules. This is exactly why I will stand
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  Speaker 1: on this. On business, we need collective bargaining. The players
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  Speaker 1: have to be able to negotiate with an entity, so
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  Speaker 1: you can eight rules, and once those rules are established,
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  Speaker 1: and then you sign up to be part of college
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  Speaker 1: football or college basketball, college sports in whatever division that
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  Speaker 1: you are in, you know what the rules are. So
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: now when you take it to court, a judge is
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, hey, you see this paper that
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  Speaker 1: you signed. It said that you understood this and that
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  Speaker 1: you agreed with this, and so now bye bye. No,
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  Speaker 1: the answer is no, and I am fine with rules.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there need to be rules, but thinking
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  Speaker 1: that the NCAA just gets to set them, no, no, no, no.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: The NBA can't just set rules without the players. The
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  Speaker 1: NFL can't set rules without the players. MLB can't set
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  Speaker 1: rules without the players. There have to be protections. And
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  Speaker 1: I've heard people say, well, well, the players don't want
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  Speaker 1: a union and all number one players don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Baker came out today, the president of the NCAA
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  Speaker 2: came out today and he said we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: have collective bargaining. And that's not really a me thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's the players who don't want it.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lie, because it is the The people who
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  Speaker 1: need collective bargaining are not the one percent players, They
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  Speaker 1: are the ninety nine percent. They are the middle class
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  Speaker 1: that needs protections that if you get hurt and then
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: somebody tries to pull your scholar there have to be
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: rules around scholarships. There have to be rules around players transferring.
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  Speaker 1: So the protections are not just for the players. Therefore,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: the schools as well is they need protections about injuries.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Who should pay for it? If you break your neck
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  Speaker 1: when you are in college playing college football, making for
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: other people? Who should then pay for that? Your you know,
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  Speaker 1: your five years or eight years of care that you
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: need and your medical bills to get yourself back together.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Who should pay for it? When you when you spiral
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: fracture your your leg on a slide tackling soccer and
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: you're and you don't make NIO money like that, who
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: should pay for that? The people whose jersey that you
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: were wearing. There needs to be some sort of insurance
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: for it. And the schools need to have protections for
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: when Darien Mensa signs a contract and it's like nah,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami. No, Bro, you're under contract. I
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: don't care if you want to be here or not.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Two things. Number One, you and I talked about the
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: fact that I told you the ACC Media Day was
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: going to put Duke in Miami as far from the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: east was the west at ACC media kickoff this year,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: and you told them, uh, and your message to the
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: ACC was don't duck the smoke. Maybe you'll actually get
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: some coverage this year. Ye, you will be displeased to
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: find out the email just went out from the ACC.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Miami is like leading off. I think they're the second
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: school at ACC media kickoff and two days later the
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: third to last school is Duke. So they really did it.
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  Speaker 2: They they made sure that there's gonna be no crossover
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  Speaker 2: between Darien Mensa and his old school.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting so soft, bro, I'm and they're turning me
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: into a get off my long guy, Like they're turning
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: me into the old man screaming at the clouds, because well,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: when get.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Off my lawn guy would be pro and C double
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: a and you're not necessarily that. But what answer me this, George,
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  Speaker 2: if if if you even if you get collective bargaining
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  Speaker 2: at the NC double A level. On a practical level,
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  Speaker 2: can you govern eligibility rules for people playing in a
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  Speaker 2: league that you don't govern, Or does the NC double
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  Speaker 2: A need to find a way to absorb all junior college.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think absorbing all junior colleges is even
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  Speaker 1: a It's not even a responsible attempt at undertaking. They
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: can barely manage what they have going now.
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  Speaker 2: And so could your kid do three years in JUCO,
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  Speaker 2: four years at Naia and then enroll at Sacramento State
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  Speaker 2: at twenty six years old and start as a freshman.
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  Speaker 1: Is what it is, brother, is what it is until
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  Speaker 1: there are some rules. I mean, if if you do
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  Speaker 1: not enroll in an institution or either that or you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: got to put an age limit on it something. I'm
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: not saying that you should be thirty out there being
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: able to but like little let's say you went to
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the military first or whatever. I remember being in college
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  Speaker 1: and we had a twenty six year old on our
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: team because he came out of the military at at Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: So there do have to be rules, and I'm not
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: against that, I am. I am saying that, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: put this into perspective. If if your kids, because me
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: and you both have teenage kids, and we tell our kids,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: all right, you can go out with your friends. Don't
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: come home too late? Okay, what's too late? Who determined
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: what too late is? Because if they show up at
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: nine o'clock, you're like, why are you here so late? Like, bro,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you said, don't show up too late, and then then
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it's ten o'clock, or then it's eight thirty years. It's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a nebulous time.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: So to just describe my childhood exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And then your parents are screaming at you or you're
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: screaming at you. You came home too late. You didn't
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: tell me what time to be home. We didn't sit
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: down and talk and be like all right, cool, okay dad, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well son, don't be home too late. That what time
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: would you like me home? Don't come home too late?
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  Speaker 1: Dad was like, me home at eight nine, okay, be
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  Speaker 1: here by nine. At nine oh one. You have the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: right to be upset at eight fifty nine, all is good.
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  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, kids don't get to bargain on
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  Speaker 2: what that you want. You want clear boundaries, but the
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  Speaker 2: idea that you get to say in it. You don't.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You don't get to say, but I give, I give
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  Speaker 1: my kids somewhat of a say like they don't get
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  Speaker 1: like I'm the final judge. But but we will have
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  Speaker 1: a discussion and like, yo, I think you need to
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  Speaker 1: be be here at eight thirty? Oh dad, kay? Can
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  Speaker 1: I do nine fifteen?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Here are the reasons why no? Or okay, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but one minute past nine fifteen, we'll we'll we'll move
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  Speaker 1: it back to eight o'clock not eight thirty.
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  Speaker 2: But how how could the NCAA enforce something like that? Like,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you know, it's getting to the point where I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It just feels like we're getting complaints on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's saying the NC double A is toothless and also
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that the NC double A shouldn't be biting.
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  Speaker 1: People because you can't bite people when they're when when
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: there isn't a beware of dog fence up you know
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you can't be you just you,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you just can't. And part of this, and this actually
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: strikes a chord with me because I'm a kid is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: getting ready to go to Juco, who's transferring down to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: go to JUCO. So, uh, we may be in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: legal system in a couple of years, buddy. So so
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: this actually hit hits home to me and hey, brother,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: if there are no rules, we will we will be
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: fighting it. That's all I can tell you. If he
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: wants another year of eligibility is what's surprise topic. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: he's getting medical too, so so we could have a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: JUCO year and a medical to to to fight for.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So he may have been in think think about about this.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: He goes to college, he was a hurt, had surgeries,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, missed his whole first year. Next year,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: got got fully healthy about halfway through the season, then
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we'ld be transferring and then go to JUCO for a year.
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  Speaker 1: So he would be out of school for three college
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: football seasons and still have four years to play what.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: He call his early part of his journey, his mission?
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: What is what is I like that? I like that?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: What is the difference? Talking about Jesus? It was a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: missions a mission.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Surprise topic because we're talking about legal battles, and one
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: came to a close this week. But you and I
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: got the opportunity a couple of years ago in March
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to spend the day with Jane and Reshada. Uh love
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that kid. He's great and I think most people only
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: know his name, not from his.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Play on this is what you thought there was? The
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: surprise topic was no, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: This is my surprise.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You are wrong.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: No, I know exactly what I'm waiting for yours, but no,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So you and I got the opportunity to spend the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: day with Jaden Rashada. You know his dad a little bit.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: His dad's a su alum. I'm asu alum. His situation
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: was he got offered that there wasn't a market yet
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, and he got offered the most and we're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: still chasing the total contract value four years later, the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: annual value apparently, yeah, the annual value has eclipsed it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Obviously we got you know, Brendan Soresby, Sam Levitt, guys
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: getting between four and six, Darry Mensa amongst them. But
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Jaden Rashada, he he got offered out of the gate
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: with no market set, no idea what this was all
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: going to be, like thirteen million dollars and him as
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a nineteen year old, he was like, okay, that was it,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: like just all right? Or probably eighteen at time.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: And remember, oh, Miami was in on the same type
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of money too, almost.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he ends up he ends up at Florida
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: thirteen million dollars and immediate, immediately, I guess they probably
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: weren't all on the same page with this. Immediately, Florida's like, no,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: we're not doing this. But Jamis was already on campus.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, so let me provide now that this is over,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I can provide some more insight on this, okay, Okay,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: So so here is what happened. So contract gets signed.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: It is with the Collectives of Florida, Okay, because they
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: had two at the time, the UH and then one
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: ended up defunct. Okay, the one that backed the majority
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of the money.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Billy Napier was in on this contract. He can try
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to deny it all he wants to publicly, but there's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a reason why they settled this time. There's a reason
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: why they settled because they did not want Discovery, which
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was gonna put Florida in a very precarious spot. Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And then we know what happens with Discovery, because that's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: how Hugh Freeze ended up in an issue the first
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: time when he was at Ole miss It wasn't even
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: related to him, and he got jammed up. So so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what happened is he was supposed to get a large
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: payment before signing day. Okay, it never shows up. Wire
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: never hits. So now the family's like, I don't know
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: because because remember he didn't sign initially, and they were like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the money's gonna be there, money's gonna be there. You
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: gotta sign first, gotta sign first, and then mind you,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be another payment after he signed. The
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: kid signs anyway because he's an adult. His dad was like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: don't sign this shit. But he was eighteen already.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: He was over.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: He might have been nineteen at the time, and so
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he would have turned He.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Would have turned nineteen in September of his of that
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: year or no, because he went immediately to Arizona State, Right, yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: so you're right. He probably would have been nineteen because
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: he turned twenty in at the game he played against
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, so nineteen already. Kids signs it himself and then
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he's on campus. He's in Gainesville. Parents have moved already,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: parents are moved to Florida already. Boom, money don't show up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, it's like, oh, we got
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to redo this and we don't know and blah blah blah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's what happened. And then that's why
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: they ended up checking out of there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: So so you know, this is a situation where unfortunately it
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: kind of derailed his whole situation. He goes to Arizona State,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: he gets hurt, he gets hurt again in the in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the spring, but that Arizona State had brought in Sam
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Levitt and they had pinned him as the guy who
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: is going to start, regardless of what avenue Jane Mashada.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: He goes to develop, he had the offer from Mississippi State.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: He goes to develop at Georgia for a year, ends
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: up at Sack State. It's a kind of a weird
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: system for him, but he starts a few games and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: now he's back at Mississippi State, which kind of believed
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in him in the first place. And I think if
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: any city in America suits his personality, start feels probably
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: oh yes, yes, So I love that fit for him.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good kid. I just want to say,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it's a damn shame that that's how everybody got to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: know him, because if you're nineteen years old old. If
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: you're eighteen years old and somebody comes to you and says,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: come work at my company. Here's thirteen million dollars and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: all you do is say okay and sign your name.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: You didn't do anything wrong.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, you did not. And and after knowing
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: this kid, knowing his family, I like, for me, there
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was no because he got laughed at, he got mocked,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: he got ridiculed, and I'm like, bro, this is a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: good kid. It's a good kid that got caught up
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in the business of sports. And how many times do
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: we see that people who are on the first boat out,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: they they are usually the people that that that end
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: up getting thrown overboard. And there there would be no
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, what's the kid at LSU now who
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: replaced him over at Arizona State?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Sam Levitt?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there would be no Sam Levitt without Jayden
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: getting his money at LSU, without Jaden Rashot. He took
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the bullet so you didn't have to.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know Lewis and Clark's name because they made
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: it all the way to Oregon.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: We don't know anybody else's name who got eaten by
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a Bear the first time they hit the Rockies. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is. But yeah, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: just wanted to bring that up. Because that court case
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: is settled, We're never going to know anything about it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you provided some I'm gonna get
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: some moil. I'm gonna get some more details. We're gonna
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: do interview, interview, interview. We've been waiting on this to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: get settled.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Well. Speaking of backing out of agreements, the University of
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Texas has said we do not want a college football
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: playoff rematch with the Arizona State Sundittles. They have backed
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: out of that home and home it was five years off.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Texas fans want you to believe that this is no
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: big deal. You, I'm assuming want us to believe this
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is part of a greater trend and we can't let
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: one of these things slide.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: There you go, Ralph, there you go. Okay. So I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: want to back this up because there's a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: people that look at college football and they're looking at
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it and they let Texas fans propaganda them into believing
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the fact that they missed the college football playoff because
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: they played Ohio State. Ralph, is that the reason why
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they missed the college football playoff, or is the reason
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: why they missed the college football playoff because they looked
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: like ass for the first six weeks of the season
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and then they lost to Florida. So them saying, oh,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: they are upset that they didn't field a you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a college football playoff team roster and results last year,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and it is it's honestly sad that we have come
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to the point that people are trying to convince you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that in a season that only has twelve games, that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: playing less good games is better for the fans. This
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: is the entertainment business. This is a put on a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: show for your fans. But instead we are trying to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: manufacture records. And that's why we need scheduled uniformity. And
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to this Texas played in case you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: don't believe it, let's go here. I'm gonna put the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Texas to schedule and their results up
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: on the screen. Because it's like people forget because they
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: went on to go beat Because people forget because they
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: went on to go beat Texas A and M at
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the end of the season. They forgot what the beginning
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of the season looked like and you know who didn't
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: forget me? I did not forget what happened. How they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: didn't look good against Ohio State, but still it's Ohio State.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: It was a fourteen to fourteen to seven game. Okay, cool.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And then you have the San Jose State game. Yes
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: they won thirty eight to seven, but if you watch
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that game, that game wasn't really that pretty. Can we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: agree with that? And then the UTEP game twenty seven
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to ten, and then Sam Houston State, and then you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: lose to Florida, the Kentucky game stayed the Mississippi State
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: game like they weren't even there was a point in
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the season, Ralph, they weren't even ranked, and we're making
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it seem like they got the short end of the stick.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, Ralph, their fans are
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: then crying and complaining, Oh, you're not talking about anybody else.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Nobody talks about anybody else getting getting uh putting these
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: bad schedules out. You know who has you know who
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: has two thumbs and has every single time it comes up.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: This guy, I've been banging brouh. I've been banging on
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the drum for sec schedules eight conference games, three freebie wins,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and then a sim and sometimes a semi competitive or
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a competitive non conference game. But but now that's fixed
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in the none because they have nine conference games. But
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: now you got Alabama threatening into cancel Ohio State. I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: criticized Indiana last year for taking Virginia off the schedule.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I criticized Ohio State's scheduled the year before that. Michigan
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is the year before that. It is soft SF capital
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: T and I swear to God, if it weren't not
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: cool to share text messages, I have texted Dan Lanning myself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, please, don't you ever do this,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: because I will have to talk shit about you on TV.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I promise you I will if Dan Lanning takes a
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a you know, a good non conference game off, I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: will call him soft too. I will because I'm a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: college football fan before I am anything else about this
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: sport and the idea that we would give you less
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: good inventory and the fact that you've been brainwashed to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: believe that that is a worthwhile way of thinking. And
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: then you got and remember this, Ralph, I know you're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: gonna remember when Nick Saban was talking about why are
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the students leaving the student section during the Citadel game
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: because it's fifty five to nothing. Bro, nobody wants to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: waste their Saturday that they can spend on the lake drinking,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: hanging out with their friends. You know, honey, dude, list
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: something watching a piece of you know what game and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: when you could have been playing Hell South Florida would
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: have would would would have been accepted, even though it
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't a you know it's not you know you're not
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: playing Georgia schedule, Arizona State schedule, Washington State schedule, anybody.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: All I want is good games. If my team can't
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: turn around and beat Oklahoma State and we missed the playoffs,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so what so what then we didn't deserve it. But
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: everybody wants charity, everybody wants participation, trophies. Oh we made
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it to the playoff, but you can't win. Texas, you
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: were not a top twelve team last year. No matter
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: what you try to convince yourself, you were not one
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of the twelve best because you beat Quiz Texas.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Quiz yes, pop quiz yes or no? Do you think
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that Texas had a top five offense in the SEC
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: last year? No, that is correct. Yes or no. Do
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you believe that Texas had a top five defense in
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the SEC last year? No, you are correct, Yes or no?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Do you believe that Texas had a top ten strength
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of schedule in the SEC last year?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Top ten?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Top ten?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I mean pull up, pull up the schedule again. So
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: they had Mississippi State, Kentucky, Florida.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: No, you are incorrect. They were number ten.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, excuse me, excuse me.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: They weren't top five in offense in the SEC. They
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: weren't top five in defense in the SEC. They had
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the number ten ranked schedule, and they lost to Florida.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: They had plenty of games where they didn't look good.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: If they were so deserving of a college football playoff spot,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Pete Kwakowski wouldn't be the defensive line coach for the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals right now. So like, you can't be like
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: we deserve to be in the playoff, Pete, You're fired.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: You can't do that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: And then you got that Georgia game was bad, thirty
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: five ten. Had you even played Georgia competitive, Maybe maybe
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we can talk about that. You gave up thirty seven
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to Arkansas. And no, it is not just Texas, Miami
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and South Carolina, they cancel future home and homes Florida
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and Arizona State, calum BYU, Georgia, Louisville. The only thing
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that this is why schedule uniformity has to be the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: overarching point is because you can't have Kurt Signetti up
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: there at Indiana, you know, manufacturing three wins. The committee
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: has to punish people for this, has to You should
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: get rewarded for better scheduling. But then when you lose
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to bad teams, and Texas will try to argue up
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and down, Florida was not as bad as they're was.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: They fired their head coach, bitch their quarterback. This one
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a good football team, right, no matter how much talent
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: that they had on the football team.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, each of these two criticisms I see that you're
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: getting from Texas fans in your replies. Number one Oregon
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: schedule Boise State Oklahoma State that you don't have the
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: right to talk. Is it Oregon's fault that Oklahoma State
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: immediately fell off a cliff when they were voted to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: be the number one team in the Big Twelve going
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four, and then they went oh and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: nine in conference after being voted number one.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Ralph. People don't want to let common sense get in
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the way of their argument. They don't. They don't. Oregon
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: has a team that was in the playoffs two years
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: ago and Oklahoma State in their in their preseason, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, cool, not a big, big, big deal.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty seven they have Baylor and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Eastern Washington and they're still looking for a new opponent.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight, they got Baylor in North Dakota State.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I have always been of the opinion, Ralph, always been
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of the opinion that you should and my mind, you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I've talked extensively about eight conference games, three out of
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: conference games against the other Power four teams, and then
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: one game against whoever you want to schedule. That's the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: way I think the schedule should be done, because it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: would give us so many data points for strength to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: schedule strength, the record, conference strength, all of those things
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it would give us. It would give us more data
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: than we really even knew what to do with.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And you want to do like year out NFL scheduling,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you're like the number if you finished tenth in the ACC,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: then you get the tenth place school.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Because it's going to create parody, it's gonna create new playoffs.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: It's gonna because people need hope more than anything else.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I know that Texas fans think that they should make
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the playoff every year, and people and from Oregon are
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: not gonna like this. But here's the truth. Oregon can't
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: maybe a playoff team every single year, like like over
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the over a long period of time, Alabama wasn't, Georgia wasn't.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: It's just not possible. So look at how good the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs had been. They just missed the playoffs
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: this year. Might they be back in the playoffs next year. Sure,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: but you don't get to stay at the top of
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the mountain for forever. Because fans need hope. And I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: know that they don't believe that fans at Rutgers need
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the same hope as people at Texas, at same hope
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: as people at Vanderbilt, at at you know, at Baylor,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but they do. They need to believe that at Duke
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that if they get the right coach, the right funding
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to get the right recruits, and the right transfer portal guys,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that within three years they can compete for a college
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: football playoff spot, that they can be a legitimate team
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and not not necessarily maybe not win it, but but
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you need hope. And the argument has always been rout that, oh, well,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this is the way it's always been. Yeah, but we're
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: living in a different time, in a different age, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: people for their attention spans, they need hope more than anything, Like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: there's no more. This's is just who we are. Think
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: about how that plays in in society when we are,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you know, a responsibility people, I mean like personal responsibility,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: pull yourself up by your by your bootstraps. But you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it's the way it's always been. You actually don't need
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you just you just stay living in the in the ghetto,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: you just stay living in the favelas. You just stay
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: living in your double Why it's fine. It's always been
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So the other criticism that you're getting is, and this
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: is interesting because this doesn't apply to Alabama. It kind
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: of does apply to usc They're not gonna be able
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to pull it off on one year's for a few
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: months notice. But you're getting a lot of people saying,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: why are you caping for Arizona State? We can do better?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Do you believe George that Texas in twenty thirty one
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and twenty thirty two is seeking to schedule a tougher
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: opponent than the one that they played in the Peach
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Bowl in twenty.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Four No, Arizona State was just in a college football playoff.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: They were a good team this year despite having their
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: quarterback be injured. What did they finished Round ninety four
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: or eight and eight and five?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I think eight and five, but with two weeks left
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: in the season they were still in the running for
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the Big twelve.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what are we doing? And also and then
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: there's part of me that doesn't care because it's twenty
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: thirty Why are we scheduling games that far out? Anyway,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I hate that idea. Anyway, I would cancel all games,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: not twenty twenty eight or passed. They should all be canceled.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Canceled culture. Here we go our next topic. One thing
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: that you always like to say to me is that
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you do you like to pray for favor and the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: clothes mouths don't get fed. We were just on the
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: topic of Arizona State, and I hate to make it
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: about my alma mater, but a lot of criticism came
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: out when Kenny Dillingham got on TV after he got
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: his contract extension and was like, somebody out there has
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: This is Phoenix, It's a town of industry. Somebody out
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: there can stroke a check for twenty million, become a
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: hero overnight. And oh my gosh, people have been making
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: fun of for being out on the street begging with
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: his cup, like please help Arizona State football, sir. Well,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: he went on the radio in Phoenix on Arizona Sports
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: this week and he said, somebody is maybe not twenty million,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: but somebody who at this point has responded and will
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: find out who eventually with a naming rights deal of
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: up to eight figures for their indoor practice facility. That
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: he did the call and he got the response. So
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: what do you got to say about that, George, About
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham out here begging and it worked.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Clothes mouths don't get fed if you don't ask. The
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: answer is always no. He asked for bread and he
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: got money. He asked for it and he got it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: He said what he needed. The Bible tells you this,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Everything tells you to speak it into existence as for it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: You know, even if you aren't a believer in the Bible,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: forty eight laws of power, the you know the the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: book from Cheryl Sandberg's book Negotiations, and like what everything
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: tells you you have? Fortune favors the aggressive. I say
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: this in football all the time. Fortune favors the aggressive.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: If you sit back back there, do you ever watch
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: beast games, Ralph?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you have With my kids.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: They literally pray on the week they go and it
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: actually kind of may may be mad because they're in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the in the pods right right now, in the top ten,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and they go to one of the ladies and they're like, yo,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I need to get through right now, like like you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: gotta help me, and she feels this overwhelming need to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: help them get five million dollars over her. And I'm like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you're just praying on somebody that you know will do
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: because they didn't go to ask one of the more
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: aggressive players. Hey, yo, I gotta go through this round, man,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like you gotta help me. It's like, bro, I'm trying
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to get through this round, so I don't know what
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to tell you. So it's no different. And Kenny Dillingham,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: good on him. Man. He did his thing. He knows
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: what his program needs. He asked for it and he
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: got it. And Arizona State has needed an indoor practice facility,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: like they have needed shade, shade and a mister. In
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the Arizona summer, it is an inferno out there. It
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is hell on earth. They can't even practice when the
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: sun is out and it's still too hot. So yes,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: they needed an indoor practice facility. And somebody stepped up
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and he's going to continue to do his thing. We've
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: heard Nick Saban. Hey, guys, Alabama, we gotta get on
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the n Io train. We don't we we can't compete
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: with these other guys. Kirby Smart has done it, Mario
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Christ all these coaches have done it, but we're villainizing
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham for doing it. Stand on business, Kenny, I say,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a tech Text them right right right right now.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the donation. Keep talking your.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Ish all right. So, because this is my question, right,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: everybody think and people might react to it is maybe
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: it's a little greasy, a little slime either's. You know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: people say, well, teachers and doctors need more money. What
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: are we giving money to football for. Kenny Dillingham went
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: out there, he advocated for his own.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: You.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you grew up in a similar house to me.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I might have been watching some of these on my own,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: but I'll be watching Joel Olstein ask for money while
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: he's wearing a suit and driving a rolls. They as
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you ask for money because of works.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's a there's a reason why when you have
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you know, when your kids trying to do a drive
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: at school, why they ask people why they do walkathons, jogathons,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: jump rope the thions and they ask people for money
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: because it works. There's a reason why they have fundraising banquets.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why you get emails from Donald Trump,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, whoever else donate to save the world, to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: save the country. Like, there's a reason because it works.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: When kreflow Dollar says, if God wants me to have
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: a plane, who's gonna stop God?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly exactly, And I'm pretty sure that God wants
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: me to have a plane too. I know it, I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: know it. I believe a.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Perfect segment because somebody needed a plane to keep their quarterback.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And that's your former defensive coordinator, mister Tosh Lupoy, who
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: is the new head coach of the cal Golden Bears. George,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: did you see this interview with Ari and Andy with
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Toash Lupoy talking about going out to Hawaii to keep JKS.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes I did. And I have to applaud Tosh
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Lupoy for this, because when you drop your pride and
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you know what you need and you go get it,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you should be applauded. Would you would? How is Dan
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Lanning looked at for showing up for driving from Kansas
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: to pitt to sit out there and essentially beg for
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a job. What does that look like? That looks like
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: a man who's motivated for his family, right, Yeah, that
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: is looked at as honorable. Tash Lupoi introductory press conference
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: at CAL immediately flies to Hawaii because his quarterback is
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: in Hawaii and he knows Miami LSU. All sorts of
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: schools are calling around sniffing around him because they won
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: a He was a true freshman quarterback, so you should
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: have him at least for two years, and he's shown
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that he can spin it. He flies straight to Hawaii,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: goes to go see Jared Kiwi soccerport Telly and then
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how to. Couldn't get the man
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: a hotel room or something at least for a couple
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: of hours or he wants to save the budget, but
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I know the weather is nice out in white Man.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Slept on a bench, got a nap on a bench,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and then flew back. So that's ten hours flying to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: make sure that your team is intact. That is the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: type of dogged recruiting why he was able to pull
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: players from Oregon in the transfer portal and why will
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Stein got zero. And it's not a not knock on
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: will Stein because he's a good coach, but he's not
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the same type of recruiter that that Tash Lupoy is.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Tash Lupoi is in the talent acquisition business. He's the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: guy if you get in the room, he'll close it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: If you get in the room, listen, bodies will be
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: buried and nobody will ever know what I happened. That's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: who Tash is. Tash is the guy that you want
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to take with you. If you gotta go do something
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: fun and good and it's hard work. If you gotta
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: go dig it, dig a ditch, you want Tash witch you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: If you gotta go dig a ditch and in throw
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: somebody in it, you want Tash witching.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I never really thought about that, Like Cooper Perry going
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: into the portal for Oregon a kid you like a
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: lot of kid, I like a lot And he chooses
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: to go with his defensive coordinator instead of head out
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: and play in the SEC for his offensive coordinator. But
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: it just goes to show you. I mean, there is
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of thought out there, George, that the age
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: of the dogged recruiter is over. That on personality and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: payment you can be good. And this has been one
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: of your biggest beefs with Dean Sanders at Colorado, that
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you can never be too big for the job. Just
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: because tash Lupoy got his throne doesn't mean that people
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: are going to approach him. He still has to go
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: out and get people. And I do think that there
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: is still room for that personal touch. I've asked you
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: this before, George. If you could save five percent every
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: time you go to the grocery store. But in going
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: to the grocery store, you completely eliminate any opportunity to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: interact with any other human being. That no matter how
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: much stuff you have in your cart, you have to
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: go through self checkout. You can't ask anybody where anything is,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you can't use any human help. Is that five percent
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: worth it to you.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: No, no, God no, I don't even like self checkout.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I prefer for for humans to help me. This is
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the job, this is what I've grown accustomed to. I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: don't want to like, I'm not a what is jen whatever?
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: That want to have no interaction with other humans. I'm
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: not him, I'm not him.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: There.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, how are you, how's your family? Blah blah blah,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: like yes, some some human interaction. And the idea that
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that recruiting is the lifeblood of the program, and the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: idea that you can just throw money at people. That
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't work because everybody's offering money, like it did, like
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and kids turned down more money to go to places
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: all the time. Like there's a lot of kids at
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Oregon signed that weren't that were not their top offer.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: They want to go play for Dan Lanning, and they
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL. They want to the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: things that that the school offers. They want those things.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Texas, Georgia, Miami. So all those kids
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that throwose schools get they didn't get them solely because
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of money, because everybody was offering them money everybody. So
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you gotta get out and hustle. Look at the look
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: at the college football Playoff. Is Ryan Day and his
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: staff like big time recruiters and will beat the streets. Yes, yeah,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Dan Landing at Oregon. Yes, Georgia. Yes, Kirby Smart and
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the coaches are doing this too, Mario Cristobaul animal, who
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: else is in the playoff? Indiana with with with with
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: with Kurt Signetti with their evaluation and they are relationship
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: people and all of that stuff, same same thing. Notre
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Dame with Marcus Freeman. This is why they don't have kids,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Dick Dad, zero de commitments. Those are relationships. Texas is
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: offering money. Texas A and M is offering money. The
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: USC is offering money that unless you get like there's
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: few times where they go where the highest paid, Like
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the kid Bowman there, there was talk that he didn't
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: even want to go to USC, that maybe he wanted
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: to go to Georgia more, but the bag was so
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: incredible that he couldn't turn it down. That's not That's
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: not what happens the vast majority of the time, right.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it comes down to if it comes down
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: to one hundred k here, one hundred K there, you're
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: going to go to the place that makes you feel
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the most wanted, yep, the most needed, the most necessary,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, shout out to Tash Loupoy. It is
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: almost March, George, which means that it's a good time
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to bring up college basketball. I know you, I know
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: you're a big basketball fan. I'm a big basketball fan.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny because when you and I are
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: on the phone, we are we talk basketball. When we
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: were on the show, we talked football. But it's nice.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: You don't always want to make your favorite things your job.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: You really don't like you want to hold some stuff
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: back for yourself. So a big basketball fan, you're a
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: big basketball fan. Jerome Tang, the head coach of Kansas State,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: got fired for cons with about nineteen million dollars left
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: on his contract. And the way I want to turn
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: around and make that about college football is, do you
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: think that if Kansas State, if in the little apple
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in Manhattan, if they get away with not having to
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: pay Jerome Tang a cent of what they owed him
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: for the rest of his contract just because he ran
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: his mouth and bad mouthed his players, do you think
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: that's going to change the way some of these college
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: football coaches act out here? In these streets, especially a
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: guy like Lane Kiffen. If you can lose your job
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and all of the money on your contract for just
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: speaking your mind, are we going to see some of
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: these college football coaches shut up for once?
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: You damn right, dude, You damn right. They will. But
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen ain't gole be one of them, because he
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: he will find a way to light his life on
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: fire historically, so so he'll keep running into the burning
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: building with no with with with no fire suit and
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: no oxygen mask on until until until somebody has to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: come in there and rescue him. And he was just
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: on the top twenty like most impressions in college football.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: They talking about me? Yes, yes, yes, So I.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Don't I do think that people are more careful by
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: what the things that they say, like college football coaches
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: are very buttoned up now. But at the same point
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in point in time, Tang took it a little further,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like Tang took it to like Mike Leech territory because
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I used to get mad at Mike Bleach too.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I used to get mad at Mike Leach too. That's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the one thing you bring up Mike Cleach. I actually,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I think there's definitely some revisionist history as far as
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Mike Leach being as beloved as he is. And you
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: know how hard I ride for guys from Arizona who's
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: on for Arizona or Wyoming because I was born in Wyoming.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Mike Leach is one of mine. He's from the state
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: of Wyoming. He never played college football. He was a lawyer.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: He went into college football. He had a lot of success.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: He's very innovative. He ruffled a lot of feathers, and
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: people don't seem to be willing to admit that he
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: would ruffle their feathers. He used to piss me off
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: all the time. We talked about it on this show plenty,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the stuff he's said about kids from California, and you
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: having kids in California, Like I just you know, they
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: got to worry about cleaning up their streets or whatever.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Ect I But do you think he would have been
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: better behaved if he knew that a university could turn
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: around to take food off his table? Or do you
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: think he's like Lane Kiffin where there is no price.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Listen, Lane Kiffin can sit up there and act all
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: he wants like that. There is I don't know how
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: much money I make, and there's not a price. Nah,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: there was a price. There was a price to go
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: to LSU. There's a price for his loyalty, waxually or
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: his presence. There's a price for his presence. I don't
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: know if there's a price for his loyalty, but there
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: is a price for his presence. And so I think
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the Tang will land on his feet somewhere because he
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: has been to the tournament. He's put out some good teams.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: But it's hard now. I mean, look at Mit Cronin
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: over there at UCLA. He just said some things that
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: people didn't like, and you know when he was talking
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: about Michigan State Students Section. And it's hard, especially when
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: you're not winning. And the Big Ten schedule is clearly
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: impacting Oregon, Washington, USC Listen, I don't know if these
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: teams ever win a Big Ten title game.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: So that's my my ultimate question for you is Jerome
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Tang might have lost nineteen million dollars speak in his mind.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: We'll see how this plays out, and doubt it.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I doubt this because if he gets paid this money
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: and they can't fire him for cause, oh Lord, have mercy.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my question for you. What amount
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: of money would it take for you to never talk
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: about college football and public ever? Again? You'd still talk
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: about it with your friends, but you can't put anything online.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: You can't reply to anybody. You can't tell anybody their
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: ideas sucked.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I can't tell I can't talk about Oregon.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Either, not publicly. No, no, like to your friends tech
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: like I you've got a group chat, but you can't
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: reply to.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Anybody asking me how much would it cost to shut up?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: To not to essentially get off of Twitter? And because
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I would have to delete my Twitter or you said
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: no temptation or I would have to wait way hold up,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And that means I can't even work in sports anymore.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh there, you cannot. You cannot bring up college
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: football in public.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'll just go all I would go all NBA or
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: or or all NFL and just never talk about it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: And somebody bringing bringing very like, listen, that is Baltimore.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: We don't we don't say that name. We don't even
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: talk about that that.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: You couldn't even say like that was Spencer Rattler from
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: South Carolina through that touchdown?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: No I'd be like, yeah that was a former be like, yo,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: that was uh Pinnacle High Schools.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: We don't even know where this man, this man just
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: popped up. Okay, So number amount of money.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, based upon future earning potential and everything else,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: probably thirty million, thirty million. And then I would go
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: all into another sport so they can ban me from
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: that too, and then I'll take I'll just keep taking
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: taking Jimbo Fisher buyouts buddy until I until I until
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I end up full politics.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's the path. That's why the Clay Travis was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: one of the number one number one you can type
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden has dementia and be a college football influencer.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: How about that text?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: How about that text Shannit Terry. But I was like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Clay Travis, question mark, he's a political grifter. Now he's no,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and mind I did a college football show, College Football
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: College Football Countdown on Fox Sports one with Clay Travis.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: So so this is not a like, oh, you just
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: hate No. I actually liked Clay in the time, actually,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: and I really do believe that Clay's a smart person.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: He's a lawyer, Like he's an actual smart person and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: smart people make the most dangerous people. Yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is like, I don't with no
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: disrespect to anybody's politics. If you're conservative, cools, so is
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: where everybody where I'm from everybody, it's not you know,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: it is what it is human beings. We all have
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: different perspectives. But if if ninety nine percent of my
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: poster are about one thing and the other one is
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: about college football and most of my impressions come from
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the ninety nine other things, come on.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Man, Yes he doesn't show with buck about not college football. Yes,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: he just so clearly, Yelle, Tennessee.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Technically, Leah Thomas was a college swimmer, so maybe he
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: is a college sports influencer since that's the only thing
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: he talks about. But all right, so, but so, I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: will say this, if somebody offered me ten thousand dollars
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: to shut up about college football, I would sign the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: contract and then I'd immediately tweet about college football and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I'd give the money back. Just get sued it just like, yeah,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not so good with the rules. I'm not saying.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: You would dare you miss an whole situation and figure
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: it out in court.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: They'd be like, it's been three months. Why hasn't he
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: cashed this check in case? Yep, if I die, If
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I die, my wife cashed a check, because then there's
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: no way. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh, all right, what's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: next week? I guess we got to talk about Georgia
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: getting players arrested. I don't want to focus on the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: fact that Georgia got two more players arrested for traffic violations.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I don't want that to be the focus. Chris Cole,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Derek at Kinnigbond. Sorry, guys, it just at this point
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: people aren't going to remember your name anyway because you're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: not pioneers exactly like you got arrested in Athens. I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: actually want to talk about this. So both players arrested,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: they're both linebackers. They were speeding and reckless driving, which
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: is not funny in Athens at this point, it's just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: not it's you can't right. Cole was booked at ten
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: at night, Kinnigbond was booked at ten thirty at night.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And I mean, these are driving offenses that triggered being custody.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: George the bail what do you think the amount of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: bail money that it took to get these two Georgia
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: line backers out of jail? What would be sensible for
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: getting arrested? Okay?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, So so initially right I was thinking, oh, probably
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: like five thousand dollars. But then I thought about it
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: that like if you get a dui, you essentially can
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: get or you get you know, drunken in public and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: there was no you know, physical stuff that went on.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: You could just get o ard. We release on your
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: own recognizance. So after I thought about it, I was like,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: maybe like a thousand bucks, five hundred bucks, thousand bucks.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: The two combined, and I don't I do not have
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: any information as to why they are separate amounts. The
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: minimum bail for Chris Cole was twenty six dollars and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: the minimum bail for tearing a kidding bund was thirty
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: nine dollars, a total of sixty seven.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, So for sixty seven dollars, will they allow you
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: to build yourself out? Because you can't bail yourself out
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: of jail, so like somebody else has to be a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: part of that process. So I wonder if for sixty
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: seven dollars they will allow you to do it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: If I went to Athens lock up and I was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: there to bail Chris Cole out of jail, okay, and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I laid down a twenty and a ten.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Am I am I being paid asking for for four
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: ones back? No?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I need my change?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Can I get four dollars?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: You don't tell the law to keep their change.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Get out of here. Do you imagine you imagine going
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: to bail them out? And they turn around the digital
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: reader and it's like, it's gonna ask you a question.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: That's everybody, everybody in the service industry. It's just gonna
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: ask you a question.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: It's gonna it's not it's not it's not me. They're
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question. Yeah, the machine wants to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: ask you something.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Just a twenty percent on bail, oh my. But you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: might also get like a frequent they might've got like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: a frequent bailout discount, like at a punch card for
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: the for Athens PD God dang man. Okay. At this point,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: and they've only had this is gonna sound stupid, but
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: they've only had five arrests in the last like thirteen months.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: So it's this is.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: A progress, progress, not perfection.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, for lack of a better term, slowing down
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: it happens.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Wow, I see what you do? Right there?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Is it even humanly possible for Kirby Smart to lose
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: his job over this?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Not as long as he's winning football games. It ain't.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: As long as he's making the college football playoffs. Not
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: and as long as it's going down. No, no, no,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: he would And I mean this with no like insensitivity.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: He can't have another incident where where where somebody dies. No,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna become a problem. And then and really, truthfully,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: the main issue is is that it hasn't happened to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the right people, right and and that's an unfortunate part
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: about life, is that people only care about gun safety
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: and something something when it or you know, roller coaster safety,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: like in uh, it was in the Midwest a few
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: years ago, where it was there's this water ride that
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that was deemed unsafe, but they didn't fix it, and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: then somebody in the city council or somebody's uh, somebody
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: in their family died. Ride gets shut down. All of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: these other things have to happen, and it's unfortunate that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: it has to be the right person who had happened
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: to for things to actually change. But that's what it
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: is in Athens. Like like, let let the governor daughter
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: get hit by or the lieutenant governor's daughter get or
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: son get hit by a Georgia player who was speeding.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen to Kirby Smart?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: He's gonna come under a lot of heat.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Right. It just sucks that it wasn't enough to And
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I'm also not one of those people. I'm gonna blame
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: the coach for what players want to do. Like they're young,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: they got money, they run real fast, They're gonna want to.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've listened to some of your stories, George,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: A little bit of an off road vehicle in Mexico
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: type stuff in the in the NFL, maybe risking your paycheck.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit. So Okay, So when I re
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: signed in Jacksonville, I bought a CLS five point fifty
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz. Then I got it rentacked. I had like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: seven hundred horsepower. One of the first things I did
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: is I went on nine a in floor and proceeded
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to drive one hundred and twenty miles an hour. So
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: but I did not get pulled over, thank god. But
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: it was very unsafe, and I could have died. I've
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: never been that fast again, I've been one hundred miles
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: an hour on a motorcycle, but then I crashed on
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: a motorcycle later. So like, it's and I don't do
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: these things. So I understand that I walked through the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: rain drop. So I understand where these kids like, because
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: at that point in time, I still felt invisible.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Ralph.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I did not believe I could die. I knew eventually
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I would die, but I didn't think I could die
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: any like. I didn't think that I bro listen, how
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: stupid that this is. I was like, because when when
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: I was in high school, I was like, Ooh, I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: won't wear my seat belt all the time because I'm
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: cool because if I see an accident coming, I'll grab
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: my seat belt and then I'll just buckle it in.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sound logic.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I can't beat the only person who thought that idiocy.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: But I'm one hundred percent sure after yesterday, that's how
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball thinks. Buddy, I live out here. He'd been
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: terrorizing these streets.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: For years, bro Bro, he drives like a maniac.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yesterday it and maybe maybe that's what it takes.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately for Georgia, it seems like losing a member
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: of your staff, losing a member of your team is
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: not enough. But but is it Kirby Smart's fault? Do
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: you think Kirby Smart Smart's not telling them? Like do
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: you think it's not mentioned more at this school than
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: any other school? But at some point, like the responsibility
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: goes somewhere, and you're right if it ends up? If
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: did they end up hitting a bisy some Well, didn't
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: somebody two years ago run into a house.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Like the front of the house so many I believe
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: that that may have happened, but I don't remember exactly.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I just I'm saying I've been to Athens a few times.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how you could some twisty roads
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: and forests and woods and it just seems like maybe
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: not a good idea, but you got young, you got money.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: These are the same kids that jumped off the swing
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: set to see if they could set a record, Like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: that's just the that's what it's like being a guy.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: We used to do cherry drops and death drops off
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the off the bar like just crazy. Yeah, oh I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: can't play the Urban Meyer clip right right, right, right now,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to hear it.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I just want to ask you one question.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: So Alex Smith went on a podcast and he said
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: that Urban Meyer, when he was had coaching Utah used
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: to make the quarterbacks wrestle the linebackers in Matt drills.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: And so I need two things from you, George. Can
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: you explain people what a matt drill is? Uh? And
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: what would you have done when you were at Oregon
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: if they put you in matt drills against the special teamers.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Against what? Well, I beat up one of our one
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: of our punters my freshman year, so I would have
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: so you know how that would have gone. But it
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: was not my fault. He started this and he wouldn't quit.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: He was actually the backup punter and and he just
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't let let up, and so you know happened. Things happen.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: But anyways, so a Matt drill, it's essentially like a
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: wrestling match until somebody quits.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: It's like to get off the mat, and like one
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: person's job is to get off and one person's job
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: is to keep them on. You watched the University of
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Florida documentary. You saw how hard those guys worked. Yep,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: you heard this story from Alex Smith. He's talking about
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: being an eighteen year old quarterback wrestling return missionaries. We're
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: twenty four.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: He because, and I get it, Urban Meyer. He wanted
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: to know who your dogs were. He was like, who
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: is going to bite when like when they get backed
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: in the corner, who is gonna bite? And who's just
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: gonna just give up? And I would question to be.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Honest, be honest, George, could you have played for Urban
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Meyer at Utah or Florida based on everything you've seen in.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: One hundred I wouldn't have liked it like some of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: the other players did. But I was just so hyper competitive.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: And this is actually like where I believe a man's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: strengths flow from the same well as weaknesses. One of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: the things that is the best things about me is
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: that I refuse to quit. And one of the best
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: and one of the worst things about me is that
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know when to quit. I don't know when
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: to stop and just start all the throw it in
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: the trash and start all over. I'm getting better at it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: And this goes for relationships and other things where like
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: things I've stated things way too long when I was younger,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: because I just didn't want to quit. I'm just a fighter,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: and so I would rather I would rather die than quit,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: like I don't know how to quit. They're the difference
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: in your body failing you and you saying I can't
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: take this anymore. Like I watched a show called Alone.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's one of one of my favorite
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: shows where you they put them out in a remote location.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: They're literally alone, and they have to survive for as
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: many days as they can. The winter wins. The person
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: who survives the longest wins half million dollars. And there
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: are sometimes where people are in cushy situations like they're
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: they're they're catching fish, they homeboys. Timber killed a moose,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: everything else, and he wanted the last two people left.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: He had more resources he had, but he just decided.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know how long the other
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: dude is gonna be be out here, So I'm done
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: eighty three days, Ralph, and the other dude was about
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: to crack two, and he made it eighty four because
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: they went to go get him. Ralph. I would have
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: been out there until they pulled me out. There is
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: no tap I mean out there. There are some times
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: where like people have had physical things where like they
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: had a bowel obstruction or something like. That's that's different.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Like you don't have a choice if your body fails you.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: But if you're just out there, like I don't want
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: to do this no more. I mean I get that too,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: but but like you're almost there, just just fight the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: fight until it's over.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's the until it's overpart that I wonder
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: if if many of us understand I got. I got
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: a very wise friend who says who says to me,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: directed it to me once. He's like, you know, the
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: point of fighting is to win, right, Yeah, He's like,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: it's not to keep fight. You don't fight to fight.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: He's like, if you want to fight ten years ago,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: why are you still swinging exactly? Like it's very very smart.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Dan Dan Lanning says something to Oregon, and I know
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the other coaches say similar, similar things, but I love it,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: says He tells him, Yo, we're going out there a
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: battle for four quarters or for however long it takes.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: So four quarters or however long it takes. If it's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: six overtimes, if it's eight overtimes, that's however long it
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: however long it takes.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: So do you.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Do you.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Think would you tell the modern era player, like if
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: you knew that there was somebody out there that was
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: close to what urban Meyer was at Utah at Florida.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: First of all, can that type of coaching happen now?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: And if it was happening, if he knew it was happening,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: do you think kids should gravitate toward that over something
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: else just to find out about themselves.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I do believe that everybody should have to do hard
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: things right, that hard things build character. Hard things are
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: paramount for you to be able to be successful in life.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I also believe that that what urban Meyer was doing
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: at that time would never fly today. Kids just wouldn't
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: sign up for it at at at a high rate.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Some of it was abusive. He overlooked stuff that that
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: that God should have been suspended for. He put winning
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: over everything else, and you can't do that nowadays, Like
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: there's too much responsibility that a coach has to have.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: That's why I didn't work in Jacksonville. Hmmm, because he
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: tried to kick the punter and kick the kicker and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: all this. It ain't gonna work val it ain't gonna
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: work because if you kick my son, I'm showing up
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: at your office. Homie.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Ye that's fair, that's fair, all right, So get it
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: over with. Let's end the show. Get over you just
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: bring your dumb thing to the forefront.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I want to see if you know what
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I know, I know what it is. So what is it?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Ralph?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: How is George being vindicated today?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Ralph? Well, two things you this this has nothing. I
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: know what it is that you want to talk about.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Number One, one, you're not vindicated because this person's opinion
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: is that something was good and now isn't and your
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: opinion is that it was never good. So number one,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: you're not vindicated. Number two on the show notes, when
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: you sent over your surprise topic, you misspelled vindicated, so
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: maybe you are vindicated.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: You're a dirty dog dude.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not a good speller, and we were just talking
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: and I just phonetically spelled. I spelled it. I spelled
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: like my six year old spells like you never know,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: like they're trying to spell something, so they just put
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: it up like it makes sense. But you're like, that's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: not actually how you spell it. For worse, that I
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: don't that I know how to use. I don't know words,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to use properly, But that doesn't
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: mean that I know how to spell them.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that I'm glad that I upset you.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Now go ahead and claim your victory. Go for it.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Let's go Okay. So by that description, I do believe
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: that Ralph no what I'm talking about. So I have
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: been of the opinion that Reese's pieces suck. Reese's peanut
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: butter cups, steak, chocolate, and peanut butter have no business together,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: not even in a protein bar, not even in a
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: in a in a shake, none of that. And yes,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a chocolate snob.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: No, you're just doctor Umar of sugar products.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: So and there is vindication for me because Brad Reese,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: the inventor of Reese's Peanut butter cup's grandson, is criticizing
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: the Hershey Company, which now owns it, saying that they
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: have quietly been replacing the candy's flagship chocolate and peanut
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: butter ingredients with with manufactured chemical nonsense. That it's not
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: real peanut butter, it is some bs chocolate and you
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: know what that might be. Why I don't like it
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: and why I think it's hot garbage is because they
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: are using inferior products. You if you make me a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: homemade version of these, I might like it, but they
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: have scarred everything. Dude, If you give me a and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: the same thing with butterfingers too, if you, Ralph, if
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: you when when kids go out for Chris, I'm sorry
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: for Halloween and they get candy in all of this stuff.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: When why I didn't trigger treat as a kid, But
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: if I had, and you gave me twenty reciss pieces
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: in the bags and all this stuff. If I were starving, Ralph,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I would have to be near death to eat this.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: I would trade you every I would trade you fifty
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: recent peanut butter cups for one Almond Joy. Almond Joy
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: is a superior candy. Two resist it is this is
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I and people come back with, hey, yo, this is
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: the most It's one of the top selling candids of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: all time. That doesn't make it good because people like
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: bad things every single day. So yes, vindication for your boy.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: They're using garbage products and tarnish the legacy of a
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: great product that clearly people were enjoying since to what
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: the twenties and now it has been dumbed down to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: some there. This is the pink slime version. You know
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: how to burgers were using pink slime. They have essentially
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: pink slimed Reese's peanut buttercups. And clearly that's why I don't.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I can't fool with them. So, yes, vindication for you boys.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: It feels good.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, what do you want from me here?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: To just take it right? So two things. Thing. Number one,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: you're on the same Internet that I'm on. Right, So
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: your girl Marjorie Taylor Green, she's out here and people
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, she switched side. She's one of us.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Now she did switch sides. She's not one of you.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: She disagrees with you about one thing. Man, Reese says
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: that Reese's peanut buttercups suck. Now you're not on your side.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Yes he is.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: He's probably so proud of his grandfather's invention. The thing
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: you've been slandering your entire life.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Slandering it because of what he's saying.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: And number two, I'm still gonna eat that garbage, man.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: You know garbage. You probably eat the Cereal too. Don't
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: you give me the wind Dex flavored Recey's peanut butter cups.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know his chemicals. Whatever I got, I'm not
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: trying to stick around till I'm ninety.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking of this, I saw a video the other day
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: of Nick fuint test and I was like, and it
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: made me remember and because it made me remember the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: like because you brought up the Marjorie Taylor Green thing, right,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: and it made me think about something that I say
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: all the time, don't discount a message because you don't
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: like the messenger. And so I watched the video and
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, he kind of made a little
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: bit of sense, and then I felt like icky inside.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: I just the idea that you're over there with your
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: arm around Brad Reeves being like, yeah, me and Brad,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: we we both hate Reese's being buttercups. We do be like.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Because he does hate it now clearly he clearly hates
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: what they're putting out, and I hate what they're putting out.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: So we're simpatico. We're like, I'm on the top though.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: You're the You are the he's the Reese and you're
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: the piece.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, so I was like, and and I'm and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm on top. But then this made me think
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: about because we've been watching the Winter Olympics, the dual,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: the dual sledding, whose idea was it to be like, yo, yo,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: we should both slid on top of each other and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go butt butt tont.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Probably allm enjoy fans.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, this podcast is now over. You guys, make sure
• 1:28:15
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• 1:28:18
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• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: next thing, we gotta talk about the college football Playoff,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: this potential expansion again, right, and this time to twenty
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: four teams.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I have been an expansion man from the beginning. From
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: the beginning when it was at two teams, I was like,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: that is clearly not enough and not representative, because you
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: have teams that finish undefeated and teams that are clearly
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: very good at that point in time that should be
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: able to compete for a national championship. Then you go
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: to four teams, then you go to eight excuse me,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: then you go to twelve teams. Now they're talking about
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: a twenty four team expansion, and to me, this is
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: a bridge way too far, way too far. There are
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: only sixty eight Power four teams, including Notre Dame, and
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: we want to put thirty four percent of them in
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: How was that exclusive territory? So that's first thing. But
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I understand why people want to do this because they're like, yo,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: there's so many teams that can win. Now there's parody.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: All it is the eight seed one last year when
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: well the year before, when Ohio State won. Now, Ohio
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: State's president came out and he made some very good
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: points about this. He said that number one, that a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: team that a team like Ohio State or Oregon think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: about Oregon a year ago. Oregon's the number one team
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: in the country. You have four teams in the playoff.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Ohio State is ranked eighth, and that's probably the only
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: team that could have beaten Oregon. So Oregon ends up
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: with a national championship if you only have a fourteen playoff.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: But I was never four and okay with just a
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: fourteen playoff, And I didn't love the twelve because I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: believe the buys are absolutely awful. You've only out of
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: eight games with teams with buys, only one of them
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: is one. That's an alarming stat and granted it is
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: still a small sample size, but that ain't it. Well,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: now you got this twenty fourteen playoff that is being
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: proposed by the Big Tens commissioner, mister Tony Patiti, and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: he's talking about having this in place by the twenty
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: twenty nine season. And this is the newest idea from
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: the Big ten think tanks that would feature twenty three
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: bids that would be a signed via at large selection
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: with one automatic bid for the group of five. Now,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: how do we think that this is going to work? People?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: How do we believe that this is going to work?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Because if they are all at large bids, let's just
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: blow this out for a second. The SEC. There are
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: people who believe that the SEC is under ranked according
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: to mister Greg Sanki, their commissioner, but of course he's
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: gonna say that. And then there are people who live
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: in reality, in the real world who know that the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: SEC at this point in time, we're not talking about
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: the old days, because the old days are the old
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: days that at this point in time, they are getting
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: way more credit than what they deserve. And you would
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: have ten, at nine or ten of the SEC teams
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: be in this twenty four team playoffs. So there is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: no advantage for the Big ten or even any of
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: the other conferences to sign up for this, because do
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: we really believe the ACC or the Big twelve are
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: gonna get a fair shake? No, right, and the idea,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and then there's the autobid idea that one conference, because
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: of their history, they should get so much because of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: the amount of national championships they've won. How does that
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: make any sense? It doesn't. It should be based upon rankings.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there's only a
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: small percentage of teams that realistically have a chance to
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: win a national championship. And the issue is is that
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: money continues to get in the way of good decision making.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Money continues to get in the way of good decision
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: making because they're looking at these games. Oh my gosh,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: so much more inventory to the college football playoff that
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: means more money. Well, the biggest issues sitting in front
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: of college football right now are the calendar, the transfer portal, nil,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: and coaches leaving during the season. Those are the four
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: biggest problems that you have. And instead of fixing those
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: four problems now you're trying to stack another significant problem
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: on and then the solution is, oh, well, it's not
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: going to extend the season any longer, it'll fit within it. Well,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the issue is is that the season is already too long.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: It needs to be done January first. So then the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: idea that this twenty four team playoff is going to
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: solve problems, it's not. It is going to just reinforce
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: the bias that lives out in the world. So there
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: needs to be some sort of tangible way to do this.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: And guess what, I have a solution. Got a solution
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: for you. But first let me run down for how
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: this whole college football playoff would have worked. Here's the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: twenty four team field from last year. You would have
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: had Indiana playing the winner of USC and Arizona. Arizona
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: had no chance to win a national championship and neither
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: did USC. Why do we have them in there? Then
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: you got Alabama playing JMU. Okay, we know how that
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: win ends, but I'm not mad at that because they
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: would have earned their way in Okay, fine BYU in Houston,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Texas and Tulane Vanderbilt. And now we're just playing games
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: for the sake of playing games instead of having a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: real competitive matchups, and people did tell you, well, they
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: do it in the FCS. Yes they do, Yes they do.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: But the money is different, the situations are different, and
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: that's just how it will work. So here is what
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: the twenty four team playoff the way that it would
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: impact the rest of the regular season. There would be
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: no more conference championship games. Okay, fine, I'm not mad
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: at that. There would be no auto bids outside of one,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: so it'd be a full meritocracy, which is, if we're
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: being honest, sort of a cocky move by the Big
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: ten because they feeling themselves after three Natties over three years.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: But you're still not gonna get the majority of the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: teams because of the bias that is related to the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: SEC schedules, even though they can't be that difficult because
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: they're overvalue in teams like Mississippi State, a win at Kentucky,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: all of this way overrated wins. Now, the one thing
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: that it does solve is that bowl games are already
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: dying off. The Detroit Bowl is already gone, the Bahamas Bowl,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: LA Bowl, those are already gone. But this would actually
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: kill half of the existing bowls in year one. So
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: everybody that's worried about players opting out. Bowl games are
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: even gonna become even less relevant, and you're gonna have
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: people opt out of this. You're gonna have people opt
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: out of the College Football Playoff. If you've got a
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: first round pick that's playing at Georgia Tech and he's like, bro,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: we have no chance to win a national championship. We
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: are the twenty two seed. Now I'm gonna get ready
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: for the draft. Same thing at Houston or at Arizona.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: You think them dudes are gonna be playing in this
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: game with an additional chance to get hurt when they
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: know that they don't have a chance to win. Answer
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: to that is a resounding no. And trying to put
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: thirty four percent of power forward teams in that don't
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: make sense, not even a little bit. And truthfully, we
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: already know how non Big ten and SEC teams usually
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: faire in the College Football Playoff because outside of Miami's
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: run this year and then Notre Dames last year because
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: they're an independent, and then you look at the Clemson
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: pre transfer portal run, non Big ten and SEC teams
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: are three and twenty one in the College Football Playoff.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: What good is it gonna do to open up the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: college football playoff to a ten and three Houston team.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Are they really gonna have a chance, No, maybe to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: win one game, But now we're putting too much a
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: load on the players, adding additional games when they are
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: not even employees. We don't even want to cask, you know,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: classify them as employees. But now we want them to
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: play more games because it's professional football for everybody else around.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Think about that. It's professional football for the athletic directors,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: for the coaches, for the sponsors, for the athletic director,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: for the school, for everybody, for the networks, it is
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: pro football. Because now then you keep adding games, those
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: are healthcare issues, more lawsuits coming. You have to collectively
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: bargain all of these things. But you know, what kind
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: of sense does that make to take pages out of
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the professional books in the way that they've been doing.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean and think about this. What
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: incentive would the G five have to enter their best
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: team in to an even more crowded field, Because assuming
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: that it's not just Notre Dame every year, wouldn't it
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: make more sense for the G five G six teams
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: to create their own playoff? At that point, in time,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, listen, We're not just going to continue
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: to sign up for this for your little charity, for
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: your little one seed handout. No, no, So here is
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: my solution for this, because I believe that the College
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Football Playoff to determine the college Football Playoff, that the
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: end season schedules need to change because there does need
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: to be either. Well, first, there needs to be some
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: schedule uniformity. That's the first thing, and not this nebulous
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: We create our own schedule because of what we think
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: it's best for us. We got USC thinking what's best
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: for them, not trying to play Notre Dame outside of
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Week zero. You have Indiana doing what's best for them
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: not playing a Power four opponent in their non conference.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: You had the SEC doing what's best for them. Pretty
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: much everybody only playing nine Power four games. Now you
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: got Alabama talking about canceling Ohio State. So here is
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the solution. We get down to eight conference games, and
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: then we would play three Power four games against the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: other conferences. So if you are Rutgers and you're in
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten, you're gonna play one non conference game
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: against the SEC, against the against the ACC, and against
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: the SEC as well the Big twelve ACC at SEC
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: and if you are Alabama, you're gonna play a game
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: against the Big Ten, Big twelve and the ACC. So
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna get an enormous amount of data points
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: to be able to judge strength of schedule and strength
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: of record and any other uh, you know, analytic data
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: that you want to put together. You're gonna be able
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: to do it without just having a small sample size
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: to try to do it or trying to rely on
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: historical data for something that is right now and then
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: for your last game, because that's eight plus three, then
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: you can schedule an FCS team, you can schedule a
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: G six team, or you can schedule another power forward
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: team for some extra bonus points. Those are the options
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: because we gotta stop with this idea that oh listen, listen, listen.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: We know the SEC schedules are tough. Know the Big
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Tens is the best conference. The ACC stinks except for
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: when they beat the SEC more times than the last
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: two years up. Yeah, yeah, but that does count, and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: the Big twelve way overrated. Well, we will have the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: opportunity to actually see for ourselves. That's what we'll be
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: able to do. There won't be no guessing, there won't
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: be no asking. It will be clearest day who the
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: best conference is and who had the toughest strength of schedules.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Easy work. And then the other option is go to
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: a super conference schedule. That's it, where you don't even
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: worry about the G six teams. They create their own
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: playoffs and then you let the big boys do it.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: And that, my friends, is exactly why what happened with
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: SMU going to the ACC where you've had Sack State
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: going to the MAC, and is exactly why teams are
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: doing this right now, why teams are jumping ship so
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: and this is exactly why Sack State going to the
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: MAC conference shouldn't matter to you, because the MAC is
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: adding an FCS program as a football only member starting
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: July first. Now, the reason why this matters is because
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: you are going to watch conferences continue to position themselves
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: and schools position themselves for the future. Because this right now,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: this time that we are living in, right now, this
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: small window from twenty twenty four, so I'm gonna give
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: it to about twenty twenty seven. That is your last chance.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: It is your last chance to put yourself in a
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: position to level up. And that's exactly what sax State
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: is doing. They have apparently raised a bunch of money
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: and they are going to spend that money. And and
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: they're because they wanted in the big they wanted out
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: of the FCS. They wanted to do something exactly like
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: you had North Dakota State just leave the FCS the
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Big Sky and go into the Mountain West I'm sorry,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: going to the back twelve and then you got yeah,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: and then you have sax State doing this. You had
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: SMU go to the ACC and SMU going to the
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: ACC is a direct correlation. How desperately that they wanted
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: in is the same way that sax State was. Because
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: the cost of entrance for sax State into the MAC
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars to Pete down and the all in
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: and the total cost is gonna be about twenty three
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: million dollars because Sacramento State would also need to so
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: out of that eighteen million dollars, they're gonna pay six
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: million up front this year, and then Sacramento State is
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: also gonna need to pay five million dollars to the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: NCAA to move up from the FCS to the FBS.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Think about that, So you got North Dakota State moving
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: to the Mountain West cost twelve and a half million dollars.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Northern Illinois paid two million dollars to join the Mountain
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: West because they want in the big boy crew. So
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: you got Sack State, who is not gonna be happy
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: staying in the MAC. And think about this. The MAC
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: is requiring sax State because all the other schools one
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: of the other schools are within fifteen hundred miles probably
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: of Sack State. So sax State has to pay all
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: of the travel costs for the rest of maction to
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: go out to California. Every time a team goes out
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: to California, Sacramento State is on the hook for their
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: travel costs. That's how badly that they want it in.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: And they are not even taking a share of the
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: conference revenue, which is the exact same thing that SMU
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: did to join the ACC. It's it and you see
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: how well that that's worked out for SMU. They've already
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: made the College Football Playoff, they are recruiting better, and
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: now their donors believe that they can turn them into
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: a champion. They could turn them to a champion. Legally,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: this ain't even got it. Got to be the Pony
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Express where everything's getting paid under the table. They can
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: do it legitimately the right way. Now, one caveat is
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: is that the Hornets will not be eligible for bowls
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: for the next two seasons. And remember James Madison ran
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: into this and they tried to get an exemption when
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: they could have made to College Football Playoff a couple
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: of years ago. NCAA's like nahnpout rules of rules. Rules
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: of rules. Now, I will say there is one caveat
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: to it as well, is that the bold restriction could
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: be waived if there are not enough Bowl eligible teams.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: So that's it, and they won't be able to compete
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: for the MAC Championship in the first two seasons either.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Now here's what's interesting as well is what the president
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: of Sacramento State, Luke would said, said, this is an
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: historic moment for SAX State Bowl leaping to the future,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: that this changing classification. It's a declaration of who we
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: are and where we're going. We're elevating our university, our
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: student athletes, and the greater Sacramento region. So this is
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: a big deal to them. They are trying to find
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: a way to take from where they are to go
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, and in life, you can't be mad at that.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: You have to be you know, happy with people trying
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: to use their upward mobility and use their resources to
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: do something different and do something special for them in
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: their life. All Right. It's funny because I always believe
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: that you either adapt or die, right, that you either
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: adapt in situations or you get left all the way
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: behind and you will get run the hell over. Well,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what has happened in the situation with me
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: and jersey patches. And when I'm talking about jersey patches,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: when you look at your favorite NBA team, Nike logo
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: team logo patch, that's just more money for the end
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: for the business, more money for that individual team. Okay,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: So I was one hundred percent against it. I was
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: against it in the in the the NFL has resisted
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: it so far, the NBA has it the you know,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: MLB sold their entire walls for the most part, so
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: now there their walls look like minor league fields. They've
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: resisted it on the jersey so far, so is the NFL.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: But now we're getting it in college football. And mind you,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: I was completely against it. But the thing that just
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: stands out to me more than anything with these jersey
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: patches is I don't understand them. I do not understand
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: these jersey patches and why we have brands that we
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: don't even use in the United States on these jersey patches.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: So you have LSU here, who is now sponsored by
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Woodside Energy, You're like, okay, cool. It would be different
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: if if you in your local neighborhood had energy choices.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Now I do know in Texas that you have a
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: couple choices, but in California and in most other states,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: your energy choice is very limited by your area, and
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: it's typically a monopoly in your area where you live.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: So let's look at Woodside Energy. Because I was like,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: who the hell is Woodside Energy? So I got to
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: google it. It is an Australian energy company with natural
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: gas interests in Louisiana. So how does that factor into
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: normal people's life? And it becomes the first company to
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: become a Jersey patch sponsor of a major's college major
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: college football program. So the tweets have have had me,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: they've made me laugh, right because being the first massive
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: publicity for Woodside Energy that this whole LSU thing is.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: But if you go to their social media, you would
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: think that for Woodside Energy that this was no big
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: deal for them none, because every athletic LSU athletic program
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: they have tagged Woodside Energy in promo tweets, and whoever
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: is running Woodside Energy's x account as of noon the
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: day after the announcement hadn't even posted or reposted a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: single solitary thing about LSU. So why does this make sense?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: So either somebody at Woodside Energy wants to pump money
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: into LSU because it makes no good business sense. It's
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: not like you can go out and make a Woodside
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: Energy purchase if you are an everyday LSU Tiger supporter.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: So this definitely is either about positive pr and maybe
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: a little political goodwill in the state over any mutual
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: benefit for the actual sponsor. So this goes to go
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: show that whether Woodside Energy, I bet you that they're
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: up for some contracts, that they are up for something
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: that the governor or somebody at the state level has
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: to approve of, and that's why they're paying for this
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Jersey Patch Because aside from that, how does that make
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: any sense? And I know this as college football's truthteller.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta bring it out to the forefront. It would
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: be different if you put pepsi on there, right, makes sense,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: sell more pepsis. If you are a you know, if
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: you're Nike, it makes sense your brand is out there,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: sell more Nikes. Hell, even if you are Amazon, you're advertising,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: make people sell go to Amazon more. Team. Whatever a
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: product is that you could use, even if it was
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Tony Satchery's what a seasoning. Whatever, it is something that
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: you can actually that the company can see a return
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: on investment. But that's why they're getting something back for it.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: We just don't know what it is. So I'm wondering
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: what the next brand of what school is gonna be
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: next with their jersey patches and what it's gonna be.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Because if it's PayPal, if it's Venmo, all of those
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Bank of America, all of these things, they
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: make sense. This makes no sense people, none at all.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: And you know, facts or facts, all right. The next
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: thing we got to talk about this is a sweet story.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: I want you guys to see how big the show
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Traders is. This is a sweet story. The next thing
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: is with me and my family because we've been watching
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics on Peacock. We've been watching them on
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: TV everything, And I, for one, love watching a couple
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: of sports. I love watching Bob's lad I love watching
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: you know, snowboard tricks, love watching curling. Curling is my
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: absolute favorite, and I swear to God I believe in
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: with every ounce of my bean because I've curled twice.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: If I dedicated full time to curling, I can make
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: the Olympic team. I believe it. Curl that curl that
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: stone down there, and bruh, you put a finely tuned
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: athletic machine like me with these great jeans on the
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: curling team. Bruther what go go medal? I believe that
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: in my heart. But anyways, I digress. The cool part
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: about this Winter Olympics for me has been is not
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: just the stories, because those are the best parts. The
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: best part has been watching it with my kids. And
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you guys a video that I put
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: on social media this week, and it was amazing to
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: me because we watched the show Traders as well, and
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Traders and the Winter Olympics collided with me and my
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: family and it was the coolest thing because our six
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: year old, who loves to watch Traders with me and
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: the wife. He loves getting involved, like he loves the
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: drama to getting involved. He has favorites and all this.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: And we were watching the Winter Olympics and this is
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: what happened when it came to that, and I was like, dang,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: this is dope. I want you guys to see how
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: big the show Traders is because me, Romanese kids, we
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: watch Traders and we're watching the Winter Olympics and this
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: comes on the screen and look what Roman said, Roman,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: who is that? How does he know who Terror Lipinsky is?
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: And then this came up, who is that? How does
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: he know who Johnny Weir is? Only from Traders? He
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't even recognize the team. These are two of the
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: greatest Olympian figure skaters that we've seen, and well known
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: broadcasters as well. I just think it's dope to get
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: a chance to enjoy something with the kids and they
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: get a chance to have a different relationship with people
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: that we saw in a totally different light. And now,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: yes it's a celebrity to him, but he has no
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: idea what they're known for before. He just heard it,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: right now, Hey, Roman, who do you want to win?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: And then he already has his pick for who he
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: wants to win Traders. He wants Rob to win Traders.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: But and no, that's not an ad for Peacock or
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Traders or anything else. I just thought it was cool,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: and I know that you guys have similar things where
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: it's like aha moments with you and your family. But
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: this has been great, like watching it with the wife,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: watching it with the kids, watching with everybody. And this
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: is what the Olympics are supposed to do. They're supposed
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: to bring us together, they're supposed to get us. You know,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: this is the time you can have some nationalistic spirit
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: and want your team to win and then also invest
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: in the stories of other people. So definitely appreciate that. Now,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: before we get out of here, oh Man, tough stuff.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: There's a kid who played at Northern Iowa. His name
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: oh Man, actually Parker Sutherland. And this was hard for
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: me because I've had a bunch of teammates pass away.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: I've had a teammate get shot. And I'll take you
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: back to when I was playing in college. That was
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: when guys started falling out and guy started dying. When
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: Corey Stringer died, you had Devar Darling up at Washington,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: oh actually he was at Florida State because his brother
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: was at Washington State. They were twins or or vice versa.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: And he died. And it is very difficult when you
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: have a player on your team die when something somebody
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: that you play with dies, and Washington State has dealt
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: with it. Utah's dealt with it twice. There's been a lot.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: But there was a kid over at Northern Iowa's name
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: is Parker Southern Sutherland. He passed away two days after
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: collapsing during an offseason workout, and then school officials announced
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: last weekend that the eighteen year old tight end from
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Iowa City had died Saturday morning. Now Iowa coach Todd
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: Stepsis he said Monday that the six foot six Sutherland
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: had collapsed on Thursday. He said, we were working out
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: in the morning, We get right through our warm up
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: and in a warm up routine, you know, normal Thursday,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and then he collapsed. And so other than the kid
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: appeared in four games as a freshman last fall, earned
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: second team all state honors his senior year at Iowa
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: City High School, where he also played basketball and as
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: a tight end. Former two sport athlete, myself, my heart
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: breaks for this kid for his dad, his mom, his sister,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: and you know it was It's just a very, very
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: tough situation and it just sucks. And this is why
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: I would always tell you. Now, I don't I'm not
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: even going to pretend to know what caused this, but
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: I do know that if you have a kid, you
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: have a teenager, especially if they're black, and yes, there's
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: a reason why, there's a medical reason why you should
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: get heart ultrasounds if you can't any heart test that
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: your insurance will allow. Because you even look at a
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: kid like Brownie James, that's one of the richest athletes
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: of all time, he almost died at USC These things
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: can happen at any point in time. Our hearts are
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: the one thing that we can't see on the inside
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: of and insurance doesn't like to cover a lot of
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: these things. So sucks. But you guys, though, that is
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