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The Reality Check Dermatology Brings to Aesthetic Care — Chris Murray · The Dr. Randi Show

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Now let's get into the episode. Hello everyone and welcome to
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the Doctor Randy show. I'm your host, Doctor Randy
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Boyette and here we are where beauty medicine and innovation
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collide. Let me tell you about our guest
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today. He is helping lead one of the
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largest and fastest growing dermatology groups in the
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nation. He is bridging the worlds of
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medical skin and modern aesthetics, and he is part of
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the powerhouse driving the future of Skin.
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Platinum Dermatology Partners, please welcome Chris Murray to
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the show. Thank you.
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Thanks, Doctor Boyer. Thanks for having me.
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Appreciate it. Absolutely.
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Well, thank you so much for joining us today, Chris.
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You and I have known each other for years.
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Even though we've kind of moved in different circles, we've
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always reconnected. So excited to have you on the
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show today, and I'd love to jump right in, if that's OK with you.
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Let's do. It.
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Let's do it. All right, so for listeners who
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might not know all about Platinum Dermatology Partners
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and what makes it stand out in the world of skin and
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aesthetics, I'd love for you to talk about that.
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Yeah. I mean, I think the interesting
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part for Platinum Dermatology Partners is we're a white label
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company. And what that means is we don't
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change the name of our practices.
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So a lot of times patients or customers are coming into our
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practice that may be coming to see a platinum physician that
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aren't necessarily knowing that because they went to something
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like cosmetic and laser dermatology in San Diego, which
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is one of our offices. So the really unique part about
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I think Platinum Dermatology Partners is the really the
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footprint that we have. When you look at aesthetics and
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growing markets, you really want to be in those growing markets,
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right? So Platinum Dermatology Partners
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is based in Southern California, Arizona, Las Vegas, Dallas and
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then Miami. And so you have a really cool
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diverse footprint, which also lends itself to a lot of
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clinical researches studies. We have 21 sites across the
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location. So from general dermatology,
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which makes about 80% of our business to aesthetic services,
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about 20% of our business, we're able to really make impact in
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those states. And it's really deliberate that
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we're located there and we're disciplined in those footprints.
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Well, it sounds like you have hit all of the top cities for
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aesthetics. So it was very, yeah.
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I mean, it was not a coincidence.
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I'm not a big coincidence guy. So I think you know, when you
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look at the legacy in Dallas, it was really where Platinum
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started and then there was some mergers and acquisitions on
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California, which was the Old West practices and then skin and
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cancer associates down in Florida.
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So a lot of those bigger groups into one mega group if you will,
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which gives us about 125 locations.
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I think this is an intriguing topic and the reason I really
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wanted to have you on as a guest today because I think that
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bridging the gap between dermatology and aesthetics is
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key and people maybe don't understand the relationship
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there. I myself never miss a year or
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even 6 months without seeing my dermatologist.
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The first question I want to dive into about that is why do
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you think it's important for consumers to choose a
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dermatologist when seeking aesthetic treatments instead of
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only going to an aesthetic clinic and maybe kind of having
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consultation first with their dermatologist of where to go?
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Yeah, it's really part of a holistic plan.
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You know, you really want to be able to treat the skin is the
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largest organ and really you start with that and
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dermatologists are the experts. And so you're looking at board
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certified, dermatologist, double board certified, whether they're
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aesthetic provider or not, they're really trained into kind
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of what you need to do holistically.
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And so that's why it's starting with the dermatologist really is
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in my mind to your .6 months, if you're coming in for skin
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checks, you have about 2 million unique patients walking through
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our doors every year. And really our job is to get
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more of them to stay here. I mean, if you think of the
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mathematics of that 2 million people, majority of people even
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at 20% of our business aesthetics are going to other
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providers if they stayed in the practice, which is my goal.
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Retention is really just as good a way to grow as external
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marketing, if not better retention and keeping people
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into the practice. It gets them coming back more.
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You know, mom comes in and brings her son in for acne,
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she's going to come in and get her Botox.
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If dad's coming in for a skin check, he brings his daughter
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in, same thing. There's a lot of different cross
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pollinations and having utilization and revenue in mind
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with aesthetics, just from our footprint with a must.
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Considering what you pointed out, we're in a really hot
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aesthetic markets. And I think that the role of
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skin health in overall beauty and anti aging is so critical.
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And I think that's something that's being forgotten a little
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bit, right? We're forgetting to check on the
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health of our skin 1st and making sure, you know, can our
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skin handle this type of treatment.
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And I don't think that dermatologists are trying to
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eliminate aesthetic clinics outside of that.
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I think that we're just trying to partner together more.
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So what are your thoughts on how skin health plays a role in anti
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aging and beauty? Yeah, that's a good point.
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Aesthetics has now grown into a multiple billion dollar business
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where people want seven days a week service.
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They want Saturdays, Sundays, Friday nights, when they're off
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of work, when they're going to have a week off for bruising.
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Like there's a lot of different ways that aesthetics can be
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treated outside of a clinic. But really when you're coming
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in, I'll give you a really easy example for anyone to
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understand, whether your core physician or your consumer is
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sunscreen. Like if you're coming in and
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getting a neurotoxin and you're not getting sunscreen on the way
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out, I think there's a big miss on both the dermatologist part
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and also on the patients part because that's like going to the
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dentist and getting a cleaning and then not brushing your teeth
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at home. You really have to incorporate
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different levels of treatment and they all work together very
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synergistically. You might have to come back for
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your BBL or for an IPL or for vascular treatment.
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There's a lot of different ways that I think the aesthetic
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clinics can't necessarily repurpose a lot of the devices
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specifically for that prevention.
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They can in some cases, but for the most case I think
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dermatology is a one stop shop from whether it's skin care,
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whether it's your treatments, whether it's your neurotoxin or
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just in general skin health, this should be your first stop
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on your aesthetic journey. I agree.
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And I think especially if you've had any skin conditions or
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concerns in the past, like something that may have needed
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like a prescription cream or some kind of lotion, and then
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you're considering aesthetic treatments, the best step to
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take first is to go to your dermatologist.
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Make sure, is my skin ready for this?
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I think that's part of it. I know myself, I had a condition
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a few years ago, no idea why. Maybe it was just the time of my
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life or some products that I used, but I had some kind of
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like an eczema, but just on my eyelids, right?
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So like my eyelids were itching all the time and I couldn't
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figure it out. And after just me trying to cure
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it on my own, finally went to a dermatologist and there was like
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very quickly the cream that I could put on my eyelids.
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And then it took it away immediately and I suffered with
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it for a year because I didn't feel like going to the doctor.
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But now I'm very mindful when people will say to me, oh, I'd
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like to do that treatment on your eyelids because obviously
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that's maybe something I need. I think to myself, let me check
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with my derm if this is OK for my eyelids after knowing I had
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that condition and that it's underlying there.
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So I think that we really do need to marry the business.
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Absolutely. And you think of even the DO
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residency programs, it's a very holistic hands on approach to
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this would also be another way that this could be diagnosed or
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MD through the school of dermatology.
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They're really trained in wedding out the root causes of
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these issues and then treating aesthetically.
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So what would you say right now are the most popular aesthetic
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treatments that patients are asking for at your clinics?
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And that's a great question because really it's been a
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surprise where the growth is coming from.
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And I think when you look at cycles, I love looking at
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cycles, the beginning, middle and end to everything.
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And if you look at where we are right now, the beginning is
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really the focus on aesthetics. But what's growing double
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digits, it is surprising to me is our devices and whether
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that's, you know we're still working through a lot of the
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coding to figure out which device where, but a lot of the
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device traffic has picked up considerably.
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I'm not sure if every other dermatology MSO is looking at
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that same thing. But our injectable stay with
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growth, I mean we're continuing to grow.
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So that's really positive considering that injectables can
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go up and down with the economy very quickly.
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We're not seeing any real set back in any of the categories
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for our injectables, which is very healthy.
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So double digit kegger is normally what you have in
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aesthetics. Overall, we're tracking right in
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line with that. And I would say we're LED
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specifically by our devices, our energy devices.
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So on that topic, question for you, are patients coming in and
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just asking for those specific devices or is it that your team
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does an amazing job? Because I think when it comes to
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devices, education is key. So, you know, I will tell you
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years ago I was told, hey, you could use ACO 2 treatment,
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right? You know, you're about to turn
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50 maybe time. At that point I was like, wow, I
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didn't even know. I thought that was more for like
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acne scarring at that point. And I thought I didn't know that
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that was something that would really help me.
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But then the education made me ask for it.
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So I'm curious, what does it for you all?
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It's funny, as I listen to your example, you're answering the
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question and you know I'm serious because when you come
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here, I came from the industry. I've been in the industry on the
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product side for 20 years, 20 years this next year and 26.
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And now I've transitioned over to the practice side.
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You have assumptions when you come here, but you don't really
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know. And what you just said is so
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interesting. If I back you up and you said do
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people come in asking for it? The first answer is mostly no.
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And the reason is that there's so many devices to get to the
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consumer to actually get to reach even just penetrate the
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market with your brand is almost hundreds of millions of dollars.
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It takes so much for you don't even know what the name brand of
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something is. So it isn't necessarily what I
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believe. And this is not my opinion.
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I don't believe they come in asking for it.
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What it really is a result of is having the device coverage in
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your office that when someone comes in, you say, hey, just
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like you said your example, they said you need a CO2.
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You didn't come in asking for a CO2 or a brand name of the CO2.
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Someone came in during your normal check and said, hey, this
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could really help you get a better outcome with whatever it
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is that you were there for. And so I think if you buy one,
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they will not come. I'm just going to say that.
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Will your great company come and help you drive patient traffic
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with events or with marketing? Sure.
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That's what needs to happen. But just organically, if I buy a
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device and put in an office, people around the neighborhood
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don't just start coming in because they heard it's there.
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So I do think that while devices are a retention tool of the
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highest caliber because they're very specialized and they get
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great results, but I don't believe that someone comes in
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asking for it off the street unless they're doing some
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research of their own, which we have people doing that too for
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consumers. For the most part, I think
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you're right. And I remember that day and I'm
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in the industry, but I still thought that CO2 was for like a
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much more aggressive like deep set wrinkles or sparring and
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that kind of thing. And when they said to me, hey,
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we're just going to leave you with this little book.
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And it showed all these before and afters and here I am four
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CO2 treatments later, and it changed my life, right?
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I feel like it took 10 years off of my skin.
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I did 4CO2 four years in a row and it changed the whole look of
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my skin. And it wouldn't have been
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something that I thought I needed to ask for.
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How many patients really want to come into an office and be
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involved in the decision of their treatment?
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It's very small. There's an old study that I love
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to quote from when I was a Rep. It was like 31% of patients
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actually want to be involved in the treatment that they're
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getting. They trust you, especially if
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you're a dermatologist or plastic surgeon, they're asking
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you to do it. So I can hear a lot of times,
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you know, I don't want to sell. It's not about selling.
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It's education. Just what you just said.
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They don't know their options unless you give them to them.
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There's a lot of different ways that all of this fits together
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to our earlier point. Agreed.
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And I said this the other day on the show that I feel like we're
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not educated enough, right? The most popular question that I
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get being in this industry when I run into friends or go out to
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dinner or whatever is what treatment do I need?
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What device do I need? Which brings me to my next
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question, Chris. What devices are being used the
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most at Platinum? A wide range because we treat so
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many things and really it's hard to really pinpoint any specific
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one. I think when you look at the
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seasonality of it, you're not going to see a lot of treatment
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in the summer months. Obviously, with the fall coming
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back, we're seeing a lot of push.
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But really you look at cosmetic laser and dermatology, which is
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one of our biggest practices out in San Diego, they have over 60
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devices. I want to say that it's even
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more than I might be undercutting, but I mean that is
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a really, really wide range. And the point of that is that
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the people flying from all over the country to get treated there
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because you have such diverse devices.
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So is there anyone specific one? I would say the Moxie and BBL we
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do outstanding every time we get one of those put into one of our
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offices. Outside of that, micro kneeling
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is very popular. And then IPLI came here from
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another company and there was all this demand for devices and
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one of the first devices we put was an IPL and a general derm
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office. Why?
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Because they have tons and tons of traffic coming in and room to
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put it on the schedule and fit it in.
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So it's a good ad to keep people in to a really, really busy
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practice in California. So one question just to back it
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up a minute. We talked about injectables very
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briefly, and I think that our audience, our listeners, our
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viewers, they would love to know when it comes to injectables
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like neurotoxins and fillers, what do dermatologists bring to
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the table that sets them apart from other injectors?
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Not saying anybody's better, not better, Just curious, you know,
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what's the different shift there?
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This is one of those ones where injectables is what I do.
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That's where I come from. That's what I speak the most.
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And when I'd love to ask you, like, do you realize how many
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people in the US actually get injected in years?
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Very small compared to the overall population.
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There's 300 million, there's less than 10, right, that get
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injected. So very small.
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So you get that question at dinner all the time.
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What should I get? And start pointing, right?
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Go for training and volume. If you're a consumer and you're
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looking at a dermatologist or a plastic surgeon or anyone as
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aesthetic provider, period, their level of training and
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proficiency is #1 how much have they been trained, their
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credentials? Have they gone through these
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trainings For platinum? Because we're able to kind of be
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partners with our vendors. We had 17 hands on training
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across 120 locations this last month.
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Now that's a ton of training that's pushing the product
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through and getting results and understanding what they do,
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right? So that's the number one.
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Number 2 is about volume. If someone cuts hair and they
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only cut once a week, they're not as good as someone who cuts
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every day, 15 different people a day, right?
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So the volume and training. So credentials and volume, those
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are the people that you want to go to.
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Those are the ones you trust. I couldn't agree more.
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So how do you address that platinum, the overlap between
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preventative skin care, anti aging and aesthetics?
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When somebody comes in, do you just naturally jump in and
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address all those things? Do you ask them if they want to
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talk about all of those items? So curious how you do that?
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Aesthetic Plan, you sit with your provider and you plan out
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the treatments. To your point, you're going to
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come back every six months. I believe you should come back
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every three to four months. That's just taking a page out of
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the Wellness, even the aesthetic meds boss space to bring people
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back more often. Your skin care is the number one
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way I would do that. Skin care is something that
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again, you're refilling. Those are usually 12 week
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studies. That's three months of product.
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That's usually ironically about how many pumps that use in the
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medical grade skin care. So you're wanting to see people
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back in three to four months to stay on that plan.
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So you don't have to do a whole bunch of heavy lift.
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Like, Oh my gosh, it's the holidays, I need to go in and
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see my provider. Guess what, they're booked till
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next year. So staying on an aesthetic
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treatment plan and working with your provider towards your
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goals, like start with the goal and work backwards.
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I really want to look this way. I really like this result and
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then work backwards. Then you don't have to try to
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get everything in and you can really take advantage of whether
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that's a special or a promotion or even an event.
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So aesthetic treatment plans is the easy way that you should be
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doing that. And if you're trying a new
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provider and they're not going to that consultation about what
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the long term goals are, that's another key indicator that they
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may not have the training. Looking forward here, what do
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you think are the most exciting innovations and aesthetics that
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will change the industry over the next few years?
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So there's so much new investment into this company and
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it takes so long to get things through the process.
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The FDA got a quite a backlog on peer reviewed study,
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investigator initiated studies, IRB studies.
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So there's this hold up, but there's this rush to bring in
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new treatments. And you look at something like
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sculpture. Sculpture is something that I
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started with as a bio stimulator.
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And so there's all these new investments in bio regenerative
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medicine and how do we get there?
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Well, sculpture took, I want to say, 15 years for us to figure
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it out. It started in Southern
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California for HIV patients. As it developed, the label was
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wrong. And So what does that mean to
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the consumer? That means that they're
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injecting off label, but they're also not able to train on it.
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So there was no lidocaine in the original label.
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The reconstitution caused it to clog.
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So it took 15 years for people to use it and really innovate
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before they did a five year safety study.
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Once they did the five year safety study, what happened with
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sculpture? It exploded.
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And so you see this pent up new products coming on the market.
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Some are controversial because they don't have the data behind
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them yet. We know that they work because
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they're following the same path as sculpture where people are
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developing it as the science catches up.
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So while I think aesthetics treatments that the physicians
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usually have a high tolerance for off label and kind of
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pushing the envelope, I think right now what you're seeing,
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what I'm excited about is a lot of fruition for a lot of efforts
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and investment coming in that's really giving us this new push.
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So bioregenerative medicine and the future of Wellness really is
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coming out of aesthetics because Wellness, it makes so much sense
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when you're treating it holistically like we talked
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about. If I don't bring up these
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buzzwords, you know, people wonder why, but exosome stem
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cell. Tell me what your thoughts are.
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How do you see them fitting into dermatology LED aesthetics?
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Well, it depends, because they're just scratching the
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surface. If you're talking about the
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using them topically, those things can be relatively safely
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used, whether or not they are working or whether or not they
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are stable or whether or not they come from plant versus
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meat, there's a lot of different ways that that can go.
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And so I'm not sure totally what the future is because I know
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that there's some science that talking about injecting some of
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those things and what happens in the body, we don't know.
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So right now I would just pause and say if you see the word
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science, you know if the word science is being used.
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I think we're getting really close to that like threshold
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where what are we calling science and when you're talking
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to your static provider, a board certified dermatologist, board
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certified plastic surgeon in one of our locations, hopefully they
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should really understand what they're talking about with
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science. How many people are in the
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study? Is their basic safety studies
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like what's coming in the science package?
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Because I can tell you that most people now are using that word
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interchangeably with really just peer reviews or, you know,
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anecdotes. We don't want that.
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So looking at the data and for yourself and understanding what
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is science and is not should be left up for your medical
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professional. And then you should be able to
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trust them in turn that you're getting something safe into
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practice. So I do have another
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controversial question. Somebody comes into the clinic,
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how are you balancing when they're asking for results that
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are not subtle, that maybe won't look it in the eyes of the
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provider, yet the person keeps pushing and pushing that they
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want that result. So curious how you handle that
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at Platinum? It's interesting because the
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provider should have the ability to stop someone from doing
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something that's not in their best interest because at the end
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of the day, you're really putting your name and your
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reputation on that result. And so while some people want a
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little bit more like if you think about like different areas
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of the country, what's really good and let's say Beverly Hills
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versus Arkansas or Chicago over New York, if you've ever been to
21:32
those two people dress and act very differently.
21:34
You might have it more acceptable to have, you know,
21:36
your lips a little bit more defined or a little bit more
21:39
plump, depending on which market you're in.
21:42
So really, I think, again, that's where that trust for the
21:44
provider comes in and hopefully they're steering you in the
21:47
right direction. Are there currently treatments
21:51
that you think that patients are overlooking right now that they
21:54
should be paying more attention to?
21:56
Skin care, skin care, I can't say it enough.
22:00
If you're not using skin care every day, I think you're
22:04
missing the importance of it, what it can really do for you
22:06
and as an overall aesthetic patient, it cannot be
22:09
overstated. And so I just think right now
22:12
with devices and injectables being 99% of my day, skin care
22:17
is something I don't think we're talking about enough anymore.
22:21
Agreed. And I think that people
22:23
underestimate the effectiveness of it.
22:25
And I think in the last three years, I'd say with the
22:29
emergence of the skin fluencers, I think that there's been such
22:34
an emergence of great skin care out there and skin care that can
22:38
make a difference without having to go and have a device
22:41
treatment. Even if somebody says, well, I
22:43
can't afford to have treatments, I don't want to have treatments.
22:45
Whatever the reason is, I think we can achieve some amazing
22:48
results just by using skin care. I know there's a couple of new
22:52
items that are in my routine. I started using copper peptides
22:56
not long ago and such an enormous difference like in my
23:00
skin immediately. And I think for each person it's
23:04
something different, right? Because, you know, the makeup of
23:06
our skin is very different. So one thing that might help my
23:09
skin might not help your skin, but I know for me, the copper
23:13
peptides, I thought it was very weird.
23:15
This dark blue liquid showed up in a bottle and I was like,
23:18
something must have happened here in the factory.
23:20
But in fact, it really made a huge difference in my skin.
23:23
And that's what's coming, you know, with the investment in it.
23:26
We're finding new treatments like copper peptides probably
23:28
wasn't on anybody's bingo card two years ago.
23:31
But because of really the mass kind of exposure of the
23:35
aesthetic industry over the last two to three years, I think
23:38
you're seeing everybody investing in this space, which
23:41
is really interesting because we're coming up with new
23:43
products and new categories right now.
23:45
So, Chris, finally, if you could leave listeners with one message
23:49
about the role of dermatology in aesthetics, what would it be?
23:53
Think of your dermatologist or plastic surgeon when you're
23:56
talking about aesthetic treatments.
23:57
If I could just really point to the fact that this training and
24:01
the continued training, you know, it's part of our mantra
24:03
here at Platinum Dermatology Partners to continue to train,
24:06
to elevate because if we get better results from our
24:09
patients, they see better results, they come back, they
24:12
tell their friends, everything grows.
24:13
So at the end of the day, there's been a race to
24:17
nationalize aesthetics for I'd say more than 10 years, maybe
24:20
even 15 years at this point. And some people have been
24:23
successful in scaling and kind of building across the country.
24:27
But one thing I've learned is you can't scale people,
24:29
individuals. What you can scale is processes
24:31
and training and resources. And so those things you will
24:34
have as a function of being a doctor in Platinum Dermatology
24:37
Partners, which will help elevate your results.
24:40
So come see us at one of our locations and let's get a
24:43
treatment plan for you using the best technology or the newest
24:47
and greatest that we're studying in our locations.
24:49
Thank you, Chris. Well, you have been kind enough
24:52
to agree to hang around for a speed round.
24:56
Excited to go through a series of rapid fire questions, right?
25:00
Just kind of a yes or no, like or dislike kind of questions.
25:04
So whenever you're ready, we'll dive in.
25:06
Go ahead and I'm shooting. OK here we go.
25:09
Is retinol still the gold standard in anti aging for skin
25:12
care? Yes.
25:14
Should everyone be using a vitamin C serum?
25:17
Yes. Should people be exfoliating
25:20
every day? No.
25:22
Is toner really necessary in the skin care routine?
25:25
It depends. Do collagen supplements actually
25:29
work for the skin? Yes.
25:31
Is red light therapy worth the hype?
25:35
I don't want to answer that because my friend has one of
25:37
them. No, I I don't believe so.
25:39
That's an opinion, not of study or fact.
25:42
Should people do micro needling at home?
25:45
No. Are chemical peels making a
25:48
comeback? Yes.
25:50
Should fillers be done before the age of 30?
25:53
Yes. Do you believe in preventative
25:56
Botox? Yes.
25:57
Is laser resurfacing safer than most people think?
26:01
Yes. Can lasers be done in the
26:03
summer? You got to be really careful.
26:06
Is acne treatment more advanced now than five years ago?
26:10
No. Should people with darker skin
26:12
tones be careful with lasers? Yes.
26:16
Does skin cycling actually make a difference?
26:19
I believe so, yes. Are clean beauty products truly
26:22
better? No.
26:24
Is moisturizer necessary even when you have oily skin?
26:28
Yes. Should teenagers be using
26:30
retinol? Carefully and under the
26:33
supervision of a board certified dermatologist or plexus surgery.
26:36
Are PDO threads out for good? I don't think so.
26:41
When you really look at where innovation is coming from in
26:43
aesthetics, it isn't the US unfortunately.
26:46
Sorry if I offended people here. It's South Korea, South America.
26:50
PDO threads have been around and really do well in those markets.
26:52
Here it not as much. It's still got its place here.
26:56
I know a lot of people who really do a lot of them out.
26:59
No. Under review?
27:01
Sure. Do you think we're in the era of
27:03
preventative aesthetics? Yes, anti aging preventative
27:09
aesthetics, Yes. OK, now we're going to get a
27:11
little personal about your aesthetic journey.
27:13
Ready. What's the first thing you do
27:15
for your skin in the morning? After you wash your face, I love
27:19
the vitamin C and then basically thin to thick and then put some
27:22
sunscreen on. Sunscreen is the one thing that
27:25
if you walk into enough dermatology offices and see what
27:27
most surgery looks like walking in and out, you will know that
27:30
you don't mess around with that. So sunscreen, if you think of
27:33
nothing else on this call, go to bestterm.com.
27:36
Get some sunscreen. Are you more of a skin care
27:38
minimalist or a product junkie? Minimalist.
27:41
Have you ever tried a procedure just to see what the patients
27:44
experience? Yes.
27:46
I just did it with Moxie BBL just to do it.
27:50
I've never done a device before. I did it just because I kept
27:52
saying, man, we're growing there.
27:54
So I went and tried it. I had someone out in Arizona do
27:57
it and she was terrific. And how do you like it?
28:00
It was great. I mean, it really did remove a
28:02
lot of spots. Like, I have a lot of sun
28:04
damage, you know, from years before I was in aesthetics, and
28:08
I think it really worked out really well.
28:09
What's the most underrated skin care step that people skip?
28:14
Vitamin C probably. What's the most surprising
28:17
result from a treatment? The first time you remember, the
28:20
first time you got a neurotoxin. Yes.
28:22
Me too, that one that I took a picture with my son and I took
28:26
like a selfie. We were hiking and I had these
28:28
like just these hot dogs, you know, on my forehead the first
28:33
time. Relaxed, calm.
28:36
You can't see the tremendous anger that I have because of my
28:38
Discord. So yeah, I think neurotoxin, if
28:41
you haven't tried that, what are you waiting for?
28:42
Because man, you will never go back once you try it.
28:45
If you weren't in dermatology or aesthetics, what career would
28:49
you have chosen? That's a really tough answer,
28:52
simply because I've done a lot of different things.
28:54
I love the restaurant business, so I'll probably be in the
28:57
restaurant business. I think there's a lot of
28:58
parallels between the restaurant business and aesthetics.
29:01
What is your go to treatment when your skin needs a quick fix
29:06
and you're feeling like you know you need a real big pick me up?
29:09
You know, just a boosting serum or some kind of serum is usually
29:13
what I throw on. I think there's a couple of
29:15
brands that make something that's really, really unique and
29:18
it helps you to boost your mitochondria, which is really
29:20
cool. That's number one.
29:21
Number two is my disc port. Like a disc port, I would say.
29:24
I let it go pretty long and then once I get antsy for it, that's
29:29
really what keeps me, I think, as young as I.
29:32
Young looking. Yeah, I think so.
29:34
I mean, I don't know, sometimes you start, I'm creeping up now.
29:37
I'm starting to get called old all the time, so you never know.
29:40
But this sport I think is the easiest 1 for me.
29:42
To say so you have a good balance.
29:43
The skin looks really good, looks really good.
29:45
DJ boosting serum is the one I'm talking about.
29:47
I love that. Do you think that good sleep
29:51
actually improves the quality of your skin?
29:53
Getting a lot of sleep is definitely going to help.
29:56
If you could leave our listeners with one piece of advice for
29:59
keeping their skin healthy for life, what would it be, Chris?
30:03
Just stay consistent, trust your professional whenever you do
30:06
find someone that's really makes you comfortable and that's
30:09
crucial. Obviously, just staying on that
30:12
path that you put together and keep your goals in mind.
30:15
And the other thing I think is to make sure you're taking
30:18
really good pictures. I think one of the things that's
30:20
easy to miss is how many times a day you look in the mirror and
30:24
how many times do you look at your face and you don't notice
30:26
stuff or you do notice stuff. You know, you might have any
30:30
kind of way that you look at it, good or bad or indifferent.
30:33
But those pictures will really help you to set your
30:36
expectations. And really, there's some
30:38
treatments that are so subtle, like that's the point, right?
30:41
That they're not supposed to be seen that you'll miss and you'll
30:45
think that they're not doing anything.
30:47
And I think that's a tragedy because you really want to make
30:49
sure that you feel good. That's the whole point of this.
30:52
If you don't feel good, what's the point?
30:54
So take good pictures and stay consistent.
30:56
Stay on the path. I love it, Chris.
30:59
Thank you so much for being here today.
31:01
I love this journey that we went on.
31:03
I think it's very important for everybody to understand that
31:06
connection between dermatology and aesthetics.
31:08
And I hope that you'll come back in 2026 and let us know what's
31:12
going on with Platinum and how we can stay connected.
31:16
Yeah, I'm sure I'll see you on another board or another
31:19
meeting, but until then, take care and I appreciate you having
31:22
me. And that's a wrap for today.
31:24
Thanks for listening to the Doctor Randy show, where beauty
31:27
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We'll see you next week. Doctor Randy Boyett holds a PhD
31:33
and is a recognized leader in the aesthetics and medical
31:36
industry. She is not a licensed medical
31:38
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31:41
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