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Curtis Bowers: Marx Madness & Communist 'AGENDA' In America · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  As you know, his pastors that Christ has his followers, his disciples, his people that
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  are accomplishing his purposes here on this earth.
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  But Satan also has his disciples.
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  And communist, Marxist, those are his disciples.
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  They are adamantly and with a righteous and a religious fervor that's hard to comprehend
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  trying to accomplish his purposes.
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  And we see by all the things they're trying to accomplish that they are not stopping
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  until everything God designed to be a certain way has been turned on its head.
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  That's all this is about.
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  It is what Ephesians 6 talks about.
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  It is a spiritual battle against wickedness and Satan.
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  It's not naive, misguided people that don't have a clue.
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  It's people that are committed to their commander-in-chief and they do exactly as they are told.
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  The reason we are losing this and I'll talk more at the end about this is because we
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  are near as committed as they are.
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  We are not near as committed as they are.
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  And we're going to talk with Curtis Bowers, filmmaker, author, former Idaho legislator
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  in just a minute.
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  I'll introduce him, but first I want to say thank you for watching and sharing and supporting
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  in part because of the quality that is put into it.
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  So guys, thank you who are viewing.
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  Thank you guys, everybody that's involved and I want to bring in Curtis Bowers now and
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  is very first film agenda, the documentary grinding America down.
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  We're going to talk a little bit about that.
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  You can't not talk about it because a lot of people are still learning about some of
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  the content, the Marxist revolution in America, cultural Marxism, communist policy in the
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  United States.
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  So let's bring in Curtis Bowers, brother, I know you just got off the road.
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  Thank you so much for being on World View Matters.
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  You're welcome and congratulations on 100th.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  Slow but sure.
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  How many podcasts you've done so many podcasts, too?
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  You're probably well over.
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  You're in the hundreds I'm guessing by now.
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  Or speeches.
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  Yeah, I think we are.
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  So Curtis, that clip we played to kick off the podcast was from a recent Liberty Pastures
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  conference.
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  I've been there a couple of times to a couple of 2020 and 2021.
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  I was in Dallas, Texas.
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  That's where I met Trevor Loudon, who I first heard of in agenda documentary.
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  So talk to us a little bit more about what you were sharing about the left being so committed.
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  And I wish the church was as committed to the truth as they are to lies and Marxism and
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  go ahead and share your thoughts on that.
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  Well, as I've studied Marxism for decades now, you see from even Marxist back in the
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  30s, 40s and 50s, you know, when they didn't appear to be making much progress, they were
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  still just all in.
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  I remember Whitaker Chambers who eventually became a Christian and then came over to our
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  side.
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  But he said his wife and him would work for 60, 70 hours a week for free that have another
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  job to pay their bills and they would work for the cause just because they so believed
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  in this move for world communism.
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  So it's something that as you study and you see their efforts, you realize, man, they
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  have this just religious fervor in them for a lie.
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  And yet we have the truth and sometimes a little too busy to tell my neighbor about Jesus
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  or stand up for something that's being said that's not not true.
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  And I should stand up and tell the alternative side of this of whatever I'm kind of busy.
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  And so that's why how we've gotten to where we are, specifically the church and pastors
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  dropping the ball, starting back in the 1930s, believe in the humanist manifesto lie that
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  the church and its message belongs inside the four walls of the church and nowhere else.
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  And back in the 30s, many mainline denominations started saying, oh, I'm sorry, excuse me, pardon
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  me.
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  And they believe the lie that only the religion of humanism was allowed in the world.
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  And so they backed into the church and the church lost its influence on the culture
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  and on everything going on.
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  And that's what we see then.
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  It was fertile soil then for the Marxists to come in and fill the gap of all the things
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  that the church had been doing very effectively where they could use those things to get more
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  power and control influence salt and light.
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  And by the way, second biggest lie in America, the separation of church and state, right?
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  Curtis, you were talking to a room full of pastors at that conference just a week or so
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  ago.
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  And I want you to share, it was surprising to me when you asked how many people have seen
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  the original or the agenda documentary or the second one.
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  And not many hands went up to you and I were kind of going, wow, but you said something
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  before we got on the podcast, it's very interesting.
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  You said, it's good that more people are catching on and are trying to learn about this.
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  But share what that's just must seem odd to you because you've been out there since 2010.
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  Yeah, before that's right, but I've been traveling actively for the last 14 years all over
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  the country each year with my family, trying to wake up people to understand the purposefulness
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  behind America's fall.
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  And but yeah, everywhere we've been going the last year or two, unlike years gone by,
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  none of them even have heard of the movie agenda grinding America down.
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  And we had over 25 million people just watched on the internet years ago, but we had hundreds
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  of thousands of copies of the movies being shown at churches and communities all over this
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  country thousands of each week were being shown for a couple of years.
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  And but now what I think it is, David, is COVID kind of awakened a whole nether batch of
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  people.
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  It always takes something to finally shake people from their busy life and their slumber
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  of not being, you know, having time for what's important all too busy with life.
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  And I remember back the first wave was when Obama was elected president in 2009 when he
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  came into office, all of a sudden he started to say things about shared prosperity and
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  things that also people go, wait a minute, that's socialism.
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  What was going on?
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  And it woke up a whole group of people in the tea party movement started stuff.
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  And then a lot of those people probably a lot of them have slowly died off some of the
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  older ones and things.
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  But then I think COVID was another huge wake up call.
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  And I think over the last four years ago, it started right now, tens of millions of Americans
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  have awakened in that, that's a wonderful thing.
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  We should thank God for that.
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  He indirectly has answered our prayers, you know, God help us by okay, I'm going to allow
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  conditions that are going to awaken another 10, 20, 30 million people to realize the narrative
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  is a lie.
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  The things we've been taught most of our life is a lie.
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  And there is a war going on for our country because to ever implement a world government,
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  they know America has got to go.
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  You can't have one country up there like the city on a hill and get the rest of the world
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  to buy into the misery of socialism.
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  You've got to take them all down, then, you know, people I owe whatever, all I need
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  something to eat, they're not worried about the details of things as much as survival.
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  But that's what they've been trying to do.
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  So that's, yeah, at that conference, as most of the places I've been recently, no one's
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  hardly heard of it.
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  And as I give a speech on some of these things, they're very sobered by it and very interested
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  in it, which is wonderful, but I can tell, okay, they're finally, you know, popping the
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  bubble and coming out and going, oh my goodness, things are different than what I thought
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  they were.
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  So we're going to talk about PR and propaganda after we take a very brief break, but before
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  we do that, you brought up COVID in 2020.
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  Sometimes I refer to time now BC before COVID and after 2020, but there's an article that's
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  relevant because what was going on during that year, not only did our government, and
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  you think of Nazi Germany as chilling, not only did our government deem the church
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  non-essential, but there were lockdowns, power grabs off the charts that we've never seen
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  in American history and telling businesses how they could run, but they're of course
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  keeping the abortion mills open.
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  But there's an article I pulled off from a week or so ago off the news wire.
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  It says, why America's kids are hip to BLM and LGBT, but are failing ABC and 1, 2, 3.
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  And it's got a picture of Randy Winegarten, the president of one of the huge teachers unions.
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  And this is on-purpose Curtis Bowers unions are an enemy of the people.
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  And this is the full, in February, they celebrated Black Lives Matter week of action.
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  That was just a few weeks ago in many public schools.
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  And unions were pushing this and I just want to get your response to this because in school,
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  they were celebrating and promoting Black Lives Matter week of action, knowing full well.
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  Well, most Americans know Black Lives Matter started China back then.
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  They were started by Marxist.
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  They were trained Marxist, the co-founders admitted that.
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  They were anti-Christian, anti-family, anti-freedom, anti-American, and they're pushing all these
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  things.
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  They're pro LGBT, pro trans, and everything else.
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  And this is what they're still pushing in the government run schools, your quick thoughts.
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  Yeah.
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  It was a goal stated clearly in the 1950s, goal 17 of their, the Communist Party USA, was
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  get control of the schools, use them as transmission belts for socialism, soften the curriculum,
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  and get control of teachers associations.
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  You have the children, you have everything, and they understand that we have unfortunately
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  not heated what the Bible says in that the blessing of children, the reward of children,
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  and that the hand that rocks the cradle really does rule the world.
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  And that's why every totalitarian has always been after being involved with the curriculum
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  in the schools, so they can raise the next generation to be the people they want them
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  to be and use them and all the energies of their life to accomplish their goals.
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  Maybe when we come back from our break, you can share with our audience if you think people
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  are catching on a little too late.
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  But we'll talk about that.
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  Plus, we are going to talk about PR and propaganda.
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  But we come right back.
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  We've got a lot more coming up on this 100th episode of World View Matters with Curtis
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  Bowers.
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  But Curtis Bowers, I really like what you shared last year at the Prophecy Conference in
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  Appleton, Wisconsin.
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  We're fortunate to both be able to speak there.
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  And you shared some fascinating information on how this transition has been happening very
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  gradually from PR, which sounds benign, but it's actually propaganda.
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  I don't know if I got that right, but explain and kind of bring our audience up to speed.
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  Yeah, back as early as the 1930s, the people that were pushing propaganda in our country,
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  which was our government and many of the big businesses and things through their advertisements
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  that weren't true, they realized, okay, propaganda, because of Hitler and different things
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  that have happened in the world kind of has a bad name, so we're going to rename it public
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  relations and a very clever way of propagandizing people back like, oh no, no, this is just
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  our public relations department.
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  But at that talk, what I talked about a little bit in summary was fifth generation warfare.
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  Warfare has gone through many different stages throughout time, starting with first generation
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  warfare, which was like the Civil War, where you just had a line and column tactics.
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  People line up, shoot each other and then you keep going, which it wasn't too brain and
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  my thinking.
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  But fifth generation warfare, what were really those that are against us, those that are
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  trying to use the energies of us individually in our country against us have realized it's far
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  easier to use propaganda and brainwashing and manipulation to get people to voluntarily do
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  what you want them to do instead of having to force them with guns and things like that.
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  And so they've slowly been perfecting this since the 1930s.
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  How do you manipulate people into just doing it and Edward Bernays who wrote the book propaganda
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  back in the 1920s? He had really discovered through advertising.
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  Basically, you can get people to do anything you want them to do.
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  As long as you can convince them, it's what the experts would recommend for them to do.
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  The people that they admire, maybe their doctors, maybe movie stars or actors or athletes or
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  whatever, they realize, oh my goodness, people, when they look up to someone, then whatever
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  that person thinks about whatever the subject may be, even if it's a subject, they have no expertise
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  and they listen to them. And so that's when they really started buying up the influencers and to
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  get them to carry their messages and their narrative to the public and they saw, oh my goodness,
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  it's so effective. Even during World War One and World War Two, when Americans really didn't want
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  to go to war because we had just seen enough death, they really, they hired Edward Bernays and he
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  said, listen, after surveying the American people, I feel that anything you wrap and cloak
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  in patriotism they will be for. They so love their country, it's crystal clear. So if you're
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  wanting them to go to war, you label that as the most patriotic thing you can do.
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  And anyone that's against the war, their traitors to the cause and they found it was very effective
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  and it's manipulated. A lot of us that do love America most of our life and some have awakened
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  out of rights. Wait, they're using that against us just like they use the idea of Christians
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  are loving and kind and we're supposed to love our neighbor. Well, they know the Bible says that
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  so they know, okay, how can we cloak things if we're trying to sell it to the Christian community?
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  How can we sell it as this is what Jesus would do? This is, you know, this is biblical, you know,
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  if they don't believe in the Bible, they don't believe in Jesus. But so we've we're really in a
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  world today that is just constant barrage of half-truths and misinformation, disinformation,
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  they act like we're doing that. They're the ones that are experts in this because they realize
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  if you can control the narrative, you can control most of the people most of the time.
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  And world dictators have known this. They've talked a lot about influencing the youth and
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  controlling the narrative. You mentioned patriotism and how maybe a hundred years ago or maybe even
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  50 years ago perhaps people would have thought of that as a good thing. Well, now isn't an interesting
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  Curtis Bowers that they're talking about Christian nationalism and a negative light,
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  derogatory fashion. That's part of this agenda, isn't it? It is to reflect negatively on the
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  biblical worldview and on people that are simply patriotic about America. Your thoughts on that?
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  Yeah. Well, I think they used patriotism as long as they could when it was in the majority,
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  where most people love their country. But then they rise, hey, our school system's being successful
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  in teaching them to be anti-American, to focus on every mistake America ever made instead of
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  all its successes or to make fabricate things about it that aren't even true to begin with.
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  They were like, okay, now we're turning the tide. We're now we're going to finally come out against
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  patriotism since we've hated it from the beginning, but we wanted to use it as long as we could
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  to accomplish as much as we could accomplish. Now we're going to go ahead and turn on it.
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  And because we feel we have the youth on our side and they will continue on this battle
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  to make it just an evil thing to love your country, to be thankful for your history,
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  to be grateful to God for blessing you, to be born or raised in this country.
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  So yeah, it's classic Marxic strategy. You use every group of people you can as long as you can
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  to get as much out of them as you can, and then what you're done with them, you throw them under
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  the bus and you move on to the next group to use and manipulate. We used to laugh, you and I,
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  being probably of close to the same age, maybe a couple decades ago of Jay Leno going out on the
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  street, doing these man on the street interviews, or going to college campuses after a graduation,
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  or a high school graduation, asking kids what they knew about their country, what they knew about
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  history. And we used to laugh at this, but it is so sad that they, history as we know has been
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  rewritten by the left and by the Marxists and by those who control the textbook publishers and
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  and everything else, the teachers unions. And now kids are being put out of this. I think you
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  said something in that Liberty Pastors conference that we just played a clip from that the system
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  is designed to do exactly what it's doing, putting out social justice activists, anti-American
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  children who are growing up to be very effective on college campuses, anti-Christian, anti-Israel.
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  So go ahead and share about that. Yes, it's a, it's a saying from the business world,
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  your system is perfectly designed to give you what you're getting and what that means is whether
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  it's a business, a family, anything, a country, whatever the product is you're turning out,
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  that's what your system is designed to give. So even if you go, well, you know, people don't like
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  my business, you realize I have to change the business then because if this is the product,
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  the way I'm doing things is producing, that's what it's designed to do, even if I didn't
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  intend it to be that way. Well, we see in the educational system so many naive Americans,
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  you know, think, oh, this system is just failing. It's just, you know, it's just not working,
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  you know, they don't even know how to read Harley and ride. They don't know how to do math and
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  and then, you know, we've got to just change some things. But what I say to them, because it's
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  the truth. And I know a lot of well-meaning people are trying to do things there, but I'm telling them
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  the system is perfectly designed to give us what we're getting. They wanted what we're getting,
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  just like that communist goal I read, they wanted to dumb down the curriculum. They wanted to get
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  control of teachers associations. They wanted to turn the children into dumb down activists. Why?
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  Because a dumb down person that doesn't have the character morality to be in control of
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  himself is going to need big government. They're going to always vote for whoever demands the
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  most government because they need it. They literally can't get up at 6 a.m. to go to work every
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  morning. They're just too tired or I can hear the alarm. They'll always have a good excuse. So
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  they wanted that kind of citizen that will be prone to be dependent on the system so you can
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  use them very easily. But also it's then focusing all the energies of their life into accomplishing
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  something. They want to have accomplished the environmental movement or the Black Lives Matter
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  movement or whatever it might be that that always sounds good. They always manipulate the words to
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  make you think, well this is a noble and just cause. Who's not for Black Lives? Well of course I'm
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  for Black Lives. But unfortunately all the Marxist groups and I've studied hundreds of them over the
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  last many many years. Their stated name or purpose is always the exact opposite of what they're
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  actually trying to accomplish. One example of this because it's so bold is one of the communist groups
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  I'm studying as a group out of Chicago. And I thought oh this is just a case in point for how
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  they manipulate words to deceive us. The name of the group is called the committee to defend the
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  Bill of Rights. It is a communist organization or Chicago. Only therefore one reason to make sure
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  we lose all of our Bill of Rights so that we can institute a totalitarian government here. So
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  that's just one example. But the whole environmental movement has never won you saving the planet.
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  Their policies are destroying the planet. It's actually hurting what is green because what is
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  green love CO2 and they're there to cut CO2 and when we know we need more CO2 for plant growth to
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  really thrive like that's why they put it into the greenhouses like they do because they
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  always know the more CO2 the better for everything that's green and yet they call themselves the green
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  movement when they're cutting carbon dioxide. It's evil and demonic but they are brilliant at
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  making things sound good. How many bills have has the left pushed that have sound good sounding
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  names to them or titles to the Bill or the legislation who wouldn't want to protect the
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  environment or who wouldn't want to protect children or who wouldn't be for women's rights or
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  whatever else go on down the list and we're going to run out of time quickly Curtis but you're
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  subtitle of agenda the first documentary grinding America down. If I remember right is that
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  somewhat that sounds like Antonio Gramsey and wanting to grind down America and get in and
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  infiltrate the major institutions is that the idea there and they've been very successful at it by
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  the way. Yes yeah he said back in the 1930s he said if you want to take over a Judeo Christian
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  country so a country that has foundations believing in God he can't use the Marxist revolution
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  because they believe thou shalt not kill they're not going to just kill each other off so he says
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  what you have to do is take over all the institutions of influence and use those to change the people
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  from within so you take over education and media and entertainment Hollywood and on and on and you
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  use those things then to to slowly manipulate the people into believing America is the most evil
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  country that's ever existed capitalism is the most unjust system ever invented and on where it
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  attacks all the foundation stones so then it will simply collapse on itself now real quickly and
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  over run out of time but he when he took over China with the cultural revolution he said we have
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  to get rid of the four olds the old culture the old ideology the old customs and the old traditions
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  and that's exactly what they've done in America wow and it is astounding to you and I people that are
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  informed and have been researching and writing about this for years speaking about this how much
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  success the left has had and I guess that's for another podcast because I wanted to ask you
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  because it's been going on for a long time but we did run out of time so grinding America down
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  agenda where can people watch the two documentaries if you go to Amazon you can rent them or buy
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  them there that's probably the most convenient or you can go to agenda weekly.com if you'd like a
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  physical copy of it Curtis thank you I know you're trying to sound the alarm to churches to get
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  Christians to wake up I know we've had a problem with apathy in the church and pastors need to wake
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  up pastors that actually need to be teaching the whole council of God addressing Bible prophecy
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  and the evil confronting evil exposing deeds of darkness thank you for all that you do Lord
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  willing will continue this conversation down the road but thanks again for being part of world
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  view matters God bless you sir thank you I appreciate you David all right thank you and by the way we
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  talked about the pastors conference their liberty pastors and you can get that whole presentation
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  that Curtis gave they're just a week or so ago it's on rumble look up liberty pastors with no
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  space in between and you can watch Curtis Bowers the Marxist communist attack on America and also of
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  course check out agenda weekly.com another colleague of ours was at that conference Alex Newman he
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  wrote the book in doctorating our children to death so check that out as well thank you for
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  your time friends for sharing the podcast God bless you and as always keep speaking the truth
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  about things that matter