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Speaker 1: Bob Costas is going to join us in hour number two.
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. Legend, Hall of Famer, Mount Rushmore broadcasters. Man,
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Speaker 1: I was watching baseball last night, Taylor. And the Brewers
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Speaker 1: are three outs away from winning the World Series. Games
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Speaker 1: and extra innings. It's in Tampa. Mostly Milwaukee fans. And
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Speaker 1: the only person, and this is strange, as I'm watching it,
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Speaker 1: laying in bed next to my wife, the person I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking about is Dan Byer. And what a misery he
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Speaker 1: must be. Now, they're still up 3-1. They're likely still
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Speaker 1: going to win the World Series. But I bring Dan
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Speaker 1: on here because I would like to know. Because, listen,
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Speaker 1: I will tell you, I was at 86. I told
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Speaker 1: you this yesterday. 86, Game 6, Mets, Red Sox. And
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Speaker 1: I was a misery headed into the ninth inning because
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Speaker 1: I thought the Mets were going to lose. And that
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Speaker 1: was my chance to win a World Series. And the
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Speaker 1: Mets haven't won a World Series since 1986. So, Dan Byer.
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Speaker 1: I'm laying next to my wife in bed last night,
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Speaker 1: and all I'm thinking about is you. How are you
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Speaker 1: feeling today?
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Speaker 3: It's interesting because my wife was just across the room
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Speaker 3: from me, and I don't think she was thinking of me.
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Speaker 3: I think she was wondering who was going to get
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Speaker 3: eliminated again from Dancing with the Stars. We had the
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Speaker 3: double TV going on. I had a good feeling after
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Speaker 3: that 11th inning. I am not a superstitious guy. I
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Speaker 3: don't like to make predictions. And I wanted to text
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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, our executive producer, because I knew that he
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Speaker 3: was watching. Honestly, I wasn't sure if anybody was still
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Speaker 3: up on the East Coast. But I sent a text
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Speaker 3: and I just said, that was huge because the Rays
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Speaker 3: had a runner on second. They got a runner to
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Speaker 3: fly out. And I felt something good was going to
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Speaker 3: happen in the 12th inning. I thought maybe it'd be
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Speaker 3: Garrett Mitchell to hit a home run. Well, then Cooper
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Speaker 3: Pratt ends up doing all the work himself. And I thought, wow,
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Speaker 3: this is how it's going to end. This is magical.
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Speaker 3: And then to see what the Rays did, to see
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Speaker 3: what the Brewers didn't do, when they had runners on
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Speaker 3: the corners, I actually was like, just go to extras.
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Speaker 1: Go to 13.
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Speaker 3: Just get one across, and then we're fine. Don't have
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Speaker 3: to do anything crazy. But it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it was very disappointing. Very, very disappointing because, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: thought it was a done deal when Pratt won yard.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but you're still up 3-1. We get more baseball.
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Speaker 1: You have your ace on the mound tonight in Tampa, Mizorowski.
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Speaker 1: But how are you feeling? You're not doubting the Brewers
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Speaker 1: at this point, are you? There's no way.
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Speaker 4: No, there is no doubt.
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Speaker 3: However, you know, wouldn't it have been like what a
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Speaker 3: moment it would have been to have Miz come in
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Speaker 3: last night to shut it down.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: But you can't do that because he's scheduled tomorrow and
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Speaker 3: you're up 3-0. So you've got decisions to make. And
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Speaker 3: I think ultimately they made the correct decision. But I
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Speaker 3: would love. their best pitcher or their second best pitcher
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Speaker 3: or their third best pitcher, their fourth best pitcher to
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Speaker 3: be able to have shut down last night. And that
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Speaker 3: didn't happen just because of, I mean, they used Uribe.
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Speaker 3: They used Ashby. They used McGill. They used pretty much everyone.
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Speaker 3: But they couldn't use Miz in that spot because of
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Speaker 3: his start today. And that was the, because there's that
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Speaker 3: moment right now in baseball when like, oh, my goodness,
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Speaker 3: the starter, the ace, the man is warming up in
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Speaker 3: the bullpen to shut this down. And that was just
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Speaker 3: never an option for them last night. And I hope
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Speaker 3: it gets done tonight because otherwise game six and seven,
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Speaker 3: There are already too many Red Sox Yankee tweets that
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Speaker 3: I saw last evening.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Then you get nervous if it goes back to Milwaukee,
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Speaker 1: which would be a nice story to win in front
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Speaker 1: of the home. Sure. But if you win tonight, you're
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Speaker 1: winning it anyway in front of the home fans because
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Speaker 1: no Tampa fans are there.
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Speaker 3: Fair enough. I see the Rays scoreboard. People even decided
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Speaker 3: to put Brewers world champions up, not even knowing that
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Speaker 3: the Rays had an opportunity to tie it.
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Speaker 1: Amazing.
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Speaker 6: Dan, I am surprised that. Pat Murphy is getting really
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Speaker 6: any criticism for not going to Mizorowski there and doing
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Speaker 6: everything possible in the ninth inning to get that game
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Speaker 6: across the finish line, because you're still up 3-0 in
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Speaker 6: the series. And it felt like too short-sighted of a decision,
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Speaker 6: even though I guess the thing at the end of
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Speaker 6: the road for you was a potential World Series, the
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Speaker 6: first in the Brewers franchise. But you can't put Mizorowski
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Speaker 6: into that situation and and jeopardize your pitching plans for
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Speaker 6: the remainder of the series.
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Speaker 4: Correct.
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Speaker 3: For that small of a window, plus I think we
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Speaker 3: believe Milwaukee is the better team. you know it's one
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Speaker 3: of those play for overtime or do you try to
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Speaker 3: win it at that point if you're the better team
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Speaker 3: you try to play for overtime they've got the 3-0
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Speaker 3: lead you've got other options you would think that at
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Speaker 3: some point they'd be able to break through so yeah
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Speaker 3: it just made sense my issue was that and this
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Speaker 3: is way inside baseball but i think baseball fans know
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Speaker 3: the brewers played up when they were up 3-2 and
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Speaker 3: i'd even texted this to the guys i didn't know
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Speaker 3: why they just could have just sacrificed the run, get
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Speaker 3: a double play to maybe end the inning because I
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Speaker 3: think the ball that ended up being hit up the
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Speaker 3: middle that was the tying run, could have been a
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Speaker 3: double play ball. They could have got out of it. Instead,
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Speaker 3: they played everybody up, and it went through, and then
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Speaker 3: the Rays just continued their rally. That's where I think
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Speaker 3: that the Brewers messed up, but I don't think anybody
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Speaker 3: cares about that, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: I think whatever nervousness you kind of hear in Dan's voice,
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Speaker 1: it's that he just doesn't want it to go back
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Speaker 1: to Milwaukee because 3-2, he knows Tampa's good. He knows
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Speaker 1: the Brewers gave him life last night and gave them
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Speaker 1: some confidence. He desperately does not want that series going
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Speaker 1: back to Milwaukee with Miz starting tonight. And you're only
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Speaker 1: up three, two, three, one feels a lot different than three,
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Speaker 1: two days.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it does.
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Speaker 3: And then have your ACE be used. So game six
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Speaker 3: could feel like a bit of a toss up. We
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Speaker 3: saw what happened in game two in the race, put
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Speaker 3: four on the board in the first Milwaukee was able
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Speaker 3: to rally, but outside of what happened in game three,
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Speaker 3: it's been a closely contested series. It's not like the,
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Speaker 3: the Brewers have been hitting the cover off the baseball
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Speaker 3: in the other games outside of Game 3.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: Dan, I saw a stat that the previous four World
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Speaker 6: Series teams to avoid a sweep after falling behind 3-0
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Speaker 6: all lost Game 5. So I think you should still
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Speaker 6: feel very confident about the Brewers tonight, even before the
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Speaker 6: fact that Mizorowski's on the mound. And I saw such
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Speaker 6: a great stat, Stu, where... After game three, Jackson Churio
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Speaker 6: became the youngest to record four hits in a World
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Speaker 6: Series game since Joe Garagiola in 1946.
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Speaker 1: Dan, you want to pronounce it for him?
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Speaker 4: Joe Garagiola?
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: So Jackson Churio became the youngest to do it since 1946. Yes.
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Speaker 6: And then a day later, Cooper Pratt became the youngest
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Speaker 6: player to record four hits since Jackson Churio the day before.
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Speaker 1: Thankfully, they have easier names.
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Speaker 3: Did they put Churio 2026, you know, right under the stat?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There was a Babe Ruth stat last night that I'm like,
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Speaker 3: my goodness. And I forgot even what it was, but
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Speaker 3: there was somebody put... Since Babe Ruth 1926. I'm like, ah,
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Speaker 3: it's a pretty good company.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: You know what the stat is, Sam? Hold on. Sam's
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Speaker 4: got the stat.
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Speaker 1: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
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Speaker 2: Hold on.
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Speaker 6: I believe it was the most hits through the first
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Speaker 6: four games of the World Series since Babe Ruth's in 1928.
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Speaker 4: It was like 10 hits in four games. Yeah, that
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Speaker 4: sounds about right.
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Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah. Remember that one.
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Speaker 4: If not, who cares?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right?
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Speaker 4: It's our own stat.
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Speaker 1: You want to take a stab at Joe's name again
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Speaker 1: or no?
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 6: Joe Garagiola.
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Speaker 1: He called a series with Vin Scully in the 80s.
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Speaker 1: I mean, legend.
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Speaker 6: Garagiola.
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Speaker 1: Notice I haven't tried.
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Speaker 4: Garagiola.
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Speaker 1: I deflected to Dan.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Wait, so, Dan, were you in celebratory mode last night?
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Speaker 1: When I was at 86 Game 6 with my dad,
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Speaker 1: you could bring anything into a stadium at that time, okay?
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Speaker 1: It was a free-for-all. And he had a bottle of champagne,
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Speaker 1: and he started to uncork that champagne in the ninth inning.
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Speaker 1: And me and my brother looked at each other. We're like, Dad,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing, man? You've been waiting so long
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Speaker 1: for the Red Sox to win a World Series. Don't
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Speaker 1: celebrate prematurely. Were you kind of in celebratory mode last
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Speaker 1: night at all? No, because of the error that led
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Speaker 1: off the bottom of the 12th. Right.
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Speaker 3: So the throw, like if you get one down, I know,
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Speaker 3: and the Brewers were celebrating, Brewer fans were celebrating after
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Speaker 3: the home run, but there's still the bottom half. And
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Speaker 3: if you can just get one out, then you're like, OK,
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Speaker 3: all right, here we go. And there wasn't because of
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Speaker 3: the throwing error by Ortiz. Like that was there wasn't
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Speaker 3: there wasn't an opportunity because now you're like, OK, great.
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Speaker 3: They've got a now a runner on base, no one out.
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Speaker 3: So there wasn't even that opportunity to really, really believe.
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Speaker 6: Stu, I was like you yesterday where I was sick
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Speaker 6: for Dan Byer as a neutral in this World Series
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Speaker 6: when I see the Brewers lose that game.
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Speaker 1: You were laying next to my wife? No.
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Speaker 6: But the Cooper-Pratt home run in the 12th inning to
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Speaker 6: put Milwaukee ahead, that's the kind of moment that should
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Speaker 6: live in Brewers history for eternity. And I'm always looking
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Speaker 6: for connections in these games, guys who I could root for.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 6: Cooper Pratt was the guy because he has a South
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Speaker 6: Florida connection in the world series. If you didn't know,
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Speaker 6: because I go to his Wikipedia page and I see
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Speaker 6: he was born in Hialeah.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Right. Yes.
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Speaker 6: For people not familiar with South Florida, Ricardo, as our
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Speaker 6: South Florida expert, how would you describe Hialeah?
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Speaker 1: It is a, the most Cuban place of Miami. And
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Speaker 1: that's including H street and Calle Ocho.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 5: 100%.
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Speaker 1: Miami is very Cuban, as most people know. This is
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Speaker 1: like the Cuban of the Cuban. Right?
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Speaker 4: So I have the numbers.
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Speaker 6: It says over 94% of Hialeah is predominantly Hispanic and Latino.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 6: With a strong Cuban and Cuban-American heritage.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: If I saw Cooper Pratt in Hialeah, I'd ask him
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Speaker 6: if he was lost. Look up Cooper Pratt if you
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Speaker 6: haven't seen him. He doesn't look like he's from Hialeah?
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Speaker 1: He's not.
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Speaker 2: He's not.
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Speaker 1: I think we need an expert. Board up, Ricardo. Have
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Speaker 1: you looked at this? We are talking. We're speaking out
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Speaker 1: of school here. Does Cooper Pratt look like he's from Hialeah?
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Speaker 4: He looks like he's from Boca.
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Speaker 1: West Palm, yes. That's an entirely different world. That's where
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Speaker 1: I live. His parents must have gotten lost or something
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Speaker 1: when he was born.
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Speaker 4: Here's the other part of it.
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Speaker 3: We've now reached an era where Coopers are making magnificent
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Speaker 3: plays in World Series.
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Speaker 4: The evolution of names.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: Like Brewer said, Cecil Cooper. That's a last name. That
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Speaker 4: was an 82.
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Speaker 3: Now we're going to now we're we're starting off a
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Speaker 3: decade of Coopers and Aiden's. All these kids are going
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Speaker 3: to be making plays like Cooper Pratt is such a
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Speaker 3: young kid sort of name. And I felt like last
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Speaker 3: night was a great like jumping off point for. All right,
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Speaker 3: here we go. Another now the next decade or two
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Speaker 3: are going to be filled with Coopers and Aiden's winning MVPs.
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Speaker 1: Right. Two decades from now, some guy named Pratt, first
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Speaker 1: name Pratt, is going to win an MVP. Right. Is
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Speaker 1: that what you're saying?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And it's just the new age name, like Cooper, like everybody,
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Speaker 4: you know, Cooper, Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: Like it's they're all there. They're in the Brewers lineup.
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Speaker 4: It just.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels it made me feel old is what
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Speaker 3: it did. There were no there were no mics going
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Speaker 3: yard in the 12th inning.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're sorry, Dan. We're sorry, but you're still up 3-1.
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Speaker 1: You have your ace on the hill, and it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a packed house of Brewer fans at the
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Speaker 1: drop tonight in Tampa, and they don't want to go home.
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Speaker 1: They're fine celebrating it right in Tampa. Yes.
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Speaker 6: Tampa should be embarrassed what that stadium looked like yesterday.
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Speaker 1: They should be. Well, they should be embarrassed just about
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Speaker 1: how the stadium looks when no one's there. But they
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Speaker 1: should be embarrassed that their fans have basically given up
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Speaker 1: on the team. I mean, and the Brewers fans have
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Speaker 1: taken over Tampa.
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Speaker 1: So we had Matt Leinert before we go out to
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Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks. Dan, we'll have a sports update. We had
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Speaker 1: Matt Leinert on the show yesterday. Bob Costas will join
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Speaker 1: us in hour number two today. Looking forward to that.
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Bob Costas. But we had Leinart on yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and Taylor, I don't know if you guys, if you remember,
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Speaker 1: but Leinart's talking about this group text that he's in,
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Speaker 1: and it's, you know, Paula Malu, and it's Ronnie Lott,
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Speaker 1: and it's Marcus Allen. It's a who's who of USC greats.
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Speaker 1: I imagine they call it Fire Lincoln Riley. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what the name of the group text is, but
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Speaker 1: if I told you that you could be, I'll give
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Speaker 1: out their phone number, we'll throw it to Dan, and
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Speaker 1: perhaps we'll get some calls on this, but if I
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Speaker 1: told you that you could be a fly on the
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Speaker 1: wall in any group text in sports right now. What's
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Speaker 1: the group text you want to have, you know, information
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Speaker 1: on like you want to have, you want to be
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Speaker 1: privy to, because I would love to see what's being
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Speaker 1: tossed around in the USC group text with Matt Leinart,
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, and the rest of those guys.
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Speaker 6: So for me, I'm biased. And the one I want
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Speaker 6: to know right now, what people are saying is the
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Speaker 6: New York Yankees, because you had the Joel Sherman podcast
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Speaker 6: where Jorge Posada said he doesn't feel welcome with the Yankees.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: And I would kill to know like what Derek Jeter
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Speaker 6: and Jorge Posada and Tino Martinez and Scott Brocious are
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Speaker 6: saying about that clown Brian Cashman.
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Speaker 1: Yes. An Eagles group text would be fun to be in.
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Speaker 6: That would be a good one.
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Speaker 1: We'll take some calls, 877-99 on Fox, 877-99 on Fox.
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you kidding me? Seriously. You need a kicker
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Speaker 1: that badly that you're willing to sign that kicker? And
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Speaker 1: don't say I'm inconsistent because I said the same thing
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Speaker 1: about the Browns when they traded to get to Sean
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Speaker 1: Watson and what is the worst contract in the history
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Speaker 1: of sports. But you need a kicker that badly that
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Speaker 1: that you signed Justin Tucker. And when you're asked about
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Speaker 1: signing Justin Tucker and the off the field issues, your
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Speaker 1: response is, well, he dealt with that.
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Speaker 6: That's what it is.
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Speaker 5: You know, that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's terrible is what it is. Stop
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Speaker 1: talking back to me.
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Speaker 6: That kicking room right now between Harrison Butker and Justin Tucker,
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Speaker 6: it's like the 1994 Little Rascals movie, the He-Man Woman
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Speaker 6: Haters Club.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't need a kicker that badly where
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Speaker 1: you're willing to get Justin Tucker. And quite frankly, you
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Speaker 1: can't need a quarterback so badly that you're willing to
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Speaker 1: sign Deshaun Watson. I mean, just what? Now, Andy Reid
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Speaker 1: gets away with it because he's the head coach of
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes is on that team and
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Speaker 1: everyone loves Kelsey and Taylor Swift. That is a bogus— can
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Speaker 1: I hear the sound from Andy Reid again? I wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about group text, and now I want to be—
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Speaker 1: Hold on a second, all right? Yes, thank you, Seth.
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Speaker 4: And that was me. Actually, I messed that one up.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, Seth. Dan, is there a group text that you
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Speaker 1: wish you were a fly on the wall for?
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Speaker 3: I'd like to know who Ohio State's quarterback is going
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Speaker 3: to be. I was going to say, I'd love to
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Speaker 3: know what's going on in the Chargers group text. Mike
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Speaker 3: McDaniel is apparently going to McDaniel still going to make
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Speaker 3: the play calls, but just a few, just a few.
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Speaker 4: Let's go back to a yes.
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Speaker 1: The Nuggets. Give on. Kansas City would be a good
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Speaker 1: one because I'm wondering if any guys are texting each
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Speaker 1: other going, we need to kick her that bad.
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Speaker 6: Trent Green.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 6: Trent Green texting Tony Gonzalez.
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Speaker 1: Right. Christian Okoye. I mean, even Tariq Hill objects to it.
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Bowe coming in. Jesus. What are we doing? Let
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Speaker 1: me hear the sound of Andy Reid being pressed on
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Speaker 1: the signing of Justin Tucker. He's done his suspension, you know.
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Speaker 4: Take care of that business there.
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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that for you. Of course you will.
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Speaker 1: Why expand on it? Why talk about the victims? I mean, geez. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to Brian, who is in Florida today. Brian, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: You're on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for taking my call. My curiosity is, you know,
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Speaker 8: the other night before Monday Night Football last week, we
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Speaker 8: had the Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and man, I
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Speaker 8: would love, I would have loved to known group tech
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Speaker 8: at ESPN with executives and whatnot. Cause man, that, that
17:04
Speaker 8: got messy and it's still messy and they have to
17:06
Speaker 8: do a Superbowl again.
17:08
Speaker 1: I know. So would you rather be on Joe Buck's
17:10
Speaker 1: communication with ESPN or Troy Aikman's communication with ESPN? Because
17:14
Speaker 1: those are two totally separate group techs.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's really crazy, right? Like, I mean, Troy, Troy's
17:22
Speaker 8: got to be still on fire. He's on fire, man.
17:25
Speaker 8: And he's got to work with this guy.
17:27
Speaker 5: Man.
17:28
Speaker 1: Yes. All right. Thank you. Thank you for the call.
17:33
Speaker 1: That is a, an odd situation, but not odder than
17:36
Speaker 1: Andy Reed's Justin Tucker to be his kicker because Harrison
17:41
Speaker 1: Bucker or Bucker isn't any good. Taylor, why are you
17:47
Speaker 1: telling me here? The Jets are going to be in
17:49
Speaker 1: the market for a new head coach. They always are.
17:52
Speaker 1: But why are you telling, you know who the next
17:54
Speaker 1: Jets head coach is going to be? Because you've been
17:55
Speaker 1: walking around telling me, hey, I know who the next
17:58
Speaker 1: Jets head coach is going to be. And I haven't
18:00
Speaker 1: really asked you. I haven't asked any follow-ups because I
18:03
Speaker 1: just don't care. I'm indifferent to the Jets. They make
18:05
Speaker 1: me sick.
18:06
Speaker 6: I think the next Jets head coach is so obvious.
18:09
Speaker 6: It's right in front of our face. It's like once
18:11
Speaker 6: I say the name, you're going to be like, OK,
18:13
Speaker 6: that actually does make sense because we could all agree.
18:15
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn, dead man walking, right?
18:17
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn is done. Aaron Glenn has given up. Aaron
18:20
Speaker 1: Glenn doesn't know the rules. It's the worst indictment. It's
18:23
Speaker 1: the worst thing you could say about a head coach
18:26
Speaker 1: besides them signing Justin Tucker to be their kicker. It's
18:29
Speaker 1: the worst thing you could say about a head coach.
18:31
Speaker 1: He simply does not know down distance and rules.
18:35
Speaker 6: So you hit on the point exactly where the Jets
18:38
Speaker 6: keep hiring coordinators and asking them to learn how to
18:41
Speaker 6: be head coaches on the fly. That's not working, not
18:44
Speaker 6: even in the slightest. And the great late Nipsey Hussle said,
18:47
Speaker 6: sometimes you have to take two steps back to take
18:50
Speaker 6: 10 steps forward.
18:51
Speaker 1: Right.
18:52
Speaker 6: I think the next Jets head coach, Rex Ryan.
18:55
Speaker 1: Never should have left. You're right. It was sitting right
18:57
Speaker 1: there for me.
18:58
Speaker 6: The last time the Jets were relevant, the last Jets
19:01
Speaker 6: head coach who won a playoff game, the last coach
19:04
Speaker 6: who made opposing teams actually fear playing the New York
19:07
Speaker 6: Jets where Rex Ryan, he's going to embrace the expectations.
19:10
Speaker 6: He's going to embrace the media attention and the pressure
19:12
Speaker 6: instead of running for it. so the last time you're
19:16
Speaker 6: you're the jets had any relevancy was rex ryan the
19:19
Speaker 6: consecutive afc championship games back to back in 20 in
19:23
Speaker 6: 2009 and 2010 yeah he wins four road playoff games
19:26
Speaker 6: he beats tom brady he beats bill belichick in foxborough
19:30
Speaker 6: the jet the fact that the jets have not returned
19:33
Speaker 6: to the postseason yep since 2010 yes feels crazy and
19:38
Speaker 6: and people are going to say like rex ryan failed
19:39
Speaker 6: at the end like of course he did that's why
19:41
Speaker 6: he got fired but He failed at the end because
19:44
Speaker 6: the roster got worse. The quarterback situation never really improved
19:48
Speaker 6: going from Mark Sanchez. to Bryce Petty was in there
19:52
Speaker 6: yeah Gino Smith right and then it felt like the
19:54
Speaker 6: general manager and the head coach weren't on the same
19:56
Speaker 6: page and and even when when Rex was failing he
20:00
Speaker 6: was failing pretty spectacularly in New York towards the end
20:03
Speaker 6: right You're still comparing his failures to the peak successes
20:09
Speaker 6: and thinking the next coach could take you back to
20:11
Speaker 6: where Rex Ryan took you. Nobody has come even close.
20:14
Speaker 1: To that standard. No, Rex took me through the greatest
20:17
Speaker 1: two seasons of me being a Jets fan for over
20:22
Speaker 1: 40 years now. Back-to-back AFC championship games. We didn't get
20:25
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. We were close. We didn't get there.
20:28
Speaker 1: We were a game away. There were many big upsets
20:30
Speaker 1: on the road. Here's what I loved about Rex Ryan.
20:33
Speaker 1: He embraced being the Jets coach. He wanted to be
20:36
Speaker 1: the Jets coach, and he still wants to be the
20:39
Speaker 1: Jets coach. He wasn't ashamed of being the Jets coach.
20:42
Speaker 1: He wasn't embarrassed about being the Jets coach. He brought
20:45
Speaker 1: an attitude. He knew the rules. He knew down and distance.
20:48
Speaker 1: He's a great defensive mind. He got the guys motivated.
20:52
Speaker 1: I mean, for two seasons, he made me forget about
20:55
Speaker 1: the 35 lousy seasons before Rex Ryan got there. And
20:59
Speaker 1: he still wants the job. He lobbies for it all
21:01
Speaker 1: the time. And so I think Jet fans would embrace
21:04
Speaker 1: somebody who knows what the hell they're doing, okay, knows
21:08
Speaker 1: down and distance, knows how many timeouts, is going to
21:12
Speaker 1: answer questions honestly in a post-game press conference, is going
21:15
Speaker 1: to handle a halftime interview as well. I think that
21:18
Speaker 1: Jets would sign up, Jet fans would sign up for
21:21
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan right now. And I don't think Jet fans
21:24
Speaker 1: would mind, and I'm speaking on behalf of all Jet fans,
21:27
Speaker 1: if they gave Rex Ryan a lifetime contract to be
21:29
Speaker 1: the head coach. I'm serious, because very few people embrace
21:33
Speaker 1: being the second team in town, playing for that embarrassing
21:37
Speaker 1: organization and that embarrassment of an owner, Woody Johnson. Few
21:41
Speaker 1: people have embraced it the way Rex Ryan has. He
21:44
Speaker 1: was proud of it, he would be proud of it,
21:46
Speaker 1: and he still wants to do it, and Taylor... You
21:48
Speaker 1: are correct, sir. It was sitting right in front of
21:51
Speaker 1: my face.
21:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, the biggest mistake of Rex's first tenure was never
21:54
Speaker 6: really figuring out the offense. So I think if you
21:56
Speaker 6: bring him back, you're not asking him to recreate the
22:00
Speaker 6: 2009 Jets where you're leaning on your defense, you're leaning
22:03
Speaker 6: on your run game. You're hiring him to bring back
22:05
Speaker 6: the identity of those teams while pairing him with some
22:09
Speaker 6: modern offensive mind. And anybody who thinks that hiring Rex
22:12
Speaker 6: Ryan would be out of left field, wrong they they
22:15
Speaker 6: interviewed him in in uh 2025 before eventually hiring aaron
22:21
Speaker 6: glenn yeah so it's obviously something that that woody johnson
22:24
Speaker 6: at the very least has entertained and i think you
22:27
Speaker 6: could say for as bad as the jets have looked
22:29
Speaker 6: at times this year i think their general manager darren
22:33
Speaker 6: has done a pretty good job building the roster where
22:37
Speaker 6: they have young talent at premium positions and They've got
22:40
Speaker 6: three first-round picks next year. They've got a chance to
22:43
Speaker 6: add legitimate franchise-changing players. And just going across to the
22:48
Speaker 6: New York Giants, where you look at what John Harbaugh
22:50
Speaker 6: saw with the Giants the Giants franchise, he didn't need
22:54
Speaker 6: to walk into a team that was already winning. He
22:57
Speaker 6: just needed to see enough pieces in place and believe
23:00
Speaker 6: that he was the guy that could put them together.
23:03
Speaker 6: Why can't Rex Ryan look at the Jets the same
23:06
Speaker 6: way with the young pieces they have and the draft capitals?
23:10
Speaker 1: He can and he should and he would if he
23:13
Speaker 1: were the head coach. It'd be interesting, right? He's the
23:15
Speaker 1: Jets head coach. Harbaugh's the Giants head coach. He used
23:18
Speaker 1: to be Harbaugh's defensive coordinator. But he's not intimidated by Harbaugh.
23:22
Speaker 1: And he doesn't care. And he doesn't care if you
23:24
Speaker 1: make fun of him. And he doesn't care if you
23:26
Speaker 1: make fun of the organization. He's going to bring them stability.
23:29
Speaker 1: He's going to bring them. organization he's going to bring
23:31
Speaker 1: them some toughness and you're right about the gm because
23:35
Speaker 1: the jets for the first time in a long time
23:37
Speaker 1: uh they have three of the top 11 picks in
23:40
Speaker 1: the they control the draft now you can make the
23:42
Speaker 1: jokes they always control the draft and they blow and
23:44
Speaker 1: they always blow it and usually you'd be right but
23:48
Speaker 1: it'd be really hard for anyone to blow what the
23:51
Speaker 1: jets have in front of them and that is three
23:53
Speaker 1: of the top 11 or 12 picks in a draft
23:56
Speaker 1: that is quarterback rich you.
23:58
Speaker 6: Know Yeah, and you just look at Daramuji's track record
24:01
Speaker 6: picking in the first round. Kenyon Sadiq has moments at
24:05
Speaker 6: tight end where he looks like he could be the
24:07
Speaker 6: next version of some kind of Travis Kelsey at the
24:11
Speaker 6: tight end position. Omar Cooper, when he comes back from
24:13
Speaker 6: his injury, Omar Cooper shows flashes at being this next
24:18
Speaker 6: number one receiver. you ultimately probably have to keep Garrett
24:21
Speaker 6: Wilson because Garrett Wilson seems like somebody who's going to
24:24
Speaker 6: want out of town. But you're selling Garrett Wilson on
24:27
Speaker 6: being the number one in New York and being part
24:31
Speaker 6: of this long-term plan for the Jets. I think the
24:37
Speaker 6: running back, Brees Hall. I think Brees Hall is probably
24:40
Speaker 6: somebody that if he was healthy, you would probably try
24:42
Speaker 6: to move on from him this trade deadline.
24:44
Speaker 1: So here's the problem with Rex Ryan getting that job,
24:47
Speaker 1: I think. Even though it's the Jets, even knowing their reputation,
24:55
Speaker 1: even knowing what an embarrassment that organization can be, and Lord,
24:58
Speaker 1: no one knows better than me, okay? That job has
25:02
Speaker 1: become attractive simply, Taylor, because they have three of the
25:06
Speaker 1: first 11, 12 picks in an upcoming draft that's supposed
25:09
Speaker 1: to be a talent-rich draft. It's going to make a
25:13
Speaker 1: job that is not normally attractive to guys like Mike Tomlin.
25:17
Speaker 1: It's going to make that job attractive. I'm not saying
25:19
Speaker 1: Tomlin's going to take the job. I'm not saying that
25:22
Speaker 1: he's going to be interested in taking that job or
25:24
Speaker 1: the Jets are going to be interested in taking Mike Tomlin.
25:27
Speaker 1: But there are enough good players there and enough draft
25:30
Speaker 1: capital where someone that you're not expecting might say to themselves,
25:35
Speaker 1: you know what? I'll take a stab at being the
25:37
Speaker 1: Jets head coach.
25:39
Speaker 6: The biggest difference between the Jets and the Giants last
25:41
Speaker 6: offseason when somebody like John Harbaugh comes in, John Harbaugh
25:45
Speaker 6: was looking at the Giants' structure and the Giants' ownership
25:48
Speaker 6: and saying, I believe in those guys. I've seen this
25:50
Speaker 6: team win in the past where you don't really have
25:52
Speaker 6: that with the Jets and Woody Johnson. But if I'm
25:55
Speaker 6: a Jets fan today, you cannot sell me on another
25:59
Speaker 6: young and upcoming coordinator because what have the Jets done today?
26:03
Speaker 6: in 12 years since rex ryan to make you have
26:07
Speaker 6: any confidence that they're going to hire somebody good in
26:11
Speaker 6: in terms of rebuilding your franchise.
26:13
Speaker 1: No you're right i want established i do uh let's
26:16
Speaker 1: go to sherman oaks dan has something on this what
26:17
Speaker 1: do you have dan.
26:18
Speaker 3: Yeah just to back up your rex ryan support i'm
26:21
Speaker 3: not sure i agree with it or not but the
26:22
Speaker 3: jets have won 12 playoff games in their entire existence
26:25
Speaker 3: as a franchise Rex Ryan is four of those wins.
26:30
Speaker 1: And one in New England.
26:31
Speaker 3: He's 33% of their playoff success in the entire franchise's history,
26:36
Speaker 3: which dates back to 1960. By the way, and you,
26:39
Speaker 3: I think, alluded to this maybe Monday, Stu, of the
26:42
Speaker 3: great Jet head coaches. In the entire history of the franchise,
26:46
Speaker 3: only two head coaches have left with a winning record
26:50
Speaker 3: with the Jets. And one was Al Groh because he
26:53
Speaker 3: was 9-7 in It shows the coaching college the next year.
26:59
Speaker 4: So that's where they are.
27:00
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells is the only coach in Jets history to
27:04
Speaker 3: leave with a record above 500.
27:06
Speaker 4: So even the high points of Rex Ryan.
27:09
Speaker 3: And others that have taken them to the playoffs, they've
27:11
Speaker 3: also then ended usually in a miserable fashion.
27:15
Speaker 1: It's such a great point. Al Groh got a taste
27:17
Speaker 1: of it, and he got a better taste than most.
27:19
Speaker 1: He got a winning record and still decided that Virginia
27:23
Speaker 1: was a better option than coaching the New York Jets.
27:29
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Oh, yes. But, Dan, do you agree with
27:32
Speaker 1: what I'm saying here, that this job will be attractive
27:36
Speaker 1: to people that it normally wouldn't be attractive to just
27:39
Speaker 1: merely because of their draft captain? Yes, 100%. Yes, right.
27:43
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn just felt like the hire when you were
27:46
Speaker 3: talking about Aaron Glenn understands the Jets. He's lived being
27:49
Speaker 3: a Jet. And he's going to bring in that culture
27:52
Speaker 3: from the Lions. And he played for the Jets. And
27:55
Speaker 3: it always felt like it came back to he played
27:57
Speaker 3: for the Jets. And that doesn't really work anymore.
28:03
Speaker 1: But at the beginning, it did work for me. I
28:06
Speaker 1: was grateful. I loved Aaron Glenn as a player. He
28:09
Speaker 1: wanted to be the Jets head coach. And shame on
28:12
Speaker 1: me for going into it thinking that he would know
28:14
Speaker 1: down distance and the rules.
28:15
Speaker 7: When he was high-stepping in Tampa on that blocked kick
28:23
Speaker 7: or whatever it was, we're like, he gets it.
28:26
Speaker 4: This is what Woody Johnson saw. Yes.
28:29
Speaker 6: Dan, the best part about Aaron Glenn is his introduction
28:32
Speaker 6: press conference. He says, I want the Jets to be
28:35
Speaker 6: something people are proud of. And then somebody asked him
28:38
Speaker 6: about that at the end of last season. He goes,
28:40
Speaker 6: I didn't say in year one.
28:44
Speaker 4: You know, let me finish.
28:47
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to stop him. That's why
28:49
Speaker 1: I didn't use the timeouts.
28:50
Speaker 3: Remember he made Aaron Rodgers fly across country to Tom
28:55
Speaker 3: that they didn't want him.
28:56
Speaker 4: Like now I'm like looking at him like, gosh, kind
28:58
Speaker 4: of feel bad for Aaron Rodgers. That's an Aaron Rodgers.
29:00
Speaker 1: Rodgers having the last laugh there, Dan.
29:02
Speaker 3: I mean, The winning percentages here are amazing, like truly.
29:07
Speaker 3: And by the way, from Rex Ryan, it gets worse.
29:09
Speaker 3: 479 for Rex. Mangini, by the way, is winning percentage, 479.
29:13
Speaker 3: Then it was 375 Todd Bowles, Adam Gase, 281, Salah, 357,
29:18
Speaker 3: and Aaron Glenn right now a winning percentage of 176.
29:22
Speaker 1: But, Dan, the expectations are so low there that when
29:25
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan strolls through New York and merely gets you
29:29
Speaker 1: to two AFC championship games with Mark Sanchez, you hold
29:33
Speaker 1: him up as the greatest coach in franchise history because
29:36
Speaker 1: he is.
29:36
Speaker 6: Dan, do you know how low the expectations are? are
29:40
Speaker 6: for the new york jets how low i was doing
29:42
Speaker 6: i was doing this exercise before where i was power
29:45
Speaker 6: ranking the jets head coaches since 2001 Todd Bowles is
29:49
Speaker 6: on the Mount Rushmore.
29:52
Speaker 1: Al Groh should be there.
29:54
Speaker 6: Since 2001.
29:54
Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
29:56
Speaker 6: So I had Rex Ryan was my clear number one.
29:59
Speaker 6: Herm Edwards was number two. Eric Mangini was three. Todd
30:03
Speaker 6: Bowles was four. Robert Sala was five. Adam Gase was six.
30:08
Speaker 6: Gase of the franchise. And then Aaron Glenn, the rear.
30:13
Speaker 1: But they have something that good coaches would want. That's
30:16
Speaker 1: draft capital.
30:17
Speaker 6: The potential of Arch Manning.
30:20
Speaker 1: Yes. Just three first-round draft picks. I mean, just don't
30:24
Speaker 1: screw it up.
30:25
Speaker 4: Herm made the playoffs.
30:26
Speaker 3: Three times in his five seasons and couldn't finish.
30:32
Speaker 1: He's the greatest coach in franchise history, and I'm including
30:35
Speaker 1: Weeb Eubank who won a Super Bowl. Perhaps Dabo Sweeney
30:48
Speaker 1: should use Express Pros. He'll need a job soon, I think. What, Taylor?
30:54
Speaker 1: Why are you shaking your head there?
30:56
Speaker 6: My blood is boiling if I was a Clemson Tiger fan,
30:59
Speaker 6: because it feels like Dabo Sweeney is just daring Clemson
31:03
Speaker 6: to fire him. They had a lifeless performance this past
31:07
Speaker 6: week at home against Virginia Tech. And I have a
31:10
Speaker 6: sound here. This podcast Things in press conferences can be long.
31:14
Speaker 6: A press conference can be long. Things can be taken
31:16
Speaker 6: out of context. But when you're having the season that
31:19
Speaker 6: Dabo Sweeney is having, this is the last thing you
31:23
Speaker 6: want to hear your head coach talking about and taking
31:26
Speaker 6: some great pride in.
31:27
Speaker 5: I am doing great in my fantasy team. In my
31:30
Speaker 5: fantasy life, I'm really in first place. I'm kicking my...
31:35
Speaker 5: I'm winning butt. I'm kicking some butt in that.
31:38
Speaker 2: But.
31:41
Speaker 5: Maybe I should retire and be a full-time fantasy guy.
31:44
Speaker 5: I made a great draft pickup. I got some guy
31:46
Speaker 5: named Tucker from the Raiders, and he.
31:51
Speaker 1: Is killing it.
31:52
Speaker 5: He's making hay every week. I didn't even know who
31:54
Speaker 5: he was. So it's like my big Sweeney family, and
31:58
Speaker 5: they wouldn't let me in it. It's the first year
32:01
Speaker 5: they've let me be in it. And I'm like, well,
32:03
Speaker 5: why can't I be in it? Well, you don't really
32:04
Speaker 5: know what you're doing. They finally let me in it. Yeah, yeah,
32:08
Speaker 5: I'm first place in the league.
32:10
Speaker 1: He is begging to get fired. Dabo Swinney has stopped caring.
32:16
Speaker 6: Stu, when you listen to that coach, you're like, oh,
32:18
Speaker 6: this coach must be ranked in the top 10. I
32:21
Speaker 6: don't need to hear him talking about his fantasy football
32:23
Speaker 6: team when Clemson is 4-3. They lost to Virginia Tech.
32:27
Speaker 6: They got blown out by Miami. They lost to LSU.
32:31
Speaker 6: They got blown out. They should have lost to North
32:33
Speaker 6: Carolina before a weather delay in that game.
32:35
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
32:36
Speaker 1: What I hear is a guy who is secure with
32:38
Speaker 1: his legacy. He knows he's on the way out. He's
32:41
Speaker 1: won a national championship. He's been to the playoffs many times.
32:45
Speaker 1: They've been one of the best programs since Dabo has
32:47
Speaker 1: been there. Granted, it's been bad the last couple of years, okay?
32:50
Speaker 1: I understand that. But it sounds like a guy who
32:53
Speaker 1: was secure with his legacy at Clemson and is also
32:56
Speaker 1: okay with the idea of him not being at Clemson
32:59
Speaker 1: anymore after this season and just playing fantasy football with
33:03
Speaker 1: his family. And I have to be honest about fantasy football.
33:06
Speaker 1: You could have a million things crumbling around you in
33:09
Speaker 1: your life, but if your fantasy football team is good
33:12
Speaker 1: and you picked up Tucker– Everything changes. You go from
33:16
Speaker 1: being a misery to the happiest guy on the planet.
33:19
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels great.
33:20
Speaker 6: Now I'm wondering if Dabo Sweeney getting into his family's
33:24
Speaker 6: fantasy football league has anything to do with Clemson struggling
33:27
Speaker 6: this year, where it's like you look at Mike Tomlin's
33:30
Speaker 6: record before and after he discovered Minecraft. You might be
33:34
Speaker 6: seeing the same nosedive in success. Stu, Clemson at Florida
33:40
Speaker 6: State this week. Florida State's a six and a half
33:42
Speaker 6: point favorite.
33:42
Speaker 8: Wow.
33:43
Speaker 6: I think with Mike Norvell and Dabo Sweeney, just sign
33:46
Speaker 6: this up as a pink slip game. Whoever loses, a
33:49
Speaker 6: loser leaves town game.
33:50
Speaker 1: So how does that work out? So after the game,
33:53
Speaker 1: they lose, they do the postgame presser, they go back
33:56
Speaker 1: to their office, and what's sitting there is just a
33:59
Speaker 1: pink slip.
34:00
Speaker 6: So you know how in rivalry games, the trophy is
34:02
Speaker 6: on the field?
34:03
Speaker 2: Yes.
34:03
Speaker 6: And then the winning team goes to get the trophy
34:05
Speaker 6: after that game?
34:06
Speaker 1: Right, the losing coach goes to get his pink slip?
34:08
Speaker 2: Yes.
34:08
Speaker 6: So I think instead of meeting at midfield for a handshake, Right.
34:13
Speaker 6: the other coach receives a pink slip and the other
34:16
Speaker 6: coach is the one who hands the pink slip.
34:17
Speaker 1: Okay. So if Clemson loses Norvell, rather than shaking Dabo's hand,
34:22
Speaker 1: he just hands him a pink slip. Yes. I could
34:26
Speaker 1: see Dabo at Florida state next year. And Norvell at Clemson,
34:29
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest. Yes. How about that?
34:31
Speaker 6: Like a trading places. Just two coaches that need different sceneries.
34:35
Speaker 7: Yes.
34:35
Speaker 1: And at this point, just based on the sound that
34:37
Speaker 1: I just heard, if they presented that to Dabo this week, hey,
34:40
Speaker 1: you're going to coach Florida State. Norvell's going to coach
34:42
Speaker 1: your team. He'd be like, all right, I'm in. That
34:45
Speaker 1: was my Dabo.
34:47
Speaker 6: Stu, there are 138 teams now at the FBS level
34:51
Speaker 6: in college football.
34:52
Speaker 8: Yeah.
34:53
Speaker 6: Where do you think Clemson ranks out of 138 in
34:56
Speaker 6: terms of passing touchdowns this season?
34:59
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, I don't know, 62.
35:02
Speaker 2: 138.
35:02
Speaker 6: What? They are behind Air Force and Army, who are
35:08
Speaker 6: still stuck in the 1950s running the option.
35:13
Speaker 1: Wait. Army has more, you're saying?
35:17
Speaker 6: Army has three passing touchdowns this season.
35:20
Speaker 1: Right.
35:20
Speaker 6: Clemson has two.
35:22
Speaker 1: Wow. That has to be a record for Army, no?
35:25
Speaker 6: Three passing touchdowns? They're really airing it out this year.
35:28
Speaker 4: Who's that quarterback?
35:30
Speaker 6: It's like a Hellams or something. I watch Army kind
35:32
Speaker 6: of fairly regularly.
35:33
Speaker 1: Get him to Clemson.
35:35
Speaker 6: You'd be an upgrade over Tate Reynolds and Visnia.
35:39
Speaker 1: Do you think that Dabo will be a coach that
35:41
Speaker 1: will be coveted by other universities?
35:43
Speaker 2: No.
35:43
Speaker 1: If indeed he is let go by Clemson.
35:46
Speaker 6: In terms of programs that are at Clemson's level?
35:48
Speaker 1: I'm not saying upper echelon, kind of like the Lincoln-Riley
35:51
Speaker 1: discussion we've had, where maybe he goes to, I don't know,
35:53
Speaker 1: a Baylor or something like that.
35:55
Speaker 2: No.
35:56
Speaker 6: So the difference there is Lincoln-Riley embraces the transfer portal.
36:01
Speaker 6: Lincoln-Riley at least is bringing one of the most effective
36:05
Speaker 6: offenses in the country. I know they struggled against Wisconsin
36:07
Speaker 6: pretty mightily, but at least you have that fallback with
36:11
Speaker 6: Lincoln-Riley that, You're going to most likely have a quarterback
36:13
Speaker 6: that's going to be in Heisman contention. You're going to
36:15
Speaker 6: have an offense that puts up points. For whatever reason,
36:18
Speaker 6: Lincoln Riley cannot figure out the defensive side of the ball.
36:21
Speaker 6: He rotates defensive coordinators. He brings in defensive coordinators that
36:25
Speaker 6: had success elsewhere. He can't get that. Dabo Sweeney has
36:29
Speaker 6: won the national championships. Dabo Sweeney goes to his office,
36:32
Speaker 6: kicks his feet up, and says, if you guys don't
36:35
Speaker 6: like the way I'm doing this without embracing the transfer portal,
36:38
Speaker 6: I'm going to do this my way of recruiting players.
36:40
Speaker 6: high school players and God's name, image, and likeness. I
36:44
Speaker 6: don't really care because I have my national champions to
36:46
Speaker 6: fall back on. I think Lincoln Riley at the very
36:49
Speaker 6: least still has the hunger to be one of the
36:52
Speaker 6: top coaches in college football. Whereas, whereas Dabo Sweeney's been there,
36:56
Speaker 6: done that. He's going to do things his way. He's
36:59
Speaker 6: stuck in trying to win college football games in 2017.
37:02
Speaker 6: All right.
37:03
Speaker 1: That was your Dabo impersonation. I heard it. I heard
37:05
Speaker 1: it creep in there.
37:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.
37:07
Speaker 1: Taylor put this on the poll before we break for
37:09
Speaker 1: our two. Put it on the poll. That's still got
37:12
Speaker 1: 790 on X. Picking up the right fantasy football free agent.
37:16
Speaker 1: Does it make all your other problems go away? We're
37:22
Speaker 1: back after this. Very excited to have Bob Costas coming
37:25
Speaker 1: on the radio show. Taylor, are you excited for Costas?
37:28
Speaker 1: This is special. What a special day. Bob Costas, one
37:31
Speaker 1: of the all-time great broadcasters, is going to join us
37:34
Speaker 1: here in about 15 minutes.
37:36
Speaker 6: You wouldn't want Bob Costas on any other day besides
37:39
Speaker 6: a day after a great World Series game.
37:42
Speaker 1: Yes. We'll talk baseball with him. Poor Dan Beyer, three
37:46
Speaker 1: outs away from winning a World Series. But let's talk J.J.
37:50
Speaker 1: McCarthy here. What is going on here with J.J. McCarthy?
37:54
Speaker 1: and him not wearing eye black against the Texans.
37:56
Speaker 6: So a lot of fans noticed this when J.J. McCarthy
37:59
Speaker 6: took the field against the Texans. They were like, he
38:01
Speaker 6: had this signature look when he was at Michigan overdoing
38:05
Speaker 6: the eye black, and he did not have it against
38:09
Speaker 6: the Texans. And people were like, what is he doing?
38:11
Speaker 6: Apparently the reason why he didn't wear eye black against
38:14
Speaker 6: the Texans is because the quarterback for the Texans, C.J. Shroud,
38:18
Speaker 6: played at Ohio State, and this is a tradition for J.J.
38:22
Speaker 1: McCarthy.
38:23
Speaker 6: Going back to his Michigan days, rooted in his hatred
38:26
Speaker 6: for Ohio State, he wants, he doesn't wear eye black
38:31
Speaker 6: against former Ohio State quarterbacks. because he wants them to
38:35
Speaker 6: look him directly in the eyes.
38:37
Speaker 1: What a weird guy. This J.J. McCarthy, man. He's got
38:42
Speaker 1: some stones for a guy who hasn't done a whole
38:44
Speaker 1: lot in the NFL. So J.J.
38:46
Speaker 6: McCarthy grew up a diehard Ohio State fan, and he
38:50
Speaker 6: claims that Ryan Day promised to not accept another quarterback's
38:53
Speaker 6: commitment before the end of the summer of 2019, but
38:56
Speaker 6: Day accepted Kyle McCord's commitment in April, and McCarthy felt betrayed.
39:01
Speaker 1: Yes.
39:02
Speaker 6: So he deliberately... During his time in Ann Arbor, stop
39:06
Speaker 6: wearing eye black against Ohio State.
39:08
Speaker 1: Right.
39:09
Speaker 6: Because he wanted them to see him clearly.
39:11
Speaker 1: So Ryan Day could look him right in the eye.
39:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:14
Speaker 1: And you're like J.J.
39:15
Speaker 6: McCarthy, like he has a screw loose. But the record
39:19
Speaker 6: kind of backs it up where he was three and
39:20
Speaker 6: oh against Ohio State at Michigan. And then nobody really
39:25
Speaker 6: gave them a chance this week against the Texans to
39:28
Speaker 6: where now I'm starting to want am I too high
39:32
Speaker 6: on J.J.
39:32
Speaker 1: McCarthy?
39:33
Speaker 6: Because can J.J. McCarthy bottle up this hatred every week,
39:37
Speaker 6: the hatred that he has for Ohio State?
39:39
Speaker 1: What I'm starting to wonder is if the eye black
39:42
Speaker 1: is getting in the way.
39:45
Speaker 6: Stu, that is such a great point.
39:48
Speaker 1: Because J.J.
39:48
Speaker 6: McCarthy- in that game against the Texans, made throws that
39:53
Speaker 6: we have not seen him even come close to completing.
39:57
Speaker 1: And what wasn't he wearing?
39:59
Speaker 4: Eye black.
39:59
Speaker 1: And when he beat Michigan three times, what wasn't he wearing?
40:02
Speaker 6: Eye black.
40:04
Speaker 1: Why is he wearing eye black against anyone then?
40:07
Speaker 6: But do you have concerns if, say he goes back
40:11
Speaker 6: to wearing the eye black, and maybe the eye black's
40:13
Speaker 6: not the issue.
40:14
Speaker 1: Right.
40:14
Speaker 6: He has to find a way to bottle up his
40:16
Speaker 6: hatred for Ohio State. It's almost like the water boy.
40:19
Speaker 6: Remember Bobby Boucher? He would envision the guy who talked
40:24
Speaker 6: crap about his mom every time, even if it wasn't
40:27
Speaker 6: going against that.
40:28
Speaker 1: He would do that to get himself to a very
40:30
Speaker 1: angry place where he would tear that guy's head off.
40:34
Speaker 1: Like J.J. McCarthy.
40:35
Speaker 6: I know the Giants have a bye this week, but
40:38
Speaker 6: when J.J. McCarthy comes out of the next bye week,
40:41
Speaker 6: And it's against the Eagles Sunday, November 8th game.
40:46
Speaker 1: Devonta Smith? No, he's Alabama. I'm thinking of the Ohio
40:49
Speaker 1: State guy who's on that team.
40:51
Speaker 6: I think when he sees Nick Sirianni, he just has
40:54
Speaker 6: to imagine it's Ryan Day.
40:58
Speaker 1: So what you're saying, in the spirit of the water boy,
41:02
Speaker 1: Bobby Boucher, is that J.J. McCarthy needs to go into
41:06
Speaker 1: every game envisioning, imagining that the opposing team's head coach
41:11
Speaker 1: is Ryan Day. He's always playing against Ryan Day.
41:14
Speaker 6: It's where he's had the most success in his career.
41:19
Speaker 1: And the opposing quarterback is always CJ Stroud. Yes.
41:22
Speaker 6: Stu JJ McCarthy was basically left for dead in Minnesota
41:27
Speaker 6: where everybody wrote him off. And even when he comes
41:30
Speaker 6: to the giants, it's like, Oh, they have Jameis Winston. Will,
41:33
Speaker 6: will he get a chance? And then he gets a
41:35
Speaker 6: chance on Sunday. And he looked like a completely different quarterback.
41:40
Speaker 6: One that I think that, like, best case scenario, when
41:43
Speaker 6: the Vikings drafted him out of Michigan, that was the
41:46
Speaker 6: quarterback they envisioned having.
41:48
Speaker 1: Yes. Literally. He looked like a different quarterback with no
41:51
Speaker 1: eye black. No eye black. A totally different person with
41:54
Speaker 1: the eye black. It's too much. Even when he wears it,
41:58
Speaker 1: if he wants to go back to it, that's fine.
41:59
Speaker 1: I'd never go back to it again. I'm with you.
42:02
Speaker 1: I would imagine every coach to be Ryan Day and
42:04
Speaker 1: every quarterback to be CJ Stroud and every week to
42:08
Speaker 1: be Michigan and Ohio State. That's what I would do
42:10
Speaker 1: to get myself to an angry place if I'm JJ McCarthy.
42:14
Speaker 1: If he goes back to it though, and he shouldn't,
42:16
Speaker 1: but if he does, he's got to tone it down.
42:18
Speaker 1: He just, just put one line under one eye, one
42:22
Speaker 1: line under the other eye and just go play football, man.
42:25
Speaker 6: When did that start becoming a trend with, with people
42:28
Speaker 6: in football where it used to be like the strips
42:30
Speaker 6: or remember the strips.
42:31
Speaker 1: That you would put under course.
42:32
Speaker 6: And then the giants quarterback room is like the prime
42:36
Speaker 6: example for eye black, where you have JJ McCarthy overdoing
42:39
Speaker 6: it on under both eyes. And then Jackson dart has the, uh,
42:42
Speaker 6: The Star Wars Scar Eye Black.
42:46
Speaker 1: Just be a quarterback.
42:46
Speaker 6: Just be a quarterback. It feels like until you win
42:50
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, just go two strips if you really
42:53
Speaker 6: need Eye Black.
42:54
Speaker 1: Put it on the poll. If you're 3-0 against Michigan
42:57
Speaker 1: without the Eye Black, should you ever go back to
42:59
Speaker 1: the Eye Black again? That feels like that should come
43:02
Speaker 1: back 100%. Why would you? I mean, why would you
43:06
Speaker 1: go back to it? I know he wants to look intimidating.
43:09
Speaker 1: I know he's a different person off the field than
43:11
Speaker 1: he is. on the field and he gets himself to
43:13
Speaker 1: a crazy place but it seems like getting himself to
43:16
Speaker 1: a crazy place ain't working just get yourself to a
43:19
Speaker 1: crazy place where you think you're playing Ohio State every
43:22
Speaker 1: weekend and do away with the eye black that's it
43:25
Speaker 1: I think that's the trick for JJ McCarthy. I think
43:27
Speaker 1: the Giants are going to win that division, Taylor. I
43:29
Speaker 1: really do. I mean.
43:30
Speaker 6: Stu, after watching the Monday night football game against the
43:33
Speaker 6: Eagles Cowboys.
43:34
Speaker 1: Bad teams.
43:35
Speaker 6: I feel even better about the Giants. Like, I think
43:38
Speaker 6: the Giants, the magic number, you're looking at the NFC
43:42
Speaker 6: East standings right now. It feels like the Giants magic
43:47
Speaker 6: number is going to be getting to nine wins.
43:49
Speaker 1: Yes.
43:50
Speaker 6: And then if you get to nine wins, the Cowboys
43:53
Speaker 6: have to one up you because you have the tiebreaker
43:56
Speaker 6: with them as it currently stands.
43:58
Speaker 1: And if you look at the Cowboys schedule, it's hard
43:59
Speaker 1: to imagine them getting to 10 wins. It really is.
44:02
Speaker 1: I mean, it's tricky. It's a difficult schedule.
44:04
Speaker 6: The problem that you run into, it's hard to imagine
44:06
Speaker 6: any team in that division getting to 10 wins.
44:08
Speaker 1: Well, you thought it would be the Eagles. Yes.
44:10
Speaker 3: Yes.
44:11
Speaker 6: And somehow the team that you feel the most confident
44:14
Speaker 6: about right now is John Harbaugh and just the culture
44:18
Speaker 6: that he brings and the stability that he brings to
44:20
Speaker 6: New York.
44:21
Speaker 1: What's amazing about this division, and it's amazing because the
44:24
Speaker 1: Cowboys have the most stability at quarterback, at least for
44:26
Speaker 1: right now. But I don't think the Giants, once Jackson
44:29
Speaker 1: Dart went down, ever anticipated being in a position where
44:32
Speaker 1: they might have the second best quarterback in that division.
44:37
Speaker 1: And yet here we are. And now if you take
44:39
Speaker 1: off the eye black, he might be better than Dak Prescott.
44:42
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible. And all the people, I said
44:45
Speaker 1: this yesterday, who wanted to run Joe Shane out of town,
44:48
Speaker 1: guess what? He saved your season. He picked up the phone,
44:51
Speaker 1: he called the quarterback whisperer, and gave him a fifth-round
44:55
Speaker 1: pick to get a quarterback who was saving your season.
44:59
Speaker 6: So I know Cam Scadaboo had a little revival in
45:01
Speaker 6: the game against the Texans, but if I'm Joe Shane today,
45:04
Speaker 6: I'm getting on the phone. Get Jonathan Taylor there, get
45:06
Speaker 6: Tony Pollard there, strengthen that running back room, and go
45:10
Speaker 6: for it.
45:10
Speaker 1: The Colts are trading everyone, and guys are asking out.
45:13
Speaker 1: You see that? Josh Downs. Guys who they're not even
45:15
Speaker 1: wanting to trade are saying, hey, we want out of here.
45:17
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor hasn't done it yet, but he will. or
45:21
Speaker 1: let his agent do the talking for him, which is
45:24
Speaker 1: probably the better route for Jonathan Taylor. So interesting. J.J. McCarthy.
45:31
Speaker 1: never did I think we would have a discussion about
45:33
Speaker 1: not wearing eye black, but here we are.
45:35
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46:01
Speaker 1: last segment. What a thrill to have him on. Taylor,
46:04
Speaker 1: I am told here, now you know I'm not paying
46:06
Speaker 1: attention to soccer, okay? But I am told there was
46:10
Speaker 1: a monster upset, possibly the biggest upset in the history
46:13
Speaker 1: of the sport, not just that sport, any sport. What
46:16
Speaker 1: the hell happened in soccer? Because you don't normally see
46:19
Speaker 1: these when a, you know, Davey versus Goliath and the
46:23
Speaker 1: monster doesn't win. I mean, so what happened here?
46:25
Speaker 6: So the David versus Goliath example is the best example
46:29
Speaker 6: you could have given, Stu.
46:30
Speaker 1: Why did I make him Davey?
46:31
Speaker 4: Davey Crockett.
46:33
Speaker 1: Davey Johnson.
46:35
Speaker 6: So Arsenal in the EFL Cup. The defending Premier League
46:40
Speaker 6: champions went up against Fleetwood Town.
46:43
Speaker 5: Yes.
46:44
Speaker 6: And Fleetwood Town scores early to go up 1-0.
46:47
Speaker 1: Right. Shocking everyone.
46:49
Speaker 6: Arsenal equalizes 1-1.
46:51
Speaker 5: Ah.
46:52
Speaker 6: And then it goes to penalties, and Fleetwood Town wins
46:55
Speaker 6: on penalties to advance. And just to show the comparison,
47:00
Speaker 6: Arsenal's roster is worth $ 1. 5 billion.
47:04
Speaker 1: So Arsenal is spending $ 1. 5 billion on its soccer team,
47:09
Speaker 1: on the players who play for that soccer team. Yes.
47:11
Speaker 6: And they're the defending Premier League champions.
47:13
Speaker 1: So they're the Dodgers, essentially. Yes.
47:16
Speaker 6: And Fleetwood Town's roster?
47:17
Speaker 5: Yes.
47:18
Speaker 6: Three million dollars.
47:19
Speaker 1: Get out of here. That's an upset. I mean, are
47:23
Speaker 1: they in the same league? I don't know. I don't
47:25
Speaker 1: get it. So the exhibition match. What was this?
47:28
Speaker 6: So the friendly. I mean, OK, the EFL Cup, the
47:32
Speaker 6: Caribou Cup. So it features 92 teams from England's top
47:36
Speaker 6: four professional divisions. The Premier League has 20 teams. The
47:40
Speaker 6: next level is the championship, which is 24 teams. The
47:43
Speaker 6: next level is League 1, 24 teams. The next level,
47:47
Speaker 6: the last level, is League 2, 24 teams. So all
47:51
Speaker 6: 92 clubs are eligible for the EFL Cup. But the
47:54
Speaker 6: Premier League teams enter in the later rounds because they
47:57
Speaker 6: don't want, you know, the Manchester Uniteds, the Liverpools having
48:00
Speaker 6: to go up against these Joe Schmoes. But Fleetwood Town
48:04
Speaker 6: advanced to face Arsenal when Arsenal's getting into the tournament.
48:09
Speaker 1: Right.
48:10
Speaker 6: And then they knocked them out in front of their
48:12
Speaker 6: stadium of just 5,000 people.
48:14
Speaker 1: So they keep— wow. So they keep— it was a home game?
48:17
Speaker 6: It was a home match for Fleetwood Town. I think they—
48:20
Speaker 6: I think once they have the matchups, it's just random.
48:23
Speaker 6: Who's the home team in it.
48:24
Speaker 1: Okay. So this is confusing to me. So they're all
48:28
Speaker 1: in the same league, but they keep the better teams
48:31
Speaker 1: around because they want the big brands in the later rounds.
48:34
Speaker 1: They don't want to risk an upset here. Right.
48:36
Speaker 6: They're all, they're all in the same tournament. So they're
48:39
Speaker 6: not all in the same leagues like Fleetwood town and
48:41
Speaker 6: Arsenal would never play each other in the regular season.
48:45
Speaker 1: Right.
48:45
Speaker 6: They would only play each other in this cup. Like,
48:48
Speaker 6: The NFL equivalent, I have an NFL equivalent to it,
48:51
Speaker 6: to put this in football.
48:52
Speaker 1: Terms for you. Okay, thank you.
48:54
Speaker 6: Let's say the NFL is the Premier League.
48:56
Speaker 1: Some would say we're discussing football, but anyway, go ahead.
49:01
Speaker 6: So let's say the NFL is the Premier League.
49:03
Speaker 1: Okay.
49:04
Speaker 6: College football, D1 football, is the championship.
49:08
Speaker 1: Right.
49:08
Speaker 6: The second division.
49:09
Speaker 2: Right.
49:10
Speaker 6: D2 football is League One.
49:12
Speaker 1: Okay.
49:12
Speaker 6: The third division. D3 football... is League Two, the fourth division.
49:18
Speaker 6: Arsenal losing to Fleetwood Township is the equivalent in this
49:21
Speaker 6: scenario to the defending Super Bowl champions, the Seattle Seahawks,
49:26
Speaker 6: losing to a sub-500 D3 team.
49:27
Speaker 2: What?
49:27
Speaker 7: Yes.
49:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. Get out of here.
49:33
Speaker 6: Like before the match, I think the pre-match odds, Arsenal
49:37
Speaker 6: to advance was like minus $ 2, 000.
49:39
Speaker 1: Right.
49:40
Speaker 6: So you have to bet $ 2, 000 just to win $ 100 back.
49:43
Speaker 6: And then Fleetwood Town on the money line was like
49:45
Speaker 6: plus $ 3, 000. All right.
49:47
Speaker 1: So this would be like the Dodgers losing to a
49:49
Speaker 1: single A. Single A. Yes. Are you kidding me?
49:53
Speaker 6: But it would be like.
49:54
Speaker 1: Wait, so how did Fleetwood get home field advantage here?
49:57
Speaker 1: I don't get it. If you want Arsenal to advance
49:59
Speaker 1: and you don't want to run the risk of them
50:01
Speaker 1: losing a match like they did to Fleetwood Town, why
50:05
Speaker 1: is Arsenal not playing at home? I mean.
50:07
Speaker 6: So I'm pretty sure in the EFL Cup or the
50:10
Speaker 6: Caribou Cup, they draw teams to see what the matchups are.
50:14
Speaker 6: So once you get to, like, the round of 16,
50:16
Speaker 6: they'll have a day where it's just announcing the upcoming
50:19
Speaker 6: matchups where they pull out of, like, a... a lottery thing.
50:23
Speaker 6: And it's like the first team is Arsenal. And then
50:25
Speaker 6: the second team and the second team, I guess, or
50:28
Speaker 6: the first team in this scenario, whatever team is, is
50:31
Speaker 6: drawn first or second is going to be the designated
50:33
Speaker 6: home team.
50:34
Speaker 8: Right?
50:34
Speaker 6: So Fleetwood town was just the designated home team in
50:37
Speaker 6: this scenario. So, And, Stu, the scenes from Fleetwood Town,
50:43
Speaker 6: their crowd was buzzing. They're storming the field after a.
50:46
Speaker 1: Game, basically. Yes, well, they should. They just beat the Yankees.
50:49
Speaker 1: I mean, they beat the Mets. And I say the
50:53
Speaker 1: Mets only because the Mets spend a billion dollars. They're
50:55
Speaker 1: not very good, just like Arsenal.
50:57
Speaker 6: The competition is single elimination, so it gets to the
51:01
Speaker 6: scenario where Some of these teams have to prioritize, like,
51:04
Speaker 6: do we want to focus on our Premier League season,
51:08
Speaker 6: like Arsenal trying to defend their title from last year,
51:12
Speaker 6: or do we want to put out a strong team?
51:14
Speaker 6: By all accounts, Arsenal did put out a pretty strong
51:16
Speaker 6: team when they went to Fleetwood Town. Every time I
51:19
Speaker 6: hear Fleetwood Town, I just think of Fleetwood Mac.
51:21
Speaker 1: So do I, or Tommy Fleetwood, yes.
51:23
Speaker 3: Wow.
51:26
Speaker 1: So Fleetwood's just a town that put together their best
51:28
Speaker 1: soccer players, essentially.
51:30
Speaker 7: Yeah.
51:32
Speaker 6: It's like the example of, like, imagine, like, again, the
51:37
Speaker 6: minor league example is great. Like, if I had to
51:39
Speaker 6: guess this Fleetwood town, very few players on that team
51:43
Speaker 6: are playing soccer, like, full-time professionally. Like, I think they're
51:47
Speaker 6: driving Uber on the side. They're doing DoorDash on the side,
51:50
Speaker 6: whatever the English equivalents of those are.
51:53
Speaker 1: Yes.
51:53
Speaker 6: I guess they have... Do they have DoorDash?
51:55
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It's a good question.
51:57
Speaker 6: They definitely have Uber.
51:58
Speaker 1: Right.
51:59
Speaker 6: Ricardo just said they have DoorDash. He said it so
52:01
Speaker 6: confidently that I'm now hoping they don't have DoorDash.
52:04
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're saying it's like the early 1900s where,
52:07
Speaker 1: you know, Babe Ruth would play baseball and then to
52:09
Speaker 1: make ends meet, he would be a milkman.
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Speaker 6: His shift at the sawmill, yes.
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Speaker 1: Can we get someone from Fleetwood Town on? Anyone.
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Speaker 6: We want to crown them our champions, our soccer champions.
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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them. I'm a soccer fan now. Fleetwood
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Speaker 1: Town has made me a soccer fan. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: love the beautiful game.
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Speaker 6: Unreal upset.
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Speaker 1: Wait, so did they get Arsenal's best? Did their best
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Speaker 1: players play, or did Arsenal take Fleetwood Town too lightly
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Speaker 1: and put in a bunch of scrubs? Which it doesn't matter,
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Speaker 1: by the way. Their scrubs are probably better than anyone
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Speaker 1: on Fleetwood Town.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Fleetwood is currently 18th in the fourth level
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Speaker 6: of English soccer. They're not a good team even for
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Speaker 6: their standards where they're playing. My guess is Arsenal held
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Speaker 6: back a couple of punches in their starting lineup where
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Speaker 6: you wouldn't expect them to put out their best squad.
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Speaker 6: They're going up against the Manchester Uniteds or the Manchester Citys.
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Speaker 6: Because there's never really been a great example of them
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Speaker 6: not needing to. And then you have scenes like last
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Speaker 6: night in the English soccer, man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is, listen, there's a lesson to be learned here.
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Speaker 1: Don't take Fleetwood Town lightly. Do you feel like Fleetwood Town,
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Speaker 1: much like the Knicks where you said, where I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm good with the Knicks never winning a championship again.
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Speaker 1: Do you think the fans of Fleetwood Town and the
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Speaker 1: team are okay if they never win another soccer game
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Speaker 1: again because they beat Arsenal?
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Speaker 6: They have this for the rest of their lives. I
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Speaker 6: was thinking about this, too, when I'm watching Fleetwood Town,
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Speaker 6: because their supporters were, like, fully invested into this, where
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Speaker 6: it's like, I don't understand the English soccer fandom, where
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Speaker 6: how do you grow up to be a Fleetwood Town fan?
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Speaker 1: Well, you have no choice. I mean... But, like, you.
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Speaker 6: Would have to imagine. It would be like us trying to, like, say, oh,
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Speaker 6: I'm not a Dodger fan. I'm a Chihuahua fan, like
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Speaker 6: a single-A team. Like, how do you even find those
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Speaker 6: games on TV? Just because you grew up in the area,
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Speaker 6: that's the team you support. And I guess you're just
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Speaker 6: hoping for the off chance that one day they could
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Speaker 6: get promoted.
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Speaker 1: I guess. Where is Fleetwood Town? Do we know? I mean.
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Speaker 6: It's in Lancaster.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 6: Lancashire. Say it on the mic. I don't know how
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Speaker 6: to say that. Lancashire, I think. It's an English name. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: it looks like Lancashire, but it's definitely not Lancashire.
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Speaker 1: Well, it could be Lancashire. We have no idea. I
54:43
Speaker 1: want to make a trip there. I want to do
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Speaker 1: a live remote from their next game. So they advance
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Speaker 1: and Arsenal is done. It's the biggest upset in the
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Speaker 1: history of the sport.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, cup set.
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Speaker 1: This is like the United States hockey team beating the Russians, correct?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, where no matter who Fleetwood Town plays in the
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Speaker 6: next round, like to your point earlier, their fans, they
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Speaker 6: have it made. They'll always have this one night in October.
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Speaker 1: Right, but do you think there's someone doing afternoon drive
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Speaker 1: in Fleetwood Town?
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Speaker 6: Oh, they're buzzing today. The phone lines are open. They're
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Speaker 6: getting 30 shares.
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Speaker 1: I know, but now there's expectations. And congratulations to the
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Speaker 1: guys getting 30 shares in Fleetwood Town. Lancaster, I think.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. but congratulations to those guys. Big day,
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Speaker 1: biggest day in the history of sports radio there. I guarantee.
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Speaker 1: Do you think Taylor? Because their drive is afternoon drive host. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Celebrate when things are going well and complain when they're not.
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Speaker 1: If God forbid. Fleetwood Town is down 4-0 in their
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Speaker 1: next match. Do you think the afternoon drive hosts are
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Speaker 1: going to let them hear it? I mean.
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Speaker 6: I don't think you can. I think your players are
55:52
Speaker 6: still drunk on the title. It's like Mikkel Bridges coming
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Speaker 6: back for the start of this Knicks season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we beat Arsenal. I mean, you fire the manager,
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Speaker 1: what do you do there? You have to do something
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Speaker 1: if you're on sports radio.
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Speaker 6: Soccer, they'll fire a manager at a whim just because
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Speaker 6: they want to fire a manager that day. Would you
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Speaker 6: rather be... a host in Fleetwood town today, or would
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Speaker 6: you rather be a host in London where Arsenal plays?
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Speaker 6: Because even if they weren't playing their, their best squad, right?
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Speaker 6: Like those hosts are, are ripping Arsenal today.
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Speaker 1: Wow. That's a great question. I mean, you get more
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Speaker 1: calls if you're doing the show in Arsenal, you know,
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Speaker 1: celebrations don't tend to, to give you a lot of calls,
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Speaker 1: but firing a coach and questioning a team and their heart,
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Speaker 1: and their character, and if they played their best players,
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Speaker 1: and if they took a team lightly. Listen, the guys
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Speaker 1: in Fleetwood, all right, they're getting 20 shares. The guys
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Speaker 1: who do radio, where's Arsenal? London. In London, I am
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Speaker 1: telling you right now, 60 shares. 60% of men, 25
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Speaker 1: to 54, who live in London are listening to Arsenal.
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Speaker 6: I am not joking you when I tell you this,
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Speaker 6: Fleetwood Town.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I would imagine you have the funds to buy Fleetwood
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Speaker 6: Town if you wanted to.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to buy the club.
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Speaker 6: Wow, that's how we get into soccer.
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Speaker 1: Let's wait for a loss, though.