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Familiar Stranger - The One I Thought I Knew Pt 1 (Marriage Reset Series) - 247 · Marriage Life and More and Bible Study

• 0:06
  Daniel Moore: It's very important because I will, I do, I will push and push to do as much as possible, you know, with what I feel like needs to be done or what I feel like God's leading us to do.
• 0:15
  Daniel Moore: But I usually push until you communicate to me that, okay, this is my limit for the moment.
• 0:22
  Michelle Moore: Oh great, now I know that, so I'm going to start saying that.
• 0:24
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
• 0:26
  Michelle Moore: I feel like it's my cup is full.
• 0:27
  Daniel Moore: She knows the cycle we've been going through.
• 0:30
  Daniel Moore: My cup is full, but I have learned enough, though, through the past, with everything that we've been through, to know that when you finally sit down and talk, I sit down and listen.
• 0:40
  Daniel Moore: This week, on Marriage Life More more, we're going to be starting a brand new series we've called marriage reset how to go from roommates back to being soul mates in your marriage.
• 0:53
  Daniel Moore: We'll be back with the first episode of this series right after this the Welcome to Marriage Life and More.
• 1:34
  Daniel Moore: This is a podcast about marriage, bible and book studies, and we interview people that have inspiring, awesome stories.
• 1:41
  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, your host, and, as usual, got my beautiful wife Michelle sitting over here.
• 1:45
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• 2:24
  Daniel Moore: Well, as I mentioned here in the beginning, we've been kind of talking about this actually over a few weeks now that we had a series coming up, and this is the week we're going to be starting this new series that we've called Marriage Reset, and when I was getting ready to put this together, I just I came across, was getting ready to put this together.
• 2:47
  Daniel Moore: I just I came across a book about this and I just got to thinking you know, you and I went through this exact thing up to the point to where we almost got divorced and we technically, you know, could look at our relationship to where we almost just became roommates, in the way that we treated each other and the way that things happen.
• 3:04
  Daniel Moore: I know a lot of times people slip into that mode of being like a roommate instead of a soulmate without even realizing it, and there are a lot of signs for that, on things to watch for in your relationship to try to stay proactive and make sure that you don't let your marriage slip into that rut, and we're going to be talking about a lot of that over the next weeks here.
• 3:26
  Daniel Moore: I don't.
• 3:26
  Daniel Moore: This is probably it's going to be an extended series.
• 3:28
  Daniel Moore: I don't know how long it's going to be for sure there's 12 episodes, but I think some of the episodes are going to be more than one.
• 3:34
  Daniel Moore: They'll have different parts to them.
• 3:36
  Daniel Moore: So we're just going to go through this slowly and try to hopefully mend some marriages.
• 3:41
  Daniel Moore: God wants to work in your marriage and he wants you to be the soulmates that he intended you to be when he made those plans for you to be together.
• 3:50
  Daniel Moore: And the people unfortunately, when you think about it, the people that messes up their marriages are usually the people that's in the marriage.
• 3:57
  Daniel Moore: They're the ones that fail and do things that they shouldn't and kind of let things get stagnant sometimes.
• 4:03
  Daniel Moore: So we're going to be starting off this series this week with our first episode, and this title for this episode is Familiar, stranger, the one I thought I knew.
• 4:23
  Michelle Moore: I feel like we're just two people doing life side by side.
• 4:27
  Michelle Moore: I mean, I love you, I really do, but it feels like we're running separate lives.
• 4:31
  Michelle Moore: We've lost that spark.
• 4:33
  Michelle Moore: We're not partners anymore, we're housemates.
• 4:36
  Michelle Moore: Those were the words Lena blurted out one night during what they had become their ritual of silently watching TV while scrolling through their phones.
• 4:46
  Michelle Moore: They weren't sad with anger, just quiet ache, as they landed, with the force of a wrecking ball, in Caleb's chest.
• 4:54
  Michelle Moore: The irony was brutal.
• 4:57
  Michelle Moore: Caleb and Lena had been leading marriage workshops for nearly a decade.
• 5:01
  Michelle Moore: They were licensed therapists, had authored several books on communication and intimacy and hosted a Christian podcast.
• 5:10
  Michelle Moore: They were the couple people came to for advice.
• 5:14
  Michelle Moore: But the truth, they were struggling to feel connected themselves.
• 5:18
  Michelle Moore: Caleb looked up from the couch and whispered wow, I didn't realize.
• 5:22
  Michelle Moore: You felt that alone.
• 5:24
  Michelle Moore: Lena could see in his eyes that the words hit deep, not because they were new, but because he suddenly realized how true they were.
• 5:32
  Michelle Moore: But their marriage hadn't always felt like this.
• 5:35
  Michelle Moore: When they were first dating, they were inseparable, madly in love and hilariously overconfident.
• 5:42
  Michelle Moore: They would never forget the time, a few months before their wedding, when they decided to take a road trip from Charleston, south Carolina, to Lena's hometown of Knoxville, tennessee.
• 5:53
  Michelle Moore: They thought it would be fun and romantic.
• 5:56
  Michelle Moore: Plus, it'd give Caleb a chance to haul some of Lena's stuff in his dad's borrowed pickup.
• 6:02
  Michelle Moore: The plan was simple Drive eight hours, grab dinner with her parents and start wedding planning in earnest.
• 6:10
  Michelle Moore: Caleb showed up that morning with a truck loaded a giant bag of trail mix and a very questionable playlist labeled Lena plus.
• 6:17
  Michelle Moore: Road trip equals love.
• 6:19
  Michelle Moore: I made this for us, he said proudly.
• 6:22
  Michelle Moore: She listened for two minutes.
• 6:24
  Michelle Moore: Babe, why are there three versions of life is a highway on here?
• 6:29
  Michelle Moore: He grinned and he said because life is a highway and this is our highway.
• 6:36
  Michelle Moore: They took off down I-26, high on caffeine and low practical skills.
• 6:41
  Michelle Moore: Within the first hour Caleb accidentally ran over a construction cone, missed two exits and spilled a Dr Pepper on his lap.
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  Michelle Moore: Still, they laughed the whole way.
• 6:52
  Michelle Moore: They were building memories.
• 7:00
  Michelle Moore: So what if they were chaotic?
• 7:00
  Michelle Moore: But just about four hours in, the truck started sputtering.
• 7:02
  Michelle Moore: They pulled into a restaurant near Asheville and Caleb popped the hood, pretending like he knew what he was doing.
• 7:09
  Michelle Moore: Want me to YouTube it?
• 7:12
  Michelle Moore: Lena said I got this.
• 7:14
  Michelle Moore: He said confidently, pulling out the truck's manual like it was a treasure map.
• 7:19
  Michelle Moore: Ten minutes later the battery had died and they were stranded.
• 7:23
  Michelle Moore: I'll just call my dad.
• 7:25
  Michelle Moore: He muttered You're 27,.
• 7:28
  Michelle Moore: Lena teased I think maybe it's time for AAA.
• 7:33
  Michelle Moore: They spent the next three hours waiting for a tow truck, sitting in the cab of a dead pickup, watching the sunset over the mountains and eating an absurd amount of trail mix.
• 7:43
  Michelle Moore: They didn't talk about wedding details, or even the broken truck.
• 7:48
  Michelle Moore: They talked about their dreams how they wanted to raise kids, serve in ministry, open a counseling center someday.
• 7:56
  Michelle Moore: It felt like everything was ahead of them, wide open and waiting.
• 8:00
  Michelle Moore: When the tow truck finally dropped them at a tiny roadside motel in the middle of nowhere, they were too exhausted to care.
• 8:08
  Michelle Moore: The room had one flickering light bulb, flower curtains that had been washed since the Clinton administration and a bed that squeaked if you even looked at it.
• 8:18
  Michelle Moore: But they collapsed into that bed fully clothed and laughed until they cried.
• 8:24
  Michelle Moore: The next morning Caleb realized the reason the truck died wasn't the battery.
• 8:29
  Michelle Moore: It was because he accidentally pumped diesel into a regular gas engine.
• 8:34
  Michelle Moore: I thought diesel was stronger.
• 8:36
  Michelle Moore: He defended himself, rubbing his forehead.
• 8:38
  Michelle Moore: Stronger doesn't mean smarter, lena said.
• 8:42
  Michelle Moore: Snorting into her coffee doesn't mean smarter, lena said snorting into her coffee.
• 8:48
  Michelle Moore: That moment become a metaphor for them.
• 8:49
  Michelle Moore: They started off strong, but somewhere along the way they stopped checking what they were pouring into their marriage.
• 8:54
  Michelle Moore: They filled it with work, ministry, kids schedules and checklists, but not each other, and eventually the engine started to stall.
• 9:05
  Michelle Moore: The conversation on the couch, where Lena admitted her feeling alone, wasn't the end of their story, but it was a turning point.
• 9:14
  Michelle Moore: They made some changes weekly date nights, phone down after 8 pm, monthly check-ins where they ask each other how's your heart?
• 9:24
  Michelle Moore: Nothing fancy, just intentional.
• 9:26
  Michelle Moore: And sometimes they go back and listen to.
• 9:29
  Michelle Moore: Life is a Highway all three different versions Because when you're wildly in love at the beginning, even breakdowns feel like adventures.
• 9:38
  Michelle Moore: But staying connected through real life, that takes effort, laughter, grace and willingness to admit when your engine needs a reset.
• 9:50
  Daniel Moore: And that's a cute little story to start out this series with.
• 9:53
  Daniel Moore: And I think there's a lot packed into that story Because it shows how, over the time of a marriage, how we both know how it was when we first started pursuing each other, and the butterflies, the excitement at the next date, and then we'd have the dream talks.
• 10:16
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, happiness, laughter, yeah the dreams that we looked forward to in our life.
• 10:20
  Daniel Moore: And what's funny is, here we are, over 20, 25, 26 years later and it's easy to look back now and think well, you know, half them dreams never even came true and as, to be honest about it, a lot of the the path that our life took we, we never expected it to, you know.
• 10:39
  Daniel Moore: I mean it just uh, things happen and things took place and it caused us even to go off in a wrong direction with things and it was so easy for it to happen.
• 10:53
  Daniel Moore: You know, it's like.
• 10:54
  Daniel Moore: It seems like sometimes to me when I sit there and I think about it.
• 10:57
  Daniel Moore: When I was putting this series together, I thought about this a few times.
• 11:00
  Daniel Moore: Sometimes I thought you know it's, it's crazy how we work so hard to win our boyfriend and girlfriend over to try to get to that point where we're walking down that aisle and saying I do to each other, we do anything, if we truly love that person, to make that happen.
• 11:18
  Daniel Moore: You know, every little thing that comes up that upsets ourselves between each other or causes issues with each other, a lot of that stuff just we really are concerned about is to think are she going to break up with me over this?
• 11:30
  Daniel Moore: You know, is he going to break up with me over this?
• 11:34
  Daniel Moore: All that stuff crosses your mind, but somewhere along the way, it seems like in a lot of marriages and there's some marriages that never deal with this fortunately they're able to keep that flicker and that flame going for their whole life.
• 11:46
  Daniel Moore: But honestly, I would say, with all the people that I've talked to, that I know personally, even within our own testimony and just being online and looking at people's lives, it seems to me that more often than not, people for some reason seem to forget where it all started.
• 12:02
  Daniel Moore: Some reason seem to forget where it all started and along the way they just start letting things come in to take that time away from each other and before you know it, you're just existing in a home together.
• 12:13
  Daniel Moore: You know, and you and I both know where that takes you when you just start existing in a home together like that and it takes a really big wake up call.
• 12:26
  Daniel Moore: You know what's at the beginning of this little story here, and it all started with that comment she made.
• 12:32
  Daniel Moore: You know the elephant in the room.
• 12:35
  Daniel Moore: She finally decided to speak up and say something.
• 12:38
  Daniel Moore: Probably speaks a lot for communication.
• 12:41
  Daniel Moore: You know we've talked about that many times.
• 12:43
  Daniel Moore: But if she had never said that comment and she just went with the flow and just kept letting the marriage go the direction that it was going, you know who knows where that would have ended up.
• 12:54
  Daniel Moore: You know, they could have been eventually possibly getting divorced if they did not try to fix that issue and they kept letting that go further and further down the tube.
• 13:04
  Daniel Moore: And so that's a good way to start off this series, because I think it really sets the stage for what we're wanting to talk about here over the next few months as we go through this Marriage that you have between you and your partner.
• 13:18
  Daniel Moore: It's the most important relationship you have in your life, besides the one you have between you and God.
• 13:24
  Michelle Moore: Right.
• 13:25
  Daniel Moore: And, honestly, you and I have both learned it takes a lot of work to keep that relationship where it needs to be and but it's worth it.
• 13:35
  Daniel Moore: If you truly love the person that you're married to, you should be willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that you keep that marriage together and keep it flourishing.
• 13:44
  Daniel Moore: And you know, at the start of a marriage everything feels magical.
• 13:53
  Daniel Moore: The world seems brighter and you're filled with optimism and joy and you see your partner through eyes filtered by love and excitement.
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  Daniel Moore: Every quirk feels endearing, even charming.
• 14:00
  Daniel Moore: You know, a lot of times when we first got married there's things that we would do to each other to irritate each other, but we were so in love we'd overlook it.
• 14:08
  Daniel Moore: You know, it's like I can vividly, you know, think back right now and just think of a lot of things that when we first got together that were probably little flags, probably that you know we should have been, probably been a little bit more careful, but we were so in love with each other at the beginning of our marriage and so excited that we were married finally and had our life going that kind of thing.
• 14:31
  Daniel Moore: You know we have a tendency to look over things like that until we get so used to each other and then it seems like we kind of start being a little bit less careful about taking care of that relationship like we should.
• 14:44
  Daniel Moore: But we have to have meaningful conversations, truly listening and actually engaging with each other to make sure that that marriage stays where it needs to be.
• 14:56
  Daniel Moore: You know, at the beginning we go on dates, we pursue romance, we share laughter effortlessly.
• 15:01
  Daniel Moore: Decisions are made together without disagreement and common interest deepens your bond.
• 15:06
  Daniel Moore: Sex is passionate and alive.
• 15:08
  Daniel Moore: You kiss each other with enthusiasm, you say goodbye with affection.
• 15:12
  Daniel Moore: When disagreements arise, they are resolved with patience and kindness.
• 15:17
  Daniel Moore: Mistakes are met with overwhelming grace and forgiveness.
• 15:20
  Daniel Moore: You dream together, pray together, believe in a shared future.
• 15:24
  Daniel Moore: You admire and cherish each other deeply, feeling like the best of friends or matched souls.
• 15:30
  Daniel Moore: That's the emotional high that often marks the early phase of a marriage.
• 15:35
  Daniel Moore: But over time, as this little story kind of represented here subtly and almost without notice, things can begin to shift.
• 15:42
  Daniel Moore: Routine replaces spontaneity.
• 15:45
  Daniel Moore: We've seen that happen.
• 15:47
  Daniel Moore: Conversation loses its depth, those quirks that once felt cute now irritate.
• 15:52
  Daniel Moore: Priorities drift and connections fade.
• 15:56
  Daniel Moore: One day you finally pause and realize that you feel distant from the person you once felt the closest to.
• 16:01
  Daniel Moore: You realize that you're in love with a stranger.
• 16:05
  Daniel Moore: As we look back on on mine and your marriage, there was a time, was there a time, that you felt like that we were strangers and when we went through everything that we went through because we just weren't communicating like we should, you didn't know what was on my mind.
• 16:32
  Michelle Moore: I would say, probably at the beginning, definitely with everything that we went through because we didn't talk, we didn't communicate and we actually didn't really take a whole lot of time to ourselves.
• 16:41
  Michelle Moore: I think the demanding of our children.
• 16:47
  Michelle Moore: The demands of our children and you know, and as I've said before in past podcasts, you know I've put the kids way before you, so there wasn't.
• 17:00
  Michelle Moore: You know, there was a lot of times that I would say that you know, we could have definitely been strangers because we were so busy.
• 17:08
  Daniel Moore: When you have children.
• 17:09
  Michelle Moore: It's easy to do and I feel like just not even children, but ministry work If you're busy with that or you're just busy in general, like the busyness of life, and I think that, yeah, I mean I can definitely see us in that.
• 17:22
  Michelle Moore: I mean I see it now, I didn't see it back then and I still think to.
• 17:25
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, I mean I can definitely see us in that and I mean I see it now.
• 17:25
  Michelle Moore: I didn't see it back then and I still think to this day sometimes we can be that way, you know, with your busy schedule and you know, with us just being busy, I feel like I'm like hey, did I even say hi to you?
• 17:37
  Michelle Moore: It's like, and I feel like it's harder on me than it is you, you know you're good with it, you just again that personality comes with it.
• 17:47
  Michelle Moore: I struggle with it because I'm like, okay, I haven't seen you, I haven't talked to you.
• 17:51
  Michelle Moore: I need that.
• 17:53
  Michelle Moore: I need that attachment to know.
• 17:56
  Michelle Moore: I guess I don't know if I want to say attachment, but I want to be next to you.
• 18:01
  Michelle Moore: That's my love language.
• 18:03
  Michelle Moore: I want to be how's Like, that's my love language.
• 18:04
  Michelle Moore: I want to be how's your day, what's going on, you know, and just to be able to communicate and sit down and just talk.
• 18:10
  Michelle Moore: And so, yeah, I would definitely say in the past, and I mean even sometimes now, I mean we kind of get sidetracked.
• 18:19
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, so let me set the stage here just a little bit.
• 18:21
  Daniel Moore: Just as far as you and I are concerned, you know, in the little story that you just read, you mentioned that there were a lot of different things that can get in the way of working on your marriage and making sure that you keep connected, and you mentioned ministry, work, kids, schedules, checklist.
• 18:40
  Daniel Moore: There's a lot of things that starts falling into place the longer that you're married, and you know a lot of people sometimes think well, you know, our pastors don't have problems.
• 18:49
  Daniel Moore: You know they look at the leadership of the church.
• 18:51
  Daniel Moore: They put them on a pedestal because they think they got everything figured out and everything worked out.
• 18:55
  Daniel Moore: You and I, though, know personally we know some people that used to be pastors that put their ministry in front of their marriages and got divorced.
• 19:05
  Michelle Moore: Pastors are not touchless on that, and I think Satan fights them even more he does and yeah, they are definitely.
• 19:13
  Michelle Moore: They have so much that they have to fight.
• 19:16
  Michelle Moore: I mean, you know, they go before the throne for their church, you know, for people in general, I mean, and they have a family, but Ministry is very demanding.
• 19:28
  Daniel Moore: Yeah it is.
• 19:29
  Daniel Moore: It's very demanding and so, with you and I, just to kind of give a rundown of what our daily life looks like, so we both have a full-time job and your job you're an auditor for a bank, so it's very kind of a high stress type of job at times, and so that takes a lot out of you occasionally during your busy times.
• 19:50
  Daniel Moore: I have a full-time job at a radio station, and so that's it's a ministry type work where I do the HR payroll, a lot of the marketing type stuff a little bit of everything websites, the phone app, it yeah, jack of all trades basically.
• 20:04
  Daniel Moore: Then I have my own business on the side so I do computer repair and sales and all that kind of thing.
• 20:10
  Daniel Moore: So a lot of my evenings, my weekends, they're tied up doing my work, with my job, trying to mix my radio station stuff in there too, because we do sports.
• 20:19
  Daniel Moore: So some evenings I'm tied up with sports at the radio station and then at church.
• 20:22
  Daniel Moore: We serve in a couple of different areas and then we also are the coaches of our marriage recovery program at church.
• 20:31
  Daniel Moore: So we have people that we oversee in that ministry as well.
• 20:34
  Michelle Moore: And then we do the ministry and we do it ourselves.
• 20:37
  Daniel Moore: We actually do mentor couples ourselves.
• 20:39
  Daniel Moore: It's usually a minimum 16 week process to minister a couple through restoring their marriage, in which we're beyond excited.
• 20:49
  Michelle Moore: Yes, we love.
• 20:50
  Michelle Moore: That's what God's called us to do, and we love it, but we've had to learn already how to juggle things yes.
• 20:57
  Daniel Moore: And so one thing that I do like about us, though, because we've learned some of the lessons that we have learned.
• 21:02
  Daniel Moore: There are little bitty things that we are intentional on, such as, like, every day when I leave for work, we make sure that we kiss each other bye, we say have a good day.
• 21:14
  Daniel Moore: I know, I remember, I remember a few times where I've ran out to the truck to do some stuff or whatever and I'm like, oh, I gotta run back in and I have to kiss you by, tell you by that I love you.
• 21:24
  Daniel Moore: I try not to leave without doing that, and you know, to a lot of people they may feel like that's irrelevant.
• 21:33
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, they may not think.
• 21:33
  Michelle Moore: But how does that make you feel it?
• 21:34
  Michelle Moore: It makes my day.
• 21:35
  Michelle Moore: I mean, because you love me and you're telling me you love me.
• 21:38
  Michelle Moore: It's just that simple um action.
• 21:42
  Daniel Moore: That really says a lot for you yeah, and so we, we try to work it with everything that we do.
• 21:49
  Michelle Moore: You didn't finish everything we did.
• 21:50
  Michelle Moore: What else you host the Rise Up?
• 21:56
  Daniel Moore: Oh, that's right.
• 21:57
  Michelle Moore: And we also at church, we are getting ready to start a pre-marriage.
• 22:02
  Daniel Moore: Yes, premarital counseling, I guess you could say.
• 22:06
  Michelle Moore: And then, on top of all that, we have three grandchildren one on the way and we're very involved in that, and so I mean and then we do our podcast, oh yeah, we do our podcast.
• 22:20
  Daniel Moore: And we have two sides to this podcast.
• 22:22
  Daniel Moore: For those of you that follow us, I do a Bible study side that I do for my own self and then we do ours together for the marriage side.
• 22:28
  Daniel Moore: So right now I'm putting out two episodes a week.
• 22:30
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, I'm putting out two episodes a week.
• 22:32
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, I'm at this point and he's he's doing something that God is leading him into.
• 22:36
  Michelle Moore: I'm not going to say but God is really it's been on the table that we've been praying about and it's been taking some time.
• 22:45
  Michelle Moore: And then, you know just life, we cook supper clean m.
• 22:48
  Michelle Moore: You know just life, we cook supper clean.
• 22:49
  Michelle Moore: Mow the yard, and that's the reason why I'm like we have to, I mean.
• 22:55
  Daniel Moore: We have to be intentional.
• 22:56
  Michelle Moore: Yes, that's what I was getting ready to say.
• 22:57
  Michelle Moore: Intentional is the word that I was looking for.
• 23:03
  Michelle Moore: As they said, you have to be intentional and there's times that you know we're both so exhausted at nine o'clock at night and we just look at each other and we're like, hey, how's your day?
• 23:09
  Michelle Moore: It's like, you know, we, we, we go to bed.
• 23:13
  Michelle Moore: I mean there's times we'll be up to 11 midnight and I mean we read a little bit to like our minds.
• 23:20
  Daniel Moore: Yes.
• 23:28
  Michelle Moore: And so, but we will have more conversations at nighttime in bed than we will during the day, because we are and you know, I feel the pressure sometimes.
• 23:31
  Michelle Moore: I'm like, okay, this is just, this is too overwhelming to me, and Dan's like, oh yeah, we can add this into it, and I'm like I'm going to punch you because I cannot take anymore, you know, and I have to sit down and we have to talk about it, because I'm like you can do that, but I can't, and I think that's the difference in personalities.
• 23:49
  Michelle Moore: But, but I can't, and I think that's the difference in personalities.
• 23:51
  Michelle Moore: But you have to have that open communication, definitely, and be able to speak that.
• 23:55
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's very important because I will, I do, I will push and push to do as much as possible with what I feel like needs to be done or what I feel like God's leading us to do.
• 24:04
  Daniel Moore: But I usually push until you communicate to me that, ok, this is my limit for the moment.
• 24:12
  Michelle Moore: Oh great, now I know that, so I'm going to start saying that.
• 24:16
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, well like it's my she knows the cycle we've been going through, yeah, but I have learned enough, though, through the past, with everything that we've been through, to know that when you finally sit down and talk, I sit down and listen, thing that we've been through to know that when you finally sit down and talk, I sit down and listen and then we restructure for that moment and we do whatever we need to do to get some rest, that we might go on a weekend trip or you know just whatever it takes to get away, and get away from the house for a little bit, for a day at least or something, spend some time together and we restart over from there.
• 24:49
  Daniel Moore: But that kind of helps recycle our marriage and keep us on where we need to be Because, overall, regardless of anything that you or I have going on in our life, me and you is the most important.
• 25:01
  Michelle Moore: Right right.
• 25:02
  Daniel Moore: And we've learned that the hard way.
• 25:04
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, I know I'm not stupid.
• 25:06
  Daniel Moore: I know that if I push things too far and I try to push through too many things and try to, you know have too many loose ends hanging everywhere, that I know that that does put a strain on our marriage eventually.
• 25:18
  Daniel Moore: And so I have learned within my own self how to you know I'll go and go and go as long as I possibly can and everything's fine.
• 25:26
  Daniel Moore: But as soon as you know you or I start having a little bit of some issue with you know, not talking as much as we should, or you know.
• 25:35
  Michelle Moore: Getting a little snippy with each other.
• 25:36
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, getting a little snippy with each other or whatever I can always tell and, like this morning, I apologized to him.
• 25:41
  Michelle Moore: I'm like I think I've been a little snippy and I'm sorry because we just have so much going on.
• 25:45
  Daniel Moore: We've been moving our, our son and daughter, and all over the last few weeks, and the last couple of days, but over the last few weeks it's been packing and whatever, helping them out.
• 25:53
  Michelle Moore: It's been a lot.
• 25:54
  Daniel Moore: It's been a lot of stress.
• 25:55
  Daniel Moore: And we kept our granddaughter and trying to keep everything else going overnight.
• 25:58
  Daniel Moore: And so it is.
• 25:59
  Daniel Moore: It's real easy to get overwhelmed.
• 26:00
  Daniel Moore: It's real easy to try to push yourself too far, but in the midst of all of that you can't lose sight of what's important.
• 26:08
  Daniel Moore: You can't just push everything else behind you and think, okay, it's just going to catch up with me later and it'll be fine, because nine times out of ten it won't be fine Because you're going to let that thing get out of control.
• 26:19
  Daniel Moore: We're going to talk about that right now.
• 26:21
  Daniel Moore: It's actually there's a little term for that.
• 26:22
  Daniel Moore: I love this.
• 26:23
  Daniel Moore: It's the little foxes is what it is.
• 26:26
  Daniel Moore: I like that.
• 26:26
  Daniel Moore: A.
• 26:26
  Daniel Moore: You know a lot of people look at things and they like, oh, what big thing happened in your marriage that caused you guys to fail and get divorced?
• 26:32
  Daniel Moore: You know it's like you're not going to hardly ever find any one person that says one big, huge thing happened and it was over.
• 26:37
  Daniel Moore: I mean, you know that does happen occasionally, but you're going to.
• 26:41
  Daniel Moore: it's very rare.
• 26:41
  Daniel Moore: More often than not you're going to find the person that's going to say well, it was those little foxes, if they admit it.
• 26:47
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, it was those little foxes, if they admit it.
• 26:48
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, if they'll admit it.
• 26:49
  Daniel Moore: It's those little bitty things that we just didn't pay attention to anymore.
• 26:52
  Daniel Moore: And there's scripture for that, about the little foxes spoiling the vine.
• 26:57
  Daniel Moore: And you know, thousands of years ago, in the poetic language of Song of Solomon, king Solomon's bride-to-be, known as the Shulamite maiden, offered a timeless warning about the subtle dangers that threaten love.
• 27:11
  Daniel Moore: She pleaded, in Song of Solomon's 215, catch all the foxes, those little foxes, before they run the vineyard of love, for the grapevines are blossoming.
• 27:21
  Daniel Moore: The historical essence behind this in biblical times, foxes were known not for their size or their strength, but for their ability to sneak into vineyards and wreak quiet havoc, chewing through leaves, snapping branches, devouring grapes and tunneling into the roots, ultimately spoiling and destroying the vine from the inside out.
• 27:42
  Daniel Moore: And you know, what's particularly insightful is her choice of words.
• 27:45
  Daniel Moore: She said little foxes.
• 27:47
  Daniel Moore: She distinguishes them from the obvious, dramatic dangers of the time, predators like boars or lions.
• 27:54
  Daniel Moore: Instead, she wisely emphasizes the smaller, stealthy threats that creep in when no one is watching, the seemingly insignificant issues that slowly erode a relationship if not dealt with promptly.
• 28:06
  Daniel Moore: Her message to Solomon was clear, both promptly.
• 28:09
  Daniel Moore: Her message to Solomon was clear Protect our love not just from the obvious threats but from the overlooked irritations that quietly destroy the foundation of our relationship.
• 28:18
  Daniel Moore: In essence, she was saying let's guard our love by paying attention to the small things.
• 28:23
  Daniel Moore: They could be the ones that truly spoil what we're building together.
• 28:29
  Daniel Moore: And, guys, I'm telling you, looking back over the years, you know, with our marriage and even my previous marriage and Michelle can say it for her previous marriage you know there was a train of things that happened that led up to the bad things that happened within our marriages, and it was a lot of small things.
• 28:51
  Daniel Moore: And sometimes some of those small things you got to remember there's two people in a relationship, it's not just one.
• 28:58
  Daniel Moore: What may be okay for me may irritate Michelle to death, or Michelle may do something that may irritate me to death.
• 29:06
  Daniel Moore: But if something's irritating me that she does, or vice versa, and we don't speak up, that can be a little fox, because eventually it's going to get to the point where that's going to be piled on to other things that might be going on.
• 29:23
  Daniel Moore: And then all these little tiny things, you know, I think there's the saying from a you can make don't make a mountain out of a molehill, that kind of thing.
• 29:33
  Daniel Moore: I think that's a how that statement goes.
• 29:35
  Daniel Moore: And again you're looking at something kind of small which is a molehill, and then you look at a mountain and that's, in essence that's what this is saying.
• 29:45
  Daniel Moore: You know you got to watch out for these little foxes and these things that'll come in and try to destroy your marriage.
• 29:52
  Daniel Moore: You know we can deeply relate to her warning in ways that we wish we didn't.
• 29:59
  Daniel Moore: Years into our marriage we both broke down one day, overwhelmed by the emotional distance that had grown between us.
• 30:04
  Daniel Moore: At the time it was hard to understand how we got to that place.
• 30:08
  Daniel Moore: It was hard to understand how we got to that place.
• 30:11
  Daniel Moore: But looking back I now realize how small issues where those little bitty foxes had even quietly crept into our marriage.
• 30:15
  Daniel Moore: We had been blindsided by the subtle everyday habits that slowly drained life out of our connection.
• 30:21
  Daniel Moore: Little foxes had slipped in beneath the gate.
• 30:24
  Daniel Moore: Neglect, miscommunication, unspoken frustration, dishonesty, busyness.
• 30:30
  Daniel Moore: These persistent minor issues didn't immediately destroy our marriage in a dramatic collapse.
• 30:35
  Daniel Moore: Instead, they changed us from deeply connected partners into emotionally distant roommates.
• 30:41
  Daniel Moore: And you know this isn't just our story.
• 30:44
  Daniel Moore: Many couples unintentionally let these small tensions and distractions go unaddressed, only to find themselves wandering where the intimacy and the joy went.
• 30:52
  Daniel Moore: So it's no surprise that researchers have taken interest in this very question.
• 30:57
  Daniel Moore: Around the world, millions of people search for answers to why love fades, why partners drift and what turns a once soulful connection into quiet coexistence.
• 31:06
  Daniel Moore: And often it isn't an explosion that causes the damage, it's those little foxes.
• 31:13
  Daniel Moore: And with your and I, my relationship.
• 31:15
  Daniel Moore: I remember how happy we were when we took off on our honeymoon.
• 31:19
  Daniel Moore: I look back at pictures of our honeymoon pictures.
• 31:22
  Daniel Moore: We went to Colorado.
• 31:24
  Daniel Moore: It's like a whole different world, you know, when we look at that, because things have so dramatically changed, like you said, even from the way we looked even up to the type of relationship that we had back then, to what we have now.
• 31:38
  Daniel Moore: And it's like when you look at that, those, if you go back and look at those pictures, you know when we were in our little trek through Colorado we went to three different places while we were out there and looked at things and done a lot of fun stuff.
• 31:53
  Daniel Moore: It's hard to imagine looking at that, thinking those two people had no idea where that marriage was getting right ahead.
• 32:00
  Daniel Moore: And if only they had known those two people back then you and I had known what was ahead of us, what we could have done differently to head that off.
• 32:12
  Daniel Moore: But you know, I know, speaking for myself, I just thought that I had it all figured out.
• 32:19
  Daniel Moore: I guess I just I just thought, ok, I got the girl of my dreams now.
• 32:24
  Daniel Moore: You know, I mean, you had liked each other for a long time and the relationship that we had, I just felt like it was a win.
• 32:30
  Daniel Moore: You know, I felt like that.
• 32:32
  Daniel Moore: The marriage that we had is it's what I'd always wanted, and little, you know, little to say and to know that I was going to be a huge part of messing that all up eventually and causing so many problems.
• 32:45
  Daniel Moore: And you know all of you listening out there, maybe this is a time for you, maybe to go break out some of your pictures from back then and just reminisce on what it was like back then.
• 32:55
  Daniel Moore: You know, I know a lot of times, especially for guys, oh, that's too emotional for me.
• 33:00
  Daniel Moore: You know, that's just, that's stupid.
• 33:02
  Daniel Moore: You know how guys are.
• 33:03
  Daniel Moore: They want to be tough or whatever.
• 33:05
  Daniel Moore: But you know what, if you've been through what Michelle and I have been through with our marriage almost losing it completely, all that hard work that it took to try to rebuild back everything that we had lost because we allowed these little foxes to get in the middle of our marriage.
• 33:21
  Daniel Moore: You'd probably have a different outlook on that, and who's to say that some of you listening right now may be having that bad path right now that you're headed where Michelle and I ended up at, that bad path, right now that you're headed where Michelle and I ended up at, maybe that's a good time to try to redirect this and keep it from going that direction, because I'm telling you just from experience between us two, we can both vouch for the fact that if you let these little things keep multiplying and you don't take care of them, you don't communicate through them or whatever, that you're going to have some issues.
• 33:52
  Daniel Moore: It's going to cause problems and your marriage isn't going to go a direction that you want it to go.
• 33:56
  Daniel Moore: Share with us the next couple of paragraphs there that we've got.
• 34:01
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, every day, millions of Internet users ask Google's life most difficult question.
• 34:08
  Michelle Moore: One of the most common Google queries is why do relationships end?
• 34:14
  Michelle Moore: But I would have never, ever.
• 34:17
  Michelle Moore: I'm sorry, I'm kind of going off, but I would have never typed that into Google.
• 34:21
  Michelle Moore: So it's very interesting.
• 34:22
  Michelle Moore: So that's really sad that a lot of Internet users have to ask that question.
• 34:28
  Michelle Moore: So author Nell Frizzle wrote the following A wise man once told me that nobody breaks up over adultery, but over the way you talk at dinner, the kisses that go unkissed, the meals that pass in silence, the money that is wasted.
• 34:53
  Michelle Moore: These lay the groundwork for the big things to erupt.
• 34:57
  Michelle Moore: Infidelity happens perhaps when one partner or the other is looking to plug a hole, not just a physical one, but an emotional one, a personal one and a psychological one, laid bare by months and years of ugly, lampshades, boring weekends and lukewarm pasta bakes.
• 35:16
  Michelle Moore: Separation is perhaps the inevitable end point of eating at different times, sleeping on the sofa because you got home late, choosing to go on holiday with someone else, watching different things on your phones instead of going to the cinema and making plans in which the other is not included.
• 35:35
  Michelle Moore: Social scientists have diligently searched for answers to this same question and have made some astonishing discoveries.
• 35:45
  Michelle Moore: In the United States, researchers estimate that 40 to 50 percent of all first marriages and 60 percent of second marriages will end in divorce.
• 35:56
  Michelle Moore: Why?
• 35:57
  Michelle Moore: Several major research projects have focused on the specific reasons people give for their divorces.
• 36:04
  Daniel Moore: And I find it what that guy said up there that's very deep.
• 36:07
  Daniel Moore: I mean, it really makes you think about you know, a lot of the things that he mentioned there the apologies unspoken I mean, how many times do we do things to each other and we fail to apologize?
• 36:18
  Michelle Moore: Well, it was funny because you talked about earlier how you would come back in and kiss me.
• 36:21
  Michelle Moore: This is the kisses that go unkissed.
• 36:24
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Michelle Moore: The meals that pass in silence.
• 36:26
  Michelle Moore: I mean, those are important things.
• 36:29
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, those actually reference to companionship, those reference to being together, to spending that shared time, right, and I do see a lot of times where a lot of spouses do things separately from each other and I know that they're doing it for whatever reason and they feel like that.
• 36:50
  Daniel Moore: That's and that's if that's whatever they do that, whatever they choose, that's up to them, but a lot of times I wonder, though well, what direction, though, is that really making their marriage head?
• 37:00
  Daniel Moore: You know, it's like it really makes you wonder.
• 37:03
  Daniel Moore: Do they really have that connection between each other that they could have if they actually spent time doing things together more often than doing so many things there's.
• 37:13
  Daniel Moore: You know, for you and I we've talked about this before there's very little that you or I do apart from each other, but you enjoy those things when we go do something Well, I cherish us being together.
• 37:24
  Michelle Moore: Still, I feel like there are some people out there that just don't want to do things, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 37:32
  Michelle Moore: If you have a marriage that is, you trust your spouse and you know that they would not want to do that, and you have a godly Christian friend or whatever, maybe family or whatever and go with them, that's fine, because that other spouse, as long as you communicate, I think it's great.
• 37:53
  Michelle Moore: But you and I, that's just not who we are.
• 37:56
  Michelle Moore: You know, I don't want to ever just down talk someone that's different than us.
• 38:01
  Michelle Moore: So I feel like you and I I mean it's just we always want to do stuff together.
• 38:06
  Michelle Moore: Yeah, but let's enjoy it.
• 38:07
  Daniel Moore: Let's think of what about this, though it makes you if I do something that I don't really care to do, that you love to do, and I go ahead and do that because I want to spend that time with you, doesn't that make you feel good, though, that I'm every so often willing to do that?
• 38:23
  Daniel Moore: And vice versa, I know it makes me feel good because if there's something that I know that's more my thing and but I still want to involve you in it, I still want you to.
• 38:36
  Daniel Moore: You know, sometimes I've done a couple computer job, the job type things that I've asked if you'd like to go help me.
• 38:39
  Daniel Moore: Um, I don't always want it to think, I don't always want it to be everything that I do, that there's certain things that I always do by myself.
• 38:47
  Daniel Moore: You know there's.
• 38:48
  Daniel Moore: I want to make sure that, no matter what I do whether if it's with my business or even radio station stuff or whatever if there's an opportunity that you could go and do it with me, we could have some time just to spend together doing something like that, I always want to make sure I at least offer that, because I think that's more time.
• 39:06
  Michelle Moore: If you offer it, yeah that we're going together this, but yeah.
• 39:15
  Daniel Moore: And I think it's, you know, every once in a while for myself personally, I think, just for the relationship side of things, I don't think a spouse should always turn that down.
• 39:19
  Daniel Moore: I think every once in a while it would be nice just to go ahead and go do something that you don't really care to do, because that reinforces, with your other spouse you know, that you really do care about what they care about yeah, and I would agree with that, I think, if you do one vacation, you know, hey, whatever See.
• 39:35
  Daniel Moore: I couldn't go on a vacation without you, unless it was business related and they were paying for my way and there just wasn't any way you could go.
• 39:41
  Daniel Moore: But I had to go.
• 39:44
  Michelle Moore: If you had a men's thing or a bunch of men wanted to go do, I'd be like go.
• 39:47
  Daniel Moore: That's different, though.
• 39:48
  Daniel Moore: I'm talking about just going somewhere by myself no or going somewhere with you know, even just going somewhere with one friend.
• 39:55
  Daniel Moore: I just don't know if I want to do that I'd go do something with her Right.
• 39:59
  Michelle Moore: You know, yeah, or Paulette I mean those would be my two that I would probably take off and just go yeah.
• 40:05
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's I know.
• 40:06
  Daniel Moore: For myself, you know I'd rather I like the time I spend with you, you know, and so it's I just, and I like to see new things and experience new things with you.
• 40:14
  Daniel Moore: It's because we love each other.
• 40:16
  Daniel Moore: That's got a lot to do with it, that's for sure.
• 40:19
  Michelle Moore: Find you fun to be around.
• 40:22
  Daniel Moore: I don't know how, but OK.
• 40:23
  Daniel Moore: But I think that just thinking about and really this conversation that we're having here between each other, just it's more just to maybe inspire you all to think a little bit.
• 40:33
  Daniel Moore: You know, I think sometimes we can get really selfish in our relationships and it's like what I like to do, I'm going to do, whether, if you do it with me or not, I think I see that a lot sometimes in people's relationships and that's not really the way it should be, and so you have to be.
• 40:47
  Daniel Moore: You know, I think there's a place, a space there where you can be a little bit more proactive and do things with each other, and I think the other spouse would appreciate that, and I do think that that helps strengthen that bond that you have between each other when you're willing to do something that you just don't really care to do and that your other spouse likes to do.
• 41:06
  Daniel Moore: In wrapping it up here, as you were talking that the scientists were searching for these answers, they did come up with a few things here that we want to share about that.
• 41:28
  Daniel Moore: There's a 2003 study that found that growing apart was fifth behind infidelity, incompatibility, drinking or drug use and physical or mental abuse for why people divorced.
• 41:39
  Daniel Moore: So whenever they'd go and you know, try to get their paperwork to get their divorce to go and that kind of thing they always ask you why.
• 41:46
  Daniel Moore: You know, and it always usually comes out as unreconcilable differences or whatever.
• 41:50
  Daniel Moore: But in all reality, those unreconcilable differences actually mean something.
• 41:55
  Daniel Moore: And fifth in that list is usually growing apart.
• 41:59
  Daniel Moore: In 2004, aarp surveyed older adults age 40 and up and reported abuse, differing values and lifestyles, cheating and simply falling out of love or no obvious problems as the top four reasons for divorce.
• 42:16
  Daniel Moore: And how in the world can you have no obvious problems to push yourself to divorce?
• 42:21
  Daniel Moore: I don't know how that could be possible.
• 42:22
  Daniel Moore: It seems like there's got to be a problem.
• 42:24
  Daniel Moore: I mean, something failed.
• 42:26
  Michelle Moore: I would say it's probably because they feel like more like.
• 42:29
  Daniel Moore: They don't want to admit it because they feel like more like they don't want to admit it there.
• 42:33
  Michelle Moore: Well, that that could be true too, but I feel like the more of the I've fallen apart would have to come up with that.
• 42:39
  Michelle Moore: Yeah you have to have something there's gotta yeah why would you marry that person if there was no reason to, or why would you divorce them?
• 42:46
  Daniel Moore: I mean there's a reason just to simply fall out of love.
• 42:48
  Daniel Moore: I mean I just don't understand how that just happens.
• 42:51
  Daniel Moore: I mean there's yeah, there's got to be reasons.
• 42:53
  Daniel Moore: In 2006, a study out of the Netherlands found that the third main reason that females gave for divorce was growing apart behind, not enough attention and not able to talk.
• 43:04
  Daniel Moore: So communication obviously was first.
• 43:06
  Daniel Moore: The men listed growing apart as the top reason for divorce, but I still think probably in the growing apart, communication is probably a big part of that.
• 43:14
  Daniel Moore: I would agree with that.
• 43:15
  Daniel Moore: Probably my guess.
• 43:16
  Daniel Moore: In a study published in 2012, researchers found the two most common reasons for divorcing were growing apart and not being able to talk together.
• 43:25
  Daniel Moore: Here we are again Communication, and the last one here.
• 43:29
  Daniel Moore: According to the more than 800,000 individuals who have completed the focused on the family assessment, the top five marriage struggles are one sex.
• 43:36
  Daniel Moore: Number two, conflict.
• 43:38
  Daniel Moore: Number three, communication.
• 43:40
  Daniel Moore: Number four, shared responsibility.
• 43:43
  Daniel Moore: And number five, time together.
• 43:46
  Daniel Moore: These struggles are how roommate marriages are described, sexless marriages, not working through conflicts, no meaningful communication, household chores that aren't divided equally, and busyness and routine replacing quality time together, feeling emotionally distant, struggling to communicate, lacking connection or simply feeling like you've fallen out of love even when there are no obvious problems are always, couples end up living like married roommates, and you know, that's exactly where Michelle and I found ourselves.
• 44:19
  Daniel Moore: As a younger couple, we were unknowingly living out what researchers have described.
• 44:23
  Daniel Moore: For years Our marriage had quietly drifted into a crisis.
• 44:27
  Daniel Moore: The turning point came and we started to honestly examine what was going wrong.
• 44:31
  Daniel Moore: After almost getting a divorce Somewhere along the way, the passionate, joyful love that we once shared had faded into quiet indifference, predictable routines and emotional silence.
• 44:43
  Daniel Moore: We were no longer thriving.
• 44:45
  Daniel Moore: We began asking the hard question how had our relationship moved from being soulmates to simply shared space as roommates?
• 44:53
  Daniel Moore: Understanding that shift was the first step toward healing and rediscovering the deep connection that we had lost.
• 45:01
  Daniel Moore: And you know, that's a good way, I think, to start out this series.
• 45:06
  Daniel Moore: I think that a lot of these statistics and these things that the scientists have found is they've.
• 45:12
  Daniel Moore: Like you said earlier, it's hard for you to believe somebody would Google something like that.
• 45:18
  Michelle Moore: Even in the midst of our time.
• 45:20
  Daniel Moore: It's like that's the huge thing of studies today, because it's so bad.
• 45:24
  Daniel Moore: I mean, when you think about 40 to 50 percent of first marriages failing in the United States, and how many people are in this country, that's a crisis.
• 45:35
  Daniel Moore: I mean, that's a very bad situation.
• 45:37
  Daniel Moore: Of course, we all know that when you get married again, that percentage goes up every time you remarry and it's just.
• 45:44
  Daniel Moore: It's an insane amount of people that are falling out of love with each other.
• 45:49
  Daniel Moore: Whatever those reasons may be, they're not taking care of their marriages and it's so easy to happen because you and I have walked that we know how easy it is to do that.
• 46:00
  Michelle Moore: It's easy to put things before our spouses.
• 46:02
  Daniel Moore: Yes.
• 46:02
  Michelle Moore: Very easy.
• 46:03
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it's just not a good thing to do at all.
• 46:06
  Daniel Moore: It's very unhealthy for your relationship.
• 46:09
  Daniel Moore: We're going to go ahead and call it good for this week on that one and we'll come back and finish up this first episode here in a part two.
• 46:16
  Daniel Moore: And next week we're going to be talking about 11 characteristics of married roommates.
• 46:21
  Daniel Moore: So if you're living together right now, married, and you're wondering, well, I wonder if I'm a roommate, well, we're going to talk about a bunch of characteristics of roommates.
• 46:29
  Daniel Moore: So you all can sit and kind of look at your marriages and put these little things in place and see if maybe some of these you guys are falling into and maybe there's some places you might need to be correcting.
• 46:39
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and so we're going to talk about that next week.
• 46:41
  Daniel Moore: So is there anything that you'd like to add to this one?
• 46:43
  Daniel Moore: No, okay, well, watch those little foxes.
• 46:46
  Daniel Moore: Yep, they'll sneak in on you and they'll tear that vine apart and you'll be in big trouble.
• 46:54
  Michelle Moore: Guard your hearts and your marriages.
• 46:56
  Daniel Moore: And that's very biblical.
• 46:57
  Daniel Moore: That's very biblical.
• 46:58
  Daniel Moore: All right, well, we're going to call that good for this week.
• 47:01
  Daniel Moore: Then We'll be back next week with our next episode of Marriage Reset and we thank you guys for joining us this week and we pray that, after listening to this episode, that your marriage is stronger and your walk with God is closer, and we pray to have a blessed week.
• 47:16
  Daniel Moore: This is an extension of Connecting the Gap Ministries.