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Caitlin Reilly Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,
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  Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm prettyer whine girl.
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling loose, I'm feeling wild, I'm feeling out of control.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening.
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  Speaker 3: I've been playing a lot of a video game called Pocopia.
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  Speaker 3: This is a video game where you've got to kind
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  Speaker 3: of just take care of Pokemon. You've got to make
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  Speaker 3: sure the pokemon are comfortable. I've been for the last
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  Speaker 3: few days. I have been just making sure all of
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  Speaker 3: my Pokemon are comfortable. I've barely had a minute for myself.
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  Speaker 3: I had a confrontation with my neighbor's dog. If I hit,
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  Speaker 3: attacked and killed me, we probably wouldn't be recording today.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of my life, not getting attacked by
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  Speaker 3: a dog, taking care of my Pokemon. My retainer is
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  Speaker 3: being cleaned as we speak. It's at home in the
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  Speaker 3: glass with the tablet. So I've got one thing to
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  Speaker 3: look forward to and is do I have any business?
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  Speaker 3: Let's see. No, I don't think so. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: am wondering if if anybody knows if the man who
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  Speaker 3: does my taxes, if he exists, he's out of touch. Bruce,
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  Speaker 3: reach out. The deadline's coming and I could use some assistance,
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  Speaker 3: I think. And Jim has left town. Jim is out
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  Speaker 3: of town. So you can see that my structure is
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  Speaker 3: just completely lost. I've I need some I need somebody
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  Speaker 3: with a strong hand in my life. Essentially, I think
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  Speaker 3: that that's all we have to talk about. Uh oh,
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  Speaker 3: somebody mentioned to me recently the gift or a curse
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  Speaker 3: card game. They're running out of that, so if you
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  Speaker 3: want one, go to exactly wright store dot com and
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  Speaker 3: then find your way online. I don't know. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into the podcast. Today's guest is wonderful. It's Caitlin Riley. Caitlin,
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  Speaker 3: welcome to I said no gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so good just watching you work, beautiful and fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: What a what a profession.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Our Dick Clark, I am, I'm
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  Speaker 3: essentially our Dick Clark. Yeah, you really are get to
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  Speaker 3: do the ball countdown.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: When's my rock and New Year's Eve?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but you need to get on there.
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  Speaker 3: I need a rock in New Year's Eve.
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  Speaker 2: You really do.
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  Speaker 3: You were telling me right before we started recording that
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  Speaker 3: you've had some alarm trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have a house guest right now, and so
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  Speaker 2: I had to go back and fix the alarm. So
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  Speaker 2: I I was late. I was late. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: disrespectfully late. I was like twenty minutes late.
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  Speaker 3: It was, oh, twenty minutes, I don't think so fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: But I actually I parked four blocks away accidentally, and
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  Speaker 2: then I was walking around an apartment building and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I didn't know I was going to Bridger's apartment.
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  Speaker 2: Is what is this? And then I realized that I
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  Speaker 2: was not at my destination, so I had to go back.
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  Speaker 2: It was really a series of unfortunate events.
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  Speaker 3: Did you move the car to our beautiful parking lot
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  Speaker 3: or you still no?
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  Speaker 2: I parked on the street because I couldn't find the
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  Speaker 2: parking lot. I was an absolute tizzy.
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  Speaker 3: This is what the alarm will do, though, I know.
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  Speaker 3: Did the house guests call and say I set off
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  Speaker 3: the alarm or did the alarm company call or the police?
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  Speaker 2: You get a notification and so there's like a ten
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  Speaker 2: second countdown and then they're like something's wrong. So then
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  Speaker 2: you have to go back and fix it.
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  Speaker 3: God, and what happens? Then then it alerts the police.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it alerts. I think it's simply safe.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, sure, I have simply saved this way. Are
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  Speaker 3: they a sponsor, we don't know what they are or
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  Speaker 3: if they're collecting our information. We don't know what they
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  Speaker 3: are as a company.
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  Speaker 2: I think everything's collecting our inform I think you're collecting
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  Speaker 2: my information.
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  Speaker 3: Or collecting your voice. We're going to do a spinoff
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  Speaker 3: of this podcast using the AI.
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  Speaker 2: With your voice, but it's going to be just like
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  Speaker 2: completely red pilled. It's just like my my voice but
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  Speaker 2: saying the most insane, horrible tin hat.
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  Speaker 3: Theories, awful things about women, awful.
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  Speaker 2: Things about women, awful things about anyone that should have
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  Speaker 2: rights or any kind of love or compassion of any kind. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just watched the Uh there's a new documentary about
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  Speaker 3: the manosphere. Have you seen this?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, I was waiting to watch it with
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  Speaker 2: my husband lol, But then I watched it myself because
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  Speaker 2: women's rights.
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  Speaker 3: Right. You should have waited for your god.
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  Speaker 2: I should have waited for my god, your God. But
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  Speaker 2: it is fascinating that guy does a really good documentary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting the way he's able to get
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  Speaker 3: into these people's world and basically like tell them they're idiots,
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  Speaker 3: and they keep him around anyway he's doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, he creates this like safe space for
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  Speaker 2: them to just let their freak flag fly in front
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  Speaker 2: of a camera.
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  Speaker 3: But he is saying things to them. But he tells
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  Speaker 3: one guy he needs to work on his calves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, well, you don't say that to a
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  Speaker 2: straight man.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, and he doesn't. Yeah, So I wonder
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  Speaker 3: if there's like it's like, is this sort of like
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  Speaker 3: an uncle energy where you like bring them in and
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  Speaker 3: they're like able to ras you a little bit, but
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  Speaker 3: you keep them around. Like, how are they so open
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  Speaker 3: with this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Is he is he British or Australian? I think
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: he's British? Okay, so I feel like any person that's
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  Speaker 2: British kind of gets like a social free pass. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, like for some reason, I
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  Speaker 2: trust you, right, I imagine you're really smarter than me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you sound really smart, and I feel like you're just
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  Speaker 2: kind of here to observed and.
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  Speaker 3: Think that one influencer's mom showing up at the end
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  Speaker 3: was what's going on with her? Yeah, what's going on
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  Speaker 3: with any of these horrible fears?
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  Speaker 2: God, it's really really disturbing. It's really disturbing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was obviously upset not to be invited on.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, as key member, you're very much.
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  Speaker 2: A part of the manosphere.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, a cornerstone you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're a founding father for sure of
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  Speaker 2: that of that ILK right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. It feels like just an entirely different universe,
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  Speaker 3: and like these people are unbelievably famous and I've never
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  Speaker 3: seen or heard of them.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean my nephew is seventeen and I know,
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  Speaker 2: and so he's sort of like, I'm not a Republican,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm also not a Democrat, which is I think, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't are we talking politics.
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  Speaker 3: On your foot, We're talking seventeen year old politics.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking seventeen year old politics. Where he said that,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, for a seventeen year old, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like that's a red flags.
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  Speaker 3: Huge as a teenager.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, so, but so what are you?
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  Speaker 2: You know? And I think that he dabbles in this
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  Speaker 2: world a little bit. And there's this new wave of
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  Speaker 2: gen zers or I don't need is it Jen Alpha?
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  Speaker 3: Now? Where are Jen Alpha is really coming up with?
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  Speaker 3: I saw a headline that was like twenty five percent
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  Speaker 3: of jen Alpha thinks that the woman should stay at.
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  Speaker 2: Home or something. And so that's the thing. He wants
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  Speaker 2: to get married super young. He wants to have like
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  Speaker 2: six kids. What he wants his wife to be a
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  Speaker 2: stay at home mot Like, I'm a little worried. You're
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  Speaker 2: a little scared. I don't really know what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like in this inside a teenager's mind, thinking that
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  Speaker 3: in that way just doesn't It doesn't seem at all
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  Speaker 3: familiar to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're I think we're going a little
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  Speaker 2: they're very the young the youngins are very conservative.
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  Speaker 3: But something that realized that's going to get in the
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  Speaker 3: way of their gaming. You got six kids, you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to be able to get on Twitch.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. They all to be
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  Speaker 2: twitch streamers, right.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't these things don't feel compatible to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's the wife having to clean the
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  Speaker 3: house while you said on twitch.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, because man can play game, wife can clean kitchen, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the natural order, the natural order of things.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of hunting, we're gaming there, so they're hunting. But
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  Speaker 2: in the game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, gamers don't come for me. I'm playing Pokemon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that I am. I'm a gamer myself.
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  Speaker 3: We're all gamers.
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  Speaker 2: We're all gamers at heart. Come on, wait, so is
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  Speaker 2: this like a game on your phone or what.
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  Speaker 3: Is a game on my switch?
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  Speaker 2: It's called Pocopia. Okay, so I have a switch, but
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  Speaker 2: I never charge it and I and I forget about
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  Speaker 2: it will cause problems for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like I never played did you ever
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  Speaker 3: play Animal Crossing?
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  Speaker 2: I got really bored.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm bored by that as well. People were wild
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 2: But people tell me COVID Yeah, I know, Elijah Wood
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  Speaker 2: was a big Animals player from what I remember.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean almost everyone and I very alienated because
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  Speaker 3: I found it boring.
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  Speaker 2: It's boring.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of like that, but it's not boring
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  Speaker 3: because you are concerned about everyone's comfort and if you
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  Speaker 3: care about if you're if you're an mpath like.
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  Speaker 2: Me, okay, you will be just like someone with trauma.
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  Speaker 3: With trauma, you'll be like, what what does Bulbasor need?
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: Right now? What does Bulbasor need? Is there fighting?
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: There's no fighting yet?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I need fighting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you need to pit them. You need the kind
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  Speaker 3: of dog fighting aspect of it.
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  Speaker 2: I need fighting, but it needs to be magical. Right. So,
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  Speaker 2: I about two years ago got really unhealthily obsessed with
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  Speaker 2: Hogwarts legacy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sure, and this is do you like, are you
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  Speaker 3: Harry Potter in this or your another wizard?
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  Speaker 2: So your it's like one hundred and twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: before the story of Harry Potter started, right. So you're
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  Speaker 2: a student at Hogwarts, right, and they sort you in
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  Speaker 2: a house, right, and it's a full open world, right,
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  Speaker 2: and there are main quests, there are side quests, but
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  Speaker 2: you are a wizard. Uh huh. And it's really incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine it kind of takes over your life.
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  Speaker 2: It does. I played. I think I logged one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and twenty seven hours in a month. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the end game in this thing?
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  Speaker 2: You just you you finish it? So then After that,
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  Speaker 2: I moved on to what am I playing right now?
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Outlaws or basically you're this female character named
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Kves but she's essentially Han solo and you go on
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  Speaker 2: a lot of crazy Well I realized that it has
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: to be like open world adventure based and it has
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: to be based off of a movie, like like my
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: husband was like, you should play Skyrim, and I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's stupid, But it's essentially the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's also like a wizard a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think. I like wizards, right, I love Wizards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously there's the complication of jk Rowling
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  Speaker 3: at this point of.
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  Speaker 2: Course, so that that is the issue that I had
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: found where sort of my soul is like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I shouldn't be doing this.
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  Speaker 3: We're all kind of trapped. We should, I mean, but
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  Speaker 3: we should always you know, just note jk Rowling each
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  Speaker 3: shit sort of situation die. But the wonderful world of
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: wizarding it's very complicated.
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  Speaker 2: What wizard I mean, it's not the right I don't
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  Speaker 2: think she got a paycheck from this.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, unfortunately, I think she makes a paycheck
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  Speaker 3: from probably like every book sale at this point. This
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  Speaker 3: woman is just pure evil and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's awful.
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of I actually feel like evil is cool.
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  Speaker 2: She's like a loser, loser, I mean imagine, like so
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  Speaker 2: like if she died tomorrow, the only thing that we'll
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  Speaker 2: be talking about is God, she fucking sucked. Like, imagine
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  Speaker 2: accomplishing the most incredible thing, like creating this magical world
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  Speaker 2: renowned series of Harry Potter and then failing so hard
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  Speaker 2: as a human being that if you died tomorrow, everyone's like, yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that was the most loser person truly. Can you imagine?
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  Speaker 3: She spends all her day online?
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, get a live honey, get a light. Well, she
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: has more money than gods, I know, but.
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  Speaker 3: Like we got to do something.
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  Speaker 2: In Costa Rica and get offline. What is wrong?
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Find one hobby?
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Find start needle stitching?
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: Is that what it's called needle stitching? That might be
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: a needle needle point stitching, cross stitching, needle points. These
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: are separate disciplines and their third one crochet.
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  Speaker 2: Crochet is really fun.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, see, look at us. We're thinking of ideas for
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  Speaker 3: this lady.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to help her.
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  Speaker 3: It's also the sort of thing where it's like change
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  Speaker 3: your mind and suddenly you're the coolest person alive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: People are like, wow, there's someone who who actually figured
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  Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, and said she's online, she's on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Twitter, Just lose it X.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, thank you, thank you for showing it respect deserves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, give it the respect it deserves. It's X. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I actually got bullied off of X because I made
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: a joke, and the joke was Emma Stone could do
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  Speaker 2: the Joker, but Joaquin Phoenix could never do La La Land.
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  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Wow you were I mean, just throwing yourself
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  Speaker 3: out there to be devoured.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the Joker had come out. And respectfully,
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  Speaker 2: I've never hated a movie more. It's so bad. I've
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  Speaker 2: never hated a movie more. And then the second one
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh wow, it's even worse. Caitlin, But I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I can't say those things otherwise I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to get.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say something controversial. What I didn't mind
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  Speaker 3: Joker two. Okay, Look, I'm willing to defend myself. Is
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: it because the water on my side, by.
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  Speaker 2: The way, Okay, and I do remember John Water's coming
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  Speaker 2: out validated my FEELIX Okay, and so I do remember
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  Speaker 2: that happening, and I remember thinking, h John Waters sees
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  Speaker 2: something here, so I think I think it was like
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: a boomerang where the Joker too was so like what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck crazy, right, that it boomeranged back around and
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  Speaker 2: then it was like expert camp.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean it was like I mean, in so
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: many ways, it was like it made all of the
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: people who liked the original Bad One mad, yes, which
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  Speaker 3: that alone is like this feels good. This feels good
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  Speaker 3: that those people are mad, and it was just weird
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  Speaker 3: and strangely. First one was just kind of a rip
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  Speaker 3: off of Taxi Driver. The second one was like what
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  Speaker 3: am I looking at? Right? It was really I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there was a courtroom sequence that was like seven hours long.
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  Speaker 3: Of course that was tough, but I went in with
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  Speaker 3: such low expectations that my friend and I looked at
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  Speaker 3: each other after and we were like, that wasn't that bad?
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  Speaker 3: And then John Waters comes along and says it was
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  Speaker 3: one of his favorite movies of the year, and I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they did something here.
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  Speaker 2: You do have a very good point. I might have
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to give it a rewatch in the background while I'm
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: doing laundry.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to defend anything Joker men, the Joker, any
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  Speaker 3: of these things.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of the day, everyone's
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  Speaker 2: making art, right, and that's okay, and that's good and
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: art is good and art's important, right.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a big reveal of Connor's story. Wait,
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  Speaker 3: you know he's at the end of that movie. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's throughout the movie and he's like the big
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  Speaker 3: shocking end of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember. I only watched bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 3: People are gonna, look, there's gonna be a retrospect, but.
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  Speaker 2: That's on me because I'm sitting here saying I hate
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  Speaker 2: a movie that I didn't watch all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, So now this is your giving fuel to
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  Speaker 3: the manisphere. Right, You're gonna be bullied off of this podcast, right. No,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: he's at the end of the movie. Spoiler he kills
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  Speaker 3: Woking Phoenix.
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  Speaker 2: That was Connor's story.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's great.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny. Before I watched Heated Rivalry, Tod just
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: come out. I was at an event.
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  Speaker 3: You can kind of say that about literally anything in
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: your life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at an event.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: You're constantly at the market, definite.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I was at a pop up event. I was buying groceries,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: but I was at an event and Connor's story walks Connor.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him Connor Stories because I think that's funnier.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I call I think I've done that by mistake.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he walked past me and he was like,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I love you. You're the funniest person alive. And I
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, thank you. And I was like, Oh,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that's that's the Russian guy from he did Rivalry. The
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: next day I watched it. It took over my life
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: and my soul and I must, I must find him again.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You will, because now I love him.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: And he seems like a genuinely nice person. Yeah, doesn't
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: great Russian, Great Russian.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: And let's not forget Hudson Williams. Let's not forget Hutson Williams. Girl,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: he does a great job. He was incredible, called them
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the boys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: We don't want to laugh.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: We love Hudson Williams. He's a Kutie Batiti.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: He just doesn't do a Russian accent or Russian right.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And that's an impressive thing. I kept saying, trying to
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: be smart through the first two episodes to my boyfriend, Oh,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: this is all just really high tech cig with the
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Russian they've they've done some sort of dubbing.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: That can't possibly really think that? Yeah?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I was like, k I was just like, this feels
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: so convincing. How could he possibly as a stupid person.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I was just like, there's no way, and as kind
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: of an undisciplined person who would never possibly learn how
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: That, and I would neither.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, there's just no way unless his
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: parents are Russian. But they're not. He I guess he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: just that good.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I thought he was Russian. Russian. But then I was like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: can Russians act? Oh?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Interesting?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: You know that's the big question? Can they act? I
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think they can act like that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: If I don't know, if that one Russian has ever
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: been able to act?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Name a Russian. Give me a proof. Name a Russian
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: who can act.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I can't think of one.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I can't think of one.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: If I can't think of one, it's obviously true.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Well, one of my best friends is like full blow Russian.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: She has an incredible actress that's okay.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Interesting, Yet you're not willing to name her.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: She will be unnamed. She will be unnamed.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: You're not her publicist, you're her friends.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to get paid if I'm
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: gonna if I'm gonna name her.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, speaking of shocking things and people
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: being stupid, I was looking forward to having you here
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: on the podcast.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: To thank you so much. I was looking forward to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: being here. I'm such a fan of the pot thank you.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, look, I guess that may or may
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: not be true because the podcast is called I said
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: no Gifts.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Which I love. I love that title and I love
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the continess of it, and I love that you are
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: just sort of adorned like I feel very like I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: should have done I should have done that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, are you a little jealous of all the things.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous. I kind of feel like I
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: should have put a little more ooph in my gift
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that I brontersting.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: So you did bring a gift.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I did bring a gift. I did.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I did notice you. You know, you should have really late.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: That was rude. And then I saw you holding a
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: gift that was rude because you strike right. Yeah, I
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: don't know what the third strike will be.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: But I haven't said anything offensive.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: No, nothing offensive okay yet not yet.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Thank God. We're not having wine.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: It's wine o'clock. Well, we get into the gift here.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I think that we should. It's not wrapped.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I think maybe that's wrapped. Okay, Okay, I would say
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: it's beautifully wrapped. It's in kind of this gorgeous white sweater.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It's in this gorgeous white sweater that I picked up
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in London, and it is it is meant to wrap gifts.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, of course this is a gift sweater.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Then you unwrap it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Let me unwrap this, okay, okay, let's see if we
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: can get can we get sweater noise on the podcast?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Swetter noise, m soft? Okay, we're unwrapping.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Oh what could it be? It's erotic terror? Oh my god.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: This is I've I've said this before. This is an
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: erotic podcast.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And that is how I felt coming here, is that this.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Is erotic ultimately erotic. Yeah, an erotic Manisphere podcast.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: An erotic Manisphere podcast where there are no Russians in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: sights because Russians cannot act right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: There are a few rules and that's kind of what
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: we build this on. Why did you bring me erotic Taro?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Because I know you really, really well, I've known you
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: for years, right, And I just kind of feel like
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: that that is so you. It's so you. And do
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you want to know a rule? If you want to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: have a tarot deck in your house, you should not
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: go out and buy yourself a tarot deck. You should
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: use a tarot deck that was gifted to you.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, why it's I don't know, some witch made it up.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like maybe some sort of bad someone
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: decided at some point that's bad life actually.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Or maybe just like a tarot store that was like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you should come in and just buy a bunch of decks, fhear, friends,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: because that's the rule. So I feel like every house
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: should have a tarot deck and it should be gifted.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I think that's nice.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And I saw that and I thought it was really beautiful,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and I was like, because I've known you.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Four years a decade at this, pat, Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Our parents are each other's parents, and our friends are
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: each other's friends.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And right, our parents are each other's parents. Everyone knows that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows that whatever that means.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: We know exactly what that means. Of course, I don't
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: even need to think about.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're you're my bridger and I'm your right.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've just been doing this for so long.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Very close, very close, and you've given me so many
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: things over the years.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I have side of what's your favorite thing I've given you?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Well, it was the bike.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: The bike.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You remember the bike?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: The bike, Yes, the baby blue bike.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: It's in the parking lot right now.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh you're still using.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I wrote it to Burbank from where Highland Park. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: that is a ride, right And look, not a drop
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of sweat on.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Me, not a drop because it's glides.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Because it glides, and I've been riding it for years.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm glad.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad. That makes me. I'm so glad.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I know you're a good gift giver. I have wondered
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: when will you bring erotic element into gifting?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Should you pull a card? Of course? Okay, let's see here.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Do are you familiar with what each card means?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Sort of? But also, my house guest did like an
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: hour long taro reading on me last night.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of just like something is energetically happening
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: within me right now. But I think in there is
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: probably a little booklet that'll help us along, that'll help
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: us along I want.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: To read the back it says, be guided by your desire. Okay,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: way ahead of you. Deepen your personal Tarot journey with
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: a focus on love and pleasure, pleasure. This fully illustrated
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: seventy eight card tarot deck comes with an extensive booklet
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: guiding you through ways of reading the cards to help
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you explore intimate possibilities unlock your erotic potential. I'm finally
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: ready to unlock my erotic potential.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think it's so you. It really is
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: so you.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: You know, of course, of course, Okay, let's oh, I
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like how that sounds.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It's nice. It's like an Apple box.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Box that you would get from the Apple store.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Not an apple designed in Coopertino. Ye.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right, this could.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Be an Apple product. Okay, look at how sixy? Wow
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that's a very sixy? What is this going to lead to?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: This? H The podcast is getting steamy? Should I Should
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I shuffle the cards? Yeah?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Shuffle? Let's see, Yeah, because I'm gonna pull it for you.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: So you need to shuffle it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You need You're going to be for you?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you so I should shuffle right? So
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I can imbue it with my energy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm telling you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: That's no. I'm going to pull for you. You shuffle
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to pull for you. Those are the rules.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I think what the trouble I'm having
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: right now is when the person pulls for so you
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: pull for me, that means the card will be about me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to touch the cards right now
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and then when I pull for you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But i'm the interpreter.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Right when it's your turn to get your taro red,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: you'll you will touch the car, sure, and then I
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: will pull for you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Or we can also just do whatever the fun we want.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: No, no, this is serious. This is erotic.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: This is serious. This is erotic.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: This is going to lead to me unlocking my potential.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to screw around. Okay, I did
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: a I can't shove a car. I'm no dealer. Okay,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: so there we go. And okay, so.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Now so now you pull. Okay, so now energetically pick
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a card. Okay, here we go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: So now I flipped you flip it. We're so mad
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: about this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: So this is the three of candles. Okay, that's erotic. Okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: what is the three of candles?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Okay? Look at that? Let me see that car.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Look look at this card. Okay, three of candles.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I will say, it's a you know, it's like a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: red candelabra with some pink melting candles of candles. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: don't think I've ever seen a three of candles in
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: another deck. So are they like?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: These are kind of like each deck is sort of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like it's jelly beans beans and the four of gumdocs.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You know, they're kind of I think candles is maybe
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: swords swords, right, yeah, okay, three of candles Okay, so
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the candles which is actually supposed to be wands in
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a classic terrale.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Oh okay.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Spontaneity okay, fast action, fast action, that's erotic.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Passion, passion, okay, power power.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, adrenaline, oh life force, creative fuel and urges inspired work,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: stroke of genius. And this is the three of candles.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Stay determined to remain adventurous. Take your ideas for a walk.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Take your ideas for a walk, seek outside influences. A
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: third component may further ignite.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Oh in right, go on a walk and find a third.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And then there's a little a subcomment. Don't be nonchalant
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: about any collaborations proposed to you. Make sure all parties
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: are comfortable going forward. What am I.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Supposed to do with that information? And also what does
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that leave for the rest of the cards? I feel
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: like it covered every corner of the erotic world.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Right, it's more erotic than that, right?
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's have you imbue the cards with your energy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Pull for you or you pull for again. My apologies
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: to the new age community. Crystal shop owners are mad,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: but you know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: This is really impossible to shuffle.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: They're very difficult. Anytime I have to I'm in charge
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of shuffling cards, I embarrass myself.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I feel again, this is awful math class. Yeah, I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: was bad at math in school. I was diagnosed with ADHD.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Did they make you do cards?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: No, they just gave me like extensive testing and then
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: started talking to me like I couldn't hear. So that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: was my high school experience. Caitlin, are you doing okay?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: This is the lesson making sense to you? Yep. I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: sexually active and I smoke clothes cigarettes. I'm doing good anyway,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Just me trauma dumping on you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I had give it and then you
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I think I'm supposed to be like bop bop bop.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But let's we have to, you know, eye for an eye,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: so you just pull one. We've got to have kind
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of a one for one situation.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, mine is the chariot.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: The chariot, and look at describe what's happening on that
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: chariot card.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: This card, it looks like it looks like a gay
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Pride parade.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: It looks like gay Mad Max.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It looks like gay Mad Max is exactly what it
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: looks like.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: They're like, there's a car. There's a biker gang.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the way to Long Beach.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: They're obvious, they're headed south and there are four people
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: in a car, three who are standing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really unsafe, right, And I'm not about
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: like non safety on the road. No, No, I don't
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: like that. Seat belts, seatbelts please.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: We went through a large period of human history where
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: a seatbelt was optional, which is interesting.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, like like, yeah, what was it that the seventies live?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so young? What was the seventies?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Like, you're afraid people are going to think you were
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: born in nineteen forty.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm online a lot and people people think
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like someone's grandmother.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Who is this lady? She eighty years old?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: What are you still doing on TikTok? Let me read.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think for you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: What is it the chariot? Let me try and find
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it for you. I think it's I think it's at
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the front.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, the Empress, the emperor, Okay, let's see the fool.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like you don't like my gift.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I love this, Actually, what do you like about it?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love how sexy it is. I love
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: how steamy it is. I love that it's just kind
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: of bringing a new heat.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: To the park, front, to the front. I went all
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the way to the.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Front the chariots chery.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: This says your keywords are will to succeed. This is
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: a less success or less sexy thing already. Confidence.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Vehicles. I love the way you say vehicles vestibules.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: How would you say vehicle vestible?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: A moving entity? Vehicle, vehicle.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: The hicless the hicless graduation, adolescent cockiness what okay? Landing
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: on one's feet upstarts and startups. That feels like a CBS.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like this was written by.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Ai Fame probably was Let's fame in the Yes, we
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: like this for you and championing which you didn't do
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: for your Russian French.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Her career is falling apart.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, right, image, it's somebody's first pride parade. Rainbows around ah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: my first pride parade.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: This is the feeling of triumph when you set yourself
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: a goal and achieved it for all to see. This
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: is a glorious moment of exhilaration onlookers acknowledge and admire you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Bravery and determination have paid off. Though this is only
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the first step in a longer journey, so now you
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: need some advice. This is often a card to first experiences.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Make up your mind to do something and then carry
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: it out, despite uncertainty and unsteadiness in the early stages.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Don't dwell on the details. Keep your courage up and
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: you will win. Take care. You won't get what you
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: want unless you make it decisive effort. Enjoy your victory
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: for a while, but then you'll need a fresh angle.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You can't stick to the same approach. This is all
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: over the place. Consider sharing a need to overcome internal conflicts.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: The whiplash of what you're supposed to be doing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: What is happening? I don't even know what this means?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: What does this mean?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I'm getting motion sickness.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I hate this card.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: The only thing that works here is fame.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So all I heard was fame.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You got stars in your eyes.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Fame and that people admire me. And then also to what.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: To do a bunch of it's going to require work
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen, and I don't know that that's going
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: to be precise. No, you strike me as a very
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: lazy person. There's zero sex in this God, you're at
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: your first Pride parade. You're the dork.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's telling me that I'm going to be in
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: La Pride Parade this year.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: So interesting on a float?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I would love fame, fame. Interesting. Have you been to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a Pride parade before? Never?
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Is actually protest. No, I've been too many. You've driven
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: by home. I'm an ally Bridger, Bridger, Bridger, you're an ally.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: You're an ally? Yeah, I you know the moment I
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: met you through my parents years and years ago, when
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: my parents introduced me to your parents, they said, our daughter,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you got to meet the scale she's an ally. She
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: wasn't before it was bad.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I was sort of an I was sort of like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you know, playing pretend to my dollhouse, and like I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: didn't want to be a doctor. I didn't want to
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: be a marine biologist. I didn't want to be an actress.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be an ally. Right, That's what I
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I was pretending to be. You were pretending, Yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: what do you want to be? When you grew up
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: an ally? Right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So then you went mask off and you were not
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: an ally for that. You know, those five years or so.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: That was a dark time.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: That was a dark time. But we're glad to have
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: you back on our team.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: And now you're meeting Connor story at events. I know
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: you're kind of and you're gonna be on a float.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on a float, probably of your own design.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could you just show up?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: You could probably just design a float and show up
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: at a parade.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of feel like, hey, guys, I've been
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: working on this for a while. It's made of flowers,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and can I just roll through?
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like it is a really intricate process though, But.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you do all the work for that,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and you show up and they don't let you get
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: in the parade. What are we doing? Yeah?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: What are parade's for? I also kind of I have
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a sneaking suspicion that float people are really.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Obnoxious, really normal.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, what does your cousin do? She builds floats,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: she wants stop fucking talking about it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: How do you get into the float biz?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: How do you get into the float bit?
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: How do you break in?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: You probably get big on TikTok.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big on TikTok. You get like viral for like
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: your cat or something. Then all of a sudden you're
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: sort of like parlayed into the float to the float,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're like, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: at the red carpet at the vanity for Oscar party,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: asking you know, people questions just because that question that
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: is the pipeline.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Smart questions, incisive questions.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I was a float influencer and now I'm at the.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Met Yeah, it's the natural paths the natural. That's journalism,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: that's journalism, that's journalism, that's integrity. Yeah, what sort of
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: tarot cards do you have at home?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I have a couple. I have one that's like a
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: little pocket tarot book called The Wild Unknown. Oh, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: like that where it's like really cool pictures. And then
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I was given another tarot deck that I think is Russian.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you brought a Russian theme and.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That was Those were both gifted to me.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: You've never purchased I purchased this one for yourself.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: No, you're a real natural teraro y person.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I just like I like witchy stuff sometimes. You know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that's because because I don't have a good foundation, that's.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Why you're kind of out of control.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little emotionally out of control, So I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: like terot cards.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I would describe you first as lost.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm a little lost. I have my astrological sig tattooed
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: on my wrist that I'm currently in the process of
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: trying to get rid of.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I see it? Yeah? So it's speckily because
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I actually started the process of getting it removed at
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Laser Away, but I had a very unfortunate experience there,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: so I didn't I didn't finish the process.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Well, this is an unfortunate experience at Laser Way it's.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Just a laser away.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Is that what it's called. Yes, it sounds like a
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: spinoff of massage envy or something.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, God I miss massage envy. But no. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: went in and there's kind of like they call you
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: like hey, babe or haym like came on, my things
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: are coming in, and I just like call me, ma'am.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: This is a medical proceedure.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: This is a medical procedure. Call me by my full
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: government name.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: We're not on bean bags, right, And.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I went in one of the rooms and I'm sitting
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: there and the practitioner that walked in, uh, at one
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: point like dropped the machine, was like, oh sorry, I'm
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just like all over the place today, and then dropped
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the glasses on the ground that she was supposed to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: put on my face. And then I think I was
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: trying to be like kind and charming. So I was like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: oh god, it's my first time a little I'm a
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: little nervous. You know, I've also told this story in
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: another podcast.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll get those removed, okay.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: But so she was about to take a laser to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: my skin, right, it is a it is a procedure.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So she was about to take the laser to my skin,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: but instead she grabs my arm, shakes it and goes
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So then I also started screaming. I look at her,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I go, what what? She cocks her head back, starts
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: laughing hysterically and goes, I'm just fucking with you, girl.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And like I partly appreciated the gumption, like I was like, yes, yes, right,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: like you're my kind of girl. But then the other
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: half of me is like this is not good at all.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And then she did it and she was like, ah fuck,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like it didn't do a lot. Like I
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: just felt it was just not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Like in this moment, you're like, I'm sorry, this isn't
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: working for me.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then so then I left and then I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: had another I had another appointment like six weeks later.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So I went to that other appointment, same thing. It
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: was just like kind of chaos. The machine wasn't working,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: and the girl that was doing me, she's like, I mean,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: do you want to use this machine? And I was like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you tell the other what's going on. So then I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: got so it's really expensive, and I got mad and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: then I complained. So then Laser Away Customer Service called
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: me to sort of talk about the incident, and I
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: was like, listen, I know that these girls are working
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: really here like I, but it was just it was
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: not good. I was like, also, the room was like
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: really dirty and wasn't prepped for a patient. The customer
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: service person I'm talking to you goes dirty? What do
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you mean dirty? Do you have pictures giving me attitude
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: like I'm in a sorority? It was so weird. And
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: then I posted it on Instagram and then they finally
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: refunded me because I.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Posted on it. Right, you eventually kind of have to
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: blackmail them.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I blackmailed them on Instagram where I was like I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: had such a bad experience there, and then they finally you.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Can't privately complain anymore. Private complaints do very little.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And I have to say I do love complaining when
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: it's warranted, of course, yeah, I really do love it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Well, it improves whatever the problem is. Eventually somebody is
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: told yeah, and then you might get a free coupon.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And I love a free I love complaining in coupon.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So what a perfect combination. So what was the end
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: result that you got your money back?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I got my full money back, and they were like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: let's let's start over. And I was like, you're never
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: touching me again, like.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: It's a marriage.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like someone else. It was just so weird because
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it was like, no, I think that this is just
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: like a poorly run business and you're hiring a bunch
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: of people that you're you're not training, so it's like
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: kind of not their fault, it's like management's fault whatever.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about anything.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Is there another laser place you can turn to?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And so I have this specky, stupid tattoo.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: When did you get it?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I got it when I was twenty three after a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: really bad breakup. Oh sure, I had cut my hair.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I started I started bleaching it like white. Okay. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I was wearing a cutoff.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: T shirts very run, Lola Run.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was wearing cutoff T shirts like all my
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: T shirts didn't have sleeves because that was sort of
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: like the indie luck. In twenty thirteen, I was going
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to Harvard and Stone every night. Okay, I was doing improv.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That's when I started doing improv. And I was like,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I'm going to spend time in your life. Yeah, And
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I was like I'm going to drive out to duarte
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to get a tattoo, and that's exactly
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: what I did.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's so inoffensive. I feel like, what just
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: keep it well.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Some people think that it's the word me. Oh interesting,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and then some people think that it's like a Christian
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: emblem the right yeah, and then some people think it's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: another astrological sign that it isn't. So like, no one
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: really knows what the fuck this is.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Which sign is it? It's Virgo.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It looks exactly like Scorpio, except a little different.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I wonder if you I wouldn't have known that was
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: an astrological sign. I wonder what my guests would have been.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I think I would have been like, it's MP. Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I've been like, what are the who is MP? To you? Also,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: this was supposed to be a matching best friend tattoo
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: with my best friend, and so I got the tattoo
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: first and it was three times bigger than i'd ask
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: And so she's watching it happened. She's like, wow, that's
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: really big, and then she got it done in a
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: different place right here. Oh it looks like a mole.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So I got kind of dupped.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I would rather have a tattoo than a weird mole
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: on my finger.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have a weird mole on my fing You'd.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Rather have a that's what you think. But then you're
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: prepping food and people are like, uh, you should have gloves.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of mole are we talking about?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I mean it seems like if I can spot a
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: mole on a finger, that's a big mole.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I have moles on my fingers. No, you don't. People
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: rarely have If I do, you know, it's weird I have.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I had a mole on my finger that actually disappeared.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Did you ever have warts on your hands? Oh?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: My god, I was a wart kid.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: You were, I, thank god? And knock on wood. I wasn't,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: but that seemed like a tough thing to have.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I got warts on my thumbs all the time, and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I got warts on my toes all the time.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Wo how does that happen?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Just you know? I would I was a barefoot kid.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I would like be in the backyard a lot. I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: loved feeling like I was a fairy, so like movies
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: like The Secret Garden or like The Little Princess, Like
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just sort of like in the wild, And I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: would have to go to my mom's dermatologist and they
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: would have to freeze the warts off, and I used
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to get the same wart on my thumb and ah god,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it was so painful. It was like a huge part
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: of my childhood. That and the fact that I had
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to wear a patch for my lazy eye.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Yeah, so that the patch is cool.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It wasn't cool.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to support you.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It was They're like, wow, her eyes
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: are fucked up. So I wear a patch.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I think a patch when it's like the kind of
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: beige color not a good book.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: It was flesh color.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It gotta go with a black one. The black eye
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: patch is cool and dangerous. All the other ones are
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed of my eye patch. No, embrace it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: It's got a long history with pirates, et cetera. It
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: looks like kind of spooky and edgy.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, don't look at me, right, and
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: then we're all looking at you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think it's a lot sexier now, right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I think that we've sexified the I finally, finally, which
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: is good and good for us, right, thanks, I mean
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: for you and I personally, I think next it'll be
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the peg leg.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Oh that could be sexy. Yeah, but I mean I
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: feel like all of those things. Are you embrace rather
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: than run?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, embrace ale things.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: So you have wars, So you have a long history
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: with things being burned off your body.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, interesting. I recently got something burned off my nose.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Not a wart, it was a popule.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Oh mm hmm. What's the difference between that and a zi.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Well, so a popule is like a really hard nodule
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: on your skin that looks exactly like basil cell carcinoma. Oh,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and so so it could be dangerous. It could be dangerous.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I was on TikTok at two o'clock in the morning
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: and I saw I was like, oh, that's that thing
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: on my nose. And this person was like, I had extensive,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: messed up skin cancer on my face. And so I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: started crying and I woke up my husband and I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: was like, I have skin cancer. He was like what.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: So I went to my dermatologist that burned off my
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: words when I was a kid. You're still going to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the same person, same one.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Wow. I like a lifelong doctor.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I went in there and it's tizzy.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, I have skin cancer, right? She told
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: me it was a papule. She burns it off.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Are you not going in for a yearly checkup? No?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not good at that. But now I'm an adult,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and now I am.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: You gotta do it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So now I have a dentist.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Now, okay, you've got a dentist. That's a hart. I
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: just got two all caps texts for my dentist. I'm
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: quite sure what's going on.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: What did they say?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: The first was the office is sick. We have to
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: cancel your appointment.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: The office is in all all. The office is sick.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: We have to cancel your appointment. Where is this dentist?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want to to name the person, but why
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: do you have so much? Oh my god, I'm not
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: sure it's something I heard a witch dentist in the past.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Well wait, who is that?
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: That's Alice Ellis is upset that I have a lot
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: of dentists from. And I will say, in my defense,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I love this dentist. They're in Glendale.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Ellis. I'm so sorry. I got so scared by your
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: voice that was really scary. That was on me. You
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: guys are trying to breeze. You're trying to breeze past that.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I've never protect my dentist.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, Ellis, that was really scary.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I pushed my protect the dentist button and that tells Ellis.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: But in Ellis times in Okay.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: No, they're in Glendale, and I love I love this
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: group of people.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Something well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I think Glendale is wonderful.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I lived in Glendale for three years. It was three
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: years of what.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Was so rough about it?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Everything?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I like Glendale. I like the Americana. I love the Galleria.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, for fuck's sake, I prefer the Gallery. I prefer
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: anything outside of Glendale, the Americana.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Really, that AMC is the only movie theater I'll go
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: to at this point.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: The only AMC I'll go to is the one at
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the God, the Lamely the what's it called. Oh it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: off of Sunset. Oh oh no, no, no, it's not even
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: it's not an AMC. It's a Landmark. Yeah, it's off
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: of Sunset. It's worth it's where Crunch used to be.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda Triangles.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I know, but they have a Landmark Theater there that
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: is top drawer.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It's very nice. But it's like the park. Oh my god,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Even dare there's a CB two right there?
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Is it free parking?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, is anywhere free parking?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: The galleria and then you walk to the America, Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: They need people. There is there a Brookstone still in
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the galleria? That's a good question.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Probably them all is large and mysterious. They've got three floors,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: they've got a they've got a kinds of nooks and
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: cran probably.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I bet they have like a brick and mortar dippin' dots.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: They have a lot of rotating dessert shops. Yeah, your
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: dessert shops and malls. I'm always like, okay, just close
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: it down, just get ahead of yourself.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: No one's dessert person.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I love desserts, but in the mall, when it's like
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: waffles with chocolate syrup on them, I'm like, this isn'to
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: mall food. No one's eating this on one of those
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: weird mall couches.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Right, I love a mall couch.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Oh do you ever eat on them?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I have. I always think, like I always
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: think when I look at a mall couch and I
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: look at like the furniture within an enclosed mall. Where
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: is that store? Right? Like, are they like do malls
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: talk to each other and they just have a warehouse
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the mall furniture or are they buying it from Is
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: there a mall furniture store or is it like here's
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the mall now we have all the furniture for the mall,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: which comes from the same guys that built the mall.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Like, what's this from the guys brought you mall?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Here's mall sofa?
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Do you know what a twisted mind of.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, from the twisted mind of Beverly Center. We have
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: sort of couch.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I think they have well, I'm kind of picturing right
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: now playing the SIMS and you just click buttons and
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: then you're kind of rotating the couch around in the mall.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Mall tycoon.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I love this, of course, Wait, they should do mal tycoon.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I think there was a malt tycoon and I think
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: it sucked.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, did you ever do roller coaster tycoon? Who
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: do you think you're talking? Of course? Did you did SIMS?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You were like I did SIMS and roller roller coaster tycoon?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And you hid your sims have sex a lot, of course, okay,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: of course called was it called woohoo?
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Wo Yeah, they're getting under the covers and kind of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: then they're just kind of two things, kind of maneuvering
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: around underneath.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: The sheep that you're here. Wos not big not big
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: golda and it's woohoo.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And then we're how does the baby arrive? Does a
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: stork bring it?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: You open the toilet.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think the sim was pregnant for him. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: think the sim is pregnant now. Now it's like very intricate.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really getting into the realistic aspect. Yeah, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I've kind of had to distance myself.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I know it's a little stressful. I'm trying to build
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: my house exactly, but it's like really like you need
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to be an architect, like you need to do math,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going on.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: And they don't have your wallpaper, right, so forget it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I don't have any wallpaper. You don't have that wallpaper.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I need to renovate parts in my house.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's wallpaper on its way out.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: No, I think that a powder room slash guest math
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: should be wallpapered.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I think we're probably at peak wallpaper though, right. Don't
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: you feel like we're like headed back towards no wallpaper?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: No, because I hate what millennials have done to interior design.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's the worst thing we've done
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to society.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Well, hate it or not. Trends come and go.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: But I do think wallpaper stays. You think I do, But.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: There was don't you remember the period when people thought,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: get rid of all paper, get rid of carpet, And
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: we're kind of still away from carpet.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I okay, so I ripped up the carpet in my
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: house because it was I mean, you can't do carpet,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: but I will say I do kind of love a
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: carpeted bedroom.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Oh it feels amazing on your feet. Yeah, but it's
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: just how do you get one that looks good?
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: You get you need to go flashy, You need to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: get like a dark fun like. You need to make
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: it a vibe. Right.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: You can't like an eye patch situation. You want it
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: to shine run.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Away the dazzled eye patch, not flesh colored.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A beige carpet is like, you can't do.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: A beige carpet, right, yeah, but.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Then I'm I can't. I cannot picture a good looking carpet.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can, Yeah, you can go on Nordic Knots
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: dot com Nordic No, yeah they have really. I just well,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I just bought a rug from Nordic Knots because I
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: was freaking out about the rug I was going to buy.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I ended up buying another rug. So now I have
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a Nordic Knots rug coming. But it's bright royal blue.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Oh that sounds nice. Now, a rug, that's nice. A
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: rug I can do with. But a full carpet. What
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: about a fully carpeted mall?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I hate that this is this could save. It feels
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: like a backroom. Do you know like backrooms?
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, a mall where every floor is carpeted.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Imagine the sound in there would be so damp.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Oh god, that's how I feel about like huge hotels
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of the big conference floors. Oh yeah, I don't like that.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't really hear your feet hit the floor.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Can you hear anything?
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: You vanish?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you vanished? That's where you go to vanish. Wow.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sure no one's been brave enough to try
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: that yet with a fully fully carpeted mall.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I think that it wouldn't go well because I think
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that I think that people are disgusting shoes off shoes
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: a shoe off mall.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Yikes, Look you say that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't want to see anyone's feet. Ever, how
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: do you feel about your own feet? I my feet
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: are really cute, but I don't like I want everyone's
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: feet away from me.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the shoes off mall is probably not for you.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you wear flip flops?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, good. I guess if I were like
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: on a vacation that was going to be almost exclusively beach,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I would probably have crocs, okay. Or I guess I
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: would put on flip flops, but then I just don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: have any other use for them in my life.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: It's like your daily shoe.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: It's this.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It's a kind of oh god, it's a it's a van.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Is that a van?
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a van in kind of a marshmallow beige color.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I've bought several pairs that are now I have a
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: new pair in the closet, just waiting until these ones die,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: and then I have worse pairs than this for other occasions,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: and they're all the same color, only it's the only
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: one that I'm like, I like how this looks.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: And what's the original color white?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: No, it's this color. So it's kind of an off white,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: so it's not immediately dirty like it. You can build
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: up the level of dirt on this. This is probably
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: a month old.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Shoe at this point. That is, that's like a cool
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: guy shoe.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: This is a cool guy shoe. And you are talking
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: to a cool You are cool, Thank you, thank.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: You are like cool guy.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I'm cool guy. Yeah, I'm the cool guy. And this
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: is a podcast for guys. Yeah, cool guys in the manisphere. Yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: so this is essentially the only shoe I'll wear at
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: this point. Okay, what would you wear? I mean if
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: you were at the beach?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, so like a flip.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Flop flip flop, but not in any other.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: My feet are the only feet that are okay with me.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing brocken Stocks right now. So my toes are.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Out there, they're out and parking. So would you wear
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: a flip flop anywhere else in life? No?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: What about to like peticure, No, I'd wear Brickenstocks Okay,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: be reasonable.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: This is my problem. I need to think this through.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: When I go to get a pedicure, I always wear
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: socks and shoes and then.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: After why I don't know, But do you forget?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I just I don't do it often enough. I'm not
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: part of that world enough to like know what I
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: would which, like should I wear a crock or something?
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Wear a crock because afterwards your foot is dried, but
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: it's still damp enough that you're like pulling on the
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: sock in a weird way.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think sometimes your feet need to breathe, so
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: you wear like an enclosed sandal.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: An enclosed sandal or a slide.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like how a slide.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: It looks like backtball, right, I don't know where I
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: should turn, and I don't want to drive around in
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: a flip flop or be seen wearing jeans and flip flops.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure that's going to come back. Jeans and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: flip flops are really really gross to me. I really
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: don't like that. It's I'm sure it's on its way back.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Just brace yourself. Yeah, I don't like it at all.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Six years from now, you're going to be tooling around
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: them all in a pair of you know, cut jeans
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: and flip flops.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I think that men wearing jeans and flip flops is
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: like it. I don't want any man wearing a flip
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm so so sorry. I really it's
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: really it's mostly straight men, right. I don't know if
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you've ever looked at a straight man's foot.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I've looked at my feet, and as a gay man,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with my feet.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure your feet are more beautiful than
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you think. You're really beautiful, I don't. I don't want
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to comment on anything being ugly, but I do think
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I'm allowed to say this about straight men, and I
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: think that they need to put their feet away, keep
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: them away. Yeah, like you're not allowed. How about you're
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: not allowed to do that, right, That's not something you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: should ever do.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: But I don't want you giving gay men permission to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: wear flip flops either.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I think gay men can do whatever they want.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: See now, this is where I disagree.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I'm an ally. It's my job. Boys, listen to me,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want. Mama's here. That's what
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I say.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I'm the first gay person you've ever talked? Okay, well,
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I think we should probably play a game. Do we
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: have anything left to say about Taro?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull one more card okay, and you're gonna
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: pull one more card.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like we should see.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: And these are just for us?
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's yours?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Mine is the eight of Roses?
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, and mine is the seven of roses.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: What does that mean other than we're bad at shuffling.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Other than we're bad at shuffling?
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Wait?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: What's this one? The King of shells?
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, the King of shells? And it's two people in
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: a gross embrace. That's probably one of the grossest embraces
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: you could do.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Oh really, I would you agree? I actually really love
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: this kind of embrace. You don't like this one?
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Well, how would you describe that as an embrace? That
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: is so gross to me?
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: It's it's you know, you're you're you're twisty tewing to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: each other, You're looking apple your crisscross apple sauce to
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Your legs are wrapped around each other like that, and
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: you're so close.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's cozy, it's wet, it's what what do
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: you think they're doing?
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I look at that, and I'm like, there's a dampness.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: There's a strange element to the way people were sitting.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: That's not for me.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, what what do you like? What do you like?
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Bottom of foot to bottom of foot, legs completely stretched.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: You No, I don't like that. I do like this.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: This is cozy.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Do you like that?
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, listener, I like.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: To talk to people like this. I call this the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: drew Berry Moore.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: That is a total drew Berry drew.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Berrymore for sure. So this is our clarification card. But wait,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: so you picked this six roses roses. Okay, give me
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the buck. Okay, let me try and find it. Okay,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Jesus christ Erre, it's the drew Berry Moore. Wait where
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: are Why is this so hard to I think it's.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Kind of part of the the you know, spiritual element
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Different cards move from page to page, say of.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: The same you got the eight of roses, you said.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I got the eight of roses.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, eight of roses. A regular and reliable arrangement or resource.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we just want someone who can comfortably deliver.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: That's such a low bar.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically you're like you just want someone to
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: take care of you, right, you would be taking care
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: of right, which I love that for you. And then
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: mine is I got the seven of Roses. Mine is
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: slow down, don't overthink a situation that simply needs to
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: run its course. Your patience and dedication will win out.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So basically, I don't really know.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: It's that kind of a critical mom card. Yeah you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: she's just kind of badgering you.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, And what about the Drew Barrymore,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the King of Shells? The Drew Barrymore got out.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: The shells, King of Shells?
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Where are the things?
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: It's impossible to find a card in that? Oh?
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is a terrible and this is for both
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: of us, by the way, Yeah, this is for both
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: of us. This is for like us as a unit.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: This is us, This is us, and that's podcasting. Okay.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: King of Shells us gentle and experienced in love making.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, The King of Shells tends to prioritize pleasuring
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: his partner like a sexual poseidon.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: He displays a powerful oceanic masculinity that's so cuteic masculinity,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: an oceanic masculinity that summons the deeps. The King tends
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: to have a deep understanding and a magnetic gaze. Expect
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: eye contact, a slow build, and possibly a sensuous massage
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: at beginning and end.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: And then here's beginning bookends, yeah, bookend massage okay, pre
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: and post okay.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Interesting And then the take care note is when on balanced,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: this king can pursue his emotional whims to damaging extremes that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Are so damaging all the time. Yeah, go off, King,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: go off, King of the Ocean. Wow, my heart is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: pound damn sweating. This is the most erotic this podcast.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I mean it will get more erotic after this episode,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: but this is really a start.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to and I wanted to end here.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play a game called Gift you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: a Curse. I need to number between one and ten
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: from you four.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: game pieces right now. You can promote, recommend. I don't
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: care what you do.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I am me. My name is Caitlin. I am a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Virgo son, I am a Sagittarius rising, and I am
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: an Aquarius moon. And so what's interesting about that is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Sagittarius risings are adventurers and comedians, so that's why. And
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: then my Aquarius moon means that I'm like a little
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: bit of an alien, you know, I'm kind of a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: bit of a world thinker. And then my Vigo son
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: means that I have anxiety. So that's that's me. That's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: what I have going on. And I yeah, I am
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: busy and I'm doing one thing, but I legitimately cannot
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: talk about it yet, so I'm just gonna I just
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: gave you my Big three instead, So there we go.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Everyone find Caitlin somewhere.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, you can find me on the socials on Instagram.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: It's at high Caitlin Riley. Okay, are people on TikTok anymore?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: That's a good question.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm there on TikTok. Just it's Caitlin. Hello,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Caitlyn Hello. And then I don't I don't have Twitter
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: x because the in cells found me and I deleted it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Don't be sure I share your email?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm okay.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I want one, guess at some point to just give
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: away their email.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I do have Gmail, though, and I hate it. You
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: hate Gmail?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: What's the other option?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yahoo?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Can you still get a Yahoo? Account or are they
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: all legacy account.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Or what is the other option aside from Gmail?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: It's probably some paid thing. It's probably like Apple has
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: a thing that Apple at me dot com.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. I'm not paying for my email.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay, this is how we play gift or
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: me if there are a gift or a curse and why.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: there are correct answers, they can lose great.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Cameron. Gift
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: or a curse When two pieces of a package snack
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: are morphed into one, like goldfish or pretzels, et cetera.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: That's a curse. Why because there's a coagulation going on.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: But I didn't that I didn't pay for. Okay, So
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: say I'm at a restaurant and I ordered the bag
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: of cheese its and let's say there's a huge just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: like cheese curd clump where it's just like the dusting
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: of the cheese it. That's a coagulation I did not
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: pay for, and so that is a curse. I feel
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: like you have I would throw that chip away. That's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: a curse.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Correct, It shows a lack of care.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: There's a lack of care. What happened at the factory.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: What happened at the factory?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: What happened to good old hard work, right, good old.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Fashion, hardy assurance.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Right? If I see those two, I'm taking it back
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: to the store. Well, first I'm calling and I'm yelling
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: at somewhere, and then I'm taking it back to the store.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I'm spitting it out of my mouth. God forbid, I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: chew it. You get it in time out, you.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Go to the store, you have it in your mouth,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: you're talking to someone, you spit it out of your mouth.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Look at this and look at this.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: No, I don't have my receipt, right, Yeah, but an
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: absolute curse. Anyone that disagrees is wrong.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: The second one is from unfortunately former producer Stephen Ray Morris.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: He somehow found his way into my inbox. Give her
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: a curse. An unprompted wall of a text message.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Oh I love gossip waits. So it's a wall of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: text that you are receiving from somebody. Is it good
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: or bad? I guess that's what we're finding out. I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: think it's a gift. Why because I the other day
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I sent my group chat a fifteen minute voice note
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm not kidding.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: You have to send like a quiz after to see
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: if they actually listen to and they do, and they
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: did fifteen minutes. Yeah, desperate for a podcast? Right, that
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: was a backdoor pilot. Yeah, one of them says, this
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: is enough, let's let's start a podcast.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: No, I think I do think that it's a gift.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I love I love it when someone needs to tell
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: me something. I like being involved.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Correct, Yay, this is a gift.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: It's either going to be a ton of gossip, yeah,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: or it's going to be the start of some sort
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: of situation in your life with a lot of drama
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: because somebody's mad, someone has something to.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Say, someone cares to communicate with you. Right, it's actually
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: really romantic, just.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Scrolling and scrolling through one block of text. I love it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I love it anytime your heart, regardless of what it says,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: your heart will be racing for a minute because you'll
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: be thinking, oh my god, what why didn't they do this?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: In four different texts?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's reminding you, like, baby, I'm alive.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Right, and you picture them at their typewriter, typing away,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: sending that thing off to you. Oh yeah, there's that's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: dedication to care. That's the opposite of the goldfish situe.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: The new love letter, right.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: It's the new love letter. Yeah, all right.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Finally, this is from a listener named Brian Gifter. A
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: curse those little free library boxes that people put up
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: in front of their houses.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's really performative to me, and I don't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: like it gift or a curse. It's a curse because
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: if I walk past it, all of a sudden, I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: have to interact. And if I don't interact, then apparently
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I don't like people are reading. It's this perform it's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: a performative thing. It's a performative community thing. It's really cute.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: I just like part of me is like, oh great,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you have like homemade granola in your Ketchum.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I just I think it's a curse. I think it's like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: just get it. Get the book from Amazon. Please. No
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: one is the time.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: God wrong, wrong, this is a gift.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Amazon's terrible. Don't do that. Go to bookstores.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: No. I spoke to Caitlin before she has a kind
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: of a partnership. She's teamed up with Amazon.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, whatever. Mama's got a payabell. You needed that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: fifty bucks? Yeah?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: No, these are a gift. Look, have I ever found
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: a book in one that I wanted to read or
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: had any interest ever in taking home with me? No? Okay,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: but it's a nice little moment where you get to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: stop and kind of just linger in front of a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: stranger's home for too long, kind of looking through their things.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: How often do you get invited to look through strangers things?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I don't get invited enough,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and I do love looking through strangers things.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm now thinking this is a new show Stranger's Things.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Stranger Maybe it could be like an antique road show
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: style show. Yeah, where they're appraising strangers things, and then
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: we bring in a supernatural element that doesn't pay it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Praisers are dressed up as Demi Gorgan's.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: There we go, Yeah, there we go. This is coming
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: together strangers things.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Strangers things. I like that this is our thing together.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: This is that we found it Siranda's reach out. This
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: is us pitching strangers things to Ted. Saranda's on his desk.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: We're sitting through Bary Moore style on his Yeah yeah,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: He's like, when are they going to kiss?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? We never kiss. That. That's the hook of the show,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: the tension. Yeah, well you got.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Two out of three?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Are we done? You've I mean you've I wouldn't say
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: failed the game. I don't fail.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: No, you've never.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Failed, not according to my seven roses in my chariot.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Please, I think we should answer a listener question. Fantastic
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: people are writing into I said no gifts at gmail
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: dot com. I'm not afraid to give my email away.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: That's my personal email. I just said no gives it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: email dot com and they're begging for answers. Will help
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: me answer one of these?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: This is Dear Bridger and guests. I have been invited
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: to the housewarming of two newly married friends. The invite
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: states and I quote your presence is gift enough, which
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: is quickly followed by if you insist on bringing something,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: please consider a no Skips vinyl album that would remind
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: us of you. First, I mean, don't go, God, don't go.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, So what's the question.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I just had to kind of I'm
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: collecting myself, you know that kind of shattered me. It
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: seems conflicting to say no gifts but then be asked
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: to bring something. Maybe your guests can relate. Okay, my
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: question is what no skips album should I bring? Do
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: I bring an album that I consider no skips but
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: no they will not enjoy, for example Blink one eighty
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: two's Enema of the State. Or do I select an
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: album that is more in their wheelhouse and likely to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: be listened to by them down the line, for example,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Lady gagaz Born this way, any advice will have you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: have be appreciated. That's from Colin in Portland.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I hate this couple.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: This couple is such a dread that is.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: So obnoxious because do you know what work one needs
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: to go through to like get in their car find
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: the record store because there's record stores on every block
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: in every city.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: I smell another Amazon promo.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Coming from yeah yeah, So then you have to then
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: you have to sift through and find, like like by us,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: a record, but not just any record.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: A perfect to help them, which, by the way, is subjective.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: So it's a little like now we're putting in this
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: weird critical element where you bring something and we might
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: just think you're stupid or you have bad taste. People
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: have all sorts of different types of no skip out.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I'm getting them. Fred Durst solo, Help, Yeah, what is it?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Start but kiss, start, star butt?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: What is.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Let's not ellis? What's that album called star?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: It's hot dog flavored Water's.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: On flavored water and this star But so what is it?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: There's a second part to it.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: This is the Limp Biscuit album, not.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Chocolate Starfish and the hot dog flavored water. And maybe
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: who's Fred Durst?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Fred Durst is the He is the vocalist. See, let's
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: call him a singer. He's a singer, singer, singer.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: He's a musician.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: He's a vocalist.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Wait, so I just said the vocalist of Limp Biscuit,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: not just Limp Powerhouse vocalist, Powerhouse vocalist, Limp Biscuit, Starfish,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Water and the hot Dog star Kiss.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Ultimately, what you're trying to say is that's a no.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Skips, a no skips album. So that's the album that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I would bring as a fuck you to this couple,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: or bring an organic orange wine with like a lot
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: of sediment in which I did the other day. I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: did the other day and the househost was like, oh wow,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff in it. Huh. I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: there is hot dog flavored water, hot dog flavored water,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: and the star Butt Kiss.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: That feels like a wine spin off or Limp Biscuit.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: They should start a wine business. They should kind of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: spin off of that album. Yeah, that would revive sales,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I think so. I bet they're looking for that.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's resurgence.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like Collin take the Olympiscuit album, Yeah, take
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: a Long, which I'm sure was on vinyl. That feels
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: very Vinyl.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Ready for me, very Vinyl ready album.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: There's a warmth to that album there is.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to I want to, really, I want
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: to feel like I'm in the studio kind of surrounded
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: by the sound of it all. I want to be
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: inside the Biscuit.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, or take nothing, because they did say don't bring anything.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: When somebody says don't bring anything, and then the second
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: thing is extremely annoying if I even show up, right.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: But also like so, then so then if you say
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: it's such a specific gift, So if you say don't
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: bring anything, but if you're going to bring someone something,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Please bring a vinyl album that perfectly reflects you as
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: a human being. So then they're going to so so
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: here's the thing they're leading the witness, Right, So this
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: couple is like, that's going to make everyone want to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: bring an album because what a fun little game. So
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: every single person is going to come in the house
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: and be like, okay, so this is the vinyl album
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I brought, and then the couple is going to be like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: oh my god, of course yes. It's going to be
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: this really cute back and forth, and then there's going
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: to be that one person that doesn't bring in a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: vinyl album, and it's going to be a disappointment. Right,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: So I would say my answer is don't go.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: I think absolutely don't go.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Cut them out, Yeah, look at them out of your
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: life because they sound very toxic.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine going to that and being the only
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: person that brings vinyl and I.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Would do it? Oh, I thought you meant the only
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: person that doesn't bring vinyl.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Either way, it's horrible, But imagine showing up and you're
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: the only person who did that. The horror, the spine chill.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: And how obnoxious I would have to leave.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I would put it on a table and just walk out,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: and the.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Couple would make it would be a whole It would
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: be the sort of centerpiece of the evening.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Right of course, of them making fun of.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: You, no, of them being like, uh, oh, Bridger, I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: can't believe you actually bought an out. Oh my, oh
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: my good uh Fridger, wait okay, hold on, wait butriger
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: come here, wait hold on Bridger, Okay, why this richer?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Why this album?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Then they put it on.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, so they're gonna make a whole spectacle of it,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: because that is inherently what they want, right, So they're
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: gonna just hook into you the whole night. Personal hell yeah,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: personal health. Well, we answered the question perfectly. I think
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: we did.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: You didn't win the game, That's fine.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't win the game. I was kind of an
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: annoying guest. I was late. I think I talked over
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: you a little bit. You're kind of loud and repetitive.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: You've been a real d plus I've been a real Yeah,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I'm unfortunately.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: But that's okay.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: That's why we're able to delete audio.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Thank god.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: All right, I mean this will we'll save this as
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: like once the podcast is fully over. We'll be like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: and one special tree. This one. Don't get your hopes
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: up at the episode sucks. Yeah, but you can listen
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: to it because you need more. Yeah, that'll be in
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: a few years and that's fine, fantastic, and you'll be
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: famous by then. Fame, fame.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: It's in my car.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be on floats galore.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: I'll be on floats galore. I've had such a lovely
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: time with you. I've had such a lovely time with you.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you for being here.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. It's just over. I'm I'm
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: asking everyone to stop listening. Stop, get over it, move on.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: the show on Instagram. At I said No Gifts, that's
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: I invit?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Did you hear Gonta made myself perfectly clear.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: But you're a guest to my home.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: You're our presences, presents enough, and I already had too
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: much stuff. So how do you dare to survey me