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ITB on WBCB: Adam Caplan, Andrew DiCecco Talk Eagles Vs. Bills, Resting Starters For Week 18 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Pro Football Report presented by BCWSA, a
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  Speaker 1: by BCWSA. Now Here are your hosts from Inside the Birds,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan and Andrew did Check.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, welcome everyone. Look the man said. It's the
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  Speaker 2: Pro Football Report, presented by BCWSA on fourteen ninety WBCB
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  Speaker 2: and one of seven three FM and also seeing live
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  Speaker 2: at wbcbsports dot comts Adam Kaplan and Andrew Czecko from
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  Speaker 2: by Chris Hmer. Andrew. Great to see it, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: great to be with you. Adam. We're back here. It
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  Speaker 2: is week eighteen. I don't know how it got here,
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  Speaker 2: but it's here, so Andrew and we'll get to the
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  Speaker 2: big game. Obviously, in terms of seating, we'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 2: but everyone's fixated on the offense and what happened in
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  Speaker 2: the second half. We're going to get to that. But
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  Speaker 2: let's take your overview of what happened in Buffalo. Really,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're an Eagles fan, your nails are
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  Speaker 2: probably gone. It was a nail buttter, but somehow they won.
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  Speaker 2: What's your overview? Gives your overview to start the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the defense was lights out, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: be able to hold a Buffalo Bill's team that, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're devoid of a lot of offensive weapons, but when
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  Speaker 3: you have James Cook and you have Josh Allen, you're
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  Speaker 3: always going to be a threat to score points. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought the Eagles, especially their pass rush, did a
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  Speaker 3: really nice job getting home rattling Josh Allen, who obviously
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  Speaker 3: wasn't as mobile as he ordinarily is with the foot injury.
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  Speaker 3: The offense, I thought Jayalen Hurts early in that game,
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  Speaker 3: made some big time throws into tight windows and had
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  Speaker 3: the offense on schedule. They weren't playing from behind the sticks.
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  Speaker 3: And then in the second half it was a stark contrast.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't see that the same fluidity. They weren't able
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  Speaker 3: to string together any semblance of offense, and they were
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  Speaker 3: fortunate that the Eagles defense was able to hold them off.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the defense proved once again. You can
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  Speaker 3: say it was the Raiders. You could say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: look at different points of the season. But they are
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  Speaker 3: absolutely legitimate and I view that as an.
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  Speaker 2: Elite defense right right now, knowing no defense by every metric,
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  Speaker 2: yards per play, yards per game, scoring, everything you look at.
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  Speaker 2: It's phenomenal. And yes, they've played some creampuff teams right sure,
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  Speaker 2: Washingt two weeks ago, the Raiders, but they also did
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  Speaker 2: very well against the Chargers. Okay, very well against the Church. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: justin Herbert surprisingly was able to beat them by running
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  Speaker 2: the football. You wouldn't think that he hasn't really been
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  Speaker 2: a runner since Argon. But again, this game in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 2: and the interesting thing is, and I Andrew, this surprised me.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see this coming. I know you can throw
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  Speaker 2: in the rain when it's not windy, but Hurtz dropped
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  Speaker 2: back twenty times like twenty pass attempts did without a
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  Speaker 2: surprise to you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 3: And actually, to add to your point about the defense
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  Speaker 3: really quickly at him. Also against the Packers and the
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  Speaker 3: Lions they showed up as well. Yes, it was windy
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  Speaker 3: and the conditions probably played a part in it, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not a mirage that this unit is for real.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they're always getting better the more they're
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  Speaker 3: playing with each other and Vic Fangio getting a sense
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  Speaker 3: of his personnel and how to best utilize them. But yes,
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  Speaker 3: I was surprised that the Hurts dropped back twenty times
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  Speaker 3: in that game.
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  Speaker 2: No, they had some success. There's no question they were
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  Speaker 2: able to move the football. The four and outs though,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, three and outs they're a problem. Saw a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them the second half. It was dreadful Eagles
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  Speaker 2: to the worst. They're the rank thirty second and four
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  Speaker 2: and outs. That's not good. Three and outs. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 2: They get up one two, three point one, two, three
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  Speaker 2: point You don't want that. That's embarrassing. But offensively it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting they but it was like throw the football mix
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  Speaker 2: the run in Barkley had fifty one yards, which is
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  Speaker 2: a good half hurts it over one hundred yards now
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven. But Andrew, let's not forget there
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  Speaker 2: was a drop. There was a penalty that would have
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  Speaker 2: maybe been a touchdown. So I thought I was pretty
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  Speaker 2: because I remember doing a halftime Patreon chat. I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: they look really good offensively. And then Andrew, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take it from there and we'll get to the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Because I want to talk a lot more about the day. Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but we're gonna finish this off here second half. Andrew,
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  Speaker 2: what were your thoughts overall, just as an overview of
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  Speaker 2: their their their philosophy of what they did, how they
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  Speaker 2: did it. What do you think of that ye.
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  Speaker 3: Had too many negative plays, Ma's missed assignments. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think that was blocked up particularly well up front, and
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  Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley was not able to generate much. I think
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  Speaker 3: he finished the game with three point nine yards on average,
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  Speaker 3: and that's a that's a bottom tier running rush defense
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  Speaker 3: that they were going up against, and they weren't.
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  Speaker 4: Able to capitalize six actually three Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And when you look at that, it just seemed like
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  Speaker 3: they were running into stack boxes and they didn't have
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  Speaker 3: any rhyme or reason. There wasn't like you look at
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  Speaker 3: the sequencing and I think there's a there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of reason to question that.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't seem like the players were being put into
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  Speaker 3: optimal positions to be successful.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that surprised me, Andrew, off of what you said,
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  Speaker 2: was so the first half and they're really good out
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  Speaker 2: of no huddle, particularly empty with five eligibles. Their success
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  Speaker 2: rate is extremely high. Okay, they did well against buff
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  Speaker 2: on the first half. For whatever reason, they stopped doing
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  Speaker 2: it and you talked about it. They would just run
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  Speaker 2: it right up the middle. We know all you're watching this.
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  Speaker 2: They don't block well up the middle. I understand you
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  Speaker 2: can't run every playout set. I get that, but I
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  Speaker 2: always say, when it's not working, to try something else.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like running against a brick wall. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Hertz had zero the second game of season, hit zero.
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  Speaker 2: Art's passing. How does it happen?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean it really is a prevailing theme that we've
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  Speaker 3: seen all year where they're not able to put together
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  Speaker 3: four complete quarters. There are so many inconsistencies, the lack
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  Speaker 3: of sequencing and the innate feel for the game and
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  Speaker 3: then the two that's.
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  Speaker 2: A good point. I like that phrase.
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  Speaker 3: Just the overall executional lapses that you see and their
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  Speaker 3: inability to lean into their philosophical approach of running the football.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at all that, and that sort
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  Speaker 3: of makes up the stew as to why the offense
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  Speaker 3: has not played up to the standard that they set
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  Speaker 3: for themselves or.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew honestly, when it's working again, first half, spreading it
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit too many close formations of the
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  Speaker 2: second half. It look really it's probably the worst half
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  Speaker 2: that I've seen them not only perform, but from a
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  Speaker 2: schematic standpoint in years. Yeah. Now, Now, the shame of
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  Speaker 2: it is since the bye, the passing game maget better
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  Speaker 2: and better and better. Hurts has been better and better
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  Speaker 2: and better effecting me. That throw that he made to
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  Speaker 2: DeVante Smith is I think is the best for his career.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right in the tight window.
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  Speaker 2: You could see it actually on the egos social because
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  Speaker 2: they I don't know how they got it. It's not ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: it's they got some other because I know that all
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  Speaker 2: teams have their own people who come and film the
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  Speaker 2: game that view. Because I remember watching it on TV.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, what did he just do?
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  Speaker 2: And then they showed the replay, I'm like, there was
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  Speaker 2: no window. How did he do it?
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  Speaker 4: That was an insane throat really talk about threading the needle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like it. See that's the thing about this.
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  Speaker 2: All through this, all Hurts has been better. He's thrown
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  Speaker 2: the ball better. We've talked about it. Pull the pin,
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  Speaker 2: be more aggressive, don't be risk averse. But it's the coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Batulo, was risk risk averse after being very aggressive
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  Speaker 2: save two plays in the first half which were they're
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  Speaker 2: called safe plays. The third eight run to Shipley was
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  Speaker 2: was a safe play and then pass out to the flat.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you, yeah, if you want to call
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  Speaker 2: out a screen, it did. It may have looked like one,
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  Speaker 2: but it was so poorly formed. This looked really bad.
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  Speaker 2: On another play, I think the coaches call a safe
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  Speaker 2: flag because I've asked this question before. The coaches, No,
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  Speaker 2: they hate give up the They hate that unless it's
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  Speaker 2: like the last play of the half when you're when
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  Speaker 2: when you're just gonna run it up the middle because
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  Speaker 2: you want the coloctor right now. But I totally agree
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  Speaker 2: with you so offensively, Look, they have to get the
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  Speaker 2: mojo back. On your point, if you want to call
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  Speaker 2: a four quarter game, call a four quarter game, do
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  Speaker 2: what you did in the first half. And it's one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff said this on Jeff Buscher said this on a
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  Speaker 2: post game show. You know, it's one thing if you're
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  Speaker 2: up by four touchdowns, but you're up thirteen to nothing
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  Speaker 2: against maybe the best backup, best come from behind quarterback
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  Speaker 2: of the National Football What are you doing That's another
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  Speaker 2: problem I had.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for anyone expecting a magic formula here that
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be their offense, give or take,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to look probably won't look as bad
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  Speaker 3: as it did in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 4: But we've just seen seventeen weeks of this. This this
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  Speaker 4: is their offense.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's also important to note that this
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  Speaker 3: is the vision of Nick Sirianni and how he wants
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  Speaker 3: this offense to look. Protect the football. You've seen their
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  Speaker 3: record where it is, you know, when they protect the
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  Speaker 3: football and when they you know, versus when they give
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  Speaker 3: it away and they're leaning too much, too heavily on
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  Speaker 3: their defense to sort of bail them out while they
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  Speaker 3: build up a small lead and then they sort of
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  Speaker 3: preserve it. That's the way that I view it personally,
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  Speaker 3: as i've seen it throughout the season. It's sort of
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  Speaker 3: a a conservative approach once they get once they reach
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  Speaker 3: a certain point too much, so I think it's to
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  Speaker 3: their detriment.
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  Speaker 2: And you're listening and watching the Pro Football Report presented
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  Speaker 2: FM and also seen live with WBCB sports dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: So it's Adam Kaplan and Andrew de Checko from Inside
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  Speaker 2: the Birds. And Andrew the thing about this team, you
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  Speaker 2: just talked about defense, because I could literally talk about
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  Speaker 2: this the whole show. We have to talk about other
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: things here. It's just remarkable what they're doing here. It's
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  Speaker 2: Jaylex Hunt. I felt it would take him three or
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  Speaker 2: four years to be what he is right now, because
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  Speaker 2: you know it. I mean, the guy played edge two
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  Speaker 2: years in college. He's safety for Katy, had that crazy
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  Speaker 2: growth for at nineteen years old, and you know he
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  Speaker 2: grew three inches. He's somewhere around six three and a
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  Speaker 2: half long, arms, explosive, He's become like he's grown so much.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Noldsmith in his limited roles doing well, but
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  Speaker 2: right now, how could you go over? How could Noltswi play?
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay Oaks has performed better than No one Jay
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  Speaker 3: Oaks Hunt has. He leads the Eagles with quarterback hits.
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  Speaker 3: I think he has twenty three. He has two interceptions
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  Speaker 3: as well. But when you really look at what he's
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  Speaker 3: doing rushing the quarterback, it's not only that it's setting
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  Speaker 3: the edge with violence, and I think you're able to
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  Speaker 3: see from watching his pass rush technique that he.
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  Speaker 4: Has a lot more varied approach this year.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot more tools in his toolbox and he's
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  Speaker 3: playing with a lot of confidence. He also looks a
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  Speaker 3: lot bigger physically this year than he did compared to
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  Speaker 3: last year, and he's sort of flying around and making
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  Speaker 3: a lot of plays. And we also should highlight Jalen Phillips.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other guy I want to get to fifty. Help,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get to him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's a man. You want to talk about setting the edge,
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  Speaker 2: watch him. Setting the edge means you know, you're playing
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  Speaker 2: your side to force the run inside. It's a force defender.
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  Speaker 2: He's phenomenal because he's so long, good pass rush, relentless
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  Speaker 2: and thankfully that and we'll see if he's leaving listed
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  Speaker 2: on the inter report tomorrow. The practice week is Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 2: walk through, Saturday games Sunday afternoon for twenty five. But
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  Speaker 2: because what he got when he when he limped off
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  Speaker 2: and I was like wow, Then they showed him he
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  Speaker 2: was popping his fist with the helmet and a Sanda lug.
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  Speaker 2: He must be fine, But yeah's he doing?
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  Speaker 4: I saw that?
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  Speaker 2: But I mean this trade is he's this trade has
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  Speaker 2: worked out pretty well. He's been way better than expected. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Nakobe Dean when initially asked about Jay when Phillips when
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  Speaker 3: he first arrived, he said, I love edges who set
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  Speaker 3: edges and he said, that's what Jayalhen Phillips did and
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  Speaker 3: he continues to do.
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  Speaker 4: You see the length of the.
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  Speaker 3: Athleticism, the physicality, He's really embraced what it means to
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  Speaker 3: be on a winning team amongst you know, a close
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  Speaker 3: knick group of players. He's never won a division before
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  Speaker 3: and he knows what's in front of them, So I
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  Speaker 3: think he's really just embraced this opportunity here. And I
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  Speaker 3: think he's played the most snaps that he has as
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  Speaker 3: an Eagle, just on on Sunday against the Bill.
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  Speaker 4: So he's really responded well to Vic Vangeo's coaching.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously they had prior background together in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know that that too much can be
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  Speaker 3: made off of that trade, and he's made a remarkable impact.
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  Speaker 3: Then his presence has also helped Jay Looks.
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  Speaker 2: Hunt and Nolan Smith, I mean the left that they
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  Speaker 2: have in the athleticism. And then I got a couple
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  Speaker 2: of things here, because we got to stay on the
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  Speaker 2: offensive to the defensive line before we take a first break.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Davis continues to do it. I mean their job
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  Speaker 2: they did against James Cook. I was stunned. James Cook
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  Speaker 2: is one of the best. He's he's better than his
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  Speaker 2: brother Dalvin. They shut him down. I know he got
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  Speaker 2: some yards late to bump it up to seventy yards.
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  Speaker 2: But Jordan Davis, I don't know what else to say
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  Speaker 2: about this guy because I never saw first years he
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  Speaker 2: was a bust. Okay, late last season it came on.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, Andrew, we're you out with with Jordan Davis.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, to put James Cook's afternoon into perspective, he was
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  Speaker 3: averaging one hundred and two yards per game and fire
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  Speaker 3: five point three yards per carry. The Eagles held him
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  Speaker 3: to seventy four yards and three point seven yards per carry.
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  Speaker 3: So great job there. But to your question at him,
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Davis, what can you say about him? He's he
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: has four and a half sacks this season. I wish
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  Speaker 3: that there was a number to really showcase how many
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  Speaker 3: times he stopped running backs for no game, literally at
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and just his ability to be
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  Speaker 3: in top condition play. He's he's completely surpassed his snapshare
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  Speaker 3: from last I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna get to that because and when he's playing for
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  Speaker 2: sixty percent, he paid sixty percent, tells he's playing nickel.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, right.
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  Speaker 3: And and then on top of all that, he's grown
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  Speaker 3: into a leader. And when you talk about vibes and
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  Speaker 3: locker room culture, I think a lot of that is
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  Speaker 3: derived from Jordan Davis. You're not gonna have a bad
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  Speaker 3: day if you're around Jordan Davis. He brings the energy
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  Speaker 3: and he keeps everybody around him, you know, upbeat and positive.
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  Speaker 3: So that that's another aspect to his leadership off the field.
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  Speaker 2: All right, everyone, before we take this quick break, when
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  Speaker 2: let everyone know we're here at Chicken Pets on Versabel Boulevard.
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  Speaker 2: It's Adam Kaplan Andrew de Checko from inside the Birds.
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  Speaker 2: And after we come back from our first break here,
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  Speaker 2: we're can go over the entry report a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more on last week's game and what to expect against Washington.
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  Speaker 2: three six eight nine. All right, The big one is
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Lane Johnson with the list franc spraying. See this
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't come down to this. We know the Eagles if
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: they win in Chicago loses the second seed. Like two
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, no one was talking about this because the
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: scenarios were ridiculously tough. I know, I know that they
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: want to be careful with Laye here. I'd be shocked
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: if he played.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be floored if you play that he's not.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's a pretty safe assumption that he wouldn't,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: just given the nature of the injury, and you want
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to make sure he's as close to one hundred percent
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: as possible. Now, it's an interesting conundrum here for the Eagles.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Do you play your starters?
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Do you not? For if it were me, I mean,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: first of all, this isn't it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You don't have a ninety man training camp cross some
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: starters are gonna have to play. It would make sense
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: for those like Tyler Steen and Fred Johnson. But if
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: you're talking about Saquon, Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown, Devonte Smith,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Zach Bond, Jay when Carter, I'm not playing any of
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: those players.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: So correctly, if I'm wrong. Did Aj Brown not get
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: hurt in that Giant game two years ago?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: He did get hurt and they and you saw how
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: well they pulled everybody.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you saw how bad it was against the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Bucks in the playoffs. Yeah, you don't want that again,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: so I I know that they Basically the way it
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: works is this is the day they decided it should
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: be today, and then they tell the players typically what's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: going to happen as a week progresses and they come
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: to work tomorrow. So the other entries, now Britain Covey,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: see I slow that thing down. You know, I'm watching
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the game. I'm like, oh no, I hope it's not.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It looked terrible.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: That's what I said.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: As soon as it happened. I said, oh no, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: then I slowed it down. I'm like, you know what,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's this quad or his thigh. We'll see
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: if he's even listed. But you know, he was fine.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: So the the good return that he had he was
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I'm like, he's fine, he's fine
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: because he wouldn't first, we wouldn't be able to come
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: back and play. It's just kind of funny because it
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: first half, a couple of guys went down. Then the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: big one to me it was worrisome was Jalen Phillips.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Since it's left foot or ankle. Now you saw him
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: on the sideline for a little bit. Then it came
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: back and never took came out again. Yeah, we'll even
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: see if he's listed, But you know, that's terf ball.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: He's another guy that I would not play with this week.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And by the way, he's never he hasn't had a bye.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Week yet this season.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Was that right?
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, because he came over at the trade.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good nugget there.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I do not know that that's somebody that I definitely
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: wouldn't play in this one either. And we should also
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: mention that Cameron Latsu, who had this stinger going into
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: this game. He didn't play last week, but if he noticed,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: he was wearing a cowboy cow for his.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: He played this well. He played he he played this
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: past gaming, but he had he had some point hitting
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: that color on. Yeah, I'll tell you what, Bradon Man,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that that punt was. He was just he's he's elite
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and that and lot to look. I know, he's been great.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You gotta be careful. You got to know where you
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: are because that that point would have put him on
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the one inch Locke.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's tough. One's great and.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do there? Their special teams are
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: getting better now, Washington. It's it's really funny. Andrew. They
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: played them two weeks ago. The same guys are out, okay.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Jane Daniels will practice but will not play. He goes
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: out for the season. Torn Achilles Luke McCaffrey broke his
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: collar bone. He won't be back. Zach Art's our buddy
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: towards right a cl He's out now. This was new
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: from last week in terms of not playing. Laramie Tunseel,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: their left tackle has an oblique strain. Those side injuries
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: are tough to baseball pitchers in baseball out six eight
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: weeks with this injury. It's hard to play with Brandon Coleman,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: who started last year. The Commanders learned Andrew He's not
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: a left tackle. He's too short. He's a better right
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: tackle guard. He's filling in. Their two ends are out
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: for the season. Dietrich Wise right quadriceps tear. That that's
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a nine month rehab, and George Armstrong the other one
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: towards a c L. That's why I mean we talk
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: about Jacob Martin. You were in two weeks ago. We're
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: talk abou Jacob Martin. Yeah, he has to start. He
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: was really good like eight years ago. Uh Marshawn Lattimore's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: out a C. L. Tree amos. I know you talked
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: about him for the draft, broke an ankle. They're so
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: beat up. Now, here's one thing. And I know I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: know that Vic Fangio was and you will talk about
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the press conferences later, but Vic was asked about it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You know, dan Quinn was asked about, you know, the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Eagles going for for for two points right two weeks ago,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and he's like, well, we'll see them in two weeks. Now.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You could read that a bunch of ways. What you're
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: gonna do, tru dan Quinn is not a guy who
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: does something dirty. He's just he wouldn't do that. Well,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't, but you can you kid the players right,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't tell him to do anything. But that that not
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that that should be determinant of whether you rest your
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: players or not, but it just puts another thing on
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the stack of rest versus playing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that's another factor. Washington Philadelphia games.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Have historically been pretty chick frank thank you.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have Frankie Louvo and you have a lot
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of younger players who imagine gonna be playing in that
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: game for Washington that are trying to make their mark,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean, I just don't think that there's
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: a whole lot to gain out of it. Plus, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: mean I believe that the Eagles second and third teamers
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: could play with Washington and beat them.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: They're going against Josh Johnson.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think all that, you take all
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that into consideration. It's not an easy decision, but it
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: should be when it comes to resting players like Jordan
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Malatta and some of those guys that have been banged
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: up throughout the season.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenkins is how many? How many is the use
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: of his three elevations? You know? Two two okay?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: And three for Andre Sam, two for Brandon Johnson.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I know Sam was done. I know that. And Brandon
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Johnson is a guy that is it. Don Jeftter free
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: agent out of our to the crustrant of training camp.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: But I remember seeing it. It's like, oh wow, he's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a line of it's safety. It's interesting, and they like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that he's built like a nickel. Yeah, he's built like
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a nickel. So so it's going to be interesting to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: see what they do because, as we just talked about,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you got to have your start for the playoffs. Any
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: chance they have to make another run. And I'm going
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to say it again. We could talk all we want about. Okay,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the offense, they cannot play a full game. That's fine,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it's the truth. But there are no dominant teams in
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: National FOOTBA League this year because they are absolutely capable
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: of make another run. We're not fans here. We call
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: it down the middle, sure, but no one is much
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: better than anyone this season in the National FOOTBA League.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: That's the way it is.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think even if you zoom out and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: look just at the NFC, all those teams have imperfections.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And we're not sitting here saying the Egles don't, because
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: they certainly do. But I think all things being equal,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: at them, you show a little deference to a team
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: that has demonstrated performance in the postseason, that know what
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to expect and you know they're not going to enter
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: it wide eyed versus someone like a Sam Darnold or
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur, who the Eagles have fared well against the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: word Caleb Williams and a young Chicago Bears team. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: think you feel fairly well about the Eagles heading into
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the postseason.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Because if you look at who the Eagles had inactive
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: last week. Okay, oh, we got to talk about Nikobe
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Dan that's the next injury. So he's got a hamsterring strain.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously he's not playing this week. No, those things you got,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you got to make sure that this thing is totally healed,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: because what happens is the fluid builds up and they
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: higher it up. The higher up it is in your hamstring,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the worse it is. The lower it is, the less
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: you'll be away. So they got to get that ready.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: And I know you've talked to josh ushe so he's
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a guy this week now. He he played very well
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: before he's been weekly inactive. So when you when you're
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in the locker room with him, I mean, what's this mindset? Yeah?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I love josh ushas he has a positive mindset. We
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and him talked a lot about him working on his
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: power rush. And it was funny the week that we
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: were talking about the power rush, it was against the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings and he won and got his first sack
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: as an Eagle off of a power rush. So he's
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: kept a positive mindset and just kind of doing whatever
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the team needs of him, going hard in practice and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: waiting for his opportunity. Now he was on the kickoff team,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: but he sort of gave way for other players and now,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and I mentioned this to someone when he was inactive.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I said, don't be surprised, Josh Usa is going to
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: get another sack before the season's over. But I was
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: looking at that week eighteen, I said, if nothing else.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: That's probably what It's a good reason why no. Mac
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: McWilliams was active last week, did not play. It wouldn't
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: make sense for him to be the nickel this week.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: If the starter's rest, let him be the nickel. Drew Kennell,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: let him start at center or guard. He could play both,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: but he's really built to play center.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: They also have Michael Carter right who can do it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Who was the way for a personal issue last week,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: personal reasons, who was not with the team last week.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And then what you do is you could start Tanner McKee,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: who was active obviously did not play. Hurts is taking
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: all the red, all the all the playing time. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: then Sam Howe is also a former commander. It is
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: funny that he's on this team. It's I still believe
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that when McKee broke the finger, that's why they made
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the trade. They didn't know he'd be back so soon,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: because it was just kind of like, why are you're
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: adding a third string quarterback that had something to do
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: with it?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're maybe they're looking down the line.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Uh well yeah, well uh, house on the last year
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: was rockid deal. I'm pretty certain of that is he
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: But but though if they if they liked him and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: they traded McKee, it's a different reason.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: So I mean maybe they're looking at sure with the
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: future now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Aj Dillon healthy inactive last week. He's been a healthy
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: inactive pretty much the entire season.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Since October since he fumbled, uh in.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: The license then, yeah, which is interesting. Look, you can't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: afford backs active, so he could have a big role
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Uh, other guys who could who could play
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a lot? Now you know it's this is interesting when
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: we're talking about injuries and playing time because this week
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: gets kind of tied together. How much you think BG
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: would play on Sunday?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I think he would play a lot.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: How many STAPs do you think? Take a guess or percentage?
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Just give me percentage, say twenty to twenty to twenty.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Three, Okay, okay, Daris Cooper might start.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I think Darius Cooper would have it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I think I think he would have He'd be a
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: player to watch if you're looking for someone on the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: offensive side.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: The guys who would probably play a lot would be
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Sidney Brown, Jakorin Bennett. What a good opportunity to let
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: him start.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Get some good tape out there.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Exactly, Kamla our guy, Kim Latto a smile. Monding could
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: start because they start two inside backers. Brandon Johnson could
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: play nickel.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Or safety if they elevate him.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, Brett Toath would start. He would absolutely start. Boring
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Young would start. Kylon grantson Jenkins, As you said, is
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: one more elevation left, so they could make a decision
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: what who wants.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: But they also have Calkatara.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. How much it also comes down
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to how much twelve you're gonna play. Yeah, you gotta
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: have three. You gotta have at least two tight ends
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: up Calcutar somehow still the two over lat two.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: It's beyond But but here's the issue.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Because they also have to elevate Charlie Hewett from the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: practice squads.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: They need a lot.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't need to mention that he resigned that he
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: cleared waivers and resigned to the practice squat go ahead, yep.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So you start to look at it. They have Jake
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Major's on the practice squad. Who's the center slash guard?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: You have to elevate Charlie Hewlett. You might need another safety,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: which Andre Sam's out of elevations. Brandon Johnson has one
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: more left. If you need another corner who can also
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: play safety.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: It's really interesting.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: So I came up with this on Inside the Birds.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: We've come up with a lot of phrases. Jeff's just
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the big one I love is two things can actually
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: be true because people think you came out it has
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to be this or that. Yeah, there's no context. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I came up with the roster tango twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and then we did it like crazy with the COVID rules.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: When they created this, there was no elevations. There was
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: no such thing, you know, like that they have now.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So they came up with all sorts of ways you
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: could bring a guy up so you don't have to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: put him for waivers. So it's funny. And I've never
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: seen Howie be so aggressive with the practice squad that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: God could be cut on money. He's back on Tuesday.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But why are you doing it like you could? Sometimes
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you can't figure it out why he's doing it free? Hot?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, maybe so you're trying to get some
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: guys paid for the week and things like that. But
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's interesting they have a a sort
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: of a network of players that they want to keep
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: within that practice squad that they like in value and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: they want to continue to develop.
• 29:20
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  Speaker 2: dot com. All right, Andrew, So to me, no matter
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  Speaker 2: who the quarterback is, and this game will be at
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the link at four twenty five. I haven't look at
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  Speaker 2: the weather yet, which is rare for me. I mean,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: so what's the weather? I know I will look at
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  Speaker 2: that in a second. But stay aggressive, Patullo, not for
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: quarter or two quarters, for the entire game. Don't take
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the foot off the pedal. And to Syriani's credit, Andrew,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: he didn't deny this was an issue, okay, because we
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: all saw it and the numbers bear it out. Was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: terrible in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: This is what I said earlier. The communication between he
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Patoo's got to be better during the game. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to me, Andrew's stay aggressive.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have they have to stay aggressive. And I
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: think you want to see some of the younger players.
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  Speaker 3: And where they are in terms of their development, and
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: that would be Tanner McKee, will Shipley, who we've had
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: on this show, Cameron Lotsu, Mac McWilliams, who's my rookie
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: diary subject this season, there's a lot of players that
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to seeing play in this game
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: that have been putting in a lot of hard work
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes. But yes, Kevin Patula, stay aggressive, try
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to I mean try to learn from some of the
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: shortcomings that have surfaced throughout the season and try to
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: get that rectify going into the postseason.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And what I want to see from from whoever's a quarterback,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: if it hurts, what should be a surprise, you know what, man,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. If the way a lot
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: of teams do it for they call it it's like
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: a it's like a preseason tune up. You get him in,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you get him out for a quarter, like if you're
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: going to play him, you don't play for more in
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a quarter. But be aggressive whoever the quarterback is. If
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: it's m ckey, you know he's an aggressive thrower. But
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Pattilla's got a call the playoff game, no matter who
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he's got. Yeah, stay aggressive. The path protection it's mostly
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: been good this season. Know, the run blocking has been
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: downhill thumbs down, not very good. They got blown up
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: in the second half last week Andrew. Now, if it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the backups who are playing even so, they've got to
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: be better like this. I'm still kind of an all
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in a bad way. How bad this offensive line isn't
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: run blocking, It's just hard to believe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is as big of a game
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  Speaker 3: for Kevin Pittulo as it is for those playing in
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: this one because you're able to kind of work on
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: your comfortability. You're sequencing without a ton of pressure. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: mean there's always pressure each and every week. I'm not
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: trying to dismiss that, but you're able to kind of
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: fine tune things from his perspective going into the postseason.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I mean that's the way that I'm doing it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's get to the defense. So if the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: starters rest, who do you think who would this game
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: be big for? What would you look for to these
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: backups play? Who would you have your eye on? Because
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of them.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll give you some on both sides of
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the ball. Tanner McKee, Will Shipley. I would say a
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: toath at center because I think he's done a really
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: nice job when his number has been called this season.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Drew Kendall for those who want to see a young
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman play, I know I've gotten a lot of
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: questions about him and why he hasn't gotten some opportunities,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So he would be a player to keep an eye
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: on there. Darius Cooper, the wide receiver, is someone who
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I've had conversations with this season.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Rady.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I wrote a story about him.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: On Inside the Birds dot Com about how he's really
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: taken to the blocking aspect of his job.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Then on the defensive side, I would say.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Mac McWilliams, the rookie corner who I've taught, I talk
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: with every week on Inside the Birds for my Rookie Diary.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I would I would also look at Smile.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Mondon and Jeremiah Trotter Junior as two players that I
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: think could have a pretty big week there at linebacker.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: The guys that I'm looking for Istra Corn Bennett. Okay,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: this is an opportunity to get him to start. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: know it's been a rough go for him. He had
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the injury earlier this season, he had both shoulder problems
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: with the Raiders. It hasn't worked out at all like
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: they thought when they made the truth. Did you give
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: two draft picks for him or one?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I think it was just a one. I thought Thomas Hooker,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I thought it was just Thomas.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Just okay, I don't remember, but bottom line is they
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: gave Thomas Brooker.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was just a player for It's
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: funny because.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Earlier in the season, when Biroan Young wasn't playing, people
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: were like, man, I can't believe they gave a book
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: or he's starting for the Raiders, which is true. But
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: now nobody's talking about because Byron Young has been a start.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: It's been a really good player.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Buhi has been a nice player.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And I think when we look back on this season,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: those three games where Jayaln Carter wasn't there, Byron Young
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: had two and a half sacks, He played seventy four snaps,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: he had three quarterback hits.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: So I think he's been a nice piece of that
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: rotation and kind of.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Helped them ably navigate that time where they didn't have
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Jalen Carter.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So I honest to see Mac mcwahams is really built
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like a nickel who's an aggressive player. I'm interested to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: see what he can do because he's another guy down
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the road. Michael Carter's got an enormous contract for next year.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: He would have to take a major paycock to come back.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean just barely's played. Yeah, they cross training at
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: safety and nickel, but I would like to I would
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: like to say, well, also Michael Carter for this game.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But I want to see mac mcgoys because you and
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I saw this in training.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm excited he's had a.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Good training camp and whatever. We're not there a practice
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: in the regular season, So you don't play if they're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not happy with you where you look in practice, because
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they watch the tape and if they're not happy, you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: don't play.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: with special teams.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: He had an opportunity to be a gunner against the
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Buccaneers that he didn't fare particularly well in that area,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and he has.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: A slighter build. We've seen that in the past.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Eli Rix was a corner who didn't really factor in
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: on game day last season because he wasn't a factor
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: on special teams. And if you're a depth corner and
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: you're not helping them defensively, you have to be able
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to help in the third phase.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Here's another guy, and this is a guy everyone their
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: mother was excited about in the spring when they draft
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: him to the fourth round out of Nebraska. It's Ty Robinson. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: he's had some good snaps, he's flashed a little bit,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: but he barely plays. This is just a wonderful opportunity.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And they're gonna go against Washington starters if it goes
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: like we think it's going to go, and mostly backups
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: or the backups play the majority of the game. This
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: is a great opportunity for a guy like ty Robinson
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: who needs the reps. Who is you wouldn't call him
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a project, but he was far behind. Greg O Selt
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: told us because he had asked us, Andrew, what did
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: we know about Ty Robinson? We said, you know, flashes,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: but needs more workys, he needs way Because his preseason tape,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Greg said he's really far behind being ready to go.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And Greg liked his tape as well at college at Nebraska.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So this is a good opportunity here, Andrew for guys
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to get out there. You call it, I mean, we
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: could call keys of the game because it is the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: keys of the game. Is these guys that get playing.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, and absolutely he is a key to the game.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Adham, You hit the nail on the head because they're
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: gonna need these guys at some point. And you want
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: to see what they're able to do beyond preseason going
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: up against NFL caliber players, starters, you know, in some
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: regards there for Washington, Ty Robinson's a player that I
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: really want to see and we talked about him earlier.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Josh Usha is another player you should be highlighting in
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: this game because he's had some bright moments. He's been
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the fourth or fifth ed rusher, had a sack, had
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: another one against the Giants that was taken away off
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the board there where he wards to fumble. He's hungry,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: he's gonna want to put some good tape out there. Said,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: that's somebody that you should be keeping an eye on.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to get back to Tanner mckal I'll
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: tell you another reason why it's important. So twenty six
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: is the last year was contract, right, I felt all
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: along will not they will not trade unless to get
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: it first. There's there. They're gonna bet least a half
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a dozen teams that need to start in quarterback. Okay,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: this kid, you know it. I mean I remember when
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Will Shipley was sitting in the seat you're in Okay,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: when we interviewed him Eric right here at the Chickens
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and Boulevard. I said tell us about Tanner. McKinney smiled.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: He goes, you got to train a gip. You see
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it to what we see in practice. And I know
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: what that meant, because the Mormon missile as Jordan. Yeah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: so get great tape, the Giants Tape's gonna get more
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: recent tape. Get good tape. He's not gonna play Bailey.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: He's a quick processor, He's got a great arm. His
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: mobility Andrew is two years ago. I'm like, I thought
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: he was a statue. He moves better than you think.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he moves a little bit better than I think
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: we all thought.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: But he's far from Jaywen Hurts in that regard. But yes,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: he has a quick trigger. He processes quickly. I would
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: expect the passing game to have a little bit of life,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: depending on what the weather situation looks like. We don't
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: know yet, but I'm really interested to see what he's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: able to do with his expanded opportunity.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Tell us about that Darvis Cooper piece that you did
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: for Inside the Birds dot Com.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so with Darius.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: One thing that I liked, I pride myself on is
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: taking stock of different things in the locker room. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: wrote a little thing in my notebook about Cameron Lattu
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: having different personalized handshakes with different teammates, whether it was
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Jaywen Hurts, Grant Calcata, Keeley Ringo, and I asked different
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: players about the origins of that. So with Darius Cooper,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I noticed his blocking prowess, especially against the long run
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: that Saquon had in the Chargers game, and different things
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: like that being in on the push play where he
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: protects the edge. And this is a player who never
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: had to block anybody at Tarleton State because he was
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: their offense. So it's a whole different ballgame now when
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: you're asked to do that at the NFL level.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: And I think he's responded well.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: He credited pat Rick McDowell, who does some good things
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes in terms of player development.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: He was a former scout Byron Young. Also, that's not
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: how much he helps them.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: And if you watch Hard Knocks, if you pay attention
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: to the meeting rooms, the defensive line meeting rooms, he's
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: sitting in the front row. He credited him for helping
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: him with his development before and after practice, and then
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: now he says he doesn't have to do that as
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: much because he sort of has you know the base
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: level understanding.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Let's are Andrew de Checko from inside the Birds, Andrew Kip,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the people, what is your your's aide to CHECKO on
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: on on X Andrew and can't remember? Yeah, okay, I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: used the whole name.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Do you really did? There's all we won.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I guess that's fun now because eventually that at one
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: time they had that handle already taken. And I guess
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: that the guy it was idle for so long and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: then eventually he was available one day when I look
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: forward and now that I have.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: It, who knew? Who knew?
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: You?
• 40:49
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• 40:51
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• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were at Chicky and Pete's on Roosevelt Boulevard. Were here
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: till seven and Andrew and we'll talk about this, uh
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: right after the break, because I want to get into that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It's the pre we have the coordinators press conferences, which
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: is which is interesting because you know Patilo is going
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: to have to dress it. We'll talk about what he
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: talked about after this break. And Michael Clay, who's a
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: special teams coordinator, has done a really good job and
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio, who One of the things I love about
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Vick is most coaches rarely tell the truth like or
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: they give you a partial truth. Vic is the man.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: He's a truth teller man.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: You and I wonder that that not that they're not
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: that Howie or Jeffy could to tell them what to do,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: but or anyone or or or of course Sirianni who
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: technically works for but you asked him a question, he answered,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you have you have you got any on with this year?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Do you? Asked? Is there anyone you ask more to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of the of the of the coaches.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Uh, Vic and Michael Clay okay, okay, yeah, especially in
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: training camp. You know, you always get a lot of
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: really good stuff about younger players, how they're coming along
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: and things like that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: But Vic's always very candid. You can get a lot
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: of questions.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I know a Vic Vanjaio press conference because he he
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: answers so succinctly and you're able to kind of move on.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Well, he does go quick, but sometimes he gives a
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: better detail. So, by the way, what is your process
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: this week? Because this is week eighteen, the last week
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of the regular season, Eagles don't have a buye then
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: they'll be hosting a home game in the wildcard round.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: What's your process? What do you got going on this week?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: So tomorrow the Eagles have a walk through, so that
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: won't be open to the media. Nick Sirianni speaks at
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: eleven twenty. But this is a week where you want
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to try to you want to balance your coverage in
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: which you talk to some players who you believe are
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: going to be playing in this game, so you can
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: get you can talk to them a little bit more
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and kind of peeled back layers of the onion for
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: what they've been doing with behind the scenes and how
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: they're approaching this week. And then you also want to
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: try to get a sense of looking ahead about some
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: of those some of those starters and how they're approaching
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: that postseason run. So that'll be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday when
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: they have open locker room.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: And then of course, oh it's three days they've opened
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: locker room. Okay, okay, how long do you get in there?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: For? Forty five minutes?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And it's is it fifteen it's about twenty minutes or
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: half an hour after practice is done or whatever they
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: do that, Yeah, yeah, you're.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Right, it's probably about fifteen twenty minutes after.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: So the way it would work was when when Andy
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Reid was here, when I was like the only one
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: who went to the Friday practice. See Andy for one
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of the local reporters got to shut down because he
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: asked a player in the locker room about something he
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: saw in practice. But you're not allowed to do and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: he said, you can go to the full practice, but
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: you can't report on anything you see. I was fine
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: with it, man. I love going to practice as you do.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: So they made an offensive line change. He goes and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say who it was. It's the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: guy still covering the team maybe, but I just remember
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: when and when I guess dark boyko that the NPR
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: director told us we're done. You're done. You guys aren't
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: coming back in. You're not going to practice anymore other
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: then other than they only give back. Then it was
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes. It's the fifteen.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Now you get to watch, Well, it's about twenty five
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: on Thursday Wednesday, if it's a if it's a regular practice,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: it's about five to seven minutes, or if it's a
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: walk through, none and then Friday's about five minutes, so.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Then we got cut down to twenty and I was
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: just heartbroken because I learned so much by going to practice.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Because yes, I had a running joke when McNabb would
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: struggle on the Friday practice, almost like clockwork, he would
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: struggle in the game. I don't know why on the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: on the show that I do with John Hanson we
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: did for twenty years on Serio SIXEM because he would, Okay,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: give me the McNabb barometer, and I couldn't talk about
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: what I saw now, Oh, but I could talk about
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: what it just I don't think he looked great. I
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: don't think he was acting. I was always It wasn't
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: always like that, but more often not if he had
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: a bad Friday practice, which is the last of the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: week for a Friday game. And as you know, the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Friday practice is the shortest YEP Wednesday or Thursday. Every
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: team looks at it differently, but there's the install day
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is Wednesday Thursday. Then you find you go over what
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: you just installed. Then Friday is the final tune, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: then you've got the Saturday walkthrough.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: So I love practice. Man, if you really we pay attention,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: you can get a lot of value. You can get
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of value even out of those ten to
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: fifteen minutes if you really pay attention to certain details
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: and what details would those be. Taking stock of who's
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: out there, if you see you know, whether it's a
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: player who's working off to the side with the trainer,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: who is in line to potentially be coming back, if
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: there's player like I look at Thursday practice, right and
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: every Thursday practice you see Christian Parker working with Quinya
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Mitchell and Adory Jackson, and then one week Brandon Johnson
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: was with them. Now it didn't end up that he
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: was elevated, but it was interesting to note.
• 45:36
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  Speaker 2: Chris Hermer. Here write at Chicken Pete set. Who's about
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Boulevard next week? We're in Are we in Warrington next week?
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: It will be you, We know for sure it'll be yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Se who else is gonna be hosting with you?
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: We're working out the details.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So all right, Andrew, let's talk about it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: It's funny do they two corners just through zoom?
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Is out? How they do it? Or do they do
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it in the auditorium.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: The Monday day after game is video conference, and then
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: every Tuesday is coordinators are in the auditorium.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but that's all you get and then you go.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I mean you just write about you go home after that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the in these truncated schedules that we've
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: been having on the shortened weeks, they they'll have you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: practice and then.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Locker room later. But other than that, Yeah, that's about it.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Let's get to Kevin Petula. So he knew he's going
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to be asked right off within the first two questions
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: what happened the second half? He's answered like he he
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't more oft than not, like Fander will answer the
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: question directly. He never shies away. He never sugarcoats anything.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I think too often Petula talks in circles. No. I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: did find interesting though he didn't Mike Andrew that he
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that they're still going through that, which typically on Tuesday
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the players don't come into Wednesday. I understand that, but
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: they're still trying to figure out what's going on. What
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: happened in the second halfter that that is approximate, he
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: said that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it's also fair to be concerned
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: that you were now at week eighteen and you're still
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: you're still trying to figure fair.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I think it's scary you're still trying.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: That you're still trying to figure out where they had
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: to overcome these sticking points. So I mean, you like
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: the transparency there, but it's it's time to find answers
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: because look, I mean, the lights get a little bit
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: brighter in a couple of weeks here.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: This offensive line. Andrew, we got to talk about it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I have to. I'd probably asked you this before. We
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: have to bring it up again. What did you see
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: in training camp for this offensive line?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I I didn't.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have foreseen what we saw right now, to
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: put it that way, I mean I thought.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: That I thought you would. I wasn't sure if you
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: said that.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Thought I thought my lot. I had a good camp.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Tyler Steen was a player that was widely lauded from
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: all the off lineman from Jeff Stotland, Cam Jurgens didn't
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: work as much because he was coming off the back surgery.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Just heard him.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Landon had a good camp when he was out there.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it's kind of hard to envision
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: how that's going to Translatet. You get on the playing
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: field and the games are are going on, but they
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: haven't played the standard and I think a lot of
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: that has to do with being banged up. Look, they
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: played twenty one games last season. They played into February.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: You have OTAs you're right back at it for someone
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: like Landon Dickerson and Cam Jurgens. They had offseason procedures
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: were they weren't So yeah, I mean, and you look
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: at the grueling nature of the way that the Eagles
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: played offense last year. That was a lot that was
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: placed on the shoulders of those offensive linemen and not
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of recovery times. So I think we probably
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: should have We probably should have looked a little bit
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: deeper into that as a collective. As a collective going
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: into it, it maybe not looked at Saquan and how
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: he was going to respond as much as we all did.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: How much do you think Saquon because he's been good
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the last like five weeks, But do you think he
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: tried was trying too hard earlier this season when it
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: was really bad.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I do, And I think the as evidenced by his
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: answers in recent weeks talking about dirty yards and angry
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: runs and if it's blocked for three, get three, if
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: it's block for four, get four, don't try to hit
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: that home run. And you may remember this Adam coming
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: into the draft, he acknowledged that the one of the
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you know the mo, his MO was that he was
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: too home run reliant, and he kind of bristled at
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: that notion.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: But I mean, you see it sometimes.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: But when you're so accustomed to running through these truck
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: size holes last season and they're not there, and you
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: want to make an impact and you're trying to hit
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: the home run, sometimes you're pressing. You're doing a little
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: bit too much.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: What I'd like to see in this game is whether
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the starters play or not. If Barkley's playing a cameo
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: role for a quarter again, I'd be very suppresed to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: be played. But I want to see Tank Bigsby. We
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: see this every week. Can he get more touches? Can
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: he get more carries? Like last week with the perfect opportunity,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: like you can't run. It was like running into a wall.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: They could not do anything well at all in the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: second half. Bigsby are two carries? Why did you try
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: something else. I just that's the part about coaching it,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: not just this group and any read used to frustrate me,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: like and I understood analytically why you throw the ball
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: early and run when Joe Banner told me that when
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: we worked together at ESPN, because he showed me the charts,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, if you go back to the sixties,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: if you throw it more than you run it, you're
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: gonna win, like over sixty percent of the time. It's
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: just it can't really be challenged. It's a fact. But
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: when the quarterbacks struggling or you can't move the football,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: try something else. Well, here's something else here. You're running
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: to a wall. You talked about it early in the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: show when I asked you about it. Try somebody else.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Because Bigsby, by the way, he tries to break everything
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: outside every usually right everything.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they do the occasional draw play on
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: third and long to Shipley. But yeah, you gotta find
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: you gotta mix it up. And I am curious to
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: see whether it's you know, AJ Dillon will Shipley. I
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: thyre able to kind of generate something from an offensive
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: standpoint in terms of the running game, because that's something
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: that we haven't seen with consistency at any point this season,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: and there's gonna be different players and they're blocking for them.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I understand that, but I am curious to see if
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: they're able to kind of build off of anything.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Let's get to Victor Fangio from nearby what town was
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: it again? Edge, K.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: That's gonna bother me. He went to East Strousburg and
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: coach for the Stars in nineteen eighty five.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna bother me because I thought I knew
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: everything about but.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: He's near Wilfsburg. But anyway, so Fangio today, your thoughts,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: let's talk about that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Vic Fangio is.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Always very candid, and I think talking about Jahat Campbell
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: for example, and how he performed, he mentioned that he
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: thought he did pretty well and that they're gonna that
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: they may need jah Hot Campbell right at some point
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: down down the line.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Here, and.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: He mentioned what else was he Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: looked well. I mean, look at the snaps that he played.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I think he played seventy six percent of the snaps.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: First game back after three games, and he mentioned the
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: impact that he had. I just really appreciate and the tackling, yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: keep going.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: He also talked about how how this team tackles and
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: plays football, and he kind of equated it in a
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: different way to the Eagles defensive last season, because if
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: you remember, going into this year, he said, oh, look,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: we're going to be asking a lot of a lot
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: of different players, and he went down the list and
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: it had yet to be determined, and he said, yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: this year was the same thing. We needed other players
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: to step up and they did so. I think he
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: kind of drew a parallel to that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he discussed how well they've tackled this season, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: you have to remember he's from Dunmore Pencil denmar Denmoark Thanky. Yes, yes,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: but the tackling andrew for this team other than the
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Chicago which was in as obviously they gave up. They
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: gave up two hundred yard rushers in the first half
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: against the Bears, but overall their tackling is really good.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: And that that was less about tackling. That was not
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: even being in the gaps. That was just bad gap control.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but you've got Bobby King, the linebacker's coach.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I know you you've written about him before, Who's fantastic
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: block destruction?
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: You that's what he talks about, a lot.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Block destruction, which is really good. And then Clint Hurt.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: But I remember Jeff and I talked about when they
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: hired him, because we did, we did a background check,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: we talked to people work with him, and you see
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it on Hard Knocks by the way. He coaches hard.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, really hard. Yeah. And when you I mean
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: you got to coach. I think it takes after his boss, Vick,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: because there are no nonsense.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: All of those guys are no nonsense. You look at
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Christian Parker, Bobby King, Clint Hurt.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I can't say enough good things about the assistant coaches
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: that Vic has filled out his coaching staff with and
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: the Eagles have because they they are rooted in teaching
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the fundamentals, the whys behind, the why behind. They ask
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: him to do certain things and I think you can
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: see the development across the board.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: What does this team do, Andrew, as we get ready
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: to close the show, what do they have to do
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: to get back to the Super Bowl.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I think they need to re establish the running game.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I think and I understand that this late in the game,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: it's not likely that they're going to, but they have
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: to be able to. I mean, Saquon should be able
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: to get eighty yards a game, eighty five yards a game.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: For the Eagles to be efficient offensively, they have to
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: be able to type into that running game, whether that's
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: implementing Tank bigsby a little bit more or the offensive
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: line maybe optimizing this week if they don't have to
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: play as much. But that's going to be the key,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: as well as protecting the football and avoiding costly turnovers.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: To me, it's the offensive coordinator being aggressive. Don't pull
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: your foot off the gas pedal. He clearly did, Okay,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Sirianni admitted it without he didn't have to say it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: He talked about it in his own way after the
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Buffalo game. The offensive line, somehow, somehow they got to
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: get their energy back. I'd have no idea what's going
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: on here in the run game. I agree with you,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell. And try it's hard to tell. They
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: look fine, they look and plus And you made a
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: good point. Jurgens Reh having missed the entire offseason, Dickerson
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: missing the offseason, they clearly don't look right, and that's
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: something to look at. So hopefully they're going to get
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: the rest and close out games. Yes, yeah, that's another
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: thing we could put. Next week, we'll do our top ten.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So that was Andrew de Checo. I'm Adam Kaplan. You're
• 56:25
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• 56:35
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• 56:39
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