Latest / AFR Saints / New Orleans Saints One Of Two Remaining Head Coach Openings | How Raiders, Jaguars Hires Impact Saints?

Transcript

New Orleans Saints One Of Two Remaining Head Coach Openings | How Raiders, Jaguars Hires Impact Saints? · AFR Saints

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: AFR on Demand is brought to you by Breck Golf.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Try Beaver Creek today, just twenty minutes from downtown Baton
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Rouge in the Zachary area. They've got a PGA toward
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: driving range, a short game practice area thirty to forty
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: yard practice shots. It's a great place to chip and
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: putt and practice if you don't have time for a
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: full round. Book your tea time today golf dot Breck
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: dot org. Golf dot Breck dot org. All right. Two
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: more dominoes have fallen in the NFL head coaching carousel,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: with the Raiders and the Jaguars finding their next head coaches.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: The splash hire today certainly was Pete Carroll going to
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. We know Pete Carroll's history, of course, early
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: in his career with the Jets and the Patriots, and
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: then landing at USC with that amazing run, finding his
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: way back to the NFL with the Seahawks winning a
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, playing for another after a long tenure there,
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: I was let go after last season, out of coaching
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: this year, now back in the game with the Raiders.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: It is a bit surprising Pete Carroll at seventy foty
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: years old the oldest head coach in NFL history now
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: at this point, but fair to say maybe a youthful
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: seventy four, a guy that's always had a lot of energy.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, I know, we focus, we get hyper
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: focus sometimes on the age of coaches in particularly the NFL.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Is a big deal with the Belichick conversation a year ago,
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: because he's seventy three. And I don't know, Man, when
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: are NFL head coaching hires ever thought to be long
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: term hires? In your head, you may think that's what
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: you hope to achieve, someone that will be there for
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, like Sean Payton was in New Orleans, or
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: like when Mike Tomlin has done better part of two
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: decades in Pittsburgh, or John Harbaugh and Baltimore. That's just
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: not the reality. I mean, the Raiders hired to coach
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: a year ago the last and one season. So the
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Saints hired Dennis Allen. He didn't make it through year three.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: So on one hand, I look at it and I go, man, yes,
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: seventy four years old. At the other on the other hand,
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: I go, do you really think you're hiring any coach
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: to be there for a decade? It's just not what
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: it is in the NFL. I mean, Andy Reid in
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: Kansas City now is the outlier. Sure, you go keep
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: churning out Super Bowls at Patrick Mahomes. You got a
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: job as long as you want it. That just ain't
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: the norm for the thirty one other teams in the NFL.
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: So if the Raiders hire Pete Carroll and he establishes
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit of culture, improves the roster. A guy
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: that's a known culture roster builder that can get you
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: to a more competitive championship level, all right, and then
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: in three years maybe hands it off to somebody else.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: The other does directly or indirectly, I should say, impact
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: the Saints. The Jaguars have hired Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: spent this year. What an interesting ride for Liam Cohen
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: from Kentucky to the Rams, back to Kentucky, then to
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the OC, and then now
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: as the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course,
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: it's notable because the Saints are in the same division
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: as the Bucks, and so for the second consecutive year
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: now the Bucks will lose their OC. Dave canallys a
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: year Ago becomes the head coach at Carolina. Now Liam
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Cohen becomes the head coach with the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean,
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: I guess there's something to be said. Man, if you
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs and you maximize Baker Mayfield, dog,
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be a head coach. So Dave Canalys a
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: year ago, and it seemed to work. Bryce Young later
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: in the season was starting to come into his own
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: looking more like a guy that was worthy of a
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: first round pick. In the last month of this season.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see what Liam Cohen can do in Jacksonville. Certainly
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: his task is going to be go maximize Trevor Lawrence,
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: because not only do they take him number one overall,
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: of course, they've already invested in a second contract in
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. But this is less about Liam Cohen, the
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: result of the Bucks, or what it means for Jacksonville.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: It's all about how it relates to New Orleans. So
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: the news worthy item for the Saints here on Friday
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: is that the Saints have now conducted their second in
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: person interview. Last week, Darren Rizzy had his in person
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: interview with New Orleans. That was something they were allowed
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: to do because he was already an in house candidate,
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: So no big deal there with how without that played out,
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: So you were able to interview Darren Rizzy in person
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: last week. Now you've interviewed Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Weavers an interesting guy, whose who played in the NFL.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: He's forty four years old. He's been a career assistant,
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: but looking for that first head coaching opportunity now in
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: his mid forties. Interviewed for a couple of the vacancies
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: a year ago, including Atlanta. So I don't believe Anthony
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: Weaver is going to get the job. I don't think
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: he's a guy add or near the top of the
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: Saints wish list. What we also know is that Mike
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Kafka is set to interview this weekend in person. That's
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: the Giants offensive coordinator, and then next week Mike McCarthy
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: is supposed to interview in person with the New Orleans
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: Saints as well. And if I have one big takeaway
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: from the hires that have already been made, it's that
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: the the hires that have been made have allowed the
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: Saints to stay and play with their top targets now
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: the The exception, of course, is is Aaron Glenn. But
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: and who knows if the Saints actually coveted Ben Johnson.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: I would assume they did, because everyone did. He was
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: the top guy in this class that everybody wanted, and
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: he landed in Chicago. But you know, we looked at
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: the hires that we had already been made up until
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: this point, with Mike Vrabel going to New England. That's
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: probably a guy the Saints. It is a guy the
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: Saints wanted to talk to, but he took a better job.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: We mentioned Ben Johnson of course landing at Chicago, and
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: then Aaron Glenn is the other one that the Saints wanted,
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: but he who is the Saints reported top target, he
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: lands in New York with the Jets. Well after that,
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: you're starting to see all these coaching dominoes fall, with
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Jaguars now having their coaches, and
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: so you look at New Orleans and you go, all right, well,
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Dallas still has to hire a coach. But it doesn't
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: seem as though the Saints and the Cowboys are fishing
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: in the same waters. So at this point, while Aaron
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: Glenn might have been your top target and he took
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: a deal with the Jets. At this point, the Saints
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: kind of have their pick. And I'll reiterate the thing
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: that I think is most important for New Orleans right now,
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: and it is not to rush to a decision, because
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: whoever you want to hire at this point, you have time.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: You have time. The league year, yes, this coming week
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: is the Senior Bowl. The league year doesn't start until March.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: The draft isn't until April. You have time. I'm not
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: saying you're waiting until March to hire a coach. What
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: I am saying is there's no reason to rush a
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: coach to the podium right now. If you want to
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: talk to Joe Brady, but the Bills upset Kansas City
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: this week, you can wait two more weeks until KC
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: or until Buffalo excuse me, plays in the Super Bowl
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: to talk to Joe Brady. Because the reality is and
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: nobody else hiring Mike McCarthy. I don't suspect Mike Kafka
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: or Anthony Weaver are getting hired by the Dallas Cowboys.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: So when you look at it, you kind of at
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: this point have your pick of who's left in this
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: game of musical chairs. You're I mean, yes, Dallas is
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: out there as well, but you have really your your
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: pick of who's out there right now. So I the
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: one thing that I really want for New Orleans to
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: do is take your time. If you want to wait
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: and talk to Cliff Kingsbury. If Washington wins this weekend
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: and goes to the Super Bowl, wait another two weeks.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: There is no reason to rush. You want to hire
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Darren Rizzy, you can hire Darren Rizzy because if you don't,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: somebody's gonna hire him to be a s best teams coach.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. You want to hire Mike McCarthy, great,
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Wait two weeks. Mike McCarthy ain't going nowhere. He's just chilling.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: But I will say the thing that I find perhaps
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: the most appealing, and this is something that is starting
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: to resonate a bit more with me. I think what
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: the Raiders did this year, meaning in the past calendar year,
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: is actually something that the Saints could replicate. The Raiders
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: hired Antonio Pierce, and Pierce lasted one year. And I'm
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: not saying you hire a coach with the intent of
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: in being a one year guy. And we all want
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: that answer. But part of the reason the Saints didn't
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: make the cut for their top guy and Aaron Glenn,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: and part of the reason they never got a glance
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: from Ben Johnson is a Saints aren't a good job.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: It's not a good job right now. We've talked about it,
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: a ton, no franchise, quarterback, aging, roster, awful cap situation,
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: all the stuff. Well, Scott Shanley tweeted this on Thursday,
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: and it was a quote tweet of a pff thing
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: about future salary cap space. And in twenty twenty five,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: as we know, the Saints currently are fifty two million
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: over the cap, but as Shanley points out, in twenty
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: six you go sixty million under the cap, and in
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven you go two hundred and twenty one
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: million under the cap. As a lot of the now, look,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: that's gonna change, right because you're gonna sign free agents.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to restructure deals this year, which is
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: gonna kick money into future years. But the point is
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: your cap situation twelve months from now and twenty four
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: months from now can, if you're responsible, completely shift to
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: where you have money to spend. You can get younger,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: provided you do well in the draft, and you find
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: starting players in the draft, and of course the salary
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: cap will continue to rise. So a year from now
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: you are a much more desirable job than you are today.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe there's nothing wrong with retaining Darren Rizzy
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: for a year. Cut Derek Carr. Spread that money out
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: over the next two years after this one. Bring in
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: an inexpensive veteran, Bring in Jacoby Brissett, bring in Jimmy
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: g Let them battle it out with Rattler and Hater.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: See how that goes. You're not going to be good anyway,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: So you take it on the chin. You win four
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: or five games, you're picking in the top five of
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: the draft, and next year, when you have a deep
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: quarterback draft class and money to spend in free agency
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: and a top five pick, then maybe you go get
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: the guy that is your guy. Now, I know that
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: is counter to the way the Saints have operated. They
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: want tenure and they want stability. That's what they've been
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: for twenty years. But look where it's gotten you. Now
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: you're in a terrible situation. I think the worst thing
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: the Saints can do is Russia higher and remain all
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: in the best thing they could do is acknowledge where
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: you are instead of trying to fight your way out
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: of this box that you're in that you're not getting
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: out of. Like you're full on David Blaine Man. You're
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: in a straight jacket with Shane's and everything, and you're
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: in a box and you don't have a key, like
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: you're stuck. It's going to suck in twenty twenty five.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: It is going to suck. There is no way out
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: of that. There is no like you've got to accept
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: there is no way out of this. Derek Carr isn't
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden gonna come back next year and
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. Cam Jordan a't gonna drink
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: from the fountain of youth, like You're not gonna be
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: awesome next year. You're not. There's no Jaden Daniels waiting
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: to save you. That's not there. You're not going from
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: a four win team you draft Jayden and Daniels. You're
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: in the conference championship game. It doesn't exist for these Saints.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Acknowledge that and play the long game, which you should
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: have done two years ago, but you just kept hammering away,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: trying to dig yourself out of that hole. And all
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: you did was dig deeper. So be patient, play the
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: long game for the betterment of the franchise. For the
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: love of God, don't rush someone up to a podium
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: because you feel like you have to hurry and make
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: a higher. All you have now is time because you're
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: the only game in town. You and Dallas aren't. Who
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: knows what Jerry Jones is going to do, but you
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: in Dallas aren't competing for the same candidates right now.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: So take your time, interview all your candidates, and make
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: a higher when you're ready, make the best hire based
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: on what's going to be the best long term solution
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: for this organization.