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How Many Teams Can Make the Final 4? Adam Emmenecker talks MVC Hoops · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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  Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network back at it here for the
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  next block of six hours. Thanks for starting with myself,
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  Ken Miller, my partner Trent Condon.
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  Miller and Condon with you until 2O clock.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program.
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  At the bottom of the hour, Doko presents our weekly conversation
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  Player of the Year. He will join us.
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  We'll talk about Drake and you and I and the weeks that they've
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  had him. Really looking forward to it
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  this week after a couple of weeks that's not so much but
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  David Icolt will join us. Look forward to catching up with
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  David Icolt. I was football scheduled gets
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  released later on here this afternoon, so we'll speculate on
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  that a little bit. Do some women's hoop, do some
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  men's hoops. With David Eichold coming up at
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  the 1:00 and then Frank Schwab, who covers the NFL for
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  yahoosports.com. I wanted to reach out to him
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  this week as next week he will be one of the many media members
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  that are heading West to San Francisco.
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  I think it's in a Convention Center where it was, I don't
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  remember the exact name of the building, but the media row in
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  San Francisco for Super Bowl 60. So we're going to get Frank
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  before it gets hectic in his world.
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  We'll do that at 1:30, Trent. We'll make some picks, a really
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  nice Big 10 game. Big 12 in the focus last night.
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  Big 10 tonight with undefeated Nebraska and Michigan.
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  They're going to collide. And that number keeps getting
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  bigger and bigger and bigger. It's 11 1/2 now.
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  Trendy. Good afternoon.
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  How are you? Little post vacation cold
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  setting in. Oh no.
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  Yeah, too many. You hit.
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  Those a lot. Yeah, too many pineapple
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  daiquiris. Probably a little too much fun
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  was. Your drink of choice.
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  When I was having something fruity, yeah, that was the one
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  out by the pool. Or we're just I was just hanging
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  at the pool. At the beach, yeah, all over the
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  place. And yeah, that was that was the
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  drink of choice. So probably just a few too many
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  of those got that air conditioning going after a day
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  of sun and starting to settle it a little bit.
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  Wife had the same thing days ago and and now it's trickled over.
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  So what? Were the are they in the 80s?
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  Is that what the temperatures 70s?
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  70s Yeah. In fact, I mentioned our friends
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  all departed on Wednesday and we had Thursday and Friday
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  together. And those were the two nicest
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  days was Thursday and Friday. But yeah, I mean, it wasn't hot
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  by any means. There was never anything like
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  that. Like you get in the pool, it's
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  chilly. You get into the ocean, it was
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  cold. But it was.
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  Yeah, it was good. It's January and and that even
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  down that far South, it is still you can definitely feel it, but.
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  How long a plane ride from Houston?
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  Because that's where you flew through.
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  Correct, like 2 hours. Well, still another couple
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  hours. Yep.
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  All right. We didn't realize that.
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  Go all the way through the Gulf and then over on the far side of
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  the peninsula. And planes were full.
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  Yeah, absolutely, full there, full back.
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  And I was a little bit surprised by that too.
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  Even Houston, Des Moines on a Friday night, that thing was
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  packed coming back home. But good travel, we're lucky
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  certainly with the weather. And I was talking to people just
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  randomly. I was wearing a Hawkeye hat
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  randomly one day and there was a couple from Waverly that were
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  they'd already been rerouted. They were also leaving on Friday
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  to Charlotte. And I said, have you seen the
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  forecast for Charlotte? No good.
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  Was it good? Don't know what they made their
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  way. Backed away from?
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  I'm guessing they didn't. Yeah, it's going to be a tough
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  one. Are still in route Yeah,
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  absolutely. Because there there were parts
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  of the country just got hammered me in Oxford, Ms. Did you see
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  the ice? Yes.
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  Oh, yeah. Macro.
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  They can't deal with that. No, I mean, what is it?
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  Atlanta had four ice plows. Somebody had one that yes, there
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  was, I think somewhere in the Carolinas maybe.
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  Might have been yeah, had one had one.
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  Jesus, I also saw a picture of our video of 2 snow blows and
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  one of the snow plows in the southern.
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  They're trying to get out of their parking lot.
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  They ran into each other. Nice.
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  Probably not a whole lot of time behind the wheel of those big
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  rigs for the people doubted that area a lot of.
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  Experience. Let's talk about the Big 12
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  basketball game last night because my God, it was
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  entertaining. And yes, the refs did inject
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  themselves into the game. We're kind of glad they did
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  because it's certainly, I didn't think once we got to the final,
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  what was the final immediate time out?
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  Was it a 12 point lead at that time, 12 or whatever it was?
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  I thought, you know what, this isn't going to end well.
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  They just couldn't get over the hump how how many times it felt
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  like, man, that three's big and there's the answer and it's only
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  10 they got. They had a little run here.
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  They're still down 11, right? I don't know how many times
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  during the second-half. It just the feeling that BYU was
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  a lot closer than they were until the final moment.
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  What did the game go off at? What did it tip at?
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  It was 1 1/2 when we got off the air yesterday.
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  Is that where it stayed? Let me see.
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  Here because when it when it opened, I think it was about
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  that number. Was it 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 when it?
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  Opened 1 1/2. Well, 2 1/2 was the number when
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  it opened yesterday. At the end of the show was 1 1/2
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  across the board and it closed according to at least this one
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  app that I look at closed at 1 1/2.
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  So that's how it ended up at that spot.
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  Told you I grabbed the Bunny line.
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  I thought there at the end I had a glimmer, but regardless of
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  that, it shows you BYU when they shoot the ball well.
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  But that's not a team built for a deep run.
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  I don't think it is either Trenton, I was going to get to
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  that because we I just went through an exercise.
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  Scott Nah came in here when he was all fired up about the final
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  four and he he asked I'm I'm going to same ask the same
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  question to you. We'll do that in a second.
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  But the the BYU, the makeup of this BYU team, obviously Debance
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  is a starter. He's so good.
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  So I was just. Springing he is.
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  I love this game. I love this game.
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  I like Keith's game. He and he's not overly tall by
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  any means. I think he's 6869, but he
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  disrupts things down low. Saunders can shoot the
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  basketball, but I was more impressed by Arizona every time
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  I watch this team. And you know what?
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  It's not Koi Pete. It's not, It's not.
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  We learned him the first week and a half of the season.
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  Because of the impact he had as he debuted.
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  It's that. Back court it is.
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  Bradley and Bury, they're unbelievable.
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  They are so good. And and the big German, yes,
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  Karchnikov, he's a good player. Yes, he's a smart player.
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  He understands exactly what they're doing that backward.
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  Or is he a well, whatever. I know this is.
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  German, yeah. BYU scored 83 points.
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  That was also a flirty at the end.
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  I'd sent you a text and of course, as soon as I sent it,
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  here comes this is BYU. But it was just about that
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  Arizona defense. Yeah, they gave up 83 last
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  night. That is 3 point variance.
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  That's the team hitting 13 three pointers.
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  This defense is, I think, what differentiates them for me, what
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  they absolute. Threat to win it all.
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  I do too. I think that they have the
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  pieces to do it. Tommy Lloyd incredulous there at
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  the end. But we talk about this often and
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  it's just program DNA. And when you think of Arizona
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  basketball, Oh yeah, Won the title with Miles Simon and
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  company. But for the most part, Arizona,
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  you talk about seating and falling short of expectation
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  most years, that might be a program that, and certainly in
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  the first handful of teams that you talk about in that realm, it
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  was Purdue for the longest time until they finally got to a
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  Final Four in national champion, Gonzaga, absolutely another one
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  of them. And Arizona, historically, that
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  is a program that does not live up to the building, but that's a
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  different team. You can play that.
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  There is just something about college sports, though, that I
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  think that always lingers. Always lingers in my well.
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  Purdue for sure. I mean, I I'll never get past
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  Purdue. Yeah, because it seems like
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  they're they they fall when they shouldn't year after year.
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  And until they quit doing that, I mean, you can't go keep going
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  back to the well, I say that as I bet the Chargers every
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  freaking year. Well, and even Tommy Lloyd, I
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  mean this is his fifth year on the job.
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  During that time they have been a one seed lost in the Sweet 16,
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  A2 seed lost in the Sweet 16, a two seed lost in the Sweet 16.
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  Last year, a four seed got where they were supposed to and lost
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  in the Sweet 16. That's going to stick in my mind
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  too. With Arizona, I got to see it
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  from Tommy Lloyd. I do too, but I think this I
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  think. He's got the.
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  Chance I really do this is a very nice and BYU is a good team
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  in their own right. So let's play this exercise.
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  All right, And this is how many teams can make the Final Four.
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  How many? Results.
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  Only four can, yes, right. But I think you can make a case
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  for at least 10 or. 12 Oh, I think the number is a lot deeper
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  than that. Do you to make a final four?
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  To make a final four. So let let's start.
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  Let's start in the ACC Duke. Start in the ACC, all right,
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  Duke? Yes.
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  Clemson. Yes, with the right draw I like.
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  I again, haven't seen a ton of them lately, but yes.
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  Virginia. Yeah, I know you like Virginia.
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  Virginia. Miami.
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  No, I don't think so either. Let's let's go to the big. 12 No
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  North Carolina. Not for me.
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  You like them? I like them now.
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  I like what I saw Saturday against Virginia.
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  Coming back and getting that win at Virginia, I thought that.
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  Was so do you think Virginia's a cinch Final Four?
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  Maybe you do want to use North Carolina.
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  I don't. I would put them in the grill.
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  I would put them above Clemson. How about this?
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  Three out of the ACC. 3 1/2. Three and a half, 3 1/2.
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  All right, here, let's do the Have you got your pen or you
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  know what I do? Let me write this down.
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  I'll do the math this time. All right. 3.5 Arizona.
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  Arizona, yes. Texas Tech, of course.
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  Houston. Yes, Kansas.
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  Yes, Iowa State. Yes.
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  BYU. No.
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  You don't think so? I don't think they can get to a
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  final four, OK. I think the three-point variance
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  that is the cross off for me if, if I'm gonna cross off one of
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  the top six and the gap between the top 6 and everybody else in
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  this league we know is significant, that would be the
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  team that I would cross off. That's fine, I'll go along with.
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  You same same kind of thing with BYU, can talk to that historical
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  context. They've had some good teams and
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  they've fallen, I think. This is a good.
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  Team that I'm I'm right there with you Big East.
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  The difference, though, is they haven't had a number one draft
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  pick like AJ Panther. Yeah, and maybe that maybe
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  that's even silly for me to even cross them out out of the group
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  because. Of the player Big East Yukon,
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  yes, Saint John's No, stop it, you've got yeah, I'm.
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  With you, Villanova, No, I like them, but no, I'd like them to
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  be a six seed and pull an upset against a three.
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  I could. See that?
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  Yeah, I could see. That, but then to win two more
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  games after that, now no. No, no, no.
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  Big 10 Nebraska. No, I'm with you.
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  Michigan. Yes, Michigan State.
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  Yes. Illinois, yes.
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  Or do yes. Four Anybody else?
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  You like Wisconsin? No.
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  I don't either. Too inconsistent, I think, for
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  the Badger. I mean, what we saw Sunday
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  against USC, yeah, just can't have that.
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  Yeah. The rest of the group, no, I
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  think. What did we get to 4?
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  We got to four, so right now we're at 12 1/2. 12 1/2 OK.
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  SEC Yes. Texas A&M, No.
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  I'm with you. Arkansas.
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  No, I said no. Florida.
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  Yes. Kentucky.
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  No one. Vanderbilt.
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  Not now. Probably not.
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  I don't think so. The one that I'd also throw in
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  the mix is Tennessee, really. And I know Rick Barnes obviously
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  has had his set of of issues come March Madness, but they're.
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  Usually tough team though. They're incredibly tough.
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  They're going to be 1. And a half to even it out.
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  I I think so, yeah. I think it's 1 1/2.
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  Yeah. That's that's fair.
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  I don't agree with on your on your point fives, but we'll do
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  that for this exercise. 1 1/2 a Gonzaga.
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  Yeah, yeah, right. So right now we have 15.
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  OK. 15 teams can make it to the final.
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  Four. No, you're you're.
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  You're missing a major one. Well, hang on a second.
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  You're missing a huge one. What?
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  Conference. From the Atlantic 10, they're
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  just down the road. From us, Oh no, no, no.
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  Slew No. Really.
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  Oh yeah. You think that they're going to
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  get to the you think that this is the, that they're the
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  Cinderella this year. They absolutely can be.
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  They're they haven't lost, have they?
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  They lost once to Stanford, did they?
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  Yep. Back on the neutral back in
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  November. OK, but they're 19 and one Josh
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  shirts. We saw what he did at Indiana
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  State. Yeah, he can coach.
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  And I also want to take you back to something that got a little
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  bit of play here, certainly on our airwaves of the secret
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  scrimmage that wasn't very secret, where Iowa got throttled
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  by Saint Louis. Oh, I forgot about that.
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  And at that time, wagering. And that was a secret scrimmage
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  for some, for whatever reason. I put in a little wager for them
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  to win the E10. They're a lake plus 375,
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  something like that. That seems home free.
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  I feel in really good shape, really good shape with that one.
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  The Saint Louis team, though, but a Final Four, it's got to be
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  the right path. But they have an opportunity.
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  They remind me a lot of the UNI team that beat Kansas in the 8-9
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  game. But of the we used 15, so can
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  they be 10 of the 15 teams we mentioned?
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  Probably not. I mean this, they would be on
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  the lower lowest end of this. I think we just have to mention
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  them at minimum, OK. I think they're playing that
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  well. I saw them Friday night at the
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  airport when they were played, played St.
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  Bot Adventure. So that that probably also
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  lingers with me a little bit. But I think that number's fair.
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  What did you come up with in terms of?
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  Numbers, we're almost the same for the most part.
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  Yeah, there were, There was. I think your point fives your
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  halves. Yeah, I didn't include them and
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  I and I certainly don't have St. the Billikens, but I don't know.
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  It's it's a fun exercise. It's it's it's so deep college
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  basketball this year. It's so much fun.
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  Now we never would have had Florida Atlantic Nope or San
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  Diego State. Nope.
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  Or programs like that point and that's maybe a reason.
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  Maybe that's why you're on them. Yeah.
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  Then I want to dig a little bit deeper.
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  But then we also go to a year ago, we saw Ben Majors starting
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  to dry up. And if that's going to continue,
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  then it just becomes, like you said, the power conference only.
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  So of that group, I'm trying to find the best price that is out
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  there of the teams that we mentioned to get to a Final
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  four, out of the teams that we said yes can get there.
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  Tennessee 15 to one, Yeah. See, I'm not, I'm not with you
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  on Tennessee. That was one of your halves.
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  North Carolina, 16 to one. Yeah.
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  OK. Virginia 12:50.
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  Yeah. Alabama 12:50.
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  We didn't even put Alabama. We did not.
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  We did not. Texas Tech plus 850, That's kind
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  of the best price you're looking at, plus 850 for BYU, Vandy and
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  Texas Tech. What's Iowa State to make a
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  Final Four? Iowa State is currently 3 to one
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  to make a Final Four. And obviously the overwhelming
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  favorite of the minus money on Arizona.
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  It is -115 now even money on Michigan.
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  These are from DraftKings, Duke plus 175 Yukon.
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  Plus, did you see much of the Duke game last night?
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  I did. Did you watch it earlier late?
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  Because if you watched it late, you just you saw an awful
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  performance from Louisville. They were in this game 15
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  minutes into it and then it started to get away and they
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  never got it back. I watched most of the beginning
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  of the game, got back so. You saw the good part, yes?
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  Got back in it when Duke had stretched it out.
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  It was in the second-half and in fact it was.
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  I flipped over right in time to see Pat Kelsey completely losing
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  his mind on one of his players. He said go get the ball.
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  I just. Yeah, it was.
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  It was a long night for. Them and then we had a
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  conversation with Ella. Would you like a coach like
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  that, Ella? Would you like a softball coach
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  that yelled at you if you did something, Laurent?
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  No, not at all. She said she'd rather lose every
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  game than have a coach that yells at her.
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  The life of the 10 year old. Yeah, it'll change.
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  Yeah, it'll change. All right. 12:15 We will talk
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  more college basketball, obviously, coming up here.
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  Adam Emenecker on on the Missouri Valley Conference as
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  Drake has had a couple of nice wins.
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  Good to see, man. It's good to see Drake fans have
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  had such a nice run over the last, oh, I don't know, 5-6,
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  whatever. It's been years.
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  They've had so much to cheer before you and I just seems to
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  get close and then not able to get past that.
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  But now they're playing well. Well, at least the last game
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  they played well. It seems like Drake has played
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  very well. And Drake's got, I don't know.
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  I know that their next home game, I want to say is against
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  Evansville. Let's get Jim in here real
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  quick. And I want to move on to another
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  topic in our open here. Hello, Jim, how are you?
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  Hey. Guys, I'm not on the, I'm not on
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  the Kansas bandwagon, especially if you guys have soon, you're
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  thinking Peterson is going to be healthy.
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  The rest of the year, well, that's true.
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  It's a big stretch. Yeah, yeah, and don't sleep on
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  Alabama if that big kid is allowed to play the rest of the
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  year. The guards are.
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  I thought the I thought the NCAA is going to throw a flag on
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  that. Do you?
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  I got it, got it, got extended this morning because.
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  Well then it's news to me. Who?
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  By the way, the judge that initially made the decision is
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  in Alabama. Saw that?
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  Yeah. It's unbelievable.
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  You can't make that. And his wife is an attorney for
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  the university or something. Right, they have donated
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  hundreds of thousands of dollars to the athletic department at
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  Alabama. It's it's the SEC.
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  Imagine that. It's good that everything's
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  above board now, yeah? Good stuff, Jim.
• 17:04
  Thanks for the call. Appreciate that.
• 17:06
  That's funny. Yeah.
• 17:07
  You can't make it up, right? It's it's this conference.
• 17:09
  My God did. You see much of the Alabama
• 17:12
  Tennessee game Saturday night. No, no.
• 17:15
  I saw glimpses. He was good, was it?
• 17:17
  Yeah, he came off the bench ovation, did he when he came in
• 17:21
  from the Alabama crowd? What did he do?
• 17:23
  I had like 13 points. He looked the part.
• 17:26
  This is different than the Naji kid from Baylor.
• 17:30
  This is a real dude. And now she's okay.
• 17:33
  Yeah, he's all right. He's a big body, right?
• 17:35
  Betty Ako is a dude and this is something so.
• 17:40
  He's now going to be good to go. Then that changes.
• 17:43
  I think 10 days I think is the injunction is extended because
• 17:46
  of the weather down in Alabama. That's the reason, because they
• 17:49
  weren't able to go to whatever the case was that was supposed
• 17:52
  to be heard today. I think it was today.
• 17:54
  But regardless, yeah, I think 10 days is what I saw. 7 to 10 days
• 17:57
  that'll be open back up before they will readdress this, you
• 18:00
  know, with Bidiaco, you know, we're opening up Pandora's box.
• 18:04
  Yeah. You ready for what's going to
• 18:05
  happen here, Right. Well.
• 18:06
  It's going to be full blown. Let's take a look at next August
• 18:11
  and guys drafted in the sixth round of the NFL Draft.
• 18:15
  No, I know where you're going and.
• 18:17
  It gets cut and you know where he's going to find.
• 18:21
  A home get back to his old school.
• 18:23
  Maybe not even his old school. Maybe any school.
• 18:26
  Any school that needs a defensive tackle, a rush end, an
• 18:29
  extra quarterback, all of a sudden this is going to become
• 18:34
  reality because the going rate for a guy that is an NFL draft
• 18:38
  pick, even at not one of the quote UN quote big time
• 18:41
  positions is still hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• 18:43
  We're going to go sit on a practice squad and hope or I'm
• 18:47
  going to make 350, five, $100,000 and play for one more
• 18:52
  season. They have opened this up.
• 18:53
  How about this? We get to College World Series.
• 18:56
  These guys are playing the minor leagues.
• 19:00
  He has never even opened up the window.
• 19:03
  Well, you know what? We got a.
• 19:04
  Super regional they went right from high school to sign their
• 19:07
  contract well, they. According to what this Alabama
• 19:10
  judge has told us, their college eligibility hasn't even started.
• 19:14
  So suddenly we're going to have some 23 year old career minor
• 19:17
  leaguer has been pitching the minors for five years.
• 19:19
  Well, guess what? He's going to show up for
• 19:22
  Alabama, for Florida State, for NC, whoever it is.
• 19:26
  And it'll be pitching game two of the Super regional.
• 19:28
  I, I can see it a mile away. Injuries hit.
• 19:31
  You're looking for anything. And this judge has told us that
• 19:34
  this is going to be OK. Even if you're a professional,
• 19:38
  you're going to be allowed to happen.
• 19:39
  They have opened up Pandora's box.
• 19:42
  This needs to be closed. And here's another thing, Greg
• 19:44
  Byrne and again, all these athletic directors, they're,
• 19:47
  they talk out of both sides of their mouth.
• 19:49
  I get it. But he has been pleading for
• 19:52
  Congress to help out. We need help.
• 19:54
  And then you go and do this. Come on.
• 19:57
  It is just the ugliness of college athletics.
• 20:00
  Oh, I hope you're wrong. I fear you are right.
• 20:03
  Last thing for you, this about this time yesterday, I, I, I, I
• 20:07
  formed you and my betting accounts are goose eggs.
• 20:12
  Yes, Yeah. But when I and then I wasn't
• 20:14
  going to re up, right? I wasn't going to deposit.
• 20:17
  But I said that not knowing that later on in the day, DraftKings
• 20:20
  was going to put out their Super Bowl futures.
• 20:23
  So you had to jump in so. I had to.
• 20:26
  Of course, why not? Oh my.
• 20:30
  So you've already started to fire at the 2027 Super Bowl?
• 20:34
  I have, yes. Well, I've got four teams.
• 20:37
  Four teams. I'm going to say you'll get
• 20:41
  you'll. I'm going to say you'll get 2
• 20:42
  for sure. Well, that means it's the
• 20:44
  Chargers and the Bengals. I've got both of them OK and
• 20:47
  then the other two I'm anxious to see if you get them.
• 20:50
  So you like a price, it's not going to be a betting.
• 20:51
  Fan well, one of the one of them is a shorter price than normal,
• 20:54
  but when you stack it up with Arizona to go to the final four
• 20:58
  and you add a Yukon women and then yeah, but anyways, yes.
• 21:02
  Not your Broncos, no. The Chiefs, No.
• 21:07
  Too short of a price? Yeah, Chiefs are where a little
• 21:09
  bit better than normal where are Kansas is 15 to.
• 21:12
  One the Atlanta Falcons. No, and that was what I
• 21:15
  struggled. With you're looking at a heart.
• 21:17
  Yes, I am. I can imagine.
• 21:19
  You know why they're 80 to 180 to one.
• 21:22
  That's a price. That's a huge price.
• 21:24
  How about to just win the NFC? Well, that's not up yet.
• 21:27
  Oh, OK, so it's only Super Bowl. Gotcha.
• 21:31
  Who was the other one? Jacksonville.
• 21:33
  Jacksonville, OK. And they're 20 to 1.
• 21:36
  And the short price is the Lions.
• 21:38
  Have you seen their schedule? Very easy.
• 21:40
  It's New England schedule. It's New England schedule.
• 21:43
  It looks like Signetti put it together.
• 21:46
  It's that kind of soft. And on the other side of the
• 21:48
  equation, the bears the most difficult schedule.
• 21:51
  And the Broncos got to be in the same boat.
• 21:53
  I mean, on the 1st place teams and it's the way it should be.
• 21:56
  I left out the Texans and the Texans and the and I can't bet
• 22:00
  the Texans telling who the quarterback is going to be.
• 22:02
  But yeah, on Atlanta, is Kirk Cousins going to be there?
• 22:05
  Is he going to be in Minnesota or is he going to be in a booth?
• 22:09
  Not in a booth on a set, I should say, because I think he's
• 22:11
  been really good. I was shocked how good he was.
• 22:14
  What do you think, Kyle Long? Yeah, he's fine.
• 22:17
  I've heard Kyle Long a bunch. Maybe too much of A Pearl for
• 22:20
  me. OK.
• 22:21
  Seems like Cousins is probably because look it, Matt Ryan's
• 22:25
  already off that set. Yes.
• 22:26
  And how much? Longer does kower.
• 22:28
  Want to go? Or how much longer do they want
• 22:30
  Kower to go because he was the one that survived?
• 22:32
  I thought Kirk Cousins was going to be Kirk Cousins.
• 22:35
  Kind of vanilla. Milk toast.
• 22:37
  Boring. Wife's going to get his clothes
• 22:39
  out for him and dress him before he goes to the absolutely work,
• 22:42
  yeah. He's a nerd, Yes.
• 22:44
  He's a dork. Yes.
• 22:45
  And I thought he would be the same thing on the set.
• 22:47
  He's not. He was saying things.
• 22:49
  I'm with you. He explained it in a way that I
• 22:52
  thought was very relevant, very understandable, not just for
• 22:56
  football junkies, but my wife said the same thing.
• 23:00
  Cousins. He's good.
• 23:02
  He's good on the desk and I think maybe even better in that
• 23:05
  role. I thought, yeah, as the number
• 23:07
  three guy, Fox, sure, he'd be fine.
• 23:09
  Right. But yeah, but.
• 23:11
  But in that role, I don't know what it is, but it's like it's
• 23:13
  perfect. It is, I agree.
• 23:15
  I think a looks part, yes. Good looking guy.
• 23:17
  Handsome dude. Right.
• 23:19
  Let's do Fox real quick. Do they have a difficult
• 23:22
  decision to make after, well, their season is over?
• 23:24
  Because NBC has the and where I'm going is, and I hate to say
• 23:27
  it, because I like old guys. Terry Bradshaw is slipping, man.
• 23:31
  Yes, he's slipping in front of our very eyes.
• 23:34
  That Jimmy's gone now, obviously very close to out the door for
• 23:40
  Bradshaw. Feels like straight hand.
• 23:43
  He's he's OK. Yeah, he kind of played out.
• 23:45
  Drunk. I.
• 23:47
  Like Howie Long? Yes, I like Howie too, but it is
• 23:51
  it does feel like it's time for some new blood.
• 23:53
  Yeah. It's been so good for so long.
• 23:55
  Yep, definitely was the a crew without a doubt.
• 23:58
  When you're talking about pre game show, always was yes with
• 24:00
  the NFL. I mean, the NFC package, whoever
• 24:03
  had it with CBS back in the day and before then, then when they
• 24:07
  went to Fox and they built a hell of a roster over there.
• 24:09
  But it just seems like Bradshaw's come to the end and
• 24:12
  and I'm with you on Kirk Cousins.
• 24:13
  But I think he's in Atlanta and I might be jumping on that 80.
• 24:16
  Price during the break? That's a hell of a price, right?
• 24:18
  80 to 1, he'd need a one. I mean, who's going to who's
• 24:22
  going to push them in the division?
• 24:24
  Tampa down the stretch, we saw what they are.
• 24:26
  New Orleans, maybe the Panthers, I don't know.
• 24:32
  I think Atlanta's the team. He'd need a one.
• 24:36
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  Adam Emenecker haven't been able to say that all season so far.
• 26:30
  Kind of nice to see that the Drake's and and you and I this
• 26:33
  past week putting them in the win column.
• 26:35
  How are you? I'm not too bad, I'm not too
• 26:38
  bad. You know, I think Trent and I
• 26:40
  were just talking off air. I think both fan bases probably
• 26:43
  feeling a little better at this time this week.
• 26:45
  Drake winning three or four and Northern Iowa finally, finally
• 26:49
  ending that five game streak beating Murray State.
• 26:52
  Tough, tough road trip into the state of Iowa for boys from
• 26:56
  Murray, KY. I'll say, hey, who does Jalen
• 26:59
  Quinn remind you of on your team?
• 27:00
  Is he Leonard Houston? Gosh, you know, Jalen Quinn is
• 27:07
  what makes him so unique, probably Leonard Houston way
• 27:11
  back to to that group. And, and what makes him so
• 27:14
  unique is his ability to finish with both hands in the paint,
• 27:16
  you know, as as a lefty, that is, you know, so good both ways
• 27:21
  on the perimeter, but the ability to finish with the right
• 27:24
  hand in the paint. And you know, he, he wasn't a
• 27:27
  great 3 point shooter coming in to Drake.
• 27:29
  And right now he's good and that adds a weapon to his arsenal.
• 27:33
  But man, almost 28 a game for him in his last four games he's
• 27:37
  been he's been a big part of Drake, winning three out of
• 27:40
  their last four. You know, you look at Drake and
• 27:42
  obviously what McCollum did a year ago, what we've seen kind
• 27:44
  of that early returns on things was maybe the expectation a
• 27:48
  little bit out of whack early on for Eric Henderson's group this
• 27:51
  year. Had to completely rebuild that
• 27:53
  roster right again right away and and are fighting their
• 27:56
  footing at this point. But expectations may be a little
• 27:58
  bit too high. It doesn't happen for everybody
• 28:01
  that you can just hit the ground running and go out there and win
• 28:03
  a bunch of games right away. Right.
• 28:06
  I mean, it shows that it's not quite that easy, right?
• 28:08
  And I think for Drake fans over the last seven or eight years,
• 28:10
  even going back to when Nico Medved got the job and put a
• 28:14
  team on the floor, that was a winning team, right?
• 28:16
  And the first winning season in a little while for that Drake
• 28:19
  group. You know, I'll go back to
• 28:21
  something Brian Harden said after McCullum left.
• 28:24
  If he's like, if I if I'm not going to be in this position as
• 28:28
  an athletic director, then what am I doing?
• 28:30
  Like I want to be in a position where this is a place where
• 28:33
  expectations are high, where people are going to win and
• 28:36
  they're going to be coveted for other jobs.
• 28:38
  That's the point. Because if we're having the
• 28:40
  success, all that stuff follows. I think part of what you're
• 28:43
  seeing, right, is it does sometimes take a little time.
• 28:46
  It's not lightning in a bottle every year.
• 28:48
  And you see with this group, there have been some lows, there
• 28:51
  have been some challenges. There's been some opportunities
• 28:54
  or times where this team hit the floor and hasn't been at their
• 28:57
  best. But that doesn't mean the team
• 28:59
  isn't continuing to grow. They're not continuing to find
• 29:01
  their roles and get better. And especially when the schedule
• 29:06
  fits right for what the where the team is, it's a team that's
• 29:10
  found ways to win a couple games and playing with a lot more
• 29:13
  momentum. And it does help that Owen
• 29:14
  Larson is a heck of a lot more healthy, too.
• 29:16
  I was just about to say that. I mean, is he the difference
• 29:19
  maker? You take a look at what he's
• 29:20
  done. I don't think it's a
• 29:22
  coincidence, Adam, if they're playing their best basketball
• 29:24
  since his health has improved. Yeah, yeah, no, no question.
• 29:29
  Because it gives you 2 guys at the guard position that are
• 29:32
  threats, right? I mean, Jalen Quinn is able to
• 29:34
  break down people, get all the way in the paint and score in
• 29:36
  the paint, right? That's one of the things he does
• 29:38
  really, really well. And when he's kicking out the
• 29:40
  shooters, that creates more opportunities for others.
• 29:43
  Well, Owen Larson now, his body's in a little bit better
• 29:45
  shape. He looks a little bit more
• 29:47
  confident. He's a little more on balance,
• 29:49
  and he's being more aggressive going to the rim and actually
• 29:51
  putting the ball up on the backboard 20 points into the
• 29:54
  last two games. What does that do?
• 29:56
  Well, that opens up opportunities for Andrew Aaliyah
• 29:59
  to be a catch and shoot 3 point shooter.
• 30:01
  He's not a guy that creates a lot of shots himself.
• 30:03
  But when the defense focuses on Jalen Quinn and Owen Larson,
• 30:07
  guys like Andrew Aaliyah and Eli Shetler, who now is thrust in
• 30:11
  the starting role because of the injury to Wilkins Junior Exact,
• 30:15
  he's finding his comfort on the offensive end as well.
• 30:18
  It's a more well-rounded offensive team with two guards
• 30:21
  that can attack. Up next to Cedar Falls where you
• 30:25
  and I got a much needed win after the five game losing
• 30:28
  streak off the bench. I mentioned this to Ken
• 30:30
  yesterday, Really like what they're getting out of Ismail
• 30:33
  Joff, the transfer from NC State, guy from Quebec.
• 30:36
  So Ken likes that with the French name to go along with it.
• 30:39
  He's not thick, but he's 69 and they need size.
• 30:41
  Certainly inside. I know Tristan Smith sounds like
• 30:43
  he's going to be still out maybe another week or two and getting
• 30:46
  him back is going to be important.
• 30:47
  But this PA 13 stop the bleeding and look pretty good against a
• 30:50
  good Murray State team. Yeah.
• 30:53
  Well, it helps that after going three of eighteen from 3/4 of 20
• 30:58
  from three and three of 24 against Illinois State, Balpo
• 31:01
  and UIC, they finally went 7 to 15 from three against Murray
• 31:04
  State, who's one of the best 3 point defense teams in the
• 31:07
  country. But those extra, I mean that
• 31:10
  we're talking about an extra 9 to 12 points.
• 31:12
  Well, that's going to propel you from the 60s into the 80s
• 31:16
  basically, right? Which is what we saw against
• 31:19
  Murray State. I thought one of the big
• 31:21
  differences you mentioned, the injury, Tristan Smith, they're
• 31:24
  still trying to figure out the right mix with him out of the
• 31:26
  lineup. I thought Will Hornset looked
• 31:29
  healthier and his aggressiveness early in the game against Fred
• 31:32
  King with a big part of what just settled this Panther
• 31:35
  offense. And then of course, Trey
• 31:37
  Campbell was great down the stretch and doing everything
• 31:40
  you'd hope your senior later would do.
• 31:41
  Now I was just about to say, boy, it's a good thing that that
• 31:44
  he's able to get on the floor every single night because he is
• 31:47
  so impressive and means obviously so much to that team.
• 31:50
  So looking forward to tomorrow a Northern IRA on the road,
• 31:54
  Southern Illinois think that that should be a certainly a win
• 31:58
  you would hope and Evansville comes to the nap center and
• 32:01
  Evansville is the worst team in the league.
• 32:03
  Feels like Drake's about to start to, I mean, continue that
• 32:06
  streak and extend it to three. Fair.
• 32:10
  Yeah, I, I think so. I mean, I, I think you look at
• 32:12
  Evansville, Evansville has had some injuries there.
• 32:14
  The defensive player in the year, last year, Connor Turnbull
• 32:17
  has just been a little bit injury ridden and it's not one
• 32:21
  thing. It's kind of a collection of
• 32:22
  things with him. But you know, you look at the
• 32:25
  you look at you and I we go to at Southern Illinois.
• 32:28
  Well, Southern is missing their leading scorer.
• 32:31
  I don't think he'll be back for that game.
• 32:33
  So they've had an injury bug throughout the course of this
• 32:35
  year and haven't really found their rhythm yet.
• 32:37
  And then they host Evansville right after that.
• 32:39
  So we might see a three-game winning streak for the Panthers.
• 32:42
  And then to your point, Ken, I think you'll look at Drake's
• 32:45
  schedule. You look at Evansville coming up
• 32:47
  tomorrow night. That should be a game you win at
• 32:50
  home and then a revenge opportunity at home against
• 32:53
  Bradley, which no doubt after the thumping the team took in
• 32:58
  Peoria. That group's going to be ready
• 32:59
  to play and, and, and really try to make sure to impose their
• 33:03
  will against the bridge. You look at the NVC, we know
• 33:06
  historically what there's been one team ever that's even got to
• 33:09
  the championship game, having to play in the opening round.
• 33:12
  The importance of just finishing in the top five.
• 33:14
  I mean is that the goal for Drake?
• 33:16
  You and I get in that top five. Give yourself hope.
• 33:18
  Obviously you'll play in the 4-5 game and he go from there.
• 33:22
  Is that realistic or is there even?
• 33:23
  We're out there for both the Bulldogs and the Panthers this
• 33:25
  year. Yeah, You know, I think
• 33:28
  obviously there's two things to that.
• 33:30
  I think from a seeding standpoint, yes, you don't want
• 33:32
  to be in the Thursday game. You want to have an opportunity
• 33:35
  to play Friday. If you're playing Thursday, it
• 33:38
  makes Sunday a lot harder if you get there, right?
• 33:40
  So one less game, one less variable, put yourself in a
• 33:44
  better position to win the weekend.
• 33:45
  But I think the second thing really boils down to for both
• 33:48
  groups knowing that the league is so open, right?
• 33:51
  You look at who Drake has played at home the last couple of
• 33:54
  weeks, beating Murray State, and we're up 25 in the second-half
• 33:58
  against Belmont before releasing that lead.
• 34:01
  Well, those are the top 2 teams in the league.
• 34:03
  And so you already know you can beat those teams.
• 34:06
  And so it's part of playing your best basketball as you get to
• 34:09
  arch Madness is probably more important than whatever the
• 34:13
  final record is or whatever the seat is, as long as you're in
• 34:16
  that top five. You're working tomorrow night.
• 34:19
  You and Morgan have the game. Yep, Yep, we'll be here
• 34:22
  watching, taking in Drake Evansville and seeing if Drake
• 34:25
  can continue the swing. Yeah, and then Bradley, as you
• 34:28
  mentioned, boy, a chance to because you're right, they did,
• 34:30
  they got embarrassed. And if they can put that one
• 34:34
  obviously get tomorrow night, get back ahead of Bradley.
• 34:37
  All of a sudden those spots in the in Saint Louis look a whole
• 34:40
  lot more attainable if they can keep going.
• 34:43
  Adam Amenecker joins us each and every Tuesday talk Missouri
• 34:45
  Valley Conference and I believe it's Thursday with the boys in
• 34:48
  the afternoon with off the bench.
• 34:50
  Good stuff, Adam M and Ecker, enjoy the rest of your week.
• 34:53
  Talk to you in a week's time. Thanks pal.
• 34:55
  Sounds good. Thanks guys.
• 34:56
  Good to talk to you. Checking in on the Valley with
• 34:59
  Adam M and Ecker. It's good to see Drake coming
• 35:01
  back a little bit. And that game's got Saturday's
• 35:04
  game, CBS Sports neck, CBS Sports.
• 35:06
  I'm pretty sure there's TV nice of that game, ESPN Plus for
• 35:10
  tomorrow's game and that's got, I'm guessing 7 right?
• 35:14
  Normally 7:00 tip for that. Who's better director?
• 35:20
  You and I. You and I, You and I's proven
• 35:23
  enough throughout the course of the year that they're better.
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  They end up the losing streak. Yep.
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  That was huge. But it's incredibly tight, yeah.
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  And what if it would come down to that final game of the
• 35:33
  regular season just to get that five?
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  You know what? There's a chance it does.
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  I I. Kind of.
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  Hope it does. Piercing it forward to get the
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  by to get into the quarterfinals.
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  Give yourself a really good shot then of making a run so so.
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  With the with the with the new number of teams in the Valley,
• 35:50
  Help me out with Saint Louis. So first round, the old Drake
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  Invitational. 7 versus 1089. Now it's 11 teams, so the 8-9
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  game, the 710 game and the 611 game OK, so there's three games
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  there. That's why I finishing in the
• 36:04
  top five is incredibly important.
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  Then the way it's sets up time wise same once the it's that
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  noon game, then you get the 4-5 game, the two seven game or two
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  7 or 10 which. Is 6:00 and then the nightcap is
• 36:18
  839 o'clock. Oh yeah, boy, there's some
• 36:21
  drunkards in there at that point.
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  I saw a lot of those. I saw a lot of that that time
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  slot at the Irish bar that we found.
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  Yes, the time to get out of there.
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  And walk in and walk down to the Irish bar.
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  I'll never forget it. I swear to God this happened.
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  And no, I'm not, I'm not even, I, I watched it happen.
• 36:39
  I wish I could remember the name, but it was an Irish bar.
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  But I, I don't know, half a mile from the Enterprise Center and
• 36:47
  the owner of the establishment walked a pig through the front
• 36:52
  door, through the kitchen, and out in the back and butchered
• 36:57
  the pig in the back and the special that night.
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  Swear to God pork chops. True story.
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  Fresh. It was called Dublins.
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  Maybe there's a Maggie O'Brien. No, it's not there.
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  There used to be a Dublins, The Dubliners.
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  Is that the is there used to be a bar called the Dublin.
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  Oh, I had a blast. This is during this is O7O8O9.
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  So we went for both went for the Drake run and then back-to-back.
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  You and I went back-to-back in that tournament, right.
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  So it was kind of like State of I, We dominated that tournament
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  for three years. Yeah, we're there three years in
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  a row. The Dubliner I'm sure it was.
• 37:35
  The Dubliner. By the way, do you know much
• 37:37
  about Saint Louis? A little bit, yeah.
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  We're so we're driving on our vacation.
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  OK, so you're hopping in the car because we got you.
• 37:45
  Right. And I and Sydney can't take more
• 37:46
  than like 6 hours. So we're we're just going to be
• 37:49
  a lot nights in hotels. So, Des Moines, Saint Louis?
• 37:52
  Yep. Guess where we're going through
• 37:53
  my favorite place in our on earth.
• 37:55
  Oh yes. Hannibal, Moe.
• 37:59
  Chesterfield, MO. Don't know it.
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  A suburb of the Saint Louis, though, right?
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  Don't know it. OK.
• 38:05
  My in law, my mother-in-law lives down there.
• 38:08
  My sister-in-law lives down there.
• 38:09
  Don't know that town, though. OK, Chesterfield.
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  Is that what it is? Yeah, it's Chester something.
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  Chesterfield. A thriving, affluent suburb of
• 38:18
  Saint Louis. A population of 50,000.
• 38:20
  All right, we're staying. There.
• 38:21
  And then we're driving Saint Louis to Chattanooga.
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  OK Chattanooga. You probably don't know much
• 38:26
  about Chattanooga. Don't have much there.
• 38:28
  That's where they used to play the F CS championship game.
• 38:33
  Was it not? I told you I was on my way to
• 38:35
  the you and I championship game, got as far as Waterloo.
• 38:38
  My buddy who was driving said this is stupid.
• 38:40
  That's who. We turned around at 2:30 AM.
• 38:42
  And then into Folly Beach, SC, it's about 20 minutes from
• 38:45
  Charleston, SC All right, we'll take your time out, come back,
• 38:48
  finish up the hour. Miller and Condon glad you're
• 38:50
  with us as we talk sports with you on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 38:54
  Network. Hi, Miller Condon, welcome back.
• 39:07
  Final minute here, our number one, our number 2, David Icolt
• 39:12
  on Hawkeye related topics, Frank Schwab on the NFL.
• 39:15
  He'll join us at 1:30. Circus sports sponsor Trent's
• 39:19
  Plays of the day. That is coming up here at about
• 39:21
  10 minutes before 2:00. I see circus got their squares
• 39:25
  already up and running. Circus squares, such a an
• 39:28
  incredibly popular way to bet on the Super Bowl.
• 39:31
  We've all played squares or most of us have played squares at a
• 39:33
  bar or a Super Bowl party. But here it's different because
• 39:37
  you can lock in your price. You can pick the number.
• 39:40
  It's not random. You whatever number you want,
• 39:42
  you go to that corresponding number and you see the price and
• 39:45
  that price is locked in. How many times do you get oh I
• 39:48
  got a A5 and A4? Yeah, you have no choice.
• 39:51
  Or no chance rather. Well, you're kind of doing it
• 39:53
  well. You can take 5 and 4, but you're
• 39:55
  not going to get one in 100 odds.
• 39:58
  You're going to get an opportunity to get some big
• 40:00
  time. Odds, big time.
• 40:01
  You can do it not just for the full game.
• 40:03
  You can do it each quarter, and you can go that route, too.
• 40:06
  So you want to take some clunky ones, take a couple of Flyers.
• 40:08
  I mean, you're looking for lottery tickets.
• 40:10
  Absolutely. This is a perfect way to do that
• 40:12
  for the Super Bowl. Circuit took the first
• 40:15
  $1,000,000 bet on the Super Bowl.
• 40:16
  Saw that? On the Patriots money line.
• 40:19
  Money line. So it was plus 188 beforehand?
• 40:23
  Yep. Dropped it down to plus 180.
• 40:25
  I saw Jeff Benson mentioned that. $1,000,000 bet on the
• 40:28
  Patriots. What am I missing?
• 40:32
  You don't think it's going to be a game, do you?
• 40:33
  It's football. Might be it.
• 40:36
  Sam Darnold's on the other side. Well, I've.
• 40:37
  Missed the If you look at my futures, I apparently missed all
• 40:39
  the 2025 season. That no patriots, no patriots
• 40:44
  and you love prices. I took a stand.
• 40:47
  Team's not getting there. Oops.
• 40:50
  Hour 2 coming up next, David Eichold starts it off Frank
• 40:53
  Schwab on the NFL at 1:30. Miller and Condon talking sports
• 40:58
  with you, and we're here until 2 on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 41:00
  Network.