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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, August 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't jack with Jack Warrens? Did
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Speaker 1: don't say it, actually see Jeff Warrens drive time starts
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Speaker 1: right now. I know, speaking from my perspective, I have
0:20
Speaker 1: to definitely get back in full Paddy shape. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 1: I tried to go as hard as I can every
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Speaker 1: play without taking any plays off. I definitely definitely didn't
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Speaker 1: take any place off. But just being back to fuith
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Speaker 1: and being back to full pass man, it is something
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Speaker 1: that we have to really give youth to again. And
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Speaker 1: I know coach Marona is taking really good care of
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Speaker 1: us this offseason and we practice, so I really appreciate that. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But that's why I do stay after you stay at
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Speaker 1: the practice to get that extra conditioning so I can
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Speaker 1: be more prepared for the next day to come. Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen being very honest there that everyone is trying to
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Speaker 1: get back in football, shaved Jaguars back and paths and
1:06
Speaker 1: in the thick of training camp, no preseason games to
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Speaker 1: break this up. It is going to be a long
1:13
Speaker 1: grind for everyone involved. But a little hard work does
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Speaker 1: not scare any of us, especially for my two co hosts,
1:19
Speaker 1: John Osier and Brian Sexton. John, we were joking before
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Speaker 1: the show, at what point do these days, after days
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Speaker 1: of training camp practice get a little old to you? Augus?
1:35
Speaker 1: Is that question? This is very much to be careful
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Speaker 1: what you wish for situations for the players. They wanted
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Speaker 1: no preseason game. The preseason games also come with a
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Speaker 1: little day off. Four day off after this will get long.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you I would have similar to John, had
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Speaker 1: we've been through O T A S I would have
2:05
Speaker 1: said something very similar to John. Um. However, ask the
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Speaker 1: college kids right now if they would trade sitting on
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Speaker 1: the sidelines and watching others participate in sports for the
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Speaker 1: chance to go out and grind it for the next
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Speaker 1: three weeks, and I think they probably would. I mean,
2:22
Speaker 1: I get the sentiment. Look, today is the player's day off,
2:25
Speaker 1: and then the next six days in a row, they
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Speaker 1: will work, They'll go through meetings, they'll have time on
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Speaker 1: the practice field in the morning, in the afternoon, and
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Speaker 1: meetings again in the evening until next Wednesday. They'll get
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Speaker 1: a day off and then they'll do it again. Um.
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Speaker 1: That's not the normal rhythm to a training camp in
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Speaker 1: normally as John just alluded to, you know, the day
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Speaker 1: before the game, the preseason game, it's light for veterans.
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Speaker 1: Day of the game, it's light for veterans day after
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Speaker 1: the game's day off. You're really only working three four
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Speaker 1: days in a row, and then you're getting a three
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Speaker 1: day break that's not taking fear. So it is absolutely
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Speaker 1: a grind and it's going to be interesting to see.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was telling on Sunday when Chris Connolly
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Speaker 1: said they'll either get to the season and be sharp
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Speaker 1: for all the practice time, or they'll be sloppy for
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Speaker 1: not having the preseason games. Speaking of Chris Connelly, we're
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Speaker 1: going to hear from him shortly in big things, like
3:21
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned player's day off today, but still lots to
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Speaker 1: recap as we get into big things. Big thing one
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Speaker 1: is the grind. Like we were just talking about, four
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Speaker 1: and a half weeks until an actual game is played.
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Speaker 1: Pre season's canceled, players are now in a long grind
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Speaker 1: to get ready for the season a month more to go,
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Speaker 1: So trying to stay motivated and internally motivated every day
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Speaker 1: is going to be important, but more so, trying to
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Speaker 1: stay healthy is priority number one. I think one of
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Speaker 1: the big things that's going to be uh important for
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Speaker 1: them being that there were no O T s and
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Speaker 1: that there are no preseason games is they're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to learn how to take care of their bodies because
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Speaker 1: right now you're practicing, you're at home, the days are shorter,
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't really give you a good idea of
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Speaker 1: what a regular season game week is like. When you're
4:08
Speaker 1: at week eight and your hamstrings are a little tight
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Speaker 1: and your back is hurting and your feet are hurting,
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Speaker 1: you got to really take time to invest in your body.
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Speaker 1: Veteran wide receiver Chris Connelly giving some great advice there
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Speaker 1: to the rookies to keep your body healthy. Big thing
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Speaker 1: too is soft spots with pads coming on. That means
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Speaker 1: more injuries are going to occur. It's unavoidable at this point,
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Speaker 1: and Jaguars definitely have their fair share of injuries. Quincy
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Speaker 1: Williams core muscle injury, Caleb and Chase on Steel dealings
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Speaker 1: with that hamstring injury, trying to nurse that back to health.
4:44
Speaker 1: But sadly, a guy we were all looking forward to
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Speaker 1: seeing was tight end Josh Oliver. I was so excited
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Speaker 1: for the kid and and I'm just as disappointed. I
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Speaker 1: talked with him the other day off that happened. I said, hey, man,
4:59
Speaker 1: you know you can only intro to things you can control. Said,
5:02
Speaker 1: you never know what tomorrow is gonna bring. You just
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Speaker 1: have to deal with um with every day. And UM.
5:08
Speaker 1: You know one thing I do know that um cream
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Speaker 1: rises to the top. Although turds do float, okay, but
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Speaker 1: this kid is gonna be okay. You know he's he's
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Speaker 1: got talent and and and he's um. He's a good person.
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Speaker 1: Tight end coach Ron Middleton might have the best quote
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Speaker 1: of training camp so far with that one turns Yep,
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Speaker 1: they'll float. And big thing three is the new guys
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Speaker 1: the du ball doesn't how are they doing? Offensive lineman
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Speaker 1: Ben Bart. I think we all can say we were
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Speaker 1: a little surprised with how well he did and O
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Speaker 1: line versus D line drills. Ron Middelton, who you just
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Speaker 1: heard from, was talking about the potential and the talent
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Speaker 1: he sees in Tyler Davis. But one star as of
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Speaker 1: now is shining brighter than the rest, and that is
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Speaker 1: wide receiver Lavisca Channel Jr. We're putting a lot on them. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's an incredible athlete. I mean when you
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Speaker 1: when you get a visual on him. I don't think
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Speaker 1: you realize until you know you actually see him up
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Speaker 1: close of how big he is, how strong he is,
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Speaker 1: how powerful he is. Coach Marne definitely with high praise
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Speaker 1: for the newest wide receiver. So guys, let's start right
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Speaker 1: there with big thing three talking about these new guys.
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Speaker 1: It's easy to see, especially with wide receivers in a
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Speaker 1: time like this, those guys outshine someone like an offensive lineman.
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Speaker 1: But John, it was interesting. I had the chance to
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Speaker 1: catch up with Labisco Chanel Jr. For an interview that's
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Speaker 1: going to air and All Access the first show on Thursday,
6:39
Speaker 1: and I was telling him about how head coach Keenamcardell
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Speaker 1: has compared him to ann Quan Bolden and all of
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Speaker 1: these other guys and all this high praise. And he said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's great. I appreciate that, but I haven't even played
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Speaker 1: a game yet, so let's slow it down. And that
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Speaker 1: was interesting that he humbled everyone else. Are we praising
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Speaker 1: this guy too fast? You think, well, it's all we
7:01
Speaker 1: have to do, right, So I get that we're doing it.
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Speaker 1: He has the body type, he has all the things
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Speaker 1: to get excited about and frankly, with wide receivers around here,
7:11
Speaker 1: except for a very brief time with Justin Blackman, there
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Speaker 1: hasn't been a young guy to really dazzle. So I
7:19
Speaker 1: don't know that Jaguars fans know what this looks like. Uh.
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Speaker 1: If he's what he looked like, Brian, I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: the impact he's gonna make. He could change the offense.
7:32
Speaker 1: I'm I always hesitate to go immediate impact with wide receiver,
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Speaker 1: but maybe this guy is a guy who can do it. Ashlyn.
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Speaker 1: The answer I have for your question is no, absolutely not,
7:46
Speaker 1: because our expectation for this guy, and I think everyone's
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Speaker 1: expectation for this guy is real. He, as John just said,
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Speaker 1: is an impact player. When I look at him, and
7:56
Speaker 1: it's not just the hair, I look at the body
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Speaker 1: style and the way he played as he looks just
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Speaker 1: like Larry Fitzgerald to me, and that's really high praise.
8:04
Speaker 1: We're talking about one of the all time grades. But
8:06
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the style of play, the physical side,
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Speaker 1: the way he moves with the ball after the cat,
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Speaker 1: how comfortable he is in the middle of the field
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Speaker 1: running almost every route. No, I don't think they're giving
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Speaker 1: him too much praise, because I think the kid is
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Speaker 1: going to be an absolute star. I watched him at Colorado.
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Speaker 1: In fact, that he had come out after his second
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Speaker 1: season at Colorado, he would have been a top five pick.
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Speaker 1: There were some people that thought he was that good.
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Speaker 1: So I don't think you're giving him too much praise.
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Speaker 1: At this point. He's showing you. Let me give you
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Speaker 1: a guy that I've been impressed with quickly. Ben Bart,
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Speaker 1: the young man from St. John's College in Minnesota, lined
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Speaker 1: up against Timmy Journegan the other day in one on
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Speaker 1: one pass rut. Now I get it. It was journe
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Speaker 1: against first day of actually working. He'd been rehabbing, and
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Speaker 1: he just got there. Now you're talking about second round pick,
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Speaker 1: a guy that played at Florida State and his time
8:54
Speaker 1: in the league with the Ravens and with the Eagles, Right,
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Speaker 1: so he should be able to handle Ben bartch fourth
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Speaker 1: round pick. But Barts showed great ability with his feet
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Speaker 1: in his hand. That was what I was looking for.
9:05
Speaker 1: I get that he's gonna have to work to get
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Speaker 1: stronger to handle some of the speed and the power
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Speaker 1: that he's going to see in the NFL. But he's
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Speaker 1: got technique that he's been taught, whether it was high
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Speaker 1: school or St. John's College. This kid is someone to
9:17
Speaker 1: really watch, someone to start thinking about as a long
9:20
Speaker 1: term prospect in the NFL because he's got the size
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Speaker 1: and he's got the skills. Is he ready today? Dope?
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Speaker 1: But I was impressed with what I saw the first
9:29
Speaker 1: time he was in PAD. Yeah, I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: I think we all were sitting in those bleachers when
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Speaker 1: he went against Timmy Journegan, and we all just kind
9:37
Speaker 1: of looked at each other and said, dang, I wasn't
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Speaker 1: expecting that one. So shout out to Ben Barg's definitely
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Speaker 1: uh doing well so far in training camp. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to big thing. Two guys with these soft spots. Very
9:49
Speaker 1: disappointing news with tight end Josh Oliver, and you can't
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Speaker 1: help but think of exactly like last season. We were
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Speaker 1: hyping him up the first week of training camp, definitely
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Speaker 1: showing out for the tight end group. Now with the
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Speaker 1: broken foot, you don't know when he's gonna come back. John.
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Speaker 1: Is this as big of a blow as it seems
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Speaker 1: to the tight end room? I think it's really big
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Speaker 1: because in our quick thoughts that Brian and I wrote
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Speaker 1: for later this afternoon. I actually wrote that I think
10:16
Speaker 1: this is a bigger loss than any of the defensive tackles.
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Speaker 1: Defensive tackles, you've got a little deaf. People are very
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Speaker 1: concerned about losing Woods and Gunter, and I get that,
10:24
Speaker 1: but there are guys now that turning ins in. There
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Speaker 1: are guys there are guys at the tight end spot too.
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Speaker 1: But the coaches really think that a guy like Josh Oliver,
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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver is a player who can eventually be a
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Speaker 1: next level type tight end. Effort has been that he's
10:41
Speaker 1: been in the Pro Bowl, but I don't know that
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Speaker 1: he's going to be around here three, four or five
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Speaker 1: years to do this. Oliver is a guy that they think,
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Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, can solve their long time
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Speaker 1: tight end issue. He looked good. UM great offense that
10:54
Speaker 1: wants to depend on the tight end. I think losing
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Speaker 1: him is huge. It's absolutely a blow. When you're talking
11:03
Speaker 1: about Oliver, you're just looking at the kid. This summer,
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Speaker 1: he was clearly bigger, which means he was stronger. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He's he's shown since the moment he arrived, uncanny athleticism
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Speaker 1: for a big man. UH. Last summer we were disappointed
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Speaker 1: with the hamstring because in two weeks we saw a
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Speaker 1: guy that looked different than any tight end that was
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Speaker 1: on the roster. Um long term, this kid still has
11:25
Speaker 1: huge upside. However, now everyone's going to tag him with
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Speaker 1: often injured, we'll see. I mean, it's this is one
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Speaker 1: of those injuries that could linger. It could be another
11:35
Speaker 1: year before we get the chance to see him. But
11:37
Speaker 1: he is a talented kid and there's nothing that would
11:39
Speaker 1: keep him from getting healthy and staying healthy. Remember a
11:43
Speaker 1: guy who was injured early and often in his career
11:45
Speaker 1: named Fred Taylor who finally got over that bug and
11:48
Speaker 1: lasted eleven years as a running back. Give this kid
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Speaker 1: some time. Yeah, definitely bumming to see the injury with
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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, and now much more impact goes onto James
11:59
Speaker 1: O'Shaughnessy's shoulder, who's coming back from that knee injury as well. So, guys,
12:03
Speaker 1: let's quickly talk about a guy that we hyped up
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Speaker 1: so much after the draft, and that was Caleb and
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Speaker 1: Chase on first round draft pick right now dealing with
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Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. And I can't help but think this
12:13
Speaker 1: time last year, Josh Allen was dealing with an injury
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Speaker 1: as well right when he got here, But as soon
12:18
Speaker 1: as he hit the field, that was it. There was
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Speaker 1: no more big injury news and he made an immediate impact.
12:23
Speaker 1: We're seeing Caleban work with Josh Allen after practice, still
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Speaker 1: getting those reps in, so I think we're just really
12:29
Speaker 1: waiting to see the impact he can make once he
12:31
Speaker 1: gets pads on, right John, Yeah, last year with I
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Speaker 1: think it was a knee and O T A S
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Speaker 1: and they basically he worked for maybe a day and
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Speaker 1: they shut him down from a caution. You get the idea,
12:44
Speaker 1: that's what this is with Jason. Although once you hear
12:48
Speaker 1: he has had this in the past, do you hope
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Speaker 1: it's not lingering. I don't want to expect you that
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Speaker 1: on that. I have no idea. He is a guy
12:56
Speaker 1: they rave about his athletics is and they rave rave
12:59
Speaker 1: bet everything and you can do. I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: gonna have a Josh Allen to type rookie year. Those
13:04
Speaker 1: are rare, but they need him on the field, especially if,
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Speaker 1: for god ways not here. He's not missing game time
13:13
Speaker 1: because there are no pre games. He's missing practice time,
13:16
Speaker 1: and as we said off the top, there's plenty of
13:19
Speaker 1: that to go around. There's a lot more of that ahead,
13:22
Speaker 1: So this summer, it's not as big a deal for
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Speaker 1: Jason to not be on the field right now. Now,
13:28
Speaker 1: in three weeks, if he's still not practicing, okay, then
13:32
Speaker 1: you start to worry because Josh Allen is going to
13:35
Speaker 1: see a lot more double There's plenty of opportunity for
13:37
Speaker 1: this kid, and in god way, to take advantage of
13:40
Speaker 1: the fact that there's going to be defense pardon the
13:43
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators really focused on where forty one is on
13:46
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense. I get that he's had this in
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Speaker 1: the past. Smart is the right way to go with
13:53
Speaker 1: this injury right now, because it's not as if you're
13:55
Speaker 1: saying you'd feel bad if you were playing the Bills
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Speaker 1: and he was into on the field, or the Redskins,
14:02
Speaker 1: the Washington football team, pardon me, um, you know any
14:05
Speaker 1: of the preseason opponents that were on the schedule. You
14:07
Speaker 1: don't have that right now, So just let him work
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Speaker 1: his way back in. Yes, staying patient, but definitely excited
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Speaker 1: to see that. Guys and pads hopefully soon already those
14:18
Speaker 1: are our big things when we come back. We start
14:21
Speaker 1: a new segment here during training camp. Some camp battles
14:25
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Speaker 1: so maybe this is the sorority girl in me talking,
16:43
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you've heard, but the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: now have panned gatorade at training camp yesterday. This gem
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Speaker 1: of a photo hit Twitter. Shout out to us Today
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16:57
Speaker 1: when I saw that can gear, and I was like
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Speaker 1: Gartner and she definitely is gonna shotgun one at some point.
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Speaker 1: Took him two days to make this happen. John Brian,
17:22
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hear me. Some technical difficulty,
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Speaker 1: sorry about that, but I just I can hear you
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Speaker 1: now that you really hope that I can hear you
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Speaker 1: now like this was fun. Yeah, you know, I mean
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Speaker 1: that's your that's your age group. That the photo does
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Speaker 1: nothing for me. You know, it's the sorority girl in you.
17:39
Speaker 1: But I get it. I mean the personality for young
17:41
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17:47
Speaker 1: and it does something for the sorority girl in me. Yes,
17:52
Speaker 1: that's what I was pounding on. I was hoping you
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Speaker 1: would say that, John. Alright, some camp battles, shall we
18:01
Speaker 1: It's very early on, but we got to look at
18:03
Speaker 1: something with all these long tracts that's coming ups, We're
18:05
Speaker 1: looking at some key battles that could roll out for
18:08
Speaker 1: starting roles coming up in this season. Let's go Brian
18:11
Speaker 1: with the first camp battle looking at outside linebacker. Let's
18:16
Speaker 1: go Cassus Marsh and Leon Jacobs. Well, and you know
18:22
Speaker 1: the other day there was some conversation with the Tyler
18:25
Speaker 1: Eiffort and he was talking about Leon Jacob, who has
18:28
Speaker 1: always been an absolute specimen, I mean, a physically gifted
18:33
Speaker 1: man and a guy who was playing pretty well last
18:36
Speaker 1: year at outside linebacker as the season came to a close.
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Speaker 1: And then that cash is Marsh who is listed as
18:43
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, but has been practicing with the linebackers.
18:47
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a really interesting position. We spend
18:49
Speaker 1: so much time talking about show Bert in the middle
18:52
Speaker 1: and Miles jack on the week died, but this position
18:54
Speaker 1: is critical because this strong side backer has to be
18:58
Speaker 1: able to play in coverage or he has to be
19:00
Speaker 1: able to go rush the passer. Um Jacobs was a
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Speaker 1: very good pass rusher in college and Cassius marsh is
19:08
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. So I'm watching this position closely even
19:11
Speaker 1: though most people aren't, because one week spot on a
19:14
Speaker 1: defense can create a problem. That's all an offensive coordinator needs.
19:19
Speaker 1: And with the way the tight ends are used in
19:21
Speaker 1: this league, this position is going to be important. Yeah, John,
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Speaker 1: I think you also can agree. Cassius march I think
19:32
Speaker 1: has been definitely improving and definitely standing out. I know
19:35
Speaker 1: a couple of practices ago they were doing a running
19:37
Speaker 1: back drills with Leonard Fournett and he was stopping Leonard
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Speaker 1: front at the goal line, probably three times in a row.
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Speaker 1: So have you been impressed with him so far? Well,
19:46
Speaker 1: he was brought in, He's SAE. When he was brought
19:48
Speaker 1: in with the idea of competing for the starting job
19:51
Speaker 1: at the strong side backer. I also think Chasin is
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Speaker 1: gonna have a big when he gets back. I think
19:56
Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy who really pushed to
19:58
Speaker 1: start out there. I think they're changing. Look uh so,
20:02
Speaker 1: I think that will be a battle when you get back.
20:04
Speaker 1: I've been impressed with Cassius Marsh. I guess I'm guilty
20:08
Speaker 1: more of waiting for Chase sign to get back there
20:11
Speaker 1: so I can watch him. Absolutely all right, let's get
20:15
Speaker 1: into our next camp battle. A lot of turnaround at
20:19
Speaker 1: this position so far, John, you're looking at defensive tackle. Yeah,
20:25
Speaker 1: and it's hard to really specify one person you're looking at.
20:30
Speaker 1: Is it a battle, I don't know. I guess I'm
20:32
Speaker 1: looking for the rotation here more than anything. I don't
20:35
Speaker 1: really care who starts there. I assume Caven Brian is
20:37
Speaker 1: gonna start. My guess is that Abrey Jones will probably
20:41
Speaker 1: move up and started nos U. Now the Woods is out,
20:44
Speaker 1: Now that Gunter is not around, Davon Hamilton's becomes I
20:47
Speaker 1: think absolutely key. Is he a guy, a third round
20:52
Speaker 1: rookie nose tackle, usually as a rotational guy with the
20:55
Speaker 1: idea that he's going to develop and start later on.
20:58
Speaker 1: Can he be better as a rookie than most rookies
21:02
Speaker 1: are at that fight? It could be an adjustment trying
21:04
Speaker 1: to figure out NFL size, strength, how to leverage those things.
21:08
Speaker 1: So those things I'm with Brian. I don't think they're
21:13
Speaker 1: necessarily desperate at that bot. Now they've brought in Journ
21:16
Speaker 1: again and they're thin. They can't afford to lose any
21:18
Speaker 1: more numbers. But I'll be fascinated to see how that
21:20
Speaker 1: rotation plays out entering the season. Well, and I agree
21:27
Speaker 1: when you look at it, Jones, Brian Hamilton's were locks
21:31
Speaker 1: one to three, and you're replacing Gunter and Woods with
21:36
Speaker 1: Timmy Journ again, I believe that's an upgrade. So now
21:39
Speaker 1: you've got to find a fifth guy, right, If you
21:41
Speaker 1: decide to keep five tackles, you know there may be
21:43
Speaker 1: some on the roster. I mean, I'll give you a name.
21:46
Speaker 1: What about dwant Smooth who is a big end but
21:49
Speaker 1: could play that three technique. Put ten pounds on him
21:52
Speaker 1: right and let him play against try to get a
21:55
Speaker 1: mismatch and see if he can't play on the edge
21:58
Speaker 1: in that free technique. There, maybe he's your fifth and
22:01
Speaker 1: that gives you a guy that can play both outside
22:03
Speaker 1: in a five or inside in the free technique. To me,
22:07
Speaker 1: that makes all the sense in the world. They're not
22:09
Speaker 1: desperate at defensive tackle. Now you lose one of those
22:12
Speaker 1: other guys, you might be um. But to me, this
22:14
Speaker 1: is a fascinating conversation because Hamilton is a guy that
22:19
Speaker 1: he looks the part of that big stocky you know,
22:22
Speaker 1: zero technique nose tackle, And to me, Abry Jones is
22:27
Speaker 1: a guy who plays it, but he's not as wide,
22:30
Speaker 1: he's not as sturdy. I want him for fifteen to
22:33
Speaker 1: twenty really effective snaps a game, more towards fifteen. So
22:36
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what Hamilton's can do. Because if
22:38
Speaker 1: you put Hamilton and Brian next to each other, you've
22:40
Speaker 1: got the biggest set of defensive tackles that the Jaguars
22:43
Speaker 1: have had next to each other since probably Stroud and Henderson,
22:46
Speaker 1: and that goes back away. It's gonna be fun to
22:48
Speaker 1: watch these two guys play off of one another because
22:51
Speaker 1: I'm really high on what Brian did at the end
22:53
Speaker 1: of last season, and I think he looks terrific. He's
22:55
Speaker 1: moving so well, and I think that's knowledge, not that
22:58
Speaker 1: he's gotten more athletic. I think he feels more comfortable
23:01
Speaker 1: in his role and I think he understands the defense better. Yeah,
23:06
Speaker 1: a lot of guys standing out so far during training camp,
23:09
Speaker 1: but Taven Brian definitely is a guy who seems to
23:11
Speaker 1: be taking a step in the right direction. So agree
23:13
Speaker 1: with you. Very interesting to see how that role is
23:16
Speaker 1: going to play out. All right. I have another camp
23:17
Speaker 1: battle for you guys. How about left tackle? And I
23:20
Speaker 1: think this is more of a camp battle than we
23:22
Speaker 1: used to think it was. Cam Robinson versus Will Richardson Jr.
23:27
Speaker 1: Cam told us a week ago that he is night
23:30
Speaker 1: and day healthwise where he was at this point last season.
23:33
Speaker 1: This point last season, he was just getting cleared back
23:36
Speaker 1: on the field from that a c L tear. So
23:38
Speaker 1: it's safe to say, Okay, he's the starter, of course,
23:41
Speaker 1: but not so fast. I think we've all talked about
23:44
Speaker 1: that this is a huge year for Cam Robinson is
23:46
Speaker 1: he did not improve the way the Jaguars want to
23:49
Speaker 1: see him improve and solidify that he is their franchise
23:52
Speaker 1: left tackle going forward. I think Will Richardson is closer
23:56
Speaker 1: than we think on the heels to possibly take that role.
23:59
Speaker 1: Will Richardson was telling me on Instagram Live that he
24:02
Speaker 1: is so happy to finally be at a position, one
24:05
Speaker 1: person's position that he can perfect at. He was a
24:08
Speaker 1: swing tackle last year, going all over the place. Now
24:11
Speaker 1: he's the backup left tackle. I asked him, okay, well,
24:14
Speaker 1: what are your goals with this? He goes, oh, well,
24:16
Speaker 1: to be the starter, of course. So I think Cam
24:18
Speaker 1: Robinson will start this season. But I wouldn't be surprised
24:22
Speaker 1: John if Cam is not going forward as they would
24:25
Speaker 1: like to see. If Will Richardson goes in a game,
24:28
Speaker 1: he might not come out. Yeah, I would be surprised
24:35
Speaker 1: if Richardson starts this year. I still maintain that they
24:39
Speaker 1: moved him there because he's the move He's the guy
24:42
Speaker 1: on the roster, that starter who has snapped to be
24:45
Speaker 1: a swing tack. They lost, uh centrica way. He they
24:49
Speaker 1: needed somebody with snaps out there, didn't have to go
24:52
Speaker 1: get him. I'm not discounting Richardson's ability or his desire
24:57
Speaker 1: to start. I just think that if Cam Robinson is healthy,
25:01
Speaker 1: he is going to be the left tackle. Is the
25:04
Speaker 1: left tackle, physical body type on the roster. Um I
25:09
Speaker 1: agree with it's the battle as long as Cam is
25:14
Speaker 1: not going to his full ability. I think he's under
25:16
Speaker 1: presented healthy. I would be surprised and I guess a
25:19
Speaker 1: little disappointed if Robinson, If a healthy Robinson doesn't start
25:24
Speaker 1: sixteen games, and then I think next year, depending on
25:28
Speaker 1: what happens with Cam long term, I think Richardson could
25:31
Speaker 1: wind up being the guy. When I watched Cam, it's
25:37
Speaker 1: clear he's more healthy this year than he was a
25:39
Speaker 1: year ago. You could just see it in the way
25:41
Speaker 1: that he moved. But he's still sloppy with his feet,
25:44
Speaker 1: and that was the knock on him coming out of Alabama.
25:47
Speaker 1: For all of the high level players that he fared
25:49
Speaker 1: against in the Southeastern Conference, his footwork wasn't real good
25:53
Speaker 1: and it hasn't gotten that much better over the last
25:56
Speaker 1: couple of years. So I'm really watching his technique. And
25:59
Speaker 1: George war Hoop is thought to be a technique sound coach.
26:03
Speaker 1: Everyone I've talked to says that, so Ham's got to
26:06
Speaker 1: shore it up. His feet have to get precise, and
26:10
Speaker 1: if he gets his footwork right, he can be the
26:12
Speaker 1: long term left tackle here. But that takes a lot
26:15
Speaker 1: of work. It takes a lot of work after practice,
26:18
Speaker 1: it takes work in the morning when you get up
26:20
Speaker 1: and you're in your room, you know, I mean, you've
26:21
Speaker 1: got to be thinking about that at all times. This
26:24
Speaker 1: is a desire thing with Cam. If he wants to
26:27
Speaker 1: maximize his ability, he's got to work on those feet
26:31
Speaker 1: and if he does, he'll be very highly compensated and
26:34
Speaker 1: play a very long time in this game. Yep. Curious
26:40
Speaker 1: to see how all of those camp battles play out,
26:43
Speaker 1: and we will definitely paying paying lots of attention to those,
26:46
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Speaker 1: who you got for us? Totty's asking John do with
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Speaker 1: the players miss playing the preseason games? Well, I think
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Speaker 1: they're gonna miss it in the sense that we talked
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Speaker 1: about earlier. All of a sudden, these guys are going
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Speaker 1: to have a long grind this month, and I think
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Speaker 1: maybe the thrill of not having to play preseason games.
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Speaker 1: We'll go away at some point in degree heat at
30:31
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in Jacksonville. But I do think some will
30:35
Speaker 1: miss it in the sense that young players Brian are
30:38
Speaker 1: gonna miss this. It's it's obviously going to hurt chances
30:43
Speaker 1: for free agent rookies to make rosters. I think first
30:46
Speaker 1: and second year veterans, those guys won't miss the preseason
30:50
Speaker 1: games as much, but the young guys, you know, I
30:53
Speaker 1: think it's going to cost some guys thought they'll probably
30:56
Speaker 1: be invited back next year. I don't think it'll kill
30:58
Speaker 1: their chances to have an NFL career, But for right now,
31:02
Speaker 1: young players are going to miss the opportunities that come
31:04
Speaker 1: from preseason games. Well players, all players practice so they
31:12
Speaker 1: can play, and those preseason games, as much as people
31:16
Speaker 1: complained about them, were a break from the grind of
31:20
Speaker 1: practice and and players they want to play, So yeah,
31:23
Speaker 1: I think they will miss there being some and you know,
31:26
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk last year about just eliminating
31:28
Speaker 1: preseasons altogether. I think you'll even have some veteran players
31:32
Speaker 1: who will come back next year. If there are preseason
31:35
Speaker 1: games and say, you know, we need these, we need
31:37
Speaker 1: these opportunities. It breaks a camp we did work on
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Speaker 1: our craft and the other people that will miss the
31:42
Speaker 1: preseason games with the coaches because you can go as
31:46
Speaker 1: live as possible with yourself, right because there are no
31:49
Speaker 1: joint practices this summer, but you still can't simulate game
31:52
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Speaker 1: that tape and make evaluations about what a player can
32:00
Speaker 1: do in a game situation with no game situations, that
32:03
Speaker 1: makes their job much tough. M You bring up a
32:08
Speaker 1: very good point. I'm gonna have Chris Claybrooks rookie seventh
32:11
Speaker 1: round draft pick on Instagram live tonight. I'm very curious
32:14
Speaker 1: to see what a guy like that thinks of no
32:16
Speaker 1: preseason games, because obviously that is incredibly important for someone
32:20
Speaker 1: like That's a stay tuned for his answer. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to Riverside, good old Riverside. Charles is saying, hello, John,
32:28
Speaker 1: how important potentially or positionally is it for the offensive lines?
32:32
Speaker 1: Have all five of last year's starters returning the season? Well,
32:39
Speaker 1: if he for a multitude of reason, it's more key
32:43
Speaker 1: at that spot. They have cont continuity returning in any
32:48
Speaker 1: other spot on the roster they work together. They have
32:51
Speaker 1: to know in pass pro when do slide, when to
32:55
Speaker 1: let somebody else, when do let somebody else take their guy? Um,
32:58
Speaker 1: it's also important in round black it's a port and everything.
33:00
Speaker 1: There's no more important position in that And for this group,
33:04
Speaker 1: I think it's the one thing they can hang their
33:06
Speaker 1: hat on. They haven't always performed as a group up
33:10
Speaker 1: to their potential. We've talked about it at nauseum on
33:12
Speaker 1: this show for two years that somehow the sum of
33:15
Speaker 1: the results never quite equals the parts on this group.
33:20
Speaker 1: Maybe continuity, Brian would be a way that they can
33:24
Speaker 1: reach that. I think this group is better or has
33:27
Speaker 1: a chance to be better than a lot of observe
33:29
Speaker 1: observers think maybe it's because I listen to the coaches
33:32
Speaker 1: they believe in it so strongly. But to me, continuity
33:34
Speaker 1: is key for these guys. Yeah. There's not a lot
33:39
Speaker 1: I can add to what John said other than I
33:42
Speaker 1: think we all believe that if Tim Robinson place to
33:45
Speaker 1: his potential, this offensive line is dramatically better. The things
33:49
Speaker 1: that they can do with scheme with the tight end
33:52
Speaker 1: to help here or there Uh. The one thing I
33:55
Speaker 1: guess I can add is that for Gardner Minshew, who's
33:58
Speaker 1: coming into a crucial season for him, his audition to
34:02
Speaker 1: be the starter um to have guys that knows, that
34:05
Speaker 1: know him, that know his style of play. I imagine
34:08
Speaker 1: there's a benefit to him to have these five guys together. Yes,
34:14
Speaker 1: definitely a big weight on the shoulders of left tackle
34:18
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. We will see shortly if he is up
34:20
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Speaker 1: You will not see them on the field today, but
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Speaker 1: they will be back better than ever tomorrow. And it's
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Speaker 1: no secret it is very very hot out there. Brian
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Speaker 1: and John can attest to this. And I always go
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Speaker 1: into training camp never really understanding this. I'm going on
36:37
Speaker 1: my fourth season. I still don't get it why some
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Speaker 1: people are trying to be heroes and wear sweatshirts and
36:44
Speaker 1: sweat more during training camp. And I posed this question
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Speaker 1: John because we saw to me journey and on the
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Speaker 1: field now for a few days. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: call the man out, but he's definitely struggling trying to
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36:56
Speaker 1: the top of the show say it is no joke
36:58
Speaker 1: trying to get back in shape with pads on. So
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Speaker 1: I ask you this, if you had to wear pads,
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Speaker 1: even just to watch practice, how long would you last?
37:09
Speaker 1: Would I last? I last about five minutes. I'd be
37:13
Speaker 1: over with the rest of the media under the tent.
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Speaker 1: That's the place to be out there. I see you
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Speaker 1: out there being the hero, trying to show Pekab the boss. Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm out in the sun. That's silly. Get into the shade,
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Speaker 1: are you kidding? I do that so you can be
37:33
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Speaker 1: from the shade, summer kids. I am so grateful that
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