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Week 5 Hot Topics from around the NHL + Mailbag | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Bam bam Bang, your management fantasy hockey podcast.
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Woo welcome one and all to Bangor Management, The Fantasy
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Hockey Podcast with Jake Yosh and Kevin.
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That is the nickname Yosh. Yes.
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He's begging for a nickname, so. So you see what he did with this
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one is. This is why that was funny love.
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Yeah. Cool.
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Yeah. So today, today, today, today,
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Week 5, mail bag and hot topics. Or as the as the cool kids are
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calling it, hot topics and mailbag.
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Switcheroo. The cool kids have been saying
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that, yeah, also 6-7. All right, anyways.
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Nobody knows it. It's like getting way too out of
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hand. I saw a video of people had five
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guys just losing their mind over like the cashier person just
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saying or whatever. Server 67 dollars.
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Yeah, just like order numbers and even him, like he started
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yelling and bouncing around. It's wild.
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It's an award to Max Patch already.
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We're too old for this. It is.
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All right, so yeah, Week 5 Hot Topics and Mailbag.
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The link to our discord is in the Lync tree in the podcast
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link tree as well. Josh or Kevin, any blurb before
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we begin? Yeah, my blurb is if this is
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your first Hot Topic Plus Mailbag episode.
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We gather mailbag questions on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, and
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Discord. So if you want to drop us a
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question for a future episode, make sure you're leaving it
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there. When we will usually send out a
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message for the mail back that we're taking questions and also
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the hot topics. We're doing our best to try to
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pick things that are kind of spicy that people are feeling
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either way about either good or bad and what we think.
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And hopefully it's some valuable insight for you guys.
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So we should just jump right into it.
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Yeah, let's do it. Let's start with some questions.
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So why Swan 7934 on Reddit asked are Perfetti or Zuccarello worth
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stashing rostering in a 14 team league?
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Absolutely yes. I'd rather have Profeti than
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Zuccarello because I think Profeti gets PPU one when he's
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healthy. Zuccarello I think will be,
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especially in a 14 team leader. That's a pretty deep league
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unless your roster size is pretty shallow.
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But both of these guys in deeper leagues are absolutely worth the
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stache. Prefer perfectly over
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Zuccarello. I think both will have value and
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yeah, absolutely. I think Perfetti is huge this
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year when he comes back. He could be.
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It was such a. Disappointing.
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He could be like a mini party. Yeah, I mean nickel in the jar.
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Same idea and I I wouldn't say the ceiling is even higher by
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any means, but like Willard's been great 50 points and 82 last
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year for for pretty and like this was his breakout year that
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he was poised to have so big fan of his Zuke is well, I mean 14
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is a pretty deep league unless like you have a very small
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starting lineup wise 17934. I would suggest rostering and
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stashing both because there's probably not going to be too
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much on your waiver wire and these guys could produce at a
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high level. Yeah, but if you have to choose
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one, definitely Perfetti. It's going to be power play 1
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and Winnipeg got the best power play in the league last year.
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Yeah. OK, Maybach Monk on Reddit asked
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in a 12 team bangers league. I have Brady ketchup on IR.
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Which of the following guys should I drop when he comes
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back? So he listed his whole team, but
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these were the top three droppable ones.
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And yeah, so we'll go through these.
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So Voronkov, Lundell, Nelson, or lose one of his two streaming
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spots. I mean, I don't think Bron
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covers a drop at all. I think he's flying 1P1.
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He's been a banger 2. Like he's actually hitting a lot
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compared to last year. So he's the one that I least
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want to drop. Nelson has been kind of shaky
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lately where he's not really producing that much.
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So Lundell obviously has a big role.
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I think he's kind of taken a step up where we expected
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Bennett to be the valuable centre on this roster.
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With all the injuries that Florida has, it looks like
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Lundell is the guy. So if I had to choose out of
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these three, I'm dropping Nelson.
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But I don't also hate depending on how deep the league is and
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how larger roster is. Brady absolutely is worth a
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streaming spot. But I think Nelson depending on
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your league size and what the format is, he could be a waiver
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guy. So.
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Yeah, might go with Nelson as well.
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Yeah, I agree. OK, easy, let's go.
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Moving on, Andy Warhol on Reddit asked in a 12 team league where
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I really need hits and can't afford to take a bad plus minus
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player. Step one don't play with plus
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minus anyways. Is Emil Heineman a legit long
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term hold or a flash in the pan? Legit long term hold in my
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opinion. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think we're seeing what he's doing with his top
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deployment. I think he's probably cemented
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himself in that top six if the Islanders are smart, which is
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not always the case. But listen, I I think he's an
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incredible banger guy right now. Like he's not gonna have the the
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point seeing that maybe he's currently putting up, but I
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think his banger categories are here to stay and they're pretty
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late, so I like them. Yeah, the thing with Heineman is
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that, you know, the the line 1. I don't know how sad it is, but
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that doesn't really affect the bangers.
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And that's seemingly what. It also seems like while likes
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him like it seems. Yeah, exactly.
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I mean right now playing line one with Horvat and Barzel.
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So that's great, yeah. Yeah, it's amazing.
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No, I think that this is a long term hold in a Manger league.
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Absolutely. And Andy Warhol needs hits, as
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he said, so you know. About plus minus.
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That's what I'm saying is that he gets bumped to like a less
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good line and like of course the plus minus is likely.
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To I also just don't care about plus minus even if I'm in a plus
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minus league and you tell me that you wanna take a good plus
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minus player. Like you cannot select random a
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guy that's good A+ minus all the time.
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It's just never happened. So might as well just take the
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good player and take the ups and downs.
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Obviously at the end of the season, these guys are way more
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likely to end negative and some positive.
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But on a weekly basis it's so volatile that it just, it
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doesn't influence my decisional like that much.
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There's so many other categories that a good player is touching
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besides plus minus so. It's actually a good strategy
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though because people will focus on plus minus, so don't keep
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hiding them in draft players that or pick players rather off
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waivers or in trades that have bad plus minus because it is a
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category you're losing. But it's so volatile.
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So yeah, Heinen's hold and look for more Heineman like players
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that can help your team out even if they don't have good plus
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minus. Just a little nugget of
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information like in a plus minus league I love, I feel like it's
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even better to trade because less influences the rating on
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like your Yahoo or whatever so much where it's like it'll be
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OK, some guys at .86 plus and the other guys are like -.5 and
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it skews the ranking so much. Like one player could be better
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in every single category. But because the plus minus is so
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heavily skewed, the other guys ranked higher.
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And I just use that to my advantage when I'm in a plus
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minus league and be like, oh look, this guy's ranked fifty,
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give me your gut is ranked one. Old three or something player in
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the. League.
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Yeah, exactly. You can really use that in a
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trade. So I'd be looking at doing that.
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OK, still you say on Reddit and on Discord asked.
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I'm extremely high on Nikishin and I think you guys are too low
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on him. Can you read him a bit more in
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depth and tell me what you think?
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So I did look a bit more in depth.
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And first of all, his bangers are sick.
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OK? I don't think we ever denied
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that. His banger cats are great.
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Shots, hits, blocks, mostly hits.
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But no, it all looks good back there.
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Then the points right now. Yeah, it looks good back there.
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Exactly, the points for now are decent but I don't see it
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staying and I know everyone Jakey silly you say in his
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little write up about Nikishin on on Reddit and on discord.
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Everyone's like Nikisha guaranteed getting power play
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one. Look how good he looks on the
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ice. It just makes sense.
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Nikisha's not getting power play one.
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OK this year. This year, OK, he can in the
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future. He's Are you 100% certain of
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that? I will give you my 99%.
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Certainty on this one. Alright, first of all, good
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deal. First of all, what more possible
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proof do you need than literally the top 4 defenseman on this
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team injured and he's still not power play one.
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OK if he didn't get power play 1 not even a look at it now, still
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not getting it. Second of all, he's not even
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power play 2. They don't just boom boost
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someone to power play. Maybe maybe maybe now.
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I haven't. I didn't check just now but but
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he wasn't when I last checked. OK, so he's on power play too.
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OK, OK. And he's almost PK one.
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Yeah, I mean, he's a good defenseman.
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Look, I like the eye test passes.
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He's gonna be very good for you to come, especially in bangers
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leagues. All that being said, I just
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don't see him getting power play one, especially because on
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accounting, Miller's coming back within the week.
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Cosplayer. Who knows if he's ever coming
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back, but if he does, he's gonna be power play one.
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Like, there's just so many guys coming back that are gonna be
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ahead of him, and even with them gone, he's not on it.
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I don't see it. And I just don't think that the
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points upside is there. But why not?
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Like, what makes them worse than a guy who you take just for
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bangers like Aruba, who's killing it right now?
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He's banging like crazy, getting random points.
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Like I've seen questions get more points than Truba.
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His banks aren't going to be as elite.
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But no, I like him a lot as a whole in Vengers leagues.
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I just don't see what everyone else sees in terms of the
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offensive upside of this year. I think we we really won the
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offensive upside to be there. And I think we're seeing the
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opportunity. It's it's also Rod, which
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listen, if you're not super familiar with fantasy hockey,
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Rod Brenda Moore is a fantasy terrorist.
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I don't know if we can. Say that, but.
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He's he's look what he's look what happened to Shikhov line
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4P2 for it feels like multiple weeks at a time is just this
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team is not fantasy friendly except a few exceptions.
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But what I will say for Nikki, and this is how I feel about him
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personally. So if you value my opinion, then
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I'm about to give it to you. He's Why was that funny?
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Passive aggressive if you value my opinion.
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Here it is. No, no, no.
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Like if you, if you put any stock into what I'm saying like
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I'm about to share how I feel. I assume people are listening.
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They put some socks. What you're saying?
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I think we've seen his minutes significantly increased recently
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and that has positively increased all his banger cats,
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but doesn't happen for all the defensemen.
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That means he's really seizing the opportunity when it's given
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to him. He's playing 2424 minutes
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tonight. He's shooting and hitting like a
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monster and even the blocks are pretty decent.
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If you look at these numbers, if it was Cider or Wigger, you
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would be thrilled with these numbers.
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The points are going to be more scarce, like he's going to get
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4.5 points. But honestly with these bangers,
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you should be really happy with that.
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Like you're getting basically a Mackenzie Weeger minus the .15
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power play points that he gets, You know what I mean?
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Like it's it's not that much of A.
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Difference. What about when she sleeping
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comes back? That's my point right now.
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The minutes are so high, but they're missing so many
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defensemen. When Jacob Slavin comes back,
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he's their first pairing defenseman.
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He's their best defenseman. He's going to.
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He's going to have that slot. Kendra Miller also was missing
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time. Gossiper also missing time.
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I think Nikishin can end this season in that second defensive
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role, a second defensive pairing.
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Or maybe he plays alongside Slave on the 1st defensive
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pairing. Like these are these are
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potential options. All that to say, I think he's
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cemented himself as a banger presence in your fantasy
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leagues. But the points upside is just
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not there. Unless he gets that P1.
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We can tell the future. We don't know what's going to
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happen. I think that he's a rookie and
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that the more he plays, the more he gets acclimated to the team
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and the more likely he has the chance of getting people one.
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Like if all these injuries happened four months down the
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line, is Nikisha getting a chance of P1?
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I think it's way more likely than right now.
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That's kind of like where I stand.
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Is that to say that even healthy, does he have a chance
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of getting it later in the season over gossip spare?
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I think it's unlikely, but if gossipers hurt long term, maybe
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Jasper is missing the season because his tummy hurts so much,
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then I would not be surprised if she gets a shot.
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So that's that's kind of how I feel about the situation.
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But I'm really happy with where he's at.
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You got him really late in your fantasy draft.
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He's giving so much value. But let's not get ahead of
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ourselves with the points. Yeah, so here's the thing with
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how I see it. You know, Nikishin is to me.
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I'm easily the highest on him. Of us you have.
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Drafted him but like I feel like it goes me Kevin Josh as far as
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like the outlook, because I do think that the power player one
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there is potential that he will see it.
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The reason I'm scared is because offensively I think it's bangers
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are really good, very secure and I think that they're going to
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find a way to give him minutes even with slim and save and
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coming back right. It's going to take away from it
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because slave is their number one guy.
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Totally agree Kevin. The thing as though with with
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Nikishin, is that nobody knows where the top fantasy elite
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production is gonna come from. Is it gonna be danger?
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Is it going to be points? Because Rod.
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Is gonna be banned. He's doing that right.
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Now, exactly. But maybe it's gonna be insane
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points, right? And if he gets these bangers
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with the power play outside and all these points, like, it's
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amazing. Because what's his role to
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insane points? In the cage shall he had 46 and
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61 and 56 and 67. That's why people are high on
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him. So first of all, KHL production
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does not always translate to NHL production.
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Gusev case in point. And sometimes it's amazing.
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Coppers all Panarin. See you get hurt like one time
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like 3 years ago and he's like. Yeah, like Goose 7.
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Nobody knows who that. Is high on him and it was just
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such a disaster. But the the point is that like,
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he is now looking like his production in the NHL is gonna
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be really good, Nikisha. And I'm very happy to be owning
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him. I'm certainly not low by any
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means, but I don't think that there's any offensive
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reliability that you can really have on any player on Carolina,
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period. I think Aho is probably the best
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player in the NHL because if you didn't have to deal with the
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line fluctuation and all this insanity, I think skies
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literally the limit. That's.
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Exaggeration. But point is that Rod does not
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bring out fantasy production in his players offensively by any
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means. It's going to be a roller
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coaster of minutes, a roller coaster of line.
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Power play 1, I think you'll see it at some point.
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Power play 2, no power play at all.
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So while I think the Bangor floor is there and it's great,
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the offence is going to be so sporadic and all over the place.
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Roster him, absolutely, but don't expect elite offensive
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production because even glosses bear coming back.
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He should be the power play. One guy who knows?
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Like it's so unpredictable. So to me, be cautious, but
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roster him for sure. And I wouldn't say we're low on
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him, right? Like it's just we're not buying
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into the hype. Not because he can't produce,
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not because he's not a great player, and not because the KHL
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isn't going to translate to the NHL.
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Rod. It's that simple.
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It's Rod. It's the deployment that's at
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the end of the day and he's. Why you disagree with us with
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how you started that to be honest, Yeah, say yeah similar
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thoughts. OK let's move on.
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What I feel like 111 little tidbit Nikisha or Jackson Lake
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home rest of season. Nikishin.
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No, I'm going to come. You're getting your lead.
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Elite bangers. From me, I mean, I guess it's
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what you want, right? If you want the points in power
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play points, you go look, come. If you want the bangers cats,
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then you go Nikishin. Yeah, I mean, and I like Lacombe
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too, by the way. He used to be a forward for
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those who. Didn't.
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Yeah, that's the point. Jackson Lacombe.
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The former forward, yeah. The former.
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Intelligent invite 3 on Reddit asked.
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I listened to your last buy low sell high episode and sold
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Spencer Night and Jason Robertson for Mikko Rantanen.
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How do I do? You did amazing.
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This is a golden example of why everyone needs to listen to this
16:39
podcast and follow their advice and also just be a great trader
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because also, we'll give you your credit.
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You pulled it off. So great job.
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We are very proud of you and enjoy winning your league this
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year. Yeah.
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If you pulled off a crazy trade like drop us, drop us a comment
16:53
under this YouTube video, tell us where you traded or pop pop
16:56
into Discord. Just know what you were able to
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pull off because Spencer and Jason Roberts from Ranson is
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like an exceptional trade. Yeah, exceptional.
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It's exactly how you're supposed to go about the buy low sell
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high episode. So really proud of you.
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Intelligent invite 3 and then all the credit is yours.
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Yeah, and I'm not sure if you saw this because I still don't
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really know how this thing works.
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Is this thing on put a? Party, I think.
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Clap and party emojis. So whoa reaction.
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If you want to see that, you gotta watch the YouTube video
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so. Yeah, exactly.
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Also, you may not see it because it may not show up on the video,
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but just know that it was there and we heavily approve of that
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trade. OK greasy Dr. G on Reddit asked
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can I drop Ovi? I need a streaming spot plus a
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spot for Hyman coming off injury.
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Possibly. Yeah, as usual it.
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Depends on it. Depends what your team looks
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like. I highly doubt Ovie's the worst
17:51
player on your team. He's probably just the worst
17:52
performing player on your team. There's a difference and as low
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as I am on OV I don't think I'd feel comfortable dropping him.
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But it really depends how shallow the league.
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Is I was extremely concerned you were going to say, yeah, go
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ahead because you guys are super low on him, so thank God you did
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not. But yeah, look, it's
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disappointing. Hyman's going to be a better
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player for Ovi. I don't know how all of this
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league is though. I mean, that's it.
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Look, really, Doctor G joined the discord and send us your
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roster and we'll tell you who we think is more droppable than
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Ovi, or if Ovi is the most droppable.
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Would you rather have over your Hyman if you needed the one spot
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you have to choose? Hyman.
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Hyman yeah, OK Shepard Commander on Discord asked when in the
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season should we start taking playoff schedule into account.
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For example, I love having schmaltz on my roster, but I
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know Utah has A2 game week in the finals.
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First of all, Shadow Sheppard commander.
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He's super active in discord. Love you.
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Next thing on to on to serious business think playoff schedule.
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I'm always. Have to think about in my draft.
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Yeah, from the draft, I'm avoiding certain players
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depending on their playoff. Schedule I will say that also
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depends on how trade happy your league is.
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Our league there might be like 1 trade a year so not because of
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us. 5 trees and I think we were involved out of four, out of
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five of them probably, I think all of them actually.
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I was gonna say like, maybe they'll be like four or five
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trades, but the amount of trades without any of us involved is
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probably 0 every year. And, and yeah, so with that in
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mind, you can't really improve your playoff schedule through
19:29
trading. So I keep, I take it into
19:31
account a lot during the draft, but most leagues you're able to
19:33
do some trades here and there. And I think a lot of people who
19:36
don't listen to this podcast don't take into play, take
19:39
playoff schedule into account, at least not this early in the
19:41
season. So yeah, I'm always looking into
19:43
it and whenever I'm making a trade, I was thinking, am I
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netting positive on playoff games?
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At the same time, you don't have to get rid of a guy just because
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he doesn't have the best playoff schedule like Schultz on.
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Schultz is a sell high, so that's kind of its own type of
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thing. But if you have a guy who's
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playing out of his mind and it's just gonna be sustainable, you
20:00
don't have to try. And don't sell them for less
20:02
than he's worth just because of the bad playoff schedule.
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But it gives extra incentive for this person to be a sell high
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when they're also performing at this level.
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Like Nichols is not a guy who drafted high right?
20:12
You either pick him up on waivers or he was a late round
20:14
dart throw in your fantasy league and right now he's
20:17
producing as like a top 10 fantasy asset in almost every
20:19
league format. First of all, make some excel
20:22
high. Second of all, extra incentive
20:24
because of that two game week in the finals and I think you can
20:27
really cash in on smalls and get an exceptional player.
20:29
Does that mean it's gonna be bad?
20:31
No. Does that mean you can't provide
20:33
for you in a two game week in the finals?
20:34
No. But would rather have Schmaltz
20:37
win two games in the finals or Panera with four games in the
20:39
finals unless it gets traded. I'd rather Panera, you know what
20:43
I mean? And I feel like that's kind of a
20:44
you can package A2 for one which smells upgraded and playoff
20:47
schedule and player. And that's what I'm trying to do
20:50
right now. Is the perfect.
20:51
Time Keep keep in mind the playoff schedule as early as the
20:54
season starts, but don't lose value because of playoff
20:57
schedule this early. I think it's never too early.
21:00
No, I I agree. Also, though, not a lot of
21:03
people look at that. I wouldn't be surprised if like
21:06
you're the only one of your league meets who looks at that.
21:08
And it's good that you are, so keep that in mind.
21:12
But yeah, I mean, Schmaltz is a weird case right now because
21:16
he's so good, yeah. OK, Brian on Discord asked in
21:23
A10 team keeper league with goals, assists, plus minus
21:26
pimps, PowerPoint, short end points, game-winning, goals,
21:28
shots on goal, face off, win, hits, blocks, which every time
21:31
these yeah, pretty much all the categories.
21:33
Which five of nine of these players should I keep?
21:36
Keepers are chosen in January, so I'll list these names and
21:40
we're going to choose five to keep Crosby, Reinhardt, Weiger,
21:44
Daleen, Bouchard, Forsberg, Guenther, Matherson, Thomas.
21:49
I've already chosen my 5 but I don't know if you guys wanna go
21:53
first or if I should. I agree with your 5 Josh.
21:56
OK, cool. So I'll.
21:57
Just look, I'm looking at the list right now.
21:58
If you see me looking to the left because I have the.
22:00
What did you say it was? OK, so the list of nine Crosby,
22:05
Reinhart, Wieger, Dalene. Bush No ones you pick.
22:08
OK, so the ones I'm going with, I'm going with Crosby.
22:11
This guy just ages like wine and I think as long as he's in the
22:14
league, he's just going to keep. At least one more excellent year
22:17
in. Him.
22:17
Exactly. Next I'm gonna go Reinhardt,
22:19
which might seem like a hot take with how he's been doing this
22:23
year, but you gotta remember that gonna be back next year, so
22:26
that's a big thing to keep in mind.
22:28
Next is Dalene, that's an easy one to me.
22:30
He's just gonna keep getting better.
22:31
If ever the savers become good, he's gonna be even better.
22:34
Bouchard's got four years on that 10.5 mil contract power
22:37
play one with McDavid and Draisaitl, easy keep.
22:39
And I'm actually going with Guenther as the fifth one.
22:41
I think this is a guy who's already breaking out and just
22:44
gonna keep breaking out. I think Utah is gonna be a
22:45
contender for the next couple of years and he's a great 1.
22:48
And I think we can mention the four that I didn't decide to
22:50
keep and you guys can. We can see your thoughts.
22:53
I think weaker is an easy no keep.
22:55
I know it's crazy, but without going into the season, but I
22:57
think at this point there's no chance of getting power play on
22:59
next year. So I think he's just gonna be
23:01
still gonna be solid. But compared to the other, these
23:03
other guys. It's not he's close.
23:05
He's on the down the opposite boat.
23:08
The boat goes down. Yeah, boat.
23:10
Goes down exactly. Then Forsberg is probably the
23:15
closest to making this list. I just honestly, I think batsmen
23:20
over Forsberg. OK, that's interesting.
23:24
I'm assuming this is. I'm assuming this is a key
23:26
forever like. Some OK, I was thinking more
23:28
just for next year because I've but.
23:32
Yeah, some leagues are key forever where you have this guy
23:35
on your roster until you just don't want to keep him anymore.
23:37
Yeah. Forsberg next year on this
23:39
Nashville team. Probably still like everyone.
23:42
Thinks he's also on his boat. Is also going down.
23:44
Going down Forsberg, I think Batherson would would Ottawa
23:47
both going up. Yeah.
23:49
And then Thomas is super underrated and we love him a
23:52
lot, but just compared to the these other names, the fact that
23:54
he doesn't. Shoot 21 dimensional.
23:56
Yeah, he's still 1 dimensional and the Blues have a lot of
23:57
question marks. I feel like every year for the
24:00
next couple of years they're gonna be like, they could be
24:02
good, but also if they're not good, it's not gonna be the most
24:03
surprising thing. So I think that that puts him
24:07
below these top. Five.
24:08
Yeah, First of all, wagon of a team.
24:10
Good job. Second of all, change plus minus
24:13
the points next year. Trust me, you'll have a great
24:15
time. Third.
24:16
Points as a category. So we get points, goals,
24:18
assists, points specifically. Yeah, and so on.
24:21
That's for that because there's no points.
24:24
I'm honestly I, I think I, I agree with your choices except
24:31
like maybe it take Reinhart out and like put Batherson in maybe.
24:40
No. Forsberg, I think that's too.
24:42
That's too like short term. Like, I know Batherson showing
24:45
right now in Reinhardt's been really bad, but I think you have
24:48
to take into account the fact that Barkov is gonna be back.
24:51
You're right, but also though, like with Crosby, if it is a
24:53
keep forever, like do you? Do you also mentioned like in
24:57
his in his message that Crosby's like been with him since the
25:00
beginning and he wants to ride into the sunset with him?
25:03
So I. Think it's a keep forever but
25:05
like he can keep Crosby next year, that next year just like
25:07
not keep Crosby and keep another stuff that he drafted.
25:10
Yeah, OK, fine. So we have Crosby, Reinhart,
25:13
delete Bouchard and Gunther. I agree.
25:17
For me, it was closed between Gunther and Batherson.
25:19
I'll. Just yeah, I just, I'm more
25:20
hyped on Gunther. Yeah.
25:22
OK. Jodari on Discord asked what are
25:25
your favorite teams to watch this year so far other than the
25:27
haves? Also, how are you guys doing in
25:30
your main league so far? All right, first, who are you
25:33
guys enjoying watching this year?
25:35
First of all there is also pop off in discord so shout out.
25:39
Love you Tori second. Second of all I'm in second
25:43
place on our main league or league of record and I have 3
25:47
dead roster spots so after this week I probably will not be in
25:50
second anymore. I currently have 6 injuries.
25:52
Everybody in the discord knows because I've been talking about
25:55
it in the press. Channel created a channel, just
25:57
depends about it. Yes, it's a very popular
25:59
channel. I'm only in there by myself.
26:01
But yeah, I'm, I'm pretty happy honestly.
26:05
I'm like just keep looking forward to when my, when my team
26:07
is gonna be healthy. The teams I watched the most are
26:10
the Rangers and Ottawa, and I think Ottawa is my favorite just
26:12
because Ottawa, it'll be like they're going into the third
26:15
period down 70 and then they somehow like claw back five
26:18
goals and I have four of their players on my team.
26:21
So it's kind of fun to like see all the points pile up in the
26:23
third period and the the stacks. The Rangers are just depressing
26:27
to watch even though I'm heavily invested as well.
26:30
So. Ottawa Ottawa is my favorite
26:32
team to watch this year, I think.
26:33
Surprise me? What about you, cheeky favorite
26:35
team? And how so?
26:36
I feel like this is almost like an unfair thing is I have dry
26:40
saddle word skinners will obviously Edmonton, but at the
26:43
same time, and they're always so fun to watch.
26:45
So I'll try to remove the fantasy of it all because I
26:50
mean, the only guy I have on this team is unfortunately the
26:53
Toronto. But the ducks, man, like I knew
26:55
they were gonna be good and they're so, so fun to watch.
27:00
You know, they have the like their elicited goals for and
27:04
their goals against are decent as well.
27:07
Like they're just such a good team, well balanced and a bunch
27:10
of fun players. Like we were walk in our
27:11
previous episode that Cutter Gautier is just a monster this
27:16
year and Seneca has had flashes to Leo Carlson is just gonna be
27:22
so good. He's so he's amazing and the
27:25
whole team is fun. And Jackson Lacombe used to be a
27:28
forward, so even cried her right.
27:31
He's a legend at tipping the puck like in front of the net on
27:35
the power play. And Mctavish, like, you know,
27:38
this whole roster is amazing to watch.
27:40
So I'm going to go with the Ducks.
27:44
Nice. And how are you doing in our
27:45
league? How am I doing?
27:48
Yeah, I'm doing fine. Really.
27:54
I don't care about real life, Jackie.
27:58
I am tired. Actually No I'm not.
28:01
I read that wrong. I'm just fully in 3rd place.
28:04
Nice. Yeah.
28:06
So Kevin is remarkably in second.
28:09
It's not. On this week, though, I'm gonna
28:11
fall after I finally get beaten. Yeah, so.
28:14
It's been a miracle this thus far.
28:16
I am one away from the Flint, MI Mega Bowl, which is very fun.
28:21
Those who get that reference, you're welcome.
28:24
I don't even get that reference. The whole thing was that they
28:27
had to finish at #1 watch semi-pro with Will Ferrell.
28:31
Yeah, no, my team's good because it's got like, I went really
28:35
heavy and on the hits and what I did was kind of punted face offs
28:38
this year. So I'm gonna win the odd week
28:39
here and there because I'm not horrible.
28:41
But I will say it's really nice not to be constrained by that
28:43
category, which is sort of standalone.
28:46
Like if you're an elite face off winner, it doesn't mean you're
28:48
good at anything else. But if you're good at shots, if
28:52
you're good at it hits, it translates to goals, it
28:54
translates to points, translates to Pimms.
28:56
Right. So like, these things are all
28:58
correlated. And I was really happy with
28:59
that. I had a few bust picks, but I'm
29:01
expecting that to turn around and yeah, I'm really optimistic
29:05
about my team. So third place and we'll see.
29:08
We'll see what happens after this week.
29:10
I'm doing great. We didn't ask I.
29:14
Think one of the things I've actually been watching the most
29:18
this year is Buffalo because I had three of them on my roster
29:22
at one point. Now I'm down to two.
29:23
I bought 2 Thompson and Josh Stone, but honestly teaches so
29:28
fun to watch because he will just launch the puck from
29:30
anywhere. He doesn't even care like it's
29:32
just I might in the zone, OK, I'm going to shoot the puck and
29:35
then it goes in a lot of the time because he just has a
29:37
really elite shot. So I'm also excited to see what
29:39
Don does. So it's it's fun.
29:41
They're both on the 1st power play.
29:42
I just feel like at the very least they're going to be
29:45
entertaining this year, you know, like who knows if they're
29:47
gonna make the playoffs or finally, you know, be relevant,
29:50
But I think they have some good pieces and they're they're
29:52
making it fun to watch. So that's why I've been enjoying
29:54
watching. And then my main league or our
29:57
league is, I'd say it's not going great for me right now.
30:00
I'm in 7th, but I mean, I'm like 5 points back from Jake who's in
30:04
37 from whatever. So it's not like a.
30:07
Super, she's in a good spot. He just hates his team every
30:09
day. Yeah, I just have a lot of bust
30:12
picks that I'm kind of I still believe and most of them that
30:15
they'll turn it around. So I just have to be patient,
30:17
which is tough. And also, I mean, mostly I'm
30:20
going up against the most ridiculous goalie luck every
30:23
single week and only have one a goalie cat this week this year.
30:26
And I'm the only one of us three who drafted goalies at a mid,
30:30
you know, reasonable spot. And my goal isn't even playing
30:32
bad. If you're like, if I drafted bad
30:34
goalies and I was losing every week, I'd be like, OK, you know,
30:36
sucks to be me, but my goals are playing fine.
30:38
You know, like Joey, the courts killing it campers up and down.
30:40
But I you know, I believe him. Turn it around.
30:42
But I'm going against like every team.
30:44
I go up against their goalies, get help, one against Jake Allen
30:46
who the one week he was a starter and then I went against
30:48
Marks from the next week. The one week was good and I'm
30:51
going up against Coach for the weekly selfie and it's just
30:53
gonna keep going. But I mean, it's a talent.
30:56
Yeah, it is. So yeah, I think I'm just
30:58
getting some bad matchup lock, but it's gonna turn around.
31:00
It's a long season. Anyways, let's get on to our hot
31:03
topics real quick. Let's speed run these a bit.
31:05
Yeah, give me like one or two sentences about how you feel
31:09
about this player. OK, yeah, here we go, Steven
31:12
Stamkos. Mad.
31:15
He's he's a drop in almost every single format.
31:18
I mean I think people are talking about him, but just
31:21
drop. No hope, just drop, move on.
31:23
Yeah. Yeah, if he gets traded.
31:25
If he gets traded you could pick him up.
31:27
Yeah, Artemy Panarin, I think Clear Bylo I think he's gonna
31:31
get. Treated.
31:32
I think if the Rangers don't pick it up, he's getting traded
31:35
or maybe signs an extension. But if he stays in, I heard he
31:40
wants to stay in New York, but it's got to be at a discount if
31:43
he wants to do that. Maybe it'll happen because it
31:45
just doesn't wanna move. But by low, buy low.
31:48
By low, I think he might be the biggest buy low right now.
31:50
I'm not just saying because he's on my fantasy.
31:52
Team no, no, he is. He is.
31:53
He's the highest guy who's performing the.
31:54
Worst years, elite pedigree. When Troja comes back the whole
31:58
team is gonna get better so just be patient with it.
32:00
And if he's not on your team by LO.
32:01
Yeah. All right, Next we've got Dawson
32:04
Mercer. This is such a hot name.
32:05
So hard. Everyone's talking about it
32:07
these days. Yeah.
32:10
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, I will say I was not
32:17
a Mercer believer for the longest time.
32:19
I thought when Nathan came back they were gonna put him on power
32:21
play one. I didn't think it made sense,
32:23
but it was all of last year what Keith did.
32:24
And I don't love, I don't think he always makes the most sense
32:27
in terms of how he deploys stuff.
32:29
But it seems like for now he's doing that kind of like 2 power
32:31
play, 1 units where they alternate Dougie and Mercer for
32:35
Luke, Hughes and Meyer, like back and forth like every second
32:38
game. But the fact is that means
32:39
Mercer is getting properly on every second game.
32:41
He's playing short handed, getting short handed points and
32:43
even strength rate. I have turned around.
32:46
I'm on the Dawson Mercer train now.
32:48
He's still so high though. For sure, for sure sell high,
32:51
but I don't think he's gonna be one of those guys who just
32:53
becomes a drop. At some he's not a waiver wire
32:55
father, which he's been for multiple previous years like
32:58
he's just been gotta stream when he's hot and that's it and he
33:00
hasn't been hot a lot. I think now he's his production
33:03
is actually kind of sustainable, like the foundations that for
33:06
it. Obviously right now he's
33:08
performing an elite, elite level and you can probably get a good
33:10
pick. Like people are hype on Dawson
33:12
Mercer. Yeah, I saw in the discord
33:14
people were talking about how they were able to trade Mercer
33:16
for really big name players. So yeah, if you have mercy on
33:20
your team, do your due diligence and see what you can get for
33:23
him, yeah. He hasn't missed a game in his
33:25
career. That's another edition that you
33:27
can. Doesn't mean anything.
33:28
Children had a missed a game in three years and he missed 4.
33:31
Weeks, I know, but he's not on your team, Mercer, so I'll be
33:33
fine. I'll trade for him and ruin
33:36
everybody's log. And the rankings are skewed
33:40
because he had two short handed points which are likely going
33:42
to. Count for something if you have
33:43
short handed points in your league it'll.
33:44
Yeah. So, so you, you should sell him,
33:47
but I mean, yeah, he's not gonna be away required this year.
33:50
There's no way. OK, Next we've got Nazim Kadri.
33:54
I mean, I think he's definitely getting traded this year.
33:56
He's, I think he's probably going to be the most sought
33:58
after second see on the trade market.
34:00
I just, I think he's gonna do way worse this year than he did
34:03
last year and in previous years. Yeah, The issue is he has three
34:07
years on his contract, so whatever team is going to trade
34:10
for him has to be ready to take that cap hit for the next three
34:12
years as well. That's why people are saying he
34:14
could play for Montreal like he does not fit Montreal is trying
34:17
to do for the next three years. Unless like Calgary retains, but
34:21
if they would be willing to do that.
34:23
Yeah, but for fantasy, what are you?
34:25
Are you trying to trade or just holding until he does something
34:28
good and trying to trade or how do you?
34:29
Feel whenever, like I said, never sell when they're at their
34:32
lowest wait, he's gonna have a hot tree at some point He's
34:34
still a good player. Calgary just sucks and when he
34:37
starts stringing together a couple games we.
34:38
Put things on hold street right now if I'm being.
34:41
Real is, he's not been that bad this year.
34:44
No, he hasn't been that bad. I just don't see a bright
34:46
outlook, especially compared to last year.
34:48
Yeah, and he's not the type of guy to make something out of
34:50
absolutely nothing, so I'm not expecting too much.
34:52
Yeah. So I would definitely sell high.
34:54
I think if you have him right now, he's a cell height.
34:56
So as you're listening to this, if you have Claudia on your
34:58
roster, like go see if you can get an upgrade at centre.
35:00
Yeah, yeah. Alright.
35:01
Last one, Z Boolean, Brock Faber, Jared Spurgeon.
35:05
What is going on with this Minnesota power play one?
35:07
They started off the season so hot.
35:08
William had like 4 power play points in the first four games
35:11
and then they started sucking. He got bumped off Spurgeons now
35:15
power play one but does nothing with it.
35:17
Faber had two crazy games, not that he was on power play one,
35:20
but it was looking. Maybe he would get it right now.
35:22
As it stands, it's Spurgeon power play one Faber and William
35:24
powerfully too, but there's even talks of bullion being sent down
35:27
to the AHL. What do you make of all this?
35:30
Who's the guy to get? Is any of them the guy to get?
35:32
First of all, if you listen to the news and updates episode
35:36
previous to this, if you haven't goes into it because we
35:39
referenced this exact topic. So you have to really stay
35:42
tuned. But I'm just not interested in
35:45
any of them, if I'm being real. I think Boom was really exciting
35:48
at the early season because the Minnesota power play felt like
35:51
it was scoring out will. They had like I don't know how
35:53
many power play. I think they were like 80% to
35:55
start the season. It was crazy.
35:56
But right now we're really looking for a spark and I don't
35:59
think it's any of these defensemen.
36:01
I think William is locked experience.
36:03
I think Favor lacks the offensive touch and I think
36:05
Spurgeon is just like a pillar out there and he does not have
36:07
like I just. Told her in a good way, not like
36:10
a pillar of our community like. No, like a like a like a orange,
36:15
like an orange cone. Yeah.
36:17
I'm just not thrilled about any of the defensemen on P1.
36:19
And even if they have P1, if I have them on my roster and then
36:22
sell them on that, like none of these guys are not really trade
36:24
bait. Like nobody really wants them on
36:26
their. Teams I see it, Spurgeon has P1
36:28
and I still don't think it's possible so he can only get
36:31
worse. I would not grab him at all
36:34
quite honestly, get sent down the hill for some points.
36:36
Yeah, he has literally 0 back cats and he's not powerful one
36:40
right now. He's a guy.
36:41
If you had him on your team, I would feel very comfortable
36:43
dropping him and like you can watch list him and if he gets
36:46
power play 1 and start popping off.
36:47
You can try and grab him. But even if you miss out on it,
36:49
I don't think it's the end of the world.
36:51
And then the one I'm most likely to take A chance on, which I did
36:54
and I currently have him is Faber just because I like the
36:56
shot block floor. So even if he put up those two
36:59
crazy games and then hasn't gotten a point his last two
37:01
games, but he's still shooting and blocking.
37:03
So it's not like someone who's putting up was like a boomerang
37:05
surgeon. I do think there is a chance you
37:08
can get power play 1, and I think he can actually do
37:09
something with it. He is the highest paid
37:11
defenseman on the team and the best defenseman on the team.
37:14
He's just not like a power play guy.
37:15
That's just not, that's not his game.
37:17
Maybe he grows into it, but. Yeah.
37:19
They clearly don't believe that much into it because they
37:22
haven't really been giving him the opportunity.
37:23
Why person there when they have a young defenseman try to have
37:27
growing pains there, you know? For sure.
37:28
I just think that if they keep sucking, they're going to have
37:30
to shake things up so. They're perfect team to trade or
37:35
a power play 1 defenseman country deadline like that's
37:38
Rasmus Anderson, Eric Carlson, like these are the names that
37:41
could be floated around the country deadline for this team.
37:44
For sure this situation is wild and if it's up to me I go Faber
37:50
Boyum Spurgeon just because it leaves boolean may may have some
37:53
potential even though we could end up in the AHL.
37:55
Spurgeons nothing really to roster in fantasy and Faber
37:59
actually do like as far as shots, blocks, combo and I think
38:03
that for the majority until they do trade for someone paper
38:06
actually may get it back. I wouldn't be surprised.
38:09
If I choose one in favor, but I'm not psyched.
38:12
About it, I'm not happy about it.
38:14
Not mad, No vendettas Kevin, but.
38:17
Robertson exactly. Yeah, so that's how I feel about
38:23
that. Cool.
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Five stars. If you made it this far and
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you're actually watching this YouTube video, comment five
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stars. If you comment five stars on
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YouTube, the next time we do this, Josh is gonna wear a
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T-shirt or something that has hockey oriented.
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Yes, I have the perfect one in mind.
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Yeah. I don't know what is alright.
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Take it away, Ernie. Bobbi to Bound Bound banger
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management fantasy hockey podcast.
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Whoa. Wow.
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Wow, wow. Wow, wow, the students become
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the grasshopper. Bingo.