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Speaker 3: We're excited about that. We're also excited about the Lebron
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Speaker 3: James sweep steaks. Right now, what is going on? There's
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Speaker 3: a whiteboard involved on toll Taylor. What is happening with
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Speaker 3: a whiteboard?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Rich Paul on his podcast Game Over with
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Speaker 4: Max Kellerman, tell you what Rich Paul knows how to
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Speaker 4: do theatrics because he rolled out a whiteboard with Max
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Speaker 4: and the whiteboard just had realistic Lebron suitors.
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Speaker 5: It says, to paint.
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Speaker 4: The picture of what this whiteboard looks like, it says
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Speaker 4: Lebron in the middle, and then stemming out from the
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Speaker 4: word Lebron in a circle, it's it's the other four
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Speaker 4: starting fours from a bunch of contenders. So it's the
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Speaker 4: heat starting for plus Lebron, the Timberwolf, starting for plus Lebron,
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Speaker 4: the Calves, the Nuggets, and then the seventy six ers.
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Speaker 4: And then on the outside of all those those are
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Speaker 4: I would presume, presume the most likely.
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Speaker 3: And then on the other side, wait, wait, wait, hold on,
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Speaker 3: give me that first layer again, give me the first
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Speaker 3: layer again.
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Speaker 4: It's the heat starting for the Timberwolf, starting for the Calves,
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Speaker 4: the Nuggets, and then the seventy six ers.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so those are like the top five essentially, And
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Speaker 3: what Rich Paul is doing like a sports radio host,
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Speaker 3: and I'm proud of him for doing it like this.
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Speaker 3: He is filled in that fifth spot with Lebron and
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Speaker 3: seeing where it looks, which one looks the best, right.
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Speaker 4: Correct, And then on the outside of that circle, that
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Speaker 4: ring So.
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Speaker 1: This is outside looking in. How about that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, on the outside, it just says some keywords like Mavericks, Spurs, Nicks,
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Speaker 4: Brad Stevens plus Jason Tatum, Steph and Draymond. So I'm
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Speaker 4: not even sure if that inside ring is the five
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Speaker 4: most likely because you would presume that, you would presume
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Speaker 4: the Warriors are much higher. I just don't think Rich
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Speaker 4: Paul knows who the other starters would be. He's just like,
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Speaker 4: we know they got Steph, we know they got Draymond,
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Speaker 4: they would have Lebron, We'll figure out the rest.
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Speaker 3: Right and poor zingis but he's portant for you know,
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Speaker 3: half the games. It's a fluid situation, is what he's
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Speaker 3: trying to tell you. So what did he do with
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Speaker 3: the Celtics here? He just did Stevens plus Tatum equals
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Speaker 3: Lebron essentially.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just says Brad Stevens and Jason Tatum, No,
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Speaker 4: no mention of Mitchell Robinson.
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Speaker 3: But they left out Bayton Brichard, who's supposed to be
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Speaker 3: the next Jalen Brunson. And they left at that Hugo
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Speaker 3: Gonzales guy who better be the next Bob Coosey.
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Speaker 4: I think it's because like when when you get Lebron,
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Speaker 4: Like Yaxel Lendenberg on the Warriors right now is thinking, man,
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Speaker 4: it would be awesome if we got Lebron James, and
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Speaker 4: then Lebron gets there and he goes, Yaxel, I hate
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Speaker 4: to tell you this, you're not part of these plants,
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Speaker 4: or you.
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Speaker 3: Were the starting three and now you're not. You're coming
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Speaker 3: off the bench.
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Speaker 4: It's so weird though, looking at this list of teams,
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Speaker 4: because the Timberwolves make sense because it seems like the
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Speaker 4: Timberwolves are that piece away from elevating to being a
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Speaker 4: serious title contender. But I can't really see Lebron going
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Speaker 4: to Minnesota because it feels like he would almost have
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Speaker 4: to be like Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball's babysitter.
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Speaker 3: You're right, Plus it's Minnesota. Yeah, Like I think we
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Speaker 3: have to factor in geography here, So would be LaMelo Ball,
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Speaker 3: it'd be Rudy Gobert, it'd be Anthony Edwards and Lebron James.
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Speaker 3: M McDaniels, right, Yeah, I mean that's a pretty good
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Speaker 3: starting five. But again, Lebron at this advanced age is
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Speaker 3: not you know, he doesn't want a babysit, and there
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Speaker 3: are like three guys on that roster, just on the
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Speaker 3: starting five alone, LaMelo ball Go Baar in particular, in
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Speaker 3: which he has to babysit those guys.
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Speaker 4: It seems like the one consistent trend is when you
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Speaker 4: read off four starters and then you say Lebron the
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Speaker 4: next sentences, that would be a pretty good starting five.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's try it.
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Speaker 5: Like, let me do the Nuggets for example.
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Speaker 4: Okay, do the Nuggets, Jamal Murray, right, Cam Johnson, Lebron,
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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, Napole Jokic.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 3: The way you need to do this is give me
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Speaker 3: the four and then insert Lebron. Okay, all right, but
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Speaker 3: that's so we're past the Nuggets that I get it.
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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good option for Lebron James. All right,
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Speaker 3: who's the next option? Of those five teams he had
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Speaker 3: circling around Lebron, which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: He did it on a whiteboard. I'm so happy.
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Speaker 4: Davion Mitchell, Andrew Wiggins, Jannis bam Adebaio, Lebron James.
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Speaker 1: Not bad. But they're out. I'm telling you right now.
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Speaker 1: Heat are out. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't see it, do you see it?
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good starting five. I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: it's not a starting five that couldn't make it to
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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Man, Miami, that's how he's gonna land the land the plane.
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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't see it.
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Speaker 4: I just if you swapped Miami's uniforms with Minnesota's uniforms,
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Speaker 4: I don't even think we would be talking about Miami,
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Speaker 4: same players, same players.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what are you saying here, if if, if we,
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Speaker 3: if we moved Miami's team to Minnesota and Minnesota's team
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Speaker 3: to Miami, I don't even think we would be considering
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Speaker 3: the heat. You're right, yeah, now in Minnesota, Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 3: well I consider Minnesota's players in Miami, Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 1: He'd be willing to babysit in Miami.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's babysitting plus being in Minnesota that is
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Speaker 3: really hampering their chances of getting Lebron.
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Speaker 1: You're right about that. That's funny.
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Speaker 4: The other starting fives are Donovan, Mitchell, James Harden, Evan Mobley,
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Speaker 4: Jared Allen, Lebron.
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Speaker 1: James in the East.
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Speaker 4: It makes sense because you're finishing your career where it started,
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Speaker 4: but at the same time, you can't convince me that
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Speaker 4: Lebron wants to spend his last year's playing basketball with
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Speaker 4: James Harden, who he's not a winning player.
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Speaker 3: There are James Harden trade away from having a chance
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Speaker 3: of getting Lebron.
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Speaker 1: James, I am totally with you on this. I'm not certain.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you hear all the stories about the you know,
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Speaker 3: the camera crew, the documentary him documenting all of this
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Speaker 3: his final couple of seasons here it seems like the
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Speaker 3: story book finish to go back to Cleveland and where
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Speaker 3: you started, where you're from.
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Speaker 1: But I'm with you. James Harden's getting in the way. Yes.
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Speaker 4: And then the final team in this circle, and why
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Speaker 4: this situation feels so fluid. The Sixers didn't have Jalen
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Speaker 4: Brown a couple of days ago, and now theoretically since
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Speaker 4: adding Jalen Brown there, they're vaulting their way up to
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Speaker 4: the top of this list of contender teams.
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Speaker 1: It's what I told you yesterday.
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Speaker 3: It's why there are a number of reasons that trading
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown to the Sixers was head scratching from the
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Speaker 3: Celtics standpoint, inside the division, inside the conference. You made
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Speaker 3: the team already beat you Betteth and you, but you
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Speaker 3: also gave them a chance of getting Lebron James, and
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Speaker 3: you took yourself out of Lebron's sweepstakes. Although Brad Stevens
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Speaker 3: plus Jadams Jason Datum, he pulls Lebron James, so they're
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Speaker 3: on the outside looking in. But before that trade, I
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Speaker 3: feel like they had a much better shot. They would
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Speaker 3: have been one of those five teams. And now Philly
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Speaker 3: is and so that's part of the reason as to
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Speaker 3: why that deal was so head scratching. Philadelphia seems like
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Speaker 3: a great an option to me, It really does.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the only worry I think you have with Philadelphia
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Speaker 4: is just how many personalities you have coming in Where
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Speaker 4: Jalen Brown rumored wanted to have his own team and
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Speaker 4: now he's going to a spot in Philadelphia where you
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Speaker 4: have an established player like Joel Embiid who has his
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Speaker 4: injury concerns, you have Tyrese Maxie, and then you're you're
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Speaker 4: adding Lebron James to that. I think the most interesting
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Speaker 4: development today has been it now seems like the Warriors,
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Speaker 4: who when Lebron announced that he wasn't going to return
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Speaker 4: to La it seemed like the Warriors were in pole position,
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Speaker 4: the front runners to get him. They were the betting
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Speaker 4: favorite to get him. And now you're listening to Anthony Slater,
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Speaker 4: who's the Warriors ESPN reporter. He said he's hearing a
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Speaker 4: growing belief from the Warriors that they don't necessarily believe
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Speaker 4: that they're at the top of the short list. And
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Speaker 4: chams on Get Up this morning said, the big domino
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Speaker 4: with the Warriors is trying to get a player like
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Speaker 4: Anthony Davis. You can bring in Lebron James and Anthony
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Speaker 4: Davis as a package deal. Short of that, they're not
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Speaker 4: really looked at right now at the top of this list, right.
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Speaker 1: And it makes sense.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, listen, if you get to finish
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Speaker 3: it off and winning as a priority, you don't just
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Speaker 3: go play with your friends. And so that's why the
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown trade was so important. It put Philadelphia, who
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Speaker 3: was not in the conversation. It it vaulted them into
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Speaker 3: the conversation. And Anthony Davis ain't going the Golden State
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Speaker 3: because Washington has closed the door on that unless someone
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Speaker 3: can figure something out. And I'm with you, like, Golden
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Speaker 3: State's not getting Lebron James, although it would have been
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Speaker 3: fun to see Lebron in step play again.
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Speaker 4: And when we're talking about starting for we're starting Force
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Speaker 4: plus Lebron. Yes, Stu, you still can't convince me that Brunson, Lebron,
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Speaker 4: mckel Bridges, og Ananobi, Karl, Anthony Towns doesn't make the
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Speaker 4: most sense from trying to get to a team that's
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Speaker 4: that's contender status.
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Speaker 1: You read my mind. I am telling you right now.
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Speaker 1: I know that we're happy.
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Speaker 3: That we wanted an NBA Josh is sitting right, He's
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Speaker 3: the guy coming off the bench if Lebron comes there.
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Speaker 5: He's coming off the bench.
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Speaker 4: But I think you pitch it at Josh Hart saying
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Speaker 4: Lebron's forty one years old. Yeah, he's not going to
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Speaker 4: be playing a ton of minutes. We're gonna be trying
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Speaker 4: to keep him as fresh as possible for this playoff run.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and we'll try to keep o g fresh, and
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Speaker 3: we'll try to keep mckel bridges fresh because we're coming
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Speaker 3: off a championship season. He'll get some starts essentially, is
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Speaker 3: what you're saying, right correct. Okay, so listen, I know
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Speaker 3: we're happy. I know we won an NBA championship. I
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Speaker 3: know if I go the rest of my lifetime without
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Speaker 3: winning another.
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Speaker 1: I'm good. That was then, this is now. I'm selfish.
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Speaker 3: I waited so long to get that title, and that
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Speaker 3: title felt so good. And the Knicks are inside a
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Speaker 3: championship window here where the Eastern Conference and the NBA
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Speaker 3: is wide open. Philadelphia is an improved team, Cleveland gonna
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Speaker 3: be decent, Indiana gets Halliburton back. I am telling you
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Speaker 3: right now, I am no longer okay five with just
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Speaker 3: one NBA title. That fucking thing felt so good. I
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Speaker 3: want to win like five of them. I'm not joking.
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Speaker 3: And this is a situation where I feel like the
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Speaker 3: Knicks have to put the full court press on Lebron,
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Speaker 3: that they give him the best option of winning an
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Speaker 3: NBA title and what it feels like to win an
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Speaker 3: NBA title in that building, for that fan base, for
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Speaker 3: that city. They need to start selling Lebron on that.
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Speaker 3: Otherwise my fear is he's going to go to Philadelphia
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Speaker 3: and he's going to tear our hearts out. That is
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Speaker 3: the best, absolute best, And here's the best.
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Speaker 1: Part about it. Lebron needs us.
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Speaker 3: We don't need Lebron, and so that makes me feel
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Speaker 3: better about going out and getting Lebron and I think
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Speaker 3: guys like Brunch, Bruntset, and og who respect the game,
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Speaker 3: the history of the game, or respect Lebron James, they
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Speaker 3: would love to get Lebron a fifth title.
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Speaker 1: They would love it Stu.
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Speaker 4: In this podcast with Max Kellerman and Rich Paul, Rich
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Speaker 4: Paul expanded on the Knicks, and this was his exact
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Speaker 4: quote about the Knicks. Nicks hadn't won a title, there
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Speaker 4: would be no board. He'd be going to the Knicks. Oh,
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Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson would literally have to pick up the phone
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Speaker 4: and say, hey man, there's no issue with me. The
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Speaker 4: Knicks have checked in. That's what he said.
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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I hope it's just Brunton making the decisions,
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Speaker 3: don't you. I mean, because Philadelphia had the running by
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, he said.
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Speaker 5: He's okay with it.
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Speaker 3: Where Jalen Brown has been there for a minute in
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia and he had to okay them going after Lebron James,
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Speaker 3: which is laugh out loud funny. Lebron James is gonna
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Speaker 3: average more points than Jalen Brown if he comes there.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I also want to say it's easy for
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Speaker 4: Rich Paul to say, now if the Knicks hadn't want
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Speaker 4: a title, there'd be no board. He'd be going to
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Speaker 4: the Knicks, because it's it's hard to believe Lebron would
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Speaker 4: have picked the one team that he's never picked before
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Speaker 4: and never seemed up for that challenge. And then when
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Speaker 4: Rich Paul is saying, Jalen Brunson would literally have to
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Speaker 4: pick up the phone and say, hey man, there's no
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Speaker 4: issue with me. I think Jalen Brunson makes that call.
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Speaker 4: To your point of Jalen Brunton understanding that Lebron James
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Speaker 4: on a VET minimum contract is a significant improvement over
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Speaker 4: anybody else that you could bring into this team on
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Speaker 4: a VET minimum contract. But if Jaln Brunson makes that call,
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Speaker 4: it's it's to give his blessing, not make a pitch.
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Speaker 4: If Brunson has to convince Lebron on why he has
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Speaker 4: to come to New York, Lebron could kick Rocks, the
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Speaker 4: guy who finally delivered the city a title after stars
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Speaker 4: like Lebron James passed up the opportunity time and time again.
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Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson doesn't have to sell anybody on why they
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Speaker 4: should be a Nick.
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Speaker 3: It's such a great point. This is a different phone call.
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Speaker 3: This is Brunson calling Lebron and saying, not saying, hey,
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Speaker 3: we need you, come save us, come win us the title.
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Speaker 3: It's hey, let me help you win a title. Let
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Speaker 3: me help you win a fifth. I'm cool with it.
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Speaker 3: Everyone's cool with it. I've checked with everyone else. We
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Speaker 3: don't need you, you need us, Lebron. I love you,
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Speaker 3: I respect you. You want to win a.
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Speaker 1: Fifth time, let me be the guy that delivers that
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 3: It's not him calling begging Lebron to come, It's it's
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Speaker 3: Jalen saying, hey, come here, we'll help you.
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Speaker 1: We'll win a title. We'll do it here.
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Speaker 3: And then he's thinking to himself as he's saying that
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Speaker 3: if he doesn't come here, we still have a chance
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Speaker 3: of winning a title.
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Speaker 1: F you, I mean you.
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Speaker 4: Mentioned people being cool with Lebron coming to New York
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Speaker 4: and right now the conversation online could not be more
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Speaker 4: divided between Knicks fans because there's there's Knicks fans saying
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Speaker 4: we want Lebron James because he makes us more likely
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Speaker 4: to repeat as champions, and there's people like the Salacatas
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Speaker 4: of the world saying we don't need him, we don't
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Speaker 4: want him, he had his chance.
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Speaker 3: But Taylor, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity
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Speaker 3: to get a guy coming off twenty two points, six
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Speaker 3: rebounds five This is the game. Who was willing to
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Speaker 3: pay to play for the league minimum. It's a once
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Speaker 3: and a lifetime opportunity. And if you're the Knicks, and
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Speaker 3: if you're Nick, don't be content. Let's get more championships.
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Speaker 4: Anybody saying Lebron doesn't make the Knicks significantly better, they're
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Speaker 4: just lying to yourself. If your argument is you don't
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Speaker 4: want the circus that comes with Lebron James and every
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Speaker 4: headline becomes Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, that's a fair conversation, I think.
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Speaker 5: But from a basketball standpoint.
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Speaker 4: There's no debate that adding Lebron to your starting lineup,
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Speaker 4: while preventing him from going to another contenter like Philadelphia,
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Speaker 4: light Boss, like Miami, Yes, increases the next chance at
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Speaker 4: repeating That's just the reality of the situation.
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Speaker 3: So I do believe Rich Paul had the Knicks not
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Speaker 3: won a championship.
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Speaker 1: It's what I've been saying for years.
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Speaker 3: If Lebron wants to land this thing correctly and end
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Speaker 3: it correctly, go to New York and help them win
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Speaker 3: their first championship. Well, that didn't happen. We won our
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Speaker 3: first championship. We didn't need Lebron to do it. That
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Speaker 3: ship is sailed. That's why I think Philadelphia might be
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Speaker 3: the favorites here because Lebron wants to view himself as
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Speaker 3: the reason that a team got to the NBA Finals
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Speaker 3: and an NBA Championship. But he's also forty one, going
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Speaker 3: to be forty two, and he's chasing ghost and he's
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Speaker 3: chasing Jordan. So he needs to ask himself, where is
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Speaker 3: the more likely spot for me to win an NBA
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Speaker 3: Championship And where is it going to have more impact
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Speaker 3: and more meaning for my resume.
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Speaker 1: And my legacy? And that answer is easy. It's New York.
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Speaker 3: Like if he goes out and helps them get to
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Speaker 3: back to back titles or wins two titles, god forbid
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Speaker 3: in New York with the Knicks, people are I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: start having the conversation about Lebron and Michael.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying it about that. Wow, that
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Speaker 1: was heavy at six, I mean.
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Speaker 4: But also the New York factor. I think we gave
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Speaker 4: Jalen Brunston multiple rings for winning in New York.
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Speaker 3: We did, but he did it without Lebron, and so
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Speaker 3: like Lebron had that opportunity. Had Lebron come last year
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Speaker 3: and they still won the NBA title, Lebron would have
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Speaker 3: went right from four to six. But that opportunity has passed. Okay,
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Speaker 3: we don't need Lebron. Let me be very clear.
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Speaker 1: I want him.
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Speaker 3: He makes our team better, but we may still win
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Speaker 3: a title without Lebron.
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Speaker 1: James, We've already done it. Lebron should listen.
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Speaker 3: He should be on his hands and knees begging Jalb
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Speaker 3: Brunson to come to New York. Anythink short of that?
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Speaker 3: I don't want him, havelf of that? Yeah, we don't
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Speaker 3: need him. I mean we have Landry Shamman.
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Speaker 1: What am I doing here?
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Speaker 3: Like he's gonna beg us Please jalb please let me
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Speaker 3: come there.
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Speaker 1: Please.
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Speaker 3: He's probably thinking I'm gonna go to Philadelphia and rip
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Speaker 3: that guy's heart out.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: What do you think you think he would consider New York?
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Speaker 5: I think New York is.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he would have ever came to New
17:45
Speaker 4: York like I think Rich Paul is posturing saying if
17:48
Speaker 4: the Knicks had n't won a title, he would have
17:51
Speaker 4: gone there, because that's the easiest thing in the world
17:54
Speaker 4: to say. After the Knicks actually win a title and
17:56
Speaker 4: all the pressure goes off you of delivering that title.
18:01
Speaker 4: I do think he does look at it from the
18:03
Speaker 4: sense of the Kevin Durant factor of when Kevin Durant
18:08
Speaker 4: goes to the Warriors, a team that very clearly didn't
18:11
Speaker 4: need him, and you see the backlash that comes when
18:15
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant wins a title. I think Lebron would face
18:18
Speaker 4: similar pushback if he did go to the Knicks and
18:22
Speaker 4: the pressure of trying to repeat as champions. You're looking
18:26
Speaker 4: around the league and it's like there aren't like too
18:29
Speaker 4: many like Crystal Clear. This team becomes an instant title contender.
18:35
Speaker 4: This team doesn't have the burden of Lebron needing to
18:40
Speaker 4: carry a lot of the pressure at forty one years old.
18:44
Speaker 4: The more I think about, like from a straight basketball fit,
18:48
Speaker 4: I think Denver is like a pretty interesting option where
18:52
Speaker 4: you have a floor spacer like Cam Johnson, you have
18:55
Speaker 4: Christian Bron, you have Christian Brown off the bench. You
18:58
Speaker 4: have somebody like Jamal Murray who's like a fringe All
19:02
Speaker 4: Star All NBA type player, and then you have Nicole
19:05
Speaker 4: jokicch who is one of the best passers and one
19:08
Speaker 4: of the best bigs in the NBA. There's if you
19:12
Speaker 4: present every team for me and say this is where
19:14
Speaker 4: Lebron signs, I could see about six sevent teams in
19:19
Speaker 4: this NBA.
19:20
Speaker 3: If I'm being honest and we're filling out starting five's
19:24
Speaker 3: Minnesota seems to be the best.
19:28
Speaker 1: We're Philadelphia.
19:29
Speaker 3: I do think there needs to be so Denver is
19:33
Speaker 3: a good option. I don't know if it's sexy enough,
19:35
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think that's important
19:37
Speaker 3: to Lebron. Lebron and Rich Paul they're storytellers, man. They
19:41
Speaker 3: like to write stories. They're calculated, they think about this stuff.
19:44
Speaker 3: Where is this championship for me, if indeed it's my
19:47
Speaker 3: last championship run, Where's it going to have the most impact?
19:51
Speaker 1: And I'm not certain anyone cares, even with Lebron.
19:53
Speaker 3: If Denver wins another championship, Minnesota is probably the best,
19:58
Speaker 3: top top best starting five. But there's no there's really
20:03
Speaker 3: no sex appeal to it. It's not sexy to Lebron James.
20:06
Speaker 3: It's going to Minnesota, of all places spending a year
20:09
Speaker 3: there and winning a title. For me, there are three
20:12
Speaker 3: obvious choices. It is Philadelphia, It's the Nicks, and it's Cleveland.
20:20
Speaker 3: Those are the three places. Cleveland because it's a storybook ending.
20:23
Speaker 3: New York because it's New York. Philadelphia is a storied
20:26
Speaker 3: franchise who hasn't won a championship in a long long time.
20:29
Speaker 3: And Lebron could be perceived as the guy that goes
20:32
Speaker 3: to Philadelphia and helps Joel Embiid finally get to the
20:35
Speaker 3: finals and finally win a championship. And I think he
20:38
Speaker 3: thrives on that kind of thing. He really does, So
20:40
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna come down to those three teams
20:43
Speaker 3: if he's purely looking at it from winning a title
20:45
Speaker 3: and a basketball standpoint, I'm not certain Minnesota is not
20:49
Speaker 3: the best starting five when you insert Lebron James into
20:52
Speaker 3: that starting five.
20:53
Speaker 4: You know, the craziest thing in all of this is
20:57
Speaker 4: that we don't really have a finish line in sight
21:01
Speaker 4: where it's like.
21:02
Speaker 1: He's gonna milk it.
21:03
Speaker 4: He's going to milk thisf We have no earthly idea
21:08
Speaker 4: on when Lebron is even thinking about signing this contract. It.
21:11
Speaker 4: We're most likely just gonna get dropped with this on
21:13
Speaker 4: a random day when we're least expecting it, and you're
21:16
Speaker 4: you're looking at how fluid the situation is where a
21:19
Speaker 4: team like Philadelphia comes in at the last second, like
21:22
Speaker 4: there might be a team out there that were that
21:26
Speaker 4: doesn't have the pieces together right now. It's like, could
21:30
Speaker 4: another team get in here all of a sudden.
21:33
Speaker 3: Well, it would take Anthony Davis, right, most of the
21:35
Speaker 3: big guys have signed already, correct, correct, So would take
21:39
Speaker 3: a trade for Anthony Davis, Edgecomb, Maxi Embiid. I'm nervous
21:44
Speaker 3: about this man, I really am, because he could see
21:46
Speaker 3: himself there Edgecomb, Maxie Embid, Jalen Brown and Lebron James.
21:54
Speaker 3: I take back what I said about Minnesota. Okayet, that's
21:59
Speaker 3: the best of the star fives available. You would agree
22:02
Speaker 3: the starting five when you would sert Lebron into it,
22:05
Speaker 3: the starting five of Philadelphia or the Knicks, combined with
22:09
Speaker 3: the storytelling, the sex appeal, the impact it would have.
22:13
Speaker 1: I keep saying sex. I don't know why I'm doing that,
22:16
Speaker 1: but you would agree. I think those are the two teams.
22:19
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone else He's not gonna team
22:21
Speaker 3: up with Jason Tatum plus Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens a
22:24
Speaker 3: playing Brad Stevens is the guy who traded Jalen Brown
22:27
Speaker 3: away for a bunch of stuff.
22:29
Speaker 4: I mean, if he went to Philadelphia, the biggest winner
22:33
Speaker 4: in all of that would be that one analytics guy
22:36
Speaker 4: who told Bobby Marks that Jalen Brown is the seventh
22:39
Speaker 4: best player on a team. Because you're starting to look
22:42
Speaker 4: at that Philadelphia roster and it's like, if everybody is
22:45
Speaker 4: playing their best basketball, Okay, Jalen Brown is probably closer
22:48
Speaker 4: to seven than he is to one.
22:50
Speaker 1: Yes, do you think if Lebron? Yes? Correct?
22:53
Speaker 3: Do you think if Lebron goes to the Knicks and
22:55
Speaker 3: they don't win? Nick fans are gonna blame Lebron? We
22:57
Speaker 3: didn't need them, told you what are we doing?
23:00
Speaker 1: Uh?
23:01
Speaker 3: Was trying to play all the sides here because I
23:02
Speaker 3: want to see if there's downside to go into.
23:04
Speaker 1: New York STU.
23:05
Speaker 4: People will blame Lebron for ruining the chemistry of this
23:10
Speaker 4: Knicks team.
23:11
Speaker 3: Right, took Hard out of the starting lineup, Right.
23:13
Speaker 4: If they don't win the title? And what that what
23:16
Speaker 4: that discredits and doesn't think about this. Knicks chemistry was
23:22
Speaker 4: not that good as early as March.
23:25
Speaker 3: Where Taylor we had they were down to one to
23:28
Speaker 3: CJ McCollum. I mean they were down thirty points to
23:31
Speaker 3: the Cavs in Game one.
23:33
Speaker 4: Yes they won the title, Yes they fixed the chemistry issues,
23:38
Speaker 4: but there were some massive question marks with this next team.
23:42
Speaker 4: Where you're going into the playoffs and nobody realistically thought
23:45
Speaker 4: that this next team was a surefire title contender.
23:50
Speaker 3: Right, Lebron, do me a favor, Show me some guts.
23:53
Speaker 3: I'm serious, Show me some guts. I know there are
23:56
Speaker 3: expectations in New York, they'll come down hard on you
23:58
Speaker 3: if you don't. If we don't win, it it's championship
24:00
Speaker 3: or bus. There, it's championship or bust. In Philadelphia it
24:03
Speaker 3: would be if that's starting five's together, it would be
24:06
Speaker 3: championship or bus.
24:08
Speaker 1: Don't take the easy path.
24:09
Speaker 3: Don't go to Cleveland where if you win, great, if
24:13
Speaker 3: you lose, no one cares. Go to a place where
24:16
Speaker 3: people care. Okay, challenge yourself at the end of your career.
24:20
Speaker 3: Show some guts. Go to the Knicks or go to
24:24
Speaker 3: the Sixers, two places where it's championship or bus. If
24:27
Speaker 3: you don't, I'm not going to count this title as
24:29
Speaker 3: a title. If you do, when you win a title
24:31
Speaker 3: in New York or Philadelphia, I will perhaps give you
24:34
Speaker 3: two titles.
24:35
Speaker 1: How about that.
24:36
Speaker 3: So the hard path and show the guts on your
24:39
Speaker 3: finger and one for the guts.
24:42
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, the hard path and the one
24:45
Speaker 4: that shows Lebron having guts is going to the team
24:49
Speaker 4: that just won the title.
24:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, No, because the expectations, because it's championship or bus.
24:54
Speaker 3: Because of what you just said, Nick, fans will come
24:55
Speaker 3: down on him and come down on him hard if
24:58
Speaker 3: they don't win a second NBA title. They got Lebron Jay,
25:01
Speaker 3: they won one without him, and now they're adding one
25:03
Speaker 3: of the best players that ever played in the NBA.
25:05
Speaker 1: That's guts. Show me some guts.
25:08
Speaker 3: Listen, you win in Minnesota or lose in Minnesota, nobody
25:11
Speaker 3: cares you winner lose in Denver. Nobody cares you win
25:15
Speaker 3: or lose in Cleveland, nobody cares. People care when you
25:19
Speaker 3: win or lose in New York, and they certainly care
25:21
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Show some guts. You win in one of
25:25
Speaker 3: those two places, again, I give you one ring for
25:27
Speaker 3: the finger and one ring for your guts.
25:32
Speaker 1: It's a weird take.
25:34
Speaker 4: Just to be clear for people who maybe aren't seeing
25:36
Speaker 4: the irony. What's the difference between Lebron going to the
25:40
Speaker 4: Knicks and Kevin Durant when he went to the Warriors.
25:44
Speaker 1: Big difference.
25:45
Speaker 3: The Warriors were an all time great team. They did
25:49
Speaker 3: not need Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was on Oklahoma City,
25:53
Speaker 3: played Golden State in the Western Conference Finals, had a
25:56
Speaker 3: three to one series lead, couldn't close the deal. And
26:00
Speaker 3: that team was already an all time great team. So
26:02
Speaker 3: he couldn't close the deal. So rather to take an
26:05
Speaker 3: off season, go back, hit the weight room, work on
26:09
Speaker 3: your game, come back with Oklahoma City and try it again.
26:12
Speaker 1: What he did was.
26:14
Speaker 3: He said, hey, you know what, I don't want to
26:15
Speaker 3: do all that. I don't want to go against them.
26:18
Speaker 3: I'm just going to join them. That is not the
26:21
Speaker 3: case here again, they were down two games to one
26:25
Speaker 3: to C. J.
26:26
Speaker 1: McCollum. I'm not even certain how the Knicks won this
26:29
Speaker 1: NBA championship. Okay, And so.
26:31
Speaker 3: Lebron coming here, he's not coming to an all time
26:33
Speaker 3: great team. He's just coming to a team that happened
26:36
Speaker 3: to win a championship last year.
26:37
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Rich paul.
26:40
Speaker 5: Knew exactly what he was doing with that whiteboard.
26:42
Speaker 1: He did hate Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 3: Guy, he's playing fucking chess.