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Patriots Unfiltered 9/17: Steelers Preview, Latest Practice Report, Week 2 NFL Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 6: little bit more on a-hole island.
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  Speaker 4: Too I thought scared but I thought scared it's early
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  Speaker 4: in the season he doesn't know what to think he's
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  Speaker 4: very timid at this.
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  Speaker 3: Locke and Darnold is a lot bigger than May and DeVito.
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  Speaker 5: at that and it wasn't the.
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  Speaker 3: bad mood no I It wasn't her either.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't her either.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Does Seattle win the game if Sam Donald doesn't get injured?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Welcome to Patriots unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 3: at Gillette stadium. And that means it's picks day. Got
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  Speaker 3: to hurry. So we're going to get to that at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the show, our last half hour. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but in the meantime, it's Evan is Paul. It's me.
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  Speaker 8: It's deuce.
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  Speaker 9: It's Alex and Matt in the booth.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, We fully turned the page yesterday to the
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. We're going to continue doing that today with
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  Speaker 3: anything else that we've learned since yesterday. We've got our
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  Speaker 3: first participation report from both teams.
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  Speaker 9: So we'll go over.
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  Speaker 3: That, what that means, and everything else. So who wants
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  Speaker 3: to start?
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  Speaker 2: What's up with that participation report?
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  Speaker 5: You should probably go to Evan.
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  Speaker 2: Evan was out of practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: He's the guy who actually goes to the practice.
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  Speaker 3: Evan's kind of... First-hand view of everything.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 10: And Travion Henderson, full participant.
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  Speaker 3: Full.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it would be limited.
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  Speaker 10: Sounds like he's... tracking towards playing on Sunday. Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 10: seemed pretty optimistic about it yesterday as well. A couple guys, though,
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  Speaker 10: on the defense, Carlton Davis did not practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Neck injury.
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  Speaker 10: The neck injury. And he hurt himself on a tackle
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  Speaker 10: early on in the game in Seattle and was kind
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  Speaker 10: of like doing this thing with his shoulder and his
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  Speaker 10: neck area. So I'm thinking maybe that's where it stems from.
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  Speaker 10: He came back and played in the game.
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  Speaker 5: I think he only missed one play.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, and we also know Carlton Davis. Some veteran rest days,
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  Speaker 10: you just kind of assume that's going to happen with
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  Speaker 10: Carlton Davis. But Draymond Jones, another player that was limited officially,
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  Speaker 10: we did not see him at the beginning of practice,
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  Speaker 10: so he must have come out for team at the
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  Speaker 10: end or middle of practice after the media had already left.
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  Speaker 10: So he has a foot injury and was limited. So
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  Speaker 10: Davis didn't practice at all, and Drones is limited with
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  Speaker 10: the foot.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 10: We'll see about that. Those are two important players on defense.
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  Speaker 3: Is the plan Davis and help on DK Metcalf for
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  Speaker 3: most of the game?
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  Speaker 10: I think they're going to put Gonzalez on Metcalf.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, maybe.
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  Speaker 10: But I think they'd probably put Gonzalez on Metcalf for
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  Speaker 10: at least as much as he possibly can be. But
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  Speaker 10: Pittman's not a slouch. He's a solid number two receiver.
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  Speaker 10: More of a possession guy, I would say, than Metcalf,
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  Speaker 10: down the field receiver. But I was expecting Davis to probably...
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  Speaker 10: cover Pittman for most of this game.
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  Speaker 3: And, but that is a strategy. Sometimes teams do, instead
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  Speaker 3: of putting your number one on their number one, you
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  Speaker 3: give your number two corner help on their number one.
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  Speaker 3: And then you'd have number your number one corner, just
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  Speaker 3: blanket their number two.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think they, you know, I haven't seen them
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  Speaker 10: do a lot of that with Rabel, you know, I
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  Speaker 10: used to be a Belichick thing at times, especially I
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  Speaker 10: would say if they didn't feel like they truly had
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  Speaker 10: like an elite number one corner, You know, like, if
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  Speaker 10: it was, like, no offense, but, like, their number one
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  Speaker 10: corner that year was Malcolm Butler, let's say, instead of
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  Speaker 10: Ty Law. You know, like, something like that. But I
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  Speaker 10: would expect, you know, Christian Gonzalez to probably see a
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  Speaker 10: lot of DK. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds good. And on the Patriots, well, we talked about
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  Speaker 3: Trevion Henderson back. A couple guys didn't practice. What's Crown over?
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't practice. Yeah, we're still.
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  Speaker 10: Trying to figure out the crown over thing. He played
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  Speaker 10: two snaps in the game on field goal protection, and
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  Speaker 10: he has a knee injury. So not a major loss,
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  Speaker 10: not a starter or anything like that. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: He obviously got hurt on one of the two plays
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  Speaker 10: that he played.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, I think our boy Carlton Davis is upping it from...
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  Speaker 4: you know, getting shaken up and missing a play or two.
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  Speaker 4: So now he's, now he's making, missing practice.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, well, he, he did this all last
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  Speaker 5: year too.
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  Speaker 2: I know, that's why it's fun.
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  Speaker 12: It was, uh, season ending injury every game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And, uh, him and, and, I want to say it
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  Speaker 10: was Jalen Hawkins. There was two of them in the
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  Speaker 10: secondary that were on the same regimen for like the
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  Speaker 10: last eight weeks of the season. And it would be
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  Speaker 10: like a Wednesday practice. And we were, we'd be like, no,
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  Speaker 10: no Davis.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 10: And it's like, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean like, well, I think Hawkins actually missed at
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  Speaker 5: least one game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I'll be like, we'll see Davis on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, and you know what happens to Davis,
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  Speaker 4: at least for me, I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 4: feel the same way. He's kind of like the boy
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  Speaker 4: who cried wolf, even though it's not his fault.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really take his injuries seriously.
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  Speaker 14: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So when he finally misses a game, you're going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what?
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to be surprised. That's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 12: Paul yelling, get up.
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  Speaker 3: Get up.
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  Speaker 5: You're all right.
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  Speaker 3: On the Steelers' side of the street, they had a.
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  Speaker 3: person return. That could be a factor in the game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Joey Porter jr. Looks like he's going to play in
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  Speaker 10: the game. And we've talked a lot about the, how
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  Speaker 10: much zone coverage they played last week without him. And
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  Speaker 10: he's their best man corner. So not necessarily like if
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  Speaker 10: the Patriots said, AJ Brown, I think maybe it would, uh,
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  Speaker 10: you know, be a bigger deal. Uh, but if they
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  Speaker 10: wanted to play a little bit more man, I guess
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  Speaker 10: having Porter jr. Back would like allow them to do that.
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  Speaker 10: But the other one that I thought was more notable
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  Speaker 10: was Troy fought, knew they're starting left tackled in practice yesterday. Uh,
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  Speaker 10: He has an ankle injury, so we'll see if he's
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  Speaker 10: back out there today. But it sounds like Porter Jr.
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  Speaker 10: is going to play. That's what everybody's saying in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: He's in a little bit of a contract issue over there.
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  Speaker 3: He is.
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  Speaker 10: He's the same draft class as Gonzalez. So he's extension eligible,
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  Speaker 10: just like Christian Gonzalez was. And he still doesn't have
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  Speaker 10: a new deal. Now, he's not as good of a
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  Speaker 10: player as Witherspoon and Christian Gonzalez, but still a pretty
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  Speaker 10: good player. Definitely a good enough player to extend, but
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  Speaker 10: they still haven't signed him to a contract extension. So
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  Speaker 10: he has a back injury. Is that a back injury
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  Speaker 10: or is that, you know, a real back injury?
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  Speaker 4: And on the report, it's listed as conditioning, not injury
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  Speaker 4: related conditioning.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So that's, well, I think it's part of the, what
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  Speaker 4: Evan just explained. It's kind of negotiation. I think Porter
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  Speaker 4: is holding in the team. Doesn't really think he's hurt.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's going to play. Let's put
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  Speaker 4: it that way.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think he will based on him being at practice
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  Speaker 5: on a Wednesday, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 10: It sounded like McCarthy, and maybe it's gamesmanship.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: It sounded like he was going to play.
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  Speaker 10: Put a little pressure on him because he said that
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  Speaker 10: was my decision to hold him out last week. Just
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  Speaker 10: thought precautionary. Didn't want to push it so early in
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  Speaker 10: the season. Basically, I expect him to play Sunday. He
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  Speaker 10: said that on Monday or Tuesday. Was he a full
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  Speaker 10: participant in training camp and everything? Or was he limited there, too?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I think towards the end, this back injury started to
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  Speaker 10: pop up, and there's a lot of trade rumors around
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  Speaker 10: him right now because they don't have an extension done.
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  Speaker 10: So there's some people that think that they're not even
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  Speaker 10: going to give it to him and that they're going
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  Speaker 10: to look to move him. So this is all the
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  Speaker 10: things that we talked about with Christian Gonzalez that got
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  Speaker 10: put to bed when they gave him the extension before
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  Speaker 10: week one. This is all applying to Joey Porter Jr.
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  Speaker 8: Right now.
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  Speaker 4: And the negotiations, just to give people some numbers, just
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  Speaker 4: because it's fresh with Gonzalez signing his deal I guess
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  Speaker 4: he's looking for guarantees similar to Witherspoon and Gonzalez. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, 50, let's just call it 55 million-ish.
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  Speaker 5: I think Witherspoon got 59.
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  Speaker 4: Gonzalez got like 53 in those first two years. And
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  Speaker 4: I think the Steelers have offered him 33. So that's
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  Speaker 4: a big gap. You know, we're not talking about a
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  Speaker 4: couple of million here and there.
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  Speaker 3: I heard their owner came out and said, we've offered
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  Speaker 3: him the fourth largest cornerback in history.
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  Speaker 5: You just can't help yourself.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, he's not as good of
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  Speaker 10: a player as those two guys, as Witherspoon and Gonzalez.
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  Speaker 3: He's not.
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  Speaker 5: He's not on that level.
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  Speaker 10: He's a very good press man corner. Like, he's a
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  Speaker 10: good man coverage player, but he's not Christian Gonzalez. So
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  Speaker 10: I think that's the problem that they're having is that
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  Speaker 10: he views himself like he's in that tier and he
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  Speaker 10: wants to be paid like he's in that tier. But
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  Speaker 10: I think the Steelers are like, you know, you're not.
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  Speaker 2: In that tier.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe you're like top 10, 12, not top five, you know,
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  Speaker 10: type of corner.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So that's the participation report for both teams. And
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  Speaker 3: obviously we'll get another one today and a final one
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  Speaker 3: on Friday and then on Sunday.
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  Speaker 10: Saturday, Evan will have his late stretch. Roster elevation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: so Wijnowski is going to be one, so we know that.
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  Speaker 10: The punter is going to have to be one. He
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  Speaker 10: only has two more, so I'm interested to see what
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  Speaker 10: they do for the last couple of weeks without Behringer
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  Speaker 10: once they get to that point. The other one, if
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  Speaker 10: Henderson's playing, it was Land Larrison last week.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 10: But if Henderson's playing, you have Corey Conner and Henderson
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  Speaker 10: on the roster, so you don't need to elevate another
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  Speaker 10: running back if Henderson's healthy. So maybe one of those
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  Speaker 10: veteran defensive players, KJ Britt, Kendall Vildor, if they want
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  Speaker 10: to use it, they don't have to use it.
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  Speaker 4: I think Vildor might make some sense if you are
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  Speaker 4: worried at all about Carlton Davis.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: See, I'm not the only one who does it, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted the coaching staff to look at that
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  Speaker 2: and be like, what is it now?
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  Speaker 10: Well, he made the tackle in the first quarter. I
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  Speaker 10: know the play. He was down on one knee, and
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  Speaker 10: he was going like dizzy.
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  Speaker 8: Like, ah.
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  Speaker 3: I remember he walked off, and everybody on the chat
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh, he's got a stinger.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was like, oh, he'll be back. I didn't
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  Speaker 10: even bat an eye. Carlton Davis.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. And then in terms of the practice itself, how did–
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  Speaker 3: What was the mood out there?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, you know, we don't really see a lot this
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  Speaker 10: time of year. So I think the mood was the
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  Speaker 10: same as it always is. We didn't really see, you know, much.
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  Speaker 10: We're obviously not seeing team drills or anything like that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I'm not talking about the players. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 9: the media.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 10: I would say the one little, if you want a
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  Speaker 10: little bit of grousing, the one grousing that's going on
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  Speaker 10: is that they're putting a lot of players in scout
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  Speaker 10: team numbers already. like, right out of the gate. So
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  Speaker 10: instead of having them, like, put on a penny or
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  Speaker 10: put on the number, they just kind of expedite the
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  Speaker 10: process and they just come out of the locker room
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  Speaker 10: in their scout team jersey. So then when we're taking attendance,
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  Speaker 10: we have to figure out, you know, okay.
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  Speaker 16: Like, is.
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  Speaker 10: The horror.
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  Speaker 5: There's a.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 5: Have they always done that? Yes. I did notice that
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  Speaker 5: last week.
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  Speaker 12: Are you also complaining in person?
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  Speaker 5: Well, so it's like.
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  Speaker 3: Who is the head writer now that represents all of me?
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  Speaker 3: Will he write a letter to Karen? Will he write
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  Speaker 3: a letter to Vrabel requesting that that not be done anymore?
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  Speaker 12: Or is this just the special ball knower chapter?
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  Speaker 10: No, this is all of everybody because, you know, for example,
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  Speaker 10: yesterday Channing Canada was wearing five. Because Jalen Ramsey is five.
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  Speaker 10: So he's emulating Jalen Ramsey on the show team, as
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  Speaker 10: they call it. And somebody checked off five thinking that
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  Speaker 10: Draymond Jones was at practice. And I looked at it
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  Speaker 10: and I was like, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: That's just poor to me.
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  Speaker 10: I was like, I mean, he's nowhere near big enough
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  Speaker 10: to be Draymond Jones. So I was like, that's clearly
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  Speaker 10: a corner or something.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a season reporter that made this?
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  Speaker 10: I'm not naming names.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 10: I'm just one of your own.
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 5: No, he doesn't want to throw anyone under the bus. Alex,
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  Speaker 5: you're better than that.
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  Speaker 10: Well, we can throw Alex under the bus all we want.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, the other day he told me Baron Morton
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  Speaker 10: was at practice and he wasn't at practice. And I
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  Speaker 10: was like, he's wearing a red jersey. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 10: this one, if you miss one of the quarterbacks, like,
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  Speaker 10: come on.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: That is kind of a.
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  Speaker 3: Bad mistake. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They're not.
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  Speaker 4: Channing Canada not only is a defensive back as opposed
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  Speaker 4: to an edge rusher, but he's a smaller defensive back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: 260, 270.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Gonzo's a pretty big corner. It's like, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 5: you go, you know, edge rusher, but Channing Canada's not Gonzo.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get into a beef that somebody has
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  Speaker 3: with Barth later on.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, good.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 4: Look forward to Evan throwing his best friend under the bus.
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  Speaker 3: I know. So we'll get into that a little later.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny when you do that.
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  Speaker 10: If I didn't make fun of him, that means that
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  Speaker 10: I don't care or like him. Making fun of him
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  Speaker 10: is like, that's because we're friends.
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  Speaker 5: You can make fun of him.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, to his face, but what about when someone else
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  Speaker 12: is making fun of him?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, no, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 12: Do you stand up for him?
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  Speaker 3: I can make fun of him because I pay him.
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  Speaker 18: That's fair.
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  Speaker 10: He's very happy about that, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Is that why you dump on us all the time?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and then today, obviously this practice again, who's on
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  Speaker 3: the availabilities today?
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  Speaker 10: The coordinators, all three.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Corr.
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  Speaker 10: Before practice will be Springer and McDaniels, and then after
• 14:33
  Speaker 10: practice will be Zach Corr. The defensive coaches are also
• 14:36
  Speaker 10: available after Zach Corr goes. All the defensive assistants will
• 14:40
  Speaker 10: speak after that.
• 14:42
  Speaker 9: And they usually alternate that, so next week it'll be offense.
• 14:44
  Speaker 10: Yes, we're getting a lot of the position coaches. Maybe
• 14:49
  Speaker 10: a little too much.
• 14:50
  Speaker 9: Why is that?
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: We don't get them alternate weeks all season?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: When does access become too much? I'm just.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: I feel... He's overwhelmed. Long time ago.
• 15:00
  Speaker 10: He's overstimulated. There's so many questions he wants to ask.
• 15:03
  Speaker 19: I don't know.
• 15:04
  Speaker 10: I just feel a little bit like, do we need
• 15:07
  Speaker 10: this every week? Like, and it's like for them, you know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 10: like it's, you've run out of questions at some point.
• 15:12
  Speaker 10: It's like, you can only ask the guy, like how
• 15:14
  Speaker 10: many more times am I going to ask poor Ashton
• 15:16
  Speaker 10: Grant about Drake May? You know, like it's every week.
• 15:19
  Speaker 10: It's like, all right, we got to get the update,
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: you know, eventually like it's just kind of, you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 10: this week the defensive coaches are talking about You know,
• 15:28
  Speaker 10: I'm sure, like, Justin Hamilton will be very popular because
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: Gonzalez just signed his extension. So maybe, like, he'll, but, like,
• 15:35
  Speaker 10: there's not much, it's been one week, you know?
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can go down the roster and, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: get updates on each player if you want, you know?
• 15:45
  Speaker 10: That's literally what it turns into.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: What have you seen from this guy?
• 15:48
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: How's this guy doing?
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: Paul gets it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 12: What have you seen?
• 15:54
  Speaker 10: What have you seen from player X?
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: And next week, we'll get to ask Todd Downing how
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: he's going to get by without A.J.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: That's going to be a team effort. Everybody's got to
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: step up. It's not going to be on one guy
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: just to do it. Everyone's going to have to try
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: to do a little bit more.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Help the team.
• 16:12
  Speaker 12: What have you seen from Efton?
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I think the coordinators, I like that they've sort of
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: adjusted that because some of this stuff is kind of new-ish,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: like maybe within the last five years where we're getting
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: more access to the entirety of the coaching staff.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: The league has mandated that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I think there's good value in talking to the coordinators.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: They used to do those Tuesday conference calls back in
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the day when Belichick was here. I used to find
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: there was value in listening to Josh McDaniels and Absolutely.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: To a lesser extent, Matt, Patricia.
• 16:43
  Speaker 10: Especially because they're the play callers.
• 16:45
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: You know, they're the ones with the play sheet and
• 16:48
  Speaker 10: they're calling the plays.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I think for the position coaches, Fred, to your point,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I would rather it be, okay, I have something specific
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: in mind I want to write about Drake May.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Can I request Ashton Grant?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Because I want to talk, I mean, I have plenty
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: from Josh McGillis, but I'd like to maybe get someone
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: that might, you know, have a more personal relationship as
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: his quarterbacks go on upon and i can request that
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: as opposed to making them come out.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering art is this mandated by the league yes
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: so yeah so it sounds to me like it's about
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: getting people aware of who these guys are you know
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: could be hitting them out of the cellar probably than
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: the light of day you're.
• 17:28
  Speaker 10: Probably right it could be so they originally the rule
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: was is that they had to be available once a
• 17:33
  Speaker 10: month and Bill Belichick because he's Bill Belichick used to
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: give us the coaches on the 31st and then on
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: the 1st. And then we wouldn't talk to them for
• 17:46
  Speaker 10: two months. And that would fulfill the obligation.
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: He's a crafty one.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And Mike, you mocked that, Mike, but that's why
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: they won.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 17:59
  Speaker 10: Because they didn't give up any secrets to the media.
• 18:03
  Speaker 10: And so then somebody, I think we did, not we,
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: I should say they complained. about it yeah yeah yeah
• 18:11
  Speaker 10: yeah the the pro football writers of america uh filed
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: a complaint about how they used to do that and
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: so then he would give us them like on like
• 18:22
  Speaker 10: the 25th and the 5th because well you know 10
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: whole days in between was such a big difference uh
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: but that was the bill that was the bill workaround
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: was back-to-back days and then like the second day it'd
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: be like well i just talked to all these guys
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: yesterday i.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Remember those days well The 31st and the 1st.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Classic.
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: We'll just get the news on here.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: They turned Fenway Park into a golf range.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Top golf.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: But who's fixing all those divots?
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: They're not golfing on the.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: No, but the ball lands and it lands. It creates
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: an indentation. You know, that's why. Who's going around with
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: that little thing and fixing all those?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: It's regular grass. It's not a green that they're hitting
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it on. They're hitting it on the grass. I still
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: don't like it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: When you drive into a fairway, you don't generally make
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: a divot.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: So if Nick Eaton has a problem in the outfield tonight,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I'm blaming Popco.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Well, they're in Texas.
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: And they're having other problems right now.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Fred obviously feeling some of the heat of being 19
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: and 21.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Over the last 40. Don't worry about it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not worried about it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: They're not on my radar in any way, shape, or form.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: You know what I am kind of psyched about? Like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you started the show. It's, like, Thursday.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: We got coordinators coming. Like, settling into a normal week.
• 19:40
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: Not a Wednesday game.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're back to our three-days show schedule, which I
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: love because I love this show. You know, Evan gives
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: us the flavor from the practice. And you're going to
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: hear from the coordinators later. You might get a little
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: something different.
• 19:54
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Kind of getting into that routine. I like the routine.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I'm a creature of habit, Fred. I like the routine.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's nice to have things to talk about.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Sunday at 1.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: You have interesting topics each day. Like in the off season,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: you might have to just find it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: As we always do. We do. I mean, but.
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: Well, you know, he comes in.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Do my crossword.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Hits the men's room.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Alex makes fun of me.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: You know, morning business. Then he does his crossword.
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: He chats with various people that come to visit him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I don't come in and hit the men's room.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: No?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: That's incorrect. First of all, I would never hit the
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: men's room here unless it was a dire emergency.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: So are you one of those people?
• 20:28
  Speaker 16: Yes.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: So how do you cope with.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: Having to go to the bathroom?
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think we're talking about the bathroom specifically, right?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Number two. Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Not here.
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: You don't have a special one? That you go to?
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: In dire emergencies, I'll go to the locker room. The
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: men's locker room.
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: The one that's next to us, it would.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I would never do that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: No.
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: No, you're not allowed to do that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: I would never ever do that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: It's like an unwritten rule.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Is it unwritten? Oh, you can't do that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: That's like... microwaving fish in the break room.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Don't do it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: No, it's an unwritten rule.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Shout out Nick.
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: Even number one there.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Love you, mean it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Hope you're doing well down in Texas.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You gotta find one with ventilation that's away from you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Have you guys ever gone to the one right here
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: to the left that's just a solo bathroom right in
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: the tunnel and it's probably the worst smelling place in
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: the whole city?
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: And I don't think it locks.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: It doesn't lock.
• 21:18
  Speaker 12: And it's used by anyone and everyone.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: This one over next to us.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: No, no, no.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: Out in the tunnel.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, right in the tunnel. It's right out in the tunnel.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: That one is such a tough one.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: That's a break bus.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: It would have to be a dire emergency.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: In case of emergency.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: But sometimes when there's a concert going on here, they're
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: going to shoot you if you go into this room
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: right next to us.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Like, you can't even look at the door.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Men's locker room. Men's locker room would be. It's a
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: way to go.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: Did I tell you about my trauma?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You got a key to the broadcast booth. Just grab
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the key.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Go up to the broadcast booth.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: You'll be solo.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Is that Zoe's private throne up there?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't gotten this before.
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: Back to French trauma.
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to lie.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Did I tell you about what happened to me in
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: first grade?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: No, what?
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: First grade, St. Raymond's in Providence. During lunch, I'm in
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: the bathroom. You know, it's a big men's room and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I'm in... stall doing my thing. And these older kids
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: knock open the door and start laughing at me.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: And so ever since then, like, you know, I got
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to make sure that there's a solid, you know, latch
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: on that door.
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: Oh, man.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That can be traumatizing.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: A little first grader.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody poops.
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: Did they break the lock on you or you just
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: didn't lock it?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: They just kicked the door open. I don't know. It
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: might not have been fully latched or whatever first grade
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: first grade.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: Well i said it too i had a traumatic experience
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: in first grade where i got well i don't know
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: if i actually did i can't remember but they said
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: i flooded the toilets but i and i just stuffed
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: toilet paper down the toilet and then flushed them and
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: then like my mom was like no you told me
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: you did and i remember going in and there was
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: a kid in there who did it and was like
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: showing me how to do it and i was like
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: i'm not gonna do this i went back to class
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: and then Mike, the principal, came in.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: He blamed it on you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: I think so.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know for sure.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I might have blacked out because my mom was like, no,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you told me you did. And I'm like, I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: know if I did. But first grade traumatic bathroom experiences, Fred.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: We got them both.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Anyone else?
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: I threw up on the bus. Third grade.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: It's common.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: I got like motion sickness from the bus or whatever.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: Very embarrassing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: That's bad.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: You just have to live in the city and just
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: walk to school.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I had a bus one, too, though.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: I was getting off the bus in, like, seventh grade,
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: and a kid chucked a wad of gum, and it
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: got me right in the back of the hair.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And I had to go to the nurse, and the nurse, like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: just cut it out. Like, she just, like, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: she wasn't worried about my hairstyle at all.
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: That's not as traumatic as.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So you walk around the rest of the day looking
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: like he's from Arkansas.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Just start calling you Patrick.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Right in the back.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: You know, you're walking off the bus, you're in the line,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you just feel like.
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: These kids are out to get you, I think.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: Appalachian deuce.
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: Look at old Patches over here.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Patches old man.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Shut up.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: He's got a target on his back.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: All right. 855-PATS-500 is the hotline. Podcasts at Patriots.com is
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the email address. We're going to get into picks. I've
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: already made it clear what my pick is for the Patriots.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Anybody have any changes of opinion from last, from yesterday
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: about this, how this game is going to turn out.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: So a matter of fact, you know, I happened to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: catch Deuce on one of my shows this morning.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I heard you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: And he was kind of poking fun at you and I.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: You know, like not quite as confident as, you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: some of.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: The other guys.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I was being honest. Yeah, that's true.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: He's kind of taking shots at us.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I thought my best shots were at Andy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Like whistling past the graveyard? I don't think so.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So, but that's the other thing. So not to, you know, divert,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Too much. But Andy Hart was hosting the show this morning. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: And Hardy was adamant that he was not working for
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: us after in Minneapolis when we had that Super Bowl.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And he was.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I don't know where Hardy blacked out. Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I thought that he was saying that once Deuce came...
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Andy was saying that he.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Wasn't here yet. Oh, no, no, no.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And he left him like Mayesh.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: And I got here.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Like, as a matter of fact, Andy didn't even leave
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: till the next year.
• 25:02
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: He left after the last 18 Superbowl.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: That was his last year.
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I was, that wasn't Minnesota.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Andy was claiming that you didn't replace him, that you
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: guys worked.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Andy's last day was May 29th, 2019.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: The day my son was born.
• 25:15
  Speaker 16: 2019.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: Oh, wow.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: That's weird.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: So the last time it was the 18 Superbowl.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: He left after that Super Bowl.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Hardy's got a lot of shows, Fred, and it's music.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: He's got a lot of jobs.
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: There's a lot of things in his head. I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: care for the subtle jabs that, well, back when you
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: were in-house media, stuff like that. I'm like, what are
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: we doing?
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Listen, 28 years I've been dealing with this. Just embrace it. Evan,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: sing a song.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I got news for you. You work for in-house media.
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, but there's like a tone to it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: And that's fine. I don't like it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: I'm owning it right now by saying I don't like it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I always embrace it. What Andy used to always say
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: when people would make fun of me, he goes, all right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: what's your excuse? Because they're just as biased as you are.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: They're a lot more biased than we are.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Right. So don't let them get to you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: And when I say they, I don't mean every single
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: one of them. I say a lot of them.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: They're not getting to me.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It sounds like they are a little bit.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: He's got a little Brian Morey to him. I'm not mad,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to get him.
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know I like a good fight.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right. Should we get to the callers and emailers?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Or do we have anything to say about this game?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I can talk a little about this game. I just,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Devin and I did our preview, and I looked back
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: last year. I mean, they just didn't pressure Rodgers at
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: all last year.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, he carved them up.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: And I think that's, to me, the big key is
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: just getting him off the spot, getting him uncomfortable. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: think he is a little bit better on the move,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: and they might give up some plays with him on
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: the move, but I just think it's a non-starter if
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: you let him drop back quick, get the ball out
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: under 2.5 seconds.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: One thing that has me a little worried in terms
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: of my pick, because you guys know I'm with Fred
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: on I think this is a win, the Patriots' ability
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: to stop the run my confidence in that has been
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: shaken a little bit, you know, sort of down the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: stretch last year. I kind of chalked it up to
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Milton Williams, his absence, but then we saw it a
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: little bit, you know, obviously in the super bowl. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: then I thought even Monday night, uh, last Wednesday night,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: there was some signs that I thought price looked pretty good.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't know how good the Pittsburgh offensive line is.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I know it's kind of average in terms of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: rate rating rankings and whatnot, but, If they can get
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Jalen Warren and Rico Dowdle going and not put Rodgers
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: in harm's way, I would have a little concern about that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're capable of running the ball
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: all that well. I don't think they ran it great
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: against Atlanta. You guys would know more than I would.
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: Um, they do have both those tight ends though. And they,
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: you know, they like to, Mike keeps talking about, I
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: like to use a lot of them, you know, they're,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: they're trying to play more three receiver this year than
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: they were last year. Last year, they were 31st in
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: the league and three receiver usage. Uh, they were up
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: about 20% in week one because they have Pittman now.
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: So they're, They're trying to play a little bit more three-receiver,
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: throw the ball a little bit further down the field,
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: I assume, is the.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Reason for that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: But Darnell Washington's basically an extra offensive lineman when he's
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: on the field. He's a beast. He's a really good blocker.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: He's a good underneath outlet that can kind of rumble
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: and break tackles with the ball in his hands, Gronk style.
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: They can put a lot of size on the field.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you who my sneaky most important person
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: on defense will be for the Patriots.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: Charles Woodson. Craig Woodson.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Craig Woodson.
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: Two different people.
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: Charles Woodson.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Craig Woodson. That one's a little tricky. Because I think
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: they're going to have to play.
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: They're going to.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Have to get closer to the line. Rogers is going
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: to try to get the ball out of his hands
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: quickly in these two, three, four, five-yard plays. And I
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: think Woodson coming up and defending against that is going
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: to be a big factor in this game.
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: I think that in also covering the tight ends in man-to-man,
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: I think they're going to want to play man-to-man. that's
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: how you get a quarterback to hold the ball is
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: you get up in the receiver's faces and you disrupt
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: them off the line and you make it so that
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: the receivers can't get open quickly so that the quarterback
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: has to hold the football. And last year, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: watching back the game from last year, Marte Mapu is
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: playing a lot on the tight end in that game.
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: He's not even here anymore. So, you know, who's going
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: to be the guys at Woodson? Uh, I don't think
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: it's going to be Bayard. Is it Del Pettis or
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: Jalen Reed? Is he ready to play a bigger role? Uh,
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: you know, when they do run those spread formations on
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: third down and Pat Friermuth is basically in the slot,
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: you know, who's going to cover him man to man,
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: I think is a question going into this game. Cause
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: I think they match up really well against their receivers,
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: but the three corners, but You know, the tight end,
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: the back out of the backfield, like those are going
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: to be in offensively for Pittsburgh, the guys that could
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: make a difference in the game.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Like if they go to tight ends, just sort of
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: thinking off the top of my head, do you worry
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that that takes Marcus Jones off the field? Because Marcus
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Jones could take Roman Wilson. I think that makes a
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: lot of sense. I like that matchup from Marcus Jones.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: But if you go to tight ends and then you
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: have Pittman and Metcalf, those are two big receivers. There's
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: really no one for Jones to cover.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, probably. And I think, you know, just in general,
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: that that's sort of how they play. They have like
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: early down run base personnel with the tight ends. And
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: then they have like a spread formation where Rogers is
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: in the gun and the three receivers are on the field.
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: And who's the other huge receiver that they have?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Metcalf.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: No, the other. Michael Pittman.
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I thought there was a guy like 6'7.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: He's a tight end. Darnell Washington. That's what we're saying.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Two tight ends with two big receivers. That's four guys
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: of size that I don't necessarily like Marcus Jones.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Matching up with. And that goes back to talking about
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: this season. Are they stuck in nickel?
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: And again, love Marcus Jones, but he is 5'8. And
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: in certain matchups like this, I mean, you saw it
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: last week against Seattle. They were pulling him off the
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: field more than they did last year.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: And if I remember.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: And I probably don't have it perfect because, you know, CTE.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I think they took a couple of shots in the
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: red zone to Washington trying to get him on Marcus
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Jones last year.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I don't think that it worked. But that's just something
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: to sort of keep in mind.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I think there may have been even a penalty on
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: one of them that gave them a fresh set of
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: downs and they ended up scoring on it. If you
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: want to sit in zone all day against Aaron Rodgers, that's,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think, a great idea.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I think you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Those were the two throws that Rodgers made last year
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: against them. A go ball to Metcalf and a go
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: ball to Calvin Austin. That won the game. It was
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: the game winner. And he basically didn't make any plays
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: outside of those two plays.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: But they were two big plays in the game that
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: tilted it in their favor. When I looked at, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: you look at Pittsburgh, that's the one thing that stands
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: out about them offensively is that they're big. They have,
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: they have real size. Now those guys don't run very well,
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: but they have real size at the skill position players positions,
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: especially at wide receiver for like a, you know, teams
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: don't normally have two big dudes like Metcalf and Pittman.
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: So they can do that. They can get on size
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: on the field. And the guy I circled Jalen Reed,
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: like is Jalen Reed ready to play a bigger role
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: this week, you know, as he onboarded, is he up
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: to speed because no offense, but didn't go so well
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: for Del Pettis last week in that, you know, nickelback
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: role that Paul's talking about taking Marcus Jones off the field.
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: I think they need to be able to play that
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: big nickel package. They need to have somebody that's a
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: little bit bigger and a little sturdier than Marcus Jones
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: that can play against these two tight ends. But that,
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: you know, is Jalen Reed ready to play, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: is he up to speed on the defense and do
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: they feel comfortable putting them on the field?
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: Anything else?
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Shots to DK. Watch the shots to DK. I think
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers said it yesterday. He said, I'm going to
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: keep throwing it up to him. So I think that's,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: you know, and I just think Pittman's kind of becoming
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: more of the chain mover guy. So it just puts
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: a little bit more on Carlton Davis.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I like what.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: Evan was saying. You know, I think it's going to
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: be Gonzo on DK. You've got to take those big
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: plays away. Um, but you know, Carlton Davis, it can
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: be like, he can go out and hurt sometimes, you.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Know, and is he ready to kind of handle Charles Woods,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: you know, ends up being Charles Woods on Pittman.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: That could be, that's why I think Vildor might.
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: Pittman's a Paul type of guy.
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: The guy that Paul doesn't like.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: Because he's like a hundred catches for a thousand yards
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: every year.
• 33:44
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: He's right.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Like it's not explosive.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: It's not explosive. I'm asleep. And I'm like, please give
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: me that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: Like this guy is like, how many slants can I
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: watch one guy run when I, you know, but it's that, that,
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: that type of player. But you know, they really are
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: hoping that Roman Wilson is going to emerge in his
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: third year. They're hoping that he has a breakout season and,
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: They let Calvin Austin walk. He, he went to the
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: giants and they're kind of hoping that it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Seemed like they targeted Roman Wilson more in that game
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: last week than they have.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: But like on go, on go routes and fades and
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: stuff down the field. It's, I don't think that like
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: winning the ball at the catch point, it's not really
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: his game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: No, the three guys make sense.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I do.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. That's why I like Evans. I, I, with you, Mike,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I like Evan's idea of Gonzo on Metcalf because.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: He, he can break the game open. He's a pretty
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: good player and he played an awful game.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: And I think when you have a guy that plays
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: that badly, he's probably going to respond. Yeah. He's been
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: a pretty good player throughout his career.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: He's not going to drop, you know, a number of
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: catchable passes again, but it might not matter because Gonzo
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: might just win the matchup.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: And he might not be as open as he was
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: last because he should have made some plays last week.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Can I say one more thing? I just interested how
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Daquan Jones goes in. Like, you know, it's just simple
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: as Lenny T's out and he's in, but Is he
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: now the nose tackle over Durden? It's a subtle thing,
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: but I'm interested to see how they use him.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Email says, I heard you're changing the timing of the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: show next week. Well, not just next week. For the
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: rest of the season, we're going to be 11-1 Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: and Thursday instead of 12-2. So 11-1, that's because of
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: the locker room availability. We want to make sure everyone
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: has a chance to go in and talk to the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: guys and make sure that they're motivated and the morale
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: and all that. So we'll be 11-1 on Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and Thursday. But he says, I think this means that
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: you won't be playing Mike or Evan's songs anymore. That
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: is a travesty. Please rework the lyrics so that we
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: can still hear those songs.
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: I mean, what are we going to do if we
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: don't sing about Derrick Henry?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: I forgot about that unintended consequence.
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, everything's domino effect.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, I do have a song that's just generally
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: about me and not going to the locker room.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just, hey, here we go. This one,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you know. So, I mean, you could still play that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 22: His co-pilot intro music.
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: We haven't played the practice song in like two years
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: because they've been practicing at this time. of last season too,
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: so it's been a while.
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: We'll have to come up with some new songs, Pat Moreau.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 36:21
  Speaker 18: This one's for Mike Dussault. Yeah, here we go. This
• 36:27
  Speaker 18: one's for Mike Dussault.
• 36:28
  Speaker 21: He made his name in blogging, and he's a youth
• 36:31
  Speaker 21: hockey referee.
• 36:33
  Speaker 18: Don't you ever forget those 28-3 tees. He's last in
• 36:39
  Speaker 18: the picks. And he's sneaky negative. But he knows his
• 36:43
  Speaker 18: hoodies and he knows them good. Did you know that
• 36:46
  Speaker 18: he used to live in Hollywood?
• 36:48
  Speaker 21: Okay.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: This one's for Mike to sew.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 36:55
  Speaker 18: This one's for Mike Dressel.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: I think that might be the best one.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: That is the best one.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: It's catchy.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: The bridge to that last chorus.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Sneaky negative.
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: That's the best part of it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Such a chef's kiss.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Good stuff. Good stuff. All right. 855-PASS-500 is the hotline.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Podcasts at Patriots.com is the email address. Let's hit the phones.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to Brian and Lowell first. What's up, Brian?
• 37:23
  Speaker 23: Hey, what's up, guys?
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Hey.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, Brian.
• 37:27
  Speaker 23: Hey, I just want to talk about A.J.
• 37:29
  Speaker 21: Brown's injury, how he went down last week in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 21: opener and we put.
• 37:32
  Speaker 23: A champ, Seahawks.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: Oh, man.
• 37:36
  Speaker 21: I feel bad for the guy, man.
• 37:37
  Speaker 23: But he's up six weeks.
• 37:39
  Speaker 21: But Kyle Williams is going to take over now. I
• 37:41
  Speaker 21: think he's going to step up. And Epton Chisholm and...
• 37:46
  Speaker 21: Everybody else will step up and meet them. But Trevor
• 37:48
  Speaker 21: Henderson should be playing this week. He's coming back off
• 37:52
  Speaker 21: ankle injury. So Trey will be playing this. So he's
• 37:55
  Speaker 21: going to be nice to see finally get him back.
• 37:59
  Speaker 21: And that Daquan Jones guy we picked up, the guy from.
• 38:03
  Speaker 23: The Bills, he's going to.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Start the run.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: 3.30.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: Start the run.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yep. Yep. Big guy up front.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: I'll put Paul's word about.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: All right. You're going to be at the game, Brian?
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: Eat space.
• 38:15
  Speaker 21: Oh, man, I wish, but I was at the Precinct
• 38:18
  Speaker 21: game when we played Philly.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I know, but this game, where are you going to
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: be watching? In your living room?
• 38:24
  Speaker 23: Yeah, pretty much.
• 38:26
  Speaker 21: That's the plan. I think it went by field goal.
• 38:29
  Speaker 21: I think Andy Bogalis kicked that one in field goal.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, I hope you're right. Let's go, but I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: it's going to be more than a field goal, Brian.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: All right, thanks for calling. Brian Lowe, we'll check it in.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Not to be confused with Brian Lowe. former host of
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Patriots Today.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: That guy sounded like Dickie Eklund's little brother. Who?
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Sounded like Dickie Eklund's little brother.
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: I don't know who that is.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: You guys never saw The Fighter?
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah. I mean, like once.
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: I wouldn't recognize that by no name.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: What are we even doing? How do you never hear
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: of Dickie Eklund?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Is that Christian Bale?
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: I didn't even know that was his name in the movie.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: It's a good movie.
• 39:09
  Speaker 12: I remember Mickey Ward, but I don't remember.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: They're the pride of Lowell.
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: It was a good movie. I enjoyed it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Isaac in South Dakota. What's up, Isaac? Hey, guys.
• 39:22
  Speaker 20: Long-time listener, first-time caller. I have a question. Hypothetically, if, like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 20: Caleb Loma were to get a start, do you think
• 39:32
  Speaker 20: that would possibly help the run game with his athleticism
• 39:35
  Speaker 20: and getting to the outside if we were to, like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 20: some zone run to the outside?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know is he.
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: Known as a mauler is he a guy that caleb
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: lomu yeah no athletic player but he's not playing in
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: this no he's not playing yeah yeah but he's.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Saying it hypothetically if he did play he's asking would
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: it help the run game not yet.
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: I don't know i guess it depends on your perspective
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: on that like if they wanted to run like more
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: tosses and more outside zones and like stretch it you
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: know plays and things like that i i suppose but
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: like he's not as like physical as, like, Morgan Moses.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Right. But I think that's what he's asking.
• 40:09
  Speaker 21: Right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Well, what comes with putting him in at right tackle?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: He's going to have to go against T.J. Watt a lot.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, he's not playing.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Unless someone gets hurt.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: No, he was talking about just in general, would he
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: be better.
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: For the run game?
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: I don't think that I would describe him as that
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: kind of player, no.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: I think he's more of an athletic pass protector.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: He's more athletic.
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Um, let's go to Chucky in Wisconsin. What's up, Chucky?
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Chucky cheese.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Get it. Oh, good.
• 40:41
  Speaker 15: Hey guys.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Hey, how are you all?
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: Thanks for taking the call.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: Great.
• 40:45
  Speaker 23: Hey, um, I got a question.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: It's been on my mind for a bit.
• 40:50
  Speaker 23: So I watched a little bit.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: Sorry, Paul, not red zoning, but skipping around some games
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: and doing some film this week.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: Is it, uh, Is it just me, or like if
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: you draw a line on the line of scrimmage, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: know we're 26th in, what, BBA?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 41:09
  Speaker 17: OVA?
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: BBA? For running the ball?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: For running? Yeah, we're down there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: 32.
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: Are we talking about rush offense?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: 32.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the rushing offense.
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: Dead last.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Okay, is it just me, or are we now on
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: year three, four, whatever, of actually not... moving the line
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: of scrimmage.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Yep.
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: I've talked about it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: I feel like Mac Jones' rookie year is the last
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: time they had a good running game.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: But so, Evan, I guess, you know, you guys were
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: talking about the assistant coach availability and all. Are you
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: actually seeing the offensive line coaches, too? I mean, would
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: it be worth, like, putting the heat on them a
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: little bit, saying, you know, what's up? It almost looks
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: like we're trying to zone block on a downhill play,
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: like we're just statically holding the line.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, to be something more. Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, they've got, they have three offensive line coaches,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: so yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: Well, two now, but yeah, they, they, I don't know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: I don't think it's just on the offensive line. Like,
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: To me, I think that the scheme needs to be
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: more dynamic in the run game. I think when you
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: watch the teams that run the ball successfully nowadays, there's
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: a lot of moving parts in the run game. And
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: it's less so of like just blocking duo or gap
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: and just going right at people. And it's more of
• 42:33
  Speaker 10: the window dressing, the motion, the misdirection plays.
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: Don't you want to have a team where.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: When you need two yards, you can just line up
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: and get two yards.
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: But I'm not talking about getting two yards. I'm talking
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: about getting.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's like you don't have
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: to scheme good runs. It's man-on-man, and you just win
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: your blocks.
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just go dig out Byron Murphy and
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: move him off the ball. That's great on third and one. Obviously,
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: if I need a yard on third and one, I
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: want to be able to just go forward and pick
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: up a yard. But if you're talking about like running
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: the ball consistently throughout the game, I think that there's
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: just these guys on the defensive line are just too good. They're,
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: they're really good players now that are really difficult to move.
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: And if you're just expecting to just run gap or
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: duo or whatever, you know, full back lead, and you're
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: just going to bowl pins over, like you need to
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: have really good offensive linemen and really physical blockers to
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: be able to do that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: And I don't know if they have that. So yeah,
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: I think that, you know, I was talking to one
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: of the ball knowers about this yesterday. I was talking
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: to Taylor about it yesterday and he made a good point.
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: If you're going to move a lot of guys around
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: and you're going to use a lot of motion, that
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: kind of has to be ingrained in your system. It
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: has to sort of be an identity. You know, it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: not something that you can just go in now and
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: start installing a bunch of motions. That's something that begins
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: in the spring and builds up from the spring.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: Like Kyle Shanahan or Liam Cohn or, you know, one
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: of these coaches, Mike McDaniel, like that's part of the offense, right?
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: That's part of the system. And I just think with McDaniels,
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: it's not necessarily for whatever reason, that's not part of
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: his like DNA as a coordinator and as a play designer.
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: So that that's where I would start. Like, I think
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: they need to be more creative with how they run
• 44:21
  Speaker 10: the football.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the call, Chucky.
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: Appreciate it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: How about Anthony in Pennsylvania? What's up, Anthony?
• 44:33
  Speaker 23: What's going on, y'all?
• 44:34
  Speaker 24: Hey.
• 44:35
  Speaker 23: I didn't really have time to call in to talk
• 44:38
  Speaker 23: about last week's game. I'm going to try to go
• 44:42
  Speaker 23: real quick and then bleed into the Steelers game. Games
• 44:45
  Speaker 23: like that where we just turn the ball over and
• 44:47
  Speaker 23: we're just messing up ourselves and just letting the other
• 44:50
  Speaker 23: team win, that's the type of games that really get
• 44:53
  Speaker 23: under my skin as a fan. But I don't know
• 44:56
  Speaker 23: if anybody remembers last year when we played the Steelers,
• 44:59
  Speaker 23: that was the How we remember. I just need to
• 45:06
  Speaker 23: see a clean one this week. That's mostly what I
• 45:08
  Speaker 23: care about. Rush the old guy. Don't let him throw deep.
• 45:15
  Speaker 23: Just come out with a win. I just want to
• 45:17
  Speaker 23: see a clean one.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: What else? You wanted to talk about this game coming up,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: or are you good?
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Just want to see a clean game.
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: Clean game.
• 45:27
  Speaker 23: Yeah, basically, that's all I'm trying to say.
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't want five turnovers like the last time.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:34
  Speaker 23: Last week, it was Drake. Last year, it was Ramon Drake.
• 45:37
  Speaker 20: Yep.
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: And Drake.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And Drake. Drake fumbled three times, I believe.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: In the last game.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Well, it's still a pick in the end zone at
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: the end of the half. Yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 23: Last week, Drake was turning the ball over. Last year
• 45:48
  Speaker 23: against Steelers, Ramond Drake was turning the ball over.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: And Drake was, yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: And the difference in those two games is this game,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: before any of the turnovers happened, was dead even. It
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: was 10-3 in the fourth quarter before any turnover happened.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh game, I think the Patriots win 100 times
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: out of 100 if they don't turn the ball over
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: so many times.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: One of them was on a two-yard line.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I think the games were much different.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: The Patriots, I thought, thoroughly outplayed Pittsburgh for 60 minutes
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: last year, and the turnovers prevented them from winning the game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: This game, I thought, was pretty even, and the turnovers
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: killed the Patriots at the end.
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: You know?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: As always, we have our caller from L.A., Christian. Christian,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: what's up?
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: Hey, you guys.
• 46:35
  Speaker 17: Hey, you guys.
• 46:36
  Speaker 15: Hey, you guys.
• 46:36
  Speaker 19: Hey, a couple of things. First, I want to ask
• 46:39
  Speaker 19: a couple of questions, and then I want to stump
• 46:41
  Speaker 19: the grump, so you'll have to wait until the questions
• 46:43
  Speaker 19: are over after the grump is stumped.
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: Okay.
• 46:47
  Speaker 19: Stumpo El Grumpo.
• 46:49
  Speaker 25: Paul.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
• 46:50
  Speaker 19: We know Tom Brady was the greatest quarterback of all time,
• 46:53
  Speaker 19: and sometimes when you've got that guy, people behind you
• 46:56
  Speaker 19: just don't.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: See the field.
• 46:57
  Speaker 19: Can you please name for me every quarterback drafted after
• 47:01
  Speaker 19: Tom Brady, what school they came from, and where they
• 47:04
  Speaker 19: went to after the Patriots. That's the stumpo el grumpo.
• 47:07
  Speaker 19: The comments are, can you, Fred, please give me the
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: Patriots record two weeks after D.K.
• 47:14
  Speaker 23: Metcalf, after A.J.
• 47:16
  Speaker 19: Brown comes back? And then for E. and Deuce, do
• 47:22
  Speaker 19: you guys think this offense would look much better if
• 47:25
  Speaker 19: we traded for that coach that Chicago has, their head coach?
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: Ben Johnson.
• 47:30
  Speaker 21: I love you guys.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 47:31
  Speaker 19: Tonight, 24-7 again.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Okay. Thanks, Christian.
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: Appreciate it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: It's a lot there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I can do the first part.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I will just sort off the top of my head.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: They drafted Rohan Davey, I want to say, in 0-2,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: maybe fourth round. Third or fourth round out of LSU.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he played for any other teams.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: They drafted Cliff Kingsbury. In the sixth round, didn't make
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: the team.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: KFC.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell came a little later. He was a third-round pick.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: He did make the team, but really never made any impact.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: We're just talking about drafting, right? We're not counting like
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Brian Hoyer.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: The tall kid from.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: Ryan Mallett came later.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: Gutierrez, right?
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't a draft pick. That's why I'm skipping
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: the free agents. There was another one I'm missing that
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: they drafted.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Zach Robinson?
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Zach Robinson, the special teams guy.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Zach Robinson, Danny Ettling was drafted in the seventh round.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Does that get you to the end of Brady? Is
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: there any other quarterback they drafted during the Brady?
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, Matt Castle. Matt Castle. Forgot about Matt Castle.
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was going to say, you're missing a pretty
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: big one.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: And then Garoppolo.
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and another one.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Jacoby.
• 48:59
  Speaker 12: Who came back?
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, Jacoby Brissett was a third-round pick, yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: So you didn't stump the Grump.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: No, he did.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And he wants my record for the Patriots two weeks
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: after A.J. Brown comes back. They'll be five and three.
• 49:13
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: You don't think he's coming back until then?
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: Six weeks.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: So you think he comes back? I mean, it's weird.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's at least that. But I think
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: everybody else is like, oh, it's IR, four games. I
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: don't think he's coming back in four games. But I'm
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: surprised that Fred doesn't think that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder if it's okay to just keep
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: him on ice until the bye. and then go those
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: last seven games with him and, you know, get them fully.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Up to speed. You've got chargers, bills, chiefs, jets, Broncos, dolphins.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: You got six of the last seven.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I think when he's ready, he's he'll play now. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: don't think you put them on ice when he's ready.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: He'll play.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: I think what, what kind of complicates it a little
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: in the immediate future. So he's going to miss the
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: four games that he has to miss.
• 49:59
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 49:59
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: So that gets you, I think Miami and then a
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Thursday night game immediately following against Chicago.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Uh, Packers first. Sorry, Bears is before Miami. It'll be Steelers, Jags, Bills.
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: He's eligible to come back.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: Raiders, Jets.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: So the Jets game is the one I was thinking of.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: The Jets game and then the Bears. The Jets game
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: would be the first game he's eligible to come back.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: So does he play in that game? Kind of in
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: the back of your mind, you're thinking he's probably not
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: going to be able to play Thursday night.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Quick turnaround. So just hold him and then get him
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: all the way.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Just hold him for those two games and then see
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: if maybe he's ready after that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: Or you play him the Thursday night and then he
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: has the 10 days off until the next one.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Also an option.
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: To see if he bounces back.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Also an option.
• 50:42
  Speaker 22: I feel like November 1st against Miami, if he's ready,
• 50:46
  Speaker 22: kind of low stakes.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: You're probably going to have to score some points against
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: the Bears. So it might be helpful. You think so.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: To help him.
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: To the Ben Johnson question of that phone call.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Would you rather have Ben Johnson?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: I knew the answer to that. That's why I made
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: him answer it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: Not because I think that Vrabel's a bad coach by
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: any means.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: You don't have to apologize for liking offense. A lot
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: of people feel that way.
• 51:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: And, you know, having him with Drake for a long
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: time would be... I think the Bears are set up
• 51:19
  Speaker 10: pretty good with the two of those guys for the
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: long term. But certainly not.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: A bad second.
• 51:26
  Speaker 10: place in my heart.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think Patriots fans, too many of
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: them would trade that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: I think they like the guy they got. They like Vrabel.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: They had a connection to him as a player. Obviously,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: they had a lot of success as a player.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: And you can't argue with going 14-3 and going to
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl in his first year.
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: We'll see how, but you know, I think the big
• 51:45
  Speaker 10: thing with Ben Johnson will be when they get into
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: the playoffs, like how they got to overtime against the
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: Rams and loss. And that was a competitive game is
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: like crazy cold and everything. So it was kind of
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: a weather game, but you know, all these tight pants
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: guys like managing games and managing the clock and the
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: situation and they get late into these playoff games. And
• 52:04
  Speaker 10: some of those guys, uh, Unfortunately, my guy, Kyle Shanahan,
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: the sphincter titans. So we'll see if Ben Johnson.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't see the game, but how on earth did
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: they score 59 points? Terrible.
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: I mean, Caleb Williams had scramble lanes. He had two
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: long touchdown scrambles. 200 and something yards.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Two running backs that went over 100 yards.
• 52:27
  Speaker 10: I mean, it was.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: So what was going on?
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: It was a hot knife through butter, Fred. Completions, successful runs,
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: successful scrambles. It was unbelievable to watch some of it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: Because you don't see that in the NFL.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: No, and I will also say this. Ben Johnson has
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: made no secret of the fact that he wants to
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: break the scoring record.
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: He might just do it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: So I think you're going to see some of the
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Belichick 07 mentality where He's going to try to score points.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Why is he so angry?
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Was he on an FU tour?
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's an FU tour. I think
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: this is something that's important to him. I would argue,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: don't let irrelevant things like that crowd into your consciousness.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if you... like set the scoring record.
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: I think that he's just trying to set like a,
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: a goal for himself, a high bar for himself. I don't,
• 53:20
  Speaker 10: I think he obviously wants to win games too. I
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: think he's just, I.
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: Think if they set the scoring record, they'll probably have
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: a pretty good record.
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I understand that. But if your goal, okay, we're going
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: to get to this a little bit with Drake May. Um,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: you know, later in the show. But your goal should
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: be to do whatever you need to do that.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: Particular game, whether that means score 20 points or score
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: 50 points. That should be the goal is to win
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: the game. And I agree. He's probably, that's probably his goal.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: But I just think it's strange that they've put so
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: much emphasis on trying to break a record that really
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: is really irrelevant.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Let's face it. Who cares?
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Especially when you score 14 points in the Super Bowl.
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: The highest scoring offenses in league history are the 13 Broncos,
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: the 07 Patriots. They both played in the Super Bowl,
• 54:07
  Speaker 10: so it's not like they had bad records.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: Like Fred's point, if you break that record, you're probably
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: a pretty good team. Absolutely. They were a pretty good
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: team last year. They didn't break the record. You know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: I just think.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: If you really have this goal, and I didn't see
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: enough of the game, I don't know if they ran
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: up the score.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, the other part of the game is their
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: defense was equally as wretched. Yeah, their defense is bad.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: And they were in a humongous shootout.
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they have some concerns on that side of the ball.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: There's the flip side of that. You make that public,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: every team that comes in goes, well, you're not going
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: to do it against us. Yeah, good luck.
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  Speaker 10: How did that work for Carolina? Right up and down
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  Speaker 10: the field.
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  Speaker 4: But it was, what was it, 59 to 37 or
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  Speaker 4: something like that?
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  Speaker 5: So I would.
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  Speaker 10: You could argue that maybe they read up the score
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  Speaker 10: maybe on their last scoring drive, but Carolina did punch
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  Speaker 10: back a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: No, it was 31-31.
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  Speaker 10: So Carolina kept scoring, so they did have to keep
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  Speaker 10: scoring for most of the game.
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  Speaker 5: And again, I don't know enough.
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  Speaker 4: Did the last touchdown, was that a Belichick 07 touchdown
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  Speaker 4: that was totally unnecessary? And they said, no, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to try to score. I saw them handing the ball
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  Speaker 4: off and guys running 50 yards for touchdowns. Menungai had one.
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  Speaker 4: And Swift had one that was, like, 30-plus-yard touchdown runs
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: or 25-plus-yard touchdown runs. Like, I don't know if that
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  Speaker 4: qualifies as running the score up. Now, maybe they did
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: run it up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the last one was the 28-yard rush by Swift.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not going to stop a guy running, then
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: he's going to score.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: You've got to be able to stop that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Now, you know, Belichick would have thrown a 28-yard touchdown
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  Speaker 4: pass in that situation in 07.
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  Speaker 2: Gone for two.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I think Ben Johnson might have that in mind this year.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Curious to see if he does it.
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  Speaker 3: page listening to the Patriots game and was an active
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  Speaker 3: He recently passed away on September 9th. Wanted to let
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  Speaker 3: of life for him on Friday. So tomorrow, but. Thank you, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for the note.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Drake.
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  Speaker 17: When you walk up to the line and you're trying
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  Speaker 17: to make a split-second decision, how hard is it for
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  Speaker 17: you to... KIND OF TAKE LESS, TAKE THE PRICE, as
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  Speaker 17: opposed to what your inclination is is to make a
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  Speaker 17: big play.
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  Speaker 8: I think you know my position is built on split
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: second decisions and that's that's football you know it's a
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: game of inches it's a game of of decisions in
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: an instant and i think you get to you know
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: see the consequences when you don't make the right one
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: and you try to force one or you try to
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: maybe push it down the field. I think that's something
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: that I'd like to say you learn from, but honestly,
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: learning from it at this point needs to be a habit.
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: I think that's the purpose of practicing and getting in
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: the mindset and knowing what I need to do to
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: help this team win and knowing that every decision I
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: make at this position is put on a higher, a
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: heightened level consequence because the decisions the quarterback makes have
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: a lot to do with wins and losses. I know
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: that and respect that and realize what I need to
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  Speaker 8: do to help this team win.
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  Speaker 24: Last year you said something, I think it was after
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 24: the Titans game last year, you said something about how
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 24: you wanted to move the ball down the field without
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 24: just being a check down Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was kind of tongue in cheek probably.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: But do you feel like as you're growing here in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: your career, you're getting more comfortable with being that, you know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: quote unquote, check down Charlie, if you have to be.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, it depends on the game.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: You know, really, I think it depends on the flow
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: of the game and realizing, you know, what the defense
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: is doing and what we're trying to accomplish on offense
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: and realizing that sometimes, you know, checking it down and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: over and over, it may feel, you know, monotonous, but
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: at the same time, it's the right thing to do.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: And it keeps the chains moving. And I feel like
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: we battled the down distance well. And, We had the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: same challenge in Pittsburgh this week. We've got a tough
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: defense that can get after us up front, and they've
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: got a great front. So I'm looking forward to getting
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: back out there and have another chance another week.
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  Speaker 18: What do you see from T.J.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: Law on film?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he just wreaks havoc. Same deal as last year.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: He's been a great player in this league for a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: long time. You've got to know where he's at, and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: he enjoys it. making plays on the football, and he's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: really good at it. They have a knack for up
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 8: front of getting hands on balls, and the one he
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: made last week, you don't see that very often in
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: this league. It's really special. I can't even describe it
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: more than that. We've got to have all hands on deck,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: especially with a lot of their front. They've got some
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: great players, and they've been in that defense, been together
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: for a while, so they know how to play off
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: each other and count each other's strengths.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: When you face guys like that who are long, who
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: have that kind of length like Watt and Hayward, what
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: are some of the ways that you can go about
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: minimizing their impact when it comes to trying to find
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: your way around them in the past?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's hard to be looking at when
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: they're jumping and when they're trying to get hands up. Cam,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: Hayward had one last year that got tipped in the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: end zone and got picked, so they just have a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: special feeling for it and they've done a lot in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: their careers of making plays and past roughs, past breakups.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: It can't be something I'm really thinking about. They're going
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: to try to get their hands up. I think just
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: finding good passing lanes and moving around in the pocket,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 8: maybe some different ways. But really, I think just it's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: easy to say quick game, but at the same time,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: quick game, they know they're going to get their hands
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: up fast. So it's just being cognizant of it, and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: the guys up front have an extra little, whether it's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: technique or little things to get the hands down.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Mike talked about the difference between being aggressive versus reckless.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 14: How gradual is that process and distinction for you?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he said that since, you know, I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: got here, you know, and he's, and he became the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: head coach, you know, he's always, you know, wanting to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: be aggressive and not reckless. And I think there's, there's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: times and places for everything and realizing that, you know,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: depends on the flow of the game and how we're
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: doing offensively and, and how, what the score is and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: knowing that, you know, sometimes a few plays, you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: we look back on it can change, you know, the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: tide of a game or can change the outcome of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: a game and realizing when those are and, And when,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: you know, sometimes when we're in field goal range and,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: you know, it's third and long to get into field
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: goal range. We did that once in Seattle. Another time when,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: you know, we're in longer distance just to try to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: make it, you know, third and manageable and just try to,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: you know, manage the game and be the conductor. He
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: always tells me, you know, be the conductor and be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: the guy, you know, making the right plays and leading
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: the offense.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like you put more pressure on yourself
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: after a game like Wednesday's where maybe you didn't play
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: up to your typical standards?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: You know, I was going to be harsh on myself.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: You know, I think that's the way. I grew up
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 8: in my family, and I always felt like being hardest
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: on yourself is, you know, you can always get back
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: to having confidence and not kind of battling that line
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: of being hard on yourself, but also having confidence in yourself.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: And I think it's been throughout my whole career of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 8: having games where you feel like you didn't put out
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: your best work, and even times when you win, there's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: times where you feel like, man, I wish we could
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: have done this better, or we got lucky almost in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: this league. So just finding ways to battle that line
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: and also, you know, having the ultimate confidence and knowing that,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: you know, the guys around me and my ability and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: knowing that, you know, we can win games in this league.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 24: When you think about refining your decision-making in those split seconds,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 24: it sounds like, you know, the way you're talking, almost
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 24: like just to remember what the situation is, right? To you,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 24: Seattle is an example, like, hey, it's 13-10, we're in
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 24: field goal range. Is there anything else besides being in
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 24: those situations in games and in practice that you can
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 24: do and is a reminder part of that process yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: I think you know i love to watch you know
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: games you know and watching film in a full game
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: matter you know i think a lot of times you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: can kind of you know put a cut up of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: hey this is formation this is what they're playing and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: i think love you know watching a full game and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: or watching the second half when those decisions are even
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: you know heightened more you know in a close game
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: where you feel like hey you know what's the down
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: distance what's the time you know what's you know, how
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: many timeouts we got. I think just those end of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: the game, you know, matters, you know, the end of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: game situations and the second half when you're down or
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 8: when you're up and just watching the flow of the game.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: You know, I love doing that and try to put
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: myself in the eyes of the quarterback and what I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: would do. And I try to, you know, it's hard
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: when you're watching other NFL games to do that, you know,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: in the TV copies. But I think you try to,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: you know, find times when, you know, it's a close
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: game to try to see, hey, what would I do
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: and try to think like a coach and, you'll kind
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: of be, you know, quarterback and that's what you got
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: to do. You got a lot of thinking back there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 16: We wanted to ask about, um, a donation that you
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 16: made to a school in Rhode Island with Ann Michael.
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  Speaker 12: Uh, we talked to the teachers today.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: They were so grateful for the supply donation.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: Why'd you do it and how does, how did it
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 12: make you feel?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think my wife, you know, you know, shout
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: out to her. She's really the one that, you know,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: wanted to do it. And, um, you know, I'm all
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: on board for, you know, helping, helping others out and,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: you know, in our light and in our, you know,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: we've been blessed, you know, blessed by the Lord and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: what we have, um, you know, at our display and
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: trying to share it with others and, I know there's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: probably a lot of other schools and teachers that could
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: benefit from it and realizing that and just being thankful
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: for the position we're in and also realizing what we
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: can do and how we can help others.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 16: Having this long kind of layoff from that Wednesday game,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 16: does that make it easier to kind of flush it
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 16: away or is it harder because you don't get to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 16: get back out there?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: You've got a lot of time to think about it.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: I think that definitely over the weekend, you're just watching
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: and thinking about it and Usually, the 24 hours, you
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: think about it on Sunday night for sure, and then Monday,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: you watch it and get rid of it. This time,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: it was Thursday and Friday and Saturday, and we got
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: in there on Sunday. It just felt longer, but at
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: the same time, it's something that this league is about.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: It's about playing a game that you wish you could
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: have done things better and be able to bounce back
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: and realize that it's week one, but at the same time,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: you've got to fix these things quick and in a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: hurry because these things You know, it's not going to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: win you football games. As Coach said, it's the stuff
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 8: that gets you beat. Coach Rabel mentioned– After a night
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: like he had in the opener against– Yeah, I think
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: it's easy to say a night like he had. I mean,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: I'm the one down the sideline. I left it inside
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: for him. You know, obviously the drop, I think we
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: all know he can make that play. You guys saw
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: him in camp, you know, his ability to make plays. So,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: it's nothing that you need to, you know, do extra.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: I think a lot of times the more you try to,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: you know, have guys coming in and, Everybody's trying to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: pump him up. You feel like, man, did I do
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: a lot more wrong than I felt like I did?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: I know I've been in that situation before and been
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: in that limelight and just realizing that the more you
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: can do is just give him confidence and give him
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: some extra reps in practice. He's had a great response.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing him on Sunday.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: History. My father had a hardware store in Brooklyn, okay,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: in the city. And I'd go in there and work
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: when I was a little kid. First grade, they'd put
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: me on the subway to get sandwiches for people. And
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: I'd go to this place that they, you know, and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: I'd go get the sandwiches for everybody and bring them back.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: First grader on the subway by myself with money in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: my pocket. Oh, my God.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's great. That tops me. You know, that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: tops me.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: It's like you would never do that now. And I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: can understand that.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: But back then you went from all that to East Dennis.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: Was that a crazy transition for you going from like
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: a city to living in the middle of nowhere?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: He worked in the city. We lived in the suburbs
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: of New Jersey.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Knowing how dead it is down there. The subway
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: didn't always have a great reputation back then.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 13: Either, though.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe my father didn't like me. I don't know.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: Maybe he won't come home one day and I'll be
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: off the hook.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, you're back, huh?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment from Patriots Unfiltered. All right, back
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: here at Patriots Unfiltered. We're down Evan. He's off to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: the locker room in practice. And so we'll get those
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: reports tomorrow from him.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll get the boys pumped up.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: All right. But Paul's here. I'm here.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: Deuce is here.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Alex is here. Matt's still in the booth. And Copilot's here, too.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: We've got a Copilot read.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, Fred.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: It's time for the Copilot Question of the Week, presented
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: by Microsoft Copilot, where every day is game day and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: where every decision is powered by insight and innovation. Microsoft
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: technology helps to make decisions faster, insight sharper, and strategies
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: more adaptive.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Today, guys, we're talking about the.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: Historic Patriots-Steelers rivalry, which, of course, Patriots have beat them, what,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: three times in the AFC Championship, right?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Twice on the road, once at home.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: They did have another victory over them in the playoffs yesterday.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: 1997? Correct.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: 96.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 16: 96.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: First round there.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: It was in January of 97. Gotcha, gotcha.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: But my question for you guys, though, is they played
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: 36 times.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: What would you guess the.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 10: Overall record is for the Patriots?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: 36 times.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: And I will preface this with the Steelers dominated until 1998.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: 18 and 18.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: Close.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 26: I have no idea.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: 19 and 17.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: 19 and 17. But what I thought was interesting was that.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: 1917 in whose favor?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Patriots.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: It was 12-4 for the Steelers through 1998. So they're
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: only part of the Steelers dynasty. Yeah, my lifetime is
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: so skewed.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: That's the case with a lot of these teams.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: So before what year?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Before 98.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Before 98, it was 12-4 in favor of the Steelers.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: 1976, Patriots beat them 30-27 in the five.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Here we go. The four. Here we go.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 21: Ooh.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to just Bang this out.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: So definitely the playoff game, does that count?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: That 96 playoff game?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: Yep. 28-3.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Yep. In the fog.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: The fog.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: So that's two.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: I want to say the Patriots beat the Steelers in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: like 83.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Hold on. I had to just pull it up real quick. Yes,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: you are right, Paul.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: Was that a blowout?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: That was a 28-23 Patriots win.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: However.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: In 1986, the Patriots did blow out the score.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: 34-0.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 17: 34-0.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Paul nailed it.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: So I just thought that was interesting.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they played a lot of big games.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: But, man, it started out 12-4 Steelers, and it's been
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: 15-5 Patriots ever since, of course, that last loss last
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: year to Pittsburgh.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: So we'll see if we can make it 16-5 this weekend.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: So there are times when I do these nonsensical things
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: and Alex is looking at me and I can't tell
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: if she's like impressed or that's unbelievably sad.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Because it could go either way.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 12: This poor old guy.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: What is he?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Just those old football games.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: We all have our passions and interests.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: I've met your wife. She's normal. How does she go
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: with you? How did that ever happen? That's what I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: look at when I see Alex looking at me.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Deuce.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: That's your co-pilot question of the week. Question of the week.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: All right. 855-PATS-500 is the hotline. Podcasts at Patriots.com is
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: the email address. We were talking about Ben Johnson making
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: the goal of breaking the scoring record. Jack in Inaba writes,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: and Ben Johnson is not on an anger tour. By
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: announcing that he wants to break the NFL scoring record,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: he's playing a Jedi mind trick on Chicago fans. Chicago
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: has a porous defense. Johnson is focusing attention on the Bears'
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: high-powered offense so they don't pay attention to the Bears'
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: weak defense.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: Jack. I like it.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: No, I like it. I think that could be part
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Because their defense was pretty bad in that game.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: They were, and I think we were talking about it
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: this morning with the pick-em pool of, you know, it
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: was Carolina.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, Bryce Young threw for 360 in that game.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Put up points, right?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: And it was a close game. It wasn't like catch-up.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: At the end.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 12: They finished the season pretty good.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 16: I know.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: I was all over them.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 12: I wasn't impressed.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: They sucked. They sucked. They went 8-9. I mean, it
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: is what it is.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, they were only one game away from being
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: over 500.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: I should have got to this before Evan left. This
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: is the beef with Barth. Oh, Barth beef. Yeah, Joe
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: from the darkness writes in.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: Joe from the darkness.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: That's what he says. Is that an.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers joke?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, maybe.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 12: Remember when Aaron Rodgers went.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Into the darkness? Oh, yeah, he was living in that thing.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 12: How quickly we forget.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Murray yesterday had one of those things. Aaron Rodgers and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: his fake wife. He kept saying his fake wife.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Joe says, I was driving to work listening to your
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: discussion on McDaniel's game plan. and nearly shut my radio
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: off as usual evan is making a rational and evidence-based
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: argument which i disagreed with but added value to the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: discourse bar meanwhile is going off on nonsense that felt
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: more like culture war fodder than anything else was that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: i had an epiphany barth isn't trying to be mike
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: felder he's trying to be tucker carlson the football culture
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: wars are more benign than it is politics to be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: sure run game, calling the game to win, analytics and
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: the nerds, hating high volatility quarterbacks. Sound familiar? Barth's entire
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: role in this show has become ranting about traditional football
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: values rather than engaging in the discussion Evan is trying
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: to have. Barth, is this who you're really trying to be?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: I need a lot more information.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: So in other words, Barth wants to go back to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: the 50s, you know, When America was great, football was great.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: Well, he's getting a little of his wish.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: Like, trad lives are trending. Trad football, he wants to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 12: bring back.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: Now, too.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: You know, the multi-tight end sets.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: Teams are starting to use even some, you know, like
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: the Rams last year kind of put the three tight ends.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Teams are trying to follow that. Under center, as Mike
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: just pointed out, has been a big thing. I saw.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Something this morning on Twitter about two back sets. You know,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: even some eye formations, which we haven't.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Seen in years. 40 years.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Um, so maybe, maybe there's getting some of his wish.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: I think that's connected into what we've been talking about
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: with the prevalence of two high safeties across the league.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, teams are trying to evolve and I mean,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: it's the unending chess match between offense and defense.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's, it's part of the stuff we're talking
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: about too.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: And you know how you combat that blitz the crap
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: out of it.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Go get them.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Todd and Garner. Just want to make sure everyone keeps
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Fred from jumping off the upper balcony when the jets
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: are two and Oh, and leading the East division as
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: the bills drop their game tonight. Of course, We're going
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: to shred the Steelers. My prediction is 27-9 for the Patriots.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: And hey, Pauly, go offense, as we say in Canada.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: Offense, Todd in North Carolina, who is originally from Nova Scotia.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, I thought the Jets
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: played pretty well. I mean, I think they, you know.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: Jets did play well.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Titans may have had the worst performance. You know, most disappointing, Chargers,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: but the worst performance, some of the some of the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: ball knowers have been breaking down all the games and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: putting clips out there and they're just like brian table
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: like what are you doing and doing anything to help
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: your young quarterback at all so it will last he
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: was pretty critical yeah okay critical uh.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: let's go to nashville allen's there what's up alan.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 25: i can only reach yeah uh.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: uh.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 23: what's up uh.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 25: for some color because i love the show I'm not live,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 25: so I don't know if this has been asked before,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 25: but how do y'all feel about Jared Wilson against the Seahawks?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 25: I just watched him in the last game. Of course,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 25: I'm not watching him every single rep. I just felt
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 25: like he got blown back a ton. I saw him
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 25: get blown back into the running back a few times.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 25: It makes me a little nervous. He seems just a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 25: little small, even at center. I don't know how y'all feel.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I will say the only time I noticed him
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: is when he was on his rear end, but That
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: was only once. So I don't know if that's a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: good thing or.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: A bad thing. Yeah, I hear what you're saying, Alan.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've been kind of watching this since camp
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: in the summer, and it was billed as this is
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: his natural position. And so I think we all put
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: away our concerns and thought, oh, he'll be better there.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: But I think you're seeing the same problems you saw
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: with him at guard, where he's a little light and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: big guys with power. I mean, I saw a couple
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: of Byron Murphy beat him right off the snap. He
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: didn't even get a piece of him.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 17: So.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: Again, I would put it in the bucket of with AVT,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: like it's a new thing. Let's give it a little
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: bit of time. But like I said this morning on
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: the radio, Will Campbell right now is the one I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: feel best about. I mean, I think Morgan Moses is good,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: but I think we're always going to be on borrowed
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: time with him. I think Michael Munye is a little hefty.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: I think Jared Wilson is a new guy, and AVT
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: hasn't played in two years. But I think it's definitely
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: something to keep an eye on, especially with Cam Hayward
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: this week.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: All right, good topic there. Keep your eye on Jared Wilson.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: uh claudio writes in.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: To that point you're facing cameron hayward this week yeah
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: guy's been around a little bit a.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Little bit big boy knows the tricks yeah claudio's in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: brazil um curious he says what was the last game
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: that drake may was on the good list on a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: post-game show i feel like it's been a while patriots
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: 31 steelers 17 if that's the case he'll probably be
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: on the good list but When's the last time that
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: we were saying that was a good game for you?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Chargers? If not the finale.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he got on in the Chargers game.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: For our post-game show, he was probably on every game.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: But I would go back to the Jets game, which
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: is like the second-to-last game of the regular season. I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: think he had like five touchdowns in the Meadowlands.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: He might have snuck on in that Chargers game.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 22: I feel like you guys were avoiding him on any lists.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what happens. You make a couple good throws,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: a couple bad throws.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 12: That's what I try to do, Alex.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Someone usually overrules me when he comes down and gets
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: his donut.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: A donut.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: Everybody loves a donut.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: We have someone who used to work at the stadium
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: giving bathroom reviews. Oh, I love this.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: He says.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to work for a year, and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: I will say I did have an emergency in the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: reference tunnel bathroom. Sometimes you got to do what you
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: got to do. Best bathroom in the stadium, though. Obviously,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: the new ones on top of the GPA trim or
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: the classic jumping in a random suite.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: I know people who have done it.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Not me.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: I've done that. Finally.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: How can you discuss stadium bathrooms without mentioning the most infamous,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: the deflator bathroom? I thought it was special to use
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: it once.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: It doesn't exist anymore, does it? It does not exist anymore.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 9: It had a shower in it, too. I took a
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 9: shower in there once.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Where was it? You know where that 50-yard line tunnel
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: where they come up?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: It's right before you get to the stairs.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: It's off to the left.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 22: So now it's like the referee locker room, maybe?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: Revs are the officials that have a little room in there. Interesting.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It used to be a shower and a bathroom.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Perfect spot for it.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 12: GP atrium is probably an accurate take.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: The GP atrium, I never thought of it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: I've never thought of that. It's very isolated.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: Long way to go.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 12: You guys don't get to go up. I was in
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 12: there yesterday for community events. You guys don't get to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 12: go as often as I do.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: I was in there actually about 20, 30 minutes.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: Women don't use the bathroom.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 18: What are we doing?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: I had it all to myself.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: I just left the door open.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't even care. Girls don't poop. How about Patty
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: and Agawam? What's up, Patty?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 13: Hey, good afternoon, everyone.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 20: Hey.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 13: Pauly, like you, I'm concerned about the two tight ends
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 13: that the Steelers are going to invariably run at us.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 13: But I don't think you guys touched on Spillane being
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 13: on the injury report, which is really troublesome to me
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 13: because there's not a lot of depth behind him at
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 13: this point. I know Cleo Jacobs will be back hopefully
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 13: after a few weeks. But it's definitely a position that
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 13: they're going to have to address and next year's draft.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 13: And we all saw what happened after Spillane got injured
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 13: last year. And he just, he didn't look like the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 13: same guy. And I just kind of have those same
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 13: concerns like now at this point, this early in the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 13: season and wanted to see what you guys thought about it.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 13: I'll take it off there, guys.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: It's a great, great call out, Patty. I caught that too.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: I forgot to bring it up. He missed Monday.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: He spoke at his locker, thought it was just kind
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: of a, you know, a veteran day, but, I agree.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: It's not great. It's not great.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: And I think, I think, you know, spilling kind of
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: embodies for me where I see a lot of this
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: defense out right now, which they got a bunch of
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: free agents last year who could do the job right
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: out of the gate. But are we still ascending with
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: these guys or have we kind of seen the peak
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: of spilling and Landry and, you know, that kind of
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: group that they brought in? I think it's a huge
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: question for the defense. And I agree that they're going
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: to have to put major attention.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: And they don't have anybody that can fill that role.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing that's, that's troublesome. But, On one hand,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, it was an extra Monday practice
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: that he missed. But then on the other hand, Patty's right.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: He was listed with a knee limited. It's not like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: he just said veteran rest or whatever. So, yeah, something
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: to keep an eye on.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Travis in Watertown, Connecticut writes in, I have heard a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: lot about Drake May and the starters not playing in
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: the preseason. While I agree with Paul that playing eight
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: to ten snaps doesn't get them into a rhythm, I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: think it would have had a different benefit. May's last
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: few games were all against great defenses, and he probably
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: spent the summer thinking about the Seahawks and even building
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: them up further in his own head. So he went
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: into the season opener jumpy and overthinking the rush. If
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: he was able to play against some backups, he may
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: have been able to get some of that confidence and
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: swagger back in a real game setting rather than in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: practice where he doesn't have to worry about getting hit.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know what was in his head. I mean,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: I thought he was... I didn't think he looked unsettled early.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: I thought he got unsettled late.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 9: He got impatient.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: He got impatient.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: I do think there's something, though, potentially to... You came
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: right off that game against Seattle. You spent all summer
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: thinking about Seattle, talking about Seattle, hearing about Seattle.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Their defense is so good. What are you going to do?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: And so I'm not going to doubt that's why, but
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: I do think that that could have played a factor
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: in him being a little bit antsy and aggressive.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: So that'll buy.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: That'll buy.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: I just don't think that changes if he plays in
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: the preseason.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Especially like you're playing against scrubs and then you go
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: into the first game and These aren't the scrubs anymore.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: These are those guys that gave me a hard time
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: last time. You guys are disguising.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: What is this?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Again, I don't pretend to know Drake May intimately or
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: anything like that. I don't know what's inside and what
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: makes him tick. I don't think confidence is a problem.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Matter of fact, the problem with confidence, and Matt's got
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: some clips from Drake May yesterday. I think he has
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: a little too much confidence at times. I think on
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Tuesday I made the comment that there's a little more
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: Drew there than Brady.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: And I think you see that.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: The things that used to really drive me crazy with
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Bledsoe was that he would rely too much on his
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: immense skills and not just... sort of make the safe plays.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: And I think you see that a little bit from
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: time to time with Drake. Now, Drake has more God-given
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: skills in terms of his mobility, his running ability, and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, his ability to throw off platform. Drew
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: had probably a better arm, pure arm, than Drake May,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: but Drake May has everything else over Drew Bledsoe in
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: terms of athleticism.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: And all that stuff.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: You know, one of the comments that he made, you know,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: in sort of asked about not being checked down Charlie,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: and this was his answer to that.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: Really, I think it depends on the flow of the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 8: game and realizing what the defense is doing and what
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: we're trying to accomplish on offense and realizing that sometimes
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: checking it down and over and over it may feel monotonous,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 8: but at the same time it's the right thing to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: do and it keeps the chains moving.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, monotonous.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: So it's monotonous to him. to have a lead going
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: into the fourth quarter.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: You know, and I don't want, I'm not trying to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: beat up on Drake Mays, so please don't take this
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: the wrong way.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: And this was something that really.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: When I heard that word yesterday, I was actually on
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: one of my shows, Fred, with Bogdan Maz, because his
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: press conference goes late on Wednesdays, usually when I'm doing that.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: And I was like, monotonous. Like, so he's sort of
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: recognizing that I got bored. It's like Mike Rabel said
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: on Monday, you know, we can't get bored.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: We can criticize.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Game plans and we can have issues with the way
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: certain things are run, but like you got to do it.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 9: You know, don't worry about the style points.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: You know, and I just wonder, go ahead, Mike.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: No, I was going to say, I mean, I would
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: hope a quarterback would take kind of satisfaction in that
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: of saying, I just have to do less right now.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: I have to sit back and take, take the little
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: stuff and that's going.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: To open up.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: You know, I just, I keep talking about maturity and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: reading some of Josh McDaniel's comments.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: It sounds like he's in a similar place with patients
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: on this.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: So, You know, I just, I hope that as the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: sample size continues to grow for Drake May here in
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: his third season and his second full season as a starter,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: that he can develop that patience and develop that satisfaction
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: of saying, you don't have to put everything on yourself, Drake.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: And that's, you know, going into this game this weekend, like,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: I don't want him to have that attitude where AJ's out,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: I got to do more. Like, let your guys work
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: for you, you know, and try to take those steps.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: I think it's frustrating and surprising for people that it's like,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: just do the easy thing.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Don't force it. But I understand.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: I think, Paul, you have a good point of these
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: guys who are so talented and they want to live
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: and die with their talent and they want to use
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: that to make the difference.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 12: Because it's gotten them this far, right?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 22: And this is kind of what we were talking about
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 22: in the break a little bit, but I wonder sometimes
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 22: if it's a generational thing with just the instant gratification
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 22: and these, not to blame video games, but you play
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 22: video games, you get that instant dopamine rush. You throw
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 22: a 60-yard pass in Madden, and it's like, boom, you
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 22: win the game with that. And it's like, I wonder
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 22: if it's like the brain chemistry almost. Like, it'll take
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 22: a while to kind of shake out of that at
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 22: the beginning of a season.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: It could be. I just, I do wonder if.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Obviously, he knows, I can't throw three interceptions in the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter. But I wonder if he's thinking.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: I just didn't execute it the right way.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: If I had done it the right way, I.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: Know I can do better than I did on Wednesday.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: Listen, I know the feeling. I know the feeling.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: And before anybody, please, I don't have any problem.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: You guys sort of give me a hard time because
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: I'm always worried about things and I'm deemed to be
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: the negative guy on the show. And I don't have
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: problems with that at all.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: I don't want another quarterback. Drake Mays, the quarterback for
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: my team, is the one I wanted to draft, and
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: I've seen nothing to indicate that I was wrong about
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: wanting him with the third pick in 24. So please,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: I'm pointing out what I think might be one of
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: the things he needs to improve on, and I think
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: it's a mentality. Nothing physical. It's a mentality.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: I think he needs to be more embracing of it's
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: not always going to be a 50-yard bomb to Keishon Booty.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's got to be a three-yard check down to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: Efton Chisholm.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: It's learning to play quarterback.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: But learning to play quarterback, I think maybe that's the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: simplest way to put it. Alex, they come out raw.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: He's got a lot of physical skill that can carry
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: you in college and certainly high school. But when you
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: get in the NFL to play quarterback, You have to
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: have all kinds of different changes up and be able
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: to play the game the way it's being played.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: Good teams are going to make you do it a
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: way that you don't want.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: To do it. That's what the whole point of defense is.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Take them out of his comfort zone.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Right now, I think he's got winning the game in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: big plays at the same level.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: We've got to get winning the game.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Just winning the game, whatever the play is.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: Whatever it takes. And that's a good point because there
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: was also something I saw that was kind of interesting
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: this morning. You know, everybody points the turnover margin.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I know Mike Reese made a big deal
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: of week one teams that won the turnover ratio were
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: 13 and 0. And the other games were three and
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: three if it was even. But everybody who came out
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: in the plus side of the turnover margin won 13
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: and 0. Maybe not quite as dramatic, but the explosive
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: play thing is a real big indicator. If you come
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: out plus in the plus 25-yard plays, in other words,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: you get more of those plays than you allow, it's
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: almost like turnover margin.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: You win. So maybe I think it was 6-1 in
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: the first week.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 12: That was like their bread and butter last season.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 12: Like, how addicting must that feel?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 9: They were insanely accurate with those.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: But instead of playing Cleveland and Tennessee, you're playing Seattle
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: back-to-back games, and they don't let you do that.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 9: There's a stump to grump from Travis.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 16: Oh, nice.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: He said, this one's blatantly unfair, but it's the only
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: way to beat Pauly. What was the score of the
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: first Patriots game I ever attended? Hint, it was against
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: the Falcons at Foxborough Stadium. No year? Well, no.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: I just have to know of a game that took
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: place at Falcons.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: You have to remember all the Falcons game and pick one.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: This is almost impossible. I'm going to say they lost.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: In the 90s.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: They lost 40-10. Ooh, he's saying 41-10.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: I was at that game.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: All right. A little bit of news, too.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: Just officially announced Stephon Gilmore will be here at Gillette
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: Stadium tomorrow to officially announce his retirement.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: So he will retire.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 9: He's going to retire as a Patriot.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he's getting a contract for that,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: but he will retire as a Patriot.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: All right, one more call, and then we're going to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: get to picks because we're getting late. We've got to hurry.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Whitey is in Cambridge. What's up, Whitey? Hey, Whitey.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 23: Hey, what's going on? Hey, Whitey.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: I like that reference.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 15: So a couple of things, you know, the last, the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 15: second LA Superbowl, Drake may should watch that because the second,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 15: it was a very low scoring and, you know, Brady
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 15: was a check down Charlie and he's pretty much in
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 15: a lot of ways, road being a check down Charlie
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 15: all the way to what's going to be the hall
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 15: of fame and maybe the best quarterback ever. He did
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 15: have his deep throws, but he kind of made the most,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 15: of what he had. And it's because he, you know,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 15: the thing is being a tech down Charlie wears out
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 15: the defense. You do the, you know, you get your five,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 15: you get your four, you get your six and the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 15: defense gets tired. And that's something that doesn't happen when
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 15: you get that, you know, that quick play. And there'll
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 15: be time for the quick play. But if he watches
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 15: that second Super Bowl in L.A., he has to realize
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 15: that's the way you're going to win games against great
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 15: defensive teams. And great defensive teams are usually the ones
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 15: who make the playoffs.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: No, it's a great point, Whitey. It's a great point.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: And Brady was the ultimate check down quarterback.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: And I think you could make an argument that One
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: of the other all-time great quarterbacks was even more of
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: a check down guy, Joe Montana. You know, they made
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: careers out of winning Super Bowls by, you know, being
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: willing to throw the ball horizontally rather than vertically. Now,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: I would just, the one thing I would push back
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: on is I don't want him to be check down
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: Charlie all the time.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: I want him to be check down Charlie when the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: coverage dictates to be check down Charlie. Right.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Take what they give you.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: All right. That time of the week. Paulie, what happened
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: last week?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, so it was, in a lot of ways, a
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: typical first week where there was a lot of sort
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: of unknowns.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: Things that happen out of nowhere, like Arizona going to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles and beating the Chargers.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: You know, the more things change, Fred, the more they
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: stay the same.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: He always says that when he does good.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 9: Right, right, right.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: Paul was 11 and 5.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Fred was 10 and 6. Again, the more things change,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: the more things stay the same.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: Alex, good job.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: Nine and seven. As always, you're in the mix.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Week one.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: You know what you're doing. We're going to call you
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: Miss Ball Knower.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 16: Okay.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: Because you're always in the mix.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 12: Not picking the Niners.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: Mike, as mediocre as ever.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: Eight and eight.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: And the King Ball Knower, Evan.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 12: He got way too cute.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Five and 11.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 17: Ow.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: I got to talk to him.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: I wonder if he's using these advanced stats to pick games.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: Actually, I saw him do the game because, of course,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: I have to audit when he does his picks with
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: Paul to make sure.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: Everything's above board.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: Ernst and Young.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: No, he's just kind of firing from the hip.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 12: He's firing from the hip.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: He does. He's just like... I think if I asked him.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 12: He's got too cute.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: I think if I asked him.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: 10 minutes later... He's got like a whole folder of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: stats here.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 17: What?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 23: Me?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: But I think if I asked Evan 10 minutes later,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't write down those pics. Can you give them
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: to me again? They would be like half... Different.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: Because I do feel like the way Mike does, he's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: just sort of flying.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because now he can have issues.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't really put a lot of thought into it.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what the ones who always finish last do.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: That's my fantasy football thing.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 12: Paul, I'm going to make you start sending me his
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 12: picks immediately. So he has to have them in the newsletter.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 12: Because people don't get to hear his picks until the
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 12: next week.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: When they're these picks, it's probably for the best.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: They don't get to hear his pick.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 12: They don't actually ever get to hear his pick. They
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 12: just know his record.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: So with the spread, it was a struggle for everybody. Alex, Paul,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: and Fred went 8-8. Mike went 7-9. And Evan went 6-10.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: So we all struggled with the spread.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: But, you know, 8-8.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: 8-8.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: Week one.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: Made money. Well, actually, I lost money on the VIG,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: but that's okay.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: On the VIG.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: On the VIG.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 16: All right.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: So tonight, Thursday night, I'll be watching Detroit 1-0 against
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Buffalo 1-0.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: Buffalo opens their new high mark or whatever it's called, stadium.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Buffalo by five and a half.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: That's a big number, but yeah, I was really impressed
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: with the way Buffalo came out of the gates. I mean,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: tough place to play, tough defense to go against there
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: in Houston and You know, Detroit started off good, but
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: then they just, like, took a nap.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: Detroit had a 21-0 lead.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: As Vrabel likes to say.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to go Buffalo at home, but I
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: got respect for this Detroit offense still.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points for Detroit.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: I'm going to take Buffalo at home. Five and a half.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 12: I'll take Detroit to cover as well.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: So I think that's the right pick. I'm going to
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: go with that.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: I think that Buffalo's defense has a chance to be
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: better than it looked last week. But until I see it,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to predict it. So I'll have respect
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: for Jameer Gibbs and Jared Goff and those receivers with Detroit.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: I'll take them to cover. But I will take Buffalo
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: to win at home.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: Detroit. Both ways.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: Didn't see that coming.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: Detroit wins the game. Well, we've got to have Buffalo lose.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: That's why I have a one-game lead on you. All
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: of the arguments that you have on this side of
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: your head.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: No, man, I probably won't watch the whole game unless it's.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: I definitely won't watch the whole game.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: So I want to wake up tomorrow, check my app,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: and boom, with a Detroit win.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Do a notification. Just have it waiting for you.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: I'll show you how to do it. All right.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: Sunday at 1. Twitter alerts. Carolina against Atlanta. Both teams 0-1-1.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: They're at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: It's Carolina by two and a half. One of the
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: rare road favorites this week.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, against Cooper Rush again.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: I think so.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Such a weird, like, I didn't even know he was starting.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, it was like. Well, Tua got
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: hurt in practice on Saturday.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: I never even put that all together.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: Friday or Saturday, something like that. Yeah, I thought Carolina
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: put up some points. I'm going to go with them
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: on the road, and I'll lay the points.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 12: I'll take Carolina as well.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, Alex told me Carolina was spunky at the end
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: of last year, so I'm going to take them to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: win on the road. Carolina.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Carolina as well.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 9: I think Atlanta.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: I got a feeling they're taking the season, but I
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: don't know. New Orleans 0-1 against Baltimore 1-0 at the
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: M & T Bank Stadium.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: Ravens by 8.5. Big number.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, dear.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: No respect for Tyler Schuch in his 400 yards is passing.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: That's comfortable to me.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: Against the Lions.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 17: He's all right.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: He's one of those guys that does a really good
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: job of keeping both teams in the game.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: Right, right. That's perfect. Yeah, definitely going with Baltimore in
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: this one. And then they're at home.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 6: And I see they won four of the past five
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: against the Saints. I'm going to lay the points with Baltimore.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: Even though I think Zay Flowers, there's a bunch of guys. Yeah,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: did I see something about Zay Flowers?
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson mispracticed. Yeah, Trey Flowers.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Lane is on IR, I think, one of their receivers.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: Zay Flowers dealing with a hamstring. I think he could
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: be out, which is problematic.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: It's a full Zay Flowers experience. Like, looks amazing, and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: then he's out with a hamstring.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 12: I will pick Baltimore to win. And for now, they
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 12: will also get the benefit of the doubt with the spread.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take Baltimore to win, but I
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: will take those points. I think the Saints.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 12: Go, Marcin.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: I think they're plucky.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: Paul, that's why you're leading. I agree. Baltimore wins, but
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: they do not cover.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: It's a big number, eight and a half. Big number
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: early in the season.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Sunday at one, Minnesota at Chicago.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: What's up, Bears? By four and a half.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: This is fun to see Brian Flores' crazy-ass defense go
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: against that.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: You think blitzing over 80% of the snaps is crazy-ass?
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: All zone, all blitzing.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 9: I like that description.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: It's a crazy-ass defense.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Brian Flores. This is my crazy-ass defense. But
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: I think they'll.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: Maybe not allow 60 points, but I still think Chicago
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: will score enough to win.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take Chicago both ways.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: Same.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 12: Go with Evan's guy.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely like Chicago in this game. I'm a
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: little worried, though, because I think Caleb Williams has struggled
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: with Flores in his short career so far.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: Minnesota has won three of the past four.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: And he's really kind of made Williams look bad. But
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take Chicago. I think this is a
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: different Caleb Williams.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an interesting one. I'm going to take
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Chicago as well. I believe in Ben Johnson.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 9: I believe, I don't care who you're playing.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: Scoring 59 points in the NFL is a feat. All right.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: Sunday at 1, Cincinnati 1-0 at Houston 0-1.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: Houston by 2.5.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Sounds like Joe Burrow might be dealing with a tight
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: back already. Oh, really? Not great for them.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go with Houston at home. But another
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: good game I'll be interested to see.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 12: I like Houston both ways.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: I think Houston showed me something offensively, and that's a
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: good defense that looked really bad.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: I think they bounced back.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Texans.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm contractually obligated to pick against Cincinnati, and so
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: I will do so.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: I hate when I take the team that's playing Cincinnati
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: because it deprives me of a chance to pick up
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: a game on Fred.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Sunday at 1, Green Bay at New Jersey, and I'm
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: talking about the Jets.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was interesting that Todd in North
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: Carolina penciling this game in for a win for the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: Jets against Green Bay. Green Bay by three and a half.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 8: On the road.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: That's another one of the road favorites.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Felger's rant about Green Bay.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: He's out on Green Bay until they get rid of LaFleur.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: Hilarious.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: It's so funny to see him play that. Watch me.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: He goes, watch me.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: Just killing a team that I care nothing about. It
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: was a lot of fun. I thought the Jets looked
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: pretty good. I can't quite take them, though. I'm going
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 6: to take Green Bay, but I'll take, what was it,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: three and a half?
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: Three and a half.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: I'll take the points with the Jets.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: Look at you.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 12: I'm going to go Green Bay.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 22: Both ways. I, I need, I need to see more
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 22: out of the jets to really have that confidence.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take green Bay to win the game
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to take the hook. Um, I do
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: think the jets are not, I think everybody looks at
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: the jets in Miami. Like those are the two bottom dwellers.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're the same. I think the jets
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: have some players.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: And if Gino Smith plays at a reasonable level, he
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: doesn't have to be a world. He doesn't have to
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: do what he did like two years ago, three years
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: ago in Seattle. But just play reasonably well. I think
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: they have pieces in place on offense to be competitive.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to take the points.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Paul, you did it again. This is a TTN game.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: The betters call this a thread the needle game. And
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to thread the needle. I'm going to take
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: Green Bay to win, but I'll take the points.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Parlance.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: I don't think that that's what the betters say.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: I just said it.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: We're not a better. We're not allowed to be.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: All right. Next game. is at one Cleveland. Oh, and
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: one at Tampa Bay. Oh, and one.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: No, the big spread Tampa by eight and a half.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, after the way Cleveland looked, I can see
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: why it's that way. But Tampa didn't look too great either.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, the turnovers and Baker's just a thrill ride
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: as he always is.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: Four fumbles.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: Four fumbles.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take, I'm going to take Tampa. I
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: think they clean it up. I just think, I think
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: Cleveland's a disaster right now. And I'm going to lay
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: the points to feel a little crazy doing that, but
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: I'm going to, I am too.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: So I'm definitely taking Tampa to win the game. I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: think I'll lay the points too. I don't know what's
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: going on with Todd Munkin and sort of almost feels
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: like everybody wants Sanders to play. And because of that, well,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to play him. You know, which is
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: the wrong reason. But that's what it just seems like
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: from afar. They just look like a mess. I'll take Tampa.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker bakes. So I will go with Tampa.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: Actually, Ann Michael bakes. Baker fumbles.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Baker bakes.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 12: Well, did you read Men's Health with Drake May?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 5: I did not.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 22: I think Ann Michael might be limiting the sweets.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 12: Just no weekday sweets.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: For herself or for Drake?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 12: I think it's more for Drake.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 12: I guess he's like addicted to milkshakes.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: But my wife made just a delicious zucchini bread. Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: Cinnamon in it and everything. Oh, like I didn't even
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: taste the zucchini.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, so you can't taste the zucchini.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 12: Remember when you, what would you say? Zucchini parm? And
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 12: people were like, what?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: Did you get an eggplant?
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: You could do it. It's a thing.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, fried zucchini is great, but that definitely meant eggplant.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: I do remember the zucchini parm.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: That was funny.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: But I was like thinking that would work. I was like,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: that makes sense to me. I mean, zucchini is similar
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: to an eggplant, right? It's the same genre.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: But, uh, the zucchini bread was really, really good. I
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: didn't taste the zucchini. Um, all right. Sunday at one Philadelphia,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: one and O at Tennessee.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, and one Eagles, big road favorite by seven.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 11: Hmm.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: I definitely taken Philly. Um, I just don't know how
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: I feel about those points, especially on the road.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. Of course, Tennessee stinks. I'll lay the points.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Go with the big spreads this week.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 12: Philly, Philly.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles both ways, too.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: This is another example of, you know, I don't think
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: the Titans are as bad as they looked, but I've
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: got to see it before I say that that isn't
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: as bad as they are. So I'll take the Eagles
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: to play two good halves. Last week I thought that
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: they played, Solid for a while and then kind of
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: struggled down the stretch. I think they play a little
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: better this time.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with the Eagles as well. I think
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: Tennessee stinks. All right, now we skip over the Patriots
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: at 1 o'clock. And we move to 4.05 on Sunday.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: We've got Jacksonville.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 17: Where?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: At Denver.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: For their home opener. What's that for their home opener?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Kansas city is a little different. Sometimes they allow Kansas
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: city to play at home, even if it's at Denver.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: So, because it was my homes is right.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: And just get that away.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: Tom Cruz.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a, this is a really good matchup.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe the best matchup of the week. Um, Denver by
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: two and a half.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: I just, I thought Jacksonville looked excellent last week. Um,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I watched that game. I'm going to tell you. And I,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I've realized too, guys? No, I hate
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: the Broncos.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: I think it's like, yeah, like I think it's a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: generational thing. Like I've realized how much the Broncos have
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: been a thorn in the Patriots side for like basically
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: all of their existence. So I just feel like as
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: a member of the organization, I need to just hate.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: I just need to fully commit to hating that the Broncos.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: You need to know any more of the, behind-the-scenes hatred
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: like that. I'll set up a meeting with Fred, and
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: he'll give you all the notes.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: I know that he doesn't like Denver. He always picks
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: on Denver, but I just think it needs to be said.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: I used to love Denver. He actually loves Denver.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: I used to love Denver.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: But I'm talking about the grievances with the Patriots against others.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm working my way up.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: He'll fill you in on all of those.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: I'm working my way up. So, yeah, I'm going to
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: take Jacksonville. I'll take the points.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 12: One more time on the spread for me?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: Denver by two and a half.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 12: Jacksonville.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so Jacksonville went into Denver last year and actually
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: just laid a whooping on them. They made that really
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: good defense look awful. So I don't know if Liam
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: Cohen has something.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: 34-20.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: Or not, but I'm going to take Denver to bounce back.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: That was an awful performance, I thought, on both sides
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 4: of the ball Monday night against Kansas City.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: So I'll take Denver at home.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 9: You mentioned Liam Cohen.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: He's another guy that Starting to gain a lot of
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: respect for these young coaches.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: UMass quarterback.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to go with Jacksonville to win this
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: game in Denver. In Denver.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: What should be huge is to have Denver start 0-2, right?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: Well, we'll see, too, because Jacksonville next.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Up for the Patriots.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: How do they feel coming off a win or a loss?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, though, nice to see Liam
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: Cohen overcome that stupid Duval thing.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Sometimes guys step in it and they say something.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: He's got a little crazy in him.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: He does. But now people don't care because he's got
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: the crazy eyes.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: He does have the crazy eyes, Fred.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: Crazy eyes.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 12: Is he from Massachusetts, too?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know that.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen? I don't know. Sunday, 4-0-5. The Raiders, 1-0
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: at the Chargers, 0-1.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: Chargers by six and a half.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: She's still getting some love. Yeah, I'm going to go
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: with the Chargers to bounce back. That's just a tough one.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points, though, for Vegas.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: I think it's a division game, and just in case
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: the Chargers don't get it together, I think Vegas will
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: put some points up.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 12: I'll hesitantly also split it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: Split the baby?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I....
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: I think for Mike's reason, I'm going to do the
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: same thing. You know, division game, you know, Raiders are 1-0.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: See if they can carry any momentum. But I like
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: the Chargers to bounce back and get a win.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going with the Chargers both ways. However, if they
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: lose this game, I think there's going to be some
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Harbaugh talk going on in a negative way.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: There should be.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 12: Liam Cohen is from Warwick, Rhode Island.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: Okay, Rhode Island.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: Matt?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 11: Island.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: It's your people. Yeah, you lose home games to start
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: the season to Arizona and the Raiders. There should be talk.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: What are you doing? What's going on over there?
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: Sunday, 425 Seattle.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 9: We know them.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: 1-0 at Arizona.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 15: 1-0.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: Seattle is, I believe, the last road favorite of the
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: week by three and a half.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: Sorry, three and a half, Seattle.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Paul, this is a good one for who owns each other.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Seattle has won the last nine.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: Straight against the Cardinals. So, henceforth, I'm going to take Seattle.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 6: What was it, four and a half?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: Three and a half. Three and a half.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: Three and a half, I'll take Seattle.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 12: Seattle, Seattle, pray for Jacoby.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that stat about nine in a row.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: Got to win eventually.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: But it's not going to prevent me from making this
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: my upset special. Oh, yeah?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 17: Really?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 9: I know what Paul's doing here.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 9: I know what he's doing.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: No, he's been thinking.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: He was thinking a lot about this this morning.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: So he'll tell you for a different reason that I'll
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: explain off air. But if you hit the reason why
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: I'm doing it, I'll tell you that you're right.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: Well, this is why.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: I promise you I'll tell you you're right. You'll never
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: admit this. I promise you I will if you're right.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: So when Arizona wins, Seattle lost to Arizona. You can't
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: even beat the team that, you know.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 5: No. I mean, you're close. But it has really nothing
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: to do with the Patriots.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: Kobe Myers is checking it down, no problem.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: Who's playing quarterback for Seattle?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 16: Drew?
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 13: Drew Luck.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: That's why I'm picking them. It's as simple as that.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: I'm picking the backup quarterback on the road against a
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: team that's feeling really good about itself.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: But still, see, they could stop him. You couldn't.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, they only allowed 13 points.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you for admitting that.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Jacoby, just give it to Jeremiah Love.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: Thank you for admitting what the final score was. I mean,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: it's really not an admission. I'll take Arizona to fully upset. Tuesday,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: they let Drew Luck go up and down the field.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: In the second half. You missed the last part of that.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: I'll go with Seattle both ways. I actually think Seattle's
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: a good team. The Patriots lost to a good team.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: I think if Darna was playing this game, I'd be
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: laying double-digit points.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: Again, Seattle wins with their defense. They don't win with
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: their offense. Sunday, 425. Washington at 0-1. Go to Dallas 0-1.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: Dallas by four and a half.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 9: They just love those Cowboys.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: How about them Cowboys? Another one of the more disappointing
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: starts of the season with this game with the Giants.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: You know, Jim Harbaugh. John Harbaugh. Sorry, getting him going.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: Shoot, I just, I don't, I think I'm going to
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: go Dallas on this one. I don't have a good
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: feel for this game. Division game, though, I'll lay the
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 6: points at home.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 12: Dallas to win. Commanders to cover.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: I'm with Alex. Dallas wins the game, but Washington finds
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: a way. Who, like, you talk about all the different
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: random scheduling quirks. Washington starts off with two division games
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: on the road.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: That's not fair.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: That's lousy. That's lousy. But I'll take Washington to cover.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: The Sharps have different ways of describing different fan bases.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: They describe Washington's fan base as a sideline fan base
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: because they sit things out. They haven't really been active
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: in the market for a long time, and this spread
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: is indicative of that. They're trying to bring in the
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Washington money, but Washington wins this game outright.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 9: Washington wins this game outright.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 5: Upset pick of the week? I think that's highly possible.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: I think Washington has a good track record against Dallas.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: Sunday, 425. Miami, 0-1.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: San Francisco, 1-0.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: Here's your biggest spread of the week. Niners by 13.5.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: Jeepers creepers. That's a lot. All right. Well, obviously, San
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: Francisco to win. Yeah, man.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: I don't think Miami's got anything other than H-hand. So,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: I'll I'll lay those 13 and a half.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 12: Niner gang.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a big spread, and I don't like
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: giving away that amount of points, but I'm going to.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a reason why.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, out there, fantasy football players, if you've got Christian McCaffrey,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: play him.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 9: He's going to have a big game.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: Can't get that just anywhere.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: You've got to pay for it.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: Sunday night, 820, the Colts at Kansas City.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: Kansas City by six and a half.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: And another home game, by the way. The Chiefs are
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: quickly becoming the Broncos when it comes to home games.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 12: In primetime at that.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm annoyed by that.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: Why? What did you say?
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: It's two weeks into the season, and I have to
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: see multiple teams multiple times in primetime.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: Kansas City in this one, the Giants in the next one.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: Spit it out.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: I want to see other teams.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 9: What's the spread?
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 5: Six and a half. Chiefs by six and a half.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: I'll take Casey to win, but I'm going to take
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: those points for Indianapolis. I think it's going to be
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: low scoring and a lot of running.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: By the two teams.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it'll be closer, too. What do you said?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 9: I know what you're thinking, Paul.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 17: No.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: You're thinking of taking the Colts, aren't you?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: I was, but they burned me last week and got blistered. So, again,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: I need to see it now before I say I
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: was wrong about the Colts. So I'm going to take
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: Kansas City. And I'll take the points with six and
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: a half.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: Paul, you're right with me. I was tempted to take
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: the Colts as well, but I'm not there yet. I
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: think they're a good team.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: I think they're better than they looked last week.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to take the Chiefs to win, but
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: I'll take the points.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily defensively, though. That was a pretty bad performance
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: against Baltimore.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Monday night, it's the Giants, 1-0, the new darlings of
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: the tri-state area against the Rams, 0-1. What is wrong
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: with you?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: The Rams by seven.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: It's another good, fun little game here. It's a tough one.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: It is a tough one.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take the Rams to win the game,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: but I'm going to take the plus seven points for
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 6: the spunky Giants.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: And I think they're going to be like all over
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: the map. It's just, you know, offense.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: And then they give up big play and it's just
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: going to be a throw ride. depending on how you
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: feel about the Giants. But I'm going to take the Rams.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: Do we think that was a lot of the flight stuff?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 6: The Rams, that was just an Australia one-off.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: You can't discount it because they were terrible.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: I can't discount it because it's never happened before. So
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: maybe that is a thing. I don't think it was
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: much to do with that.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: They just don't play well in Australia. It's a thing.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: Historically.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: I think the Rams will win. They're too good.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 12: Rams win. Rams cover, I guess.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take the Rams both ways. I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: think that they have a lot of respect for their coach.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: Their coach took some heat for doing it the way
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: he did it, and I think they would rally for
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: him and put a much better performance together.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: I'll take the Rams, but the Giants cover. I'm actually
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: tempted to take the Giants in this game as well,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: but we'll see.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: If the Giants win the game, all right. You know,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of bad stuff going on with the Rams.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: They lose Miles Gary. I mean, the big prize thing.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: He's out. He's on IR.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 12: The expectations.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the expectations sometimes.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: Katie, bar the door.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: They can weigh you down.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: You got Scataboo. You got, you know, Jackson Dart, who's
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: made for New York.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: Neighbors.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 9: Have you seen his drips?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 8: Rivals?
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 12: Oh, I saw a hilarious tweet.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: They got the NASCAR front on defense. I mean, they're
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: a good team to watch. I mean, we'll.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: See if John Harbaugh pulls it all together, but Joe
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: Burrow's got nothing on Jackson Dart when it comes to
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 6: dressing up.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: It's like the one-eye thing going on. I don't know.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: Lisa Left Eye Lopez?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 7: No, no.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel like her raps were always necessary for
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: the songs. They kind of usually took me out of it.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: Somebody said about Joe Burrow's outfit that he looks like
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: someone on their way to do a four-year lease for
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: a Subaru.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of Subarus in my town.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 12: He's got an endorsement deal with Aloe Yoga.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: Stay away from that one.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 12: And I don't think they're doing him a lot of favors.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati way. It's the Cincinnati way.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: We got one more game.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: All right. Now we go back. The Sunday at one
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: where all games should be played.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: Has God intended.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh 1-0 against the 0-1 New England Patriots.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: Patriots by five and a half.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: That's a lot of respect for the Patriots.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Listen, all you Patriots fans who say that the
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: Patriots don't get respect, you can't say that this week.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I think the Patriots got a lot of respect.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: They know what I know in that game against Seattle.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: That was a game against two teams. NF Super Bowl contenders.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: And it was a fist fight, and they lost 13-10,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: but they're a good team, and that's reflected in the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: spread this week.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Patriots.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 6: I think they get their butts in gear this week,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: you know, win the line of scrimmage a little more,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: a little more in the run game. Drake makes a few,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 6: I guess, a couple less mistakes, maybe one or two,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 6: but I'm going to take the Patriots 23-13.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: 27-17 New England.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 5: Alex has it all wrong. I'm going to take the
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 5: Patriots to win 27-16. For all the reasons we talked
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 5: about all week, I think they bounce back. I think
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: they've had a lot of time to stew over a
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: bad performance in Seattle. And the home crowd gives them
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: a little energy. I'd like to see Romeo Dobbs get
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: involved early. Get that... Let's not have that be a thing. Early, medium, late.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: Get them involved.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: And I think the turnovers that killed them in this
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: game last year do not repeat themselves. Matter of fact,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: it's the Patriots defense that is forcing turnovers.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: Let's go. So I'm still waiting to see about this
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: offense for the New England Patriots. And because of that,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: I've tempered my score a little bit.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 7: 29-11.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 9: Patriots win.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: I was waiting for like 56 to 10.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: I can't go into the 30s yet. I can't go
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: into the 30s yet.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 5: I've tempered my score a little bit.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 7: 29-11.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: Patriots win the game.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: Three-score win. I've tempered my score.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: That's going to be it for this week's Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:58:47
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• 1:58:52
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• 1:58:52
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