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Why Five Members of a Bronx Family Were Fatally Shot and Stabbed in a “Bloodbath” · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep dive. This is where we really
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get into the dense sources, the complex stories, and pull
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out the insights you need to know. Today we are
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doing a deep dive into a crime that honestly still
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chills me. It's one of the most brutal acts of
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family violence New York City has ever seen, the Bronx
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family blood bath of two thousand. Our mission really is
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to unpack how this happened. How could deep seated failure,
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money issues, and just toxic family ties explode into something
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so methodical, so personal, and full of carnage. Okay, let's
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set the scene right away. Picture this. It's Friday night,
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March third, two thousand. We're in the Parkside houses, all
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little neighborhood, the Bronx for the people living there, a
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lot of first second generation immigrants, these tidy brick apartment buildings.
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They represented something solid, stability, you know, the American dream
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hard won. But that night, that dream, that's stability, it
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just shattered. You have these two young kids, a six
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year old girl, her thirteen year old brother. They're just
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doing a normal thing, trying to meet their mom coming
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home from work. They get in the elevator at twenty
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eight to twenty five, Allinville Avenue, and what they find
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it changes everything. Slumped against the wall, blood pooling around her.
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It's their mother, Evelyn Santos, thirty nine years old. She's
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been shot twice and horrifically stabbed multiple times. The sheer violence.
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Investigatorsknew right away this wasn't some simple robbery gone bad.
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It was much darker.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that absolutely horrifying discovery by her children, that
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was just the very first piece. It quickly unraveled into
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one of the most sprawling, most alarming crime scenes the
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forty eighth Precinct had ever dealt with. What immediately terrified
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investigators wasn't just Evelyn's death itself horrific, as it was
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more than that. It was the realization, you know that
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this was only the beginning. This was the start of
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a chain of killings. Over the next really harrowing ten
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hours or so, detectives would end up finding five victims,
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all connected, all members of the same seemingly close extended family.
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And when you see that pattern, brutal killings, different locations,
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but linked victims, the question shifts immediately, doesn't it. It's
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not just who did this, but Why why this family,
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Why with such calculated malice.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely that initial police thought maybe a drug guilt gone wrong,
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maybe some disorganized gang thing. It just didn't fit. The
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evidence on the ground. The forensics told a different story.
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This was sustained, it was intimate. It was, like you said,
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the implosion of kinship driven by this incredibly deep personal rage.
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Let's lay out the victims, trace the geography of this,
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because it's chilling. The killer move across three different buildings,
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all within blocks. He shows someone operating with a clear
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and just devastating plan. So the victims were Evelyn Santos
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thirty nine, the mom the home health aid found in
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the elevator. Then her son, Jose Santos Junior, just fourteen
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years old, a bright kid. Evelyn's older brother, Jose Santos
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Senior forty three, he was kind of the family patriarch,
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had a small business, his friend and business partner, Luis
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Aguilar forty two, and Evelyn's sister in law, Maria Santos, forty,
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the neighborhood seamstress. Five people linked by blood by marriage,
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all killed in less than half a day.
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Speaker 2: It's staggering, and by dawn Saturday, March fourth, as investigators
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are trying to process these three separate but obviously linked
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crime scenes, the motive is still murky, but the brutality undeniable.
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Speaker 4: Let's look closer at those scenes.
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Speaker 2: When police went into Jose Santos Junior's apartment, I mean,
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the scene was just horrifying. The boy fourteen found in
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his bedroom, killed with a single bullet right behind his
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left ear. Oh god, that detail, a clean shot, likely
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while he was asleep or maybe subdued. It screams execution style.
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It's different from the frenzy elsewhere. It suggests maybe utter
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contempt or just cold calculated efficiency on the last most vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: One, Jose Senior's place, most is chaos. Wasn't it pure violence?
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Speaker 4: Utterly?
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Speaker 2: Jose Senior and Aguilar were found right near the apartment entrance.
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Aguilar shot dead right when the door opened, quick like,
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he was just in the way exactly. But Jose Senior,
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he got something much more personal and much more drawn out.
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He was shot, yes, but also stabbed repeatedly. And the
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knife tells a story there. The weapon, it was a
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big hunting knife. It was actually still in Jose Senior's
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neck when the police arrived, still still embedded. An NYPD
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official at the time, quoted in the just called the
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whole situation across the building's carnage. And you have to
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imagine what first responders walked into. Floors slick with blood,
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that overpowering metallic smell of death, wall smeared evidence of
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a desperate physical fight.
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating forensically speaking, and immediately flagged this as personal.
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The fact that the killer wasn't satisfied with just the gun.
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Guns are quick, they create distance, but the repeated stabbings
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close range at multiple scenes, especially the overkill on Evelyn,
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that signals a huge emotional investment, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's not about getting money or valuables. It's about
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inflicting maximum pain and maximum destruction. That level of frenzied,
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excessive violence that became the key forensic signature. It screamed
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personal vendetta. It ruled out any simple criminal motive pretty quickly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see why drug deal gone wrong just
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didn't stick exactly.
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Speaker 2: And the community's reaction, you know, it reflected that confusion
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and horror. The parks houses they were suddenly just paralyzed
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with fear. These are neighbors people who saw the Santos
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family every day lived shoulder to shoulder. They couldn't grasp
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how something so violent, so intimate could happen. So in
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that vacuum of information, people started reaching for explanations, right
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whispers about a family curse, grasping its straws, or trying
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desperately to fit it into a narrative they understood like
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a high stakes drug deal. It really shows that cognitive
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dissonance that struggled to comprehend when unimaginable violence hits a
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family that seems like such an anchor, such a pillar
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of stability in the community. And to really get why
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the killer's rage was so intense, we have to understand
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the family he targeted. The Santos family story, it's absolutely
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central here. They were immigrants, came from the Dominican Republic,
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arrived in the Bronx late nineteen eighties, part of that
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huge wave of migration, you know, driven by poverty, political
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and rest back home. They came looking for opportunity for
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that American dream.
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Speaker 1: And by all accounts, they were making it happen slowly, surely.
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They settled in the Bronx, which was and is a
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huge hub for Latino emigrants. And they were moving beyond
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just surviving, right, they were starting to aspire.
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Speaker 2: Jose Santo Senior, he really embodied that climb. Known for
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being sturdy, hard working, hens calloused, quick laugh. He set
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himself up as a handyman, a small contractor, fixing roofs,
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painting local shops. And the big symbol of his success,
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the thing that really grounded him was getting that modest
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co op unit in Parkside houses.
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Speaker 1: That's a big deal, owning, not just renting.
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Speaker 4: Huge deal.
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Speaker 2: It was a profound symbol of stability. They'd fought for
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a concrete sign. They were beating the odds, especially in
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a neighborhood still finding its feet after the crack epidemic
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devastation of the eighties.
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Speaker 1: And the family structure seemed really strong, supporting that climb.
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Evelyn Santos, the mom, working tough night shifts as a
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home health aid. She was the anchor, her son Jose Junior,
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only fourteen but already bright, academic dreaming of being an engineer,
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planning a future. And Ria Santos, the sister in law,
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the seamstress. She was the social hub, wasn't she fixing
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prom dresses, hosting those weekly Sunday barbecue.
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Speaker 2: Yes, those barbecues, the plantains, the meringue music. Those were
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the rituals connecting their present life in New York back
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to their roots in Santo Domingo.
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Speaker 4: It kept the family fabric strong.
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Speaker 2: Their biggest asset was how tight knit they were, that
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family's moo, that deep cultural expectation of loyalty, mutual support.
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Speaker 4: It was real for them.
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Speaker 2: Like their neighbor Carmen Rees said in her testimony, they
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were the good ones quote, always helping with groceries or
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watching kids. You don't think evil like this happens to
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people like them.
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Speaker 4: Just devastating.
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Speaker 1: But even with all that progress, that recovery happening in
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the Bronx, back then, early post Giuliani era, there were
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still pressures right, subtle economic things bubbling under the surface.
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Speaker 2: Definitely those construction and contracting jobs Jose seniors bread and butter.
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They were getting scarcer, more competitive. City economics were shifting,
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and there were whispers nothing major, maybe, but whispers of
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some financial strain, maybe some minor marital stress for Jose Senior.
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The kinds of pressure there's any family faces when they're
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trying to climb in a tough environment.
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Speaker 1: Which raises that critical question, how did those kind of
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background societal pressures, the money stress, the fight for stability,
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how did they intersect with someone else in the family orbit,
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someone deeply marginalized.
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Speaker 2: Right, Because the Parkside houses, they were close to the
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industrial edges along the Bronx River. So even if the
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Santos family themselves were totally legitimate, totally striving that fringe element,
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the desperation of low level crime, unemployment, it was always
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physically close. So the pressures might have been external, but
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the way they got weaponized, that came from deep inside
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the family network, intensely internal.
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Speaker 1: And that weapon, that trigger it turned out to be
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Miguel Aponte, twenty eight years old, not a stranger at all.
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He was a distant cousin, part of that extended Dominican
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family tree. But he was kind of on the fringes.
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Wasn't he a drifter, someone who'd crash on family couches
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now and then when he was between things, often showing
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up unannounced from upstate Exactly?
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Speaker 2: And a Ponte's life story is almost a perfect tragic
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mirror image of the Santos family success. Where they were climbing,
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he was falling. He actually had potential, was a promising
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student once, but then he got tangled up in the
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system juvenile detention for petty theft, and his path just
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derailed completely. After that, his life became the string of failures,
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bouncing between jobs, construction, labor, dishwashing, couldn't hold anything stable down.
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By ninety nine, he's living in this rundown motel up
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in Yonkers, surviving on welfare, and all the while just
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stewing in this intense, burning resentment every time he saw
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his relatives, the Santos family, achieving the kind of modest
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stability he felt he deserved but couldn't grasp.
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Speaker 1: And the thing that really seemed to crystallize it all,
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the focal point for his failure versus their success was
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this debt right, a bitter dispute over money.
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Speaker 2: Yes, two years earlier, Jose Senior, the patriarch, the one
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making it work, he'd been generous. He gave a Ponte
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a five thousand dollars loan. A Ponte wanted to start
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a car repair business, which failed, which failed, and that loan,
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it was never repaid, not even really acknowledged properly. It
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just hung there, becoming this huge symbol of a Ponte's
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collapse and that five thousand dollars. It was way more
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than just money, especially in their shared cultural context. It
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symbolized a Ponte well his emasculation. Jose Senior had acted
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as the provider, extended that hand, and a pontiff failed
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to honor the obligation financially, sure, but also relationally. It
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was a deep shame. People who knew a Ponte described
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him as chronically hot tempered, you know, quick to get
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into bar fights over things other people wouldn't even notice.
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Speaker 4: Imagine slights.
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Speaker 2: That debt became this constant, unavoidable reminder of his failure
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compared to Jose Senior, the successful provider and.
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Speaker 1: The family knew about this envy, didn't they. It wasn't
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a secret, No, it wasn't.
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Speaker 2: The court documents they included some really painful testimony from
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another cousin talked about a Ponte's behavior at family gatherings.
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He'd show up with nothing, eat the food Maria and
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Evelyn had cooked, and then astonishingly, he'd complain. The quote
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was he'd complain about how they forgot where they came from.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that tells you everything, isn't it. The level of delusion,
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it really does.
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Speaker 2: He saw their success not as earned, but as a
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betrayal of their shared roots, like they were deliberately shutting
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him out of the prosperity pie.
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Speaker 1: So that night, March third, that whole toxic mix of rage, frustration, humiliation,
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it just finally boiled.
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Speaker 4: Over, it did A.
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Speaker 2: Ponte drove down to the parkside houses, got there around
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eight PM, said he was just dropping by for a
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casual visit.
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Speaker 1: But he wasn't empty handed, not at all.
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Speaker 4: He came armed.
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Speaker 2: He had an illegally bought point three to eight caliber revolver,
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and he had that large fixed blade hunting knife he'd
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picked up from a pawn shop just earlier that week.
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Speaker 4: The visit was just a cover story.
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Speaker 2: The real intention was confrontation and ultimately this systematic, horrific violence.
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We really need to break down the timeline now, the
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sequence of this awful ten hour spree, because upon calculated movements,
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they revealed this cold, methodical planning hidden underneath all that
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frenzied violence. And it started with the person who really
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represented the heart of that family unit, Evelyn.
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Speaker 1: Santas the ambush Okay, So Ponte waited for her, Evelyn's
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coming home from her shift right home Health Aid. She's
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either stepping into the elevator or waiting for it at
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her building twenty eight to twenty five Ollenville Avenue, and
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he confronts.
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Speaker 4: Her there exactly.
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Speaker 2: The attack starts at the gun, shoots her twice in
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the chest, but like we said, the gun was just
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the beginning. Then he uses the knife, slashes her throat,
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stabs her over and over again.
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Speaker 1: That brutal overkill, that term keeps coming up.
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Speaker 2: It's central to his state of mind. Forensic pathologists counted
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twenty five stab wounds on Evelyn and noted how tightly
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clustered the gun shot entry points were. That level of
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violence way beyond what's needed to kill someone. It's a
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classic indicator of a deep, intense personal connection, intense emotion
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directed at that specific victim. Later analysis, like Barbara Butcher's work,
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pointed out Evelyn was the emotional anchor a Ponte's rage
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seemed laser focused on destroying that anchor completely.
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Speaker 1: And the blood spatter that was key in the.
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Speaker 4: Elevator asolutely crucial.
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Speaker 2: They found high velocity spattered heiny droplets up on the
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elevator walls that told him the exact moment the knife
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cut Evelyn's carotid.
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Speaker 1: Artery, meaning her own heart pressure sprayed.
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Speaker 2: The blood precisely, adamized it. That detail helped lock down
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the time of death, and it confirmed just how intimate,
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how brutal that knife attack was, separating it forensically from
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the gunshots that came first.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so after Evelyn, Yeah, he moves on like a ghost,
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you said.
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Speaker 2: Like a ghost, trials a short distance, still inside the
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Parkside complex, over to Maria Santos's apartment.
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Speaker 4: He likely knocks on her door, maybe.
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Speaker 2: It makes up some quick excuse, needs directions, who knows,
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then overpowers her right there in the hallway. Maria fought
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back desperately, the scenes showed that, but he snabbed her
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repeatedly until she died.
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Speaker 1: And that's where the neighbors heard screams but didn't call tragically.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they heard cries, but dismissed it. Thought it was
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just a domestic dispute, arguing something common in dense apartment living.
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A mischance, a terrible mischance to stop him.
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Speaker 1: So then the double homicide later around.
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Speaker 2: Midnight, And around midnight, Yeah, he goes to Jose Senior's
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building inside Jose Senior and his business partner, Luis Aguilar.
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They're just working, going over plans bids for a painting job,
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normal evening. Aguilar answers the door and is shot instantly,
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point blank, collapses right there. He seems to have been
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essentially collateral damage in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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But Jose soor rushes to help his friend, and that's
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when he confronts Aponte and the knife. The analysis of
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Jose Senior's death, it's grim but important. A Ponte stabbed
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him viciously in the neck. The blade went in so deep,
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lodged there severed his carotid artery. The autopsy reports detailed
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arterial spray covering a big part of the entry hall.
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It speaks to the intensity of the struggle and just
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how catastrophic that final neck wound was.
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Speaker 1: And then the final act. Yeah, the one that's maybe
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the most chilling, the one Uponde supposedly.
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Speaker 2: Regretted Jose Santos Junior, the fourteen year old boy. He
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must have been woken up by all the noise he
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confronts upon in the hallway, maybe still half asleep, and
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a pond doesn't hesitate a single shot to the head
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ends the boy's life instantly. An execution ensures the destruction
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of the Santos family line.
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Speaker 4: It feels like so.
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Speaker 1: Different from the others, no fight, just cold exactly.
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Speaker 2: It stands in stark contrast to the frenzied attacks on
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the adults. It shows Uponte's capacity for cold, detached killing.
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After that initial explosive rage might ampete. It's deeply disturbed.
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Speaker 1: And for all that. Yeah, it's horrific, itinerary complete. Late
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he flees. But you said it was sloppy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, surprisingly sloppy for someone who seemed so methodical in
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the killings. He tosses the point three to eight Revolver
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in a dumpster nearby, tries to wipe the knife clean
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on his jacket. Then he just retreats back to his
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motel room in Yonkers, maybe thinking he actually got away
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with it. The immediate response from the NYPD the forty
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eighth Precinct was absolutely crucial, and it's been rightly called,
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you know, a masterclass in urban forensics amid crisis. They
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realize instantly this wasn't just one homicide.
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Speaker 4: This was massive.
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Speaker 2: It needed huge coordination. Fifty detectives were mobilized right away.
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First step mass canvassing. They hit two hundred apartments, gathered
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something like one hundred and fifty witness statements within.
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Speaker 4: Just the first few hours.
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Speaker 2: The challenge was immense, connect three distinct bloody crime scenes
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back to one person.
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Speaker 1: And the forensics started bridging those gaps pretty quickly. Thanks
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it is sloppiness that discarded evidence, the scattered clues. It
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let investigators tighten the net fast. Remember Evelyn in the elevator.
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Detectives lifted clear fingerprints off the buttons, prints that didn't
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belong to victims, didn't belong to building staff bingo.
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Speaker 2: Then you had the physical links between scenes. That bloody
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shoe print found at one apartment a perfect match to
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a Ponte's sized ten nikes, and ballistics gave them the
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definitive link. The zero point three eight caliber slugs they
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pulled from Evelyn, Jose Senior Agrilar, plus a shell casing
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found near Marie's body all fired from the same gun,
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the one a Ponte bought illegally that confirmed lone killer.
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Speaker 1: Wow, So prince shoes bullets all pointing one way.
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Speaker 2: And they also managed to use early DNA methods on
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the murder knife. DNA tech was still evolving back in
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two thousand, but they got enough to confirm a Ponte's
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fingerprints were on that handle, direct physical link to multiple murders.
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They have this powerful combination classic detective work like shoeprint tracing,
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modern ballistics, and that nascent DNA tech building an overwhelming
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chain of evidence against one guy, and.
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Speaker 1: The human element helped to write witnesses hugely important.
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Speaker 2: That initial kind of vague description from the kids who
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found Evelyn, a man with a red jacket running away,
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that got blasted out immediately crime stoppers, local news, and
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it worked a crucial bodega clerk remembered seeing a Ponte
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shortly after the estimated time of the attacks, said he
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bought cigarettes, his hands were visibly shaking, and he specifically remembered.
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Speaker 1: The red jacket that must have been the key tip.
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Speaker 2: It directed the whole search northward towards Yonkers much faster
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than they might have gotten there otherwise.
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Speaker 1: And that coordination it paid off quickly, dramatically fast.
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Speaker 2: By seven thirty am Saturday morning, less than twelve hours
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after Evelyn's body was found in MYPD swat. Acting on
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those tips and the forensic profile, they rated a Ponte's
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motel room.
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Speaker 1: In Yonkers, and they found.
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Speaker 2: The bloodied clothes stuffed in a trash bag evidence right there,
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and a Ponti. He didn't give up immediately. There was
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a standoff about two hours. He barricaded himself inside with
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a box cutter, but eventually he surrendered and his first words,
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his first words to the police were telling he was sobbing,
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apparently saying I didn't mean for the kid, focusing on
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whose a junior exactly? That specific focus on the boy's
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execution seemingly set apart in his mind from the rage
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field attacks on the adults. It's just a chilling final piece.
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Speaker 4: Of that whole psychological puzzle. What was going on in
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his head?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, while the capture was incredibly fast
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a success story in many ways, the investigation did expose
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some systemic weaknesses. Reviews later noted that A. Ponte, despite
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his juvenile record, despite his known volatility, he hadn't triggered
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any person of interest alerts beforehand. Plus precinct report confirmed
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they were understaffed back then, a result of city budget
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cuts in the late nineties, and that might have contributed
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to delayed patrol responses, maybe even delayed the initial discovery.
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It's a reminder that even as the community was recovering,
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the systems meant to protect it were still stretched thin.
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Speaker 1: So it all comes back to that agonizing question, the
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one that haunted the Bronx, the one that dominated the trial.
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Why how does a five thousand dollars debt escalate into
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five brutal, calculated murders. The prosecution's argument ultimately was that
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it wasn't just the debt. It was this corrosive, toxic
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mix of financial betrayal and this all consuming family envy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to really get the why, you have to dig
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into those psychological and cultural layers.
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Speaker 4: That five thousand dollars loan.
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Speaker 2: It was the trigger, sure, but it was symbolic. It
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represented a Ponti's deep sense of failure, and, crucially, in
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their shared Dominican culture, where a man's worth is often
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tied so closely to providing to maintaining family honor, it
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represented his masculation. Hosea senior's stable life is co op apartment,
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his little business. These weren't just successes to a pont
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They felt like constant personal rebukes to his own life,
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stuck on welfare in that motel, and.
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Speaker 1: The court records showed that rage escalating right on his
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phone calls.
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Speaker 2: Exactly taped phone calls brought in by the prosecution. They
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showed a Ponte repeatedly demanding Jose Senior just forgive the dead,
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but more than that, accusing him of hoarding the family wealth.
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He actually screamed, quote, you came here first and forgot us.
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That's the core of the familial envy right there.
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Speaker 1: He felt left behind, betrayed completely.
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Speaker 2: Psychological profilers later tagged Uponte as a classic displaced anger killer,
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someone who can't face their own failures, so they projected
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all onto successful relatives. They stopped seeing them as inspiration
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and start seeing them as betrayers, as obstacles. The assistant
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Ta summed it up perfectly during the trial. It's not
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about the money, It's about respect, or Ponte's perceived lack
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of it.
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Speaker 1: And that journal they found that backed it up, didn't
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it his own words, his.
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Speaker 2: Own words pages scrawled with these bitter, violent thoughts.
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Speaker 4: They eat while I starve blood for blood. It shows
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this wasn't just a sudden snap over an argument.
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Speaker 2: It was premeditated, a fully formed expression of murderous resentment.
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That had been building, festering for years. We have to
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touch on that cultural dimension again. Famalismo. Anthropologists involved in
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the case pointed out how deliberately a Ponte seemed to
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target the structure of the family. Fama Liismo demands, that
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deep loyalty, that unwavering support. A Ponte twisted it, used
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it as his justification in his mind, and by systematically
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going after the core, the women Evelyn and Maria, the nurtures,
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the social glue, and then the child, the future generation,
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he wasn't just killing individuals. He seemed bent on dismantling
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the entire support system, ensuring the deepest possible generational trauma
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for anyone left.
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Speaker 1: So the trial in two thousand and one must have
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been huge.
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Speaker 4: News, massive media event.
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Speaker 2: The defense that tried the diminished capacity route brought in
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a forensic psychologist, doctor Elenavasquez. She diagnosed a pond with
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borderline personality disorder severe depression, so he didn't plan at all.
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Their argument was essentially that, yeah, he didn't plan to
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kill all five. They argued his BPD symptoms, that impulsivity, instability,
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the intense inappropriate anger. It caused the rage to snowball
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after the first killing, he lost.
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Speaker 1: Control, but the prosecution pushed back.
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Speaker 4: Hard on that very successfully.
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Speaker 2: They used the detailed crime scene analysis, the timeline, the
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methodical movement. The jury ultimately agreed citing overwhelming evidence of premeditation.
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They looked at the sequence he armed himself beforehand traveled
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specifically there, targeted three different locations, used two different murder weapons,
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with calculation that careful itinerary they felt just couldn't be
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explained away as a spontaneous snowball. So conviction, five counts
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of first degree murder, five consecutive life sentences, no chance of.
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Speaker 1: Parol, and the impact on the community, parkside houses, the Bronx,
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it must have been.
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Speaker 4: Profound, absolutely profound.
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Speaker 2: Vigils at Saint Lucy's church drew hundreds people mourning this
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vibrant family gone just like that. Parkside houses, that symbol
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of immigrant hope and resilience suddenly became synonymous with vulnerability,
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with this unimaginable fear of betrayal from within.
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Speaker 1: And the media frenzy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, the sensational headlines Bronx bloodbath, they fueled those
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damaging false narratives about immigrant crime, even though statistically the
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Bronx homicide rate was actually down twenty percent that year.
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It shows how one horrific, isolated tragedy can warp public.
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Speaker 1: Perception, so the legacy indoors.
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Speaker 2: It really does. The case keeps getting revisited. It featured
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in that twenty twenty five Oxygen documentary The Death Investigator
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Barbara Butcher analyzed the overkills, specifically how it showed Uponte's
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rage made manifest and for the survivors the scars are
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obviously permanent, but there's resilience too. Evelyn's younger son, the
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boy who founder in the elevator, he found purpose, grew
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up to become a social worker. Wow Yeah, dedicated his
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life to helping at risk youth. His motto apparently is
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we honor them by living better incredibly powerful hashtag outro.
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Speaker 1: So we spent this deep dive really unpack in this
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incredibly complex, just tragic story, the confluence of debt, yes,
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but also mental fracture, betrayal, this unchecked fury. It defined
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the Bronx bloodbath. It really was a conversation beyond just
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a true crime story, doesn't It holds up a mirror
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to those deep fractures familial social that We're hidden right
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below the surface of a community striving so hard for
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that American dream.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the tragedy fundamentally it underscores a really hard truth
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about our society. I think about how deeply envy confessor
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right there in the margins of the success story the
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Santis family. They achieved stability, but that very success tragically
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became a magnet for a relative who felt he was sinking,
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who saw their achievement not as something to aspire to,
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but as a personal theft, a betrayal. There's a plaque
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now in parkside houses. It's a quiet memorial, but it's
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powerful reminds people not just of the victims, but of
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how fragile stability can be, even when it's built on
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hard work and hope.
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Speaker 1: So we want to leave you, you, our listeners, with
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maybe a provocative thought tom all over. That tension between
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aspiration and resentment, it's universal. It exists in every community,
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every economic level. If the pressure of economic struggle combined
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with that consuming sense of personal familiar betrayal could turn
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kinship into actual carnage like this, Well, what are the subtle,
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everyday forms of financial envy, familial resentment that maybe we
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overlook in our own circles, and how do we make
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sure those feelings, those resentments, never find such a destructive outlet.
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The Santis family story is a terrifying reminder of how
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much we rely on the kindness the loyalty of our kin,
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and how devastating it is when that trust is utterly broken.
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We really hope this Deep dieta has given you some
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clarity on this incredibly complex and heartbreaking case. Thanks for
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joining us.