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Episode 237: Uninvited (SG-1 10.05) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and thirty seven. We are talking starg at
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SG one Gators here my name is Mitch, going around the room, Brendan
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mate and Maddie. What's happening? Boys? So much knit? Hey?
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I mean not to date. The episode's Christmas Eve, Merry Christmas to you
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all to everyone's going to be you know what, just the thought that people
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are going to be, you know, doing their mad Christmas rush, Christmas
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Day rush, probably listening to us while they go from family to family.
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I mean that's the sort of that's the sort of joy that I like bringing
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to people. You know, they're probably listening to us right now looking at
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their pedophile uncle. She's like that, Sorry, we're forty seconds in where
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we beat the butts. You're right for thirty onto the next podcast. Yeah,
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or after you've seen you pedo uncle and you know you're on the drive
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home. Gun gee, he was weird. Let's put it on. Let's
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put it on some normalcy and listen to the three blokes from Getting a Gate.
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Actually on that yesterday, I was driving around with my boy and he's
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got he's got a phone and you like pulled up his podcast app. He's
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like, oh my god, can I listen to your podcast? I wouldn't,
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I said, yeah, And Sarah's my wife saying to him, when
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you're gonna start lett him listen to to Get in the Gate And I'm like,
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well, I'll be like, now, I guess, and she's like,
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really your podcast? I said, what she is? The language?
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I'm like, I cut all the language ches what about the innuendo? And
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I'm like, oh, that's there, Like that's so much worse than the
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missing words that I occasionally cut out. So I said, yeah, don't
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listen to that. And he said, what about getting to Geek? And
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I said to her, that's I don't cut out any swearing. Man.
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She said, that's not your father's. He's okay, no worries. But
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he did leave us a review which is yet to refresh and come up,
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so hopefully by next week it will have come up. But he did say
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something and to support the show I describe. Obviously, I thought he'd wait
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until, you know, after Christ and be like one star mother didn't buy
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me a new pati, mate, It's still not my fault. I do
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everything good, you know. That's that's that's the Big Fellow's problem. So
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mirror Christmas to you and at your weird uncle and just you know, you
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know he's the only uncle in the room, like just soul uncle. Can
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we just lay off the pedal stuff please? I mean we're all just as
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your uncle's here, I know, but your father's as well, fathers like
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petals as well. That's fine, that's true. Yeah, okay, well
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are you uncle? If you go into a room, then you can if
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you can't see a pedo uncle? There is it? Like that the weird
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of a train rule. You're the widow on the train. If you go
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to Christmas, you cut see uncle? You that's you, mate. Yeah,
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Reese, I'm sorry to tell you I'm not it. So I'm sorry.
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You've that's that's actually so exactly right. That's you for you, mate,
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You've got You've chalked up your tenure. Speaking of widow uncles at Christmas
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Uninvited is the episode we're talking about today, Season ten, episode number five
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of SG one. Pretty simple little synopsis here because I've had to devote over
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to IMDb. Guys, brace yourself. Don't need to take too many breaths
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for this one. I'm a serious creature targets members of starget command one by
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one. That is. It's written by Damian kind Ler Kindler, directed by
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William Wearing unentertaining Oh boy, uh yeah, this is It was a bit
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of a I don't even know if it was a struggle. It was just
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like, oh, this is okay, what else is on? Keep going,
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hurry up, finish, like just move on. I just I get
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the feeling nothing's gonna happen, and at the end nothing happens, and like,
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okay, So that was just we can chalk that up down my bottom
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three probably at this stage of of our ranking at the end of the season,
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and just a bit of Yeah, I just feel like it was that
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forced character development. Again, we get with Mitchell and in general, who
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cares general laundry? Can't He's telling him to like chill out the whole time.
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Then he's like not that much. Yeah, and you're like, it's
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not funny. It's not even funny. It's like a team building episode.
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And then the one character that's left from the film that's been there from the
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start isn't in the episode. Yeah. Yeah, I can sum up my
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feelings on this episode in one grab commissional Lives. Yeah, that's that was
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that's a real piece of audio. That's that's not something that I made.
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Like the very first second, I thought that was something you made, and
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I remembered. I know that very much. I feel like I've forgotten so
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much. I feel like I forgot it as soon as I watched it.
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It was just it was funny. It was funny because I'm like, isn't
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that O'Neill's cabin And like I've seen this episode that's right Land General laundryes come
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in and just taken over O'Neill's cabin. Daniels like I'm in England looking up
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with an English bird not coming in. Yeah, talks like that Christmas party.
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I'm going to hunt something. Yeah, Card's busy working obviously in Vala
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No One. They probably didn't even invite Varla Well yeah, originally it kind
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of it gave me the vibe. It's like whoever they rent the cab,
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like whoever owns the cabin that they have to rent it from. It's I
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feel like it's like a oh oh, we still we paid for we paid
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for five and we've got contra left over there. We've still got one,
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We've still got one time share left. I guess, Yeah, I guess
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we should run an episode since it's since it's like, oh, Landry uses
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his cabin. That cabin is in Minnesota in the show in this like it's
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obviously in Canada in real life, but in the show it's nowhere near Colorado.
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Oh right, you have to travel into state to get there. And
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I don't know the geographery Minnesota where that is. Okay, I don't know
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if that's but that's like men of Men of Soda, that's YouTube, but
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it's like you have to travel into state to get to the Maltese just did
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what happens in the ads, rolled across road to me stay there, you
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rolled over to your gut on in Patience Patients Men of Sodium. I wish
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Lincoln was here for this one because it's like he's actually physically been to that
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cabin, like he shot like a campaign thing there and it was physical physically
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like inside of it. He was. He was with Archie from Riverdale.
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Oh that's right. Yeah, I don't know who that is, but it
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is on our Yeah, Jack's cabin is in Silver Creek, Minnesota, Silver
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Creek, and the best thing is the Silver Creek sheriff called Samantha Carter saying
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the roads out. Why did he do that? Yeah, I just got
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a call from the Sheriff's department in Great Falls, Pennsylvania, where they're from,
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the roads washed out. It's like, maybe because anyone explained that,
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maybe because she was in command. But like some dude from another state calls
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Samantha Carter to tell her that a road is washed out. Yeah, okay,
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this is just just to go back on that to piss off our American
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listeners that are like we we already know this, but literally just Colorado to
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where you saying I've done it. I've done it for I went from Iron
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Mountain to Silver Creek, Minnesota. You have to drive all the way through
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Nebraska to get there. It's a fifteen hour drive. It's nine hundred and
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forty five miles. Yeah, that's an easy weekend from from is it?
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That's a fifteen hour drive? Mitchell did a fifteen as if he wouldn't have
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taken all they got on a plane. No way you go somewhere and it
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was his car. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah, you're right, you'd
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be like tilk road triop. Yeah, like there's no way I'm rocking up
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to see Landry by myself, even if I thought I was late. It's
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like, no, we're going together. Look look at that on the map,
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Like that's it's not halfway across the state. It's a good chunk.
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Yeah, so ridiculous. I'm assuming the production is just forgotten. Well,
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no, they kind of forgot that it's in Silver Creek because you said the
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fucking Silver Creek, Sheriff Frank Carter. Yeah, right, so they know
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it's in Minnesota. They know they've said Minnesota, or just like in the
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past. Yeah, yeah, when Jack, when it's first introduced, when
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Jack's like inviting Carter to go, I think it's in when we were first
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induced as replicators in season three and Jack's like trying to get card because he
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puts on the accent. Yeah that's right, Yeah, go and fishing and
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all that kind of stuff. I was just wondering Silver Creek and then you
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know in world Silver Creek exists. You know a ship you know, load
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closer to to Shine Mountain or where that would be in Colorado, And it's
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the same like I've been watching on Paramount. Also, great people. They've
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got the Sydney spin off of n C. I s mate Todd and in
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the second episode Bastards. I mean it's you know, they're all pale in
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comparison to our the lovely people at Sea Patrol obviously bigger body of water,
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but in it they get in a cart patrol, they get in a car
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in Sydney Harbor to go and check out this thing that has just happened.
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Okay, we've got to get in the car and drive there. And then
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it pops up on the on the super the location, you know whatever creek
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in New South Wales, and I thought, I wonder where that is.
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I'll just put it into my maps. It's in central New South Wales and
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they've driven there from Sydney. Would have taken them eight or nine hours to
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drive there or something stupid. But I'm like, why even why give it
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that name? Why why put that there? Because I mean, if you're
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an American watching that, you're not they're going to be sad like me and
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actually punch it in. Could have gone to Bao Main exactly and go okay,
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it's it's an X amount of time. Why it's not that far but
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close enough that we can drive and the same paramatta that would be awful I
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guess that's true. I mean, I guess Americans see that kind of shit
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all the time, Like, yeah, they would the Friends Building, which
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is supposed to be like you know, the building and Central Perkose at the
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bottom of it, and it's called Central perkcose it's across from Central Park.
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That building is nowhere near Central Park. And like in endgame, when it's
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like I think they're supposed to be running through Central Park at the start or
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whatever, when when Tony like first encounters the Aliens and stuff like that,
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and then the whole whatver gets thrown like through the flat Iron Building, which
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again is nowhere near Yeah yeah, so I guess it's our turn into yeah
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City. We're like, yeah, every everywhere in New York exists within a
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viewpoint of Central Park and the flat Iron Building like that's just and and the
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Empire, like I know, the flat Iron and the Empire actually white.
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A man can swing from the flat Iron Building to the Chrysler Building, yeah
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yeah, and with one swing yeah so yeah, but I mean that's that's
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ridiculous though, I like that's their weekend away, like he no wonder he
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got there frustrated, and then it's like Oh, the boss is just here.
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Oh, by the way, this is a time before mobile phones,
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right, Well not really, it doesn't matter. No one's told you.
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I'm the only one here and likely to be for the next day or two.
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Flip holy ship. So I don't know if they're getting it confused with
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like Jack's house. Jack obviously has his house, like and that's one we're
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like remember when he was like when he was banging that Cia chick or whatever,
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and like Carter rocked up and he had like the sausages and stuff like
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that. It's like, well, that makes sense to be at Jack's house.
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That's because that's in Colorado. Like that's that's near Shying Mound. That's
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where he lives off base. Same way Sam lived in a house off base
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when you know she had that creepy aland guy stalking her and all that.
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Yeah, and Pete and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, like
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just I don't I don't get it. Like like I said, he just
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feels like they just the sheriff from from Silver Creek, just another creeper.
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Yeah, because Pete worked for it Ron, the sheriff from Silver Creek.
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The roads washed out, you're there, You're not going anywhere in Colorado.
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He worked for some other police department in a different state and Cargo, Yeah,
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something like that. So yeah, maybe the Silver Creek guy, he's
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from Silver Creek, but he just comveniely relocated to Colorado. And it made
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a point to mention old mate, didn't they the what's the guy that got
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brainwashed last episode? Barrett Barrett? Like it was just Barrett Barrett with a
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badge and a sheriff's hat. You know, it's like it's Ron, you
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know, it's like Barren, No, just get these creep on any way
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that a can and it's so weird. They just slightly confirmed in this episode.
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Oh yeah he was brainwashed from last week. It's like it was brainwasheds
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not his fault, but he feels really bad about it. It's not his
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fault. All the bars got away, Yeah it is. It just and
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it was one of those leave alone exactly, like these type of episodes where
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something you've never heard of is kind of invented and then they give you this
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sort of a wreckcon how important it is, and then it's kind of all
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done by the end of the episode. Anyway, it's like this, you
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know what the po The pitch for this episode was cloak bugs unseen too.
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Yeah, well that and it was like, here's a problem that we have
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had that we haven't never told the audience that we've had issues with the clothes.
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Haven't even told the audience that we're using We even got them, got
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do we okay? And bleeds radiation okay? So should we not use them
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or just use them in short periods where you need to escape or not be
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detected. No, no, no, we'll turn the radiation off. And
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it was also kind of a reuse of that was a season six episode where
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we found out from season two or three, the Footholder aliens with the holograms
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that could impersonate people. We'd kept those, but one was missing, and
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that's how they in seasons stuplicated Jack and you found that Jack wasn't actually the
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one who was tried to assassinate Kinsey. This is the same thing. It's
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like, oh, by the way, we've been using the soda and cloaks.
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One's missing. Yeah, you know, it's just like it's just a
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let me guess the trust yeap correct again. And then it wasn't until I
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watched the commentary, like I feel like it wasn't leaned into enough in the
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actual episode because you have those moments of like predator vision, where like the
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monster is what you know going in, you see its point of view,
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but then there's another point where you see a weird, grainy point of view
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of like when cam arrives at the cabin and he and General Laundry go inside,
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that's not predator vision, that's Trust vision of them with inside the Sodaine
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cloak. Yeah. I never picked that in the however old this episode is,
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I've never picked it up until I listened to the because it's the first
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aord to listen to the fucking commentary for this episode. Yeah, and it's
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like I feel like that was a way more important point to get across.
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It just wasn't gotten across because it's like we only saw the monster vision like
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once, so then and then I looked at him like, oh, yeah,
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that is Sodan vision. But it's like, but I think it was
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supposed to be a red herring as well, because you're like, hang on,
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this is happening off world and now these guys are getting attacked by Yeah,
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it was. It was weird. It was weird. I mean the
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whole episode is trash. Yeah, it was just a mishmash of just weird
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ship. Yeah I didn't. I didn't get it. I've got something you're
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probably gonna want to put on your soundboard, so I'll give you. I'll
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give you a clear edit point for this one. Okay, I totally get
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the Varla hate in this episode. Okay, only this one. That's the
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difference. She was I just I couldn't deal with her in this episode.
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Well yeah, I mean when I say, please explain, it's not because
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why are you here? Is half the episode? Yeah, because as someone
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who you know, I have moments that I do like her in every single
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episode, absolutely, but I come at it from a place of like,
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yeah, I just don't really give a shit. So like, it was
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very much the same in this episode for me, is what it would have
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been last week and what I'm sure it will be next week as well.
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So what what about it gets someone like you who's a big defender of it
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just heard the off worlds her just being incredibly annoying the whole time. There
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was there was one moment I enjoyed her, but it was still really really
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weird in the way. It was like edited, I see you haven't gotten
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ovi orphobia of sitting in General Landry's chair. What are you doing? I
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think it's about time a woman's Actually, doctor Elizabeth Weird sat there all the
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time when she ran the SGC. She did. Good for her. Yeah,
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indeed, good for doctor Weir because she's a legend. Sorry, but
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did you guys hear it's just the weirdest you know how Like the SGC just
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has just random like background noise and pops and bangs and hum and things like
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that. Did you hear in that the moment Varla sits in the chair,
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it's like someone hit like a bass drum, Like it was just the most
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dramatic thing. Ever, What are you doing? I think it's about time
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a woman's What is that like someone down the hall shutting a very large door.
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Oh my god, a woman's in charge? Everybody, pany what the
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actual point? Maddie also clean edit? I just like and yeah, like
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Carter pointed out, it's like doctor Weir ran the place already. What are
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we doing? Yeah? I think that goes a long way with how I
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feel about Vala is that she is she doesn't change regardless of her situation,
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her location, it's not like she is any more serious offworld when they're in,
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Hey, we're in a mission here, we're being hunted or we're at
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risk of whatever's going on. No, no, it's different if she acted
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like an idiot. If she is sitting in the SGC, she is completely
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comfortable, she got armed guards out that she's absolutely safe and no one really
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gives a shit about her. But when she goes off world, she's exactly
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the same and putting them in a laugh or death situation. And I'm just
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like, come on, Like, I can't stand a comic relief character having
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absolutely no depth whatsoever. It's just one single dimension. I've always said,
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like to me, she was brought in to bring in, like to replace
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that element of O'Neill. Yeah, Like obviously Mitchell, you know, he
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he was brought in as the new the new Jack, the new Lid,
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all that kind of stuff, but he didn't have the comedic timing and the
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the you know, the sense of humor that RDA brought into it. So
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I feel like that's one of the things that Varla brings is those little the
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snarky comments and then the little quick whips, you know, all that kind
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of stuff, but Jack knew when to turn that off and when it was
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serious, and he goes so much further on the opposite side. Yeah,
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and someone who's watching you go, oh, Jack's not making jokes. It
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is serious right now. It's not like she doesn't have the range to do
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that either, exactly. Yeah, like Claudia Black has has the chops and
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has the range to do that one thousand percent. But it's just like,
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yeah, when she's just do it, but it's too little, too late.
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Yeah, when she's you know, skipping off doing and he's just like
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really like people are dying. It's a serious like it does. It takes
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any any option of any sort of drama and action and stuff like just and
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Steaks just takes it out out of it completely. So yeah, I guess
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it be one of the reasons why STUF consciously I skip this episode all the
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time, even come the end, where like, I mean, she was
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the one right that gave them the like she helped them in the end to
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hunt with the other one or to turn around. It's like she she played
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a role. But even then in the most at risk moment for any of
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those characters, she was still there to provide some type of levity, and
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I'm like, no, no, no, just turn that off for fifteen
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seconds. Yeah, because all we've been told her that this whole episode is
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these things cannot be stopped. We can't see them, they cannot be stopped.
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They've been slaughtering people across the galaxy, a bunch of these different planets.
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We don't even know what they are. We don't even know who the
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blank we thought it was the Aria at one point where you have that little
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idea of what they are, Holy shit there on earth. Oh my god,
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this could be monumentally bad. And she's still sitting there just like hey,
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hey, hey hey, and it's like, god, just one scene,
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one scene. Switched that off, because then, like you said,
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we have to sit here and defend the idea that Claudia Black has the range.
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And you guys have seen her in another show. I haven't, but
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to be able to say where she plays the tilk, Yeah, that she
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can absolutely do the opposite of what she's doing. But for someone like me
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whose only experience with her outside of, you know, a very hidden role
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in a SOCA this year. Other than that, I'm only seeing her in
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Stargate. And then you start to look past the character and you start to
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look at that actress going, I don't like her. I don't like what
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her face represents in a sense like I don't like her character, but I
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only know her as that character. I have to remind myself her name is
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Claudia Black, because I only know her as Vala. Yeah, and that's
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not fair on her to be able to just limit her like that. Yeah.
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I thought her best moment was the zombiellan reference. Did you catch that?
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No? I don't think I did. Number two never approach a creature
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assuming that it's a gay can rule. You didn't like that? I love
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that. Now. I've still not seen the second one, but holy shit,
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that I love The first of the movies are great, which is Varlas
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all right, right, okay, sorry, okay, but it was the
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same rule. Number two double tap. Yeah, it was a double tap.
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When does some of then come out two thousand and nine? Oh so
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this predates it. I want to say, that's interesting. Yeah, which
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is weird. I just thought that was funny. Number two is great.
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Yeah. Yeah, No, they're both Yeah, they're both really really good.
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Yeah. I was so excited for it to come out and never say
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the same super Troopers like the first The first super Troopers hilarious, so dumb,
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it's great they were making a second one. I'm like, it'll probably
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be terrible. I can't wait to watch. Still never see and I never
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saw that. And I've never seen Reno nine one one either. I've never
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seen that. No. Sorry, sorry on one fan I found I found
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this bit interesting, just the weird the commentary on like military guys on their
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days off. Sorry, Craig, ignore right, that was a large calendar
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three hundred three three. They're hunting elk. It's one of the only drawbacks
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around here. Drove running around the woods with a gun never seemed to me
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like a good way to unwind, looking to kill some innocent creature just going
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about its day. I suppose your day job in balls running around the woods
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carrying a gun looking to kill some innocent creature just going about its day.
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Yeah, some liver dickhead rider writing that as if a general would say that
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an innocent creature trying to get along with its day were the innocent creature is
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getting a mulled by a wolf. Innocent creatures don't have crude oil either,
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That's why it doesn't worry about those. That's why I would believe that he
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would say that. He's like, oh, you can't. That's that's one
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of God's creations. You can't kill that. But let's go and kill some
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other people that have got some stuff. The idea of the the electric powered
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environmentally friendly tanks tanks, yeah, yeah, they want to have. Of
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course absolutely that zero guys that zero make it makes sense. I remember growing
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up and like you read into that. It's actually before before you know,
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we had a terrible to kill people. No, that's why it's funny,
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because killing machines, they need to be environmentally friendly. No, it gives
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them more range, like because like tanks aren't just like like so much of
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it now is digital stuff and cyber attacks and all that kind of stuff.
24:27
So they have ten times more that's not a true number, but ten times
24:32
more electronics and all that kind of shit on board them. They need like
24:36
a power storece like, well, if we can slap a couple of high
24:38
density solar panels on top of this tank and it can suddenly triples its range
24:45
in terms of just you know, how far it can go and what it
24:48
can do and all that kind of shit and imagine the range that they could
24:51
get for Fury too. But it's set in modern day warfare. Why don't
24:56
they just use new killer tanks? Why don't they just do that? God?
25:02
What was that? Major? No pain? Major pain? The other
25:06
one, the other one with the the guy from the Three Amigos with the
25:10
white hair god, the one he did Serge and Bilko with the have a
25:14
tank, O harve a tank and like it fires and the kickback just goes
25:19
flying into the stands because it's hovering over the ground. Yeah, so electric
25:26
electric is way better than a ho a tank. But I digress. I
25:30
don't think the solar panels would work there, want to make it hover,
25:37
but that is the future when you get to a hovering stage. Yeah,
25:40
what about that line which made the whole episode make sense. It's only planets
25:45
that we have been to where we have not wanted to be detected, That's
25:52
what she said. Sorry, I just had a seizure in my head.
25:56
That's what That's where the bugs are happening. It's only in planets that we've
26:00
been to. The Tari have been to using the cloaks basically, which makes
26:06
sense because that's why the bugs are appearing. In our Yeah. I honestly,
26:10
it's been so long since I watched this episode. When they mentioned that
26:12
it was going to be an all I think, I'm like, oh,
26:14
yeah, of course, yeah. But then going into last week's episode,
26:17
look at the title and going on insiders, Oh that's because they're inside the
26:18
cabin like that. That's how much I pay attention to this episode, and
26:23
so granted hels been since I watched it. The explanation to science behind it,
26:30
if you would enlighten me, it's basically the type of radiation that those
26:34
cloaks are giving off. It's like essentially it's a it's allows a gateway between
26:40
their phase their realm that allows the radiation makes the bugs stay away. So
26:45
yeah, about the bugs, right, yeah, so they the grunlets were
26:51
built in to have the radiation to keep those bugs away, but because they're
26:55
your far, the radiation didn't affect them. Humans are affected by that radiation.
27:00
So the s GC got in there and fiddled with them radiation to turn
27:03
that radiation down bit of it, and then that allowed the bugs to come
27:07
in and then phase into our coming from where they from their dimension. So
27:11
they exist on Earth, but in their own face said exist through every planet.
27:18
It's it's it's the sight unseen bugs again, It's you know, they
27:21
exist, we just can't see them and they can't affect our reality. But
27:25
if they're close enough to someone using cloak, when they decloak, it brings
27:29
them like in the same way like remember in Arthur's mantles, Sam and Cam,
27:33
we're out of phase and stuff. So yeah, they're they're in that.
27:37
And then if they're close enough to someone who comes out of the Sodaine
27:41
cloak, they come into our reality with them and that's when they can then
27:42
jump into a deer or whatever. Yeah okay, yeah, or meer cat
27:52
that and then an OSLT. It all comes back to, is that ant
27:57
I wish amazing fantastic. Hey, Sam was in charge of the SGC.
28:03
Yeah, a big deal about it. Did they I feel like they did.
28:10
I feel like the whole the whole scene with her being like, oh
28:11
I can't sit in general Andry I thought, okay because before that, because
28:17
she was sitting in his chair in the briefing room, Yeah, I thought
28:19
that was more of a big deal. Yeah, that was because we've had
28:22
we had a mail bag today or just before we get into that yeah,
28:26
I just thought it was interesting. Like, okay, so once Carter joined
28:30
them, who was in charge of the SGC like Walter hopefully? Yeah,
28:37
it was almost like she was left behind intentionally so that there was someone high
28:41
ranking there to look after ship. Yeah, but then she left and went
28:45
to Silver Creek. Anyway, wait next week. Well I have the answer.
28:56
I have a insta d M from Andrew College College Cottage. Mate.
29:03
You're right, I don't know what that means, just going van wild.
29:07
Yeah, good point. Hey, I've been listening for a few months.
29:10
This is Andrew speaking. I've been listening for a few months and finally caught
29:12
up loving the podcast and sad Now I've got to wait for new content.
29:17
This has been bothering me for a while. Hopefully you chaps can clear it
29:21
up. I was right, you're right In one of the recent episodes,
29:25
chaps, I get it. It hit chaps harder. Yeah, want me
29:29
do it lived In one of the recent episode, go back and read it
29:33
all in a British accent. Now, you're right, that's what I would
29:36
have done. Hey, lads, here, there we go. In one
29:40
of the recent episode, I'm not doing that in one of the In one
29:45
of the recent episodes, you discussed Carter's rank, with Maddie saying he thinks
29:48
her and Mitchell are full bird colonels. Now Pegas's project, we talked about
29:53
that. Yeah, as far as I can find, there's still lieutenant colonels
29:57
along with Shepherd in SG and can't find anything to say they're full kernels on
30:03
the old tinderwebs The Stargate wiki even goes on to say Reynolds is second in
30:08
command after laund Lander. Who is this, uh Reynolds? No, No,
30:14
the person who wrote it that you're reading Andrew, Andrew, you're right,
30:18
you're at college boy, No, you are, Actually, you're right.
30:21
I looked it up when that came into the mailbag, and yeah,
30:23
Mitchell and Carter are both lieutenant colonels and they don't get their promotion to full
30:29
bird colonels to like continuum. Oh wow, Yeah, which was news to
30:33
me. I just remember I remember an episode of Stargate where like two characters
30:41
have a conversation about congratulations you're a full bird colonel or something like that,
30:45
and I thought that had already happened at some point. So yeah, all
30:48
I know is in my mind I know that Sam and Cam are always equal
30:52
rank, but I just assumed, yeah, they were full bird colonels,
30:55
which means retroactively. In Pegasus Project, the guy in of the Odyssey is
31:00
a full bird colonel, Colonel Emerson, so he was in charge. He
31:03
does outrank those two. But I feel like my point still stands with Pegas
31:07
Project, where it felt like he was, at least the way I interpreted
31:11
it, it felt like he was deferring to Cam on mission specifics, and
31:15
Cam had to give the go ahead about around with the the nukes and all
31:21
that kind of stuff. Even though yeah, he's like a full rank above
31:25
or half rank whatever you want to call it, above them. So,
31:27
yeah, that was really interesting. Andrew goes on to say, but in
31:33
Uninvited, which is this episode, guys, Sam is said to be in
31:36
charge of the SGC until Reynolds gets back. Only when he does get back,
31:41
Sam's clearly in charge in the briefing room, even though Reynolds technically outranks
31:45
her. Yeah, it's a weird what do we think we think? You're
31:48
right? Yeah, it's a weird training command, isn't it. Yeah,
31:53
it's not clear, is it. No? Yeah, it's all over even
31:56
for us the fifth members of SG one. I'm not sure I haven't asked
32:00
you next last week or something when who's actually in charge? Yeah, no,
32:06
there was a there was a line in this episode when Mitchell was talking
32:09
to Landry and he said, I think I might have written it down here.
32:14
He said he mentioned that the clear chain of command in the team.
32:19
Does Cam have a problem with the situation because he goes, well, it
32:22
was up to you to choose to be SG want to bring Sam Carter back.
32:27
You didn't have to do that. I'm like, what the fuck is
32:30
this random? Just the worst dialogue of all time. There's a there's a
32:36
Cooper there's a phrase in my head, but I'm pretty sure it's actually Shepherd
32:39
that says it when they're talking about changing and he's like, oh, I've
32:43
got a civilian and two aliens on my team or something like that. Chain
32:46
of command went out the window. Whatever. But it's the same thing with
32:51
Cam. It's like he's got one person who's equal rank, a civilian and
32:53
an alien with no ranks. Yes, you know what is it? It's
32:57
like he's just yeah the symbol Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously he is.
33:02
He is the SG one leader. So he has it, and I
33:06
mean that that well, he was given the yeah, the leadership of that
33:08
team, and it was up to him to fill it, and he wanted
33:12
to fill it with the original SG one Yeah, which is I think that
33:15
chain of command is clear in terms of I mean Deck that could think Carter
33:17
ever steps on his toes or anything ever never, and you'd be stupid not
33:24
to. Like, if I was Cam going with the situation and I managed
33:28
to get Carter on my team, someone who's been in the in the trenches
33:32
for fucking eight years prior, It's like, yeah, you would take any
33:36
fucking advice she was willing to give you, like just the sheer amount of
33:39
like just knowledge and first hand experience she has. It's like, yeah,
33:45
on paper, you know Cam's in charge. Maybe he gets another twenty bucks
33:49
a week in his pay because he's you know, the equal rank, but
33:52
he's you know, SG one leader. But it's like, yeah, like
33:55
theoretically Cam could have had if he could have had a team of fall lieutenant
34:00
colonels, and he'd still be in charge of them all. Not to rugby
34:02
League at Maddie, but it annoyingly yet some teams and they have multiple captains,
34:09
and you'll have two captains. It's like, okay, fine, that's
34:12
weird. But then some teams really wake it up and there's a team captain
34:17
and then there's a club captain. And the team captain basically leads the team
34:22
when they're playing the game and they're on the field, he's the team captain.
34:25
He's talking to the referee and he's whatever needs to be done. The
34:30
club captain is the one who basically fronts up to the media a little bit
34:35
more and speaks at the press conferences and like is the more of the face
34:38
of the of the team outside of the game. So that's a nice way
34:45
of saying, well, you're a better natural leader, but you are there.
34:47
You are a fucked hard when it comes to dealing with the press,
34:52
public relations. How many public relations lessons we give you. You can't string
34:58
a sentence together, so may be absolute acousticals or what they what they could
35:02
is like that on the field, it's a game of four halves. Is
35:07
that Mitchell could be the leader on the missions, Like he's more than military
35:12
guy, Like Carter's seen her shit, but she's also a scientist. Mitchell.
35:16
Mitchell is not a scientist. He's there as the military guy and the
35:20
military guy only, but more in the planning stages. Maybe that's where Carter
35:23
either could have shared the role or taken mission control, planning it with laundry
35:30
or whatever. And but once they get their boots on the ground, Mitchell's
35:32
in charge or something like I just now, in a military I'm sure people
35:36
like that, like like Craig the listening to this going that would and I
35:39
agree, no, But when we're looking at like again, we're looking at
35:43
a sci fi television show where you've got one character that's been there for nine
35:46
and a half seasons at this point, and another guy that's been there for
35:51
one and a half, and he's the leader, but he's also the equal
35:54
rank with the other person, who, as you guys said, never steps
35:58
in his toes once and does everything that he tells her to do. So
36:00
I think I think my mum used to have a great saying when it would
36:02
come to like when she would like, you know, pay someone to wash
36:06
her car or pay someone to come and clean her house. And her favorite
36:08
phrase was why have a dog and bark too? So I feel like Sam
36:14
was very much it's like, well, I mean, I could lead a
36:17
team. But that sounds like a lot of paperwork and a lot of extra.
36:21
Like I was out, he asked me back in. I can come
36:24
back in get my paycheck. But I don't have to deal with you know,
36:29
write all the reports. I don't have to do this, and he
36:30
can deal with all that. He can be the monkey doing all that.
36:34
Yeah, and I can just clock in the amount, get the same amount.
36:38
Yeah, I can still. Like she's like, she's fighting that good
36:40
fight for pay a quality. She's like, you know what I'm doing,
36:43
I'm getting paid the same amount but doing less work. Well, no,
36:45
she's doing the work from home. She's like, she's like, look I'll
36:47
come back. Oh Jesus Christ. She's like, look I'll come back.
36:52
I'll come back on the team. But I'll work like four days a week,
36:55
and that woman and that fifth day a week, I'll leave it,
37:00
leave it two o'clock every day so I can go and pick the kids up
37:06
to leave you. Yeah, a couple of wide spreadses. Yeah, but
37:14
that way she can like she can like she can, you know, do
37:15
field stuff like Monday through Thursday, but Fridays is like a lab day and
37:21
she gets to work on some some some tech ship and gets to work on
37:24
her on her tech and stuff. So yeah, I think I think that's
37:28
very clever for all. But because at the end of the day, like
37:30
she gets she gets all the perks with another responsibility really because she's like,
37:35
Wow, I'm like, you're talking to number two. Number one's over there.
37:37
Yeah, if you've got an issue, go talk to number one,
37:43
you know what I mean. I think that's brilliant. She played the longest
37:47
she's she's playing chess, well, Mitchell's playing check its, you know what
37:51
I mean. Because she can chigging get like on that. On that Friday
37:53
Flex day, she's probably off banging O'Neill, you know what I mean.
37:57
So and he's he's like, call me su one leader and she's like,
38:00
yes, sir. But Richard and Anderson executive producing the show lead start of
38:04
the show for syndication years. And then once that takes over, and he's
38:07
like absolutely maximized the dollars he's going to get in replace it's gonna I'll show
38:13
up four episodes a year. That's the right, guys. He's in what
38:15
is it off? World Security, Homeland Security, World Security over in d
38:22
C. And then he's got his d N her C. So it all
38:25
works. It's all work. It all works. The whole set it was.
38:30
It was like it was made for that. What's the scene? Think
38:36
about it, Cranbridge. I know what it is. But what's the word?
38:38
What's the what's the euphemism word we're using here? Oh? I think
38:45
you got that? Sorry? Absolutely, yeah, I think you have me
38:49
on. No, I never I never associate. Yeah, no, you're
38:52
right. Yeah, my mother, my twelve year my twelve year ol brain
38:58
went to Kuchi. That was the end I could come up with the time.
39:00
That's pretty good. Yeah, this is actually my favorite part of the
39:06
entire episode. Credits the wrong place at the wrong time, got shot for
39:12
his trouble bound to have with all these Yah who's running around the woods is
39:15
gone? Am I not being allowed to question them? Because the Air Force
39:19
is taking over this investigation in the interest of national security? That's why now
39:27
just a grizzly baron. Since when does the Air Force go after a bear
39:31
in the name of national security? There's nothing for you to be concerned about.
39:36
Way things will be back to normal around here in no time a few
39:38
moments later, how like Southern Man. So they caught me off, guy,
39:51
because I'm I'm so bored even by this conversation in this episode, I
39:53
don't care. And I turned away for a second to get something out of
39:57
the cupboard, and he's just getting more. I'm started just beginning to smell.
40:01
Like go back to the start of the though, how fucking banjo playing
40:07
down South? Your cousin, did Mitchell sound at the start of that chicken
40:20
biscuit, fried catfish around? Guns like it? I like, I like
40:29
hunting monsters and my sister I broke up with her. She broke my heart.
40:37
Said, look, even though we're not together, that we can still
40:38
be cousins. Yeah, I'm moving back to my room. Yeah. Wow.
40:46
Both bridges into the two thousand and eight con This is his favorite episode,
40:52
he said, this is his best episode. It probably is, to
40:55
be honest, Well, I mean it's the first time he's had anything to
40:58
do. Yeah, I'm sure if they from raising his eyebrows, yeah,
41:01
and zipping up his jacket. But I mean, I guess if you if
41:05
you asked a good man, if you asked Hammond, what his favorite episode
41:08
was, probably that one where he was you know, he got blackmailed and
41:12
had quit and you know, his daughters were granddaughters were playing in the backyard.
41:15
Because it's like that was the only episode he had something to do other
41:17
than say, you know, he closed closed the iris and you know,
41:22
so yeah, this is the only time like Bow's really given much to do
41:25
except for I want to say, continuum. He's got some pretty good sort
41:29
of good man continuous. Oh, he's a bridge bridges the bridges. This
41:34
episode was a bridge too far. Yeah, second lowest rated episode of the
41:37
season on IMDb. What's the lowest obviously still coming. Yeah, family ties,
41:44
Varla's dad. I don't recall, like I think, I just remember
41:51
that concept that I thought it would be. I thought it'd be Memento Mauri,
41:54
the one where she it's another Varla episode got left in this entire series,
42:00
fifteen fifteen left in this entire series, and we're dedicating another at least
42:04
two two whole ones character development. You got to have it, yeah before
42:07
even if you canceled. This is my final note. No, actually,
42:13
this is a mid note during half This is boring. That was it?
42:19
Hey Carter said, Holy Hannah, did you you blink and you miss it?
42:22
Yeah? Did you see that thing? Holy Hannah? Shut up,
42:27
Carter, He's dead, Get over it. Yeah, Dad's dead. Yeah
42:30
twice. Something I thought something, something that did impress me in this episode,
42:36
though there's only when I watched the comp well sat through the commentary.
42:38
Is the scene where Laundry and Cam are on the porch and like he's like
42:45
on his laptop pretending to do work so he doesn't have to make yeh finished
42:47
it an hour ago? Yeah, yeah, that scene was shot at midnight.
42:52
That was what that was, in the dead of night on the porch
42:54
of that cabin. They just blasted so much light at it. It looked
43:00
like perfect daytime. It was because normally I find I've got a pretty good
43:04
eye for like you know, when they do that horrible thing where it's shot
43:07
at daytime and they put like the darkness filter over, you can still see
43:09
the shadow of the person walking and stuff like that. I never would have
43:13
spotted that in a million years. That it's such a look a laptop.
43:16
I'm like, what a brick Yeah, brick house. You could fit a
43:22
VHS in the side of that. It probably had a Legitimately, those are
43:28
the days, yeah, good times or before we go, Merry Christmas,
43:32
Christmas, you filthy animals, just because I just needed a chance to just
43:37
to defend Weir, just while I can. If you're a powerful air force
43:40
general, you could order us up a chopper. We don't use helicopters for
43:45
our own personal transportation, met right, sir. Besides, I already checked
43:50
it wasn't one available. It'll be fine. If we had done that,
43:54
you would have fucking roasted the ship out of her. Just I've already changed
44:00
and given it to her. There's sonny general cattle jumpers and you're like,
44:06
oh, hell, Lily dang dong, and you find me it one for
44:12
there's a lot jo get to the chopper. I had no problem with Laundry
44:23
doing a misogynistic piece of ship. He's a general, she's she's on a
44:29
general payroll. If Carter did it, I'd be happy. Interesting it is,
44:34
isn't it? Civilians A non military man. That's quite interesting and just
44:40
some housekeeping. Because I'm sure someone dear me about it, I don't mention
44:44
it. Uh. It's the first appearance slash mention of s G twenty five,
44:49
meaning we now have up to twenty five teams. Yeah, I remember
44:52
hearing a number of guys. Where does this stop? It seems like a
44:55
lot given that, you know, they were so many because they talk about
45:00
struggling for budget, Maybe just have a couple of less teams going out doing
45:02
shit. Yeah, that's literally one hundred soldier, like twenty five teams four
45:08
person a team. There's a hundred soldiers just in exploratory teams or you know,
45:15
science would need to wouldn't they. Oh, you need to kind of
45:20
go back and the old missions and check up on people, and I mean
45:23
have to American great people. Yeah, obviously, and you know, the
45:28
military has your freedom going. You need more. It's just weird that,
45:31
you know, so much of a thing from last season and this season is
45:36
the Ioways cutting their budget. They can't do this, they can't do that.
45:38
They've got they got woolzy. They're looking over their shoulder, and it's
45:42
like if there's literally just not even counting people working the freaking you know,
45:46
the mess Hall and Walter and everybody else. There's literally just one hundred people's
45:51
salaries. They've got to pay the jello guy. Yeah, you know alone.
45:55
I mean maybe because it's the America, they're like, well, obviously
45:58
we don't pay them once they retire. So so we can just we don't
46:01
worry about any back end payments. And there are legal immigrants half of them.
46:07
How much of that, I mean really how much getting paid for what?
46:08
For that work they're doing. You can look it up because it's like
46:12
their government employees. So that's all got to be public knowledge. Daniel would
46:15
be on good coin, yeah, yeah, because he'd be on a consultant
46:20
he'd be on a consultant fee. But it's like here in Australia, Yeah,
46:23
well it's freelancer. He's still invoice in the memory. Yeah, here
46:29
in Australia, you can look up like anyone, anyone who's got a government
46:30
job they're on like you know, they call it like a you know,
46:34
like an EP seven or an EP six and it's like it's a scale,
46:37
you know. Pay The military does the same thing. So it's like you
46:38
can look up and it's even a Wikipedia. You can look up and see
46:42
what a two star general in the US force and August eighteenth, two thousand
46:46
and six. Potentially, I don't know, I think it's all current at
46:49
the moment, but it's like you can look up and see that if if
46:52
you're a two star general, you equate to this government tier, which means
46:58
your pay is this amount. Yeah right, so yeah, you'd just be
47:00
able to work it out if you were that hard hard cornerity into it.
47:05
I'm absolutely not. I'm just thinking like where we are at the moment in
47:07
a radio station, we've got a shower out there that's you know, it's
47:12
there if you need it. And because I believe what's the what's the legality
47:15
of a workplace, like if if you work goes past midnight, Yeah,
47:20
you have to have the it's like a shower to help wake you up with
47:22
something like that, or it's like a morning thing or something like as part
47:25
of like a safety thing, like if you're in a work past midnight and
47:28
you have to it's something as dumb as that I remember hearing years ago.
47:30
Maybe it's completely There's also there's also turnaround as well. Yeah. I remember
47:35
when I was working here, because I was working two different departments, there
47:38
was it was like there was a minimum turnaround in terms of if I did
47:42
my day job and then came in here to do a night shift. Yeah,
47:45
there had to be a minimum of like eight or twelve hours between before
47:47
I could start. Yeah, shifty day and obviously I didn't always report I
47:52
was not doing that. Yeah, fucking poor. Yeah. I remember doing
47:55
casual job working at cinemas. It was ten hours. Yeah you're just like,
47:59
oh no, I finished fifteen minutes early last night. So I just
48:00
made the cut just because, especially in America too, like it's you're so
48:05
much more responsible for stuff. So it's like, say, for example,
48:08
you guys had a house you're living in America, and you had a house
48:10
party and a friend of yours got drunk and drove home drunk and got into
48:15
an accident. You can be held responsible for that. Yeahs you know things
48:20
like that, And same at a bar, if you're in a bar and
48:22
you know you've tired him to take the backstreets. It's a similar thing,
48:30
I believe in Australia where it's like if you get into an accident on your
48:34
way home from work in Queensland, yeah, you can actually go your your
48:38
workplace for it. Interesting. Yeah, Now, I was just thinking like
48:43
about three times. If you're a you know, so so level whatever colonel,
48:47
but you're working, you know, you're just like at a training facility
48:51
in New York State and you're getting paid X amount of whatever. That colonel
48:55
gets paid, Yet that same colonel is running SG twelve and it's like,
49:00
yeah, you're like you could in a training accident, you know, with
49:05
some live fire, or you could get eaten alive by an invisible creature from
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another dimension. You like, am I getting paid for this ship? Like
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a plan, Like, well, yeah, we we substitute that by compensating
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you with an extra six hundred and twenty bucks a month. It's like,
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is that really worth it? Like all the blue jelly you can eat?
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Well, that's true. Yeah, you do it for blue jellow. I
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do it for a car park. Yeah. Carter has like the American flag
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fighters, and she just signs and just gives those yeah, for all military
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people, just like they pay the illegal aliens. It's half the budget the
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show. It's just coming from her, just like yeah, it's just signing
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day. You're not required on set today. That's what she did. Imagin
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valors doing. What does she do? I know? Back up there,
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backup, Get into the Geek, get into Gate, get into get starting
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podcast, Get into it now before it's too late.