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Ep. 314: Rut Fresh Radio 11/06/19 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three
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Speaker 1: and fourteen and today the show. We're back for another
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Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio episode in which we're getting the latest
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Speaker 1: intel from across the country on the White Tail Rut,
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Speaker 1: how deer activities changing in the tactics that are working
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Speaker 1: right now? All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by on X. It is rut Fresh
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Speaker 1: Radio here for you this week in which we're giving
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Speaker 1: you our weekly update from myself and from Spencer new
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Speaker 1: Hearth and from a series of hunters all across the
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Speaker 1: count tree on what's happening in the woods. What's the
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Speaker 1: progress of the rut, Howard dear acting, what contactics are
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Speaker 1: working right now? That's we're gonna do. And it is November.
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Speaker 1: No more exciting time to be in the woods. There's
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Speaker 1: no more exciting time to listen to rout Fresh Radio
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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. Um, And we've got all
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Speaker 1: sorts of good stuff today, don't win, ma'am? Yeah? Um?
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Speaker 1: This is the time of year where you could just
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Speaker 1: about not listen to podcast. I hope that you do,
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Speaker 1: because I think you're still gonna get good info. But
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Speaker 1: kind of everything goes out the window when it is
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Speaker 1: these first you know, like fifteen days of November. The
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Speaker 1: weather doesn't really matter, the moon doesn't really matter. Um,
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that matters is that you're in the
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Speaker 1: woods and that it's early November, because the rut is
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Speaker 1: going to be happening. As as some might say the
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Speaker 1: rut is fresh, it's a good run. I haven't been
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Speaker 1: sleeping very much late least, so my my wit and
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Speaker 1: my humor is probably off off right now. That's okay.
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Speaker 1: I think we were due to fit that in somewhere.
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Speaker 1: It hadn't happened. But yeah, man, so we've got rut
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Speaker 1: reports from four different people today, but you've got a
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Speaker 1: rut report yourself, right. Yeah. I came back to South
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Speaker 1: Dakota for a week of hunting, and I actually tagged
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Speaker 1: out on my third day. The deer movement was great
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Speaker 1: while I was here. If you were to break like
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Speaker 1: the rut down into the phases as we like to do,
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Speaker 1: it's not always, you know, as cute and in these
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Speaker 1: boxes as we think. But if you wanted to do that, um,
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Speaker 1: I would say, right now we're in like the chasing phase,
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Speaker 1: which is a really exciting time to be in the
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Speaker 1: woods because different than seeking that the deer aren't out
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Speaker 1: just like looking for doughs. They are harassing the doughs,
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Speaker 1: and that can move them all over a property and
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Speaker 1: so and it can move them all over property like
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Speaker 1: at any time of day two, I think we might
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Speaker 1: still be a few days away from like those big
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Speaker 1: mature bucks showing themselves at midday and and harassing doves.
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Speaker 1: But right now there's a ton of one and a half,
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Speaker 1: two and a half, three year and a half year
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Speaker 1: old bucks that are out harassing these doves. And it's
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Speaker 1: a really fun time to be in the woods. And
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Speaker 1: that's what was going on when I was out there
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Speaker 1: on November four. It's only about twenty minutes into shooting light.
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Speaker 1: I was hunting some doll betting. The devis had showed
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Speaker 1: up and they got nervous because this buck was around,
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Speaker 1: and he chased them off, and after they were gone,
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Speaker 1: I grunted him in and shot him at twelve yards
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Speaker 1: and and that was my South Dakota archer season is this, Uh,
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Speaker 1: did you have any trail cameras running on these properties?
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Speaker 1: Are you going completely blind this year? Nothing? I was
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Speaker 1: going to completely blind, um, which is sort of new.
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Speaker 1: I usually am running at least a dozen trail cameras
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Speaker 1: and actively scouting these properties, but with the move to Montana,
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Speaker 1: I decided I was just going to do everything blind
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Speaker 1: this year. UM. And I really regretted it when I
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Speaker 1: got back. I'd love to have that intel. But it
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Speaker 1: was also exciting just being out there and seeing all
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Speaker 1: these dear sort of for the first time. Yeah, did
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Speaker 1: you see any other nice bucks? Um? I I saw
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Speaker 1: maybe one and one other buck that would have been
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Speaker 1: a mature buck that I would have shot. But for
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Speaker 1: the most part, the action that I was seeing was
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Speaker 1: those one and a half two and a half three
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Speaker 1: and a half year old deer really outter asking those doughs.
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Speaker 1: But I think if I was in a tree right
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Speaker 1: now for these next couple of days, you would start
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Speaker 1: to see some of those more mature deer showing up
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Speaker 1: and probably dear that even if you did run trail cameras,
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Speaker 1: you may be weren't even familiar with because they're making
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Speaker 1: these longer extended walk abouts looking for dose. Yeah, tause
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Speaker 1: the season. Um, okay, well that is awesome. Congrats on
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Speaker 1: the buck um beautiful, dear, dude, beautiful in South Dakota, Dear,
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Speaker 1: I feel like this prairie deer I'll have that somewhat
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Speaker 1: unique coloration. I don't know if you've ever noticed that,
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Speaker 1: because that's where you grew up, but they just had this.
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Speaker 1: They blend in really well with that grass out there.
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Speaker 1: It seems like they're just a little bit lighter. Um,
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Speaker 1: and I think that's a pretty deer. Yeah, it's It's
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Speaker 1: a funny area to hunt, and I will certainly be
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Speaker 1: coming back every year no matter where I live. So
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Speaker 1: I've been at it in Michigan too. I can give
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Speaker 1: you an update. Um. The rut really start to pick
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Speaker 1: up around here on Halloween night. Halloween night is when
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Speaker 1: I saw my first real running activity. Um. I went
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Speaker 1: out there and it was actually nasty conditions. It was
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Speaker 1: twenty wind rain and then eventually snow, and in my head,
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Speaker 1: I was like, should I take the night off and
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Speaker 1: get some family time in or get some work done
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Speaker 1: because it's just so gnarly out there. Everything's probably gonna
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Speaker 1: bedded down, but I just was like, man, it's Halloween night.
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Speaker 1: I haven't missed a Halloween sitting forever. You gotta just
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Speaker 1: be out there. You never know what could happen. So
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Speaker 1: I went out sat a box blind. Actually just figure
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Speaker 1: I'll go somewhere where it's not gonna be a horrible
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Speaker 1: impact if the wind is crazy, but at least I
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Speaker 1: can see something, and ended up seeing a ton of
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Speaker 1: deer bucks were all over the place, and I saw
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Speaker 1: my target buck for the first time hunting, I saw Tran.
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Speaker 1: So Tran was back in the bedding area and the
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Speaker 1: neighbors like see him. He started running around and then
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Speaker 1: he actually ran all the way right to the edge
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Speaker 1: of the property I can hunt, and then spun right
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Speaker 1: the last minute, probably at sixty yards, and then a
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Speaker 1: dough it popped out and he spun and chased her
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Speaker 1: up and then ran way off from the distance. But
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Speaker 1: it's cool to have that first encounter. That was exciting.
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Speaker 1: And then the next day was November one, so I've
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Speaker 1: starting my all day sits um sat that day and
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Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm hunting down wind of the dough
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Speaker 1: betting are just like you were, And I have a
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Speaker 1: couple of young bucks come cruising through, and then I
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Speaker 1: spot a big set of legs off in the distance,
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Speaker 1: pull up my by nose, and right away I can
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Speaker 1: tell that's a that's a good buck. And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden realized, oh, that's that's this buck I've
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Speaker 1: been calling RB my buddy was a good man. That
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Speaker 1: bucks risky business because we didn't know if he was
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Speaker 1: three or four, so I was referring to his r B.
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Speaker 1: That's him, give mcgruant. And then he just turns and
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Speaker 1: starts walking right at me, and then stops, rips up
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Speaker 1: a tree and then comes right in. Now, this buck,
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Speaker 1: I can't remember. Have we talked about this buck? You
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Speaker 1: and you and I yet? Okay, So this is a
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Speaker 1: deer I saw all summer when I was out glass
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Speaker 1: and being fields in the properties. Really nice, dear. Um,
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Speaker 1: I kind of assumed that he was three. He's maybe
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Speaker 1: one thirties type ten point buck, which is a really
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Speaker 1: good buck for around here. Um. You know, I've only
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Speaker 1: had a handful of bucks like that on this farm ever. Um,
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Speaker 1: last year with that buck frank At killed, he was
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Speaker 1: an anomaly. We never have deer like that usually, you know,
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Speaker 1: class three year olds or the best we've gotten the farm. Well,
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Speaker 1: this year I had a hundred thirty class three year
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Speaker 1: old nine pointer and then a hundred and thirty somethings
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Speaker 1: ten pointer. This deer that I was thinking was three
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Speaker 1: as well. But I started looking at trail camera pictures
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Speaker 1: of him throughout the fall and I'm like, dang, maybe
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Speaker 1: he's older. Looking at the body, I was like, gosh,
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Speaker 1: some of these pictures, he looks like he's got a
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Speaker 1: tank of a body. So I just kept on going
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Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. I've been, you know,
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Speaker 1: thinking about trans so much. This this four year old
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Speaker 1: eight pointer that I passed last year that I really
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Speaker 1: thought this year was gonna be all about trains. So
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Speaker 1: I've been so focused and trying to dial in what
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Speaker 1: he's doing and trying to get in there after him,
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Speaker 1: and so I kind of get hung up on that
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Speaker 1: single buck thing, as you know. Um. But then i
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Speaker 1: started looking at pictures of this dear RB and I'm thinking, man,
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Speaker 1: if he's four, you know, four year old buck in Michigan,
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Speaker 1: that's something you can't pass on. Um. So I just
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Speaker 1: kept on going back and forth, back and forth, back
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Speaker 1: and forth. In my head every time I go out
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Speaker 1: to the tree, I look at a picture of him
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Speaker 1: and be like, what would I do if he showed up?
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Speaker 1: And then I kind of left it at I would
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Speaker 1: be a game time decision. If he shows up and
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Speaker 1: he just looks like an absolute tank and you get
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Speaker 1: pumped up, let it out a rip um. If not, don't. Well,
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Speaker 1: November one, here he comes and he comes in on string,
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Speaker 1: comes right in and steps into my shooting lane. I
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Speaker 1: draw back. He's at twenty yards and I'm still I
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Speaker 1: still like, I don't know, and so I didn't shoot.
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Speaker 1: I just couldn't bring myself to shoot in that moment
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Speaker 1: um because if I shoot that buck, then I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna hunt tryin the rest of the year because I
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Speaker 1: had to save a tag for the back forty, So
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Speaker 1: it would have been the end of my hunting on
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Speaker 1: on this property that I like to spend a lot
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Speaker 1: of time on. And what was the date of that again,
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Speaker 1: the morning of November one, and he was just out
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Speaker 1: cruising and he came in right to that ground call
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Speaker 1: passed on him, and then as he walked away, I
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Speaker 1: got I got more time to look at him because
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Speaker 1: when he came in, he came in fast. He came
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Speaker 1: in through the brush. I knew it was him, but
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Speaker 1: I couldn't really look at him well. But as he
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Speaker 1: walked away, I could see him and I'm like, oh boy,
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Speaker 1: he looks really nice. I mean, he's a nice buck. Um,
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Speaker 1: one of the top you dear, probably as far as
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Speaker 1: antlers and body you know, that I've had on this
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Speaker 1: farm over the years. Um. But I passed on and
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Speaker 1: then at that point it's like, well, you're crazy, but
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Speaker 1: you sure as hell better get a shot train after
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Speaker 1: doing that. So one of the rest of the day
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Speaker 1: saw some more cruising, lots of like two year olds
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Speaker 1: up on their feet cruising around. UM year and a
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Speaker 1: half old as well, and I saw a decent three
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Speaker 1: year old that night. Again, I'll do the same thing
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Speaker 1: checking out doe betting ears. Um. The next morning, I
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Speaker 1: go back into the same general zone, but just bumped
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Speaker 1: one doe betting air over. There's kind of a series
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Speaker 1: of three doe betting areas on one side of this property. Uh,
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Speaker 1: one of them is on the neighbors, two of them
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Speaker 1: are on mine. And I can get kind of along
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Speaker 1: this line and then you'll get these bucks that go
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Speaker 1: from betting air to betting aar to betting air and
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Speaker 1: just follow the edge of it. And I'm on that edge.
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Speaker 1: Uh well, first light, I hear crashing around behind me,
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Speaker 1: and I turned around and I just see a profile
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Speaker 1: of a rack passing through the brush and I'm like bam,
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Speaker 1: like instantly could tell that was Tran And he was
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Speaker 1: right there. I don't know, thirty yards probably, but this
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Speaker 1: is before shooting light. This is as it's just light
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Speaker 1: enough that you can see stuff. But like I could,
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Speaker 1: I would never be able to get a shot. And
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Speaker 1: it was still too early. I saw him pass through.
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Speaker 1: He was in there, and you could just hear crunching
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Speaker 1: around and things snapping something, and maybe he's in there
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Speaker 1: with a dill the way it sounded like it was he.
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Speaker 1: He was in there for a long period time, but
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Speaker 1: he never popped out again. I couldn't see him, couldn't
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Speaker 1: coax him out, nothing. So then I wait, I wait,
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Speaker 1: I wait, I watch, And then a little two year
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Speaker 1: old eight pointer comes running out, And then I started
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Speaker 1: second guessing myself. Was this the buck that was into
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Speaker 1: the whole time? Did I somehow in my head just
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Speaker 1: get over excited and think it was Tran and instead
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Speaker 1: it was just this this two year old eight he
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Speaker 1: puts out and um, then a doe heads out and
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Speaker 1: there's no other buck behind her. So then that's what
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Speaker 1: I ended up thinking. Okay, that's that must be what happened. Um,
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Speaker 1: so I feel kind of like an idiot. I was
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Speaker 1: getting all fired up, and then the buck I thought
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Speaker 1: it was wasn't even in there. I'd also seen the
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Speaker 1: trespasser that morning, um, walking across one of my neighbors,
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Speaker 1: and so I was busy trying to get ahold of
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Speaker 1: the conservation officer and trying to get ahold of my neighbor.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm dealing with all that, and then I
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Speaker 1: turned around again and there's Tran. He's standing at like
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Speaker 1: sixty yards with a dough, so he had been in there, um,
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Speaker 1: but this is the other buck had passed through, so
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Speaker 1: trans out there sixty yards, he came out of the bedding.
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Speaker 1: Year he's with the dough, and long story short, he's
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Speaker 1: out of range, but he's on this dough and he
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Speaker 1: does these long circles around her, getting closer and then farther, closer,
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Speaker 1: and then farther, and then at one point he walked
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Speaker 1: way off like several hundred yards away, and I was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: it's done. The dough is way over there. And then
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Speaker 1: I looked to my right to see what's going on
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Speaker 1: if there's anything behind me, turned back and there's like
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Speaker 1: four or five doughs running right at me at like
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Speaker 1: twenty yards and trans right behind him. I'm like, holy crap,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I grabbed my bow. I'm thinking in
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Speaker 1: my head, is this real life? Um? He's tearing at me,
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Speaker 1: he's at sixties, at fifty five, he's at fifty. And
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Speaker 1: then he stops it, turns around, goes wack, walking back
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Speaker 1: towards the one solitary dell that he'd been with the
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Speaker 1: whole time. That was the story of November two. Tran
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Speaker 1: was was on that dough, UM, hot and heavy with her.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't get him to couldn't get him to give her up,
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Speaker 1: didn't get the shop, but it was exciting UM. And
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Speaker 1: then that was that was it. I tried to hunt
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Speaker 1: again that evening, hoping that she would cycle back through
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Speaker 1: her circle back through with him. I moved to stand
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Speaker 1: thirty yards closer to where they were at, hoping maybe
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Speaker 1: they'd follow that same entry point in the betting area,
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Speaker 1: but they did not, and the next day I had
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Speaker 1: to move to the back forty because we were starting
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Speaker 1: to film our rut hunts here in the back forty.
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Speaker 1: So I will try to be this along. I won't
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Speaker 1: give the full story because I'll probably do a big
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Speaker 1: recap of this um with Dan on a main episode
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Speaker 1: here soon. But the rut fresh report on the back
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Speaker 1: forty was that it was very very slow. I mean
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Speaker 1: we were seeing hardly anything, um hunting our best spots.
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Speaker 1: Finally going into the honey hole, which is this awesome
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Speaker 1: ridge transition slash bedding area that I thought would be
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Speaker 1: just bucks have to be passing through there. Um. Then
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Speaker 1: it moved to a pinch point along the edge of
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Speaker 1: the swamp. So good looking. But we're seeing three doughs
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Speaker 1: in a year and a half old in the morning,
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Speaker 1: two doys in a year and a half old in
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Speaker 1: the evening, a doll in a buck in the morning,
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Speaker 1: a dough and two year and a half hold in
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Speaker 1: the evening. I mean, just deathly slow days. Um, this
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Speaker 1: is getting pretty frustrating. But yesterday morning I heard a
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Speaker 1: buck bumping the doll around in the brush, but can
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Speaker 1: never see them. Kept on watching, kept on watching, kept
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Speaker 1: on watching. Then I turned to look over my back
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Speaker 1: and I see a big buck running across the field.
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Speaker 1: And it was this deer, that the one buck that
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Speaker 1: we've gotten the most pictures of that I saw once
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Speaker 1: because I bumped him. This buck I was kind of
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Speaker 1: referring to as the wide eight, the wide dates running
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Speaker 1: across the rage behind me. I bust out my grunt tube.
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Speaker 1: I fire off a large allowed grunt and he stops
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Speaker 1: on a dime, turns and looks, and then starts jogging
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Speaker 1: right at me. And long story short after going down
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Speaker 1: wind of me, came down wind, stopped, put his nose
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Speaker 1: in the air, sniff sniff, sniff, take a few steps
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Speaker 1: looking at me, sniff sniff sniff, keeps coming right in,
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Speaker 1: gets to twenty yards double along him, And that was
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Speaker 1: my rut on the back. Forty killed our first buck
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Speaker 1: off the back. Forty proved that a thorough sent control
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Speaker 1: process can pay off and had a hell of a day.
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Speaker 1: So it was nice to finally see some running action
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Speaker 1: out there, because up to that point it has been tough.
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Speaker 1: But I think that was a great reminder for me
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Speaker 1: and I had these every year. The rut can be
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Speaker 1: so hot and cold. Even though it might be a
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Speaker 1: day that's supposed to be great, if you're not in it,
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Speaker 1: it can be nothing. You won't see any ne dear
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Speaker 1: at all. You might see a few does. It could
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Speaker 1: just feel like the run has passed you by. But
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Speaker 1: then in a second, you know, in a moment, it
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Speaker 1: all change. So the rut for me is all about
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Speaker 1: trying to play that mental game, trying to stay positive
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Speaker 1: and focused, because when the moments come, they're quick and
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Speaker 1: you gotta be ready for it. Yeah, and I think
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Speaker 1: that there is a level of maturity that comes with
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Speaker 1: understanding that during the rout, because oftentimes your best rut
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Speaker 1: setups are going to be in some kind of tight
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Speaker 1: corridor where you don't have much for a line of vision.
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Speaker 1: And so you could go to a place like that
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Speaker 1: that's like the perfect funnel, but you can't see, you know,
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Speaker 1: beyond fifty yards, and so you could sit there all
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Speaker 1: day and not see any deer. But when you do,
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Speaker 1: it's those encounters that counts. And then there's a level
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Speaker 1: of maturity that comes with understanding that and accepting that,
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Speaker 1: you know, an observation stand might get you a sighting
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Speaker 1: of a dozen dear, but it doesn't really do you
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Speaker 1: any good if if they're not within bow range. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it definitely is hard to do that unless you have
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Speaker 1: experience that tells you, hey, it's gonna be okay. These long,
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Speaker 1: slow sets are worth it if you know you're in
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Speaker 1: the right places. Um. Like you said, that does take
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Speaker 1: some some experience and some maturity to to know that
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Speaker 1: and accept that. Um. So it was nice to see
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Speaker 1: that come to fruition for me here recently, and glad
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Speaker 1: did for you too. Yeah, we'll congrat something awesome deer. Um.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like we both agree that the rut
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Speaker 1: is here and maybe the best days are coming, like
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Speaker 1: this weekend or right around this weekend, if you need
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Speaker 1: any further motivation to to get out and hunt here
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Speaker 1: in these coming days. Last year, I did an article
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Speaker 1: for Meat Eater on the best day of the white
17:40
Speaker 1: tail runte and I reach out to ten people that
17:43
Speaker 1: I would consider to be white tail experts like Bill Winky,
17:46
Speaker 1: Tony Peterson, Mark jur and I asked them what their
17:48
Speaker 1: absolute favorite day of the rut is, and seventy percent
17:54
Speaker 1: of them agreed on a day between November seven and
17:57
Speaker 1: November ten. So this four day wind coming up here
18:00
Speaker 1: in November seven, November ten. Many hunters who have a
18:04
Speaker 1: ton of cloud agree is the best time to be
18:07
Speaker 1: in the woods. Can't beat it, man, this is the
18:10
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And uh I've got one more tag in
18:14
Speaker 1: Michigan and a big eight pointer with with his name
18:18
Speaker 1: on it. So hopefully we'll have some good news on
18:21
Speaker 1: that front soon too. Yeah. Well, besides from us this week,
18:23
Speaker 1: he was here from Mike Han Sucker and Missouri from
18:25
Speaker 1: Hartland Bowl Hunter, and then we go to New Jersey
18:27
Speaker 1: and talked to Pat Cutter from Red Hand Outdoor Company,
18:30
Speaker 1: and then in Texas we talked to Tyler Jones from
18:32
Speaker 1: the Element podcast and then we talked to Sam Sohold
18:35
Speaker 1: from public Land Bus in South Dakota. Is that the
18:39
Speaker 1: public Land van now what he still has? Both? It's not.
18:43
Speaker 1: The public Land Bus isn't gone, it's just now he
18:46
Speaker 1: is downsized and made his fleet a little more versatile. Nice.
18:53
Speaker 1: Versatility is key. That's the key thing to think about
18:55
Speaker 1: during the run as well. So well that said, I'm
18:58
Speaker 1: I'm ready to wrap this up a few are and
19:00
Speaker 1: get to those interviews. Alright, Happy Rutt, and we will
19:02
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Alright, and joining us on
19:06
Speaker 1: the line next is Mike han Sucker from Heart Lampbow
19:09
Speaker 1: Hunter in Missouri. Now, Mike in Missouri. What would you
19:12
Speaker 1: say the buck activities been lately? On a scale of
19:14
Speaker 1: one to ten, I would say probably a seven. Probably. Uh,
19:18
Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, we're seeing a lot of cruising,
19:21
Speaker 1: a lot of younger bucks cruising. Um, seeing some mature
19:24
Speaker 1: deer on their feet, um, but not quite running hard yet.
19:28
Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, they're they're seeking a lot,
19:31
Speaker 1: they're they're hitting scrapes and and uh, you know, moving around.
19:35
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's full born yet. What's your
19:38
Speaker 1: strategy for trail cameras this time of year? Oh? Man,
19:43
Speaker 1: you really should just throw them out. Throw the trail
19:45
Speaker 1: camera strategy out the window. I feel like it's like, oh,
19:48
Speaker 1: we get so hooked on, you know, trying to figure
19:50
Speaker 1: out what a deer is doing and trying to figure
19:52
Speaker 1: out what what area the deer is in, and um,
19:55
Speaker 1: you know, they definitely can't help we. We'll run some
19:57
Speaker 1: shellyo cameras and it is nice to know, u you know,
20:00
Speaker 1: when the buck screws in the scrape, when he especially
20:03
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks, you know, when he might be
20:05
Speaker 1: in between does and he might be looking. It's good
20:07
Speaker 1: to know then. Um, otherwise, man, they can really just
20:10
Speaker 1: seems like they just drive you nuts this time a
20:12
Speaker 1: year because you know, you check one and you're like, oh,
20:14
Speaker 1: I should have been here and should have been there,
20:16
Speaker 1: and when those deals this time of the year, you
20:17
Speaker 1: just gotta get in the woods and hunt your spots
20:19
Speaker 1: that the most productive and um, you know, you just
20:22
Speaker 1: gotta hunt hard and hopefully luck fall in your favor.
20:25
Speaker 1: You just mentioned scrapes. Are you still seeing some fresh
20:28
Speaker 1: signmaking in Missouri? Yeah? Oh yeah, they're hitting the scrapes
20:31
Speaker 1: really hard right now. It seems like, um, I've seen
20:33
Speaker 1: a lot of buckscrews hitting scrapes. Actually a buck that
20:36
Speaker 1: I was hunting this past week in Missouri, um was
20:40
Speaker 1: actually frequenting this scrape but two days in a row,
20:42
Speaker 1: middle of the day, like one thirty one day and
20:44
Speaker 1: two o'clock the next day before it goes before the
20:46
Speaker 1: time change. But basically you know, early early midday. So now,
20:52
Speaker 1: for most hunters, using a decoy is kind of hail mary,
20:55
Speaker 1: but it seems like you have a ton of success
20:58
Speaker 1: doing it, so much so that you just decoyed in
21:00
Speaker 1: two bucks today. Tell me about what your decoy strategies are. Yeah,
21:06
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved using a decoy this time of year, um,
21:09
Speaker 1: when the bucks are just on their feet just you know,
21:11
Speaker 1: cruise and cruise and cruising. Um. You know, the decoys
21:15
Speaker 1: are hit or miss. A lot of people don't have
21:16
Speaker 1: success with them because you know, I use a buck
21:19
Speaker 1: decoy exclusively. I don't really mess the dough decoy yet
21:22
Speaker 1: or at all. I really haven't much us all released
21:25
Speaker 1: so um, but those will get nervous with the buck
21:28
Speaker 1: decoy and they'll come in and they'll stop and blow
21:30
Speaker 1: and run off and they can mess up a hunt.
21:31
Speaker 1: And so you know, a lot most of the time,
21:34
Speaker 1: I'm not using them in super high beared into the
21:37
Speaker 1: areas um where you know you're hoping to see much
21:40
Speaker 1: of deer. A lot of times it's more of an
21:41
Speaker 1: observation sitting spot where I can kind of sit back
21:44
Speaker 1: look see movement maybe called the deer um. You know
21:49
Speaker 1: there are there is an exception. I mean like actually
21:51
Speaker 1: this morning, you know, I was hunting over a plot
21:53
Speaker 1: with one um and I would never usually hunting more
21:56
Speaker 1: you know, food plot in the morning. Um, or with
21:59
Speaker 1: a deco. But this time of year, the does are
22:02
Speaker 1: are being harassed so much in these fop plots, then
22:04
Speaker 1: they're not really spending much time in there. So the
22:06
Speaker 1: bucks are coming, they'll come pop up and check them,
22:08
Speaker 1: but the doughs aren't, you know, spending a ton of
22:10
Speaker 1: time in the food plots. So I just kind of
22:12
Speaker 1: trying to risk it there. Do you do anything with
22:15
Speaker 1: scents during the rout? You know, I don't, Actually, um,
22:19
Speaker 1: I probably should. I just have never been a big
22:21
Speaker 1: sin guy. Um, I just have never been you know,
22:26
Speaker 1: big on introducing any other any sent outside of you know,
22:30
Speaker 1: minimal minimal sense. So um, I probably should, though I
22:34
Speaker 1: can see it being effective with the decoy I have
22:35
Speaker 1: in the past actually saved you know, TARSI lands off
22:38
Speaker 1: bucks and I put them on the decoy when using it, um,
22:41
Speaker 1: because they always circled down when the decoy. That's the
22:44
Speaker 1: hard part is getting is positioning the decoy to where
22:47
Speaker 1: they can circle down when come in to the setup
22:49
Speaker 1: without getting down when the view and offer you a shot.
22:51
Speaker 1: And so um, I think, you know, having some sent
22:55
Speaker 1: could definitely definitely help. Like the encounter I had the
22:59
Speaker 1: night last night. Actually the buck circled down wint to
23:02
Speaker 1: the decoy, and he circled wide down whin so he
23:05
Speaker 1: kind of got to where he was on our you know,
23:07
Speaker 1: almost down on the bus. And if we maybe had
23:09
Speaker 1: that sin like he he wasn't like he didn't pick
23:12
Speaker 1: us up big time and since freak, but he just
23:14
Speaker 1: kind of like I have on the vill right, So
23:16
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for maybe we had a little
23:19
Speaker 1: bit of a bucks and on that deacoy may have
23:21
Speaker 1: you know, convinced them otherwise. But so hard to say.
23:24
Speaker 1: When you do make a shot using a decoy, how
23:28
Speaker 1: does that often play out? Are you making the shot
23:30
Speaker 1: as the buck approaches a decoy or is it right
23:34
Speaker 1: after he gets up to the decoy? How how does
23:35
Speaker 1: that usually go for you? It all depends. Um Ideally
23:39
Speaker 1: you shoot him before they get to the decoy, because
23:41
Speaker 1: most of the time they either get you know, two
23:45
Speaker 1: or three feet and just charge it and then they
23:48
Speaker 1: freak out because the deco goes flying and it's hard plastic,
23:51
Speaker 1: or sometimes they'll come up to it slowly if they're
23:53
Speaker 1: not really aggressive and confident, they'll come up to a
23:55
Speaker 1: slowly and they'll smell it and they'll stick their nose
23:57
Speaker 1: up to it, and I don't know if it's the
23:59
Speaker 1: fact it doesn't have any sent or if it's that
24:01
Speaker 1: it's like a hard plastic that they just they just
24:04
Speaker 1: know it's not right. And a lot of times they'll
24:06
Speaker 1: they'll bust out and you won't get a shot. And
24:08
Speaker 1: so I always try to get a shot prior, um,
24:11
Speaker 1: you know, because then getting too close. But it can
24:13
Speaker 1: be tough. I mean, the buck I killed a couple
24:16
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I I tried to stop, and
24:18
Speaker 1: they usually are so so into it that they don't
24:21
Speaker 1: really hear anything, and so getting in the stop can
24:24
Speaker 1: be really tough going forward. Then, in this next week
24:27
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is
24:29
Speaker 1: going to be on the scale of one to ten
24:30
Speaker 1: in Missouri? I would say it's gonna be a nine
24:34
Speaker 1: or ten. I gotta think, you know, these next few days, especially, um,
24:38
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna start really really running hard.
24:41
Speaker 1: We got some good weather coming. Actually the weather has
24:43
Speaker 1: been great for the past week, and uh really can't
24:47
Speaker 1: complain about the weather at all. So I think these
24:49
Speaker 1: next these next you know, three, four or five days
24:54
Speaker 1: could be pretty special. Alright, Mike, I hope the decoy
24:57
Speaker 1: success continues. Good luck and thanks for joining me. All right,
25:00
Speaker 1: thanks man, all right in joining us online. Next is
25:03
Speaker 1: Pat Cutter from Red Hand Outdoor Company in New Jersey. Now,
25:07
Speaker 1: Pat in New Jersey. What would you say the bucket
25:09
Speaker 1: activities been lately? On a scale of one to ten?
25:13
Speaker 1: He was up Spencer, Um, I'd say right now today, Uh,
25:17
Speaker 1: it's probably about a seven or eight. Um, I think
25:21
Speaker 1: it's really starting to pick up now. I had I
25:24
Speaker 1: had hunt it yesterday morning and uh, I passed up
25:27
Speaker 1: a good three year old yesterday. And also yesterday afternoon
25:32
Speaker 1: I had a buck dogging doll all behind me and
25:35
Speaker 1: the thick stuff. Um, I could never get a crack
25:38
Speaker 1: at that one. Um. But this morning again I went out.
25:41
Speaker 1: I went out this morning and had another buck chasing
25:44
Speaker 1: the doll all over the place, just just out of range. Um.
25:49
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's I think it's really turning
25:51
Speaker 1: on right now. Are you seeing any midday movement in
25:54
Speaker 1: and if not, how far away do you think we
25:56
Speaker 1: are from some of that midday action? Um. There. I
25:59
Speaker 1: did check some cameras midday to day and I have
26:02
Speaker 1: been seen some midday cruisers. Um. Nothing nothing over the
26:07
Speaker 1: age of really four and a half, some like two
26:09
Speaker 1: and three year old cruisers. But I think, you know,
26:12
Speaker 1: if you got the time now, I think now is
26:14
Speaker 1: the time to to to sit all day and just
26:16
Speaker 1: put all your cards in. Are you seeing any signmaking
26:19
Speaker 1: still in New Jersey? And how do you factor that
26:22
Speaker 1: into your decision making? Um? Not as much. I mean
26:26
Speaker 1: scrapes have have kind of trickled out a little bit. UM.
26:30
Speaker 1: I think now they're just they're just looking for the
26:33
Speaker 1: for the for the dose. UM. I would get you know,
26:36
Speaker 1: you know in those typical funnels, or or get you
26:39
Speaker 1: know downwind of known Gough betting areas and and just
26:43
Speaker 1: post up shop there and you know it's this time
26:46
Speaker 1: of year. It's all. It's all a lucky thing. Really,
26:49
Speaker 1: He's got to be at the right place at the
26:50
Speaker 1: right time and put your time in a lot of
26:53
Speaker 1: the country for this rut is dealing with standing crops?
26:56
Speaker 1: Is that something you're dealing with the New Jersey. I
26:59
Speaker 1: have seen standing crops. Um. I did lose the one
27:02
Speaker 1: lease that I'm on, um, so I'm not really hunting
27:05
Speaker 1: any egg properties right now, but I have seen it.
27:09
Speaker 1: I have seen crops still standing, so I'm sure it's
27:12
Speaker 1: somewhat of an issue for for some guys. But I'm all,
27:16
Speaker 1: I'm hunting all big woods right now, so obviously it's
27:18
Speaker 1: not for me. When you are hunting those big woods.
27:21
Speaker 1: What food sources are you focused on right now? I'm
27:24
Speaker 1: up by us in the mountains, up by us a
27:27
Speaker 1: lot of red oaks this year. Um, the whites really
27:30
Speaker 1: didn't produce this year, but but the ground is littered
27:32
Speaker 1: with red oaks. And you know, I got some of
27:34
Speaker 1: my cameras on video video mode and you could just
27:37
Speaker 1: see them just munching, you know, the cruise by the camera,
27:40
Speaker 1: they hit a scrape and they'll grab a couple of
27:42
Speaker 1: acorns and just keep moving. So they're all over the
27:45
Speaker 1: place this year. When you're hunting the big woods in
27:47
Speaker 1: New Jersey on public land, I assume that you're forced
27:50
Speaker 1: to do some scouting as you go. What's your strategy
27:53
Speaker 1: for scouting this time year when you plan on hunting
27:55
Speaker 1: right away. I'm trying to find something that's going to
27:59
Speaker 1: change the deer, whether you know, I got some spots
28:02
Speaker 1: um where there's some there's some swamps, swamps up on
28:06
Speaker 1: top of a ridge, and I'm trying to, you know,
28:09
Speaker 1: find spots that will pinch the deer through a spot
28:12
Speaker 1: you know within you know, anywhere from thirty to fifty
28:16
Speaker 1: yards where I can get a shot at him. Um,
28:18
Speaker 1: something like that. Um. You know, this morning I hunted
28:21
Speaker 1: on top of a big mountain world ridge and um,
28:25
Speaker 1: right right at the point, like the the thick laurels
28:29
Speaker 1: kind of open up a little bit, so they so
28:30
Speaker 1: they run that edge. UM. So that's something pretty much
28:34
Speaker 1: for what I'm looking for. Um. But you know, it
28:37
Speaker 1: all depends. Like this morning, I set up on that
28:40
Speaker 1: edge and the deer were in the thick stuff and
28:42
Speaker 1: they ended up cutting down to the bottom and I
28:44
Speaker 1: never I never saw him again. But do you do
28:46
Speaker 1: any calling when you're hunting public land in New Jersey?
28:50
Speaker 1: I do? I mean these bucks they don't see too
28:54
Speaker 1: many humans or hunters. If you're getting back to certain spots, Um,
28:58
Speaker 1: they're they're not hearing much of that. I do. I
29:00
Speaker 1: did call it the buck yesterday, and I did call
29:03
Speaker 1: it the buck this morning, but they were they were
29:05
Speaker 1: so focused on the on that dough that it didn't
29:08
Speaker 1: make any difference and they just wanted to leave in her.
29:10
Speaker 1: So going forward, then in the next week or so,
29:13
Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to
29:14
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in New Jersey?
29:18
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stay pretty steady, um, around seven,
29:22
Speaker 1: eight to nine even. I mean, our our temperatures are right,
29:26
Speaker 1: we're coming into a good, a good moon phase. Um,
29:29
Speaker 1: as long as they're not getting locked down. UM, I
29:32
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be good the next the next week
29:34
Speaker 1: or so. Alr, pat, good luck the rest of the fall.
29:36
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thank you, Spencer, alright and joining
29:41
Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Tyler Jones from the
29:43
Speaker 1: Element podcast in Texas. Now, Tyler in Texas, what would
29:46
Speaker 1: you say the buck activities been lately on a scale
29:48
Speaker 1: of one to ten um, it's probably around the six
29:53
Speaker 1: man um, I would say, I mean there's been a
29:55
Speaker 1: good buck activity activity. I guess if you want to
29:58
Speaker 1: look at screens and um, we've seen a tiny young
30:02
Speaker 1: bucks side. I mean, I think we've got footage of
30:04
Speaker 1: bucks fiding on the seventh of October, which is early
30:08
Speaker 1: for us. I mean it's it's usually going to be
30:10
Speaker 1: in the nineties far as temperature goes that time of year.
30:13
Speaker 1: And um, so I mean we've had a good, very
30:17
Speaker 1: cool October after having the hattest September on record, and
30:21
Speaker 1: I think it really kicked um the bucks into kind
30:25
Speaker 1: of overdrive. But I don't think it's necessarily done anything
30:27
Speaker 1: for the dose. So as far as like stages of
30:30
Speaker 1: the room, we're still not quite there. I don't think. So.
30:33
Speaker 1: When you hear the report out of someplace like Indiana
30:36
Speaker 1: or Kansas, for example, how relatable is that for you
30:39
Speaker 1: guys in Texas, Uh, we don't typically pay a whole
30:44
Speaker 1: lot of attention to it. Um. I mean, and there's
30:46
Speaker 1: so many different ecoregions in Texas where you know, we've
30:50
Speaker 1: uh we've got a coastal region, We've got the Panhama region,
30:53
Speaker 1: you know, mountains, uh, piney woods, all these different regions,
30:57
Speaker 1: so there's different uh windows. I mean, we have year
31:00
Speaker 1: that rut in August and in the brush country South Texas,
31:03
Speaker 1: then they run in mid December. So um, it's it's definitely,
31:08
Speaker 1: you know, very specific to the region. But overall we
31:11
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to a lot of that. I mean,
31:13
Speaker 1: I gotta report from a buddy yesterday and he said
31:16
Speaker 1: he's all bucks chasing at mid Dundy in Ottawa and
31:21
Speaker 1: and essentially saying get up here, which I can't right now,
31:24
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, it's it doesn't mean a whole
31:28
Speaker 1: lot to us because ums in Texas and UM a
31:32
Speaker 1: different part of the state than I live in, and
31:35
Speaker 1: it's um, you know, it's it's still deer checking scrapes
31:39
Speaker 1: and kind of light cruise in real early in the morning.
31:41
Speaker 1: But there's nothing like morning at all. Are you seeing
31:44
Speaker 1: much for signmaking right now? Then? Yeah, there's uh, there's
31:47
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good, um, you know, number of scrapes. UM,
31:52
Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of road humor. I just um,
31:55
Speaker 1: I think in the last week or so, temps have
31:58
Speaker 1: been pretty moderate. I know at home they've been in
32:01
Speaker 1: the um load of mid seventies. UM where I'm at
32:06
Speaker 1: right now, we're still getting pushing into the mid sixties,
32:09
Speaker 1: even though it's kind of cold in the mornings and
32:11
Speaker 1: at night. UM, So you know, it's I just don't
32:15
Speaker 1: know that they're all swollen up and read to you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: push trees around two much I'm seeing if you're here
32:20
Speaker 1: in there, but mostly still scraps. And actually a guy
32:23
Speaker 1: on this hunt this morning shot a real nice eight
32:26
Speaker 1: point on a great um this morning. So it's definitely
32:29
Speaker 1: an effective thing for us. Here. If you're not seeing
32:32
Speaker 1: much for rutting activity, that I imagine a lot of
32:34
Speaker 1: your focus has been on food. What food sources should
32:37
Speaker 1: hunters be looking for right now? In Texas? You know
32:41
Speaker 1: oaks were back home where I'm at, oaks are predominant
32:44
Speaker 1: food source. UM had another buddy shoot public Landier in
32:49
Speaker 1: late October and he said there wasn't a thing in
32:52
Speaker 1: his stomach to step for anythings. And UM, so I mean, well,
32:56
Speaker 1: what we'll do is usually start out in mid October
33:00
Speaker 1: in October hunting shumart oaks back home, UM, which are
33:04
Speaker 1: a red oak with a big acron and UM, by
33:07
Speaker 1: this point those are starting to stay and we've had
33:10
Speaker 1: a lot of the swamp oaks, the willow oaks. UM.
33:14
Speaker 1: Those kind of oaks are have dropped these really bright
33:17
Speaker 1: orange acrons on on the inside their bright orange. So
33:20
Speaker 1: they've got a lot o pins and know, but they
33:22
Speaker 1: start to break down this month and especially in the December,
33:26
Speaker 1: those will become a pretty good food source. UM. Per
33:28
Speaker 1: Simmons also something that is UM. Depending on where you're
33:33
Speaker 1: at and how much wins you had, you've had, UM,
33:36
Speaker 1: they're probably about right right now. UM. They may be
33:39
Speaker 1: on the back end of that a little bit. UM.
33:42
Speaker 1: So those are kind of the natural food sources that
33:45
Speaker 1: uh we focus on this time of the year. In
33:47
Speaker 1: the state like Texas where you have limited public land
33:50
Speaker 1: and a lot of hunters. What is your strategy for
33:53
Speaker 1: hunting public land during pre rock Um, it's really just
33:58
Speaker 1: about UM, you know, the more I look at, I
34:02
Speaker 1: bounced around a lot, UM, and I think that it's
34:05
Speaker 1: more about we run some trail cameras, we can can
34:11
Speaker 1: usually see deer. Uh. If you see there in August,
34:15
Speaker 1: you usually you know, and even September early September, you
34:18
Speaker 1: usually you don't see those deer again in my experience, UM,
34:21
Speaker 1: throughout the season hardly at all. But from that like
34:24
Speaker 1: back half of September on indo October, if you can
34:27
Speaker 1: use some pretty recent trail camera information, UM, then this
34:32
Speaker 1: sitting there SoCal nights in a row on good winds
34:35
Speaker 1: underneath oak trease that d m AB feeding on is
34:38
Speaker 1: really a dead tactic. And it it doesn't really um,
34:42
Speaker 1: like you were saying, there's there's limited public land in Texas,
34:45
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter if you can see a
34:47
Speaker 1: place on the map that looks good and it's it's
34:50
Speaker 1: a mile and a half end, there's probably gonna be
34:51
Speaker 1: a stand there. So, um, it doesn't matter how far
34:54
Speaker 1: you're going in really it's really just about getting boots
34:57
Speaker 1: on the ground, um, even this time of year, and
35:00
Speaker 1: uh finding fresh time and then just finding it going forward.
35:04
Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you
35:06
Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be a skill
35:08
Speaker 1: of one to tend in Texas? Um? I think, um
35:13
Speaker 1: across a lot of a lot of maybe the western
35:16
Speaker 1: half of Texas, we're really gonna see the deer. When
35:19
Speaker 1: I say western half, probably the Interstate thirty five which
35:22
Speaker 1: goes through Dallas forth, Um Winster there, UM probably gonna
35:26
Speaker 1: see a lot of um, the white tails are gonna
35:30
Speaker 1: be really ramping up into the right um as we
35:33
Speaker 1: go into the next week or so. Um East, I
35:36
Speaker 1: think you know back where a hunt where I'm where
35:39
Speaker 1: we're from, in our homes are at our home there's
35:42
Speaker 1: it's gonna be probably more towards the middle of the
35:45
Speaker 1: month when we see uh things really start to you know,
35:48
Speaker 1: kind of get to that chaotic level a little bit.
35:51
Speaker 1: So still got you know, a couple of weeks before
35:53
Speaker 1: we get there. Um, But yeah, so Western Western have
35:56
Speaker 1: to say, I think it's gonna it's gonna be really good.
35:58
Speaker 1: I think we've got co Front coming in later this week,
36:02
Speaker 1: so that should really just uh you know the scales. Alright, Tyler,
36:07
Speaker 1: good luck to you and Casey from the Element podcast,
36:10
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, alright enjoying us online.
36:15
Speaker 1: Next is Sam Soholt from the public Land Bus in
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Speaker 1: South Dakota. Now, Sam in South Dakota, what would you
36:20
Speaker 1: say the buck activities man lately on a scale of
36:23
Speaker 1: one to ten? You know, this first part of November,
36:26
Speaker 1: I would say it's right somewhere between five and six. Um,
36:30
Speaker 1: it hasn't been there hasn't been like all out chasing. Um,
36:34
Speaker 1: there has been some falling ducks that are cruising after those,
36:37
Speaker 1: and uh a couple of more mature gear chasing. But
36:41
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not on the fire yet. Now.
36:44
Speaker 1: That seems low for this time of year. Is that
36:46
Speaker 1: historically the kind of number that you would give, or
36:49
Speaker 1: is there something this year that's making that buck move
36:51
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit worse for bow hunters, you know,
36:54
Speaker 1: typically this early in November. Uh, here it's it's kind
36:59
Speaker 1: of really just starting to kick off. And this year
37:01
Speaker 1: I think what changed kind of what's been keeping it
37:03
Speaker 1: lower is the fact that basically the entire eastern half
37:07
Speaker 1: of South Dakota still has standing crop because of all
37:09
Speaker 1: the water um back in this region. But yeah, I
37:12
Speaker 1: think a lot of the deer are if they are
37:14
Speaker 1: running hard, they possibly just doing in the middle of
37:17
Speaker 1: cornfield instead of going through transitions or thickets or uh
37:22
Speaker 1: timber stands. All that water that we've had in the
37:25
Speaker 1: great planes. Has that change anything else for you besides
37:28
Speaker 1: the delayed harvests? You know, for me personally, it definitely
37:32
Speaker 1: changed some access points, some places that had to work
37:36
Speaker 1: around to get into still, and I think it has
37:39
Speaker 1: changed deer movement. Um One area that has historically seen
37:43
Speaker 1: a few deer and the majority of the deer would
37:46
Speaker 1: bed in a cattail slew nearby, it is absolutely full
37:50
Speaker 1: of deer this year, simply because they are displaced by
37:53
Speaker 1: the water. UM So, I think it's definitely changed how
37:56
Speaker 1: deer are using the terrain. But it's also an opportunity
37:59
Speaker 1: to find uh some funnels and pinch point because of
38:02
Speaker 1: that water this year that probably didn't exist for the
38:05
Speaker 1: past decade. If you're not seeing any of that midday
38:08
Speaker 1: movement quite yet. When do you expect for South Dakota's
38:11
Speaker 1: to see that kind of action. I would say in
38:14
Speaker 1: the next day or two. It should kick off. Stuff
38:16
Speaker 1: should be moving all day. We've got a lot of
38:18
Speaker 1: We've got a huge cold weather system coming over the
38:21
Speaker 1: next week, and I would imagine that the cold weather
38:24
Speaker 1: and just it being that time of the month will
38:27
Speaker 1: keep deer on their feet all day. Now, you just
38:29
Speaker 1: killed a great buck there in eastern South Dakota on
38:32
Speaker 1: public land. Tell us about that set up, and tell
38:34
Speaker 1: us about what you're looking for when you pick some
38:36
Speaker 1: of these places to bowhunts on public land. So I
38:40
Speaker 1: typically try to get to places that a lot of
38:43
Speaker 1: other people might not go or might overlook. Um. So
38:46
Speaker 1: the setup I had was honestly just a real small
38:49
Speaker 1: island of trees kind of in the middle of nowhere,
38:52
Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's spot I have seen deer in
38:55
Speaker 1: the past moving through, but it's never had a chance
38:58
Speaker 1: to get in there and hunt. Um. But it was
39:01
Speaker 1: it's thick enough kind of on the perimeter that I
39:03
Speaker 1: knew it would be out of the wind. I was
39:04
Speaker 1: hunting a windy day and happened to get in the
39:07
Speaker 1: right tree at the right time and had had a
39:09
Speaker 1: really good My buck was actually chasing um was pursuing
39:12
Speaker 1: a dough through the the through the little thicket, and
39:16
Speaker 1: she carried him right past me, so twenty five yards
39:20
Speaker 1: and he did not go very far after that. In
39:23
Speaker 1: the past, I know on public land you've killed some
39:25
Speaker 1: deer this time of year using decoys. How do you
39:28
Speaker 1: decide when you use a set up like that? So
39:32
Speaker 1: typically for me, like I'm a fairly aggressive hunter when
39:35
Speaker 1: it comes to this time of year, I figured, I
39:37
Speaker 1: pretty I'll hunt a different spot every hunt, and if
39:40
Speaker 1: I if I'm going to a spot that I know
39:42
Speaker 1: is highly visible, a lot of times I'll bring a
39:45
Speaker 1: decoy this time of year just to give me an
39:48
Speaker 1: extra advantage where if I do see a buck cruising
39:51
Speaker 1: at a distance, I can grown at him or rattle
39:54
Speaker 1: at him to get his attention and then when he
39:55
Speaker 1: looks over, he'll see the decoy and come check it out. Um.
40:00
Speaker 1: So I don't think any time in the month of
40:02
Speaker 1: November is a good time to use a decoy. If
40:04
Speaker 1: you're in a place that's highly visible going forward, then
40:07
Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think
40:08
Speaker 1: that bucket Kivy is going to be on a scale
40:10
Speaker 1: of one to ten in South Dakota. You know, I
40:13
Speaker 1: would say in the next two or three days that
40:16
Speaker 1: should ramp right up to an eight or nine, um
40:19
Speaker 1: and then be get kind of hold right there, if
40:21
Speaker 1: not bump all the way to ten over the next week.
40:25
Speaker 1: All right, Samuel, congrats on the awesome dear thanks for
40:27
Speaker 1: joining me. Yeah, thank you, And that concludes this week's
40:31
Speaker 1: episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Mike, pat Tyler
40:35
Speaker 1: and Sam for joining me, and thank you guys for listening.
40:38
Speaker 1: This is the absolute best time of the year to
40:41
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40:43
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