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It’s David vs Goliath… This Doctor is SUING the FDA — Dr. Mary Talley Bowden Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So I feel like we've been beating a dead horse on covering COVID and the vaccine and the side effects and the fight against the corruption surrounding that, but I think it's just it's an issue that's so important that we can't just, you know, kind of pass it over for the next big thing. And so joining us today is a a fearless doctor. This is doctor Mary Bowden, someone who's been fighting and risking a lot actually to fight against this and to help patients, you know, get ivermectin.
• 2:06
  But she's also in her own practice, she's been treating a lot of vaccine injured patients, which is very interesting hearing what she's doing, what's working, what's not working. So this will be an interesting conversation, I think, that's going to really help just continue this conversation about what's happening with the vaccine. So folks, enjoy this interview with Doctor. Mary Bowden. Doctor.
• 2:31
  Bowden, thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me.
• 2:36
  Seth Holehouse: You're very welcome. So I actually first came across you, think, I forget actually the first exact time, but one of the things that really stuck out to me was that you had some issues with the a particular hospital. There was a patient that I think had been in a coma for thirty plus days, the wife had come to you, they wanted to try ivermectin, it was shot down, and you've you kind of really fought for that. So I'll probably not tell a story nearly as good as you. So can you just walk us through what happened with that in particular?
• 3:10
  Because that's a, it's a pretty shocking case. I think it's important to bring attention to.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Yes. So his name was Jason Jones and father of six sheriff's deputy. He lived in Dallas, and I'm in Houston. His wife was familiar with ivermectin. Ivermectin.
• 3:30
  She was familiar with FLCCC. And when the hospital refused to allow her husband to get ivermectin, she sought me out. He had been in the hospital for over a month. The hospital was talking hospice, he'd been on a ventilator for over a month, the prognosis was very poor. And she simply wanted to try everything she could.
• 3:55
  She, before seeking me out, she hired a lawyer, she hired Ralph Lorigo, and he was also working with Beth Parlato, and they had tried many cases, similar cases. I think in all total, they tried almost 200 similar cases. And in the cases that they won, the patients lived. In the cases that they lost, the patients died. So they were truly seeing remarkable results.
• 4:24
  So they hired, you know, the best of the best. And then they brought me on to be the expert witness to be the advocate, to be the doctor willing to write the prescription. We had a hearing and I was the expert witness and we won and the judge said that the hospital had to grant me temporary privileges and that I could write the order for the ivermectin. Now the media is making it sound like I just marched in the hospital and wrote orders on this patient's chart without ever seeing him, and that is completely false. I his history through his legal proxy, his power of attorney, his wife.
• 5:04
  He was in a coma. He couldn't have given me a history. And telehealth was very much allowed at that time. During the pandemic, you know, we all relied on it heavily, right? Because the doctors wouldn't see patients in person anyway.
• 5:18
  So now they're turning it around and saying, Oh, she never examined the patient when most of the primary care doctors out there wouldn't touch a COVID patient. So anyway, we testified, and we won. And then I went through the whole credentialing process, which is a it's it's arduous, you have to submit so much paperwork, you have to get recommendations. And I did it as quickly as I could. I think it took me a little over twenty four hours.
• 5:48
  And then they said, Oh, no, we're not we're not going to actually allow you to get these privileges, even though I mean, I had no malpractice cases, I had no medical board complaints. At that time, I still had reputation. So there was no reason for them to block the privileges other than they're just trying to add a little stumbling block to him getting ivermectin. Then they appealed the case. But at the time, we didn't know that we knew we were under pressure that we could still get the give the ivermectin.
• 6:22
  They made me submit additional paperwork to grant me the temporary privileges. And they wouldn't administer the medicine themselves. They wanted either myself or I could have a nurse act on my behalf and administer the ivermectin. So we found a nurse who was willing and a local nurse, she shows up at the hospital and you know, everything is the lawyer is saying, go, go, go, this is we're allowed to do this. This is a court order.
• 6:53
  And the police show up at the hospital. And there's apparently a scene. Well, the scene was from, you know, police being present in the waiting room of the ICU. And, you know, it was a holiday weekend, So the lawyer couldn't verify what was going on. But they had put an appeal in place and they in their side, they said there was a stay on the order.
• 7:20
  But our lawyers were not aware of that. But regardless, the nurse never got to give him the ivermectin. Then we had a hearing the next week, and the appeal was granted. And so he was never legally allowed to get ivermectin. And then they submitted a complaint to the medical board for my involvement in all this.
• 7:43
  So that's what I'm dealing with. And then, you know, he actually did make it out of the hospital, and his wife was sneaking ivermectin into him daily. She was applying to it topically. And a lot of people were like, Well, you know, he was gonna, he was so far gone, what's the point anyway? But there are actually a lot of studies.
• 8:03
  There are 45 studies, and they did a meta analysis, it's almost 60,000 patients. And these people that got ivermectin late, you know, when you thought, oh, there's no chance it would work, forty one percent of them improved, and the outcome for most of these studies was death. So the, you know, these people lived or died based on getting ivermectin even that late in the game. And, you know, I have treated 1000s of patients with ivermectin now, and it is so safe. I mean, I have much harder time with antibiotics in terms of side effects.
• 8:39
  I mean, I get calls from patients routinely about bad side effects with antibiotics. I can count on one hand the number of calls I've gotten about ivermectin and no one has gone to the emergency room. It's extremely safe. So for them not to allow him this opportunity, it's just cruel. And it's very sad.
• 9:03
  And I think it's very interesting the cases that Beth and Ralph tried. It's just so telling that the ones that were allowed to get it survived and the ones that were denied it did not survive.
• 9:16
  Seth Holehouse: And you've been a doctor for some time now. Mean, have you ever seen the medical system act in this way where they're even bringing police in? I mean, it'd be one thing, let's just say that you wanted to try some weird new medication that came off the streets of Mexico that was untested and maybe even illegal. That would make sense. But this is something that, you know, I have chickens, can go to the local Tractor Supply, I can buy ivermectin over the counter and give them to my livestock, right?
• 9:48
  I mean, it's just, it's, it's incredible.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Sadly, if ivermectin had been considered an experimental drug, he legally would have been allowed to have it because there is a right to try law in Texas at least where patients who are terminally ill are allowed to try something experimentally. And but ivermectin is not experimental. So there's that loophole. It's just purely political. It's unbelievable.
• 10:15
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• 10:32
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• 10:58
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• 11:34
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• 11:59
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• 12:44
  There's, you know, the even folks that have had their, you know, their their children, the hospital putting a DNR order without them even knowing it, you know, against their will, you know, putting a DNR that when they're already on a ventilator like this. So this just seeing very erratic behavior that almost always leads to death. You know, it's not like it's not like you're seeing the nurses and the doctors bending the rules because they're finding ways to save people in a pandemic. Right? It's actually the opposite.
• 13:17
  It seems like we're back in, you know, Joseph Mangala, where they're looking for different ways to make sure no one walks out of the hospital alive. And do you have any idea what could be behind that? Because it doesn't seem like it's normal behavior for people that have dedicated their lives to trying to help people stay alive?
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's multifactorial. I think part of it is the way that we're trained. It's very I've never been in the military, but I imagine that our training is similar, and that you follow protocols, you don't question authority, everything is very rigid. You don't draw, you don't go outside your lane, you don't draw outside the lines. And that's the way we are trained, right?
• 14:02
  And people that go into medicine are rule followers, typically, you know, we make straight A's, we don't rebel in school, we do everything the way we should do. So it's just, first of all, personality wise, doctors are right for this kind of situation. Another factor is this paternalistic view that doctors have over their patients. You know, we know better. Don't question us.
• 14:31
  We have all the training. You know, I do remember, you know, it is aggravating as a doctor, you come in and a patient brings in something from Google, and it's aggravating, because then you spend half your appointment trying to convince them. But you know, this is a different situation. This is people are dying. This is a new situation.
• 14:51
  This is not something where we have a long standing standard of care that we can rely on, plenty of robust studies that we can rely on. Things are changing. This is a novel situation. And it's actually, it's just a shame because I think, you know, it goes beyond just those two factors. I mean, it goes into the government, and the money.
• 15:16
  And, you know, we know all those things. But in terms of the individual doctor, I think so much of it is just the personalities of doctors. One other very important issue that luckily I was not subjected to is doctors are, most of them now are employees. They are not independent. They are their livelihood depends on a bigger entity.
• 15:42
  And you know, they get fired or they get in trouble if they go against the narrative. Yet for me, I had my own practice. I call myself a direct specialty care physician. So I'm a specialist. I don't take insurance, but I don't charge concierge prices.
• 16:02
  I just call it direct care. So, you see exactly what all the prices are, but I like to call myself third party free. Answer to an insurance company. I don't answer to the government. Hospital, I only answer to my patients.
• 16:18
  But most doctors can't say that anymore. They have somebody looking over their shoulder and telling them what they can and cannot do.
• 16:27
  Seth Holehouse: For some reason, it just brings to mind the stormtroopers, you know, from these, these soldiers dressed in their white uniforms that they just, they just have to follow orders. And that's what the system has become. And it's not just the doctors and medicine, it's teachers, it's a lot of attorneys, it's anything where you have these larger, you know, kind of more federal or kind of nationwide regulatory boards where you can lose your job to participate at that level if you don't follow their, their rules. And so, but I also know that, you know, you are suing the FDA, right? And so you seem like you're probably a straight A student, but you're also one that's questioning questioning the the authority of things.
• 17:15
  So could you walk us through what's happening with with the FDA? Because we know that they've played a significant role in pushing the vaccine and reinforcing these things, and hopefully there's some justice to that, but what are you doing there?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Well, they started the whole media frenzy over the horse and ivermectin's not for humans. And you may remember the famous tweet that they put out where you have the attractive young healthcare worker with a stethoscope around her neck nuzzling the horse. And it says ivermectin is not for humans. Come on, y'all, you're not a horse, something along those lines. And that tweet went viral.
• 18:00
  And it was very, you know, a lot of people were misled to believe that ivermectin was not for humans. And you know, ivermectin has been used in over 4,000,000,000 people around the world. It is extremely safe for humans. Before I started using it, I went to the website where they give you all the drug approval paperwork. And I looked, I dug into the original approval paperwork, and I was very comfortable with how safe it was.
• 18:34
  There's something called the LD 50, which is the it's a measurement of toxicity of a medication. And it refers to what dosage of the medication would kill fifty percent of lab animals, where sometimes it's in a mouse, sometimes in a rat. But the dose that we're giving to humans would have to be about one hundred times what we're prescribing to reach that LD50 dose. So I knew that it was very safe, and that is from the FDA's own website. That's where I went.
• 19:05
  The other thing that I researched was how many people had overdosed either accidentally or intentionally on ivermectin. If you go and do a literature search for any medication, you can usually find reports. I couldn't find a single report of accidental or intentional overdose from ivermectin. So anyway, but the FDA case, their role is to approve a medication and move on unless they are seen getting, you know, a ton of reports about safety issues, they are not allowed to get on the media and tell patients how to use it. They're not allowed to advertise a drug.
• 19:44
  They're not allowed to, you know, basically play doctor. And that's what they were doing is they were telling, the world, you know, this is not a safe drug. This is a drug only for horses. This is not to be used for COVID. And they basically veered way out of their lane.
• 20:03
  So we are suing them to put them back in their lane. It's not a monetary suit. It's just basically to correct them and have them retract what they said. We lost the initial case, and so we have an appeal, and that is actually next week in New Orleans on August 8.
• 20:24
  Seth Holehouse: Well, good luck with that. It's important, and though it feels like David and Goliath, you know, we have to remember what was the outcome of David and Goliath, right? So there's that, you see that one rock to hit the right place. So in your practice, you know, because I follow you on Twitter, you share a lot of different photos, and so you're treating a lot of people that are coming in vaccine injured, is that right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Right, and prior to the pandemic, I had never seen, to my knowledge, a vaccine injury. And now I see probably two or three a week. It's very sad. And these patients, you know, I don't see the patients with myocarditis and really severe issues. I see the patients with the long term chronic daily disabling problems.
• 21:16
  So the one I saw on Twitter, showed on Twitter was a 15 year old boy, he had had this horrible rash all over his body, face, head, back, very itchy. And he had been on the typical prep. I mean, patients, most doctors would prescribe antihistamines, those didn't work tried steroids that didn't work, and then stepped it up to Xolair, which is a stronger bio modulator that you use for more severe allergy symptoms. That didn't work. So you know, we tried ivermectin, honestly wasn't sure it would work.
• 21:51
  And then I mean, three days, three doses in the rash completely disappeared. It was amazing. And I've had others like that. I've never had one respond that quickly. But he's my youngest one, I think maybe has something to do with him being younger.
• 22:06
  I've had some older patients. It took longer, but they were sort of the same crossroads. They tried everything. And so we tried ivermectin and it worked. I've seen patients, a lot of patients with cardiovascular issues where their blood pressure goes up and down, that's called POTS.
• 22:23
  I see patients with neurological issues, a lot of tremoring, burning sensations, sleeping problems because they feel like they're on fire. Those are the main thing. Tinnitus, I see tinnitus after the shots. I haven't seen Bell's palsy, but I know many of my colleagues have. Shingles, many of my colleagues have.
• 22:46
  But a lot of the neurological, cardiovascular, and then the rashes.
• 22:51
  Seth Holehouse: And a lot of the folks that are having these side effects, I've been following, I'm actually on a different threads on Reddit, you know, that track people that are having reactions or, you know, on these long COVID threads as well. Everyone has long COVID, and it seems though that the based of being because of perhaps the brainwashing or everything surrounding these the fear, get the vaccine, the shame, the guilt if you're not going to get it, that a lot of people, they don't even look in this direction, you know, as to what is causing this. And so when patients are coming in to see you, are they already at a point where they realize they're experiencing an adverse effect from the COVID vaccine, and that's why they're coming to you, or they're coming to you saying, I had this rash, my other doctor can't treat it, I have no idea what's causing it, can you help me?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I'd say majority of them are already convinced it's from the vaccine, but I do have patients where I have to gently convince them. But most of them, because of my notoriety, know my stance and have, I'd say a lot of them have seen multiple other doctors and have been frustrated because the other doctors won't even acknowledge it's a possibility. I mean, I don't like to just assume, you know, you can't assume everything is from the vaccine, but you also can't exclude it as a possibility. But most of them go to these doctors and they get put I mean, I saw this one patient that was put on something that she was put on Ambien, she was put on Xanax, and she was put on Prozac for her, I mean, it was clearly vaccine injury. It was right after the vaccine when all her symptoms started, and refused to admit, they didn't report to VAERS, refused to admit that there could be any possibility it was linked vaccine, and then put on three just really mind altering, unsafe medications.
• 24:56
  So, I see that often. I will say it's hard if you're not like minded because nothing typically shows up on these blood tests. The blood tests, the imaging studies almost always turn up normal. So you know, the doctors that are not like me are just, you know, that they see normal, normal, normal, it's all in your head. But you know, if you realize that, yeah, well, what's behind it is the vaccine, then there are treatment options.
• 25:26
  So most of the time, ended up I end up just almost always start with ivermectin. And, you know, the rash example was my best. You know, it's better than a lab, right? Because seeing how well it responded to the ivermectin convinced me that I'm going to start all my patients on ivermectin. I usually do it daily and I try it for at least a month before giving up.
• 25:52
  So and it doesn't always work. But I do see most of the time it's helpful or really does solve the problem.
• 25:59
  Seth Holehouse: And so you're seeing because this was interesting with with the injuries is that they're, there's such a wide spectrum. It's not like, you know, the side effect of this vaccine is heart problems. I mean, earlier on that was looking like one of the more prominent was say heart or neurological, but it's, it's, it just seems like it's almost everything, and if you if you read through Pfizer's list of potential side effects or adverse events list, which was published, you can see it's like, that was mind blowing how many different problems this could be causing. And so are you seeing that that ivermectin is actually like across the board? I know that you say doesn't work every time, but can you treat someone as having tremors?
• 26:45
  This, you know, will it treat that as well as someone has a rash, as well as someone that has heart problems? I mean, it actually almost like a universal antidote for the vaccine?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say universal. I would say it's a starting point. I think when the nerves are involved, that's a tougher problem. The patient that I'm thinking of with the bad tremors, he ended up having interestingly enough a copper deficiency, and that could be the base of his bad tremors. And we did try ivermectin and it didn't work, but giving him a beta blocker has helped him tremendously.
• 27:25
  And he had seen, you know, four or five other doctors, and no one had just given him a simple beta blocker to stop his shaking. So I mean, Iramenta is not a panacea for everybody after a vaccine injury. I think it has anti inflammatory properties, but it's a very safe drug. And I've seen enough patients respond to it that I almost always try it initially, no matter what the situation is.
• 27:55
  Seth Holehouse: And also, you have patients that are coming in, maybe your more regular patients that perhaps they got the vaccine and maybe they're not having any effects, you know, side effects right now, but they're worried and they're trying to be more preventative because that's one of the questions that I see pretty commonly in the comments to these kinds of videos is people saying, Well, my mom got the vaccine, she got one dose, she's not having any issues now, but what can she be doing to proactively clean up her body and to help, you know, maybe prevent, you know, some of these other symptoms from emerging down the line?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that question a lot. It's a tough one, because I hate to give patients medication when they're not having symptoms, and I do have hope that a lot of these vaccines were duds. You know, they weren't stored properly. Their potency was not, you know, what it should have been, And that, you know, there are a lot of patients out there that really didn't get the vaccine, even though they did. So, but, you know, there is the nattokinase, and I believe that's, have you heard of natto, it's, it's a it's a over the counter blood thinner.
• 29:06
  And it's being used to dissolve the spike protein. And your the dose is one hundred milligrams a day. And if you want to try it, you take it one hundred milligrams a day for three months. Now, if you're already on a blood thinner, or you have a blood disorder, or if you're about to have surgery, you shouldn't take it, you should probably talk to a doctor before starting it. But that's what doctors like myself are using for patients that are worried that they have spike protein that may be causing some clotting or micro clotting.
• 29:40
  That's sort of what we're using. I'm a, you know, patient really wants to try ivermectin just to clear their system. I'm okay letting them try it just again, because it's so I just haven't had any serious side effects from it. So if it will give patient a patient's peace of mind, I'm okay with that. But I do believe that a lot of patients who thought they got vaccinated didn't really get vaccinated because of the way it was stored improperly.
• 30:09
  Seth Holehouse: And that's also a really important point, because obviously it's important to bring attention to what's happening because of the vaccine, and to highlight, like, there's lots of people that are dying suddenly, they're having heart attacks, you know, these things are happening, but I'm a really big believer in the fact that our mind can literally cause our body to be sicker or not sick. Mean, the mind is so powerful, and one of my concerns all along with this has been, you know, what if, like, because there's there's different, you know, hosts, you know, podcasters I follow, and it's almost like they talk as if the vaccine's a death sentence. Like, if you got it, you know, you're, you're in the camp of the people that got it and just wait, it's a ticking time bomb. And, and these are people that have very large followings of folks that now realize and they see the truth. And, you know, my concern is that these people are just going to be waiting for the vaccine problems to happen.
• 31:05
  And maybe they got a saline injection for all we know. But if but if they're so focused on it, we know placebos have cured cancer, right? So that's, that's one of the concerns that I have.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I so when we when the vaccine first came out, and I was looking at, Oh, you know, if we wanted to carry it, what would it entail? And the storage requirements were not what a typical, I don't know how these pharmacies stored it properly. I just have, I just have, knowing how these systems work, I just have low confidence in that these vaccines were across the board stored the way they were supposed to be stored because you needed a special type of freezer to keep them, in the state that they needed to be in.
• 31:56
  Seth Holehouse: Also, wasn't even like you could stick them in your office freezer next to the frozen fish sticks. Mean, they needed
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: special, special equipment.
• 32:05
  Seth Holehouse: I see, I see. Yeah, and that's also what heard too, there's of different batches that a lot of them, know, even if they were good at first, or they weren't, you know, maybe they were mixed improperly, then there's certain batches that had very low amounts of whatever was in them. But yeah, I think it's just it's it is just important though for people that they did get it. It's like first off, you don't live in fear because of that. Because, you know, while I've in my personal life, I obviously didn't get it, but I have friends and family who did, and some have had issues and adverse events and heart attacks and open heart surgeries and problems that now they see or they will admit like, that was because of the vaccine, But I've also had people that have got one or two boosters, and they're just living life healthy and normal.
• 32:56
  And I'm just like hoping and praying. It's like, well, maybe he got the saline ones because, you know.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. And, you know, the more time that elapses and nothing has happened, the more likely you're, you're going to be totally fine.
• 33:13
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, and that's important to remember that. So do you have any kind of final closing thoughts for the audience?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that you're keeping the conversation alive. So I know everybody's tired of COVID and wants to move on. But I think it is important that we hold people accountable and not let this just slide under the rug. So thank you for continuing to talk about it.
• 33:38
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, absolutely. I feel like it's, you know, it's funny, because I struggle sometimes with that balance, because, you know, as a as a journalist and a podcaster, you're you're you know, a lot of times you're you're chasing the the big stories because you want to get more views and expand your audience. But I just I have a hard time, you know, like focusing on the what's what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop today, or all these different things that are the emotional hot button issues, but it's like, to me, there's a few fundamental issues that when we look back, say ten years from now, like, want to be say, Yeah, I focus on the issues that when we look back ten years from now, like, those were the big issues of the day. I really think that COVID, the pandemic, the vaccine, all the corruption behind it, I think to me is something that even one hundred years now will look back and say, yeah, that altered the course of human history. That's how significant this event is.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, it most certainly did. It's unbelievable.
• 34:36
  Seth Holehouse: Well, you again for joining us. It's a pleasure having you on. Good luck with your case versus the FDA, and we'll have to get some updates from you in the future on that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for having me.
• 34:49
  Seth Holehouse: You're welcome. Take care. All right, folks, I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family?
• 35:07
  Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us.
• 35:36
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• 35:58
  Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it is. So that way, if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest.
• 36:20
  This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, a lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds.
• 36:47
  You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year. Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order.
• 37:21
  So again, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.