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INTERVIEW: Nelly Furtado On Breaking Back Into Music, Embracing Her ADHD, Timbaland History + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious,
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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 3: Jess is all maternity leave. So Lolaos is feeling in
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Speaker 3: and we.
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Speaker 2: Got a special guest in the building, Lady Netlie for title.
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Speaker 3: Welcome.
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Speaker 1: Hi, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: How are you?
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Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you?
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Speaker 4: I'm blessed?
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Speaker 2: Black and Holly favorite new album seventy is out today.
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Speaker 4: How does it feel?
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Speaker 1: Congratulations by the way on your work you're doing for community.
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Speaker 1: That's it was on your Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you was talking to this morning.
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. How does the feel be back
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Speaker 4: making music?
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Speaker 1: Incredible?
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Speaker 4: You like this part? Having to come to interviews and
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Speaker 4: be interrogated.
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Speaker 5: It's not as.
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Speaker 1: Fun sometimes nowadays because everything's click bait and I'm like, ah,
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Speaker 1: what you know? Sometimes that's challenging, but it's okay, So
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Speaker 1: like kind of share my vibes, my positive energy.
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Speaker 3: So why so long? It took a long time? Seven years,
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Speaker 3: just busy.
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Speaker 1: I like to kind of keep one foot kind of
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Speaker 1: like in the real world. And then went for entertainments.
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Speaker 1: Entertainments really fast paced, and you have to really be
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Speaker 1: out there to be successful in my industry. And I
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Speaker 1: take I've taken the approach for the last twenty five
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Speaker 1: years to kind of do it go hard for a
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Speaker 1: little bit, but then for my own mental health, I
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Speaker 1: kind of need to take breaks.
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Speaker 4: And exercises.
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Speaker 1: No, kind of yeah, I'm a and so yeah, just
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Speaker 1: like doing the mom thing and kind of like normal
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Speaker 1: normal life. And then and then when I'm in the studio,
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Speaker 1: I get to really express myself and write and produce
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Speaker 1: and invite a lot of friends into the studio and
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Speaker 1: have really late nights and finals. It's the most fun
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Speaker 1: part is making the music for me. I enjoy concerts.
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Speaker 1: I've been out on stage again performing a lot that's
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Speaker 1: been really refreshing and good. But like, yeah, you have
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Speaker 1: to take care of yourself.
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Speaker 6: You know, we're part of mom life. Nelly Fotato inspires music.
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Speaker 3: Nell his music a mom like this.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to say, because you said Brazil, this gives
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Speaker 5: me split servibes.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: You know very.
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Speaker 1: What.
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Speaker 4: Don't go ahead continue look at face.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's pink post it note on.
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Speaker 4: Nobody.
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Speaker 5: No, I do have a lot of energy.
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Speaker 1: I mean to be totally honest. My brain is like,
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Speaker 1: it's different. My brain's different. I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: channels in my brain in a tent of ADHD And
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Speaker 1: this time, when I made this record, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna lean into that. I'm going to write
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Speaker 1: ten songs on I'm going to invite fifty people and
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Speaker 1: once to the studio. I am going to stay up
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Speaker 1: late till eight am. Honestly what this brain can do.
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Speaker 1: And so of course I like festive music. I would.
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Speaker 1: I started to go out again a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: and I would hear my music everywhere. DJs would play it,
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Speaker 1: people would dance, do it. I heard it at house parties.
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Speaker 7: Still slaps, girls still slaps.
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Speaker 1: Think you even if if you hear I'm like a
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Speaker 1: bird at a house party, it goes down.
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Speaker 3: Too really well, you don't Timberland this time right.
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Speaker 1: We have been in the studio but for our own
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Speaker 1: single we released last year. We talk all the time.
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Speaker 1: We're you know, we're you know, family for life. I
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Speaker 1: believe I think we have very similar natures when it
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Speaker 1: comes to creativity. I think that's why we make special
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Speaker 1: music together and we will again for sure.
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Speaker 3: But nothing made this happen right.
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Speaker 1: A lot of.
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Speaker 7: Feels like it sounded like timble and I got the
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Speaker 7: T Minus.
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Speaker 1: Is quite influenced by Timberland. He's a big fan of
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Speaker 1: Simbaland's work. I don't know, are you familiar with T
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Speaker 1: minus work. He does a lot for J Cole. He
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Speaker 1: produces most of J Cole's stuff, and he's had some
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Speaker 1: great records over the year. But what's gat about him
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Speaker 1: is he's passionate. I like to work with people who
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Speaker 1: sure they're in the business, but it's more than business.
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Speaker 1: It's family, you know what I mean. It's like you're invested.
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Speaker 1: He wanted to brand the best of me. So we
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Speaker 1: do have some really really good beats on this album,
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Speaker 1: really good, high quality production. Timberland's favorite song. I've played
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Speaker 1: him a lot of records. His favorite song is Floodgate,
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Speaker 1: which was produced.
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Speaker 4: By f n Z.
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Speaker 1: If you know they're beats, but but save your breath. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I co produced and did a lot of vocal production,
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Speaker 1: but T Minus also came with that rhythm. It was
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Speaker 1: different before and it's a lot of my friends on
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Speaker 1: the song.
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Speaker 3: I said, you recorded four to five hundred songs in
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Speaker 3: the last four years. I have that's a lot of music.
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Speaker 2: To narrow down to just a couple of the album.
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Speaker 2: So how did you narrow it down? And why so
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Speaker 2: many damn songs?
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Speaker 1: Because I don't write like I can't. I can write
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Speaker 1: just on my own, like with the guitar and do
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Speaker 1: that I wrote. I'm I'm like a bird that way.
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Speaker 1: But when I'm in the studio, I like what the
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Speaker 1: approach that I took is I turn the microphones on
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Speaker 1: and I make it sound like I'm at a show.
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Speaker 1: So I put the speakers and everything really loud, and
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Speaker 1: then I have everybody with microphones, including me, everybody, and
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Speaker 1: then I will only hear the music in the studio
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Speaker 1: when when protos is going and I can record everything
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Speaker 1: I do because my lyrics and melodies come to me
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Speaker 1: at the same time, whole entire songs come that way.
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Speaker 1: It just kind of comes. I did that when I
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Speaker 1: was a kid. I didn't talk that much, but I
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Speaker 1: was I would sing. Yeah, I would just sit there
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Speaker 1: and just make up songs, and they made me feel
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Speaker 1: emotional and cry and I didn't quite understand it. But
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Speaker 1: but it is probably the only thing that I do
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Speaker 1: wells of things I don't have an energy drink. I
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Speaker 1: don't have a booty line. I don't got patience for that.
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Speaker 4: One energy you have natural?
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Speaker 1: Is that weird?
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Speaker 4: You're making me a little nervous.
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Speaker 3: Why you don't know?
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Speaker 7: You're just moving and you're talking fast, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 7: I didn't hear that part.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 6: That's why she opened with commentating on your your mental work,
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Speaker 6: because she says she deals with add and her mental
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Speaker 6: health stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I think it's because she was moving fast. It might
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Speaker 5: have went for.
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Speaker 1: Real, like before. I only got diagnosed a couple of
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Speaker 1: years ago. But as a child and growing up in
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Speaker 1: my teens, I'd be that girl that my friends would
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Speaker 1: be like where did she go? Because I would just
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Speaker 1: stare in the space and I thought I was just
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Speaker 1: scattered brain all the things, you know, And I would
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Speaker 1: judge myself or I thought I was unorganized or lazy
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Speaker 1: or procrastinate.
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Speaker 5: But did you do what?
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Speaker 4: Score me? Sometimes? So I ignore them. I'm just saying
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Speaker 4: in general, like these two like ignore them all the time.
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Speaker 3: Like we talked, we ignore him too, that we.
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Speaker 5: Locked in over here, no switching up. We don't know
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Speaker 5: what he be over to.
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Speaker 1: That's okay, what was it?
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Speaker 5: You when you were diagnosed? How old were you?
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Speaker 6: Sorry, how old were you when you were diagnosed with eighty?
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Speaker 1: Forty three? Forty three?
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Speaker 6: Okay, so what was that like actually having like a okay,
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Speaker 6: I know what this is now, I know how to
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I read a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of books about oh, particularly women with eighty because
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Speaker 1: of the experience for women's a little different, you know,
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Speaker 1: because you know there's more pressure, you know, Especial's Mom's right.
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Speaker 1: It's like you know, you're supposed to have your your
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Speaker 1: house together, you know, in all the ways. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: so just self acceptance, self love.
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Speaker 4: You got three kids, right, three?
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Speaker 1: Yep, yes, I do, twenty one, six and five?
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Speaker 4: Oh is it?
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Speaker 7: A six year and a five year old? Don't know
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Speaker 7: nothing about music? Nellie for tadle a little.
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Speaker 1: Bit, only because my I have a friend leader. She's
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Speaker 1: a she's another artist leader from she's from Columbia. And
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Speaker 1: one day we were chilling all friends, like the kids
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Speaker 1: have friends with her kids, and she said, these they
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Speaker 1: don't even know what you do. Let's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: let's play them something. And I said, okay, only if
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Speaker 1: I could play your thing too, So we kind of
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Speaker 1: shared that that side. That day was the first song
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Speaker 1: say it right. I think it was a live performance
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Speaker 1: in Paris or something like that. Yeah, they liked it.
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Speaker 7: What vibe were you on when you wrote Promiscuous Crowd
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Speaker 7: back back then? And what did your parents think of it?
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Speaker 1: My parents? I mean I was, Yeah, I was already
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Speaker 1: at the house at that time. I mean I already
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Speaker 1: had a daughter, it's already kind of had my own house.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I've never asked my mom ever.
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Speaker 6: She's never like commented like, hey, hey, the song because
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Speaker 6: I mean, no, yeah, I think so well.
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Speaker 1: I mean I remember being fourteen in our house growing up,
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Speaker 1: and Salt Peppa had a song Let's talk about sex, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it will come on the little radio in my
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Speaker 1: kitchen and my mom will be like, didn't turn it on?
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Speaker 1: The kid, So I grew up on like TLC, Salt
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Speaker 1: and Pepper absolutely very empowered, you know, in talking about
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Speaker 1: sexuality and talking about choice. I believe promiscuses a song
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Speaker 1: about choice. And what I like about it is the
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Speaker 1: male voice and female vos voice or on it even
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Speaker 1: playing field in the song. But interesting and interestingly enough,
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Speaker 1: people still call it promiscuose, but the song is actually
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Speaker 1: called promiscuous. It's not girl or boy.
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Speaker 5: Oh because of those hooks.
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Speaker 6: We I think I always thought it was prom excuse girl,
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Speaker 6: not just excuse Wow.
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Speaker 7: And this new album seven, what does the number seven
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Speaker 7: mean to you? I know, I know it's your seven filbum.
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Speaker 7: I know you put out album seven years ago, but
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Speaker 7: what does the number seven actually mean you?
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Speaker 1: To be honest, I kind of wanted a title this
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Speaker 1: like really simple, like a almost like a fashion collection.
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Speaker 1: Fashion collections. Uh. And I love the song seven by
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Speaker 1: Prince Princes is one of my favorite artists of all time.
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Speaker 1: And I got to meet Prince a few times and
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Speaker 1: I opened for him before, and I don't know, his
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Speaker 1: music just touches me in a way. So I think
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Speaker 1: that's another that's another sort of thread.
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Speaker 7: I wonder, you know, because you have so much success
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Speaker 7: with Wold Nelly, how was your relationship with famous success
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Speaker 7: evolved over the years, because there had to be a
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Speaker 7: point where you felt like it was too much?
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Speaker 1: Right several times? Okay, yeah, the first It's good to
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the first time because the first time, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: when I did my did my first album, I think
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Speaker 1: a lot happened very quickly, things like you know, opportunities,
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Speaker 1: great opportunities.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: One of my first TV performances was SNL Wow, Like
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Speaker 1: what the hell I was deer in the headlights?
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Speaker 6: You know, Like did you understand it at that time?
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Speaker 6: I just said twenty that how big it was? Or
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Speaker 6: were you just like, I gotta do this thing.
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Speaker 1: I signed my record deal when I was twenty. I
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Speaker 1: just love music so much. I would do anything, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'd love the music. So I was just happy to
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Speaker 1: share the music because I write my music, you know.
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Speaker 1: So it was like the music nerd inside of me
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Speaker 1: was actually to be totally honest, I was competing with
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Speaker 1: people that had been you know, have been kind of grown.
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Speaker 1: They had grown up in the spotlight, maybe through like
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Speaker 1: you know, the Disney Channel or anything like that, right,
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Speaker 1: But I grew up singing in church or in school.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have experience in front of the TV. I
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Speaker 1: was very nervous singing on TV. At first, my.
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Speaker 5: Voice would shake.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't it until my third album, Loose, that I
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Speaker 1: started more choreography and kind of coming to playing a character.
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Speaker 3: How difficult it.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't coming from Canada kind of hard at the time,
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Speaker 2: because now it's acceptable, right, you see so many artists,
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Speaker 2: whether it's The Weekend Drake or whatever. But back then,
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Speaker 2: it was like they looked at Canada as a whole
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Speaker 2: different world.
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Speaker 1: It was the best kept secret in the late nineties.
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Speaker 1: Like when I first I moved there from the West
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Speaker 1: Coast from for a really small town and I moved
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Speaker 1: to Toronto and I was just seventeen years old. I
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Speaker 1: had a trip hop group called Nelstar. I worked at
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Speaker 1: an alarm company during the day in customer service and
12:10
Speaker 1: the alarms broke a lot. They're wireless. That's not a
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Speaker 1: good idea. And then I would sing and use the
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Speaker 1: paycheck to pay for my recordings and we had a
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Speaker 1: burgeoning hip hop, urban electronic. Get me goosebumps when I
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Speaker 1: said that, I feel very I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: really nostalgic feelings for Toronto at the time, and so
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Speaker 1: to watch it grow has been really fun.
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Speaker 4: Blame Drake for all the growth, and in the Weekend
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Speaker 4: as well. In the Weekend yeah bib Biba as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the time, you had to go to the
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Speaker 1: States and sign a record deal in the US really
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Speaker 1: to really cross over. But in Canada, the reason why
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Speaker 1: you have so many amazing artists to come from Canada's
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Speaker 1: because we actually we promote our local music. In Canada.
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Speaker 1: There's a rule you have to pay thirty percent local
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Speaker 1: new So if you're listening to the radio growing up
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Speaker 1: or watching TV, you're gonna see thirty percent. It's called
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Speaker 1: CanCon so you see Canadian. Yeah, so Drake, that's why
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Speaker 1: he references so many Canadian things. And you might be,
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Speaker 1: what's that. You know, it's because we're all, you know,
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Speaker 1: grew up respecting and liking the things culturally that we
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Speaker 1: grew up with watching, which to exactly. And so the arts,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of arts grants and things like that
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Speaker 1: to kind of develop artists, which is really nice. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's why it feels strong and healthy and
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Speaker 1: making this album. I made a lot of it in Toronto.
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Speaker 1: It's so easy to find talent there, like any musician anything.
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Speaker 1: And I like, there's so much talent. It's crazy.
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Speaker 4: You said something earlier, you said that you had to
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Speaker 4: play a character.
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Speaker 1: Oh well when you're on stage. Yeah, I think I
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Speaker 1: started started studying acting right before I made it Loose,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, I learned how to kind of get into
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Speaker 1: a character and what that means, you know, And so
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Speaker 1: I think in a song. I started realizing that in
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Speaker 1: a video you can create a whole narrative in your
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Speaker 1: mind the way and acting or does. I got a
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Speaker 1: couple of roles from that. I think, you know, if
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Speaker 1: people watch videos of mind and so I think you
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Speaker 1: could do this, you know, And that's how I got
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Speaker 1: a role in Max Pain. I have a small scene
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Speaker 1: with Mark Olber because the director said, I saw say
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Speaker 1: it right, and I feel like you could pull off
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Speaker 1: this role. But I remember creating a whole narrative in
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Speaker 1: that video because like, I don't ride around in a
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Speaker 1: helicopter like see it revideo. I'm in a helicopter. So
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Speaker 1: in my head, I say, okay, what am I? Who
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Speaker 1: am I am? I like, you know, from a wealthy
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Speaker 1: family or something about a helicopter. You know where am
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Speaker 1: I going? I'm going to a party and I spy?
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Speaker 1: You know. So you create something in your mind so
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Speaker 1: that the performance looks and feels a certain way.
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Speaker 7: Did you ever get lost in character so much? Just
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Speaker 7: getting lost in the whole nelly for toarto, to performer
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Speaker 7: over all that you had. That's that's another reason why
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Speaker 7: you had to step away, because you might've been losing yourself.
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Speaker 4: A little bit.
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Speaker 1: Oh, let me think, I'm trying to think. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think again, it's a fast paced business, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's fast paced, and so you don't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of time to to ground or balance
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Speaker 1: or that's the nature of travel, right. If you're flying
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Speaker 1: around the world doing concerts, like, you don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of time to sleep or you know, so of
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Speaker 1: course you're gonna get burnt out. To answer your question, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get burnt out. So yeah, and then the
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Speaker 1: added bonus of when you live real life you write
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Speaker 1: really good songs.
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Speaker 8: Like if you just like.
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Speaker 1: Live it out, it's like, okay, you got a lot
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Speaker 1: of content, you know. Whereas right, imagine if you're just
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Speaker 1: like on the road, I mean, there are people who
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Speaker 1: write really good albums on the road. Timbaland used to
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Speaker 1: have a bus on I don't know which was it,
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Speaker 1: I don't know which tour it was, but he had
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Speaker 1: a whole studio bus. He recorded an entire album every
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Speaker 1: night after he got off stage. So, depending on what
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Speaker 1: kind of music you make and what inspires you did
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Speaker 1: as possible, did.
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Speaker 4: You party a lot?
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Speaker 2: Because this is a party album, So did you in
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Speaker 2: this album, Yes, very up temple party.
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Speaker 1: Like, I feel like I went out and celebrated a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was like in my element, and I think that
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Speaker 1: there might have been other people around that were like
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Speaker 1: kind of maybe like some tequila or something like that.
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Speaker 1: But I don't really drink in the studio.
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Speaker 7: I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do drugs or drink. I don't
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Speaker 1: do any drugs, but I drink tequila once in a while,
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Speaker 1: but not in the studio. I like, I'm a totally
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Speaker 1: sober every song I've everden, I've been towe hundred percent sober.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually proud.
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Speaker 4: Tequila's plant based. Tequila's plant based.
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Speaker 1: No, I know tequilas is nice.
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Actually, I don't write or record
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Speaker 1: under the influence. And I've never done a like Oh
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Speaker 1: one time I had like a couple of SIPs alcohol
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Speaker 1: before a show, but it was like just a couple
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Speaker 1: of songs, and I was like, I'm never doing this again.
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Speaker 1: I felt so dizzy, was gonna like I have felt
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Speaker 1: flushed since.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, music is subjective tho, because it's all about perspective, right,
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Speaker 7: Like nbcaid, he feels like he gets the party vibe.
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Speaker 7: But then some people can say they feel like you're
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Speaker 7: healing from a heartbreak on this album, because yeah, I
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Speaker 7: love Bites and Ready for Myself and save your breath.
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Speaker 4: So what was your And I can't even.
16:52
Speaker 7: Say what was your mental state when you was doing
16:53
Speaker 7: his album because did five hundred songs, But what's your vibe?
16:55
Speaker 1: I guess Okay. So I had a break up and
16:58
Speaker 1: then I was like hurting the day while dude, it
17:03
Speaker 1: started off so sad, like the b sides are like
17:05
Speaker 1: a whole other record. They're like that really sad emo
17:08
Speaker 1: folk album. Because I got there and I was like,
17:10
Speaker 1: mm wow, I haven't been here in five years. I
17:12
Speaker 1: haven't been to the studio in five years.
17:14
Speaker 5: I took a break.
17:14
Speaker 1: I had my two babies back to back, fourteen months apart.
17:17
Speaker 1: I kind of took I choked them off to be
17:20
Speaker 1: like a stay at home mom, which I also love.
17:22
Speaker 1: But it was time to get back in and kind
17:24
Speaker 1: of find myself again, because I think we can all
17:26
Speaker 1: relate after breakup. You sometimes lost, You're like, WHOA who
17:29
Speaker 1: am I you know?
17:31
Speaker 4: Why did you break up? If you don't mind us asking.
17:34
Speaker 1: You over here?
17:37
Speaker 6: Because I was because some of the songs are like
17:41
Speaker 6: love bites ready for Myself, which I guess ready for
17:43
Speaker 6: myself is that you finding yourself again?
17:46
Speaker 1: Oh that's a fun one.
17:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
17:47
Speaker 1: Okay. The truth is I I did a lot of
17:50
Speaker 1: self work in the the the like I started this
17:53
Speaker 1: album four years ago, uh, and I was between a
17:56
Speaker 1: lot of journaling, a lot of like a lot of
17:59
Speaker 1: like know yeah, just like really kind of getting to
18:03
Speaker 1: know myself, which is another added bonus of not being
18:05
Speaker 1: on the wheel all the time.
18:06
Speaker 6: But save your breath kind of gives like, you know,
18:08
Speaker 6: you're in a good space now, like you're kind of
18:10
Speaker 6: forward whatever.
18:11
Speaker 5: But thank you.
18:15
Speaker 1: That means a lot to me. I'm proud of that one.
18:17
Speaker 1: It's actually probably the one I'm proud of stuff kind
18:20
Speaker 1: of my whole career actually yeah, my friends running career careers. Wow.
18:26
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know, but I was.
18:29
Speaker 6: I brought that one up because it's like to Envy's question,
18:33
Speaker 6: like what are you what were you moving on from?
18:35
Speaker 6: Like what was the like you said it was life,
18:36
Speaker 6: but like what is life? Like things happen in relationships?
18:40
Speaker 6: What are those things for you that you're like, this
18:42
Speaker 6: is a no for me. It's not for men. Just
18:45
Speaker 6: like you got to reinvent yourself. I think I thrive
18:48
Speaker 6: off that though.
18:48
Speaker 1: I like that space, you know, I like that space
18:51
Speaker 1: of like it's just me because I don't know, I'm
18:54
Speaker 1: pretty good at being single, good at it.
18:56
Speaker 8: Man.
19:01
Speaker 6: First of all, this is my first question. That's a
19:04
Speaker 6: way first time being single ever in my adult life. Yeah,
19:07
Speaker 6: so you know it's funny forties Yeah, the three kids. Yeah,
19:12
Speaker 6: so it was back to back to back, a lot
19:14
Speaker 6: of back to back.
19:14
Speaker 1: And then yeah, yeah, it's like kind of like you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: suddenly singling, Like just taking forty three and really knowing
19:20
Speaker 1: yourself is kind of a gift. Yeah.
19:23
Speaker 6: Do you at this point in your life, like what
19:25
Speaker 6: is getting back to a relationship at some point looked
19:28
Speaker 6: like for you? Because I mean you've been in relationships
19:31
Speaker 6: forty three three kids? Like, are you looking to like
19:33
Speaker 6: marriage next or do you want to have fun? Like
19:34
Speaker 6: what is next for you?
19:35
Speaker 1: Just dating? I'm on like fun dates, you know, yeah, whatever,
19:41
Speaker 1: have fun.
19:42
Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
19:43
Speaker 1: Period.
19:44
Speaker 5: Now this is switching gears.
19:46
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, well, I said, Kamala Harris used
19:49
Speaker 3: your record.
19:50
Speaker 1: On their next and it's so funny.
19:54
Speaker 2: So how did that feel when you heard her using
19:55
Speaker 2: your record? You hear that she used your record?
19:57
Speaker 1: Man?
19:57
Speaker 4: Or no? Of course?
19:58
Speaker 3: Okay, did they ask you clear? Did they just use it?
20:02
Speaker 1: No, it's TikTok. I don't know, it's just like it's
20:05
Speaker 1: what it is. I'm honored.
20:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think that song scares man away from you?
20:12
Speaker 1: Oh?
20:12
Speaker 7: Wait?
20:13
Speaker 1: I think I was asked that before, like wait, are
20:17
Speaker 1: you really a man?
20:18
Speaker 2: Eat?
20:19
Speaker 1: Bye bye guy? But no, I don't think it shouldn't.
20:26
Speaker 1: It's just a song, should it.
20:31
Speaker 4: I don't think think. I think whatever you want to do,
20:35
Speaker 4: you can do. Man.
20:36
Speaker 6: Nothing is on your groundwork of what he should feel
20:39
Speaker 6: when he is in your facinity.
20:42
Speaker 7: You're interested in me because I just like the space
20:44
Speaker 7: you're in, because you are in your own world, like
20:47
Speaker 7: you have your own energy, and I think.
20:50
Speaker 4: That's probably preserve your energy, right absolutely, and not let
20:55
Speaker 4: anybody else shift who you are.
20:56
Speaker 7: Like the whole time we're talking to you, I'm like, Oh,
20:58
Speaker 7: there's nothing that's going to to shift who she is.
21:02
Speaker 4: She's comfortable with who she is.
21:04
Speaker 1: Thank you. I've worked really hard at that and it
21:06
Speaker 1: doesn't come overnight, that's for sure. And I think that's
21:09
Speaker 1: why sort of my ability as a producer and musician
21:12
Speaker 1: has gotten better and greater because now I think when
21:15
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, I was always confident. I mean,
21:18
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, I was an individual, But now
21:22
Speaker 1: I just, I don't know, have healthy sense of detachment
21:24
Speaker 1: and boundaries. I'm not trying to feel everybody's feelings, you know,
21:28
Speaker 1: but that empathy like that could be that could be hard,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know.
21:32
Speaker 7: And I get the sense that you're just having fun
21:34
Speaker 7: now because you realize this, this shit ain't really about nothing.
21:38
Speaker 7: You got your kid, You can go home be a
21:41
Speaker 7: mother when you want.
21:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have a lot of other interests, like
21:44
Speaker 1: outside of music, I get. I mean they're not that exciting,
21:46
Speaker 1: but I mean dancing, and I like dancing. I like
21:49
Speaker 1: that's what TikTok's funny. Can do dance and go to
21:51
Speaker 1: the dance studio. It helps me stay to mind. The
21:54
Speaker 1: choreography is the discipline. But yes, to answer your question,
22:01
Speaker 1: I did use it as almost like I like to
22:03
Speaker 1: get through the last few years. I was like, okay, well, identity, right,
22:06
Speaker 1: I was talking about identity. I was like, okay, well
22:08
Speaker 1: what am I good at? I forgot that how good
22:10
Speaker 1: I was at music, I was like, really, yeah, man,
22:12
Speaker 1: I got to this chat and I was like, wait,
22:13
Speaker 1: I'm really good. And then my songs kept getting played
22:16
Speaker 1: again by DJs on social media, and it was like
22:19
Speaker 1: I felt called back to it. I felt like, Okay.
22:21
Speaker 1: It's easy to like second guess yourself when you have
22:23
Speaker 1: like maybe one hit and you're like twenty five, you know,
22:25
Speaker 1: and you can maybe have a lot of feelings of
22:28
Speaker 1: you know, like you're not sure. But when you're twenty
22:32
Speaker 1: five years into a career and then your songs are
22:35
Speaker 1: still touching people, you're reaching brand new audiences, You're reaching
22:40
Speaker 1: kids that weren't even born when the music came out.
22:43
Speaker 1: That starts to feel very real, very authentic, and something
22:47
Speaker 1: you can maybe lean into a little bit more with
22:49
Speaker 1: a little more confidence, right, And so that's what's happened
22:51
Speaker 1: to me the last few years. I found my identity
22:53
Speaker 1: again with my craft of like I'm good at this.
22:56
Speaker 1: I've always been good at this. It's about the music.
22:59
Speaker 1: You know.
23:00
Speaker 7: That's interesting because your lyrics always have explored like themes
23:02
Speaker 7: of identity and love and self discovery. So now these
23:06
Speaker 7: new personal experiences are influencing I guess this new messaging.
23:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say so, I would say, so it's
23:13
Speaker 1: just beginning and kind of you know, I mean, you
23:15
Speaker 1: got to stay in there to be good, you know,
23:17
Speaker 1: to be a good like you got to be in
23:19
Speaker 1: the studio a lot, you know what I mean. If
23:21
Speaker 1: you want to stay like on top of your game,
23:23
Speaker 1: you can't really rest even you have to kind of
23:26
Speaker 1: keep going. And I found lately, yeah, I'm gonna it's
23:28
Speaker 1: all about the flow that you're in and bless you
23:32
Speaker 1: and access to that originality of sorts.
23:35
Speaker 2: I always wanted to know how did you and Timberland meet,
23:38
Speaker 2: Like how did that relationship come so strong? And then
23:41
Speaker 2: just in Timer late later on, like you guys were
23:43
Speaker 2: strong three or people thought you was going to trio.
23:44
Speaker 2: People thought y'all were going to do an album with each other.
23:46
Speaker 2: So how did y'all initially meet.
23:48
Speaker 1: It's a really special chemistry between the three of us.
23:52
Speaker 1: So the really cool my little origin story with Timbaland
23:56
Speaker 1: we'd like to hear is that in two thousand and one,
24:01
Speaker 1: you know, I put out my first album Wonellie in
24:03
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, song called baby Girl it's kind
24:07
Speaker 1: of like but about but ding Ding Jing about bu
24:09
Speaker 1: but ding Ding what about the day. It's like a
24:11
Speaker 1: vocal a vocal rangement we did. Timberland heard the song
24:15
Speaker 1: and someone from a Vira company said, hey, Timblin' Timbling's
24:20
Speaker 1: a fan of yours. He wants to sample this song,
24:21
Speaker 1: but he'd also like to meet you and'd like to
24:23
Speaker 1: come to the studio. So right away I was a
24:25
Speaker 1: huge fan already, you know Miss the albums and and everything.
24:28
Speaker 1: So I went to the studio and we hit it
24:31
Speaker 1: off from the jump, like right away. It was like
24:35
Speaker 1: I had to get in the booth and I started
24:38
Speaker 1: singing over the song. I mean he didn't I hadn't
24:40
Speaker 1: invited me to sing at that pot, but I just
24:41
Speaker 1: was like, I need a thing, turn the mic on,
24:43
Speaker 1: and then I was on the song and it was
24:44
Speaker 1: a sample for Miss Jade, an artist he had at
24:46
Speaker 1: the time.
24:47
Speaker 6: I did not know that was so that was a
24:49
Speaker 6: sample of your original song. It was I did not
24:51
Speaker 6: know that he sampled me. And then the story doesn't
24:54
Speaker 6: end there. I ended up uh touring with the Miss Jade.
24:58
Speaker 6: She I had had her opening for me on in
25:00
Speaker 6: the US, and then Timberland came.
25:02
Speaker 1: For a little run too. He did a turn off
25:04
Speaker 1: a light remix. But in addition, that very first day,
25:06
Speaker 1: he goes, I want you to hear something. Sit down,
25:10
Speaker 1: so we said, and like I sat in a good
25:11
Speaker 1: spot right in front of the speakers and he played
25:14
Speaker 1: me get your freak on. I Missy Alliott Yeah, and
25:16
Speaker 1: no one had heard it. I was probably one of
25:18
Speaker 1: the first people to hear it. And he goes, Missy
25:21
Speaker 1: wants you own the remix? Can you go to I'm sorry,
25:24
Speaker 1: but I don't remember the state we went. It was,
25:26
Speaker 1: I probably Virginia to record it. Can you fly to
25:29
Speaker 1: Virginia next week or whatever? And I said yes, And
25:32
Speaker 1: I'm literally twenty two, and I remember I went with
25:38
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. I just flew there on
25:40
Speaker 1: my own and I get to the studio and Missy's like, hey,
25:42
Speaker 1: what's up. You know I saw your video. I'm like
25:46
Speaker 1: a bird and I was like, who's this girl in
25:47
Speaker 1: shelters and like the princess Leah buns like this is
25:50
Speaker 1: this is so cool? You're like like your energy.
25:52
Speaker 4: I feel like you started doing our sound effects to her,
25:54
Speaker 4: like BB you do stuff like that.
25:58
Speaker 1: Well, she just left with the engineer. She's like, Okay,
26:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit out here. Here's my engineer, you know, Brian.
26:03
Speaker 1: I don't remember his damn sorry, right, But then I
26:06
Speaker 1: sat in the studio and I was like, Okay, it's
26:09
Speaker 1: game time. I gotta hit this verse out of the park.
26:12
Speaker 1: And when I was coming up in Toronto, I would
26:14
Speaker 1: do this thing where I tried I had too many
26:16
Speaker 1: lyrics and I had to try to fit them all
26:17
Speaker 1: in the bars, so I had to come up with
26:20
Speaker 1: a way to sing rap them, you know. And so
26:23
Speaker 1: that's the style you hear on that record that I
26:25
Speaker 1: get a frequent remix. So I'm in there and I'm like,
26:28
Speaker 1: I gotta it. Oh God, I just like yeah, I
26:31
Speaker 1: just went for it. And then she did love it.
26:33
Speaker 4: So she was first verse you laid.
26:35
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, that's it done. Deal Records.
26:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Justin Timberlake. How did y'all meet?
26:40
Speaker 1: Justin met So Timberland, and I flew to, you know,
26:44
Speaker 1: make good on the promise of all our earlier remixes
26:48
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ivan from my lip so you gotta go work
26:50
Speaker 1: with him again and fulfill the promise of that chemistry,
26:53
Speaker 1: you know. So I was like yeah, and we were
26:55
Speaker 1: in the same state of mind musically. We were listening
26:58
Speaker 1: a lot of like really cool stuff, like kind of
27:00
Speaker 1: rock and like just interesting a mix of things. You're
27:04
Speaker 1: on the same wavelength. I flew to Miami and you
27:06
Speaker 1: started cutting Loose with Timblin. We finished Loose, Justin heard
27:12
Speaker 1: it and you know, kept going with Tim and finished
27:16
Speaker 1: Feature Sex Love Sounds, And so while I was finishing
27:20
Speaker 1: my record, Justin was starting that and he came through
27:22
Speaker 1: the studio and yeah, he's so impressive. He's a real deal,
27:26
Speaker 1: really talented, and he was like right there when we
27:29
Speaker 1: wanted him to be on this, this new song we
27:31
Speaker 1: put out last year called Keep Going Up. And I
27:33
Speaker 1: don't know, it just feels, you know, I think actions
27:35
Speaker 1: speak loud of the words in a way, you know,
27:37
Speaker 1: with that with family and the idea of supporting you know, artists,
27:41
Speaker 1: because you know how it is, it's business, right, so
27:43
Speaker 1: it's cool when people can you know, deliver that way.
27:46
Speaker 1: So quickly. It was a quick turnaround. We just made
27:48
Speaker 1: the record and we put it out.
27:49
Speaker 6: And were there any because those are like historical, like
27:52
Speaker 6: you listened to Missy Elliot's song before anybody heard it,
27:54
Speaker 6: and that song is you know what I mean, it's huge.
27:56
Speaker 6: Were there any songs that you got to hear first
27:58
Speaker 6: and you were like, oh, maybe it's not for me,
27:59
Speaker 6: and then it like became a staple icon like that song.
28:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.
28:04
Speaker 1: We thought Promiscuous was just going to be like a
28:06
Speaker 1: club record just for the clubs. We thought it would
28:09
Speaker 1: just kind of just come out, people dance to it
28:12
Speaker 1: for a bit, and then it was just shot to
28:13
Speaker 1: number one. It was number one for weeks and weeks
28:15
Speaker 1: and weeks.
28:16
Speaker 6: I think you're talking about people that like your yeah,
28:18
Speaker 6: like where they bring you on, because I feel like
28:20
Speaker 6: you you had such a yeah.
28:22
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Drastic five Jurassic Five used to record
28:25
Speaker 1: in their house in LA and they I'm on a
28:28
Speaker 1: song called fin Line the Roots Fornology. I was like,
28:32
Speaker 1: listen to Cody Chestnut before because I heard Cody chess
28:35
Speaker 1: this whole thing before he came up with that album,
28:37
Speaker 1: because he would be hanging in Philly with the Roots,
28:39
Speaker 1: shout out Questlove, Fill friends with Quest Love. After all
28:42
Speaker 1: these years. We used to used to sing Isa sing
28:44
Speaker 1: you got Me on on the Area one tour that
28:48
Speaker 1: Outcast was on with the Roots, And so that's he's
28:53
Speaker 1: the realist, one of the realists in the business.
28:55
Speaker 4: I think and.
28:57
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, Phrenology album. I'm on that album too. I
29:02
Speaker 1: don't know. So Cody Chestnut pretty legendary. He'd be hanging
29:06
Speaker 1: around in Philly and we heard all his songs. Shoot,
29:10
Speaker 1: now you're like, no, I'm like, I like this type
29:12
Speaker 1: of conversations. Yeah, and it's like just cool like records,
29:18
Speaker 1: just cool stuff before before I got came thinking, yeah,
29:23
Speaker 1: the good question.
29:24
Speaker 7: Before I got to business, before the business took over.
29:27
Speaker 7: That's what it feels like when.
29:29
Speaker 1: You like, you mean now the business now versus how
29:31
Speaker 1: the business?
29:31
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like it seems like back then when you're talking,
29:33
Speaker 7: it was just creative and it was fun.
29:35
Speaker 4: It was you're doing it for the love.
29:38
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean it was. I mean, I
29:41
Speaker 1: don't know because I felt like I kind of blew
29:43
Speaker 1: up with my first album because I was already like
29:45
Speaker 1: on pretty big tours and doing but it was a
29:47
Speaker 1: different type of thing, I guess than Loose because then
29:50
Speaker 1: Louse was I guess even bigger than that album.
29:54
Speaker 9: So yeah, well I'm trying to think, I'm trying to
29:59
Speaker 9: a man, trying to think of some other songs like that.
30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little Wayne remix of and he recorded
30:09
Speaker 1: it in Miami.
30:11
Speaker 6: Is no that never we never heard that though, right,
30:16
Speaker 6: huh we never heard that remix.
30:18
Speaker 1: I think someone leaked it like recently, not that like
30:21
Speaker 1: I feel like if you could probably find it on
30:23
Speaker 1: the internet. But because the uh, his his studio was
30:30
Speaker 1: was right right beside where Jimbalon woodwork, right there at
30:32
Speaker 1: the hip factory, and and uh he he came through
30:40
Speaker 1: and did it like he did a really amazing verse
30:42
Speaker 1: and we had a remix act though music's totally different.
30:44
Speaker 1: I performed that remix before, but not with Little Wayne's verse.
30:47
Speaker 1: But cool little things like that.
30:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can I ask about motherhood, can ask you
30:51
Speaker 7: about motherhood? How is motherhood like influenced your perspective on life?
30:56
Speaker 4: And it isn't your daughter?
30:57
Speaker 1: I have three kids involved in this album? Yeah act
31:00
Speaker 1: So Yeah, she's turning twenty one tomorrow. Same an album
31:02
Speaker 1: comes out Wow, And she's credited as one of the
31:04
Speaker 1: an r's on the album actually, and she works in
31:06
Speaker 1: the music business. She's working already at a second record
31:09
Speaker 1: company she's worked at and she's she's in marketing A
31:12
Speaker 1: and R. She goes sand Yu and she's really smart.
31:15
Speaker 7: Is she like the person that you're afraid to play
31:17
Speaker 7: your music for Yeah, it's like I thought.
31:21
Speaker 1: That crazy stuff with my friend and my friend played
31:23
Speaker 1: it for her, and I'm like, oh, you played her
31:24
Speaker 1: that one.
31:25
Speaker 5: It's just like, you know, good critique.
31:27
Speaker 6: She normally saying, back to the music she doesn't like,
31:31
Speaker 6: what does she say she doesn't like something with it?
31:34
Speaker 1: She said, of course, yeah, she's very opinionated and she's talented,
31:40
Speaker 1: so so she she has some court rights too. She
31:42
Speaker 1: wrote some stuff on the album too with me, but
31:44
Speaker 1: it was like super low key, you know, like no
31:46
Speaker 1: big deal because she has a little other administrative side
31:49
Speaker 1: as well. So anyways, yeah, it's a process. She reminded
31:53
Speaker 1: me actually to kind of be real with my sound,
31:57
Speaker 1: and she kept saying this one thing. She said, Mom,
32:00
Speaker 1: there's two you know, you need to make the music
32:03
Speaker 1: three dimensional. You know this beat isn't three dimensional enough.
32:06
Speaker 1: It's like two basic or like your vocals are like
32:09
Speaker 1: it needs it. We need to round out the sound
32:11
Speaker 1: like real kind of I guess I feel like she
32:14
Speaker 1: was thinking about everything, kind of like like she and
32:17
Speaker 1: our well and are kind of like creative director like
32:19
Speaker 1: tiny desk I did recently. She was very involved and
32:24
Speaker 1: was like, no, you gotta do this. She is the
32:26
Speaker 1: one who told me to do to get your freaking remix. Wow,
32:29
Speaker 1: she said you must.
32:30
Speaker 7: Do that one your most most honest inn are ever
32:33
Speaker 7: like your most honest critic.
32:34
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of like it's cool having kids, especially
32:37
Speaker 1: if become adults, because it's the closest thing to having
32:39
Speaker 1: like a second brain, you know, when you're like, I
32:41
Speaker 1: wish I had two people so I could get more done,
32:44
Speaker 1: you know, so she'll like come in like in those
32:47
Speaker 1: moments you know, where I'm like I need help, you know,
32:49
Speaker 1: finishing this artwork or like what do you think? Like,
32:52
Speaker 1: you know, it's really really it's been a blessing.
32:54
Speaker 4: Did you want her to be in the music Injury?
32:57
Speaker 1: No I didn't. I really kept her away from the spotlight. Yeah,
33:00
Speaker 1: I protected it. I tried my best to protect a
33:02
Speaker 1: privacy because you know, like you know, I think that's important.
33:08
Speaker 4: And the books are crazy.
33:10
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I mean, how are you gonna you know,
33:17
Speaker 10: you gotta you don't know who you are, you gonna
33:19
Speaker 10: become you, and I think that's important.
33:21
Speaker 1: And yeah, so music business. Don't want my kids to
33:26
Speaker 1: be you can't fight it. If they're talented, I don't think,
33:29
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, look, it's somebody like
33:30
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, Like it's clear he wanted to be there
33:33
Speaker 1: singing like this is some music was coming out of
33:35
Speaker 1: him at a young age as a kid. And you know,
33:38
Speaker 1: I was singing at a young age. But you know,
33:40
Speaker 1: I didn't get to do it professionally till later. But
33:41
Speaker 1: I'm grateful because I got to go to college for it.
33:44
Speaker 1: But I got to backpack in Europe, I got to
33:46
Speaker 1: go to prom you know, to be to go to
33:48
Speaker 1: work the alarm company.
33:49
Speaker 7: You know, it's got to be tough when you're disconnecting
33:51
Speaker 7: from the industry and your.
33:53
Speaker 4: Daughter wants to be in it.
33:55
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't mind. I don't mind because she's more
34:00
Speaker 1: on the marketing and the business side, you know what
34:02
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm just always like.
34:03
Speaker 6: Was that her choice or did you encourage her to
34:05
Speaker 6: go in from that side and just do the creative
34:07
Speaker 6: stuff with you?
34:08
Speaker 1: Became natural, it was natural. She'd actually didn't go into
34:11
Speaker 1: the studio with me besides feel like maybe it's a
34:14
Speaker 1: kid a baby once in a while. She didn't go
34:16
Speaker 1: into the studio with me until she was sixteen, and
34:19
Speaker 1: she discovered she loved it. So yeah, And you know you.
34:22
Speaker 7: Have reinvantage yourself a bunch of times across a bunch
34:25
Speaker 7: of different albums. So what makes you want to explore
34:27
Speaker 7: new sounds and themes in new creative directions besides your daughter?
34:31
Speaker 4: What makes you want to do?
34:32
Speaker 1: Oh me, Oh, I'm a curious mind. I just have
34:34
Speaker 1: a curious mind. I mean I have an entire album
34:36
Speaker 1: in Spanish I put out in two thousand and nine.
34:39
Speaker 1: My parents are Portuguese from the Azores Islands, and I
34:42
Speaker 1: don't know, I just grew up with a lot of
34:44
Speaker 1: eclectic music. I was in the Portuguese marching band, like
34:46
Speaker 1: my grandfather was a marching band composer. I you know,
34:50
Speaker 1: would just hang out and record dance music with my
34:55
Speaker 1: DJ friends or more like hip hop with my friends
35:00
Speaker 1: that had hip hop groups or whatnot over the years.
35:02
Speaker 1: So I don't think I see music in terms of genre,
35:06
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I see it as a language.
35:09
Speaker 1: So that's really what inspired because I think more than anything,
35:12
Speaker 1: I like people. I like people, So that's what the
35:18
Speaker 1: curiosity is like. On Save your Breath. Actually that artist
35:22
Speaker 1: is from Haiti. Will Anne Wanta wait. She's my friend,
35:25
Speaker 1: my collaborator's mother, and she's actually a TikTok star. She's
35:29
Speaker 1: a motivational uh, she has a motivational sort of TikTok
35:33
Speaker 1: she does, and she's a great art she's probably fifty five,
35:35
Speaker 1: I think she is. And then my friend's mother, Taboris,
35:38
Speaker 1: she's she's seventy seven. She's on that record too. She
35:40
Speaker 1: used to sing with Rick James. Wow. Yeah. And then
35:43
Speaker 1: Tainomi Banks, she's a very successful drag queen and a
35:46
Speaker 1: good friend of mine is on there too. Because it's
35:49
Speaker 1: and that's why I say this is a community recording,
35:52
Speaker 1: because it's just I love bringing people together.
35:55
Speaker 7: Did you ask her about Rick James and you'd be like, Hey,
35:57
Speaker 7: what else Chappelle episode drill?
35:59
Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds colorful, Yes, it sounds it
36:04
Speaker 1: sounds colorful, but but but yeah, we geez. I just
36:10
Speaker 1: I love that you asked me that, because I think
36:12
Speaker 1: I just know about having an interest in like eclectic,
36:18
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm interested in so many sounds of
36:21
Speaker 1: music and why like why, what's the reason? And I
36:24
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, I have a
36:25
Speaker 1: curious mind and I just want to challenge myself all
36:27
Speaker 1: the time. I going to get bored very easily, and
36:29
Speaker 1: I just want to check. I got a song with
36:31
Speaker 1: Andre and the game. You know, it's like there's no thread,
36:36
Speaker 1: you know.
36:38
Speaker 6: I was going to ask when you see other artists
36:40
Speaker 6: like kind of getting like bashed for doing that, being
36:43
Speaker 6: able to switch in and out of genres and different
36:44
Speaker 6: types of music, how do you feel about that because
36:47
Speaker 6: you've done it very well and it's been accepted across
36:49
Speaker 6: very different genres and ethnicities, Like, how does.
36:52
Speaker 1: That mean that? Yeah? I feel you on that. I
36:54
Speaker 1: guess I think. I mean I get the same thing too,
36:57
Speaker 1: because people don't understand I'm hard to market. It's hard
36:59
Speaker 1: to market my music because I'm not a brand.
37:02
Speaker 5: You think you get that. I feel like people are accepted.
37:05
Speaker 1: Like what brand am? I?
37:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've always what's the aesthetic?
37:08
Speaker 1: I have no clue.
37:10
Speaker 7: I think Nelli for Tole is just Nelly Fortado, like
37:12
Speaker 7: like you're one of those people like like Nellie Fordo
37:15
Speaker 7: put out an album. I'm listening. I got introduced to you.
37:17
Speaker 7: I knew about the Wheelly album, but I really got
37:18
Speaker 7: introduced to you when you started working with Timblin. Okay,
37:21
Speaker 7: but so from that moment on, it seems like I'm
37:23
Speaker 7: always checking for Nelly for Toato just because of the
37:25
Speaker 7: connection with timbling. That's my personal experience with you.
37:27
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, there's always different avenues for people to come.
37:31
Speaker 6: You feel like you got back, you feel like you
37:33
Speaker 6: you didn't get accepted in certain genres and stuff like you.
37:36
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. I'm just gonna say that.
37:39
Speaker 1: I think every artist, when they try to change their
37:41
Speaker 1: standard style, you'll definitely get Like, for instance, right, my
37:45
Speaker 1: second album was called Folklore, and you know, when I
37:48
Speaker 1: first came out, my image was on Wonelly was They're like, oh, look,
37:52
Speaker 1: she's like a clectic but like she's Portuguese, but she
37:54
Speaker 1: has a little bit of hip hop influence. She has
37:56
Speaker 1: this and that. So it's sort of like, oh wow,
37:58
Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, look at the fun ethnic
38:04
Speaker 1: girl do fun music, you know what I mean. And
38:06
Speaker 1: then when I came to Vocalore, it was a little
38:08
Speaker 1: more like emo and singer songwriter. So it was like, oh,
38:11
Speaker 1: I don't get it. You know, why is she sad?
38:15
Speaker 8: Film me.
38:19
Speaker 4: Like, you're not allowed to be sad?
38:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, said, you really messed with it and it's your
38:24
Speaker 1: favorite album ever Vocalore.
38:26
Speaker 7: You know, I feel like that's what artists should do.
38:29
Speaker 7: I don't like when artists stayed just consistent on one thing.
38:32
Speaker 7: The reason I love Kendrick Lamar because good King mad
38:34
Speaker 7: City sounds totally different than the Butterfly him. Butterfly sounds
38:37
Speaker 7: totally different than Damn. Damn sounds totally different than you know,
38:39
Speaker 7: mister Morale and the Big Steps.
38:40
Speaker 4: I love that.
38:41
Speaker 2: But it's also the influences, right, her influences a daylight soul,
38:44
Speaker 2: but also Madonna, Like they go from so many different ranges.
38:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do. Yeah, I grew up on kind
38:51
Speaker 1: of eighties two like you know, like I like, like
38:53
Speaker 1: my my dad had like a record player in the
38:55
Speaker 1: living room, so I was listening to also like Abba
38:58
Speaker 1: or Lionel Richie or like every thing just meshed together.
39:01
Speaker 1: And then I will say being fourteen or fifteen in
39:04
Speaker 1: the late nineties was a gift, amazing time, the best
39:08
Speaker 1: and urban like it gave me. I got goosebumps again.
39:10
Speaker 1: I got goosebumps twice on the show today. So like,
39:14
Speaker 1: I'm just lucky, you know that I got to grow
39:17
Speaker 1: up with the influences I had. But I think artists
39:20
Speaker 1: should take more risks I love when artists because what
39:22
Speaker 1: people don't realize is like they're just kind of like,
39:25
Speaker 1: you got to deconstruct to construct again, how are you
39:27
Speaker 1: gonna like grow or get better if you don't deconstruct, Right,
39:30
Speaker 1: It's like anything like a garden, right, a garden like
39:32
Speaker 1: the flowers wilt in the winter.
39:35
Speaker 2: But when you do an album or you step outside
39:37
Speaker 2: of the box quote unquote box and you don't get recognized,
39:39
Speaker 2: how does that feel like? And the reason we say
39:40
Speaker 2: that as you know, everybody's been talking about Beyonce who
39:42
Speaker 2: did the country album and not nominated. So how would
39:45
Speaker 2: that make you feel as an artist? You put this
39:47
Speaker 2: album out, was number one on the charge, your record
39:49
Speaker 2: was spinning number one. Yeah, but they don't that genre
39:51
Speaker 2: doesn't recognize you.
39:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, jeez, I think that. Hmmm, that's a good question too.
39:59
Speaker 1: How do I feel I had an answer? You're going in.
40:04
Speaker 4: You're not in your field.
40:07
Speaker 1: I tend to do that interviews. I talked really fast. Yeah,
40:17
Speaker 1: I'm going through the like. I mean, I got lucky
40:19
Speaker 1: with a Spanish album, probably because I had a history.
40:22
Speaker 1: I had done a song with one, I'd done a
40:25
Speaker 1: song with I had, I had done some stuff. You
40:28
Speaker 1: know in Spanish. And then by the time that that
40:34
Speaker 1: album came around, I spent a lot of time curating it,
40:37
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I work very closely
40:39
Speaker 1: with my really good friend who an artist andres and
40:43
Speaker 1: and we we we we reached out to the community,
40:46
Speaker 1: got a lot of different voices from Luis Guerra to
40:51
Speaker 1: we even have like album, so we have like a
40:55
Speaker 1: lot of You have to just be mindful, you know
40:59
Speaker 1: what I mean, and do it. Try to do it
41:00
Speaker 1: with as much grace as you can, right would be
41:03
Speaker 1: just like I don't know. For me, I always.
41:13
Speaker 4: Do you remember his original question, no.
41:19
Speaker 5: Girls, you're cute.
41:20
Speaker 6: You look so good answering it, though he took the
41:24
Speaker 6: look it's okay, Yes, it's a.
41:26
Speaker 8: Look being accepted question outside outside the box.
41:42
Speaker 6: It was too much going on in the beginning of
41:43
Speaker 6: it anyway, and he took a long time to ask it.
41:45
Speaker 5: I think you drifted off and we were here for
41:47
Speaker 5: you know, we were here for you.
41:49
Speaker 1: It's the peak artistry when you can shift the cultural needle,
41:52
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and politically, like that's incredible,
41:56
Speaker 1: Like the respect is huge. And I also was lucky
41:59
Speaker 1: enough to kind of come up. Well, no, Destiny Child
42:01
Speaker 1: was already out. But like you know, I'd crossed paths
42:03
Speaker 1: with Beyonce a couple of times briefly, and I love
42:06
Speaker 1: her obviously, her energy and her light, and I think
42:09
Speaker 1: that that is like the peak of what you could
42:13
Speaker 1: do achieve as an artist is do something like that.
42:16
Speaker 1: That's absolutely peak. You know how you feel, So being
42:21
Speaker 1: accepted doesn't really matter at all.
42:23
Speaker 6: You know what, I'll tell you this, you got it,
42:25
Speaker 6: you entered it, because there.
42:29
Speaker 1: Are sometimes sometimes that girl, there are some sometimes there
42:34
Speaker 1: are songs where you might think no one was listening,
42:37
Speaker 1: no one was paying attention. But I'm telling you, like
42:39
Speaker 1: years later, a DJ might remix it. Yeah, this happened
42:42
Speaker 1: to a song I put out. Ronnie Jerkins produced it.
42:44
Speaker 1: It's called Big Coops super cool track. You know. I
42:46
Speaker 1: put it out, yeah, twenty thirteen. It's on a Spirit
42:49
Speaker 1: Indestructible album. I did Jammy like literally, if you played
42:53
Speaker 1: it right now, I'd be like see, but like it
42:56
Speaker 1: was fine, you know, it didn't really make any waves
42:58
Speaker 1: or anything. But ten years later, I know these DJs
43:00
Speaker 1: from the UK they remixed it and it was top forty.
43:05
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I played in my shows,
43:07
Speaker 1: and I'm like, see, reel recognizes real. At the end
43:10
Speaker 1: of the day, someone will find it. The same happened
43:11
Speaker 1: with my track Powerless, which was successful in certain places
43:14
Speaker 1: but not globally. Years later, I'm you know, I'm you know,
43:20
Speaker 1: halfway across the world, and you know, I'm out of school.
43:24
Speaker 1: I was doing some some nonprofit working and teaching girls
43:29
Speaker 1: songwriting and things like that, and they say to me, wait, wow,
43:33
Speaker 1: that's the one we want to sing. That's our theme
43:35
Speaker 1: song for this school. You know what I mean all
43:37
Speaker 1: the way Kenya, you know, And I go, see, that's why,
43:41
Speaker 1: that's why I make this. You know. It's like eventually,
43:44
Speaker 1: like if you write a song from your heart, somebody's
43:47
Speaker 1: gonna find it someday. Even this new stuff, I'm putting
43:49
Speaker 1: it out tomorrow. It's like I go away for a
43:52
Speaker 1: long time. You know. I don't have like that type
43:55
Speaker 1: of cycle in my albums where my fans are like
43:57
Speaker 1: right there with me, and it's like I treat it
43:59
Speaker 1: kind of differ, so like I don't know who the
44:01
Speaker 1: music will get to or win or half fast, but
44:03
Speaker 1: I do know that whoever does listen to it, you
44:06
Speaker 1: know what I mean, eventually it'll get its own love or.
44:09
Speaker 6: Whatever, you know, whatever, because the pressure isn't there as much.
44:13
Speaker 6: You know what, you know, you're good with what happens,
44:15
Speaker 6: and you know, to grow you did.
44:17
Speaker 1: I appreciate the little things like my record with Dom Dalla,
44:21
Speaker 1: really amazing tech house DJ. It's called Eat Your Man.
44:23
Speaker 1: It just went gold in Canada and we didn't expect it.
44:25
Speaker 1: It was again, oh, let's make a club recker for
44:27
Speaker 1: the rapes. You know, we've since performed it at Lolla, Palooza, Coachella,
44:31
Speaker 1: like it's like it's a proper like you know, it's
44:34
Speaker 1: in the dance canon now so much. My friend wrote
44:38
Speaker 1: that with me. She's like, you should reference yourself, My
44:40
Speaker 1: really good friend Angelie from another great writer from Toronto,
44:43
Speaker 1: and she's like why not. And so it would take
44:45
Speaker 1: like a friend to convince you to reference yourself. You know,
44:48
Speaker 1: you're not going to do that on your own. Not me,
44:52
Speaker 1: that's not my personality. But I was like sure, like
44:54
Speaker 1: that's cute, Like I love remix culture. I think the idea,
44:57
Speaker 1: like it's it's very meta, you know, very very unique. Actually, yeah,
45:00
Speaker 1: I liked it.
45:01
Speaker 6: You know, you did a four million, four point four
45:04
Speaker 6: million views for your Tiny Desk. So I think people
45:07
Speaker 6: love good what Yeah, that's great people, But it's the
45:10
Speaker 6: live performance Nelly that people love. And I know that
45:12
Speaker 6: you've talked a little bit sometimes about Vegas.
45:16
Speaker 5: Oh is that something that you would do? Is that
45:17
Speaker 5: coming in cooking up lately?
45:19
Speaker 1: Yeah? I really love the culture around Loose as an
45:23
Speaker 1: album and the culture around like Timberland and ized connection
45:26
Speaker 1: and just like the idea of it's a very it's
45:28
Speaker 1: a very clear picture. It's those late nights in Miami.
45:30
Speaker 1: It's at like those palm trees and the red and
45:32
Speaker 1: white cover and the whole I met somebody recently there
45:35
Speaker 1: was a whole club night called Loose and I couldn't
45:38
Speaker 1: believe it. It was like, no, this is the hottest party.
45:40
Speaker 1: It's called Loose. And I was like, Oh, that's crazy,
45:43
Speaker 1: because I want to do a Vegas show called Loose,
45:45
Speaker 1: And it all made sense. Like I just think Vegas
45:47
Speaker 1: would be the great outlet for recreating Loose in a
45:52
Speaker 1: cool environment and being creative with it. Of course, ultimately
45:57
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be on my bucket list.
45:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, no deals of coming away with that, because this
46:02
Speaker 6: is not your first time mentioning it. They haven't grasped
46:03
Speaker 6: that yet, Like they haven't.
46:04
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's in the works. Yeah, it's a
46:08
Speaker 1: it's a it's a bubbling.
46:10
Speaker 7: Oh nope, So yeah, okay, yeah when next year twenty
46:13
Speaker 7: twenty five.
46:14
Speaker 1: Uh, that remains to be saying, because the twenty fifth
46:17
Speaker 1: Loose will be twenty five years old in twenty twenty
46:20
Speaker 1: five or I'm sorry, twenty twenty six.
46:22
Speaker 4: You really a legacy artist now, netlie for talking.
46:24
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.
46:27
Speaker 4: They don't feel like twenty five years but got time flying?
46:30
Speaker 1: I know.
46:31
Speaker 4: What do you think about social media right?
46:33
Speaker 7: Like, like, like how do you view its impact on
46:36
Speaker 7: artists in their relationship with fans compared to when you
46:38
Speaker 7: first started your career because it's like a real direct
46:41
Speaker 7: connection and it was so.
46:42
Speaker 1: Many I like social media. I don't know, I like
46:45
Speaker 1: it vibes with my mind, Like I really like TikTok.
46:47
Speaker 1: I love it. It's so immediate. I love you know,
46:50
Speaker 1: DMan like DJ's are they DM me? And like can
46:52
Speaker 1: they do this remix or artists? And it's so it's
46:55
Speaker 1: so direct, it's so instantaneous, and I do like that
46:58
Speaker 1: about it.
47:00
Speaker 3: So you answer your d ms and everything, some of them.
47:06
Speaker 1: Hey at Nellie Bertando. Yeah, so I think social media
47:14
Speaker 1: is actually pretty amazing when it comes to music business stuff.
47:19
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't always love when I
47:23
Speaker 1: thought I knew a song, but then I hear the
47:24
Speaker 1: whole song and it's totally different, you know, like that
47:27
Speaker 1: TikTok sound. You're like, yeah, this song's actually really good
47:30
Speaker 1: when I made the whole song, you know. But I
47:32
Speaker 1: mean whatever, I can deal with that too. It's fun,
47:34
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all fun.
47:35
Speaker 7: How do you balance the vulnerability that's required, No, not
47:39
Speaker 7: just in songwriting but nowadays just at the talent period
47:42
Speaker 7: because people want so much you have vulnerability, right, How
47:45
Speaker 7: do you balance being vulnerable but also having boundaries and
47:48
Speaker 7: your process?
47:49
Speaker 1: Such a tough one, man, that's a tough one because
47:55
Speaker 1: my songs are so personal. They're almost like sometimes I
47:58
Speaker 1: only just draining blood from my heart into the song actually,
48:03
Speaker 1: so so it's like they're really personal som some songs
48:08
Speaker 1: are more personal than others. But that's hard because if
48:11
Speaker 1: people ask me about it, like you don't want to
48:12
Speaker 1: necessarily go into detail, I'll be more like, well, you'd
48:15
Speaker 1: listen to the song and you feel what makes you feel.
48:17
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, You're not going to detail
48:19
Speaker 6: because it like rehash is that pulling blood situation where
48:22
Speaker 6: it's like you.
48:23
Speaker 1: Don't want to be sad, you don't want to just
48:24
Speaker 1: be like just negative. I like to kind of like
48:26
Speaker 1: stick in the positive energy, you know what I mean.
48:28
Speaker 1: I find like it's more tracked attract it's more magnetic,
48:31
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like because I think I've
48:33
Speaker 1: been caught out there before in the past, over the years,
48:35
Speaker 1: you know whatever, careers highs and lows where you kind
48:38
Speaker 1: of like you focus like you're too like you get
48:40
Speaker 1: too caught up in the wrong things or like the
48:42
Speaker 1: wrong way to express yourself, or like you're not you
48:44
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you got to focus on
48:46
Speaker 1: the positive and they just keep that joyful energy. I
48:48
Speaker 1: think that's important.
48:49
Speaker 4: That makes all the sense in the world.
48:50
Speaker 1: Serious.
48:52
Speaker 7: What if you come in the studio you're positive, but
48:53
Speaker 7: then somebody brings up one of your songs that might
48:56
Speaker 7: trigger you still, but it's your song, So.
49:01
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question too. Oh yeah, that'll be interesting.
49:07
Speaker 1: I think I'll just start that journey tomorrow when the
49:08
Speaker 1: album comes out, because yeah, I'm gonna get asked, they're
49:11
Speaker 1: gonna ask me whether it's a fan or you know,
49:16
Speaker 1: you know, I got to pick and choose what I
49:17
Speaker 1: want to talk about.
49:17
Speaker 2: I think whose idea was it to go more urban
49:19
Speaker 2: and hip hops? Because you know, no, no, no, just
49:22
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Because your influences have been daylight. So
49:25
Speaker 2: you talk about you know, Timberland, you talk about it.
49:28
Speaker 2: But now it's like you're doing more of that, You're
49:30
Speaker 2: doing more interviews, you're doing more. Why is that it
49:32
Speaker 2: is because it is an influential thing or you think
49:34
Speaker 2: that some of your records have crossed over before.
49:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I always felt like the Black career,
49:43
Speaker 1: it's been natural, you know what I mean, It's been
49:46
Speaker 1: a natural thing. It's just like people, you know, you
49:50
Speaker 1: don't chase anything, you know what I mean. My manager
49:52
Speaker 1: always would say that, you know, you let people come
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Speaker 1: to you, you know, and it's like and that's organic,
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Speaker 1: you know, and so that's it, you know, just like
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Speaker 1: whatever energy comes my way, people want.
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Speaker 5: To work with me.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's true. Yeah, early in my career, yeah,
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of urban artists wanted to
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Speaker 1: work with me, you know what I mean, And it
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Speaker 1: was just natural. It wasn't something I sought out, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was just organic. You know. It's kind of what I.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think don't recognize it, do you know what
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Speaker 4: I mean? Like there's certain.
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Speaker 7: People you can smell it on and you'd be like, Okay,
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Speaker 7: that's not authentic. But like I think, like you, Amy
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Speaker 7: Winehouse like to me, y'all, y'all got the right.
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Speaker 1: Energy, thank you, because I don't take that lightly, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, well, no, I also
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Speaker 1: feel I feel just privileged to be making music. You
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Speaker 1: know obviously is that were the influences, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, the history just like I'm just I'm just
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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be sort of like accepted, I
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Speaker 1: guess by a lot of different genres, right, even Latin
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Speaker 1: like manage music. It's like my parents are Portuguese. But
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Speaker 1: if you do it with sincerity, you know, and you're
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Speaker 1: coming from a place of learning and sincerity, it's like
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Speaker 1: no one can fault you for that, right and if
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Speaker 1: you try to do it well right, and that's because
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Speaker 1: I'll feel like I'm just still that person that just
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Speaker 1: really believes music is the only kind of proof of
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Speaker 1: life and proof of God in terms of people. You
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Speaker 1: could get together people that don't even like each other.
51:29
Speaker 1: I've experimented with that before in a art like an
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Speaker 1: art setting not too far at moment PS One. I
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Speaker 1: was invited to just at the fundraiser, to own a
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Speaker 1: room and do whatever art performance art I wanted to do.
51:41
Speaker 1: And I chose to teach people how to write songs.
51:43
Speaker 1: But a bunch of people would just come in the room,
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Speaker 1: and some of them weren't songwriters, and we would just
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Speaker 1: make a song out of thin air together. And to me,
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Speaker 1: it was asking the question like, why do you feel
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Speaker 1: connected to somebody you walk by on the sidewalk? You
51:54
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Why do you feel connected to
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Speaker 1: stranger you walk by?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 5: What is that?
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Speaker 1: It's a collective, you know, the collective unconscious and so
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Speaker 1: music is proof of that, man, it's proof of that.
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Speaker 4: You know, seven is God's number and seven is God.
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Speaker 4: Seven is God's number. Yes, I didn't know that. Tell
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Speaker 4: me more about that seven is God's number.
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Speaker 5: I'm about to google.
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Speaker 4: Don't warry seven gods number. I do have one last
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Speaker 4: question leaving.
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Speaker 5: I have the answer to the second answer the question.
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Speaker 5: It is It's in the.
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Speaker 6: Bible, the number seven is quite significant in the Bible,
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Speaker 6: appearing over seven hundred times throughout both the Old and
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Speaker 6: the New Testaments, and biblical numerology, seven symbolizes completion or perfection.
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Speaker 6: It is said that God created the world in six
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Speaker 6: days and rested on the seventh.
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Speaker 4: Day, completion and profecs.
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Speaker 6: My grandma would have been mad. I had to google
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Speaker 6: that because I knew that good Angel numbers two, seven, seven,
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Speaker 6: eleven as well eleven, like number, yes, seven, eleven, I love.
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Speaker 3: I mean the number is not the store. That's not
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Speaker 3: the store.
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Speaker 6: Eleven is my favorite number, eleven and twenty two just
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Speaker 6: because they're like, I.
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Speaker 1: Like three, Like, do you know your life path number?
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of into life path numbers.
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Speaker 3: Is my favorite three my life three.
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Speaker 1: Do you know that your life path number? No, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna count your Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm just gonna tell you look the paper, like,
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Speaker 5: what's the last question?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 7: Who is Nellie Fortarto right now?
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Speaker 1: I'm a work in progress. Yeah, I'm just a working progress.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like taking it day by day, just kind
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Speaker 1: of trying to like just accept myself and love myself
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Speaker 1: as much as I can and and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: not take my craft for granted, and my talents for granted,
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Speaker 1: and just be.
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Speaker 7: Grateful so you'll be back. This isn't a one and done,
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Speaker 7: Like you're not gonna go back.
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Speaker 1: Trust me.
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Speaker 8: Your sign?
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Speaker 1: We still don't trust me.
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Speaker 5: Pardon what's your son?
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Speaker 1: Sagittarius? I was gonna call the album sagittariusious? Really, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not twenty second twenty second you're just barely as.
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Speaker 5: I yeah, because they think I'm crazy when I say that, though.
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Speaker 1: But no, that's there's still Sagittarius definitely. So yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: who I am right now. I'm just like taking it
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Speaker 1: day by day and figuring it out, trying to accept
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Speaker 1: my flaws. But then I think the key too is
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Speaker 1: like accept my light as well. We have to accept
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Speaker 1: the light we have and just like and that's a
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Speaker 1: that's a lifelong journey.
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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of life. It is a journey. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: you should just appreciate and respect the process.
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Speaker 3: And we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
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Speaker 1: You're really amazing. I got four times and.
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Speaker 5: You were nervous when you came in here or something.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad, yep, I'm sorry because I Kendrick uld Drake
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Speaker 2: pick one, but we didn't, So.
54:45
Speaker 1: The weekend.
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Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
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Speaker 3: in the morning.
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Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club