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Get Rich or Get Replaced: The AI Wake-Up Call · Money And Wealth With John Hope Bryant

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money and Wealth with John O'Briant, a production
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Hey is John O'Briant.
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  Speaker 3: We're on the move.
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  Speaker 1: And today is one of those special episodes where I
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  Speaker 1: bring a guest on. As you know if you've been
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  Speaker 1: following me, oftentimes I just spend an hour forty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes for an hour pouring into you myself on a
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  Speaker 1: topic that I believe that I have proficiency in. I
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  Speaker 1: bring guests on. When two plus two equals six, eight
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  Speaker 1: or ten, when the relationship is defined is better together.
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  Speaker 1: It's multiplication, not just addition. I'm Michael Milkin, an ambassador,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew J. Young, a Bishop TD Jakes, someone who's top
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  Speaker 1: of the mark Tony Wrestler's coming, who owns a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hawks and built so many companies, and today is
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  Speaker 1: one of those days. I have my brother from another mother,
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  Speaker 1: my dear friend, an underrated genius, Van Jones, who you
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  Speaker 1: probably know as a global CNN commentator, co host and journalists.
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  Speaker 1: You know him politically, you know him from wherever you
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  Speaker 1: know him from. I know him slightly differently. Break this
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  Speaker 1: down as we talk about and by the way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: honored to introduce him today also as the co chair
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  Speaker 1: with me for Hope AI, which will give you some
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  Speaker 1: sense of what this conversation is about today. So honored
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  Speaker 1: to have Van as my co chair of Hope AI.
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  Speaker 1: And to tell your intentional this is my coach chair
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  Speaker 1: for Financial Literacy for All was Doug mc millan, the
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  Speaker 1: CEO of Walmart and is now the CEO of Delta
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  Speaker 1: Airlines ed Bashan for twenty twenty six. My co chair
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  Speaker 1: for the AI Ethics Council is Sam Alkman, and so
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  Speaker 1: I'm honored to have the co chair of the Future
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  Speaker 1: of AI with Van Jones. Here's what you don't know
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  Speaker 1: about Van. Undergraduate degree the University of Tennessee. There we
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  Speaker 1: go a bachelor's degree in communications and political science. From there,
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  Speaker 1: law degrees law school, Yale Law School. Did you know
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  Speaker 1: that a juris doctorate a jd. And I believe you
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  Speaker 1: also went to MIT, is that right?
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  Speaker 4: A fellow at MIT, professor and a fellow at Princeton.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of little places like that that I don't
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  Speaker 4: talk about a lot because I got my best education
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  Speaker 4: from Willie Jones and Levetta Jones and Little Jackson, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 4: where I grew up.
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  Speaker 3: Man, let's get into this.
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  Speaker 1: Man, By the way, is there anything else that the
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  Speaker 1: audience would uh not know that's not obvious that we
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  Speaker 1: should share for context for this conversation. As far as
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  Speaker 1: your background, your focus, where you're spending your time, your intellect,
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  Speaker 1: I know you spent a lot of time reading and
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  Speaker 1: studying the world.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I mean I think a lot of times people
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  Speaker 4: think I was born on the set of CNN.
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  Speaker 2: Right next to the eds of Just.
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  Speaker 3: Happen.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been gross bhoom exactly. Now that'll be
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  Speaker 4: a long before. You know, I've been on TV for
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  Speaker 4: about fourteen years. But you know before that, I was
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  Speaker 4: mainly focused on you know, black stuff tough.
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  Speaker 2: Can you unit?
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  Speaker 4: These constituencies built the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights,
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  Speaker 4: colorf Change, dot Org, A Reform Alliance, Green for All,
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  Speaker 4: and other organizations trying to get black folk out of
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  Speaker 4: jail into jobs. That's been my fundamental kind of commitment.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm very proud to have gotten legislation passed signed
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  Speaker 4: by George W. Bush and Donald Trump, but also got
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  Speaker 4: a chance to work for Barack Obama in the White
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  Speaker 4: House and and.
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  Speaker 1: Work for it is another first. He was the first
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  Speaker 1: environmental advisor to any president United States of America in
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  Speaker 1: the history of this country. Work it was an advisor
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  Speaker 1: to president of Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 3: Was that right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the first, the first clean energy uh green jobs
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  Speaker 4: advisor ever. And and the legislation that I got a
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  Speaker 4: chance to help implement when I was at the White
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  Speaker 4: House level, actually was the main advocate for when I
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  Speaker 4: got George W. Bush's signing. So I I really have
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  Speaker 4: fought my whole life to try to figure out what
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  Speaker 4: is the black future. How can we get black communities
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  Speaker 4: and other underrepresented, underestimated communities the hope and help that
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  Speaker 4: we need to be able to not be victims but
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  Speaker 4: to actually be architects of the future. That's been my
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  Speaker 4: main thing. So that's why I focused on solar energy
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  Speaker 4: and that revolution. That's why I focused on alternatives to
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  Speaker 4: incarcerations so we don't lose so much black genius to
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  Speaker 4: jail celles. And you know, I got a chance to
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  Speaker 4: work with Prince for six years, helped him with his philanthropy.
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  Speaker 2: He backed me.
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  Speaker 4: On Yes We Code, and that's really where I want
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  Speaker 4: to kind of start if I can, John, because Reverend
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  Speaker 4: Jackson passing away to me has been a life changing
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  Speaker 4: event because he was a person who opened up doors
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  Speaker 4: for me in Silicon Valley back in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, when Silicon Valley was a completely black box.
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  Speaker 4: We had no idea where the technology companies hiring any
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  Speaker 4: African Americans, we were being promoted. It was completely a
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  Speaker 4: black box. And it was Reverend Jackson who bought some
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  Speaker 4: shares in some of these companies and went to those
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  Speaker 4: shareholder meetings and encouraged them to open up the books.
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  Speaker 4: And it turned out that African Americans were woefully underrepresented
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  Speaker 4: in Silicon Valley, and so Prince and I launched a
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  Speaker 4: campaign called Yes We Code, Now Yes we Can, Yes
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  Speaker 4: We Code to begin to try to get more opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: And we were working with.
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  Speaker 4: Facebook, Meta Now and other groups, and I saw things,
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  Speaker 4: and then also being a fellow at MIT for two years,
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  Speaker 4: I learned a lot about technology, and I learned a
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  Speaker 4: lot about how technology is going to determine a lot
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  Speaker 4: about the future and the importers of us being present.
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  Speaker 1: Before a fan goes any further, and I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 1: what I don't do a lot. I'm gonna shut up
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  Speaker 1: this whole podcast let him talk because I think he's
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  Speaker 1: that brilliant.
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  Speaker 3: I want to say something to the audience. We've got to.
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  Speaker 1: Stop being offended and start being affected and being effective.
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  Speaker 1: Stop being offended, stop getting your feelings hurt right, stop
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  Speaker 1: being obsessed with with how somebody's saying something, and figure
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  Speaker 1: about what they're saying and what's the meaning behind what
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  Speaker 1: they're saying and seeing if you can, let's just stop
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  Speaker 1: stepping over mess not in it. Van is working to
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  Speaker 1: I mean net net to advance all people with an
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  Speaker 1: emphasis on our people.
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  Speaker 2: And what he's.
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  Speaker 3: Done around criminal justice reform.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about some of the folks he's worked with,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, somebody asked me before are you going
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  Speaker 1: to go to president go to dinner with President Bush
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  Speaker 1: and President Clinton? Like, Well, Yeah, I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: dinner at President Bush because I respect him. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go to dinner with President Clinton because I like him.
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  Speaker 1: Actually like President Bush now too, but I'm still going
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  Speaker 1: to dinner.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's really interesting. We love President Bush.
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  Speaker 2: Today we.
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  Speaker 3: Called him the devil please come back.
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  Speaker 2: You know how good we had it back in those days.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I appreciate capitalists. They called me a republic's twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago. I understand what I was doing. Then, what
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  Speaker 1: I was doing they called me up kind of names.
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  Speaker 1: And now now you know, I mean whatever I mean.
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  Speaker 1: All that stuff is falling away, and I stay focused
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  Speaker 1: on this mission of making capitalists work for all of
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  Speaker 1: God's children and bringing people and dragging people in the
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  Speaker 1: future and talking to people straight. And I just want
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  Speaker 1: people to to to to go to the DNA, go
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  Speaker 1: to the Cora van Jones and say is that the truth?
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  Speaker 1: Is what he's saying accurate, is what he's doing important?
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  Speaker 1: And you're about to hear an example of that in
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  Speaker 1: this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And he's he's working in areas where most of us
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  Speaker 1: are not working with people, most of us don't have
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  Speaker 1: access to I only nobody else got one hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars from a tech a tech billionaire to do as
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  Speaker 1: he likes, which is what he got from. There's another
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  Speaker 1: thing knowing is from Jeff Bezos and Amazon. Jeff didn't
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  Speaker 1: give a hundred bion dollars. He had nothing else to do,
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  Speaker 1: and he did it because he thought he thought Van
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  Speaker 1: was the most effective dude. Uh he'd met. And the
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  Speaker 1: story goes on and on and on. Get to know
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  Speaker 1: this guy as a person and as a as a
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  Speaker 1: and as a mentalist and as a and as a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant thinker.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then let's figure out whether we can benefit from
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  Speaker 1: what he's saying and what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Because I sure am over to you, Van Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Who I love well, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: And what I would just say to anybody's like, I know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not everybody's cup of tea, and that's perfectly fine
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  Speaker 4: with me, Like I am.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, but anyway, go.
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  Speaker 4: Ahead, but I just just say, like, my soul is
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  Speaker 4: rested because I've been so blessed. You know, my father
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  Speaker 4: was born in a shotgun shack in Memphis, Tennessee, or
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  Speaker 4: on Cable Street in Orange Mound, Memphis. Anybody knows anything
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  Speaker 4: about Tennessee, knows what I said. At Orange Mound, that
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  Speaker 4: was the toughest, roughest black neighborhood. And he came out
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  Speaker 4: of there and joined the military and put himself through
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  Speaker 4: college and married a college president's daughter, my mother, and
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  Speaker 4: put his brother through college and a cousin through college,
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  Speaker 4: and me and my twin sister through college. And when
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  Speaker 4: he died, the picture they put on the funeral program
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  Speaker 4: was my father standing in front of Yale Law School
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  Speaker 4: with his arms in the air, saying, look look at
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  Speaker 4: what we've done.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know my father was pleased with me.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have that, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know that's enough. You know somebody loved your mother, your grandmother,
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  Speaker 4: whoever was that. If you can look at those people
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  Speaker 4: who saw you when you were little and were struggling,
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  Speaker 4: if they're pleased with you, then the world you know best.
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  Speaker 4: As a number two vote.
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  Speaker 3: Amen, I've been.
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  Speaker 4: Black, folks. I mean sometimes we don't think it all
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  Speaker 4: the way through. People fought hard for me John to
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  Speaker 4: be able to go to the University of Tennessee at
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  Speaker 4: Martin on a minority scholarship. I never met those people,
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  Speaker 4: but somebody had to have an argument a fight to say, listen,
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  Speaker 4: these public schools in Tennessee are still almost all white.
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  Speaker 4: And somebody fought and they said, we got to put
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  Speaker 4: a minority scholarship program together at the University of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: They fought for me to be able to get that,
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  Speaker 4: and I got it. Somebody at Yale Law School fought
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  Speaker 4: to say, listen, ten thousand kids apply to Yale Law School.
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  Speaker 4: We only let it in one hundred and twenty. So if
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  Speaker 4: we can find a kid that's got an outstanding LSAT
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  Speaker 4: scored nineties percentile as a black kid from the rural
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  Speaker 4: south of the state school, we need to let that
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  Speaker 4: kid have a chance. I know that was the person
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  Speaker 4: was they fought for me. I took advantage of that,
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  Speaker 4: and on down the line, people were fighting open doors
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  Speaker 4: for kids like me. I was born in sixty eight,
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  Speaker 4: the same year they killed doctor King. But what we
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  Speaker 4: have to think about is if you fought for me
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  Speaker 4: to get into Yale and into Princeton and into MIT,
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  Speaker 4: when I come back, I might be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You can't fight to get kids like me into all
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  Speaker 4: these institutions and expect us to come home exactly the same.
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  Speaker 4: So I need some mercy and some grace for my
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  Speaker 4: people to say, if you wanted me to go to
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  Speaker 4: all these places and maybe I see the world a
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  Speaker 4: little bit different, can we make that an advantage for
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  Speaker 4: all of us. Can we add what I learned to
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  Speaker 4: what you learned and what you would you know, and
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  Speaker 4: now we're all smarter together. That's how I want to be.
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  Speaker 4: But what I learned along the way, I do see
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  Speaker 4: things very differently. I know what's coming with the technology.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to guess. I was just at a
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  Speaker 4: conference that Peter Diamanda's convened called the Abundance Conference. To
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  Speaker 4: somebody who's name, everyone should begin to learn because he's
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  Speaker 4: a white guy. Uh. He's been at the center of
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  Speaker 4: this technological revolution externial technology. He's the inventor of the
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  Speaker 4: X Prize. He's written a number of books, including The
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  Speaker 4: Future Is Faster Than You Think. And his conference pulls
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  Speaker 4: together the biggest people in deep tech in the world.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about people who are doing quantum computing, AI, biotech, robotics,
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  Speaker 4: mining as getting ready to mind asteroids in space. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's and it's a small group of people. John, It's
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  Speaker 4: not a whole bunch of people, and they have big brains,
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  Speaker 4: some of them have big hearts, but they they would
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  Speaker 4: admit they're a little bit monochromatic.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a chance to explain what that just what
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  Speaker 1: you just said, a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: The same color. That color is not black, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit white. And so in the green too. They got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money and a lot of green.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm so blessed because Peter Diamandis has opened
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  Speaker 4: his heart and network and say listen, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: want you to see what's happening and give me your reflections,
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  Speaker 4: and we've developed a great friendship. You've been trying to
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  Speaker 4: warn people and alert people that a big change is coming,
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  Speaker 4: and what I want to tell you is the big
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  Speaker 4: change is now here. These guys have been saying the
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  Speaker 4: singularity is coming, and the singularity is this event where
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  Speaker 4: the exponential growth curve of technology goes vertical. And so
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  Speaker 4: so this is the first time I've heard I've known
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  Speaker 4: Peter for a long time, the first time I've heard
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  Speaker 4: him say the singularity is not coming. The singularity is here.
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  Speaker 4: We are now going straight up. And what that means
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  Speaker 4: is you may have noticed every week, every day there's
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  Speaker 4: some new breakthrough in AI capability. That would have been
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  Speaker 4: the news of the decade just three years ago, and
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  Speaker 4: now it's not even the news of a Twitter cycle
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  Speaker 4: because these agents now.
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  Speaker 2: Are so capable. And so what I told Peter, explain.
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  Speaker 1: What an agent is. Please, We're gonna have to We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do some translation. This is a great example, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great example. Normally if some Wall Street got
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  Speaker 1: geek or I've got some some you know, Michael Milker
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  Speaker 1: is some genius on here, I gotta say, slow on,
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  Speaker 1: I need to translate what you're saying here, and I
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  Speaker 1: need to do from PhD to PhD. Brother Van Jones
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  Speaker 1: from the hood d a hypen a, you will do.
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  Speaker 1: Who's now I'm having to translate for him, get him
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  Speaker 1: to to translate and convert what he's saying in real time.
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  Speaker 1: He lives in this other yeah, other worlds, and and
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  Speaker 1: people don't know that they're brilliant, they're really smart people.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know what an AI agent is. They don't
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  Speaker 1: know what Peter did in mind. So we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to stop and walk folks through. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The good thing is that John and I are building
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  Speaker 4: hope AI to make sure that you can understand this
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  Speaker 4: stuff better than any by in the world, and that's coming.
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  Speaker 4: We're building it aggressively. Both of our teams are working
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  Speaker 4: on it. So if some of this stuff sounds a
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  Speaker 4: little bit weird to see it as a as a
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  Speaker 4: trailer for a movie, this is This podcast is a
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  Speaker 4: trailer hope AI is the trilogy that's coming. So just
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  Speaker 4: just relax. I will just back it up a bit
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  Speaker 4: and thank you for I do get ahead of myself.
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  Speaker 3: John, Oh, you're brilliant. I love it, actually, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the way the way I would say it
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  Speaker 4: is that there are seven or eight trillion dollar industries
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  Speaker 4: that are taking off at the same time. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 4: the best the way the phrase phrase it. So robotics
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  Speaker 4: is taking off, biotech is taking off, Quantum is taking off.
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  Speaker 2: AI is taking no long what's quantum? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: So quantum Quantum computing is the next form of computation.
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  Speaker 2: To give you a cent, what's computation? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: So okay, So the way that your computer reasons and
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  Speaker 4: drives through data is based on old physics. There's a
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  Speaker 4: an updated form of physics is quantum physics, and quantum
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  Speaker 4: physics uses something called superposition, which is to take too
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  Speaker 4: long to explain. But the practical effect of it is,
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  Speaker 4: these computers are going to be ten thousand x faster.
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  Speaker 3: Than what you have.
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  Speaker 4: So what does that mean. That means cyber changes instantly.
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  Speaker 4: Your little password that you have protecting your computer. A
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  Speaker 4: normal computer, for trying to break that it might take
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  Speaker 4: a million years. This thing might be able to do it,
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  Speaker 4: break it in that afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just a.
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  Speaker 4: Completely different level of computational power that is almost impossible
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  Speaker 4: to comprehend.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming private.
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  Speaker 3: Let me, audience, me help you out here.
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  Speaker 1: So when when our parents were growing up, computers were
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  Speaker 1: big as a building, yes, one computer, one computer as
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  Speaker 1: big as an office building or a small warehouse. And
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  Speaker 1: then you got it into uh then Bill Gates time
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  Speaker 1: you got it into one room.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then Steve Jobs and others got it uh on
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  Speaker 1: your on your lap too, well, on your laptop. And
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  Speaker 1: now this is a computer. It's on your phone. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's it's all a smartphone. It's a computer. And what
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  Speaker 1: Van Jones is telling you now is that, uh, this
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  Speaker 1: is getting to a point where you have a computer
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  Speaker 1: on the tip of your on the tip of your finger,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and that computer on the tip of your finger will
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: do ten x or in some cases one hundred x.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: The speed and the power and the computation ability, the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: ability to process both con in time of anything you've
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: ever seen, and it's.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Going straight up.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: We're now on the vertical.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: We're on the vertical, and it's happening right now. So again,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we don't have time to be arguing. We don't have
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: time to be disagree with each other. We don't have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: time to be figured out whether you like somebody or not,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: sound like somebody like. The world is moving, whether you
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like it or not. And we need to get on
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: this train and you need to figure out who's next
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to you and decide you there's something about them you like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: because that's your all right, buckle up, and let's go
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: back to you Van Good.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: So you have these trillion dollar industries that are jumping off,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: and on the one hand, it's you know that you
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: don't have a lot of African Americans in particular participating.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, even though it's we're on
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the vertical, the growth is still to come. So there's
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: opportunities to get in, there's opportunities to participate. There's opportunities
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: in the in the necessity again, which I'll get you
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: in a minute. But I think the most important thing
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: that I can say is that there's something called these
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: are all terms that can just look up, called accelerationism.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: All that is is the people who are in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: computer science world and the AI world who want to
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: go as fast as possible, those people who have always
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: said let's go, go, go, go go. At this conference
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: last week, the first time I've heard them say, hold
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: on a second, this is going so fast that now
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: we're getting scared. Never heard that from the accelerationist crowd.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: And they invited me to speak to an important subsection
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: of that gathering of the patrons, the people who write
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: the bigger checks, and just like, what do you see?
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And so I want to tell your audience. I've never
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: i haven't spoked about this publicly at all. I've been
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: waiting to tell your audience. What I told this incredibly
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: select group of billionaires and more who have been driving
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: this thing is they're sitting there looking at these at
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: what these things can do.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, the agents.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Sorry, So when you have chatt that's just it's called
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: a chatbot. It's basically it's just uh, it's basically just
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: predicting the next word. And so even though it seems
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: super brilliant, it's really just a prediction machine mm hmm.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: And it has to It can't do very much except
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: answer your questions like a glorified Google search. It's like
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: a Google search through all of human knowledge. An agent
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: is not that an agent. So now you're going from
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: chat to BT just a Claude. An agent can do stuff,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: So please so explain to people. Claude is just briefly okay.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: So Claude is created by a company called Anthropic.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Uh founder who left uh.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yes so so yes so, Dario's who's someone's a friend
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: of mine?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And and John's left.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Open Ai created Anthropic wanting to create something with a
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: few more guardrails to make it a little bit more ethical.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: But he made a business decision that has changed the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: direction of the entire AI world. Open Ai decided they
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: were going to go for just general growth, get as
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: many people, you know, engage as possible. Anthropic didn't have
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that much. Capitalist said, well, we're going to focus on enterprise.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: We're going to focus on business and create things that
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: are useful for businesses and where they created. They're not
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: knowing people who created, but what they I think perfected
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: are these things called agents, which means you and your bot,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: your agent can do.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: A lot more work.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: You could tell your your agent, Hey, I've got this
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: tough problem to solve, this business problem to solve. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: got this tough coding problem to solve. I'm going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: go to bed and but you solve it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: This is a very important audience.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's very important, very important for you to go from
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a Google search or whatever it is you're searching from
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: right to you know, in a bot on a website,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to generative AI, generative generative AI artificial intelligence. Let's say
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: my friend Sam Altman and and I think they're really
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: best in class at this chat gput all right, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm on chat, you know, fifty times times a day,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: so so is a van. And then also understand these
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: parallel universes, these other AI platforms that have different emphasis
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and different focuses. There is he just gave you example
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of one cloud dot ai, which.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I also use.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Uh, and now he just told you something which we
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: could do. This would be the whole podcast. By we're
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna cover three or four different things, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: this could just be the whole podcast. He told you
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: about an AI agent, right, This is not your This
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is not your marketing agent. This is not your business.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: This is not your sports agent, is your travel agent agent.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: It's not your theoretic theatrical agent. Okay, get that out
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: of your head. Okay, we could spend the whole dang podcast.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We won't blow in your mind about what you could
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: do if you had a specialized AI agent. We're gonna
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Van one more time to slow this down,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: explain to you what an AI agent is, because I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: think this is the one takeaway again he started off chat.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: You can't leave chat and leave it with a task
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to go sleep at night. Uh, you need to give
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Chat a task and task going through it to answer
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: chat GPT. We'll answer that task and it might people
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: please you a little bit, but you will answer the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: task and you have to challenge it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You're gonna need to challenge.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: The generative AI because it may give you the right
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: answer in the wrong lane. You gotta be dumb in
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: dumb out. An AI agent is different. Okay, Van, go
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a little deep on this and then go later or
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: however you want to go.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: So the thing about having an agent is, or having
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: multiple agents, is it can now start creating businesses that
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: have one human being forty bots in that business can
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: be able to a billion dollars. This is this is
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: where you're at now. You're thinking, on the one hand,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: this is a terrible thing because people might lose their jobs.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I just want you to focus in on what's happening.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Because you could train a bot to take on certain
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: key functions and to do them over and over and
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: over again, very.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Very fast and very very accurately.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: With human oversight, you become bionic, You become you, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: all of the bots that you own and control and
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: direct the same way that you direct people as a boss,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: you'll also be directing bots as a boss. And this
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: is this has just become possible in the past few months.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: So but the fact that these agents are so you
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: have people who have been coding their whole lives who
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: come across a very very tough coding problem.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: They can just tell their will will you deal with this?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Will you build this?
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: And literally just go to sleep, and when they wake up,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: a week's worth of work has been done.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Overnight.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: This is a capability that in the hands of the
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: people who are listening you. As you're starting your business,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: you should be thinking how many humans do I want
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to employ and how many bots do I want to deploy?
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: This is the new business model, Humans and agents. Humans
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: to employ, agents to deploy. Once you begin to understand that,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: you begin to realize. Hold on a second, what has
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: been my obstacle? If I'm an African American, I'm Latin,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just from an Aprilar background. I'm from Appalachia, I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: a Native American, I'm female. I've never been able to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: get access to enough capital to hire enough people to
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: do all the things that need to get done. Capital
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: is no longer your obstacle. Capital is being displaced by code.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Code is replacing capital, which means your creativity is the
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: limit to what you can do. You can literally begin
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: to vibe code.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: This is capital.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now, your intellectual capital plus code is actually more
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: valuable than financial capital and is the pathway to financial capital.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Let's opportunate everybody. The last fifty years, labor made money,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: what money made money on labor, and then in the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: last twenty thirty years, money made more money on money
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: than money could.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Make on labor.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And now what advance telling you is that knowledge is
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: how you make money.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: That's coming.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to change that one word from
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: knowledge to intelligence. Not perfect, okay, because intelligence it doesn't matter.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: That word matters because you put it this way. Two
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: hundred years ago, if you wanted a glass of water,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: you had to get up out of your bed, walk
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: out of your hut or cabin, down to a river
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: with a bucket, get the water, walk back. Getting a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: glass of water was incredibly labor intensive. You don't know
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: that because you grew up in a world where you
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: could just literally do this and have water, so you
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: don't even appreciate water. Water is the clean fresh water
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: is a miracle that for ten thousand years people fight
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: wars over you just do this in this water. The
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: same ten thousand years, intelligence was very, very difficult to attain.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: You would have to be picked to go to a
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: temple to learn to describe the library at timbook two,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: they had all the books in the world. It burned
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: down like intelligence was incredibly rare and incredibly valuable in
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: our lifetime. You had to go to first grade, second grade,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: third grade, fourth grade, high school, college, gonna be like me,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: go get a be a fellowship at Prince and a
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: fellowship a m my team just to know stuff. Now,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: intelligence is right here. You can literally with these tools
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: get an awful lot of intelligence.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: On tap on tap.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: So here's the problem that we have, especially communities you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: who may have been overlooked or underestimated. It's not so
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: much that you now have a bunch of stuff you
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: have to learn, that's true.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: We have to unlearn the idea that it's going to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: take us this long.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: It's going to take us ten years to build a company,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: is going to have to hire a thousand people.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I've got to go to get a bank on The.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: First thing I can do is realize you might be
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: able to build a billion dollar company with two people
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: and a bunch of bots.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Let's say a million dollar company. Just to make.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It sure, you can definitely, you can definitely build a
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: million dollar company with two people and a few bots.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: One one hundred percent.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Like that's available as of by the way, not September
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: not possible, not October not possible, December possible. That's what's
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: going on is that these we went from chatbots being
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the main thing to agents being the main thing. If
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: you understand that, what do you do get on Claud.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not paid to support Claude. I don't have no,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: no stake in Claud. I've met Daria a couple of times.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: But my team is starting to use these bots, these
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: agents to super accelerate my research ability so that I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: basically I'm on path now to being able to give
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: myself the equivalent of a PhD every three months.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, like on the.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Of intelligence that you're gaining from this new water hose.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, and this is me.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I'm certainly I'm certainly doubling my intelligence level annually because
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of AI is my co creator creator.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So this is the something.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Give you this.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: So that's the good news.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Give you some bad news, and we'll give you some
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: good news and then maybe I can come back. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I want to have this conversation. But I want to
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: have it with you. Nothing I've said if you heard
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: me say on CNN, you know, on my own substack,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I am talking to you because you're my co founder
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: and co under hope AI. So I would have this
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: conversation with your nutt and how much of this if
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I told you even before.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: This none of them.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We've not talked about any of this before, and I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: want to talk about either this that conversation or next
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: why black people, in particular black and brown people are
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: not only not going to be a liability or be
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: potentially left behind in this AI revolution, but actually might
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: have for the first time almost ever, qualities that were overrated,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, overlooked, underrated, not appreciated, but actually in this
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: AI world actually just might be supersized, super powerful and invaluable.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But we'll get to that as part of this conversation.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Good, we'll close with that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: But I think that the short way to say it
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: is qualities and characteristics that you just said that may
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: have been correlated with success in the old system may
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: not be, And qualities that were correlated with failure and
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the old system may not be. Especially hustle, creativity, innovation,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: the ability to exactly, the ability to to to to
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: make unusual connections, like all the stuff that people at
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the margins have to learn how to do to survive.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You combine that with these.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Tools also, and all of a sudden you got then
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: you're you're Then you're on on the vert on the vertical.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: The other thing that I think we should be clear about, is.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: That are a.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Comfort level with dislocation, like you said, like like sometimes
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: you say that you know, it's just was a crisis
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: for other communities just another Tuesday for us. That that
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: just like living in constant sort of disruption, you're preadapted
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: for the world that you're about to live in because
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: it's going to be new things coming all the time.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And if you used to have to deal with a
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: different problem every day, you're even psychologically and spiritually preadapted
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: for some of this stuff.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So, but so let me just tell you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: So the good news is for you, you can definitely
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: build a successful company with a lot fewer people, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: you can go a lot faster. You can get to
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: an exit a lot faster. You might be able to
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: build a billion dollar company and sell it to somebody
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: this year. That's that's that's that you should be thinking.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Your expectations should be. Is not going to take me
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: ten Years's gonna take me ten months.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: An audience, I want you to think million dollar companies.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: He's a good news. Look, it's only ten percent of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Black America make one hundred thousand a year. Actually, that's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is sub ten percent I want you to think you
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: can make one hundred grand right now the year, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Have to do only fans. You don't have to don
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: be an influencer.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything illegal.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: You don't have to.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: You don't have to sell marijuana. You don't have to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you have to be a rapper, you know, you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you have to be an entertainment business or disrespect intend
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: at the entertainment business.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: You can.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You can make one hundred grand a year plus. That's you,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that's your jam. Yes, you can build a seven figure
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: business in your neighborhood just just servicing your look. You
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: don't have to be you don't have to create a patent.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You don't have to create you know in where Gainesville?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Where are you know you're in tallahassee forwarder where you
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: can become the master of your space and build a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: build some between the six and seven figure enterprise right
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: where you live that craates generational wealth for your family.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But again Van's thinking in the stratosphere. He's thinking billions
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: because he's not because he's gonna be who are gonna
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: have trillion dollar businesses? And I respect all that. I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: want you to know that a million is just fine.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We'll take it. Turn it down a million.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I'll say that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Now let me just give give a little bit of
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the bad news, and then we'll good news. There is
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: a challenge, which is that it's just the math of it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: As the technology develops on an exponential curve, but most
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: people are adopting and adapting on a linear curve, there
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: is a gap. And that gap could be called social unrest.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because where things an go worse before they get better,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: exactly before they come back up.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: And in that period that gap, which I call it
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the social unrest gap, you you run some serious social risks. Now,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: the people who are listening to this are going to
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: be writing the curve up, so they're not they're they're
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be exempted, but they're gonna be You're gonna
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: have some cousins that are not they're not going to
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: ride that curve and who are going to keep trying
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to do the same thing the same old way, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: so there will be people who are left out, left behind.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I told Peter was you think about
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that as a technical problem.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: You know, mass unemployment is the way you talk about it,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: and what do you do about that. I said, you're
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: missing the human part of it. It's not mass unemployment
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: that becomes mass humiliation. M If you take twenty thirty
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: forty million people who have had a job, who went
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: to college, or who've done well, and all of a sudden,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: all these corporations say we don't need you, we don't
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: need you, we don't need you. We're going to replace
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: all the humans with these spots. What that does is,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I've worked in some of the toughest prisons in the world.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: You take somebody who already doesn't have anything and humiliate them,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: they become the most dangerous person in that prison.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: The most dangerous person world is a person with no hope.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: No hope, And so you know these you know, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Peter was like, you know, I'm concerned about what the
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: social unrest in this transitional period. What you know, some
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: some people people listen to this are gonna jump on
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Claude tonight. They're gonna call their cousin or their you know, nephew,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: They're going to get some coaching on it. They're gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: look on YouTube videos and by the end of the
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: week they're going to have made their first adult their
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: first skill adult their first agent, and they're gonna be
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: holy crap, I.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Don't I don't have to pay my bills because my
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: bot does that for me. I don't have to.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: And they're gonna be on a jet pack. But they're
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: gonna have a cousin or a neighbor that's done. What
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: about them? What I suggested to Peter is that we
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: need entrepreneurs who are who are launching what I call
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: social tech technology companies that are designed to help distribute
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: some of this abundance that you guys are creating. You're
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: creating on this abundance for people who have bots and robots,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: but if you don't have bots and robots, you're just
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: being your abundance without participation. Abundance without inclusion feels like scarcity.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: And so you think you're scaling abundance, but people are
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: gonna think you're scaling scarcity. You think you're creating more,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: but people don't feel like they're getting less. And so
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: in that gap, we need moonshots of brilliant and people
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: stepping in and saying I'm going to make sure that
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: every grandmother in Detroit gets her bills paid by using
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: this platform. I'm going to step in to make sure
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: that every young person in Atlanta is able to access education.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: We're going to need a wave of new entrepreneurs launching
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: new moonshots in the social tech space, which would be
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: a new set of companies, and those can make money.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: So your traditional businesses can make more money by using
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: these agents. You're employing people in deploying agents. That's your
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: traditional businesses. But I also want to point out, because
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: of this dislocation problem, there also can be new companies.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: This is where I hope AI becomes so important.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Nobody in a position to organize the tech sector and
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: our community to come together to solve that problem, except
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: for John O'Brien, the only person.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Who has said, well.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Well I'm happy you Batman, I'm Robin. But because he
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: already has Sam Altman on speed doplic, he's already moved
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: through these different worlds and they trust him, he's in
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: a position to have us come together. That between the
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: AI Epics Council, that that that you're running, John, and
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: hope AI, which you now launch, there's finally a space.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: We also have AI l P three, which is being
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: run by Georgia State University and Dean uh Dean Phillips there.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: He was just in my office yesterday. That is taking
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the K through high school and soon K through college
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: ecosystem and pipelining young people. UH to do what they
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: were used to call a code, which you used to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: do is just coding, but getting people getting kids and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: not be afraid of the jobice the future, but to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: create them. They'll be afraid of companies in the future,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but to create them. So this pipeline of prosperity UH
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: through AI l P three connects to UH Hope AI
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and and is UH is literally part of the hope
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: for the future. And uh AND has all the school districts,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the line of public schools and HBCUs and Georgie University
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: all connected together.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: So I want to add that needs.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So again, how you relate to this at a human level.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Everybody will relate different. Some people like change and they'll
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: be excited. Some people are not comfortable with change, They're
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: going to be more nervous. But what I want us
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to always remember is you know, whoever you are, you
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: come from a people that overcame a lot. I don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: care what color you are, I don't care what your
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: faith is. You go but you want to go back
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to many generations to find people who have to overcome
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: a lot, and uh, they figured it out, and we
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: now live in a world that is the result of
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: them figuring it out. Was World War Two, the Great Depression, slavery, segregation,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: women can't vote. People always face these challenges and then
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you know, we come up with a good outcome. I
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: firmly believe that these tools are so extraordinary. If you
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: can take these tools are basically they run on data
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: HM and you combine.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Them with wisdom.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Data plus wisdom equals a great civilization. Right, That's that's
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: what a great is available to us. AI Artificial intelligence
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: is important, but so is ancient intelligence AI. SO Ancestral
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: intelligence AI. SO is Aboriginal intelligence AI, African intelligence AI,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Asian intelligent AI. There's lots of AIS that need to
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: be at the table with this new AI. So we
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: can start to create futures that we want. But the
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: first step for anybody listening to this is get the
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: tool in your hand. I'm not paid by Claude. This
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: is one that everybody has found that is the most useful.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: If somebody is a better one tomorrow, I'll tell you
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: about that one.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: But just as claud AI, give.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yourself an hour a day that you're going to be
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: scrolling on Instagram or scrolling on x or whatever. Take
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: that hour you would be on the phone anyway, on
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: a computer anyway, and instead of scrolling on social media,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: play with claud or any other platform. They'll let you
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: start building agents. Because you have stuff in your life
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: right now, Like I said, was paying bills. Whatever it
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: is that you don't like billing, so let about do it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: And the minute you get one that does something for
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: you in one second that would have taken you an hour,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you suddenly realize you can get a lot of life back.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: M you can get a lot of life back. You
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: can make money, lose money, make it back. When you
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: lose time, you never get it back. And so what
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: these things are doing is giving.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: You appulfimate audience. Evana just gave you another mic drop.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So think of an AI agent as an efficiency time save,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a time recapturer. Anything can be processed in this routine
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: that can be done. Yeah, you know, think about it
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: as a personal bot. That is, think about a virtual
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: robot that is functioning and doing things for you.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: When you're not doing it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That's the best way I can describe it, and think
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: about how many things in your life fit that category.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Another thing he just said, which is not obvious, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I want to underscore it. Wealthy people value their time.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Poor people value their money. And all money is, all
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: cash is, is an exchange of value. That's it. A check.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I can write a check on your T shirt with
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a routing number and an account number and sign it,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and you can take that T shirt to the bank,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and the bank is going to be scratching their head
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: think of whether they have a legal responsibility to cash
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: your T shirt because all a physical check is is
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the structural uh uh transfer, the structurally acceptable transfer of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: value of your money from one place to another.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm saying, in this example, you can do this
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: on my T shirt.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And they got to sit there and question whether they
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: are legally obligated to do that, whether all the parameters
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: are there. I can give you a I can give
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: you this bottle and say give me that pencil, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: we've exchanged value, because that's all currazy is exchange of value.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: So we obsess on money, cash bag dollar, all this
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: present moment making a living stuff, but you're not building
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a life and once you finish making a living and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you're and you got and you and you're beyond a
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: phase if you got too much month at the end
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of your money. I know that's a big phase right
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: when you're out of the desperation and phrase of I'm
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: in crisis mode and you're going from survival to thriving
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: mindset to winning and building mindset.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Now you want time, And what a.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Wealthy person, whether wealthy, whether you're wealthy in your pocket,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: so you're wealthy in your mind, you understand the value
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: of time and what and what technology does with AI does.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Better than anything else.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Is it gives you your time back, it gives you
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: more time.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, but understand this. Wealthy people value time more than money.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Poor people value money more than time.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Factor you well, listen, I mean I almost want to
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: went into there because it's just so much to just say,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: but I do want to say.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Something about time. And this is a little bit deep.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: But if you stay with us as long, maybe you
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: like deep conversations with being John. But not only is
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: what John's saying exactly correct. I've noticed this around what
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: wealthy people. They'll spend an infinite amount of money to
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: not waste their time. People say, well, why do they,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: you know, have household staff, cooking form and cleaning form.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: They just want to oppress poor people. No, they want
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: to spend their time on reading, on high value relationships
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: so they can continue the flywheel of their success. If
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: you know, you know someone who could make a billion dollars,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: but instead of washing their own dishes and you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: doing their own laundry, in their mind, I just lost
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: ten million dollars.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: That mean the time I've wasted on doing that. So
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: it's a different way of looking at time.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: But by the way, that whole thing, this could be
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a separate podcast by itself, This could be a separate hour.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: What you just said, why don't I have a driver?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I drive myself most of the time, but
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: why don't I have a sprinter van drive? I'm trying
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to save time. I'm in the back working. I'm not
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: sitting there drinking.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Caboy, you're working because you always called me from the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: back of that damn thing.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Why do you have a cook because I'm not. It's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: not a good bestment of my time. I need to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: be working. I mean, so so all now I want
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the list, I want the audience to stop flossing, stop
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: focusing on blinging and singing and thing that all that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: stuff that all these tools, private jets, all that stuff's
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: not meant to be in an Instagram photo.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Those people want to.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Know what a private jet, don't want anybody to see it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: They're just trying to get from point A to point
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: B efficiently quickly, not through airports, not standing in lines,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: not going through tsa not you know, they want it
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: because they're time.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: That's the greatest scene. The first the first time I
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: flew on somebody's private jet, like you know, they said, well,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: you know, meet me there at three. I said, well,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: what times the plane leave me? He said three? And
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: I was like what they said, you'll meet me there
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: at three. We're leaving at three. So in my mind,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: I'm so dumb. I'm like, well, I must be misunderstanding.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: If we're leaving at three, I need to get there
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: at two. So I show up at a private airport
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: an hour before the flight, and they look at me
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: like I'm a crazy person like you here, like literally,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: rich people drive up, they get out the car, they
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: walk on the flight, it takes off, and so that
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: whole hour and a half that I spend every time
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I go someplace, they don't have to spend, and so
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: they can put that forward, this business, steal, that business deal,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: this book, this relationship that keeps their thing going. So
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: it's just a different mentality which I've just observed. But
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I also just want to say something about people's experience
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: of time in the age of the singularity. When you're
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: when now the curve has gone vertical, you will notice
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: that there is a different form of time that you
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: haven't experienced before because it wasn't available before. So let
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: me just that it's going to give you a couple
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: of examples. In the old days an indigenous culture, time
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: was a circle. You know, the sun goes up, the
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: sun goes down, the moon goes through its phases. You know,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: the plant you harvest everything. An indigenous and angrarian life,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: times is so. In other words, tomorrow and yesterday are
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: the same thing. We're just going to keep going through
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: the same process with the sun and the moon and
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: the seasons, et cetera. In that world, the most important
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: key to survival is preservation of culture, preservation of seed.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: So that's why when every year with indigenous people is
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: very slow it's very calm. Whenever you're on a farm,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: it's very slow. It's very calm because you're just preserving
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: all these rituals and all this wisdom. Industrial society comes
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: along and suddenly, for the first time ever, time is
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: in a circle.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: It's a line.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: And your experience in industrial society is not that you're
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: in a circle, that you're on a train track. The
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: path is behind you, the present is with you, and
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: the future is over there. And so now the future
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: is different than the past for the first time ever,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: and you're going someplace. The key survive skill and that
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: is something called planning, because you need to pick where
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: is this train going.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I've got to plan my life. You ask, if somebody
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: sixth grade, what are you going to be when you
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: grow up? You're going to college?
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Because in an industrial society you better have a good plan,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: because if you don't have a good plan, you're going
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: to wind up over here when you want to be
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: over there. And so we've built all these institutions around planning, schools, universities, consultancies,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: et cetera. Because you need to have a plan. You
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: may notice it's hard to plan. Now, how are your
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: plans in year two thousand. How they work out.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: It turns out that planning, you may notice, is a
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: lot more difficult.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: Why because in the digital age, the future is not
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: You aren't experiencing the future anymore as you're going to
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: the future. You experience the future as the future is
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: coming to you. There is an on rushing future. You're
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: sitting on the track and the train is coming to you.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Multiple possible futures are coming to you. That's not that
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that's a new experience of time for a human being.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: That's why you feel a little bit concerned. And it
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: turns out the skill set to survive and thrive and
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: the ad digital era is not preservation. It's not planning.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: The key skill is being prepared to pivot. Can you pivot?
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Can you say, Okay, this is coming by I don't
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: want that, I'm going to poop, move to this. Being
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: prepared to pivot is the new survival skill. And who
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: is better prepared to pivot and to move from this
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to this to this to that than people who've been
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: living in disruption the whole time. So this is a
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: very long way of saying exactly what John said at
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the very beginning. You yes, your Planning is still important.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Preservation is still important. I'm not saying it's not important.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that now there's a new skill set,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: how do you prepare to pivot? That means you need
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: to change what you're reading, watching, listening to. So it's
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: spending an hour on social media to be spending an
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: hour with your claud bop. But now what you're preparing
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: yourself so that when the man comes and say you're
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: going to be fired, you say, no, you can't fire
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: me because it's me plus the seven bots that I
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: created for myself that are actually more valuable than your
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: whole company. So like, because you were preparing for the pivot,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: you were preparing to be able to deal with this thing.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: So listen, you know these are things I've never even
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: said perfectly. My understanding of the human experience of time
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: and the digital era, all these things are things that
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: John and I are going to be institutionalizing through hob Ai.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: We want to give you an unfair advantage in this world.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: We want to give you an unfair advantage from a
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: mindset point of view, from a skill set point of view,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: and from a tool set point of view, so that
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: you and your family can do well. And then because
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: it's us, if he goes, it's you, because it's John,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna leave nobody behind. We also are going
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: to figure out this social tech question to make sure
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: that their platforms helping.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: The people who get left behind.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: But you, yourself, I want you to be a winner
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: helping the people who might be losing. I don't want
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: you to be a loser complaining and begging the government
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: to help you, because the government cannot help you with
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: the speed so.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: And any signaling they're not interested in helping you anymore.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Even if they wanted to, and I'm not sure they do.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: But anyway, so listen, Look, I know we're well past time,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: but I just want to say I spend a lot
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: of time in very strange places, places that they don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: let a lot of us go.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: John does the same thing.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: They would actually probably be nervous if they had thirty
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: forty fifty that look like me and John. There would
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: just change the whole vibe. And that's okay. We do
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: stuff that they would change the vibe for, so we
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: not be But but there are things that are coming
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: that are new on this earth, and there are things
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: that are coming that what's ancient in you will help
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: you to actually prevail. Your wisdom, your commitment to your family,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: your love of learning.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be all.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: We certain wouldn't be this part to the podcast if
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: you didn't have a level of learning, you have things
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: that are going to you know, win Piered with these tools,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: make your life, your life better and hopefully make the
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: world better.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And hope AI is coming.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: And if you like any of this stuff, this is
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: this is just a trailer for the whole trilogy that
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: we got cooked up.
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  Speaker 1: I have learned from you this forty five minutes to
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  Speaker 1: an hour band, I've learned from you. I learned every
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  Speaker 1: time I want an I have a note for the audience,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope parts of this go viral because I
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  Speaker 1: want parts of this in particularly to be emphasized. Parts
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  Speaker 1: of this need to go viral so they listen to
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  Speaker 1: the large part they won't. Here's the part because doctor
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  Speaker 1: King was really brilliant at taking me important and making
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  Speaker 1: it feel urgent. Oftentimes the urgent crowds out the important,
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  Speaker 1: and the emotional crowds out the rational. And I always say,
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  Speaker 1: when something's personal, whenever you're emotional about making an emotional decisions.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a wrong one. I rather respect
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  Speaker 1: me and learn to like me, and like me and
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  Speaker 1: never respect me. I'll be offended later. I'm nosy right
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  Speaker 1: now because I may miss something being offended. God gave
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  Speaker 1: me two ears in one mouth. So I listened twice
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  Speaker 1: as much as I talk a Caucasian friend. I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: this on purpose. I'm out at the track condo or
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  Speaker 1: I raised cars and my office out here, and a
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  Speaker 1: very very very prominent Caucasian friend here. I had a
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  Speaker 1: suggestion for him, and he wasn't really listening. He was
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  Speaker 1: just so busy talking. And I said, will you please
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  Speaker 1: shut the muck up? Please just shut up so I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you what I have to tell you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just telling you this because I love you. But you
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  Speaker 1: got to shut up for a minute. And he got
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  Speaker 1: offended by what I said. I said, look, don't you
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  Speaker 1: don't have time to be offended. You've never seen a
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  Speaker 1: brother talk like this before.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need a thing you've got. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: a thing you've got. I'm just trying to help you
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  Speaker 1: be better. And I'm telling you. Everybody else over here
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  Speaker 1: are behind you. I'm looking over here in front of
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  Speaker 1: you and where you can go. But you got to
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  Speaker 1: get out of your own way. You got to get
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: out of your own way. But you don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know that's killing you. Think you know. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have time to be offended. Be offended later. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you this because I love you. It's like a parent.
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  Speaker 1: Would you didn't like what your parents tell you. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't like what my mother was telling me for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: I was upset with her and then realized that later on, dang,
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  Speaker 1: she was completely right.
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  Speaker 2: So glad she told.
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  Speaker 3: Me to hang out with those people and all that
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Think, stop being offended, Stop not understanding what Van Jones
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  Speaker 1: is saying. Stop looking at the small thing and missing
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  Speaker 1: the big thing. Step over and not in it. Stop
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: rearranging the deck chairs and the Titanic the ship is sinking.
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  Speaker 3: We picking drapes.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: We're using old software, We're in an old system where
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: we got we have old habits, we have old wounds,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: we have old trauma and it's triggering us. And this
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: guy is trying to give you a north star that
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  Speaker 1: that will change every star in your universe and you
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  Speaker 1: can't be black for a living anymore. If you're of this,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be black for a living anymore. It's over.
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  Speaker 1: You may not think it's over. It's over. It's slavery
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  Speaker 1: was about money. I mean, this is a four hundred
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  Speaker 1: year old, like delayed message, right. That wasn't about black
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  Speaker 1: That was about money. Someone brought you all the way
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  Speaker 1: over here because they didn't like you. You were valuable
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: to them, but unfortunately you couldn't create an ass because
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: you were one. So now here you are in a
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: flat world with everybody starting is at Van Jones one
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: time and leave it here. Jones once told me, you know, John,
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  Speaker 1: nine nine percent of black folks here's the one and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: another thing. People get offended by the get half the message.
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  Speaker 1: Nine percent Black folks don't know it. Think about AI.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody will just stop there and be a fan. What
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: are you saying about? Like to slow down the end
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  Speaker 1: of the sentence, and John nine knight percent of white
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  Speaker 1: folks don't know it, think about AI either.
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  Speaker 2: Boom my whole brain. I said, fan, you mean we're
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: on a level playing field.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, even Stephen, For ninety nine point nine of people
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: this conversation we had is already past them. So you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: are sitting here literally the first time in your life
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: is even Stephen.
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  Speaker 2: Is jump ball. Jump It's jump ball. If you if you.
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  Speaker 4: Put your hour day into Claude, but I guarantee you
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: call me. I will give you cash money. I guarantee
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: you if you put an hour a day into Claude
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  Speaker 4: for a month, your entire life will change. Your entire
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: business will change, your family will change. And it's free.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: You can can spend more money.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Do a half dozen of them.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, yeah, sure, I meanyeah, I mean yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: but reality is initially it's free.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: You have.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Once you start you becoming a super user, you gonna
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: to pay a little bit more money, but you're gott
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: to make so much more money and save so much
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: more money.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: So look, I gotta go, and you gotta go with
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: what I All I want to say is that hope
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  Speaker 4: AI is very important. When when John announced it, you know,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: if you look at me, I was almost just bouncing
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: like a child behind him, because I understand the importance
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: of taking this level of understanding and making it broadly
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: available to people who might otherwise be overlooked. And I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: know the good that will come from it. And uh, look,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: your friendship is priceless to me. If we weren't doing
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: anything together, you'd still be my favorite person. But we're
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: gonna do something really, really great. And this is just
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: this is just a trailer for the trilogy you'll get
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: to see with Hope I.
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  Speaker 3: The best is you have to come.
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  Speaker 1: This has been Van Jones and to a lesser degree,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: John O'Brien as Batman.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Robin. This is Hope AI.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna change the world as you see it in
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  Speaker 1: our lifetime, and you're gonna change the world of everybody
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: around you. We are going to be the change you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: want to see in the world. This is the third reconstruction.
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