Teacher Archive: Jerry Wagner & Pat O'Leary | The Jesuit Lineage

International Enneagram Association Podcast · Nov 27, 2025 · 1h 27m

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner and Patrick O’Leary, two pioneers in the Enneagram field. Patrick is a founding member of the IEA and co-author of the first Enneagram book, and Jerry is the author of the “Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide” and an honorary founder of the IEA. This conversation dives into the rich history of the Enneagram as a tool, a model and an organization through these teachers’ individual and collective stories.

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