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Mission SONlight Chatt Season 4 Ep. 30 Heidi Tomkins - The Wisdom Pearl · Mission SONlight CHATT

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From the media missionaries of Network 7, welcome
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to Mission Sunlight Chat. We are at the ASI North
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American Division Exhibit Hall here in Orlando,
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Florida in summer 2025. Delighted to be able
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to look out across the exhibit hall and see folks
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sharing and chatting and talking with one another
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about the impact of ministry, the impact of Jesus
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around the globe. And it's been such a blessing
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to be here. hear what God is up to using people
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around the world. I'm Christopher Beeson, your
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host, Jordan Wagner over on the technical side.
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And Heidi Tompkins is one of those ministries
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that is doing some cool things for Jesus around
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the globe. And Heidi, you and I have known each
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other for about a dozen years. I did the calculations
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and I think I sort of remember. I could be wrong,
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you know, I'm getting a little older, but about
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a dozen years or so. And back then your smile
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was just as big as it is today. And I met you
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in the early days of working with ASI. And I
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just remember thinking there's someone who loves
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Jesus and has ASI, the epitome of ASI, the heart
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of ASI in what she's doing, just using her ministry
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to share Jesus. And you've done some expansive
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things. We're going to talk about not just Heidi's
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Health Kitchen in our second segment, but in
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our third segment, we're going to talk about
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how you have had massive impact for spiritual
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health along the political lines of the world.
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Was that a carefully worded statement or what?
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Serious. American politics will never be the
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same because of some of the things some of you
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and your partners are doing. What a blessing.
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Looking forward to sharing that. But before we
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do anything, before we hear your personal testimony,
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let's talk to Jesus. Would you lead us in prayer?
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Yes. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we just thank
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you and praise you for all of your goodness,
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your mercy, that you wait for us and that you
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hold our hands and that you lead us and guide
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us every step of the way that we're willing to
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take with you. And Father, as we take big steps
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for you, we expect big things from you, and we
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pray that these testimonies will be a blessing
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to the hearers and the listeners. In Jesus' name,
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amen. Amen. Heidi, thank you so much for your
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prayer. Thank you for sharing with us. Your journey
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with Jesus has, I don't want to say it's been
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up and down with Jesus, but certainly with life
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has had some ups and downs, right? Take us back
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to your childhood. Where did you grow up? Sure.
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And tell us a little bit about your family. Sure.
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My family's from Connecticut. We lived there
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when I was born. We moved to Vermont for five
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years. And I grew up in the church. And, you
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know, my mom was... So it was a Christian home.
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Yeah, yeah. A Christian home. And my mother was
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very instrumental in us being involved in music
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and all of these things. And my dad was a Pathfinder
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director. And we were just all in. Okay. For
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anybody that doesn't know what Pathfinders is,
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that's in the Seventh -day Adventist church.
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That is the youth program. It's similar to Scouts,
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camping and awards and various activities. Yeah,
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so we were very, very active and had a really
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great, wonderful childhood. When I was in...
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After college, I left the church. I have three
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siblings. They all left the church as well. And
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I really, really wish that that weren't my testimony.
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But God has just done so many great things that,
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you know, I just love sharing the testimony for
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the things that he has done. So you were involved
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in Pathfinders all the years of Pathfinders up
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until around 16? Yeah, I've been sitting in church
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since I was four years old. Okay. And somehow
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through all of that, it didn't quite take, at
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least not immediately. And you wandered? Was
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your college years? I was in college. Yeah, I
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was drifting farther away in college, even though
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I went to one of our schools. But then I went
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straight into the workforce and took a job where...
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I would later have to compromise and work Sabbath
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and so forth and was working a lot of hours.
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I was in sales. And then later took a sales job
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where my boss was an alcoholic. And every time
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someone, I was in telecommunications, and whenever
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someone sold a big deal, we had to go to happy
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hour. And that was every day of the week. I very
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quickly rose to the top. six sales people in
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a company of about 240 in the northeast and I
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was selling large voice and data deals and going
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to happy hour every single night because it was
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like you had to and that with my type A personality
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doesn't really go very well because I go harder
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I don't go at all and so I really felt like I
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had become an alcoholic at that point because
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I couldn't stop. I would drink to excess and
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I couldn't stop. And the worst was Friday evenings
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because, you know, you didn't have to be at work
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the next day. And I remember one Sabbath morning
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waking up, knowing that it's Saturday, knowing
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that it's Sabbath and feeling absolutely horrible,
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sick, headache, everything that you can. imagine
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comes with that. And I remember sitting up in
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my bed thinking, there has to be something better
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than this. And God flashed in my mind all the
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years of growing up in church with my family
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and the peace that I had at that time. And so
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I thought, that's it. I've got to go back to
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church. So I went on my computer, and I found
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out that there was a Seventh -day Adventist church
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about 20 minutes away from me. And I had a black
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lab at that time. By the time I walked my dog,
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I cleaned up, took a shower, and got ready. I
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looked at the time, and it was like 12 .05. And
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I grew up in churches that you get out of here.
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We're done at 12. Yeah. So I thought, okay, I'll
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go next week. this happened for four weeks in
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a row. I got to go to church. I got to get up.
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I got to get ready, but I'm late and I'll go
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next week. And after the fourth week, I, I just
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said to myself, okay, enough is enough. Either
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this is serious or it's not because I know myself
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better than this. If I don't go today, I'll never
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go. So I don't care if they're singing the last
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line of the closing hymn, I'm going today and
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next week I'll go earlier. And I did that. And
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God is just so amazing. When I walked in this,
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This church had a Spanish service in the morning
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and English was in the afternoon. So when I walked
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in there, you were early for church. Can you
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imagine? And I'm not an early person. Well, that
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fits your schedule perfectly. It really, really
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did. Isn't God funny with his sense of humor?
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So, so funny. And so, you know, he was saying,
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I got you, Heidi. I got you. Just trust me. So
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I can, I got very involved in church. I joined
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the choir and, and, you know, praise team and
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all these things. I got very, very involved in
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church. But my job was still causing problems
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because my boss was just, he was an alcoholic.
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And so I told him, I'm not going to drink anymore.
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I'm a Christian, and I've gone back to church.
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And I can't go to, I don't care what happens,
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I'm not going to church. I'm not going to choir
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happy hour on Friday evenings because I have
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choir practice. And that was a really nice excuse
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for me. That really helped matters. And he didn't
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like it, but I would just drink water when I
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had to go and socialize. And occasionally I would
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get pressured to compromise. And unfortunately,
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the worst compromise I made was that year, Christmas,
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just before Christmas time, he came to my desk
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and he said, You're coming to the Christmas party,
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right? And I said, no, I'm not. It was on a Friday
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night, and we had choir practice before our next
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big Christmas program. And I said, no, I'm not.
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I said, we have our final choir practice and
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a Christmas program the next day. He said, no,
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you have to come. I said, well, I'm not coming.
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And he said, well, you have to come. He said,
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you're the number one salesperson in the company.
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And the president is coming to the New York City
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Christmas party to see you. And if you are not
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there, it won't reflect nicely on me. And if
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you don't show your face, then don't come to
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work the next Monday. And I thought, I'm not
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going. You know, so many crazy things happened
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that week. Like on Thursday, I was driving back
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from the field from my territory to the office.
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I'm driving on the Long Island Expressway. Out
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of nowhere, the hood of my car flips open, smashes
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the windshield, and I can't see. And thank God
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it was rush hour. Thank God I was able to get
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over safely to the side without hitting anyone
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or causing an accident. And one of my coworkers
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came and picked me up and brought me home and
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brought me to a rental car enterprise place.
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And I rented a car. And I was standing there
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renting the car. And they asked if I wanted the
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insurance. And I said yes. And he's next to me.
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And he's like, dude, you're such a good. driver,
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you don't need the insurance. You have your own
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insurance. I was like, all right, so I don't
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need the insurance. I was unfortunately very
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influenced by other people at that time. I wasn't
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really strong in the Lord, in my walk with the
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Lord. And so I was heavily influenced. And so
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I didn't get the insurance. And so we're, I'm
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driving home. I go home. I walk my dog. I go
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to choir practice. And after choir practice,
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all my All my coworkers are texting me, you better
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show up at the Christmas party. You better show
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up. I park the vehicle. I get on a train to Manhattan.
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I find out where the place is. I go there. And
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the president didn't show up. All my coworkers
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are drunk and high. And I was just very disappointed
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in myself. And I ended up having a drink. And
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we then left that bar and went back to Penn Station,
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had to wait an hour for a train. So I had another
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drink at Penn Station. And we get on the train,
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the Long Island Railroad heading back home. All
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my coworkers pass out on the train. And we get
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to the last stop, which is where I was getting
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off. And they all decided that I needed to take
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them home. And they say that, you know, when
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you're intoxicated, the first thing that you
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lose is your sense of reason. That's 100 % true.
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I agreed to take them all home, which were. 45
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minutes the other direction from which I lived
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and so I start taking a couple home that's 45
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minutes the opposite direction and my co -worker
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the one that convinced me not to get the insurance
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on the car was sitting next to me in the passenger
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seat and I did not know that he was doing drugs
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with another co -worker that lived an opposite
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another direction south of us and he said dude
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get off this exit I want to go to Lucas's house
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and I said well let me drop these people off
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and then I'll take you he's like no now And I
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said, no, I'm not doing that. It's way out of
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the way. And he was like, no, get off this exit
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now. And I said, dude, chill out, sit back. And
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he said, if you don't get off this exit right
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now, I'm going to flip this truck and kill every
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single one of you. And he proceeded to do that.
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He was in the passenger seat. He elbowed me in
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the chest. He grabbed the wheel and he flipped
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the truck. And this was a 2004 Ford Explorer,
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brand new, less than 100 miles on it. brand new.
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So I could feel the vehicle flipping on its side.
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And on the Long Island Expressway, there are
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ravines downward on each side. And it felt like
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it was starting to roll. I felt like we were
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turning upside down. And all of a sudden, the
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car just miraculously came up on all four wheels.
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And so I was like, everybody get out, check,
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make sure everything's okay. And they all get
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out. And I'm trying to put it in drive and drive
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away. And it was totaled. It wouldn't move. Unfortunately,
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a police officer saw the whole thing happened,
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knocked on my window, asked me to get out, gave
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me a breathalyzer, which I failed. And I was
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arrested. I was brought to probably the worst
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prison in Long Island, in the town of Hempstead.
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And I was handcuffed and my feet were chained.
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And I was chained between a drug dealer and a
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prostitute. Sitting there, bawling, crying. Really
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evaluating life. Because I was thinking, they
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were like, you know, you get one phone call.
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And I was thinking, yeah, I'll call my sister.
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She's a lawyer. She'll help me. But I thought
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about my... Like, how am I going to tell my dad
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this? And then the next thought was, my sister
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will hide my secret. She won't tell them. If
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I tell them not to, she won't tell my parents.
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But my heavenly father is watching me and knows
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exactly why I'm sitting here. And I just cried
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all night long, couldn't wipe my nose or my face.
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And the police officers got so sick of hearing
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me crying, they moved me into the back of the
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precinct. And I was up all night until my sister
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was there in the morning when I went into the
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courtroom. And the judge called. many, many other
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cases before mine. And she was being ruthless,
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even for first -time offenders. Two years in
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prison, suspending license for five years, and
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huge, huge fines, up to $20 ,000 fines. And when
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they called my name and I stepped up, the judge
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looked at me like up and down, and she said,
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you don't belong here. Why are you in my courtroom?
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And so she gave me a very light sentence. She
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just suspended my license for six months, $1
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,500 fine. She said, don't let me ever see you
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here ever again. You don't belong here. And so
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I made a commitment to the Lord because God saved
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my life that night. And I knew that my life was
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meant to be for him, not for me. And so I made
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very, very... big changes in my life, in my schedule.
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And I decided I'm all in because I didn't have
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to be there. I could have been very, very hurt
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or killed and God saved my life. So I decided
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from that moment, I'm all in. And so from there,
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I got rebaptized and, you know, really, really
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came back all in and wanted to give Bible studies.
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And I didn't know how I'd never been taught how
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to give a Bible study. And so An opportunity
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later came where I would go to an evangelism
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school, and I didn't even know I was going there.
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That's a whole other miraculous story about how
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God brought me to evangelism school. But every
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single day that I was sitting in class, God was
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telling me, you've worked for the world long
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enough. It's time for you to work for me. And
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I took that call, and I was running two different
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businesses at that time. I closed them both and
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decided to go into full -time ministry as a Bible
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worker. And so I was a full -time Bible worker
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in New York City. That's formidable. It was wonderful.
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The Lord is so amazing. I mean, there are doors.
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There are doors that you cannot get into. Security,
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doormen, all of these things. And it's like the
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angels were opening the doors for me. It's unbelievable.
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I could tell you stories all night long. Wow.
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So how do we get to Heidi's Health Kitchen? Yes.
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New York City or in the Greater New York Conference,
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there was a huge evangelism effort called NY13.
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And I was a Bible worker for them, for the conference,
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for NY13. And I had trained 20 church members
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because there were way too many, you know, areas
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of the city to follow up on and so forth and
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go door to door. And so I did that and I shared
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the leads with the other church members. December
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31st came, the conference said, well, thank you
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for your time. NY13 is over. You can go home
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now. And I was still studying personally with
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15 people. Church members still had Bible studies
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going on. So I continued to Bible work for free
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until my money ran out, really. And at that time,
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one of the students that I had trained came to
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me and said, hey, why don't we start a ministry
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together? And I had a small group at that time.
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fasting and praying, asking God what we should
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do, and God impressed us to start a health food
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ministry, and it's called Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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So to support our Bible work, because there are
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quotes in Ellen White's writings that say that
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the door -to -door work is going to be one of
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the final works, and God will support it. Paraphrasing,
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of course. We believed that. We believed that
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God would support it. And so we started giving
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cooking classes, health lectures, and Bible studies
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in New York City. We gave over 83 cooking demonstrations
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in Midtown Manhattan. Got a lot of Bible study
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interests and Bible study contacts from our cooking
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classes. And to sell, sorry, to support our work,
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we were selling carob truffles. And I had one
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recipe. I used to just roll them into balls and...
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Bring them if someone invited me to dinner. And
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my partner, my ministry partner now said, you
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know, we need more flavors. And I said, okay,
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I'll ask God. So I prayed. I said, God, would
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you give us more flavors? I'm not really sure
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what to do, but I know you know what to do. I
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had started helping my mom in the kitchen when
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I was maybe seven years old. And by the time
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I was eight or nine, I was mostly cooking our
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family dinners. And I really loved cooking. If
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you asked me what I wanted to do when I grew
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up, when I was like eight or nine years old,
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I wanted to have a vegetarian restaurant. Okay.
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When I grew up. That didn't happen, but... You
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haven't grown up yet, have you? No. So... Heidi,
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I want to hold you there. We're going to talk
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about what developed from there. So hang on just
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a second. We're going to come back in just a
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moment. I want to thank our listeners and viewers
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for being a part of our program today. As you
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can hear in the background, we are at the ASI
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Exhibit Hall. And the noises in the background
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are the sounds of folks chatting about mission
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and ministry, which is what we're doing here
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at Mission Sunlight Chat. So stay tuned. We have
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more to come. This is Mission Sunlight Chat.
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Being a media missionary can mean many different
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things. It means the love of a home at the heart
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of the planet. The intrepid spirit of a village
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and the vibe of a great metropolis. It means
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camera one and camera two. It means transforming
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a school, orphanage, or hospital. It means fire,
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rain, ice, and snow. It means gifts by the dollar
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and by the check. It means donations that roll
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and donations that fly. It's a movement on a
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trail or down a motorway. It means family. All
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of us together. And individually. It's who you
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are or who you are becoming. And to her, it's
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a simple gesture that means hope. Whatever it
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means to you, being a media missionary. means
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more than you might think. Welcome back to Mission
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Sunlight Chat. We are at the ASI North American
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Division in Orlando, and this convention's exhibit
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hall is abuzz with activity. Lots of sharing.
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I just said a moment ago, they are chatting about
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mission and ministry, which is our goal here
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at Mission Sunlight Chat, is to chat about mission
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and ministry. And Heidi, you shared a bit of
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your personal testimony and gotten us closer
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to understanding how Heidi's Health Kitchen came
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along. And so tell us the rest of the story.
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Yes. So my partner and I and some of my Bible
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students, we started Heidi's Health Kitchen as
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a health food ministry. And God has just given
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us product after product to sell to support our
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work. Including giving you new flavors. Yes.
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So we live off the sale of our foods. We really
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felt that we need to do more. We're both Bible
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workers, but we need to do more. And so God impressed
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him that we need to start organizing outreach
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conferences. So we are on our sixth conference
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coming up. We've done five so far. conferences
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are tailored to the unchurched, to those who
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are searching, and those who are truth seekers,
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and especially towards the forgotten, you know,
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wealthier classes, the unreached, you know, wealthier
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classes. And so we have brought very high level
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speakers. We have had Dr. Martin Kulldorff, who
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was one of the signers of the Great Barrington
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Declaration. We have had so many speakers. We've
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had Charlie Kirk, a political activist, but we
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choose speakers that we have something in common
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with. We just are not looking to just bring politics
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into the church, but we're looking for people
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that we have something in common with. Charlie
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Kirk is a Sabbath keeper. Yes. Him and his wife,
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Erica, started reading. They were reading the
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Bible a few years ago, and Charlie was very stressed,
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and they came upon the Sabbath. And he thought
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that they were doing the Sabbath, that they were
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keeping the Sabbath, you know, even though they
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were worshiping on Sunday. And he had a Jewish
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friend that said, no, you need to take a real
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Sabbath. It's from Friday sunset to Saturday
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sunset. It's not going to church on Sunday. It's
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you shut everything down from Friday sunset to
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Saturday sunset. And you spend time with God,
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with your family. And you take rest. Shabbat
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means to cease. So you stop all of your work.
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At our conference, we had him on a panel where
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we were discussing the Sabbath. And he said,
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if you are keeping the Sabbath and I walk into
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your home, I should know it. Because it should
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be different than any other day of the week.
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He said, and if I can shut my phone off at sunset
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on Friday night, then you can. He said, I've
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missed calls from the president. And many, many
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influential people. And I refused to turn my
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phone on during the Sabbath. Everything that
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gets shut off, God gets first preference. And
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we spend time in the Bible, in God's Word, and
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with our family. Amen. Yeah. And so him and Erica
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have become very, very devout Sabbath keepers.
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And so it was a real blessing sharing with them.
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Now, the purpose of sharing with them is, you
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know, we want to lead them higher. Right? Amen.
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We want to lead them higher. We want to, you
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know. Influence him. Our motto or our goal at
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the Wisdom Pearl is to influence the influencers.
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So that's what you call the outreach. Yes. Our
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nonprofit organization is called the Wisdom Pearl.
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Our conferences are called the Battle for Your
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Frontal Lobe because that's really where the
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battle is for our minds. And each conference
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has a different theme. And so we've had health
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themes. We've had many different themes that
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are just bringing people to. We hope a higher
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plane with the Lord and the truth. I'm a little
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slower than some people, which is why they let
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me just sit here and ask questions. I don't get
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to answer any of them. We're going to take a
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break, but at the return of the next segment,
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I want you to help us understand how you get
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from being drunk in New York City to having Heidi's
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Health Kitchen. to rubbing shoulders with leaders
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in our land. We want to talk about how all that,
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because you went through it so quickly, I need
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a review. No problem. We'll be back in a moment
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with more Mission Sunlight Chat. Our salvation
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is a day -to -day matter, isn't it? The real
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principle of the Sabbath. is reconnecting ourselves
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with the Creator. We must learn to abide in Jesus
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now. We move ahead with our mission objectives,
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recognizing that we are serving together the
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Most High God. welcome back to mission sunlight
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chat where we are at the asi north american division
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exhibit hall In summer 2025, as we record this,
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One of those ministries here at the exhibit hall
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is Heidi's Health Kitchen as well as the Wisdom
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Pearl. You have a joint effort, one a nonprofit
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and the other a for -profit. So Heidi's Health
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Kitchen is Heidi'sHealthKitchen .com. Correct.
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And then the other is the WisdomPearl .org. Yes.
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Okay. So I kind of understand you were this pretty
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groovy sales lady in New York. You kind of got
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yanked into well -doing and better behavior.
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You and your partners and your friends figured
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out you wanted to do this outreach with Heidi's
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Health Kitchen. My disconnect is how did you
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get to the wisdom, Pearl, and connecting with
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leaders of thinking people from Heidi's Health
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Kitchen? You know, it's not exactly something
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you look for in a chef. Correct. pandemic, we
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actually had done a few conferences already.
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They're called the Plant -Based Summit. And we
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had, we worked with Dr. T. Colin Campbell. Were
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you doing those like around the New York City
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area? Yes, yes. We did one at Baruch College
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in Manhattan, and we also rented the Brooklyn
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Law School for a conference. And so we had already
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had some experience doing it. When the pandemic
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happened, you know, people were really searching
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even more and asking questions like, how is all
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this that's going on okay with God? A lot of
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people were asking questions. And these are the
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people who wouldn't necessarily walk into a church.
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So we felt like we had to provide something for
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them. And so we formed the Wisdom Pearl, a nonprofit
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organization. And we began organizing these outreach
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conferences for truth seekers who wouldn't walk
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into a church. But they would come to a hotel
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or they would come to like a super cool venue.
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Like we're renting the... U .S. Space and Rocket
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Center in Huntsville, Alabama. They have the
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largest rocket in the world, the Saturn V rocket.
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And we're having a conference there. And so we've
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also rented the Ark Encounters, Answer in Genesis
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Theater. And so, you know, just really super
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cool venues so that people can bring their, you
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know, non -church friends and truth seekers.
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And so with that, we just felt there's a class
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of people that is unreached. And those people
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need the Lord just as much as anyone else. And
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so we wanted to reach the higher classes. We
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wanted to reach the wealthier. And really, it's
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God. It's God that made those introductions.
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It's God that made all of those things happen.
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And he just put us in contact with those people.
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We met through Heidi's Health Kitchen. We won
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a chef competition at the Javits Center in New
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York City. And we were offered a restaurant deal
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by a celebrity chef who owns 27 restaurants.
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And we had the opportunity to witness to him
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about the Sabbath. Obviously, we didn't open
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a restaurant with him because he didn't agree
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to close it during Sabbath hours, even though
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we felt very confident that the Lord would make
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it his most profitable restaurant if he did.
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But, you know, God has just given us very unique
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opportunities to meet very high level people.
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And so we've used those opportunities to. share
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the gospel with them, to share Bible truths,
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deeper Bible truths with them, to influence the
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influencers. Very good. And that just became
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your outreach for the kitchen, or do you see
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it as a separate entity? It's really a separate
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entity, but we do combine them in some sense.
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I mean, we cater our own conferences. Very good.
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So people are getting a taste of Heidi's Health
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Kitchen as well. Do you include cards or information
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so that they can look up more recipes and how
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they can get other foods and stuff? We usually
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play a commercial or two for Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Okay, so you have some sort of promotional element.
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Yeah, exactly. Very good. Yeah. What else do
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you want us to know about the Wisdom Pearl? Well,
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the Wisdom Pearl is we're now expanding out of
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just conferences. For example, we are just now
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looking to do very high -impact, high -level
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events. And just a quick teaser for something
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we have coming up Christmas, December 21st, we're
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organizing an 80 -member orchestral concert at
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the Lincoln Center. They're David Geffen Hall,
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which is unbelievably beautiful. And it's called
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The Desire of All Nations. And we're inviting
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dignitaries and leaders from the UN and from
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nations, as well as some very high -profile people
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in our country, to attend this event. And throughout
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the musical... sections will be read from The
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Desire of Ages. And a beautiful hard copy version
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of The Desire of Ages will be given to the VIPs.
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Amen. What an outreach. Yeah. You know, that
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kind of impact at big levels will cause people
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to reflect on who they are in their own spiritual
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journey, but also in their religious liberty
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treatment of others in a different spiritual
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journey. Yes. And you never know where that's
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going to lead. Absolutely. We could have, wow,
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this could be. But, you know, we have to trust
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God and let his Holy Spirit lead. We're to do
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the work and we're to let God do the reaping,
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right? Amen. Yeah. Amen. I know you have some
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thoughts from Scripture you want to share with
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us. Would you do that? Well, my very favorite
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chapter in the Bible is Isaiah chapter 30. It,
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to me, is very... reflective of the journey that
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I've been on with the Lord because I was one
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of those rebellious children. It starts out saying,
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woe to the rebellious children. And my favorite
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verse in the chapter is verse 15. It says, for
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thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel,
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in returning and in rest, you shall be saved.
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In quietness and in confidence shall be your
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strength. Now, the end of that verse is, but
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you would not. And for many years, I would not.
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But God got my attention. He saved me miraculously,
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and so I'm all in. Amen. All in for Jesus. Yes.
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Amen. Heidi, you've encouraged me, and I know
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you've encouraged Jordan. He's been over there
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smiling and enjoying the program as well. I hope
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our audience as well has been blessed. Thank
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you so much for sharing with us. Thank you for
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having me. Thanks for having me, Chris. We're
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going to say the websites one more time. We'll
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also put those in the page information for our
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listeners and viewers to check out. Heidi'sHealthKitchen
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.com and TheWisdomPearl .org. Correct. And with
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Heidi'sHealthKitchen .com, we ship our products
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across the country. So check us out. What if
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I live in another country? It's more expensive.
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It can be done? It can be done. All right. Very
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good. Heidi, thanks so much. It's been good to
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reconnect. Yeah. So what a blessing. Thanks so
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much for your time. That is our program from
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here at the ASI North American Division Exhibit
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Hall. in Orlando, Florida, 2025. It's truly been
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a blessing to have you along with us. Remember,
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are praying for you. And I say to that, thank
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you, thank you, thank you. That is our program.
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