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- 0:00Trying to think of what else I need up drive.
- 0:01That's right, that's what I need.
- 0:05Yeah, but there's no budget. Well, I guess I do have the
- 0:09totals listed, but you're right, there's it's always weird to do
- 0:14the wrap UPS because I'm always like, well, ever since double O
- 0:19seven, I'm always like, I didn't do anything to prepare.
- 0:22For this? Oh no, like I don't, I don't
- 0:25think there is anything to prepare.
- 0:27It's kind of a low key 45 minute episode.
- 0:31Yeah, it's these are the ones that that we usually knock out
- 0:35pretty quickly. But yeah, I also didn't look
- 0:40anything up about the TV series except that it exists.
- 0:45I still know that it's just an interesting thing.
- 0:51So like you said, it's probably going to be 45 minutes, so we
- 0:55might. As well, depends on how it goes.
- 0:58I'm trying to like by film, by character.
- 1:02We'll have to see. What do we do?
- 1:05Indeed. Which one did I hate?
- 1:16Hello and welcome to Potato Chip Pictures, the movie franchise
- 1:22review podcast. I am the Sammy Davis.
- 1:26I am Justin. He's here and today we are
- 1:31finishing with the Child's Play, the Chucky franchise.
- 1:37It really depends on how you want to title it because like
- 1:41half of the movies are called Child's Play and the other half
- 1:44of the movies are something of Chucky.
- 1:47So you you can't really say definitively that it is one or
- 1:52the other, but I kind of prefer Chucky as the franchise name.
- 1:57I feel like there's at least the first, what, 7 movies all feel
- 2:05like the same Chucky exists and then you have the reboot.
- 2:10So I probably just stick with Chucky 'cause he's the draw.
- 2:17Like, I don't know that I could tell you off the top of my head
- 2:22the plots of each of them, except for the fact that Chucky
- 2:26gets to murder several people over several movies.
- 2:32Yeah, see. And I think I still could.
- 2:34I think I still could rattle rattle on.
- 2:37You enjoyed the first ones? I really did.
- 2:40I had a great time with a lot of these.
- 2:43There was a particular stinker early in the franchise with
- 2:49Child's Play 3, but otherwise really all but one of them ended
- 2:56up above A5. There was 1 stinker that I gave
- 3:01a 2 and then another one that I gave a 5, but everything else I
- 3:05had a great time with this franchise.
- 3:09Yeah, I think it after three movies that seemed to be in the
- 3:15same era, I do think that Bride of Chucky really brought things
- 3:23closer to what the pop culture view of Chucky is.
- 3:28The murdering doll, that kind of wisecracks, but he's still a
- 3:36serial killer. Yeah.
- 3:40And, you know, just looking at some of the scores, that seems
- 3:44to be where the franchise took a turn for you in, in terms of
- 3:49quality, where you started to say, yeah, this is this is good.
- 3:55Yeah, I think it's probably just the era of filmmaking that I'm
- 4:02not nostalgic for. 80s movies, early 90s.
- 4:09I don't know how well most of them have aged just in, just in
- 4:14pure technical appearance. Like there's this hazy look to
- 4:18most of the 80s movies. Oh, I'll agree with that
- 4:22completely, because I was thinking of movies that I liked
- 4:26versus movies that I didn't like from the 80s.
- 4:31And the best example would be Indiana Jones.
- 4:33Like that's a fantastically fun 80s set of movies, but then
- 4:40around the same time you've got weird science and both of those
- 4:45movies seem to be shot with fog turned on at all times.
- 4:51Got to have some presence. We can't let people know this is
- 4:54actual set like. Yeah, and you know how how
- 4:58prevalent haze is in the 80s? Everywhere.
- 5:03Yeah, yeah, it's, you know, and I'm, I'm going to say the
- 5:09biggest surprise for me is that Child's Play is 1988.
- 5:14It is late 80s in my head. For some reason I always thought
- 5:20Chucky had been around since like, well, as long as I've been
- 5:24around, you know, like the whole 80s.
- 5:27Yeah, I I don't know the first time I've heard of him.
- 5:32I know I was younger, but I don't think I would have really
- 5:40heard anything until seed of Chucky may have been coming out.
- 5:44Like bride of Chucky feels like it's a the first modern Chucky
- 5:54and it it gets it scores a high rating.
- 5:57Like it might. I feel like my issue with the
- 6:02first 3 where I didn't love them and they all kind of declined,
- 6:08is not because of the animatronics.
- 6:11I I, I will say that's a shining spot of wow, they made this
- 6:15Chucky doll look and move. And yeah, sure, they maybe
- 6:20fudged it with long distance ones where you dress up an
- 6:22actor, but that's also still cool.
- 6:24Like, OK, it's still a moving doll.
- 6:30I feel like the other cast of characters kind of just let's it
- 6:34down in those first 3. I mean, I'm always going to push
- 6:39back with OG Andy and then in the second movie Kyle.
- 6:44I think those two are pretty great.
- 6:46But then replacement Andy, I'm right there with you.
- 6:50Like Child's Play 3 is just raw garbage and the human characters
- 6:55do not do it any favors. If I rewatched maybe I would
- 7:00increase my score as if I disregard the characters as
- 7:03being just there to be killed. But yeah, Andy making it or or
- 7:12reconvincing acting in the first movie really makes it feel like
- 7:16well why do the rest of these humans feel silly?
- 7:22Feel off like Kyle was also good, but then the foster
- 7:29parents are just kind of like caricatures and the the Military
- 7:33Academy is kind of just to get some war games going on.
- 7:39Like I think this just feels like a setup.
- 7:44Was it two or three that I think probably 2 that had that the
- 7:48couple that was like teenagers getting married?
- 7:54That was Bride of Chucky. That was when we returned.
- 7:58Yeah. So I mean, I guess it bleeds
- 8:02into that one, but. I was going to say you didn't
- 8:05like the human characters from Bride of Chucky, whereas I I
- 8:10found them charming and I had a good time with them.
- 8:13I genuinely, my favorite thing about those characters was the
- 8:17fact that both of them suspected the other one of being
- 8:21psychotic. Yeah.
- 8:23I just thought that was such a wonderful touch.
- 8:26Let's get in a van with each other.
- 8:27It'll be. Fine, exactly.
- 8:29Even though you're kind of psychotic, all we got to do is
- 8:31deliver these dolls, these perfectly safe dolls.
- 8:34Because, again, dolls don't kill people.
- 8:38We'll have it. Made with. $1000.
- 8:43It will, yeah. We'll never have to work again.
- 8:45Basically, our lives will be set.
- 8:48Hold on, this isn't $1,000,000. Yeah, for real.
- 8:53Seed of Chucky had some really good ideas and was a lot of fun.
- 8:58That was the one where we kind of flipped our scores and I went
- 9:02lower and you went higher. I'm not going to spite it.
- 9:06It's great ideas, I just didn't vibe on it as much as I did with
- 9:12Bride of Chucky. But it's still a very fun movie
- 9:17and has some great ideas. And then we get to the real
- 9:22surprises, which are the straight to home video movies.
- 9:28Curse of Chucky. I had a lot of fun with Cult of
- 9:32Chucky. It's not great by any means, but
- 9:37it's surprisingly good for a straight to home video movie.
- 9:41Yeah, yeah, I I agree that haze is gone and the the shooting
- 9:48seems like it's thought out. I think if I remember, my score
- 9:56for Cursive Chucky was merely the fact that I thought it was a
- 10:012019 complete reboot, and then it wasn't, and so the first half
- 10:07being boring and slow only got halfway redeemed by an amazing
- 10:15twist. So yeah, all of that feel like,
- 10:24yeah, I, I, not to jump to the last one, but I gave Curse of
- 10:28Chucky and the reboot the same score.
- 10:32And I think that's mostly fair because I knew going in it was
- 10:38reboot and then it had some pleasant above average surprises
- 10:43and performances. The kids and the horror of a
- 10:49doll that will kill for you was sold well with the props and
- 10:55with the acting. You know, I got to be honest, of
- 10:59all of these movies, the 2019 reboot is the one I keep
- 11:03thinking about just because of how different it was and how
- 11:07much of A risk it took. And it's definitely not perfect.
- 11:13I still think our scores were accurate.
- 11:16But I think it's worth a watch. I think if you you know, if you
- 11:21enjoy Chucky, it's worth checking out a totally different
- 11:25take on the character. Yeah, he's he is in a different
- 11:33form. Indeed.
- 11:37Well, since that's just kind of a brief overview, let me go
- 11:42through the quick scores. You are on the low end this time
- 11:47around with a franchise average of 5.775 or 5.8 if we want to
- 11:56make it simple. But that's rounding up the the
- 12:00real score is 5.775. I'm at the high end with a
- 12:045.875. So, so much, yeah, a 10th of a
- 12:11point higher than yours. And then the the show average is
- 12:155.825. So yeah, we're, we are so close
- 12:21to each other on this one. It's just interesting that we
- 12:25both got to our scores with just like slightly different
- 12:30perspectives. But then in terms of the tower,
- 12:35that puts it at #2 behind A Quiet place.
- 12:39So those of you keeping score at home?
- 12:42I mean, by half of a point it beats out James Bond and it's to
- 12:48think the volume of movies versus quality of James Bond
- 12:53probably makes this understandable.
- 12:56I I can stand by it. Yeah, Double O 7 is one of those
- 13:00franchises that because it has so many movies, it's kind of
- 13:05skewed and it makes sense that it would have really close to a
- 13:105 out of 10, whereas everything else that we have reviewed has
- 13:14been significantly shorter. One of these days we might
- 13:18tackle the MCU, and I wonder if it's also going to be somewhere
- 13:24in the Fives. Exactly 5 play now.
- 13:27Yeah, it's getting like I think the new Spider Man is going to
- 13:31be like the 36th movie, maybe 38th.
- 13:36Like it is the biggest franchise that I know about.
- 13:40I feel like that's a sure credit to the that franchise where it
- 13:47felt like, you know, being there when they started with Iron Man.
- 13:53It's it has kind of just inevitably grown because
- 13:58nobody's has said we got to stop to reboot.
- 14:04Maybe they'll do that now. And then I get thinking about
- 14:09like a horror franchise, especially something like
- 14:11Chucky, where towards the end they were spending 5 to $10
- 14:16million on a movie. And Marvel, I mean, they spend
- 14:22upwards of like $100 million on movies, even ones that stink.
- 14:28And so in my head, I'm like, you should be able to put out 10
- 14:33Chucky movies for the price of a single Marvel movie.
- 14:38And yet for some reason with with some of these horror
- 14:42franchises, we don't have as many movies.
- 14:47The the one that I'll think about all the time is Friday the
- 14:5013th, where you get just tons of them in the 80s and then a few
- 14:56in the 90s and then they seem to just kind of die out and I don't
- 14:59even remember when the last Friday the 13th.
- 15:03Was like like Jamie Lee Curtis came back for one.
- 15:08Maybe for Halloween. Yeah, she came back for those
- 15:10ones, Yeah. I get them all confused
- 15:13honestly. I mean, Halloween Friday and
- 15:19Nightmare on Elm Street, those are the three big slashers that
- 15:23people sometimes get confused because they do pretty much the
- 15:27same thing, but they are distinct and different ones.
- 15:32And of those three that I just named, the one that I am most
- 15:35excited to get to 1 Day is the Halloween franchise.
- 15:40And that's because the third movie ditched Michael Myers, the
- 15:46killer. Apparently, when the creator
- 15:49originally pitched it, he wanted it to be just various ideas of
- 15:54horror movies that could happen on Halloween night.
- 15:58Yeah. And so the third movie is called
- 16:02Season of the Witch. It has nothing to do with
- 16:05Michael Myers. When it came out, people hated
- 16:09it. Today, people seem to love it,
- 16:12and they seem to think like, wow, what kind of franchise
- 16:14would it have been if Halloween was always a different story?
- 16:18You know? Yeah.
- 16:21Oh well, maybe we'll get. To those exactly.
- 16:24I'm over here talking about other stuff.
- 16:26We we have a murderous doll to talk about.
- 16:32I think if there's any specifics that you want to touch on over
- 16:37all of them, I have one specific like what if that we could we
- 16:44could talk about. Well, the only big thing that
- 16:49that I can't get out of my head, despite as much as I'm intrigued
- 16:55by 2019's Child's Play, I don't think Mark Mark Hamill holds a
- 17:01candle to Brad Duriff's Chucky. Like Brad Duriff really is the
- 17:07better Chucky I. Think he definitely has made
- 17:13decisions with the voice and the screams really of Chucky to to
- 17:20make it a separate character. Like yeah I would agree.
- 17:24Mark Hamill. All of his accolades and credits
- 17:28aside, making Buddy into a Chucky is a tall task.
- 17:34I don't know that I would without knowing Brad Doris, name
- 17:38it originally. I still knew that.
- 17:40Well, Chucky screams when he attacks you, essentially.
- 17:45Yeah, with before I knew who Brad Duriff was, I knew what the
- 17:49voice of Chucky sounded like. And so he really is iconic.
- 17:56And again, like I am impressed with Mark Hamill's performance
- 18:02in Child's Play 2019. I think he did a lot better than
- 18:08I had anticipated him to do, but there's just no getting around
- 18:13it. Brad Dourif is the better Chucky
- 18:15for me. He's he's just the tops.
- 18:19Yeah, I think that would be the accurate.
- 18:24And then my top 4 human characters go OG Andy, including
- 18:31adult form when it's the same OG Andy actor Young Kyle.
- 18:37I just didn't get enough screen time with old Kyle to be able to
- 18:40say that she's, you know, still top of the charts.
- 18:45Of course Tiffany played by Oh my God, why did I forget her
- 18:51name? Jennifer Tilley.
- 18:52Thank you, Jennifer Tilley. As Tiffany playing Jennifer
- 18:56Tilley. Exactly.
- 18:58And then Brad Duriff's daughter. Oh yeah.
- 19:04Another one I have forgotten the name of.
- 19:07Nika. Fiona Durif, Nika Pierce is the
- 19:12character, but those are my top four humans.
- 19:16Like those are the ones that that I like the most.
- 19:20I I really did enjoy every time they were on the screen.
- 19:25I think if I go by the surprising humans, the twist
- 19:32with Charles Lee Ray probably made me appreciate more that
- 19:38Chucky is a serial killer because Brad Dorff was just
- 19:43called the serial killer. I didn't quite get that sense in
- 19:46the first one, but it's the first one where you're like, oh,
- 19:50of course he's going to kill everybody he meets.
- 19:53We get to cursive Chucky and it's like, oh, this dude was
- 19:58messed up. OK, Like he's he hits the bar of
- 20:03being a. A person within the universe
- 20:09instead of like foster dad. I don't even know his name.
- 20:14Foster mom. They were they were there to
- 20:17die. Andy.
- 20:19Yeah, I'd agree. Kyle was funny.
- 20:23She had her own kind of side arc.
- 20:25Yeah, I do think growing up and he was a little bit of a less
- 20:33than perfect person in the show, just another oddity like, OK,
- 20:40well, if we consider he's formed by his trauma, OK.
- 20:46Yeah, he's definitely got stains and scars.
- 20:49He's he's an adult. He's a human being, which to me
- 20:55adds to the charm. Like nobody comes out of this
- 20:58clean. I don't think I remember any
- 21:02other person in Child's Play 3. I know they tried to give Andy a
- 21:07girl. I don't.
- 21:10Yeah. That's right.
- 21:12There was the girlfriend. There was the little kid.
- 21:16Yeah. And then, of course, the nerdy
- 21:19friend who jumps on a grenade. And there's the bully.
- 21:24Yeah, they they had a lot of archetypes and not a lot of
- 21:30character. I think the the friend of theirs
- 21:34in Bride of Chucky, he was kind of funny.
- 21:38Oh, very funny. I, I liked him a lot.
- 21:41As second viewing I liked him even more.
- 21:43I was like, he's, he works. He works for me.
- 21:47Deserved A spectacular death and he got it.
- 21:50Yeah, congratulations. Oh my gosh, I loved his
- 21:53explosive death. It was so much fun.
- 21:58And then Tiffany, she was very remarkable in her debut and I
- 22:04was like, oh, this her friend that shows up and she kills him.
- 22:12He's not that much into like murder if I have to, where she
- 22:16is full bore straight ahead. Someone's in the way, you know,
- 22:20gotta kill him and. Yep, she'll slit a throat.
- 22:24She's into it. Well, you had said that you that
- 22:29something came up to you. Yeah, I.
- 22:31Want to hear it? Well, just in terms of like,
- 22:34I'll, I'll speak to it myself first.
- 22:40We didn't look at the television series, but we know that there
- 22:43are three seasons of Chucky that apparently include Andy and Kyle
- 22:47and maybe Nika. I, I, I don't know.
- 22:50We didn't watch it. Taking that aside, if it didn't
- 22:56happen, would I rather have another Charles Lee Ray Chucky
- 23:05or a new buddy as Chucky? Which of those two universes
- 23:12would I rather have interest in seeing?
- 23:16Or a secret third option, another reboot entirely.
- 23:22Sure. That's secret.
- 23:23That's I'm going to throw the third option.
- 23:26So which one would you? I have.
- 23:29I do think there was enough loose ends in the cult of Jackie
- 23:39that there were places to go. And obviously television series
- 23:45says, yes, we have places that we're heading.
- 23:49I do think I would like to see, if I remember right, Cult of
- 23:56Chucky, where they only had the directive video.
- 24:03I think it would be fun to. I don't think continuity really
- 24:11really was a foundational part of the Chucky series as such.
- 24:18Jump from what you have with Nika and the chuckies into
- 24:24whatever comes next as a full bore movie with Brad Dwarf and
- 24:33Nika and Jennifer Tilley like. So you want to return to Chucky
- 24:41Prime franchise? I think I enjoyed Seed of Chucky
- 24:46so much because it was insane. It didn't have to make sense.
- 24:54I'm a little bummed now that we bring it up.
- 24:57Then we never got to see what happened with the twins.
- 25:00Yeah, yeah, they came and they went, and it was an interesting
- 25:08perspective to add. And let's do it again.
- 25:12Let's let's. You're making multiple chuckies,
- 25:16so why not? We've got Internet voodoo on our
- 25:19side. Who else can become a doll?
- 25:24Yeah. Why not we?
- 25:26You know, we've found the best website we can.
- 25:29We can throw souls everywhere. 100% that would be my vote.
- 25:34I did. I didn't enjoy the reboot, but I
- 25:37would want to see Prime. I think I'm also with you on
- 25:42Prime, but I would want to make a Child's Play 4.
- 25:48I would want to go back to Child's Play 3.
- 25:51Not because I particularly liked that movie, I think that movie
- 25:55is terrible. But there is one idea that they
- 25:58never explored. And I kind of thought they were
- 26:02going to explore it in Cult of Chucky, but then they went the
- 26:05voodoo route. But that was when they're firing
- 26:10up the factory again and they're pulling the Chucky, the old
- 26:14Chucky doll away and blood drips into the plastic.
- 26:18I had said, oh, what if we have a bunch of chuckies, you know, a
- 26:24bunch of possessed dolls, all of them thinking that they are
- 26:29Charles Lee Ray. And all.
- 26:32Of yeah, or even if they are aware of them, they're like,
- 26:35you're a fake and I got to kill you.
- 26:37And and so like I want to return to prime Chucky universe.
- 26:44But now instead of voodoo allowing him to create his cult
- 26:48of Chucky, I want the blood to be what created them.
- 26:53And and not it being a, a thing that he's good with, but a thing
- 26:56that he would fight and get angry about, you know, Chucky V
- 27:01Chucky. I think that's where I would go.
- 27:04But realistically, I, I would give my money to the secret
- 27:11third option. If if someone else decided to do
- 27:14another child's play reboot and just got a new actor, went with
- 27:20a whole new idea, maybe they went with possession again,
- 27:24maybe not. Maybe they do something else
- 27:26entirely. Maybe.
- 27:28Maybe the kid just has so much love for the doll that the doll
- 27:33becomes alive. Yeah.
- 27:36I think that would be a secret third option.
- 27:40I do think it holds with the continuity is not necessary for
- 27:45Chucky to be a murderer. So Child's way 4 would be a
- 27:52branch to explore. You know, like Marvel Universe
- 27:57and Loki's whole bit. Yeah, there's precedent.
- 28:01Thanks to the MCU, we can do whatever we want with
- 28:05franchises. Yeah, I.
- 28:09I mean, it's not Chucky, but I do look forward to another
- 28:14instalment of Bond, no matter how it how it appears like.
- 28:20I know that they're trying to make it but.
- 28:23I might even get the video game. I.
- 28:25Think it's called First Light it like the trailer looks so good.
- 28:30It's essentially going to be a Kingsman but with Bond.
- 28:34And so I'm like yeah, let's go training day.
- 28:37I want to I want to be there for the first mission again.
- 28:42Yeah, yeah. And then I think about really
- 28:48other horror franchises and it does seem as though, and this is
- 28:56expected, but it does seem as though the ones that were in our
- 29:01childhood have run their course and are kind of dying off and
- 29:05new ones are coming in. It seems like possession is
- 29:10back. So, you know, we could have
- 29:13another Chucky because that's the supernatural is back in
- 29:18horror. Yeah, I think the reboot kind of
- 29:23had the right idea of if it's an AI personal robot, those exist.
- 29:29And yeah, if they went rogue, that would be a problem.
- 29:33I do think making the killer a, if it's possession a, a human
- 29:39that's doing it makes it scarier than if it was just like Mission
- 29:43Impossible rogue AI. It's like, yeah, yeah.
- 29:47But that's just like electricity.
- 29:49Can we just turn it off like? Yeah.
- 29:51Human. Sure you can turn off a human,
- 29:53but it's like it is less scary if it's disembodied.
- 30:00It feels like so making like a A some other appliance that's
- 30:07coming after people and killing them is just not as impressive.
- 30:11Yeah, I, I wish I could remember the name for it, but there is a
- 30:15cultural touchstone for strong emotions giving life to
- 30:22inanimate objects. And I'm, you know, the more I
- 30:25think about it, the more I'm like, I think that would be the
- 30:29route to go because we've seen the voodoo possession and that's
- 30:33not, even though Supernatural is kind of back in modern horror, I
- 30:39don't know if that would really connect with audiences.
- 30:42And AI was good, but then Megan did it better.
- 30:48So like, they were already outclassed, so why not look at
- 30:55and I'm this would be the time to write letters to correct me.
- 31:00But I think it's Japanese culture that believes that if
- 31:04you put enough strong emotion into an inanimate object, it
- 31:08develops a soul. And so, you know, having a doll
- 31:14that is 100% just a doll and then a kid loves it so fiercely.
- 31:21And then maybe the kid gets hit by a car and the doll comes to
- 31:26life to try to find the kid. And when it learns the kid is
- 31:29dead, it it decides to seek revenge and it doesn't
- 31:33understand. And so it's seeking revenge on
- 31:36everything. And I, I could see that having
- 31:40some potential. Otherwise, I think prime Chucky
- 31:45is superior to AI Chucky. AI did some crazy murders, but
- 31:57yeah, I think having it be a human just adds that touch of,
- 32:06of, of dread. Like it's an AI.
- 32:10You could have safeguards, you just turn them back on and
- 32:12everything's fine. If you have a serial killer in a
- 32:15doll's body, like, there's nothing to redeem them to stop
- 32:20killing people. All right, I want to take you
- 32:24into my own twisted brain. We, I've said it every episode,
- 32:31including this one. The the brilliant thing about
- 32:35this franchise is the fact that dolls don't kill people.
- 32:40So the question that I am raising to you is what does it
- 32:45take for you to believe your kids if they say that one of
- 32:49their toys is alive and is bad? I mean before Chucky it may have
- 33:02been different. Like after Chucky it definitely
- 33:05feels like tell me more of what is bad about it.
- 33:12If it were a doll, I think, I don't know.
- 33:16I think I would get creeped out if they reported that the doll
- 33:21was saying things XY or Z, 'cause I am definitely not a
- 33:27believer in the ghost realm of whatever, whatever this planet
- 33:35is. So possession doesn't seem like
- 33:40a thing that would actually be. I would, I would dig for what
- 33:46what could really be happening. It's like, yeah, a doll doesn't
- 33:53live. That wouldn't kill people.
- 33:55It would be a little tough to convince me.
- 33:59Mm hmm. But a video camera and locking
- 34:03up the doll would definitely happen.
- 34:06Now, how much of the video camera would you have to watch
- 34:09before you finally believed that it was alive?
- 34:13It would have to move on its own.
- 34:16See, because that wasn't enough to convince.
- 34:19Oh yeah, his brother-in-law. He watched through this thing
- 34:23all the way up to current time 0 and now it's oh, it's behind
- 34:28you. Wow.
- 34:30So we're ludicrous, but still funny.
- 34:33And I still liked it. You know, I also don't know if I
- 34:39could answer the question. It's my own Dane question.
- 34:41And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what it would take
- 34:45for me to believe my kids because when my kids were
- 34:49significantly younger and they would say that their doll said
- 34:54this or their toy said that or their toy feels this way.
- 34:58A little part of me would have like a little chill go down my
- 35:01spine where I was like, is it happening?
- 35:05Do it like, has it happened? But I live in the real world.
- 35:10And so I was always like, no, toys don't.
- 35:14Toys aren't alive. Yeah, I think I could rattle off
- 35:18a list of things that I don't think are real.
- 35:21Bigfoot. Yeah.
- 35:22Yeah, et cetera. But still getting it from your
- 35:26kids, hearing it from your kids might send a small chill down
- 35:30your spine to be like what if? Could be, I guess I, I don't
- 35:38know. I think it would be surprising
- 35:41if something came alive that was not meant to be alive, that
- 35:45yeah, that would change my perspective on a lot of things.
- 35:51But we're also entering the age of AI and so like 2019, Chucky
- 35:57becomes more and more realistic everyday.
- 36:03The only thing that we have not done for this franchise, it's
- 36:09just one of the stats. I know we're here way late in
- 36:14the episode, but in case you wanted to hear it, the combined
- 36:18budget for the entire franchise was $96 million, less than $100
- 36:26million to make 8 movies. And in the return, keeping in
- 36:32mind that we do not have return numbers for two of these movies,
- 36:37the return was 220.9 million, nearly 221 million.
- 36:46So more than double, well over double what they spent to make
- 36:52this thing. Yeah, I don't know how much they
- 36:55would have made, but yeah. Or from the from the home ones.
- 36:58I'm trying to think. I don't know that I ever heard
- 37:01of them before watching the franchise, so I don't know if
- 37:05they are classics by way of the community or not.
- 37:11I mean, for me, Curse of Chucky is just because it surprised me
- 37:15at how scary and fun it was. But Cult of Chucky, I would be
- 37:21surprised if anyone even knew it came out.
- 37:23Yeah. Well, they did.
- 37:28They did decent age. I'm like, feel like movies are
- 37:34so much. At least Marvel movies are so
- 37:36much more, $100 million would be so much money to make one movie.
- 37:43And that's regularly their stuff.
- 37:46They they primarily get that. OK.
- 37:51In terms of other media, obviously we talked about the
- 37:55movies. There are some.
- 37:59Well, there are two short films that we also skipped because
- 38:03they're short films. I didn't even know they existed
- 38:06until I just read this now. In 2005 there was something
- 38:10called Chuckies Vacation Slides. I now I got to take a look at
- 38:17and see when Bride of Chucky was.
- 38:19That was 1998 and then Seed of Chucky was 2004.
- 38:24So maybe this was like a sequel to Seed of Chucky.
- 38:29Maybe it had the twins. I don't know.
- 38:32I never saw it. And then in 2013 we had the
- 38:38short film Chucky Invades, and that would have been the same
- 38:41year as Curse of Chucky. I didn't watch the TV series.
- 38:48I don't know that I would watch these short films, but if
- 38:52they're 10 minutes, maybe, yeah. Yeah, I might look them up on
- 38:55YouTube to see if they're available because they might be
- 38:59fairly short. And then of course, the TV
- 39:00series from 2021 to 2024. And I thought there was another
- 39:06season coming, but maybe it is ended.
- 39:10There was the video game Chucky slash and dash in 2013.
- 39:15Plus, I'm pretty sure Chucky is a playable character in Dead by
- 39:19Daylight. So he exists there and then
- 39:24books and comics. That's the that's the extent of
- 39:29his his reach. He is a long you know, he
- 39:34exists. He's he's still around.
- 39:36He's still making stuff. I think the the fact that I
- 39:41identified Charles Lee Ray as a person in the universe makes it
- 39:46easier to say, well, let's find out more.
- 39:50Let's see what other things Chucky would do in comics and
- 39:55books and that sort of thing where he's not.
- 39:59He's just three-dimensional enough.
- 40:03He's not like a good three-dimensional person.
- 40:05He's just a murderer that has a back story and has a future.
- 40:11And kind of I do think there's a slight difference between the
- 40:17human and Chucky because Chucky as the doll definitely feels a
- 40:22little younger. Like just we don't hear much
- 40:28from Charles Lee Ray as his himself.
- 40:33And when we hear all this other stuff from Chucky, it feels like
- 40:38there's a difference, even if it's just imagined.
- 40:43Yeah. No, I, I do think there is.
- 40:47I I don't think I've ever mentioned this, but starting
- 40:51with Child's Play 2, and I don't know how long this lasted, but
- 40:57Brad Durif would speak a little slower and kind of drag words
- 41:02out, and that was specifically for the puppet.
- 41:06Because if he. Talked too fast, his voice would
- 41:10lose lip sync, so he'd have to talk a little slower.
- 41:15But that created this really interesting way of speaking that
- 41:20really did fit for the character and make him kind of unique.
- 41:24You know, you don't really notice that he's talking slower
- 41:28until someone points it out. And then you're like, oh, yeah,
- 41:31he is kind of dragging out some of these words.
- 41:33And that does kind of add to the character and the personality.
- 41:39The television series ended in September of 2024.
- 41:44It was It was cancelled so. But in February of 2026, so last
- 41:53month, Jennifer Tilley confirmed that she is going to be
- 41:58returning as Tiffany in a future Chucky.
- 42:03So it sounds as though if we are getting more Chucky, it will be
- 42:07in the Prime franchise and not the reboot.
- 42:12I honestly think they do don't have to do much to make it a
- 42:15good Chucky movie because they you really just need a bunch of
- 42:21people to run into them without knowing that he's a murder doll.
- 42:27If that's without Nika, OK. Like I do feel like she would
- 42:32have to. If you do want continuity, then
- 42:35yes, she's there. But yeah, I think Chucky himself
- 42:40says that, right? He's like.
- 42:42I mean, he is her. He put his main soul into Nika
- 42:47so. I think it was brighter seed of
- 42:49Chucky. He's, he makes some sort of like
- 42:534th wall reference and like, you know, you don't have to do,
- 42:58don't have to work so hard on the script or something like
- 43:00that. Yes, that's true.
- 43:03We don't. We don't need continuity.
- 43:06We can, we can keep whatever we liked and ditch whatever we
- 43:09don't in the the sequel. It does kind of make the reboot
- 43:15a little bit sad because it's like, yeah, like not only is
- 43:18that when the odd one out, it never got a sequel, it never got
- 43:23a discussion for a sequel. But I'm glad that that it's a
- 43:30franchise that is still considered active even though we
- 43:36haven't had anything for two years.
- 43:39But, you know, people consider Freddy Krueger to be an active
- 43:44franchise, and we haven't seen anything from him and I think
- 43:47over a decade, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
- 43:51Yeah, you know, we could. And there are podcasts who have
- 43:58made their entire thing horror movies because there are so many
- 44:04horror franchises out there. Coming up soon, there's going to
- 44:09be a reboot of The Mummy, the original Mummy, the horror
- 44:14franchise, The Mummy, not the Brendan Fraser action comedy
- 44:20franchise, but going all the way back.
- 44:22And so like even some of the oldest franchises are coming
- 44:26back and they are never truly finished.
- 44:29Frankenstein came back. So I imagine Child's Play or
- 44:35Chucky will come back one day and I hope that we will return
- 44:39to it and I imagine we will hit some of the other horror
- 44:42franchises, but not immediately. In fact, we're taking a a pretty
- 44:49hard shift away from horror, and our next franchise is going to
- 44:55be the Lethal Weapon franchise. We're going into action comedy,
- 45:00baby. I think it'll be enjoyable.
- 45:03I mean, I haven't heard much of how well it's aged.
- 45:10I do think I enjoyed it when I saw the TV recorded VHS whenever
- 45:17my dad wanted to turn it on and I thought they were funny and I
- 45:23thought that it was. It's kind of like Die Hard, you
- 45:26know? It's action and a little bit of
- 45:28comedy. I saw all four of these shortly
- 45:34after high school. I moved in with my older brother
- 45:38and that was one of the first things he wanted to watch with
- 45:41me. He was like, I love these
- 45:43movies, let's watch all four of them.
- 45:46And so I, I really dug them. I think they got like I, if I
- 45:52remember correctly, I had fun with the first one and then I
- 45:55felt like they got better and better.
- 45:58And I think the 4th 1 was kind of a stinker.
- 46:00But we'll find out together. We'll get to find out together.
- 46:06Let's do it. Exactly.
- 46:08So next week we're going to 1987's Lethal Weapon.
- 46:13This is your chance, dear audience to to run and grab a
- 46:17copy so that way you are prepared for that discussion.
- 46:21Library might carry it, That's always another option.
- 46:24Yep, that's a usually the freest option because you can just run
- 46:28in there and say, hey, I want to borrow this.
- 46:30And sometimes they'll even let you borrow ADVD or Blu-ray
- 46:34player like your local library is a wonder of modern media
- 46:41preservation. So make sure to check that out.
- 46:44All right, well, do you want to take us out of here for the last
- 46:48time for this Chucky franchise? Chucky.
- 46:51I mean, I don't feel like it's a what do you call it unique to
- 46:57Chucky, our sign off. But thank you audience for
- 47:01joining us today. It was our wrap up of Chucky.
- 47:05I don't know that I'll watch it again, but hey, maybe the
- 47:09whatever Jennifer Tilley is preparing will be a return to
- 47:13Prime Chucky form not having watched the television series.
- 47:18Maybe that Prime is also fun. I guess he may be watching the
- 47:23Prime series. Someone would have to convince
- 47:25me, but. I was going to say, it's got to
- 47:27be available on one of the few platforms that I have access to,
- 47:32yeah. But thanks for listening, if you
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- 47:58There may be some extra recordings so we can take a
- 48:03break here in 2026, but we will continue moving forward.
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- 48:17If they enjoy semi nostalgic trips down past cultural
- 48:23touchstone franchises, send them our way.
- 48:27We got a big one coming up. With Lethal Weapon or which?
- 48:32Yeah, with Lethal Weapon, that's a touchstone.
- 48:36Like that's AI, don't know it's 80s.
- 48:39You're you're if you are of the young side, your parents
- 48:42definitely would have watched it.
- 48:44Your older siblings definitely would have watched it.
- 48:46Like it was a pretty big deal franchise.
- 48:50Felt like it, but go ahead if you have any questions or want
- 48:54to suggest anything in the future.
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- 49:05And for the last time, watch your ankles with Chucky.
- 49:09Goodbye, bye.