Latest / Conspiracy! The Show / The Charlie Kirk Shooting Conspiracies Pt. 2
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Wait, true insurance spit. I'm true. I'm a chestnut statue
- 0:15Speaker 1: that is.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
- 0:36Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me his co host this week,
- 0:38Speaker 2: Gotdom expatans here. How's it going, man.
- 0:40Speaker 3: It's going all right considering that I'm a hologram.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw you fall through that table. Didn't
- 0:47Speaker 2: look normal. Didn't look normal at all.
- 0:49Speaker 3: The mic is inside of my head right now, that's
- 0:52Speaker 3: what it sounds so good.
- 0:53Speaker 2: We are back to talking about Charlie Kirk conspiracies. Just
- 0:58Speaker 2: when you think you're out, they pull you right back in.
- 1:00Speaker 3: No, this really shows how much we care, because this
- 1:03Speaker 3: is the most cancelable conspiracy theory subjects in recent memory
- 1:07Speaker 3: that I can dig of absolutely, and yet here we
- 1:10Speaker 3: are again braving the airwaves just because there was so
- 1:13Speaker 3: much more information that we felt that you the listener
- 1:15Speaker 3: needed to hear. And there's a lot of shit. There's
- 1:17Speaker 3: a lot of shit going on.
- 1:19Speaker 2: We are definitely rolling the dice covering this shit.
- 1:23Speaker 3: But if we do forty five episodes about our FK,
- 1:25Speaker 3: then you know we ought at least be even handed.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, this deserves just as many episodes.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I mean not really, but yeah, there are.
- 1:35Speaker 3: We'll see what comes out. You know. This is all
- 1:38Speaker 3: just stuff that's hit the internet since the last show.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how the news moves these days. There's
- 1:45Speaker 2: almost no such thing as waiting long enough to cover
- 1:49Speaker 2: a story because it every it just changes so goddamn fast.
- 1:52Speaker 3: It's like a bar fight, you know. Just get in
- 1:54Speaker 3: where you can, yeah, start swinging.
- 1:57Speaker 2: So a lot of what we're talking about to is
- 2:01Speaker 2: from videos that are posted out there on the internet.
- 2:05Speaker 2: The YouTube's the Twitter currently known as X's things like that.
- 2:09Speaker 2: And I think this first one we're going to talk
- 2:11Speaker 2: about might actually be the most compelling theory.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Yeah, I full on believe this one. Yeah.
- 2:18Speaker 2: The theory is that the entry wound we all saw
- 2:23Speaker 2: and witnessed on that video is actually an exit wound,
- 2:27Speaker 2: and that he was not shot in the neck. He
- 2:30Speaker 2: was shot in the back of the head and the
- 2:32Speaker 2: bullet entered the back of his head and came out
- 2:35Speaker 2: through his neck, and what we actually saw was the exit.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Wound because the entrance wounds are neat and exit wounds
- 2:43Speaker 3: are messy. Just as a rule of thumb.
- 2:45Speaker 2: And this video that we'll link to it's about eight
- 2:50Speaker 2: minutes long, and I think the guy makes a pretty
- 2:53Speaker 2: compelling case. They slow the video down and you can
- 2:56Speaker 2: see when Charlie Kirk he kind of lurches forward, and
- 3:01Speaker 2: when that happens, you see a little splatter of what
- 3:04Speaker 2: looks like blood come from the right side of his head,
- 3:09Speaker 2: which the prevailing theory right now is that he was
- 3:11Speaker 2: shot directly in the neck. But this video, when it
- 3:16Speaker 2: slowed down, really does make it look like he got
- 3:18Speaker 2: shot in the back of the head and the bullet
- 3:20Speaker 2: came out through his neck. And there's also it looks
- 3:24Speaker 2: like someone above him shooting, as opposed to wherever this
- 3:28Speaker 2: person who is alleged to have shot him was.
- 3:31Speaker 3: The alleged to the Tyler Robinson angle is like in
- 3:34Speaker 3: front of him at a slight angle, but this is
- 3:37Speaker 3: almost the exact opposite direction behind. Yeah, is the theory.
- 3:42Speaker 2: And unless the video is doctored in some way, there
- 3:46Speaker 2: is what appears to be a muzzle flash of some
- 3:49Speaker 2: sort from that area right when the shot is fired.
- 3:53Speaker 3: And the little speck of blood really sells it. I mean,
- 3:56Speaker 3: what is that the world's luckiest fly? Yeah? Tell me
- 3:59Speaker 3: that is? Yeah?
- 4:00Speaker 2: Yeah, the video is very compelling.
- 4:03Speaker 3: And it's a gun guy. This is a guy that
- 4:04Speaker 3: fucks with guns, shoots guns all day, thinks about guns
- 4:07Speaker 3: all day. This is you know, it's like, you want
- 4:11Speaker 3: to know what's wrong with the animal business, you talk
- 4:13Speaker 3: to a vegan, they'll tell you. You know, this is like
- 4:15Speaker 3: the fucking guy to ask. This is the you know,
- 4:18Speaker 3: similar to our next bit about Charlie Kirk's adamantium skeleton.
- 4:22Speaker 3: You know, these are the people that would know.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and this guy he has in the video about
- 4:28Speaker 2: a thousand guns behind him. Yes, he's wearing a hat
- 4:32Speaker 2: that says abolish the ATF. And I bet it's not
- 4:35Speaker 2: for the same reasons I would like to abolish the ATF.
- 4:38Speaker 2: So it seems like he knows a thing or two
- 4:41Speaker 2: about guns.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Conspiracies make strange bedfellows.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Yeah, and people will just have to watch the video,
- 4:49Speaker 2: but I think it's very compelling. It does to me
- 4:52Speaker 2: look like Charlie Kirk was shot in my head from
- 4:54Speaker 2: a different angle.
- 4:55Speaker 3: And this is again getting ahead of ourselves. Where's the
- 4:57Speaker 3: fucking autopsy. That's the kind of thing you could very
- 5:00Speaker 3: easily determined with a publicly available autopsy.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Yeah, the lack of an autopsy is very strange. It's
- 5:08Speaker 2: super duper strange. And we'll even talk about another theory
- 5:11Speaker 2: later where a woman is addressing people claiming there's no
- 5:16Speaker 2: autopsy and she just goes wrong. In a case like this,
- 5:19Speaker 2: there's an automatic autopsy, all right, Are you basing that
- 5:22Speaker 2: on your past experience, because if so, the lack of
- 5:27Speaker 2: an autopsy here should be weird to you, I would think,
- 5:30Speaker 2: But we'll get to that.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I don't know why I haven't heard more about that
- 5:33Speaker 3: just in the general chatter.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it would be a really easy
- 5:39Speaker 2: way to clear a lot of this up to just
- 5:41Speaker 2: release an autopsy. Maybe they'll do it twenty five years
- 5:44Speaker 2: from now, like they did with Elvis, so they have
- 5:46Speaker 2: time to figure out the lie that they're going to
- 5:48Speaker 2: put in the autopsy first.
- 5:51Speaker 3: This is like the ultimate cover up strategies be fause
- 5:54Speaker 3: take the time to figure out your lie and wait
- 5:56Speaker 3: till people don't care anymore. Yeah.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, Foia, this someday when I'm in my
- 6:02Speaker 2: seventies and Connors in your fifties, something like that.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Something like that, Hey, Jinz Conspiracy the show twenty fifty.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to the bottom of this someday,
- 6:12Speaker 2: not today, probably not this year, but.
- 6:15Speaker 3: We'll both have holes in our throats and robot boxes. Yeah,
- 6:19Speaker 3: show me the evidence.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Hopefully I have all faked teeth
- 6:24Speaker 2: by then too. I had to go to the dentist
- 6:27Speaker 2: again this weekend. I'm fucking over it.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Man, get some veneers in there, man, t teeth.
- 6:32Speaker 2: I want some fucking imp if I get even moderately rich.
- 6:36Speaker 2: First thing I'm doing taking all these fucking teeth out,
- 6:39Speaker 2: replacing them with implants day one.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't been to the dentists in the about
- 6:43Speaker 3: fifteen years, so I bet there's a I bet there's
- 6:45Speaker 3: a pot of gold waiting for me.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Yeah, my teeth are a fucking nightmare. But let's get
- 6:51Speaker 2: back to Charlie Kirk. This video again. We'll link to it,
- 6:55Speaker 2: people can watch it. I don't know what else there
- 6:57Speaker 2: is to say, except I think they make a pretty
- 6:59Speaker 2: good case that this bullet came from somewhere else, which
- 7:03Speaker 2: always in a situation like this, Not that there's a
- 7:06Speaker 2: lot of situations like this, but if this bullet came
- 7:09Speaker 2: from somewhere else, who the fuck is this Tyler Robinson guy?
- 7:13Speaker 3: Yeah? Is he just the MK ultra Patsy. Did they
- 7:16Speaker 3: just get this poor fucker to get his grandpa's rifle
- 7:18Speaker 3: and walk along the roof? You know, because.
- 7:20Speaker 2: There is video of a guy running off the roof.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Maybe there's weirdness with that video too, But yeah, who
- 7:28Speaker 2: the fuck is Tyler Robinson? If there was another shooter
- 7:31Speaker 2: in the bushes, like this video kind of shows there
- 7:35Speaker 2: is a very weirdly placed bush, It's.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Like on the roof of a building. Yeah, roof bush.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't not look like there's a guy crouching
- 7:43Speaker 2: behind it with a gun.
- 7:44Speaker 3: But yeah, and if you are gonna mind control of Patsy,
- 7:48Speaker 3: you want someone with Everything we're learning about Tyler Robinson
- 7:51Speaker 3: was that he had a confused, mercurial self identity. That
- 7:54Speaker 3: seems like the exact right candidate that I would want
- 7:57Speaker 3: to fucking add another personality into. There seems to be
- 8:00Speaker 3: plenty of room for one.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wonder if this was some sort
- 8:04Speaker 2: of set up. Maybe they knew Tyler Robinson was going
- 8:08Speaker 2: to try and pull this off ahead of time.
- 8:10Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, if maybe those text messages are real,
- 8:12Speaker 3: he's just incriminating himself all over discord. Yeah, and they
- 8:16Speaker 3: you know, they found out through the Palenteer back end.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking nssay tipped them off.
- 8:22Speaker 3: We'll collab with you on that one. Yeah, yeah, I
- 8:24Speaker 3: don't know.
- 8:25Speaker 2: This video to me raises way more questions about what
- 8:29Speaker 2: happened to Charlie Kirk.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think very legitimate questions. And also, if
- 8:34Speaker 3: you remember the JFK back into the Left sequence, this
- 8:37Speaker 3: is a real back into the Left type conspiracy video.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Lots of slow motion, lots of frame by frame, you know,
- 8:44Speaker 3: it's kind of a classico style.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely has Zapruder film vibes. But if the
- 8:50Speaker 2: Zapruder film was filmed in super crisp HD, which it
- 8:54Speaker 2: was not, I've heard that comparison made like the Zapruder film,
- 8:57Speaker 2: you know, we've seen people killed in public like this,
- 9:01Speaker 2: not like this. Prutifim is an easy watch compared to
- 9:05Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk that was FPS.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Yeah, the Charlie Kirk video is fucking brutal, But I
- 9:10Speaker 2: don't know, watch it, just watch it a link to it.
- 9:13Speaker 3: They blur out the horror phone they especially awful parts,
- 9:17Speaker 3: so that's nice of them.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and they blur out his face for some reason,
- 9:21Speaker 2: It's like that, what's that doing. You're still showing the
- 9:24Speaker 2: entry and exit wounds.
- 9:26Speaker 3: I guess to not see the human pain of it all,
- 9:30Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, yeah, I can appreciate that.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. If Charlie Kirk fake to this,
- 9:35Speaker 2: he is a fantastic actor. Because that's one of the
- 9:37Speaker 2: theories too, that this was just all a hoax, and
- 9:39Speaker 2: it's like, man, Charlie Kirk knows how to pretend to
- 9:42Speaker 2: take a bullet.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Yeah, he fell down, He did the slow fall on
- 9:47Speaker 3: his chair and everything.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked realistic. I don't know why I'm saying that.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I haven't seen tons of videos of.
- 9:53Speaker 3: Better than every jet I saw in my high school
- 9:55Speaker 3: drama classes, I'll say that, yeah, better than mercutio.
- 9:58Speaker 2: I am a little desensitized to images of death because
- 10:02Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever told you this story,
- 10:04Speaker 2: but my grandfather was a Peoria County Sheriff's deputy and
- 10:10Speaker 2: when he retired, someone in the crime lab owed him
- 10:13Speaker 2: a favor, and they repaid that favor by giving him
- 10:17Speaker 2: a stack of crime scene photos that were all black
- 10:21Speaker 2: and white. And these photos were just laying around my
- 10:25Speaker 2: childhood home for years and years and years. Friends would
- 10:27Speaker 2: come over and I'd be like, you want to see
- 10:28Speaker 2: something fucking crazy, And it was pictures of like suicides,
- 10:34Speaker 2: people who died in car accidents, just like.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Oh my god, how old were you?
- 10:39Speaker 2: Ah, I would have been like eight nine something like that, and.
- 10:44Speaker 3: You're on four chan before four chan. Yeah.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And the craziest thing was they were all black and white, So.
- 10:49Speaker 3: I don't like the cinematography of that. Yeah.
- 10:53Speaker 2: I would look at them and just imagine what it
- 10:55Speaker 2: looked like in color. There was one picture I can
- 10:58Speaker 2: still see it. It was a suicide. Someone had committed
- 11:02Speaker 2: suicide with a shotgun. And I still remember the picture.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I remember thinking the person probably had red hair, was
- 11:10Speaker 2: probably wearing a green sweater. That's how much I stared
- 11:13Speaker 2: at this picture. And I can still see it. It's
- 11:16Speaker 2: one of the most horrifying pictures I've ever seen. Yeah, sure,
- 11:19Speaker 2: it's someone who just shot themselves with a shotgun, like
- 11:23Speaker 2: one eye is down by their mouth, like it's that
- 11:26Speaker 2: fucked up. And I just relentlessly stared at that picture
- 11:30Speaker 2: as a kid for like hours.
- 11:32Speaker 3: This is crucial, Adam Todd brownlowre It sure is. This
- 11:36Speaker 3: explains everything.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why when someone texted me and was like,
- 11:40Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's dead and I was like, you sure, it
- 11:43Speaker 2: doesn't say he's dead. They were like, go watch the
- 11:45Speaker 2: video and I was like, can do don't you worry?
- 11:47Speaker 2: And even for me, I was like, goddamn, that was
- 11:49Speaker 2: a bit much, Jesus, this.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Is why he can't. You can't resist the genocide or
- 11:54Speaker 3: a beheading or a suicide or any kind of side U.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Yeah, when the al Qaeda beheading video that went around
- 12:01Speaker 2: in the mid two thousands came out, watch that immediately.
- 12:04Speaker 3: I think that was fake. Though. My policy with Gore
- 12:08Speaker 3: is when I google beheaded man, in my brain, I
- 12:11Speaker 3: like to have zero results. Yeah, to have nothing on file.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Yeah, that ship has sailed for me. That's fine, I'll recover.
- 12:19Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this next insane theory. I
- 12:23Speaker 2: forgot to bring this up on the last episode. One
- 12:27Speaker 2: of the articles we linked to in the notes for
- 12:30Speaker 2: the last episode addresses the question of why if Charlie
- 12:34Speaker 2: Kirk was shot in the neck with such a powerful rifle,
- 12:37Speaker 2: which a thirty to six is a very powerful rifle,
- 12:40Speaker 2: why did that bullet not go through his neck and
- 12:44Speaker 2: hit some of the bystanders behind him.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Well, you've heard of the magic bullet, meet the magic neck.
- 12:51Speaker 2: That is kind of the explanation we got. Charlie Kirk
- 12:54Speaker 2: just has magic bones of steel.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Which I get it. You like your guy, he's your guy,
- 13:00Speaker 3: you think he's cool, but you gotta live in reality.
- 13:04Speaker 2: This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
- 13:07Speaker 3: If Bernie Sanders got shot, I wouldn't be like, Well,
- 13:09Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders's titanium spine stopped him from bleeding out sooner.
- 13:14Speaker 2: This is a quote from one of Charlie Kirk's people.
- 13:18Speaker 2: It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed.
- 13:22Speaker 2: His bone was so healthy and the density was so
- 13:26Speaker 2: impressive that he's like the man of steel. It should
- 13:29Speaker 2: have just gone through and through. It likely would have
- 13:32Speaker 2: killed those standing behind him too, But it didn't go through.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Charlie's body stopped it. End quote. Fucking what how? Why
- 13:41Speaker 2: were his bones this strong?
- 13:43Speaker 3: Tell me that. Have you ever seen an episode of
- 13:45Speaker 3: MythBusters where they shoot the ballistics cell with the bones inside?
- 13:48Speaker 2: Come on, they do that in this video too. It's
- 13:51Speaker 2: full disclosure alert. This video is an episode of Info Wars.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Broken Clock is Right twice a day and it's not.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Jones used to be on point of about Waco and shit,
- 14:01Speaker 3: you know you got to give him one every once
- 14:02Speaker 3: in a while.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, the fucking National Inquirer saw the murder of Bill
- 14:06Speaker 2: Cosby's son. Sometimes shit like that happens.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they ran the article that ended in those motherfuckers
- 14:14Speaker 2: getting arrested. Crazy, but this is just dumb. It is
- 14:19Speaker 2: so fucking dumb. The guy who talks about it on
- 14:22Speaker 2: Info Wars, which this isn't Alex Jones point, it's someone
- 14:27Speaker 2: who appeared on Alex Jones podcasts point, and you can
- 14:30Speaker 2: tell he's also very much a gun guy, and he's like, listen,
- 14:34Speaker 2: the gun that shot Charlie Kirk allegedly can penetrate elk
- 14:39Speaker 2: bone from up to five hundred yards away, and he
- 14:42Speaker 2: brings that up because elk have much stronger and denser
- 14:46Speaker 2: bones than people, because elk weigh up to one thousand pounds,
- 14:51Speaker 2: so they need to have very strong bones. So no
- 14:54Speaker 2: matter how strong Charlie Kirk's bones were, they're not fucking
- 14:58Speaker 2: elk bones, and they're not stopping a thirty six shell
- 15:02Speaker 2: from what this was like two hundred yards away.
- 15:04Speaker 3: I think Yeah, if it weighs half a Hyundai accent
- 15:07Speaker 3: and it's still and that's getting fucked up, you know.
- 15:10Speaker 2: And I think this actually adds a little credence to
- 15:15Speaker 2: the first theory we talked about, which is that he
- 15:17Speaker 2: was shot from a different direction, because why did no
- 15:20Speaker 2: one behind him get hit? Maybe the answer where the
- 15:22Speaker 2: bullet came from. Yeah, because the bullet, if you watched
- 15:26Speaker 2: that first video, the trajectory is if it went anywhere,
- 15:29Speaker 2: it was going to go straight into the ground after
- 15:31Speaker 2: it hit Charlie Kirk because it's that extreme of an angle.
- 15:35Speaker 2: If they missed Charlie Kirk, it was just going to
- 15:37Speaker 2: fire into the ground.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Yeah. So this reminds me. One thing I didn't put
- 15:40Speaker 3: in the notes, but I did see was a surprising
- 15:42Speaker 3: amount of people just milling about in the tent after
- 15:45Speaker 3: this all happened. Yeah, what is a very active crime scene.
- 15:49Speaker 3: You know, could have been someone's job to in the
- 15:51Speaker 3: mixt of the Hulla balloo goo grab a thirty six
- 15:54Speaker 3: shell out of the soil or whatever, you know.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's also I don't think we talked about
- 16:00Speaker 2: missing SD cards. There were SD cards that were taken
- 16:04Speaker 2: from a camera that was inside the tent and they
- 16:07Speaker 2: explain that also, they were like, oh, it was just
- 16:10Speaker 2: someone who was worried that, you know, someone would come
- 16:13Speaker 2: along and steal them. It's like someone did come along
- 16:15Speaker 2: and steal them.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Yeah. I was about to say, I could totally see
- 16:19Speaker 3: that being some kind of like a patriot, let's say,
- 16:22Speaker 3: taking it upon himself, deputizing himself to be you know,
- 16:26Speaker 3: SD card collector.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's very possible.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Again, well it could have been a goodman spook.
- 16:32Speaker 2: But again, he was hitting the neck. According to the
- 16:37Speaker 2: official version of events, and it's also brought up in
- 16:41Speaker 2: this video, if it hit any bone after being shot
- 16:44Speaker 2: in the neck, it's going to hit like a vertebrae,
- 16:47Speaker 2: and those are some of the most fragile bones in
- 16:49Speaker 2: the human body. So that is definitely not going to
- 16:54Speaker 2: stop a bullet from coming out the backside of a person.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Maybe now your neck, Yeah, I guess I don't have
- 17:00Speaker 2: a neck of steel like Charlie Kirk. There's a demonstration
- 17:03Speaker 2: in this video where they I don't want to know
- 17:06Speaker 2: where they got it, but they strap a human bone
- 17:09Speaker 2: to the front of a mannequin and they shoot it
- 17:12Speaker 2: with the thirty out six and that bone fucking explodes.
- 17:16Speaker 3: This today's edition of Info Wars is brought to you
- 17:18Speaker 3: by Real human Bones dot Com.
- 17:21Speaker 2: And the bullet goes through the dummy and fires into
- 17:26Speaker 2: the wall behind him. So yeah, Alex Jones wants to
- 17:30Speaker 2: know if there's an autopsy, and I guess I do too.
- 17:33Speaker 2: I want to see the autopsy report if there is one,
- 17:36Speaker 2: because again, very easy way to put a lot of
- 17:38Speaker 2: this to rest would be to just release that autopsy.
- 17:42Speaker 3: And I think if it had been released, we would know.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I don't think there's one floating around there that we
- 17:47Speaker 2: just haven't found yet.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Yeah, And I understand the concept of an ongoing investigation,
- 17:52Speaker 3: and I can appreciate in terms of internal matters, perhaps
- 17:56Speaker 3: the public not being entitled to every single piece of
- 17:58Speaker 3: information at the absolute moment that it comes across somebody's desk.
- 18:02Speaker 3: But it has been weeks now, and I think people
- 18:06Speaker 3: deserve to know. I mean, if you want to solve
- 18:08Speaker 3: this thing, really, do we want to discount all the
- 18:10Speaker 3: little gum shoes out there looking into this shit on
- 18:13Speaker 3: your behalf?
- 18:14Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, And I think it's been made pretty
- 18:18Speaker 2: clear that this administration, this version of the American government, however,
- 18:23Speaker 2: you want to call it. They're perfectly fine with releasing
- 18:26Speaker 2: information even though an investigation is ongoing. They told us
- 18:30Speaker 2: this guy's ideology before they even found him.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well because there's a chance we could make
- 18:35Speaker 3: them look trans so right.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, if that's going to be their excuse,
- 18:40Speaker 2: Oh it's an ongoing investigation, shut the fuck up.
- 18:43Speaker 3: Yeah you don't care about that.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a reason I'm accepting from this administration.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Also use codects for twenty percent off here Alex Jones
- 18:52Speaker 2: war bonds in the Info Wars store. Did you watch
- 18:56Speaker 2: enough of that episode to get to that part? No?
- 18:58Speaker 3: I did not. Is are you really selling Alex Jones
- 19:01Speaker 3: war bonds?
- 19:02Speaker 2: I think they're basically gift certificates that you can use
- 19:05Speaker 2: in his store. But for one hundred dollars you get
- 19:09Speaker 2: one hundred and ten dollars to spuck bed in the store.
- 19:12Speaker 2: So you almost can't afford not to buy Alex Jones
- 19:16Speaker 2: war bonds. If I'm being completely honest, I.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Could stuck up on my anti globalist coffee. Yeah. Yeah,
- 19:23Speaker 3: he's got a growing a rabbit of beans.
- 19:25Speaker 2: You can't grow coffee any other way than in shade.
- 19:29Speaker 3: I know, I laughed so hard when I listened to
- 19:32Speaker 3: twenty years ago that that's the most common kind of coffee.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Yeah, coffee burns if you don't grow it in shade. Yeah,
- 19:38Speaker 2: Alex Jones, I like that. He also sells weight loss
- 19:41Speaker 2: supplements in his store. It's like, are you taking them?
- 19:44Speaker 2: Because yeah, So that's all the testimonial I need to know.
- 19:47Speaker 2: They don't fucking work, dude.
- 19:48Speaker 3: Nothing better than a fatman's weightless supplements.
- 19:52Speaker 2: So yeah, the bones of Steel thing is fucking stupid.
- 19:56Speaker 2: That just makes me infinitely more suspicious ben I would
- 20:01Speaker 2: have been otherwise.
- 20:02Speaker 3: It reminds me that Bill Hicks joke about Rush Limbaugh
- 20:05Speaker 3: or people that listen to Rush Limba's do you need
- 20:07Speaker 3: a Dad? You know, it's like, was Charlie Kirk your dad?
- 20:10Speaker 3: No one wants to see their dad get beat up? Yeah,
- 20:13Speaker 3: it feels that way.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Did you watch any of his funeral or his memorial.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Bits and pieces? Yeah, some of that. This Stephen Miller
- 20:21Speaker 3: fascist tirade was pretty disturbing.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Fucking WWE event. It's nuts so crazy. All right, let's
- 20:28Speaker 2: talk about another video making the rounds on YouTube. This
- 20:31Speaker 2: one calls out the fact that Charlie Kirk's hands look
- 20:34Speaker 2: fake in videos from his memorial, and right off the bat,
- 20:39Speaker 2: I'm like, why would they just fake the hands? Does
- 20:41Speaker 2: the face look normal? Because if so, I don't give
- 20:43Speaker 2: a shit if the hands look weird. But there is
- 20:46Speaker 2: a mortician on YouTube and I'll link to both of
- 20:49Speaker 2: these videos who points out that that's just what people's
- 20:52Speaker 2: hands look like after a person has been embalmed.
- 20:56Speaker 3: You are literally like making them fake hands. Yeah.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they were gonna fake anything
- 21:01Speaker 2: on his body. Why would they fake his hands? That
- 21:03Speaker 2: seems weird? And yeah, she says it. What you're seeing
- 21:08Speaker 2: is a bad makeup job. There was probably like bruising
- 21:11Speaker 2: on his hands or something from the embalment.
- 21:14Speaker 3: He needs to get in touch with Trump's guy for
- 21:15Speaker 3: hand makeup. Yeah, exactly. Trump has got it.
- 21:18Speaker 2: The line man that hand makeup on Trump. When are
- 21:21Speaker 2: we gonna start asking questions about how fucking fit he
- 21:24Speaker 2: is to actually be president? That man clearly has goddamn dementia.
- 21:28Speaker 3: He's getting more seen out by the day, and I mean,
- 21:31Speaker 3: those kinkles are swelling.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Did you see He posted an AI generated video that
- 21:37Speaker 2: showed him in the Oval office talking about med beeds,
- 21:40Speaker 2: which we need to do a medbed episode.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we do. This is just people that saw
- 21:45Speaker 3: the movie Elysium while they were high and forgot that
- 21:47Speaker 3: it wasn't a documentary. Yeah.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Someone made an AI generated video of Trump endorsing med beds,
- 21:54Speaker 2: and this motherfucker reposted it like it was a real thing.
- 21:57Speaker 2: That he actually said, you.
- 21:59Speaker 3: Lay in the bed and then it goes away. It's
- 22:01Speaker 3: very good.
- 22:02Speaker 2: So yeah, this guy's going nuts and he is our president.
- 22:06Speaker 3: It's great that this statement he made about Charlie Kirk
- 22:08Speaker 3: look like it was made by AI. We didn't put
- 22:11Speaker 3: that in here just because it's not really relevant to
- 22:13Speaker 3: the assassination itself, but it had AI sauce written all
- 22:16Speaker 3: over it. And there's a weird edit point in the
- 22:18Speaker 3: middle of it.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and he just goes on a fucking tangent
- 22:23Speaker 2: about the White House ballroom he wants to build.
- 22:26Speaker 3: It's weird. Oh yeah, that was the Kimmel clip. Now
- 22:28Speaker 3: I'm talking about his like memorial right after it, right
- 22:31Speaker 3: after it happened. Oh it looks very yeah, it looks
- 22:35Speaker 3: very chat GPT.
- 22:36Speaker 2: But in this video, the Mortician video, she also calls
- 22:39Speaker 2: someone out for saying there's no autopsy. She goes wrong
- 22:43Speaker 2: in a high profile case like this, there's an automatic autopsy,
- 22:46Speaker 2: all right? Where is it?
- 22:48Speaker 3: We automatically cover it up? Yeah?
- 22:50Speaker 2: If there is an auto generated autopsy, I would fucking
- 22:54Speaker 2: love to see it. There's also a weird audio recording
- 22:59Speaker 2: going around that is purported to be from a nine
- 23:02Speaker 2: to one to one dispatch call, and someone says he
- 23:06Speaker 2: did not go in for an autopsy. The doctor signed
- 23:08Speaker 2: the death certificate at the hospital, and then someone tells
- 23:11Speaker 2: this person to add something to the report saying there
- 23:14Speaker 2: was an autopsy. So is that recording real? I don't
- 23:17Speaker 2: know if it is. That is highly fucking sus.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Yeah, sleep tight, kids. Why do we skip autopsies only
- 23:23Speaker 3: when it's something that everyone wants to know. I'm sure
- 23:25Speaker 3: that they do an autopsy for Bill Stevenson, who obviously
- 23:29Speaker 3: had a heart attack in Omaha, Nebraska, but nationally known
- 23:34Speaker 3: the figure a high profile shooting. Let's sleeping dogs lie?
- 23:39Speaker 2: Yeah, what's to know? He got shot? That's how he died.
- 23:42Speaker 3: All right? When I'm killed for podcasting about this, they'll
- 23:45Speaker 3: do an autopsy on me. Yeah.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Probably, they won't release it, but because they'll have to
- 23:51Speaker 2: make it still look like a suicide.
- 23:53Speaker 3: It would be an honor to have my autopsy covered
- 23:56Speaker 3: up on some level. Yeah, that's the thing that means
- 23:58Speaker 3: the deep state sees me as a threat.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, getting killed by the deep state trying to
- 24:03Speaker 2: fight Nazis. There's worse ways to die, be honest, right,
- 24:06Speaker 2: it's an honorable way to go out.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Let me tell you about your uncle Adam. Kids. It
- 24:11Speaker 3: all started with the strong vasive bass. The sign kind
- 24:16Speaker 3: of did goddamn.
- 24:18Speaker 2: I wrote that Trump article ten years ago this week, wow,
- 24:21Speaker 2: October first, twenty fifteen. I wrote an article about how
- 24:25Speaker 2: Trump is going to be our hitler, and people were like,
- 24:27Speaker 2: shut up, idiot, you're dumb.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Really putting the atom and no, strad diamon didn't work,
- 24:34Speaker 3: didn't work. Tried it didn't work.
- 24:35Speaker 2: I think there is an Adam in it, right.
- 24:37Speaker 3: No strad damn mess. Yeah, yeah, there it is there,
- 24:41Speaker 3: It is got it.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. That's my ancestry.
- 24:44Speaker 3: I was just reading about the California genocide when I
- 24:47Speaker 3: was reading one of your articles today about the gold Rush.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is a thing you don't learn in school.
- 24:52Speaker 3: I went to public school in California. There's a whole
- 24:54Speaker 3: fucking unit where you have to build a mission out
- 24:56Speaker 3: of like styrofoam? Have you heard about this? No, build
- 25:00Speaker 3: one of the Catholic missions, like a replica of one
- 25:02Speaker 3: out of whatever the fuck? And then this is and
- 25:04Speaker 3: then you go visit one of the missions on a
- 25:06Speaker 3: field trip. It's every kid in California had to do this.
- 25:08Speaker 3: It seems to me like we could replace that unit
- 25:11Speaker 3: with the Native American genocide unit. We really wanted to
- 25:15Speaker 3: educate the kids, but I don't know. Yeah, you got
- 25:18Speaker 3: to make a little cross out of toothpicks or whatever.
- 25:20Speaker 2: You would think in liberal California that would at least
- 25:23Speaker 2: be on the agenda.
- 25:25Speaker 3: But yeah, it's bad for the brand. Yeah, look it
- 25:28Speaker 3: up everybody.
- 25:28Speaker 2: California gold Rush also called the California Genocide for a reason.
- 25:33Speaker 3: Name of my SKA band as well.
- 25:35Speaker 2: I know I said up top that the first theory
- 25:38Speaker 2: we talked about is the most compelling, but that's because
- 25:41Speaker 2: I forgot that this one is in the notes.
- 25:44Speaker 3: This one gave me goosebumps.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this one. This is heavy people. I hope
- 25:48Speaker 2: you're sitting down for this. There's a theory going around
- 25:51Speaker 2: that the murder of Charlie kirk was somehow predicted by
- 25:55Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety eight Nicholas Cage film Snake Eyes. Now,
- 25:59Speaker 2: I know people are like, that sounds insane. Adam Connor
- 26:03Speaker 2: hear us out. In the movie, Defense Secretary Charles Kirkland
- 26:10Speaker 2: is shot in the neck while attending a boxing match
- 26:14Speaker 2: featuring a fighter named Lincoln Tyler. And I don't think
- 26:19Speaker 2: anyone else has even put this part together. You know
- 26:22Speaker 2: who else got shot?
- 26:23Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln? Whoa whoa God damn. I didn't think this
- 26:29Speaker 3: could get realer.
- 26:30Speaker 2: And also, the shooting in the movie takes place on
- 26:33Speaker 2: September tenth. It doesn't, but people just added that detail
- 26:37Speaker 2: to make this seem a little more nefarious than it is.
- 26:41Speaker 3: And people are losing this shit. You know that's a
- 26:45Speaker 3: good light to tell because the debunk it you have
- 26:47Speaker 3: to watch the film Snake Eyes, starring Nicholas Cage.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know how films usually make it clear
- 26:53Speaker 2: what exact day and date something's happening on.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I've ever heard of a media property that had
- 26:59Speaker 3: FUBO written on it more clearly than Snake Eyes by
- 27:02Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage.
- 27:03Speaker 2: This is one of the quotes from people on Twitter.
- 27:06Speaker 2: There are no coincidences. The nineteen ninety eight movie Snake
- 27:10Speaker 2: Eyes with actor Nicholas Cage. The politician Charles Kirkland is
- 27:15Speaker 2: shot in the neck in the movie. The shooting happens
- 27:17Speaker 2: on September tenth. Charlie kirk was shot in the neck
- 27:20Speaker 2: in real life on September tenth. You just can't make
- 27:23Speaker 2: this stuff up, end quote. But again, you can make
- 27:26Speaker 2: some of it up. The September tenth thing, in terms
- 27:28Speaker 2: of the movie not real. There is nothing that suggests
- 27:32Speaker 2: that shooting in the movie happened on September tenth that.
- 27:35Speaker 3: Was made up. I mean, is this guy doing some
- 27:38Speaker 3: Neil deGrasse Tyson shit where he's looking at the stars
- 27:40Speaker 3: in the sky and seeing if the vernal equinox was
- 27:43Speaker 3: in the right quarter of the hemisphere.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Yeah, like the guy who figured out exactly what day
- 27:48Speaker 2: it was in ice cubes today was a good day song?
- 27:51Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, this is a not related to that
- 27:54Speaker 3: guy at all.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy did some work. That's a national hero
- 27:58Speaker 2: right there.
- 27:58Speaker 3: This is well, that was just a great exercise and
- 28:00Speaker 3: deductive reasoning. I would show that to like a college
- 28:03Speaker 3: logic class. Yeah.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's another quote. Have you seen this really weird?
- 28:09Speaker 2: Are we living in a matrix simulation? In the nineteen
- 28:12Speaker 2: ninety eight movie Snake Eyes, defense secretary Charles Kirkland is
- 28:16Speaker 2: shot on the left side of his neck during a
- 28:18Speaker 2: fight of Lincoln Tyler, while the detective played by Nicholas
- 28:21Speaker 2: Cage is distracted by a guy with long blonde hair.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Because you remember the long blonde hair guy at the
- 28:27Speaker 2: Charlie kirk shooting distracting everyone.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that part, that guy running around with
- 28:32Speaker 3: long blonde hair.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not remember that being part of the mythology. Yeah,
- 28:37Speaker 2: we haven't talked about the decoy guy.
- 28:40Speaker 3: And yeah, the two decoy guys.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Was there a second one?
- 28:43Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the older guy that was running around that
- 28:46Speaker 3: it was saying that he did it, and there was
- 28:48Speaker 3: another one fuck him. I don't remember the details.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Because I know there's a guy that it seemed like
- 28:53Speaker 2: they caught on camera like giving a thumbs up after
- 28:56Speaker 2: the shooting, and he's come out and been like, no,
- 28:59Speaker 2: that's different clip. But the decoy guy's weird. He said
- 29:02Speaker 2: he did it to help the shoot or get away.
- 29:05Speaker 2: I think he was just trying to commit suicide by cop.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Yeah, and some people are just nuts.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because didn't they. I believe they found child
- 29:14Speaker 2: porn on that guy's phone after Oh, he's like, this
- 29:18Speaker 2: is going to catch up to me.
- 29:19Speaker 3: He just shoot me please, And they did not. Oh
- 29:22Speaker 3: and there's another guy. There's a guy walking around with
- 29:23Speaker 3: a rifle on campus. Oh okay, that was what I
- 29:26Speaker 3: was thinking of. So yeah, two, which is weird things
- 29:29Speaker 3: going on. Did you see the Mormon influencer who posted
- 29:32Speaker 3: a selfie video right after Charlie Kirk was shot. Yeah,
- 29:36Speaker 3: that was pretty amazing. That made that really to me.
- 29:39Speaker 3: I'm just like, America's cooked. The fame economy is not
- 29:43Speaker 3: good for the human experience.
- 29:45Speaker 2: No, did you see there was someone right after Charlie
- 29:49Speaker 2: Kirk got shot. They walk up to the table and
- 29:51Speaker 2: start tossing the Trump hats into the crowd.
- 29:54Speaker 3: I miss that.
- 29:55Speaker 2: God, people are crazy fucking nuts.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm trying to think of what I would
- 30:00Speaker 3: do the situation. I think just run. Yeah, I think
- 30:02Speaker 3: I think I would book it.
- 30:03Speaker 2: I mean I would get the fuck out of there, absolutely.
- 30:06Speaker 2: I mean i'd take cover until I knew shooting was done.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Because I remember what happened in Butler. Trump didn't get
- 30:13Speaker 2: shot but a dude in the crouch or shit did
- 30:16Speaker 2: so take cover?
- 30:18Speaker 3: All right.
- 30:18Speaker 2: One of the biggest conspiracy theories about this, like an
- 30:21Speaker 2: actual theory that a conspiracy was involved, is coming directly
- 30:26Speaker 2: from the government, and that would be the theory that this
- 30:29Speaker 2: killing was the result of some kind of vast left
- 30:32Speaker 2: wing conspiracy involving multiple people and groups.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Total coincidence that they hated these groups and wanted to
- 30:39Speaker 3: take them down to begin with, that's a complete coincidence.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Yeah, this doesn't have Reichstag fire vibes whatsoever.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a good time googling that.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's bad times or nine to eleven, I mean,
- 30:52Speaker 2: and the same thing happened after nine to eleven. We
- 30:55Speaker 2: just slid so much freedom across the table in exchange
- 30:58Speaker 2: for being protected from arrists.
- 31:01Speaker 3: What's that question? I forget who said it. Maybe it's
- 31:03Speaker 3: Thomas Pain. Those who give up liberty for safety you
- 31:05Speaker 3: deserve neither.
- 31:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that was Thomas Pain.
- 31:09Speaker 3: And then there's the extolling of the January sixth guys,
- 31:12Speaker 3: that is like a direct corollary to Hitler placing this
- 31:16Speaker 3: huge amount of significance on the people that died in
- 31:18Speaker 3: the beer Hall puts, Yeah, and having this like big
- 31:21Speaker 3: Gothic ceremony to fucking honor them. Yeah.
- 31:24Speaker 2: The direct parallels between this administration and the Nazis are
- 31:30Speaker 2: highly fucking alarming.
- 31:31Speaker 3: It's you feel hackey making them. But it's like there's
- 31:34Speaker 3: so many of them and they're so clear. It's like,
- 31:36Speaker 3: what do you do?
- 31:37Speaker 2: Yeah, And that thing where people are like, oh, calling
- 31:40Speaker 2: them Nazis is disrespecting the six million Jews the Nazis killed.
- 31:44Speaker 3: No, it's not.
- 31:45Speaker 2: It's honoring the shit out of them by wanting to
- 31:47Speaker 2: make sure the shit doesn't happen again.
- 31:49Speaker 3: I think they would probably be ringing the bell the loudest.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think not acknowledging that this
- 31:56Speaker 2: is headed for some Nazi shit is disrespectful and stupid.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I mean, look at the ICE budget. The secret police
- 32:02Speaker 3: budget is like the size of most countries' military budget. Yeah.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Yeah, they got so much money. And I think they
- 32:09Speaker 2: have the highest law enforcement budget now.
- 32:12Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's quite far the highest. And it's like, well,
- 32:14Speaker 3: you and in these camps and you're like, well, who
- 32:16Speaker 3: are they gonna put there? You motherfucker. It's gonna be
- 32:19Speaker 3: They'll get the podcasters, believe me, it will be me
- 32:23Speaker 3: and Connor.
- 32:23Speaker 2: They already passed I mean, didn't pass a law, but
- 32:27Speaker 2: the administration just put out a thing linking anti government sentiment,
- 32:33Speaker 2: anti capitalist sentiment, and anti Israel sentiment to violent extremism.
- 32:39Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get black bagged for having a leftover,
- 32:42Speaker 3: cracked T shirt. That's the thing.
- 32:44Speaker 2: Like, I feel like the ship has sailed in terms
- 32:48Speaker 2: of all right, well, if they're gonna get that way,
- 32:51Speaker 2: then I'm just not gonna say anything about the government anymore.
- 32:53Speaker 2: It's too fucking late. We already said all the shit
- 32:56Speaker 2: on social media. Who do you think was saving our
- 32:58Speaker 2: tweets when we're talking shit about the government? Wasn't fans.
- 33:02Speaker 2: So we're cooked no matter what. So we might as
- 33:05Speaker 2: well go down fighting, you know, all right.
- 33:08Speaker 3: I don't want to finish the rest of the show.
- 33:11Speaker 2: So this idea that it's a left wing conspiracy. Here's
- 33:14Speaker 2: a quote from Stephen Miller's Bitch Ass. With God as
- 33:17Speaker 2: my witness, we are going to use every resource we
- 33:20Speaker 2: have at the Department of Justice, whole land Security, and
- 33:24Speaker 2: throughout this government to identified disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these
- 33:29Speaker 2: networks and make America safe again for the American people.
- 33:33Speaker 2: It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.
- 33:36Speaker 3: End quote.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Meanwhile, sources familiar with the investigation speaking to NBC News
- 33:41Speaker 2: provided this quote. Thus far, there is no evidence connecting
- 33:45Speaker 2: the suspect with any left wing groups. Every indication so
- 33:49Speaker 2: far is that this was one guy who did one
- 33:52Speaker 2: really bad thing because he found Kirk's ideology personally offensive.
- 33:57Speaker 3: End quote.
- 33:58Speaker 2: There are also two other people NBC spoke to who
- 34:01Speaker 2: said they're probably not even going to be able to
- 34:04Speaker 2: charge this guy with a federal crime because for that
- 34:06Speaker 2: to happen, he would have had to, for one thing,
- 34:09Speaker 2: travel out of state to commit this murder, and he
- 34:11Speaker 2: was a Utah resident. I don't know why that matters,
- 34:14Speaker 2: but apparently it does.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Seems odd. Yeah, he would have had to counterfeit some
- 34:18Speaker 3: money and then by the rifle with that. Yeah.
- 34:21Speaker 2: And also, Charlie Kirk wasn't a politician, he wasn't an
- 34:25Speaker 2: elected official, he's not a federal officer. So there's not
- 34:28Speaker 2: really any reason to charge this as a federal crime,
- 34:31Speaker 2: and doesn't seem like it's a conspiracy. That's not going
- 34:34Speaker 2: to stop the Trump administration from cracking down on the
- 34:37Speaker 2: left over it.
- 34:38Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean they're groups like there's shit like
- 34:42Speaker 3: you know, trans gun owners of Utah. Yeah, which if
- 34:46Speaker 3: you'd want to ask me a group of people that
- 34:48Speaker 3: you probably have guns, it's trans people in Utah. Yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 3: no shit, but yeah, just shit like that. That's like
- 34:54Speaker 3: more than mostly an Instagram page. Like they think that
- 34:58Speaker 3: Antifa is this highly or organized spidering network and it's
- 35:02Speaker 3: like a group of signal chats and discords and shit.
- 35:05Speaker 3: You know, it's not that organized.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an idea more and I should know. I'm
- 35:10Speaker 2: the head of Antifa. And that's what is so scary
- 35:13Speaker 2: about that Antifa order. There's so many people who are like,
- 35:16Speaker 2: Antifa is not even real group. That's why it's so
- 35:19Speaker 2: scary because they can just anyone could be an Antifa.
- 35:22Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they can tie anyone to it, and their
- 35:24Speaker 2: whole one of their main talking points is Antifa is
- 35:27Speaker 2: so secretive you don't even know who's a member. So
- 35:31Speaker 2: think about all these fucking centrist types, people who don't
- 35:34Speaker 2: really pay attention to politics.
- 35:36Speaker 3: They're gonna hear that.
- 35:36Speaker 2: And just be like, oh, yeah, I guess it's a
- 35:38Speaker 2: left wing extremist country needs to be rid of them,
- 35:41Speaker 2: and it's just Trump cracking down on dissent while he
- 35:44Speaker 2: still has the mental faculties to sort of do it.
- 35:46Speaker 2: I know people are like, oh, yeah, but when Trump's gone,
- 35:49Speaker 2: then it's gonna be jd Vance coming bringing up the rear.
- 35:53Speaker 2: I'm way more comfortable with that. Motherfuckers don't like jd
- 35:56Speaker 2: Vance way they like Trump.
- 35:57Speaker 3: He does not have the sauce where whatever he says
- 36:00Speaker 3: people construct a reality around it so that it is
- 36:04Speaker 3: the truth of their personal universe. Yeah.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Yeah, jd Vance would be way less of a threat.
- 36:10Speaker 3: He'd be like, we should deport more of them. Yeah,
- 36:13Speaker 3: I'm all right, Nerd shut out.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Someone just slaps him, like Will Smith at the fucking
- 36:18Speaker 2: Oscars Grammys.
- 36:19Speaker 3: I don't remember Oscars. Oh yeah, yeah, he was about
- 36:21Speaker 3: to tell some of my jokes. He was, Yes, he was.
- 36:26Speaker 3: That's awesome, but class act that he is. Chris Rock
- 36:29Speaker 3: still paid me full price. Oh that's cool, good adving.
- 36:32Speaker 2: So there are lots of claims that the shooting is
- 36:35Speaker 2: just a straight up hoax, and we'll get to another
- 36:38Speaker 2: claim that makes it seem like maybe. But one of
- 36:41Speaker 2: the things that I've seen people pointing to is that
- 36:44Speaker 2: In this video you see this little black square on
- 36:47Speaker 2: his shirt that flies off when he gets hit, and
- 36:50Speaker 2: people are like, oh, that was a blood packet?
- 36:52Speaker 3: What that was?
- 36:53Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think they would put the
- 36:55Speaker 2: blood packet on the outside of his shirt. And also
- 36:58Speaker 2: that little black square is a magnetic microphone clip.
- 37:03Speaker 3: He wore him at all of his public events like this.
- 37:07Speaker 3: There's a lot of mike you could see. You could
- 37:08Speaker 3: probably find a black square on most pictures of famous
- 37:11Speaker 3: people in public throughout history.
- 37:13Speaker 2: And I think this is where another theory that's going
- 37:16Speaker 2: around comes from. There is this theory that, well, the
- 37:20Speaker 2: bullet wounded so weird because the bullet hit his body
- 37:23Speaker 2: armor and then deflected up into his neck. And I
- 37:26Speaker 2: think it's this little black square that people are seeing
- 37:29Speaker 2: flying up into his neck and assuming that's what happened,
- 37:33Speaker 2: but it's not.
- 37:34Speaker 3: It's just a microphone clip.
- 37:35Speaker 2: There's also the ring he's wearing, and this shit does
- 37:38Speaker 2: look weird because he's wearing a ring on his ring.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Finger pulled the microphone, and then after he's shot, you
- 37:45Speaker 2: can see that the ring is it appears to be
- 37:48Speaker 2: on his pinky now and people are like, see video
- 37:51Speaker 2: was altered. But there's other videos of him at other
- 37:54Speaker 2: events playing with this ring, and it looks like a
- 37:57Speaker 2: ring that opens like there's a clasp on it as
- 38:00Speaker 2: opposed to it just because.
- 38:01Speaker 3: He had one of these when I was a kid,
- 38:03Speaker 3: so you could poison people supposedly.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've had one of those two. But
- 38:08Speaker 2: this one, I think the band opens so you can
- 38:10Speaker 2: just take.
- 38:11Speaker 3: It off that way with a little watch.
- 38:14Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's videos of him fucking with this ring
- 38:17Speaker 2: at a bunch of his other appearances, and yes, it's
- 38:21Speaker 2: on his ring finger before he shot, but then he
- 38:24Speaker 2: puts his hands down and you can't see the ring.
- 38:27Speaker 2: I think he might have been fucking with that ring
- 38:29Speaker 2: when he got shot, because when his hand comes back up,
- 38:32Speaker 2: the ring is in the area of his pinky, but
- 38:35Speaker 2: it doesn't look like he's wearing it there. It looks
- 38:38Speaker 2: like it could just be falling or maybe if it
- 38:40Speaker 2: opens like that, maybe it hung onto his pinky for
- 38:43Speaker 2: a second. But I don't think people are seeing what
- 38:46Speaker 2: they think they're seeing in that particular video.
- 38:49Speaker 3: It's a hinged ring. I never thought i'd learn what
- 38:52Speaker 3: that is.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Yeah, do those exist? They have to write?
- 38:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't distrust this article. I'm looking
- 38:58Speaker 3: at it right now. It does look like it's kind
- 39:00Speaker 3: of hanging by something and not really fully attached, which
- 39:03Speaker 3: I guess some people would probably tell you. Let's say, ye, bro,
- 39:05Speaker 3: it's bad ai man. But I also I'm a bit
- 39:10Speaker 3: of a fuss budget. I like to fidget, you know. Yeah,
- 39:12Speaker 3: I could see neating something to toy with while I
- 39:15Speaker 3: listened to college students stay stupid shit to me.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm very fidgety. So I
- 39:21Speaker 2: don't know this particular. We found the one thing we
- 39:23Speaker 2: have in common with Charlie Kirk exactly. I knew we'd
- 39:26Speaker 2: find common ground someday. Don't kill us Republicans.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on your side here. We're good guys. We're
- 39:34Speaker 3: nice guys. Damn it. We're looking into this very respectfully.
- 39:38Speaker 2: I mean we kind of are. This is at least
- 39:41Speaker 2: we're looking into it. Not a lot of people are.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, not just buying the official narrative.
- 39:46Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, the ring thing doesn't do anything for me.
- 39:50Speaker 2: But you added a couple things that are weird.
- 39:53Speaker 3: This is some footage of Tyler running across the roof,
- 39:56Speaker 3: kind of zoomed in so it's a bit grainy. So
- 39:58Speaker 3: we see mister Robinson allegedly running on the roof, and
- 40:01Speaker 3: there's some inconsistencies. The first one is that when he
- 40:05Speaker 3: runs from one patch of a roof to another, his
- 40:07Speaker 3: shadow abruptly disappears. Yes, you see a very clear shadow
- 40:11Speaker 3: underneath him. And then when he goes to this different
- 40:13Speaker 3: patch of roof that's made out of a different material,
- 40:15Speaker 3: the shadow's gone. Now. The two sections of the roof,
- 40:18Speaker 3: like I said, are clearly made of different materials, and
- 40:20Speaker 3: different materials have different properties, including how they absorb light.
- 40:23Speaker 3: I dated an oil painter. She told me about this.
- 40:25Speaker 3: It's very interesting. But who knows that that's was happening.
- 40:27Speaker 3: It is a bit weird to see the shadow abruptly disappear.
- 40:30Speaker 3: What did you think, Adam?
- 40:31Speaker 2: It is a weird video. The shadow absolutely does disappear.
- 40:34Speaker 2: But I think you're onto something with the fact that
- 40:37Speaker 2: when it disappears, he's running onto a different surface.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Yeah, he's running on a bright white surface. To me,
- 40:44Speaker 3: seems like I could see a shadow of being difficult
- 40:47Speaker 3: to pick up on film on a bright white surface
- 40:49Speaker 3: on a hot sunny day, you know.
- 40:51Speaker 2: And perspective is also a thing. A lot of these
- 40:55Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk videos I've seen, it looks like the people
- 40:58Speaker 2: given the weird base running signs behind him are like
- 41:01Speaker 2: right behind him. But then you look at other videos
- 41:03Speaker 2: and it's clear they're back into the left, So.
- 41:06Speaker 3: Back into the left, back into the left.
- 41:10Speaker 2: And so yeah, I don't know. It's a weird video,
- 41:13Speaker 2: but I feel like it's a thing. Someone out there
- 41:16Speaker 2: can probably explain.
- 41:17Speaker 3: Released the blueprints Utah Valley University. We need to know
- 41:21Speaker 3: what kind of stucco was used. The same video also
- 41:25Speaker 3: points out there's a strange kind of film of blue
- 41:28Speaker 3: haze around the edge of the roof, which to me
- 41:30Speaker 3: just looked like a camera glitch that just looked like
- 41:33Speaker 3: I've really zoomed in footage and weird light processing. I
- 41:38Speaker 3: didn't have too much of an issue with that. He
- 41:40Speaker 3: also will tell you that Tyler's shadow distorts some vertical
- 41:44Speaker 3: lines on the side of the building. I just don't
- 41:46Speaker 3: see it. I don't see what he's talking about. And
- 41:48Speaker 3: finally they claim that there's a pedestrian who disappears behind
- 41:51Speaker 3: a tree. He's walking behind the tree and then he
- 41:54Speaker 3: doesn't go out the other side, so he must have
- 41:56Speaker 3: been made by AI, or he changed directions yea, and
- 41:59Speaker 3: walked behind the tree in a way that you couldn't
- 42:01Speaker 3: see him.
- 42:02Speaker 2: I mean, who hasn't seen those spooky videos on the
- 42:05Speaker 2: internet where it looks like someone's walking up to a
- 42:08Speaker 2: group and then they just disappear and it's like, yeah, yeah,
- 42:10Speaker 2: they went a different way that the camera didn't catch.
- 42:14Speaker 3: So that one starts off convincing and gets a little
- 42:16Speaker 3: whack of do as you go on.
- 42:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely need to know more about the
- 42:21Speaker 2: roof because his shadow is even there for a second
- 42:24Speaker 2: when he switches over to the other surface.
- 42:28Speaker 3: I didn't see that interesting. I don't know if.
- 42:29Speaker 2: There's a weird angle. I don't know if he's stepping down.
- 42:33Speaker 3: I don't know. Another light source maybe.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Yeah, but what a crazy angle? What was that surveillance
- 42:39Speaker 2: camera pointing at?
- 42:40Speaker 3: I think it was a wide shot of the whole
- 42:42Speaker 3: building from across the street.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes sense because yeah, it's not high
- 42:47Speaker 2: quality video. It's very grainy, very zoomed in. But then
- 42:51Speaker 2: there's the chair video.
- 42:53Speaker 3: Then there's the chair video. Now this one kind of
- 42:56Speaker 3: is gonna haunt my nightmares because it is very straight looking.
- 43:00Speaker 3: There's an angle of the shooting that seems to show
- 43:04Speaker 3: a chair passing right through a table, as if it
- 43:06Speaker 3: were a fucking ghost chair or a hologram yep, or
- 43:09Speaker 3: some kind of low key thought projection. And I'm not
- 43:12Speaker 3: gonna lie to you, that's exactly what it looks like,
- 43:14Speaker 3: dear listener.
- 43:15Speaker 2: It looks exactly like that. Again, we'll link to all
- 43:18Speaker 2: these videos. I had to watch it a couple times
- 43:21Speaker 2: because at first the chair just falls off the table.
- 43:24Speaker 2: But I would argue, even the way the chair ends
- 43:26Speaker 2: up back on the table looks weird. It almost looks
- 43:29Speaker 2: like a video being played in reverse, like it almost
- 43:32Speaker 2: lifts up and moves back there on its own.
- 43:34Speaker 3: There's like a delayed bounce almost.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it just yeah, it looks like it
- 43:40Speaker 2: goes right through that fucking table.
- 43:42Speaker 3: I can only the logical explanation would have to be
- 43:45Speaker 3: that this is some kind of optical illusion. Maybe there's
- 43:49Speaker 3: a blanket covering two tables and it's going between the
- 43:52Speaker 3: cracks and the tables or something. Yeah, But I could not,
- 43:55Speaker 3: for the life of me see it. I watched it
- 43:57Speaker 3: twenty or thirty times, and it just got weirder and
- 43:59Speaker 3: weirder each time I did.
- 44:00Speaker 2: Yeah, like, maybe there's a frame missing in the video
- 44:03Speaker 2: or something, but it sure as shit looks like that
- 44:06Speaker 2: chair just goes directly through that table.
- 44:09Speaker 3: It makes no sense. I'm not telling you for a
- 44:11Speaker 3: fact that this was a hologram, And Charlie Kirk is
- 44:14Speaker 3: partying with Tupac and Biggie in South America right now,
- 44:17Speaker 3: probably because that would be the most awkward play date
- 44:20Speaker 3: of all time. But it does give a little crumb
- 44:23Speaker 3: of credibility to our next theory, which comes to us
- 44:26Speaker 3: from the flat Earth community, So you know it's true,
- 44:29Speaker 3: absolutely pretty self complanatory. This guy's got a little seven
- 44:33Speaker 3: minute mini doc claiming that the whole thing was holographically
- 44:36Speaker 3: projected using top of the line hologram technology, which is
- 44:39Speaker 3: starting to hit the market now. You can buy hologram
- 44:42Speaker 3: projectors and shit for forty fifty sixty seventy grand. I
- 44:45Speaker 3: think they rely on a great deal of smoke to operate,
- 44:49Speaker 3: if my knowledge of holograms is still up to date.
- 44:52Speaker 3: But I would write it off as totally inane and
- 44:56Speaker 3: silly if there wasn't a magic chair flying through tables.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, the magic chair is going to be I think
- 45:03Speaker 2: the defining characteristic of this conspiracy theory.
- 45:07Speaker 3: Because I think so. And it's also the best CS
- 45:10Speaker 3: Lewis novel, The Magic Chair. I'm not familiar with the
- 45:14Speaker 3: Chronicles of Narnia. Oh okay, that's why I'm not familiar.
- 45:17Speaker 3: I think that guy was actually a right wing wacko too. Now,
- 45:20Speaker 3: come on, no way, come on. C. S. Lewis do better.
- 45:25Speaker 3: So did Charlie Kirk pull on Elvis to help the
- 45:27Speaker 3: Conservative government do a Reichstag and advance their agenda? We
- 45:31Speaker 3: may never know.
- 45:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is one of the theories, is
- 45:35Speaker 2: that he just faked this as a means of helping
- 45:38Speaker 2: the government become more fucking right wing, and that when
- 45:41Speaker 2: he was carried away, he was just carried away to
- 45:44Speaker 2: a limo and was fine. And yeah, where is he now?
- 45:47Speaker 3: He's laughing it up on FaceTime with Ben Shapiro and
- 45:50Speaker 3: then the rest. Yeah, yeah, I think those guys hate
- 45:52Speaker 3: each other.
- 45:53Speaker 2: But yeah, probably he's an Argentina somewhere. I think you're right,
- 45:56Speaker 2: partying with Tupac.
- 45:58Speaker 3: Partying with Joseph Mangles nephew. Yeah.
- 46:02Speaker 2: So yeah, the thing that I still have yet to
- 46:05Speaker 2: see addressed. We brought it up last week, and I'll
- 46:07Speaker 2: bring it up again. No one has debunked what that
- 46:11Speaker 2: guy in the black polo shirt behind Charlie Kirk is doing.
- 46:15Speaker 3: It's the guy in the black polo shirt with a
- 46:18Speaker 3: holograph picture.
- 46:20Speaker 2: Those are the two things for me, that guy and
- 46:23Speaker 2: now this fucking chair video.
- 46:24Speaker 3: And that back in the bullet angle, that extra.
- 46:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I need all of those things to be explained
- 46:30Speaker 2: by people smarter than me, please. And I find it
- 46:34Speaker 2: really weird that every article that is like, no, we
- 46:38Speaker 2: debunked the thing about the guys standing behind him, they're
- 46:42Speaker 2: only talking about the guy grabbing the rim of his hat.
- 46:45Speaker 2: No one mentions the obviously weird shit. The guy in
- 46:48Speaker 2: the black polo does the much weirder shit like the
- 46:52Speaker 2: other guy goes.
- 46:53Speaker 3: And gives an interview to debunk the whole thing, and
- 46:55Speaker 3: and it's like, well, if you wanted to bunk the
- 46:56Speaker 3: whole thing, de bunk the whole fucking thing.
- 46:58Speaker 2: Fuck her, Yeah, who what's the next to you? Because
- 47:01Speaker 2: he's clearly signaling something to someone like that's not normal.
- 47:06Speaker 3: Maybe that's what Charlie wants to diet coke. Maybe that's
- 47:09Speaker 3: all it meant. Yeah, exactly, show me that just tell us.
- 47:13Speaker 2: What that guy was doing. And I mean, until I
- 47:15Speaker 2: find that out, I'm fucking suspicious. And the fact that
- 47:19Speaker 2: no one is bothering or just like pretending that that
- 47:22Speaker 2: guy's not there in that video, it doesn't make me
- 47:25Speaker 2: less suspicious, that's for goddamn sure.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm sorry to wonder if if they
- 47:31Speaker 3: did pick up on Tyler was going to do this,
- 47:33Speaker 3: had plans to do this, and they're like.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Wait, let's just do it better. Yeah, could be same
- 47:38Speaker 2: thing in Butler.
- 47:39Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 47:39Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't do it better in Butler. But
- 47:42Speaker 2: that's the craziest thing where people are like, no, they
- 47:45Speaker 2: trump faked that. It's like, so they shot a guy
- 47:48Speaker 2: in the audience.
- 47:49Speaker 3: That's bold. That's pretty brutal.
- 47:51Speaker 2: That is a bold fucking move. But also, yeah, maybe
- 47:54Speaker 2: so that's our episode. I'm sure this will be the
- 47:57Speaker 2: last Charlie Kirk shooting conspiracy uppisode we do. This story
- 48:01Speaker 2: will probably go away pretty soon.
- 48:03Speaker 3: It's in the process of blowing over. Yeah.
- 48:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's going to be any ramification
- 48:08Speaker 2: from any of this, and we'll all forget about it
- 48:11Speaker 2: by next week.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Well to your earlier point there, hasn't been any new
- 48:15Speaker 3: news on the Epstein files really, yeah, go figure.
- 48:18Speaker 2: And I think a bunch of other files just got
- 48:21Speaker 2: released also that no one is talking about. So I
- 48:25Speaker 2: guess next week on Conspiracy the Show, maybe we'll dive
- 48:28Speaker 2: into those other Epstein files. You know what else we
- 48:31Speaker 2: need to do sometimes George Soros episode.
- 48:34Speaker 3: Oh people, George Soros is a conservative boogeyman for like
- 48:37Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years now. Yeah.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Yeah, he is going to be I think the main
- 48:42Speaker 2: target of this campaign to take down left wing groups.
- 48:46Speaker 3: I mean, he's been boogeymanned and vilified so much that
- 48:49Speaker 3: I don't I don't see there being like any kind
- 48:51Speaker 3: of conservative resistance to that. Yeah, yeah, not at all. Yeah.
- 48:55Speaker 3: I mean his kid did marry Huma Aberdeen. That's pretty
- 48:58Speaker 3: that's pretty deep state right there. Yeah that sure is
- 49:01Speaker 3: would have love to go to that wedding.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so pretty though, good for him, she is
- 49:05Speaker 2: out of his league. Yeah, So that's our episode. I
- 49:08Speaker 2: don't know what we're talking about next week, but it's
- 49:10Speaker 2: probably gonna be something that gets us put on a list.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Until then, this feels like the absolute best time to
- 49:16Speaker 2: plug some shit. I am writing again on Beehive that
- 49:21Speaker 2: is Adam Todd Brown dot beehive dot com.
- 49:24Speaker 3: B e e hiv.
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- 49:31Speaker 2: Go read my writings there, and just a heads up
- 49:34Speaker 2: if you click the ad at the bottom, even if
- 49:37Speaker 2: you don't buy anything, I still get paid, so just
- 49:39Speaker 2: keep that in mind.
- 49:40Speaker 3: Connor, what would you like to plug? I would like
- 49:43Speaker 3: to plug Adam's Beehive and my comedy special Live in
- 49:46Speaker 3: Tucson on YouTube dot com. Connorickspaden Live in Tucson on
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- 49:50Speaker 2: And I think that's it. Let's get the fuck out
- 49:52Speaker 2: of here. Connor say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, everybody.
- 49:56Speaker 3: We love you.
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