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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Panthers Still in First Place & CFB Recap · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas? Oh, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's Mike and Bo.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. This is my friend, T-Bone. My bladder's
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  Speaker 1: always going like Carson Husslevar. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
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  Speaker 1: They're the best. I love those guys. Ding dong, the
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  Speaker 1: witch is dead, the witch is dead, the wicked witch.
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  Speaker 1: Ding dong, the wicked witch is dead.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to the Mackin' Bo Show on Mackin.
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  Speaker 1: Bo Radio. Good Monday morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. It is
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show time, and we are overflowing with
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  Speaker 1: things to discuss on this radio show. We had ourselves
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  Speaker 1: a Panther-free weekend, ladies and gentlemen. We will discuss what
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  Speaker 1: we saw, which includes a result that keeps your Carolina
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  Speaker 1: Panthers alive. in first place by themselves in the NFC.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all feel the first place vibes? Y'all feel like a
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  Speaker 1: first place team? Bone is over there, I can tell.
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  Speaker 1: We will also discuss the Denver Broncos dramatic win as
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  Speaker 1: they get ready. Sean Payton, the dastardly Sean Payton gets
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  Speaker 1: ready to head in here with a 6-2 record. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't talked since the Ajero of arrow firing and
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooley as well. Todd Washington, new OC. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. We got a full college football weekend. To recap,
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  Speaker 1: the first CFP rankings will come out tomorrow. So we're
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  Speaker 1: getting down to crunch time. We'll talk about that as well.
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  Speaker 1: The Hornets lose two this weekend. Saturday's loss was heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely freaking heartbreaking. So we've got to talk about that
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  Speaker 1: as well. But we got some good news. Kobe White
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  Speaker 1: coming back tonight for your Charlotte Horn. Still no Kanye
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  Speaker 1: or Grant Williams, but Kobe White will play tonight at
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  Speaker 1: home with the Hive against the Pistons. We got things
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  Speaker 1: going on. We got things happening. Charlotte FC with a
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  Speaker 1: resounding win. We'll talk to our guy, Ashley Westwood, Westy,
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  Speaker 1: coming up on the show today. We got Fitty. We
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  Speaker 1: got Bone. Bone, you got a fresh new Panthers hat.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that, baby. Yeah, that's a new one there.
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  Speaker 1: I like that one.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to maybe exercise some demons of things we've seen
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  Speaker 4: recently there.
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  Speaker 1: Mac, big day for Dr. Quads.
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  Speaker 4: It's not in March, but he's in the lab today.
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  Speaker 4: The Field of 68 Opening Hoops Marathon. Underway in Rock
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  Speaker 4: Hill started at midnight where High Point got a win
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  Speaker 4: over Liberty. App State's playing Mary Mac right now. It
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  Speaker 4: just started. And Queens plays Winthrop at 9 a.m. So
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  Speaker 4: this is, you talk about a morning where Dr. Quads
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  Speaker 4: has appointments all day long. He is back there in
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  Speaker 4: that hoops lab today.
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  Speaker 1: Eggs and hoops, man. I wonder if we got any
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  Speaker 1: listeners down there hanging out in Rock Thrill for these games.
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  Speaker 4: Some of our media friends are. Chabell Fowler's reporting live
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  Speaker 4: there today. He said that they tried to get a
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  Speaker 4: wave going during the Grambling game at 432. Even players
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  Speaker 4: joined in to try to get that thing going. They
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  Speaker 4: need to create their own energy for the early morning hoops.
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  Speaker 4: That's a pretty cool event. I see what they're trying
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  Speaker 4: to do. I like it. A lot of different teams
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  Speaker 4: of local intrigue are involved. Of course, everybody's going to
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  Speaker 4: play tonight. Duke Army, Western Carolina against UNC. State's playing Campbell.
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  Speaker 4: Charlotte's playing Indiana State. So we've got a bunch. Everybody's
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  Speaker 4: playing tonight. Although there are some games tomorrow, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: of teams that don't play tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say 75, 80%. It feels like the
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  Speaker 1: college basketball teams are playing tonight in the opening day.
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  Speaker 4: Some big ones, too. Florida-Miami at 6 p.m. That's a
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  Speaker 4: very intriguing opening night matchup. Purdue-Gonzaga tonight. There's good stuff
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  Speaker 4: locally and nationally. A very busy Sports Monday with Hoops,
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  Speaker 4: the Hornets. Monday Night Football is a good one tonight.
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  Speaker 4: A lot going on for a Monday. It's amazing, Mac,
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  Speaker 4: how fresh we are, though, when we don't watch the
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  Speaker 4: Panthers get run over on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it took me until Sunday morning to
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  Speaker 1: start thinking about the Panthers again. I thought a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about Averro getting fired and what's this really going
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  Speaker 1: to do and what's the deal with Todd Walsh. He
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  Speaker 1: has had some good seasons as a D.C. in this league.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that. But it took me until Sunday
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  Speaker 1: morning to be like, OK, let me make myself, immerse
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  Speaker 1: myself back in the world. Let me listen to Canales'
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  Speaker 1: press conference. Let me rewatch that horrible football game from Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: All those things, Bone, it took me a while to
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  Speaker 1: get to. We did get to enjoy somebody else running,
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  Speaker 1: or the Bucky Irving run the hell over somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: This was worse. This was worse.
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  Speaker 4: Those NFC South games, Mac, are incredible to watch when
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  Speaker 4: you're not involved in them.
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  Speaker 1: The conditions were insane. Monsoon-type conditions. And as a result,
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  Speaker 1: the Bucs ran... For 300, I've got to get the
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  Speaker 1: final total here. Was it like 328 or something?
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  Speaker 4: I know Bucky had 371 and Gainwell had like 140, right?
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  Speaker 1: Bucky had 170? Yeah, yeah. You had him with 371
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  Speaker 1: a minute ago there.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at 171 and then Gainwell had 140.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they went for 320 plus on the ground. 322,
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  Speaker 1: I think, on the ground against the Falcons. It gets better.
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  Speaker 1: It gets so much better. This game was glorious, cathartic,
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  Speaker 1: dare I say. The Bucs won the game without Baker
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield completing a pass. He only attempted three. They went
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  Speaker 1: straight Army on the Atlanta Falcons and shut them out
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  Speaker 1: 16-0 without completing a pass. Granted, it was monsoon conditions.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was embarrassing, Bone. It was that we
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  Speaker 1: got routed when Baker completed seven. This is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So the leading catch man for the Buccaneers was Alex Anzalone.
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  Speaker 4: He had two off Michael Penix. And Penix made four INTs,
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  Speaker 4: three attempts by Baker. So Penix had more INTs than
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  Speaker 4: Baker had attempts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Penix was brutal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They had nowhere near, despite having Bijon, they had nowhere
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  Speaker 1: near the success running the ball.
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  Speaker 4: The rain was coming up from the ground like it
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  Speaker 4: did at Forrest Gump at one point.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy, man. Baker Mayfield and Jesse Bates almost
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  Speaker 1: getting into a scrap after Baker blocked him out of bounds.
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  Speaker 1: Baker turned in to a hell of a lead blocker
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and seemed to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: That was a weird game, but the result... I liked
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  Speaker 4: what Baker said in the postgame. It just played on
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  Speaker 4: ESPN Radio, Matt, where they asked him about his performance.
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  Speaker 4: He said, well, we won, and I'm out there trying
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  Speaker 4: to get the guys lined up in the right run spots,
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  Speaker 4: and I handed off, and I thought I did pretty
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  Speaker 4: well today.
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  Speaker 1: He said, Jesse Bates and I played in the mud today,
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  Speaker 1: is what he said. It was crazy, but what also
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  Speaker 1: is crazy is this Carolina Panther team... They just fired
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  Speaker 1: two defensive coaches, Bone, and it feels like the sky
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  Speaker 1: is falling or in first place by themselves. Again, print
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  Speaker 1: the T-shirt. Gotta love the NFC South. Print the T-shirt, Bone.
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  Speaker 1: I say it every damn week. I call it God's division.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got.
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  Speaker 1: You've got... Carolina 3-4, Tampa 3-5, Atlanta 3-5, and the
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  Speaker 1: Saints are 2-5. They were off yesterday. So anyway, that's
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  Speaker 1: how the South is looking. I also got to see
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys' bone blow. 14-point fourth quarter lead at home
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in the history of the franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Through the Cardinals. That one was kind of enjoyable, not
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  Speaker 4: going to lie. I liked that one too. Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 4: up there pounding his fists again, angry. He was mad.
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  Speaker 4: There's that AI thing that goes around that's Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 4: jumping from his suite onto the field and just basically
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  Speaker 4: back ending himself. And I tweeted out yesterday, sarcastically, is
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  Speaker 4: this real? And I want to thank the people out
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  Speaker 4: there that didn't understand that I was joking and trying
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  Speaker 4: to explain to me that it didn't really happen.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for that. I would feel like you'd
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  Speaker 1: be disappointed if your sarcasm doesn't get... One guy said,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't real, man. Why would he kill himself after
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  Speaker 1: a football, guys? I understand that. I get that. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want that, though? I feel like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: like that, when your sarcasm flies above craniums.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's when it's one person, it's one thing. Like
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  Speaker 4: five or six people, all right? Everyone just... I know
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  Speaker 4: it's not real, man. He's not flying through the air
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  Speaker 4: like he's a superhero. What would you think of that
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  Speaker 4: face bounced off, bounced off the turf? I don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's moving anywhere. So we've got Denver coming in next.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be no more zero of arrow. So we're going
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  Speaker 4: to have to find somebody else to scream about. Oh,
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: it could be Bryce Young. It could be Rasheed Walker.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll find someone else to scream about Boney.
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  Speaker 4: And Denver comes in at six and two. Very weird season.
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  Speaker 1: To where Bo Nix is not having a very good season,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll be damned if he ain't having good fourth quarters.
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  Speaker 1: They rallied Bo from 11 down to fourth yesterday. Bo
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  Speaker 1: Nix now has four fourth quarter comebacks, and the defense,
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  Speaker 1: which has not had near the season expected of them statistically,
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  Speaker 1: ends up with a goal line stand. of the Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City Chiefs in the final second. So they come in
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  Speaker 1: riding a high. They took over first place from the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: It's a first-place battle, Bo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm surprised we don't have Nance and J.J. Watt
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  Speaker 4: for this one here. I'd rather, though, the way it operates,
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  Speaker 4: I don't mind that. I'd rather the Broncos not come
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  Speaker 4: in high. Well, this is going to sound like I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing this intentionally, but it's not how I operate here.
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  Speaker 4: I'd rather have the Broncos coming in high on their horse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I see what you did there. Feeling their oats.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Doubting their naysayers. Not having long faces.
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  Speaker 1: Is that written or did you just go over that
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  Speaker 1: top of your head? No, that's just what I'm coming off.
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  Speaker 1: It's flowing, man. Oh, that's good, man. Let me flow.
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  Speaker 4: Let me feel the vibe, man. That's good stuff. I
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  Speaker 4: actually wrote that down about three hours ago.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I was going to say.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I started with the high horse, and I went
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  Speaker 4: to the oats, and I went to the naysayers, and
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  Speaker 4: I went to the long face.
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  Speaker 1: Then I ran out. I'm out now. I'm officially out.
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  Speaker 1: Of horse, of horse buds. America, very upset that the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs had a penalty, had a touchdown that would have
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  Speaker 1: won the game disallowed. America is like, finally, a call
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  Speaker 1: goes against them. Did you see Brittany Mahomes on social media? Oh,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: I did. Brittany Mahomes on social media talked about how, basically,
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  Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here, the call was bull crap and basically
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  Speaker 1: it was because it was us. insinuating that all the
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  Speaker 1: calls go against the Kansas City Chiefs. Listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even a Chiefs hater. I enjoy watching them in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: But even I was like, this is freaking rich. Have
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  Speaker 1: some awareness.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, two teams that never get calls are the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs and Miami Hurricanes. Miami Hurricanes matches, those poor Hurricanes
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  Speaker 4: never get the benefit of the doubt in any games
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  Speaker 4: in the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: How many onside kicks? We'll talk about it next segment,
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  Speaker 1: but how many onside kicks would the Tar Heels have
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  Speaker 1: had to come up with, Bone, where the ACC finally said,
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  Speaker 1: damn it! We'll let you have the ball.
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  Speaker 4: They had to run one touchdown. The Heels had to
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  Speaker 4: run in one touchdown three times. Sean McDonough ran out
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  Speaker 4: of touchdown calls. I mean, it's just, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: that all the calls were necessarily wrong, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about it, but it always feels like Miami's involved in
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  Speaker 4: situations back where they benefit greatly from stuff that goes
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  Speaker 4: on in these games.
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  Speaker 1: The onside kick thing was very reminiscent of the Florida
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  Speaker 1: State Hail Mary caught, and oh, we got holding, and
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  Speaker 1: then the next Hail Mary. No, it wasn't a double catch.
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  Speaker 1: That goes to the defense. Very reminiscent of that. I know.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, poor one out for Mike Norvell.
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  Speaker 1: They finally got him. They finally decided to pay $ 50 million. Imagine,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: there's two things to imagine here as Mike Norvell was fired.
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  Speaker 1: One is, imagine being so bad at your job that
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  Speaker 1: the people in charge say it is worth paying $ 50
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  Speaker 1: million to fire you. Like, that's kind of depressing. But
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  Speaker 1: then when you realize, I get $ 50 million for doing
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  Speaker 1: squat diddly, that's got to be a pretty good feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I've not been fired for $ 50 million, but I
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  Speaker 4: can imagine that at first, the competitor in you probably says, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this sucks, I wanted to win. And then it probably
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  Speaker 4: takes Mac a day or two to realize, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've got $ 50 million. I can afford expensive things like
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: Amazon movie rentals that are $ 20 a piece. You can
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you can live a life of luxury.
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  Speaker 4: You think Mike was struggling with those rentals? Those are
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  Speaker 4: the things I dream of. Can I get a $ 20
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  Speaker 4: movie rental? Not to worry about it. Those are the
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  Speaker 4: things I dream of.
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  Speaker 1: So you think you wouldn't focus on the depressing thought of,
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  Speaker 1: I must be horrible if those people just paid $ 50
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  Speaker 1: million to get rid of me. You wouldn't focus. You
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  Speaker 1: would focus on the positive. I now get $ 50 million
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  Speaker 1: for nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Someone posted the Mount Rushmore of buyouts, and he's up
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  Speaker 4: there with Jimbo, ironically. He's up there on the Mount
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  Speaker 4: Rushmore of buyouts. So, Matt, it's one thing if it's
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  Speaker 4: still a lot of money, but if someone says, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're getting paid $ 6 million, go away.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's still a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: $ 50 million is at a level of, all right, I
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  Speaker 4: think I'll... I'll take my losses here.
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  Speaker 1: I'll find another job somewhere, maybe at a lower level.
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  Speaker 1: And away we go.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just a $ 50 million. Now, who knows how
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  Speaker 4: much money this guy had before? You don't ever have
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  Speaker 4: to work again. You could be like, well, I really sucked.
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  Speaker 4: I really sucked there.
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  Speaker 1: But who the hell cares? I'm made, baby. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Our bosses are thinking that $ 50 million for us to
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  Speaker 4: go away. I got to tell you, I might be
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  Speaker 4: thinking about it there.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't read that fine print in the contract, Boney.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I missed that part, but I would like that. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll talk, obviously, today a bunch, Bone, about Avero
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  Speaker 1: getting fired. I was kind of surprised by the timing.
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  Speaker 1: I will acknowledge, and I said this actually on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: just hours before he ends up getting fired, minutes after
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  Speaker 1: we get off the air, but I said, okay, for
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: the first time, I know many of y'all were about
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  Speaker 1: three years ahead of me, but for the first time
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  Speaker 1: after the Tampa game, I'm kind of like, Yeah, this,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how long, you know what I mean? I wonder,
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  Speaker 1: but I kind of thought end of the season, there'd
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  Speaker 1: be a change. I certainly, Bone, did not see it
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  Speaker 1: coming on Friday, you know?
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  Speaker 4: No, and that Willie P, excellent point right away, brought
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  Speaker 4: up the fact short week.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe they were, had it already. Hey guys. There
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  Speaker 1: you go. Thank you, Willie.
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  Speaker 4: More on you at the end of this hour. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: they already thought Sunday it was over, but they didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to do it on a short week. Yeah, that's
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: a good point. That's a good point by the man known.
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  Speaker 1: As Big Peasy. I think that's a good point. Did
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  Speaker 1: they decide after the atrocious run defense for the second
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: time this season?
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  Speaker 4: Because it wasn't based off of the game against Green Bay.
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  Speaker 4: They actually held their own pretty well in that matchup.
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  Speaker 4: Gave them a chance, kept them in it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the third and longs, Canales called out
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  Speaker 1: the third and longs after the game, so that might
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  Speaker 1: be a telling sign. But they didn't get much pass
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  Speaker 1: rush despite blitzing over half the time, according to PFF.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't get one sack. but he's trying to blitz. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not sure it changes much of anything, Boat,
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  Speaker 1: although they'll get the corners back, and they'll get Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Phillips back, and they'll play better, and Panther fans will
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  Speaker 1: act like Todd Walsh is a genius. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Despite his D-line being a major part of all those
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  Speaker 4: 200-yard rushing games that we all complained about.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's true. There's a lot of things to piece through.
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  Speaker 4: When you fire the coordinators within the season, you're– just
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  Speaker 4: elevating someone that's already on the staff from the same scheme.
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  Speaker 4: So it's probably not going to look a whole lot
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  Speaker 4: different than people expected here.
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  Speaker 1: No, I saw people wondering, would he do more four-man fronts?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: He was a 4-3 defense coordinator in Jacksonville, had three
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: top 10 defenses in Jacksonville. including 2017 when they went
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to the AFC title game, he was coordinating that defense.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like his, his D coordinator resume is
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  Speaker 1: chopped liver. So I will give him that Jonathan Cooley.
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  Speaker 1: I think, is he just too close to a Vero?
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  Speaker 1: They're just like, dude, you were with a Vero in LA.
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  Speaker 1: He brought you here. Ah, get you out of here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: is that basically what's going on? What's he supposed to
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  Speaker 1: do as a passing game defensive coordinator with the cornerbacks?
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I asked one of our football experts, Mac, that'll be
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: on the show today. Frank Garcia, 25. The other day
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: we were texting. I said, what did what did Cooley do?
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Because he was thought as a young, emerging guy. He
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: lost his two guys that you mentioned there. What what
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: did Cooley go wrong? And he's got thoughts on maybe
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: what went wrong for him schematically in various football reasons.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: See, I think what went wrong is he was close
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: to a Girovero. Very well. That's the way I look
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: at it. And by the way, Todd Walsh is a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: guy that was in Seattle with Dave Canales and company.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Dan Morgan, all those guys. So that could be part
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: of this picture as well. But we're definitely going to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: talk about it here on the show. I would deem
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it an up-and-down tenure for Rivera. Some of y'all would
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: deem it like total booty. I don't think he deserved
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: on the way he was talked about by fans. He's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: the worst defensive coach in the history of football. I
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: thought he had two good years here. But he had
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: one atrocious year after they got rid of Burns and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Lou Vu and Derrick Brown got injured in week one.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: this year was shaping up to be a disappointment. Like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to deny that. Now, the injuries have
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: played a role. You don't have both your starting edges,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and you don't have your top four corners. It's not
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: just top two anymore. Now it's your top four corners
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you don't have. But this was shaping up to be
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: a season bone that we expected to be top ten defensively.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, up and down, and I think a lot of
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: the focus was on the bat, especially the year you're
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: talking about a couple years ago. And then, of course,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: as it goes, that, you know, When the fans only
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: sometimes only look at the bad and not necessarily like
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: a year like last year where they rebounded from the
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: bad year. So up and down, I think is probably
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: the best way to describe it with a lot more
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: focus on the bad than when things are actually going right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job last year on
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the whole. Yes. But you wouldn't get a lot of
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Panther fans would tell you was terrible last year. You know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: just because we can remember a few games situationally. you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: with soft defenses. So I will be, Todd Walsh, I'll
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be watching you. I'll be watching you for soft zones.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be watching you for cushions on third down of
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the DBs. I will be policing you. I'm not going
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to let you get away with the stuff that no
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: one out there let Averro get away with, as if
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: he's the only coordinator ever to do these things. All right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm watching. By the way, I'm also watching
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Kyle Larson come very close to wrapping up the championship.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: That was a Ron Rivera missed opportunity for those Gibbsies.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Those Gibbs cars. It's a damn shame, isn't it? Y'all
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: had that amazing regular season, Gibbsies. Kyle Larson, I mean,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know what kind of strategy
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin's team and a couple others and Kyle Larson,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I guess Kyle Larson's trying to You know, mimic Denny
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Hamlin because Hamlin came in in second in the standings.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Why on earth would you decide to stay out the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: whole damn first stage? Made no sense to me. It
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: was horrendous. Worked out horribly for Larson, who lost a lap.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But eventually they got it back, and eventually they got
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that car in the top 10. And, you know, Christopher Bell,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin, Chase Briscoe, those guys, Bone, didn't take advantage.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It's still a 69-point margin. Nice.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Or 67.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: 67-point margin.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: No nice.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Settle yourself down, Gronk. Settle yourself down over there. All right. Oh,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: by the way, William Byron won the race. Pretty good
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: day for Hendrick. Chase Elliott finished second. So pretty good
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: day for Hendrick. I'm very upset at your guy, Kyle Larson,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: right now. I was okay with Hamlin winning this thing
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: at that. he was going to retire. Do we have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: another year of Hamlin coming up now? Yes, but we
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: have another year where he ain't a champ. That's a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: good point. I want that man to retire with no titles.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Denny. I'm sorry you've been through a lot, man.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: It's just sports, baby. It's just sports. Don't take it personal, Denny.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It's just you. Like Sidney Sweeney says in the ad,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Just sports. Oh, my God.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Sidney, I urge you, do not put that in a
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: promo for the opening of the show, please. Because I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: seeing Mac's head on Sidney's body.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. It's not horrible, but it's not necessarily
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: good for 6AM. Anybody else ever watch that commercial with your...
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Usually alone with a glass of wine. Okay, then you
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: might not be in this boat. No, you're not. With
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: your significant other and your 17-year-old son... That was a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: very interesting dynamic. Murphy likes it. Well, I would put
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Mac Jr. in Murphy's camp then. He seemed to be
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: enjoying himself. Mrs. Mac got a little triggered. Got a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: little triggered over that ad. Ah, that was fun.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: When we come back, college football weekend recap, a bunch
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: of big wins for local teams, close calls for Charlotte
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and UNC, and a whole bunch of Phillip Rivers chatter. And, Mac,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: we say goodbye to our picks expert, Picante.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. It's all over. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. All right, coach,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: obviously your name's out there for your alma mater.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Where, where are you on that?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: What do you think? Yeah. I mean, I shoot NC
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: state special to me and, um, you know, go store
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and go store and shoot what he did over 14
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: years and all time winning as coaches is, uh, is
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: a ton of respect and appreciation for how he, how
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: he went about it with the university. And, um, you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: there's nothing, there's nothing there at this point. No, you understand,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like I told you earlier in the week, you understand
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the chatter that's out there. Um, Gotta take it one
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: day at a time, is all I know. I'm excited
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: about this postseason with these guys here. And I guess
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: it's like I told you last year, you never say never,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: but there's nothing imminent.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that, Philly Riv. I'm not sure
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: if I believe you. That is Phillip Rivers after his
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: high school football team's game on Friday night. Talked with
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a local reporter down there that has really amused Philly,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: really amused him. And it says nothing imminent. But right
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: after that clip went viral on Saturday, Bone, there started
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: being an awful lot of reports from the national insiders.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They might not have used eminent, but they use words
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like heating up. Talk's getting serious. Sounds like, Bone, from
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the Bruce Feldman article yesterday in The Athletic, that Rivers
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: wants to finish his high school season. They have a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: playoff game coming up, and it kind of sounds like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that's something. Obviously, there's negotiations going on, it sounds like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: about the amount of NIL money, about the amount of
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: money to pay the staff and those sort of things.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But it just feels inevitable at this point, doesn't it? Yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: it does.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: It seems like from all that we read from the
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: national folks. The other thing is, Matt, get so much
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: on Philip Rivers that I don't even really hear much
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: chatter of anybody else right now. I know that they're
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: early in the process of this. They got out ahead
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: of it like. like Virginia tech did last year in
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Penn state. A lot of teams did last year and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: you kind of have to now in some ways, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not even seeing the national people, whether it's Bruce Feldman,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Pete Thamel, all the guys in the know, you're not
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: even seeing other names even up there. It's usually someone
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: will say, well, you know, they like Phillip rivers, but
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: keep your eye on so-and-so.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: We see names, but it doesn't feel like they're even
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: considering anybody else.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Sounds like they're all in on rivers. And it's just
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a matter of, does he want to do this? and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: make the jump. It kind of feels like he will.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Won't take him much to recruit.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: All he's got to do back is go downstairs and say, hey,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: who wants to play for dad?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And then six people run out. That's their recruiting class.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Of course, Gunner will be with him. If he does
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: go there, Gunner is already committed to NC State. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I understand it's an NIL. It's a revenue.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's a money world. And he will be a great fundraiser.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He has no college coaching experience. Hell, his high school
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: team's 6-4 this season. It's not like he's some dominant
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: high school coach.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the football part of me says, yeah, I don't know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: The radio content person says we've got Phillip Rivers and
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick going against each other.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: What the hell, man? Let's go. Let's have at it here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe Phillip can find a way to beat Belichick once.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Didn't they— I feel like that's another team Belichick owned,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't it? I know playoffs when Rivers was playing through
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like a torn ACL. Yeah, that was a hell of
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a performance, yeah. And LaDainian Tomlinson didn't want to play
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: through a hangnail. Anyway, I digress. I digress. But, yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that would be fascinating.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick was 8-1 versus Rivers as a head coach.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, it's not like I came up with
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: some great secret here. He succeeded against everybody in the pros.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This was a weekend. NC State got a big win
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: this weekend with Todd Goble as head coach. Interim coach,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: they win 31-10. There were some local teams with some
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: really freaking good performances. Absolutely. I mean, it really was. Like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you throw in the State. State and Duke in that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: noon window on Saturday. They both win handily. I didn't
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: know how NC State was going to react, Bone. Seems
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like they came out kind of ready to take maybe
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: their frustrations out on Cal, whose season is really going
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: into the tank right now. They win by 21. Bailey
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: was good. Their defense was really freaking good from State.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: which I haven't been saying at all this season. Duke,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? 44-2, Bodie? What a hilarious score
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in and of itself.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I believe, Mac, you shortchanged them. I believe it was 47-2. Okay.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: 44-2 is when I said I'm good with this game.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: My bad. They got another field goal after that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Real Duke fans watched until that last three went on
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the board. I admit, I was a little bit concerned
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: with the way that BC had been running the football.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: But my, Nate Shepard had five touchdowns. Didn't really need
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: him much beyond that. He didn't even get 100 yards
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: because they took him out so early in the game.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a hell of a performance. Duke
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: now sits at... Six and two. And again, I wouldn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: have guessed at the beginning of the year with all
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: they lost, new quarterback, no Mensa, no Barkay, that they'd
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: be ahead of last year. But here they sit.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: What a job.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: He gets also, Ben, he's had some really rough moments
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: there with some throws, but it's kind of settled down
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks and has just kind of
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: managed the operation well.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: It depends what kind of version you get, but it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered. You could have played quarterback and won
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that game. Baker Mayfield could have played quarterback in that game.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, Duke's defense was dominant. BC didn't score
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a point on offense. They didn't score a point on defense.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It was their day of special teams blocking a kick,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the lowest extra point attempt I've ever seen bone. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it gets blocked and caught and run back for two points.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Other than that, it would have been a 47 to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: nothing shutout.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: If you would have told me that this year Duke
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: would be up 47-2 on BC, I would have said, well,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: that basketball team really got off to.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: A good start. Oh, that's hilarious, man. I love it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I love it. Let's see. Duke NC State this weekend. Yeah, interesting.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Interesting game. Manny Diaz, by the way, continues to do
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: great stuff with one of the smallest revenue budgets to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: pay players in Power 4 football.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: It's just remarkable. Hey, Florida State, pause off. Pause off.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: That's an obvious link. Don't make me go on my
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: wall and try to send some money to the program.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Although Florida State, having to pay that $ 50 million to Norvell,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: they might have your money left. The basketball ticket prices,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: if I go to a game, that'll cover half of it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Palmetto State squads. with decisive wins. South Carolina really with
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a decisive win on Saturday over Oklahoma. Clemson ends up
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: putting up 36 points. The 130th ranked offense in the country.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: That'll get you fired. When the number 130 offense puts
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: up 36 on you, that apparently was the final straw
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: for Mikey Norvell. But a 79-yard run by Tate Reynolds
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: breaks it open. He had a couple of touchdown passes, too.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And South Carolina, we said it on Friday, if Lenora
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Sellers can eliminate the interceptions... He might be a damn
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: near perfect quarterback. He had two of them. One, I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: will point out, Bone, should have been another touchdown pass.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Black dropped it in the damn end zone. It was
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a perfect deep ball. But the combination of Lenora Sellers
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: running the ball and throwing the ball deep is absolutely
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: filthy right now, man. Yeah, he's playing. I mean, yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that's Mac.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: We just, as I said on Friday, we just have
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: to acknowledge that there's always going to be some sort
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: of turnover in these games.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Two more.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: But the good is far outweighing those now. Throws for 300.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: runs for 96 at 7.4 yards per carry. This is
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the guy, and this is the reason why... Todd McShay
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: still had him as a top 10 player in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: draft coming up, despite the struggles this year, because the
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: upside is so high. If they can just figure out, Mac,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the mistakes there.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: The sky's the limit for this kid right now. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: we said, what a big game that is. They avoided
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: the letdown that so many teams, they called the SEC flu,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: by the way, the Shane Beamer, South Carolina term. They
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: avoided that. Now it's A & M and Arkansas. I'm
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: starting to believe again.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You should be. I'm not calling out Georgia. They play
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal defense, play great, too. I'm not calling out
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Georgia in a few weeks, but I'm also not calling
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: out Georgia in a few weeks. You're feeling frisky. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: wonder if game day might end up being there for
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that game. It's possible. It's definitely possible. Let's play the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: clip you were talking about, because this is Shane Beamer's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: latest clip that has gone viral and annoyed people. He
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: really has a knack for saying things in these pressers
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that have people triggered. And yes, who was the reporter
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: who during the week talked about like the SEC flu?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: When you win a big game, you lose it the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: next time. uh was it dave david cloninger yeah that's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: his name it was right it wasn't jordan k right
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: because that was in the other soundbite he had okay
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: he caught out both guys this weekend guys got shout
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: outs i think it was david cloninger but listen to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: this this is how shane beamer opened his press conference
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and you judge if it triggers you as.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Well y'all yeah really awesome night proud of our football
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: team uh we challenged them all week nobody in the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: sec has been able to do what we did tonight
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and that's come off a big win and followed it
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: up the very next week with another big win. So
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: there's your SEC flu, David, that you asked me about
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the other day. We didn't get it tonight. We stayed healthy,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and it's been a big point of emphasis all week
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: for us to be able to respond after last week.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And last week wasn't just a big win.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was an emotional win. It wasn't like
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: we had that game under control, and it wasn't emotional.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was a mentally and physically draining game
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. But our guys came right
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: back to work on Sunday, practiced their butts off all week,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and then played their butts off tonight.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Just really, really, really physical. I'm never bothered by this man, Mac.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Never have been, never will be. Something no one else
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: can do. Kentucky fans I saw triggered because they beat
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: A & M and then followed up beating South Carolina.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: He has an air about him and these pressers, whether
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: they win or lose, that like– I get it. I
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: get it. I think at heart, I think he's a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: really good dude, really good family man. But he has this–
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the way he carries himself is interesting.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: It's part of what I think drives the Gamecock fans
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: nuts when they lose. Right now, they're not going to
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: be that way. By the way, you mentioned Kentucky, Matt.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: They're part of the absolutely ridiculously loaded-up weekend. Coming up,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Kentucky-Tennessee is going to be a fabulous matchup this weekend.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: One of about seven games this weekend. It's one of
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: those can't-miss Saturdays in college. Not that we miss a
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: lot of them, but this is top-to-bottom weekend.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Miami-Notre Dame, obviously, is the headliner. That's a top-four matchup.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss-Georgia is at the same time as Miami-Notre Dame. BYU-Utah. Kentucky-Tennessee,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss-Georgia, Miami-Notre Dame are all at the same time
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: on Saturday night.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: We've got to talk, obviously, about Carolina taking Miami to
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the death. I didn't think it was possible to do that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: We've got to talk about the Deacs. Trigonometry says, how
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: about the Deacs? Wake Forest beats the break, so I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: not acting like Virginia's great, but the way Wake Forest
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: comes out and just snatches your soul immediately on both
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: sides of the ball, I'm really wondering... how high they
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: really rank in terms of how good of a team
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: They didn't move up after that win in a poll.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Did they stay at 14? Yeah, they stayed at 14.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: They absolutely decimated Virginia. And I will say, a team
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: that Duke had to use a touchdown pass from Nate
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Shepard to beat days ago, and they go in there,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: and it's just... They, Maggie, I'm not sure that if
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: they play Miami again that they're not very close to competing,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: like almost beating Miami.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Florida State and Carolina were right there on the verge.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And as Myron points out, Miami seems to get the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: calls at the end. I don't care if any Tar
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Heel fan says anything about that today because I think
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Bone said it earlier. I think we're all noticing Miami.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: It's very, it's just always seeming to go, not just
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: this year. It just always seems to break in their
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: favor all the way back, back a decade ago with
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Duke had the, the crazy, you know, lateral return game.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It's been going on for a while now where two
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: years ago, remember that Virginia tech late and Cal late
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Miami benefits from a lot of these calls intriguing. It's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a little intriguing. I'm watching it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Gio Lopez did get hurt bone. Looked like a knee,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so we don't know what's up with that. He was
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: standing up and kind of walking around and going out
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and celebrating with guys after he was out of that game.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Jake Dicker was asked about not pulling him. They were
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: up 37-0 when Gio got hurt. I noticed that, too.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: He said it was literally his last series. So it's
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: one of those.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: To show you what a big time performance that was
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: by the heels, even in a loss overnight. They have
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: signed four star quarterback from Marvin Ridge, Levi Curry. He
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: chose the Tar Heels over Michigan and Mississippi State. He's
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: the No. 11 quarterback in the 2028 Rivals 300. So,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: benefit from performing well. As Finney pointed out, even in
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: a loss, being in that spot, performing well, did the
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Heels a lot.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, Belichick's doing some coaching. There's no doubt about it. Now,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out if him and Jordan
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: are together or not. There were conflicting reports this weekend.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out, Bone, if I can
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: still root on love. Because if these two crazy kids
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: can't make it, who can? Me and Maddie. Who can
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in this world? Look at Finney. You all right there?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Finney.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was Jared. Finney has always been
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: an arrogant little fella. He now has taken his arrogance
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: bone to his relationship now. He now has relationship arrogance.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Who says that on the radio after this short period
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: of time? A man who has found his soulmate. He's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: found his soulmate. Oh, God. He's hanging on to her
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: for dear life right now. I think she's hanging on
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to him, though. Like, it seems like they're mutual hanging.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: radio program, sounds of the weekend, including Willie P's goal call.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Alan St. Maximin. Maxi with some
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: space in front of him. Maxi toward the arc. Maxi
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to shot.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: He scores!
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: Alan St.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Maximin makes it happen!
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: His first Bank of America Stadium goal! And it is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a banger! Yes, it was, P-Man, and there were a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: bunch of bangers for Charlotte FC. Four goals in a
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: four-goal shutout clean sheet victory over Orlando on Saturday. Someone
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: got their bangers mashed. More on that in a second here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: What on earth does bone mean, you might be thinking
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to yourself. More on that in a second. But it
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: was a tremendous performance by Charlotte FC coming off the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: heels of a 3-0 shutout. Kalina had a couple of
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: great saves in that game. And Charlotte FC is in
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: fifth bone. They can do no worse than fifth in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the seeding. They go to Miami for the final game
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: of the season Saturday at 4. If they were to win...
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And they get a draw or a loss from Chicago.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: They would then host the four or five best of
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: three series. If not, they are then. Playing Chicago. We
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: know we're playing Chicago, but they would then, Bone, or
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: not host. You know what I'm saying? Have home field. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Play at home for two of the three, essentially. If not,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: then Chicago will play at home for two of the three.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Bone was referencing what Alan St. Maximum did after that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: amazing run through the middle and the finish. He was
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: finished for the day with a red card. When he
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: gets into Jolin with an Orlando player, and decides to just,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'll say it in a PG yet descriptive way. He
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: went to the Magic Kingdom. He grabbed the goodies, all right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: is what he did. hey you know what i mean
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: kind of like hey here's what i think of you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that apparently gets you a red card at least to
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that ref refereeing crew dean smith said he doesn't think
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that should be a red card i kind of thought
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't that just be a yellow card like what do
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you think would happen bone to somebody in football or
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: basketball if they did that like is that like ejecting
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you from the game.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: No it's probably like a 15 yard it's portion of
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: light conduct So I don't think it would be number
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: 57 is gone, grabbing a man's goodies.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You know what? Your goodies, don't
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: put them there. Here's the thing. The game was over.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: We had kicked their rear ends. Didn't matter that he
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: was gone for the last 10 minutes. What does matter
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is he can't play against Miami when we're trying to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: get the fourth seed. And trying to get home field.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's, and this has happened literally every year
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: for the last three years in some way, shape or form.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Last year, it was it was the red card for
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Zaha going into the playoffs or to the last week
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: of the season, the week before Pepe, the year before
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Pepe in the playoffs. Yes. It's like, what is it
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: with these star players? Doing this, getting red cards during
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: crunch time. It's insane.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: In situations that are mostly avoidable also in a lot
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: of these things, too.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: That's what sucks about it. Definitely. But also there's the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: element of, like, why is that warning being kicked out
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of the game and sat for the next game? No,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense. Again, like, if
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I'm coaching you soccer, little Joey's going to sit on
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the bench, right? Little Joey's going to be taken out
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of the game and given a stern talking to. But
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't understand grown men. I don't. Does it have
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to be that harsh of a punishment? Not to miss
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the next game. Or do I lack values that you
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: want from your morning radio host? I don't know. We
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: probably do, but we also want wins. Screw values. Let's
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: get to some more sounds of the weekend. Let's get
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to Dave Canales, who did a presser. It was about
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a 22-minute long presser bone on Friday. Regularly scheduled. Friday
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: postgame presser, but oh, did they have something to talk
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: about with the firing announced on Friday morning of Averro
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and Jonathan Cooley and Canales. Certainly, you knew it was coming.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Was this your move? Was this something that someone above
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you made? Listen to this.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Involved in the process the whole time. Ultimately, this is
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: my decision. This falls squarely under the responsibilities of the
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: head coach, and so As I was evaluating it and
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: looking for what was best for the 2026 Carolina Panthers,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: this was a decision that we discussed and weighed in
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: all the factors, the timing of it, the position of
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: our group, all of those things to make the best
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: decision going forward. But ultimately, it had to come from me,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: and it had to come from something that I believe
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: in and that I want for our players.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So he's referring to Tepper, Morgan, and Tillisbone, who he
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: consulted on it. He's never going to come out and say, yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: David Tepper told me to do it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if he's involved and you're meeting with him
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: and Tepper says something's got to change and go ahead
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: and figure out what it is, well, that's on you
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: to figure out what might need to be changed. So Tepper,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sure if he's involved in the meeting, probably had
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: a lot to do with what he saw because he's
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: only going to sit around for so long, Mac, and watch–
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: the defense like he did on Sunday at home have
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: so many of those performances. He already saw one against Chicago.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: At home, he saw another one, and eventually he's going
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: to say something's got to give here.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: How does Tepper feel about the O-line play? I'd like
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to know that as well because that's the biggest problem,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: or at least was on Thursday night. You're right. Maybe
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the decision was made on Sunday, and like Willie said, hey,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they're not going to fire him on a short week.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: But let's get to Jeremy Fowler from ESPN who was
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: on with– Uh, Rich Eisen Friday, right after this news broke, um, uh, with,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you know, talking to sources here in Carolina and, and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: discussing the firing of a Vero.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: It's not really a question of the caliber or the
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: coach more. So I, I think Canalis had to shake
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: things up a little bit, sitting at three and four,
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: their expectation in Carolina is to make the playoffs this year.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: And even though the offense has been underwhelming, uh, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: it's sort of is what it is on that side
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: of the ball. Canalis is an offensive coach. Brad is
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: his offensive coordinator. That's not changing. So they went ahead
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: and made some changes on the other side of the ball.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Something had to change, and this is what they changed. Now,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: in fairness, the offense has only been underwhelming the last
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: two games. Before that, it was pretty strong. I would
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: argue the defense has been pretty good for all but
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: two games. But those two games, the defense was embarrassingly,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: pathetically bad. So, yeah, you wonder. I can't get the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: thoughts out of my head of David Tepper saying earlier
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: this year at a presser, this is a playoff team.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: And how much pressure that implies and how much pressure
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Dave might feel because of that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: And also, when he says they're a playoff team, does
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: he mean, hey, winning the South and backing in a
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: bad division is good enough? Or does he mean a
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: team within the playoffs that he sees can go on
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: and do something within the playoffs? Because certainly they could
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: still be a playoff team in the South. But can
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: they actually be competitive in the postseason? If that's what
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: he's wanting, right now it doesn't appear like that.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like, are you still picking the Panthers in the South?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell to do with this
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: division anymore. Well, at some point... I mean, because the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: last two weeks, Bonk, God dang, man. Yeah, what's our
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: South formula here, man?
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: At some point, Tampa Bay's going to throw the ball again,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: don't they?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay may never complete a pass again and win
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: this division.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: They may wear weather helmets out there going forward. That
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: defense and run game in Tampa... Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Ask
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Michael Penix. Ask Gisiero Avero. And we play them, again,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: not too far from now, actually. You know, it's not
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: that far away when we play the Bucs on Monday
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Night Football again. Yeah, it's Denver, Baltimore, and then Tampa, right?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's coming up pretty soon. They are
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: pounding the football and pounding the offensive players that have
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the ball with that defense. Last clip here. We're going
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about it more. We got plenty to say.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all got plenty of text in about Averro
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: getting fired. And does this spark anything? But we've got
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to give Wake fans a little bit of love here.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: This is... We were talking about them earlier. Deke fans
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: were saying, hey, how about our boys? How about our boys?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: They look amazing. And Joshua Perry on the NBC studio
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: show brought them up. When they were asked the question
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: on the panel, Tuesday will be the first reveal of
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff rankings. What are you most curious
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to see? And Joshua Perry brought up Wake. Curious about
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: I'm very curious about how much respect they give to
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: the team that could potentially be the second one coming
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: out of the ACC. Nicole, you and I always talk
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: about how many teams get in from each conference and
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: what do the pathways look like. This initial ranking is
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: going to tell us a lot about what they think
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: about both the ACC, but also just that specific Wake Forest.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Team in general.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So there you go. It is going to be interesting, Bone,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: because to me, eye test wise, they look like that's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: one of the 12 best teams. They are dominant on
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball right now.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: They are 16th in total offense in the country, but
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: 35th in total defense.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And that is.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: that's a reason why they found another level of dominance.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Under Clawson at times, despite how good he was, it
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: was more offensive heavy. Remember some UNC games against Sam
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Howe where they'd have to go score 40? Now there's
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: a balance there. They're doing a great job on both
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: sides of the ball. But is the committee going to say, yeah,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: that's great.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Who are you beating? You know what I mean? That's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the concern I have for Wake.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: And that big game against SMU also on the Notre
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Dame side and the Wake Forest side that we looked
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: at SMU as a ranked team for those for Wake
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: and Notre Dame down the line. Well, SMU was in
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: the Syracuse. That's a big hit there.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: It is. That's true. And they've got them in two weeks.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: They were not ready for that jelly. I saw. How
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: about that jelly? Two big wins since coming back. How
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: about this? I saw this from, again, this has nothing.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much this has to do with
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: where the committee will rank Wake tomorrow night, Bone. But
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I was watching the Wake game in the second half,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and they put this graphic up. FPI has Wake. If
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: they win out but lose to Miami for a second
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: time in the ACC title game, fpi from espn has
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: him with a 96 chance to make the playoff wow
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: wow and i just really i would love it for
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: them But is the committee going to respect their schedule
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and their wins? Or is the committee going to say,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: y'all see that SEC gauntlet for all those three lost
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: SEC squads? I'm just skeptical.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: If I had to guess when we're talking Wednesday about this,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: we're going to be annoyed by the way Wake Forest
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: was probably treated. Just a complete guess on my part.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of, man. But I'm pulling
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: for the Deacs. I saw the athletic.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: That was big that Miami keeps on winning for them, too,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: to make sure that that game at the end.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. And we don't know
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: if they'll win this week. You gotta go to South Bend.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: The athletic, I saw their like bracket projections. They had
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: wake in as the 11 seed and they had them
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: playing Kentucky as a six seed. I'm like, bro, if
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: they get in and play Kentucky, oh, they can win
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to Will Stein. He's a great coach. But
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: that is definitely winnable if they would get that. By
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the way, a real quick note on rankings.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Gamecock's back to being ranked in the AP poll.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go, Beams. How about that?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: radio program, Panthers fire Avero and Cooley. How do we
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: feel about the timing of the move? And will this
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: make a difference? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.