Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Vocal De Frag Episode 216 Ghosting Friends Is Lifelong Not Suddenly
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's not just a podcast. It's a podcast network. That
- 0:02Speaker 1: was my vision in 2010, to create a network where
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- 0:27Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hey, Saro, and this is Vocal Defrag.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Vocal Defrag is taking the time to ask yourself the
- 0:34Speaker 1: questions and question the answers. Seems like an easy task
- 0:38Speaker 1: to do, right? It's either easy to do, not easy
- 0:42Speaker 1: to do, a pain in the ass to do, or
- 0:45Speaker 1: I don't have time to do it. That's usually what
- 0:47Speaker 1: I hear. And yet, if you were to take the
- 0:50Speaker 1: time to ask yourself the questions... And then just ask
- 0:53Speaker 1: yourself some simple questions. You don't have to go balls
- 0:55Speaker 1: to the wall crazy and sit there and interrogate yourself
- 0:59Speaker 1: like you're watching an episode of 60 Minutes or CBS
- 1:02Speaker 1: Sunday Morning. Just ask yourself the questions and then question
- 1:06Speaker 1: the answers. This is Vocal Defragging. Big, big, big, big
- 1:09Speaker 1: subject today. The friendships that we had when we were
- 1:13Speaker 1: growing up. You know, the ones you're always thinking about
- 1:16Speaker 1: because at the drop of a hat, a flashback comes back.
- 1:21Speaker 1: a girl you once knew, a guy that you hung
- 1:23Speaker 1: out with, you chummed up with, and your parents hated it,
- 1:26Speaker 1: but you loved the fact that your parents didn't like
- 1:28Speaker 1: it because it made you look like a rebel. Those relationships,
- 1:32Speaker 1: they felt so real, so genuine. And yet, where are
- 1:36Speaker 1: they at today? Why didn't they continue moving forward? Okay,
- 1:40Speaker 1: so I set you up with that. Because if you
- 1:42Speaker 1: look at today's relationships, your co-workers, your family members, your neighbors,
- 1:48Speaker 1: or people you meet at a Starbucks every day, or
- 1:51Speaker 1: a grocery store, you have this relationship with people. And
- 1:57Speaker 1: then you think, oh my God, they ghosted me. They're gone.
- 2:02Speaker 1: What am I going to do? How am I going
- 2:04Speaker 1: to react? In fact, I wrote a song one time.
- 2:06Speaker 1: It was back in 2012 that was based solely 100%
- 2:09Speaker 1: on a friendship that I had with this fellow mobile
- 2:13Speaker 1: entertainer that happened to be good friends with my wife.
- 2:17Speaker 1: And the one thing that I put in that song was,
- 2:20Speaker 1: Where were you when things were up, when they were down?
- 2:24Speaker 1: Where were you when things went wrong, went right? Where
- 2:28Speaker 1: were you? Because that's the way you feel when those
- 2:31Speaker 1: people that we assume are our modern day adult friends
- 2:36Speaker 1: are going to be with us all the way to
- 2:38Speaker 1: the end. And yet, those childhood friends that seemingly come
- 2:43Speaker 1: up in thought at the drop of a hat, the
- 2:47Speaker 1: scent of a perfume, or just the view of the
- 2:49Speaker 1: mountain range, and you're right back to being a child again.
- 2:53Speaker 1: But we don't do that with our adult friends. Or
- 2:56Speaker 1: we do in the way of instantly writing it off, saying, ah,
- 2:59Speaker 1: what the hell? They ghosted me. Why don't we accuse
- 3:03Speaker 1: our childhood friends of ghostiness as well? Because I can
- 3:08Speaker 1: sit here, and I can write down on a sheet
- 3:11Speaker 1: of paper the number of people that I hung with
- 3:15Speaker 1: as a preteen and as a teen, who I hung
- 3:18Speaker 1: out with, in my early days of radio versus my
- 3:21Speaker 1: present day of podcasting. I'm still a broadcaster because I'll
- 3:25Speaker 1: forever look at that because any type of communication and
- 3:29Speaker 1: you're broadcasting. Now, journalists will look at me and say,
- 3:32Speaker 1: you're absolutely wrong. Our word is not broadcasting, it's journalism. Okay,
- 3:37Speaker 1: you got me, but that doesn't mean I have to
- 3:39Speaker 1: call your friend. I mean, that seems to be the
- 3:42Speaker 1: way that we are as adults. We can have a
- 3:45Speaker 1: conversation all you want. We can talk about your cat,
- 3:48Speaker 1: your dog, your sick brother, your neighbors that are driving
- 3:52Speaker 1: you crazy because you've got a red roof and everybody
- 3:54Speaker 1: else has got a green roof. But you know what?
- 3:57Speaker 1: In the process of trying to develop that and digest it,
- 4:00Speaker 1: what happens is, is we find ourselves creating distance. And
- 4:05Speaker 1: is that what we did as kids, those preteens and teens,
- 4:09Speaker 1: with those people that we surrounded ourselves with? And here's
- 4:11Speaker 1: the thing that always falls in my heart. As a kid,
- 4:14Speaker 1: you're doing everything you can to play the popularity game.
- 4:17Speaker 1: You want to be liked. You want to be loved.
- 4:19Speaker 1: You want to be included, accepted. You want to be
- 4:22Speaker 1: in that moment of now. And as an adult, we
- 4:25Speaker 1: kind of, sort of still have that ambition to play
- 4:30Speaker 1: that game. I mean, we're all over social media, really
- 4:32Speaker 1: seriously break it down. I think it's a popularity game.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You want people to see what you're thinking. Nowadays, you
- 4:38Speaker 1: can say it and walk away from it. But do
- 4:41Speaker 1: you say it? Face to face. Well, no, I don't.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Or the reason why I don't do it is because
- 4:46Speaker 1: that person will never talk to me again. I don't care.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Your childhood friends aren't talking to you. I mean, every
- 4:51Speaker 1: now and then you might jot down a text message
- 4:53Speaker 1: or you might send some sort of word to them
- 4:56Speaker 1: through social media. But are you really having that chem
- 4:59Speaker 1: it up party? Would I go out and go to
- 5:01Speaker 1: a beer kegger with with my friends that I did
- 5:04Speaker 1: when I was a preteen or a teenager? Yeah, we
- 5:06Speaker 1: drank while we were teenagers. I don't support it today.
- 5:10Speaker 1: But back then it just wasn't the thing. Nobody said,
- 5:13Speaker 1: don't let your teenagers drink. Well, we had laws. I mean,
- 5:16Speaker 1: you had to be 18, where I grew up in Montana,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and we were pumping up the volume when it came
- 5:22Speaker 1: to alcohol at 14, 15, and 16. I don't suggest
- 5:26Speaker 1: that for anybody. I totally believe that there should be
- 5:29Speaker 1: rules made. But is that what my friendship was all
- 5:33Speaker 1: about with my preteens and my teenage friends? And I
- 5:37Speaker 1: got to be honest with you, yeah. Yeah, I think so.
- 5:41Speaker 1: It's not necessarily who were your friends with, but who
- 5:44Speaker 1: was your party buddy? Oh, how are you in that
- 5:49Speaker 1: department as an adult? If you were to remove the
- 5:52Speaker 1: alcohol from your life, would those friendships at the local bar,
- 5:56Speaker 1: the pub, the sports place, or even at a grocery store,
- 5:59Speaker 1: wine and beer bar, would it all just fizzle apart
- 6:03Speaker 1: and fade away? Just like the images and the connections
- 6:06Speaker 1: that you had with your teenage friends. See, those are
- 6:09Speaker 1: the questions that that you need to ask yourself and
- 6:12Speaker 1: then question the answers. It's going to help you understand
- 6:17Speaker 1: your ability and inability to develop and or destroy what
- 6:21Speaker 1: is seen and or described or defined as what a
- 6:24Speaker 1: real friendship is. And do you need to have so
- 6:29Speaker 1: many people on that friendship list? Oh, I face that
- 6:32Speaker 1: every day and I've done so much research on them
- 6:35Speaker 1: because the older you get in life, the fewer amount
- 6:38Speaker 1: of people you want to have around you. Now, Why
- 6:41Speaker 1: is that? I think it's because you just get tired
- 6:45Speaker 1: of the weight. Everybody's got the weight. And I'm talking
- 6:50Speaker 1: about both sides of the weight. The weight we carry
- 6:55Speaker 1: and the weight waiting for a friend to show up. W-A-I-T.
- 7:02Speaker 1: And here's the thing I think that really did change me.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Although I wrote that song about my friend who basically
- 7:10Speaker 1: ghosted me, The end result is we talk occasionally. And
- 7:16Speaker 1: I've had to deal with that. We are supposed to
- 7:19Speaker 1: ghost each other. That's called personal growth. Nowhere is it
- 7:24Speaker 1: written that you are to have a relationship with one
- 7:26Speaker 1: person for your entire life. Does that mean that marriages
- 7:30Speaker 1: can fall apart? What do you mean can? They do.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Does that mean that you can't be best friends with
- 7:38Speaker 1: a past lover? Sure, you can be best friends with them.
- 7:42Speaker 1: But it comes with rules now. You're walking a different path.
- 7:46Speaker 1: You don't have to be so open and so giving.
- 7:48Speaker 1: And what is it? The after divorce sex? Please don't
- 7:52Speaker 1: do it. It's not worth the wait. And I'm talking
- 7:55Speaker 1: about both waits. Waiting for a friend or the weight
- 8:00Speaker 1: of the relationship on your heart. Ask yourself the questions.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Question the answers. Don't give it to a friend. Please
- 8:09Speaker 1: don't do that. The reason why is because your friend
- 8:12Speaker 1: hasn't walked in your shoes. They may be going through
- 8:14Speaker 1: some of the same circumstances as you, but their foot
- 8:18Speaker 1: is not in your shoe. You gotta watch what you're doing.
- 8:23Speaker 1: And I do like the old people approach. The fewer,
- 8:26Speaker 1: the better. I'm Errol, and that's Steve Raheem.