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S3 Ep15 - Trinity FC 3 - Ft Lauderdale 0 · Pegasus

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: It was the worst of times.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was the best of times.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_01: And that's all I know from that book.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: But sorry.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_01: My name is Rich.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm here with Jesse and with Michaela after uh Dallas Trinity wins against uh Fort Lauderdale.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's Forts.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: 3-0.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Forts came to town.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Sports came to town to the Cotton Bowl.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um and tonight we got to drink from the Horn of Victory.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: So it was brilliant.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: You brought this Horn of Victory, and I was skeptical before this.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know if I would wanted to drink from the Horn of Victory.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_02: But you did.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: But I did, and it was good.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: But the Horn of Victory, and we'll come on to this, we'll talk about the game.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: The Horn of Victory, first of all, we have to be really real.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like I took a lot of flack about the attitude about this match and this.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: But at halftime of this match, it was not looking that great.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: We were pretty frustrated.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: Worst of times.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: It was not great.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: But we did exactly what we should do.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like the minimum of what we should do.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's good to drink from the horn of victory, but at the same time, we've got to really show as a club, as a unit, as a team, individually, as players, like we've got to like do this against teams that are aren't Fort Lauderdale, aren't the last last place team, and who don't go down a man.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Michaela, how are you thinking?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like give me something about this match.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um about about the start, about the end, about the beginning, about the middle, anything.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: I called it I so terrible, terrible thing at the beginning of the game.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I guessed um Cam would score.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was wrong.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: But she tried.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: She tried really hard and she was in the entire game.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was also like, they're gonna get a red card.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: But we better win.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because I need a win.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: We all need a win.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I just needed a win.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's really how I went in, you know.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: So you had so you had predictions of Cam would score, didn't hit that one, but you thought you might we might get a red tonight?
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no I didn't think I didn't think we would get a red, but I was like, they're gonna go down a player.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was a red would hit might happen.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, there was gonna be a red on the field.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know how it fully happened, but I know that it happened.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know if it was a double yellow yellows.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's a double yellow same person.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's stupid on you.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that's the one.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I think I think that you know there were a couple of times where um our section, you know, yelled, hey Paul, sit down at their head coach, stop complaining.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: And part of it is is and the part of his reason for complaining is that their players were getting called for really just lousy fouls.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: And but it's like it's one of those things where it's like you've trained the team to do this.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like that really seemed like their game plan in the first half was was muck it up and they they did.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the first time we saw this game plan.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: We so we obviously want to rack up the possession, rack up the the passes, and try to exert our pressure that way.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, DC.
• 3:13
  unknown: Oh my god.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: What was our last home game?
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Olo's home lead game.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm drawing a blank on the last home league game.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: But it's not the first time an opponent showed up and it's like, we're going to slow the game down, we're going to break the the break up the play by fouling um and doing all this.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was good that we're playing our way and we're doing all this, but that first half, like let's talk about that first half.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_02: That first half was wildly frustrating.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I think before we get into what we really are feeling generally about the team and about the season, let's talk about that first half.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think that was a frustrating first half, Rich.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I was it frustrating?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was I was so it's like I told you, it's like it's like combined with last week's game, this was 135 minutes of watching really frustrating football from this team.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, just couldn't put I like like you, like you and I said, like, we were gonna set the record for for passing in our own half.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, like I mean, in a game.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, it was just, it's like we couldn't get out.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and it just felt like, I mean, I'll put it this way.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: In the first half, I'm like, I don't know how we score a goal.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure that they're that they'll score a goal, but I'm definitely not sure that we will.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: Michaela, what what did you give me your frustration level on the the level of play in the first half?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: You you you're talking about passes and I I don't think they were great passes at all.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: There was not a high value.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: There is so I said something about touches, and I know that I was it uh it was not the best wording, but it's like we weren't able to actually get to the pass that you were attempting to pass.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can't give you an example.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: No, but like and then no, but you would no, I like what you're stay on there because it's the pass before the pass.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's the pl pass that opens up the space or uh un unlocks a player to get into the space and do the thing that we need to do.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: But so we also have like this bad habit of not being in sync when we start the game.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh yeah, we're just showing up to work.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, oh, I forget that, you know, I know that Rich is gonna be there whenever I do this, and Rich knows to be there.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: Or I think that ri I know that Rich is gonna be there.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's my example for that.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: But it's it's it's hard to watch, and especially with the passes, oh yeah, we're able to get them, but we're not actually stopping the ball.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: So then we're having to be really quick about moving it because that's the one time that Fort Lauderdale was actually paying attention and being slightly awake and pressuring.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: So you think so you think we're like our touch was off, like it wasn't it wasn't the first sharpness.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: Even though we're like we're how many games into the season, and we're we open this first half against Fort Lauderdale, against the worst in the team in the league.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: We're not sharp in our patterns of play in the first half of a match that we should be like just we we we should we should have no like hesitation.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: And yet we were at it all over the place.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's like we're warming up for the first 45 minutes.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I I think that I think that one thing that happens, I think so on a on a positive note, I feel like no, I know I listen, listen, by the way, by the way, Jesse, Jess, Jesse, Jesse earlier today were texting about something else, and he's like, he's like, always the optimist.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, yes, that is part of my nature, so bear with me on that.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: It kind of is my deal.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: We take it.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: But what I but I will say is like I do think that one of the things that the coaching staff does well most matches is when we come out in the second half, they've made adjustments that affect the patterns of play in a very positive way.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: We saw that again tonight, but to your point, Michaela, I think the the issue I have is for the why aren't we making any in-game adjustments to do that?
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is like it's like, well, let's just go for the full 45 and see what happens.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, no, maybe we should change something after the first, you know, 15-20 minutes when things aren't working the way we drew it up in the you know, in the planning beforehand.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: So 10 minutes in, Fort Lauderdale made a change.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: I only know this because I was like, wow, they haven't been pressuring for the first nine minutes.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then I looked at the time and I was like, wow, look at that.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: The 10th minute, Fort Lauderdale actually started pressuring on us.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they weren't doing that prior.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's definitely we're not making those slight adjustments during you know, the thing.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Or if we are, we don't see or we don't see the result of it.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not seeing the results of it.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: Not in that first half.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: That first half, like, we'll we'll get on to the you can do all the positivity you want, but like the first half was not what you wanted to see in the league against the worst team in the league.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, you don't want to see it against any team, but especially the worst team.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: And and at one point was someone behind me like kind of facetiously asked, like, how many shots do we have?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I knew.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: I knew exactly.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it was one shot.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: We had we had one shot on target.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it was not a good shot.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it was not that great, but it was a shot on target.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: It was a shot.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um but we kind of like cleared the level and it was not a great shot.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so the first half.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's done.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: For me.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: Has anyone have had anything else left on the first half?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: I was glad it was over.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'll I'll say that um it was it was definitely um a common theme across all over the place.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because we had a couple that was behind us, and they were like, Why are we not taking shots?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: What is like this was their uh I think it was maybe their first game, and they're like, this is what they're seeing, and they're like, wow, the people that we're used to seeing playing, like they're like they're amazing.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: We want to like hype them up, but they weren't playing at their full potential that first half.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Or constantly offside.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Or constantly offside.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: And like, and by the way, like very offside, good on Fort Lauderdale, very, very offside.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I gave them that, but it's also watch your sides.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's not it just and especially our wide player, Jasmine Amin.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: She's on the right, she's wide right, she plays wide right, and multiple times in the first half, caught offside.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just all not adding up to great.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: But to your point, and hopefully we come back on to it about a broad question about the season, is that you this was a showpiece for people who might have been curious about the match, who maybe also came to the Classico.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: It was very exciting, huge occasion.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then okay, I'll go check this out.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'll go check out Dallas Trinity out the Cotton Bowl um after Halloween at the in the league and you know, take a deal and drive in and do the parking and and see what it goes.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: And that first half was was not if if if I could do something to be like, okay, I want to catch these people and have them come back again and again and again.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: That first half was not not ideal, not ideal for me.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but then we go to the second half, and in the second half, adjustments were made, um and you know, the first 10 minutes, like we really like we we were you know creating chances, we were spending time in in the their final third, um, and putting them under a lot of pressure, which is what led to um that second yellow, which became a red, uh sending their player off.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um their head coach Paul like screwed up whatever he wrote on the piece of paper to give to the ref, and so it took another like I don't know, four or five minutes for them to get their changes in.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Is that what that was?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: That was what that was.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so that was a thing too.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: So like get that right.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it didn't matter what their changes were, um you know, we continued to press.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I thought I thought in the second half overall we played well.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I will say this, I know that they were down a per a player, but I have seen matches where a team and and and the better team has been up a player with even more time than we had and not produced a win.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: We've seen it with our own.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we've seen it with our own.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: We've literally watched it happen before.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: We've we've lost a game with the other team being down.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we we've we've had results like like a Tampa.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's happened against Tampa.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: But the but the issue with Tampa is Tampa is has and when we caught Tampa in that way, Tampa has a little bit of steel about them.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're not the last team in the league.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: I no, I agree, but I'm just saying it does happen.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: It does happen.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: But but they have a little bit of steel about them and a little bit of organization about them.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: To me, I you know, like credit credit to us to force the second yellow uh for that particular player.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um I mean they earned it.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't unearned by Fort Lauderdale, it wasn't unearned by us, it wasn't some fluke thing that we just got this thing.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: But we were still nil-nil prior to that second yellow.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it took another 13, 10, 13 minutes to get the first goal.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: My thing is with this club, is this is the bare minimum of what we should be doing.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Just generally.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: We got the last team in the the last place team in the league.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: They are in a terrible way, and we've got them a man down.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: The the very least we should do is come away with the three points here.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: And we can talk about the goals, but um, I I don't know.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Michaela, did you like the goals where at that point were you like just relieved, or you were like, no, this was a good goal, or anything from different players, anything and and I'll go to Rich too.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what was exciting to you throughout throughout this thing?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm gonna frame it.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm framing it in the way of this team was on the ropes and they're the worst team in the league.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh so uh being slightly negative, how would it have been different if they didn't go down a player?
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, would we have the same outcome?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or would we be caught with our pants down?
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm sorry.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Beckman got her pants, she got pants on the field.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, that's what I was laughing about over here because I was like, oh, we got caught with our pants down.
• 14:23
  unknown: Sorry.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's literally why I was laughing over here while Jesse was talking.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's it's been so bad lately.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um But with like the goals, I will say, um we were talking about just how the game was going, how that first half was, and we were just it'd be a slight bit of complaining, and then we were just talking, like uh just socializing because that's all you you got when there's nothing happening.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then stuff started happening, and it started happening so quickly.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, that's the team that I know.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's the team that I sub I support.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say that I only support them if they win.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: That seems so messed up.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not here for that.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I winning makes it a little bit easier.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I mean, for me, like, so I you know, number one, I I I really enjoyed the of course the goals.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: I do think that we would have won regardless of whether they, you know, went down a player or not.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Based on what I saw in the first 10 minutes of the second half, I don't think it would have been as comfortable or as easy.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I felt like we were on our way to that.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um the other thing I would say is that I when the sub was made at halftime um and Juliet Moore came in, I for Shepard, I was like, I don't know that I would have done that sub, but then she scores the goal.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um and she played really well.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Seven Castain.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: I in the first half I'm like, did she even touch the ball?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Was she even part of what was going on?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, and then she puts herself in the box to make that you know that goal happen.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then Eichenberger, like, fantastic goal, and and and you know, I and for her, I was really, really happy for her.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: She was so excited, came to the bench, and like first before she came to the bench, like she's going toward the bench to like like hug everybody on the bench because they're all cheering for her.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then she kind of looks back, like, should I be over here?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because like everybody else in the ref or at the center, ready to you know kick the ball, but like she's like, oh, and then she goes over and hugs everybody anyway.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, no, it was so it was her first goal.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Celebrate with your team.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: What is not to love about your first goal for the team?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Unbelievable.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I was so happy for her.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and so, yes, I was really excited about the goals.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: Before this game, I told Karen, I'm like, this is for us, this is a must-win game.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: We if we don't win this game, for me, season over.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, truly, like, truly, we're done.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: And and winning, so winning to happen.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: I had someone say that to me.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: But the but the kind of like thing, the frustrating thing with the season is that if we didn't win this game, it wasn't really over for us.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: We were still kind of we're still kind of caught in this limbo.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um but the goals, I like it was so like Seven Castain, it was like finally, like, we get a set piece and she's there, and we get a couple stabs at this goal.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's the keeper spills it, and it's not how you would draw it up, but it's like finally, like we get the one, we're finally won.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously, the at that point it's like no, we're not, we're not losing this.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, it's like I said, Julie had more grade header and like a lot of things.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: That was a great header.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's I wish that was like the first goal, because it was like that good of a of a quality header and uh and a finish.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um but at that point in the match, and I want to really get on to like what we are thinking generally about this season, is for me it was this is what we should be doing.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was excited in the moment, but I still kept thinking is this is the worst team in the league.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: They're a man they're a player down, and this is this is the literal least what that we could do to not only stay in the season, but um try to make it mean something.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like what are you we feeling about about this thing?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I I want to go first to Michaela about the season.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um because I get the sense that there's I get the sense not that it's negative, because I don't want to frame what your answer might be, is that there's a wide range of what we're feeling about this season.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: So Mikhaila, like so far, like what are you feeling?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: What like when the like when there's a when there's a match on the calendar, how are you feeling?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Are you excited to get in there?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: What are you thinking about like how this might end, all of this?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like what is this amounting to basically?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder if ever so bad.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because you bring up calendars.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I put in all of our matches ever so slightly wrong, starting with this match.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: I thought we were going into a match with Sporting Jacks.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's next weekend.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um I found that out in the middle of the game and right when we showed up and was like, oh, that's wrong Florida team.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um so that kind of changed a few things, but I will also, before I fully tell you how I feel, how I walk into games, how everything changes for me.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I was also really uh concerned about this game because I I s I scrolled the internet, okay, I'm on Instagram, and I came across Game Bridge had posted something with Carolina Ascent, and they were showing like probabilities of how Carolina would automatically clinch playoffs today.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: If we drew or we lost.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Sporting Jacks, really great team.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh man, I'm concerned.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I also don't want anybody clinching anything just yet until our game is over.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um so that's kind of like what kind of started everything for me is I came across that this morning.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Draw or loss.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, mm, do I believe in my team as much as I should?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in my team as much as I should.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still trying to be as delusional as possible and always being like, yeah, we're gonna win every single game.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go in strong.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: First half, second half, but I've also noticed that I come in to the drive to the game I'm not as happy as I once was.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: So we have a playlist, you know, we we're usually like singing and going and going through terrible traffic because you know, Dallas.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, I'm pissed.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I see what you mean.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why I'm pissed.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: I just know that I am upset and I am not fully excited for the game.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like uh it feels like a slight chore.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: So were you conf were you confident about this match prior to um like right like so?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Let's set aside that you might have thought it was Jacksonville, but it was Fort Lauderdale.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Would you have been confident about this?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Against Fort Lauderdale, not until I looked at the standings.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was like, I don't know what where they're sitting.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and then I looked at where they were sitting and I was like, We better win.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's not even a confidence in our team, it's just a you better win.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: So the answer to that sounds like no.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah no.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: What do you want from what do you want more from the club?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: And this team.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: So just from the club, like ownership and all of that.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Better marketing, um a little bit better community work.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: So like they're doing a lot of stuff and the name that we see first is always Athletico.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want alphabetical order.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want men before women.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Right now we have an active women's team.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: This is an active team in an active season.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: And we've literally come into a game this season and there was less than I think it was around 2,000 because I decided to look.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was around 2000.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you didn't know the cotton bowl can hold 90,000 people and they can they've filled it before with you know American football.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: But we open up half the side you know half of it.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: We filled it with over what was the Classico year one 25 and we hit records for the state of Texas.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like I want to see that and we still haven't figured it out.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: But granted you tell people oh there's a women's soccer team and they're like oh it's women's that's a whole different ballgame that's not something we'll talk about.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like I have I have a few coworkers at my job and they're like oh yeah I heard about Athletico and I heard about Chichorito and I'm like cool so you've marketed him so hard that now I'm hearing about it at work and I'm like I also have all this Trinity stuff around and it's like I've never heard you once talk about the team that's actually going to be we're not setting ourselves apart.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: So for me I come so not so much as the marketing and the and um I to me I don't think I don't think we're setting ourselves enough about like actual results.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Richard with actual what?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Results like the actual performances and the actual results to make to demand um attention and and this kind of thing.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because I you know Dallas is just like a lot of just generally like the like the attention can be fickle and but Dallas is like if you're not winning you're you're you know you're not much.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: Richard What do you think?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like where are you in this season?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: So first between this season and like where we're going and all this so first of all I agree Dallas is a winner's town and and that does affect things.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I it it is I so going into this season I was worried about a number of things.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Number one change of ownership uh which which I was fine with um because I do think there are a lot of positive things that the new owners are doing and and it will do.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think the biggest issue is this season.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Number one the league changing it to this like truncated season so that they can switch the schedule I was worried about that.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Number two, when the announcement of the change of ownership happened we had like we had like what four players left like I mean like so then it's like we're bringing in all new people we're scrambling to actually just put a team together.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's like well how is this going to work and how's this going to meld and how's this going to fit?
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: And you're going up against teams that have a that had a solid team the year before and they were great.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know Carolina underperformed last year but they got a great team Lexington won the league.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like them but they have a great team you know you have Sporting Jacks new team but they have a great team so you like you like you have all of this stuff and so then you're so you're trying to compete against teams that are set up and you are piecemealing what you can and while I I really love our players like Brewer coming back from international duty 15 year old amazing player like we have some great talent on this team but I was worried with a big change at you know big change at coach a complete overhaul of the roster and the league evolving and and then this truncated season what would this be like what I would say is I think I agree with you I'm frustrated with some of the results and I think that we I would love for us to be doing better.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: That said I am still very excited when I come to matches and come to the away party and the reason for that is not necessarily the result or the team.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like the reason is is because of all the people I get to hang out with.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna say this because I think it's important to mention I turn 57 in a month which is scary to me.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: I know but being but like but like being part of this fan base like I've met so many amazing fun people that I now consider friends and I've never been a part of anything else where that's happened.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Where I've been around so many cool people then that and that's what I would say to to people that are like well should I go or should I not like well do you want to hang out with cool people?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well if you do then you should because you'll meet tons of great people and lastly I'll just say this as we were leaving Karen and I are walking to the car there's a dad and he's got like maybe an eight year old the kid with him and he and and he's like he's like what do you think of the game and the kid's like oh you know Trinity won it was really fun he's like well you know they're playing next weekend you know do you want to come back?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: And the kid's like yeah that would be great and so I do think that number one having the youth sports there post like having a win post classico at home hugely important for the club and hopefully it brings some new people back.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's why like yeah it's it to me like a theme for me this fall in a lot of ways is mixed bag.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's it's a kind of a cop out.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like you know I can't make up my mind but there's just there's no it is like like there's so many positives but I think there's so many missed opportunities.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah prior to kickoff um someone told me about how like you know um if you read the the season ticket member email it's it's if you don't renew if you're the first 100 people to renew you can get free parking.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and I thought like I thought like like like how can like if we're trying to build something and really get something going like can we not be like can we get out of our own way.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's an incentive to be a season ticket holder it is an incentive it's a big perk.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: It is an incentive but I hope I would think they have more than that and then sometimes people maybe are not at a place where they can renew at this at this at this point.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: No what I'm saying is what I'm saying is that the the choice not to renew because they missed out on something.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying is that is that that perk is a big perk that gets people to become season ticket holders versus just buying games ad hoc.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so I do think that's a huge issue.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Right but if I if for whatever reason I missed that email because I missed that email I'm I'm I'm getting stuck here in like this specific example but I'm really like broadly speaking like the club needs to get out of its own way whether it's the office whether it's the the how we play on the field we ever it needs to be all aligned for s for success and what I'm getting is we're there's so many missteps along the way.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of ideas about how we play on the pitch and it's whether or not it's feeding back on whether we're getting people to come back and to enjoy this thing.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because if I miss this thing and the silly thing about an email about season ticket members and and parking and I miss it like for me since day one being a season ticket member I might become a I'm an ad hoc and I'll I'll pay for each one.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just a silly thing.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: I again I'm getting stuck in like the micro here but macro here we need to get out of our own way generally whether it's the whether it's how we're doing on the business side Michaela you mentioned the marketing and things like this and how we're playing on the field.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: We need to get results and make the argument no reason for people not to show up is to get results get points on the board get a get get a home playoff match and then also on the business side start getting people back in the seats start getting people into seats getting excited to get back in and make no reason for for folks to balk at the idea of paying for a ticket so I know I've been a negative Nancy but I also would like to be devil's advocate you should is and Mikhail you give us a last word on this we have to do this they're new is it their first time running a team is it their first time coaching like is this this is the first time uh Wynn is running he's coaching for the first time he is head coach head manager whatever I think they gave him like 14 titles and then that's how it felt uh and then Athletic code like they're actually having a team like it's also a really quick season I don't want to give that as the full cop out but it's a it's the best season to to screw up honestly and they're doing they're doing okay like even though I have all my grievances and I feel the way that I do maybe it's other stuff but it just happens to be whenever I go to games uh Rich is right I love the community that I've grown with in the past uh it's almost three years now I I look forward to going to watch parties I do look forward to going to games sometimes I just don't want to during the day that's that's personal reasons and then like I also get to see you guys outside of games I I'm going to Scardello's birthday next week we have the plug in here thanks for the plug 18th anniversary party next Fridays 5 30 to 10 Scardello's turning 18 we're gonna just go celebrate that you know I get I have friends that you know I'm going to their birthdays they have a Friendsgiving you know they have all these different little things and now I have a group of friends that I can go and hang out with them and not just sit and watch TV on a weekend.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like I get to go to a game just it's it's amazing just thinking about these are things that I can do in my newfound you know city because I'm not a Dallas whatever you call yourselves Dallasites or whatever.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: I guess Dallasite I don't know I guess sounds not a Dallasite I don't know I don't know Jesse's a curmudgeon he's not a Dallasite you are you live here sorry pals well I live here but I don't what are you wearing on your head well I love this club and to your point is it's about coming together and I think we've done it.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: We've done it tonight we'll continue to do it.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay before we end this thing we do need to do something very important because we did actually win tonight and so we need to pick a player of the match I'm sorry we it just needs to happen so Michaela player of the match burger burger I was so happy to see her get on the field we didn't get a full cheeseburger which is a cheese assist no what came up in the in a supporter section was have it your way I can burger you rule so I didn't hear that but we were trying to get something of a but I was definitely super excited uh I was screaming I got a burger I got a burger and uh they were like that's not your order and it's fine but they were like oh it's not a cheeseburger I'm like yeah but we have a burger still because we had a burger goal and that's all that matters so I had a burger yeah 100% Icon burger just amazing I mean just like the celebration the hesitation of going to the bench and the look back towards the the center of the pitch and then running to the bench anyway best moment of the night by far like I love like I like it's like those little moments where because because every player on that pitch they all want to win they all really care you can see it in what they do I mean and shout out to there's there were a number of players tonight I thought that had great games Cam like I once again did a great job our captain amazing tonight but Eichenberger for me.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I'm not gonna I'm not gonna break ranks here.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'll go with Eichenberger too I loved Eichenberger because she provides not only well first of all she's one of our biggest players I love her energy you know like just all over the pitch.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever she's doing whether she's closing down whether she's winning ahead or whether she's trying to help us get out whether she's running a channel she's hundred percent committed whether it comes off you know it doesn't matter but it's it's so great to see players committed 100% to whatever it is at that moment.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: I love like the kind of there's a little bit of a chaos that she brings um in a way that the Castain doesn't like she kind of brings this chaos in in a little bit with her touch and what she'll do in the box that I love and for her to get her goal and to be such a young player I love that too.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: So a player of the match for me Eichenberger definitely well uh Allie's got uh the drinking horn on her head like a a rhino or a unicorn um I want to thank Michaela for being part of this tonight.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh thank you Jesse and uh you know what next week it is actually sporting jacks I know we start calendar but it is at home at the iconic wild bowl we get something wild like they do that they did like four four against Brooklyn so we get something wild a wild match to come anyway uh I'm Rich for Michaela and Jesse this is Pegasus post match we'll see you next time