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Dan Lanning Interview, CFB News, Duke + Amazon Prime, NCAA Eligibility rules · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

0:00
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: Morgan Ducks head coach Dan Lanning is in the building.
0:05
Speaker 2: I gotta ask the man about everything he's built the
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Ducks and about some of them playoff losses.
0:13
Speaker 1: Amazon has signed a.
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Speaker 2: Deal with Duke basketball and why it impacts college football
0:21
Speaker 2: so much. This is going to change your viewing habits
0:25
Speaker 2: the NCAA. They're five for five eligibility play. A lot
0:30
Speaker 2: of people have been praising it. Oh, it sounds great,
0:32
Speaker 2: but I got the side effects for it. We got
0:34
Speaker 2: to give an update on Brendan Soresby.
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Speaker 1: He's being sued for.
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Speaker 2: More money than he even made at Cincinnati last year,
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Speaker 2: and how much money he is losing in this situation
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Speaker 2: and will he play again? Ghost transfers. If you don't
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Speaker 2: know what these are, you have to know that coaches
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Speaker 2: are going to have decisions to make with their forty
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Speaker 2: million dollars.
1:00
Speaker 1: That and so much more.
1:02
Speaker 2: Make sure that you guys like share, subscribe, get notifications,
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1:09
Speaker 1: Let's get to.
1:19
Speaker 2: We're gonna start out today with the best thing that
1:22
Speaker 2: I saw today. And this one came from the man
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Speaker 2: who is being interviewed on the show today head coach
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Speaker 2: of the Oregon Ducks, mister Dan lann When I saw
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Speaker 2: that Dan Lanning was hopping on cameo, my first thing was, wait, hold,
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Speaker 2: why is he hopping on cameo? And he's one of
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Speaker 2: the highest paid coaches in college football. He can't be
1:44
Speaker 2: trying to make a couple of extra bucks, right, correct,
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Speaker 2: He is joined cameo and he's going to donate one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent of the profits from the video to support
1:55
Speaker 2: the Sam Day Foundation to support childhood cancer research.
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Speaker 3: Rusty, thanks for helping me raise some money for a
2:01
Speaker 3: great cause. Appreciate you, man, And you're right, Oregon's been
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Speaker 3: the benchmark. We got to keep pushing, gotta keep going.
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Speaker 1: That's what the man is doing.
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Speaker 2: And the best part about it is it is given
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Speaker 2: Washington fans and other Oregon rivals and opportunity to troll.
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Speaker 2: They are putting in bids to get things from Dan Lanning,
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Speaker 2: and Dan's like, hold up, bro, I know what you're doing.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you something else back. So it's actually
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Speaker 2: a very cool opportunity for fans.
2:28
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news.
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Speaker 2: There's a big college basketball story that's actually going to
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Speaker 2: impact college football because it was already tried. But apparently
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Speaker 2: Duke Basketball is getting away with something that Notre Dame
2:42
Speaker 2: and USC were unable to pull off. Notre Dame and
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Speaker 2: USC they ended up getting canceled for twenty twenty six
2:49
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty seven. One of the things that they
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Speaker 2: were negotiating was having a deal for their METEA rights
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Speaker 2: outside of the Big Ten for this one particular game,
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Speaker 2: whether it was going to be at Prime or Netflix
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Speaker 2: or any other streaming service. They wanted to get paid
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Speaker 2: big money just.
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Speaker 1: For that game.
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Speaker 2: The Big Ten and their contracts said absolutely not. But
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Speaker 2: in basketball, this is going down, and it is Duke
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Speaker 2: Basketball lining up three games in this next season that
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Speaker 2: are going to be outside of the ACCS deal, and
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Speaker 2: it is going to be on Amazon Prime. A Thanksgiving
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Speaker 2: Black Friday game Duke faces Yukon, which is going to
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Speaker 2: be one of the biggest college basketball games of the year.
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Speaker 2: On December twenty third. They're going to be in New
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Speaker 2: York City at Madison Square Garden, where Duke is going
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Speaker 2: to play the reigning national champions, the Michigan Wolverines, another
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Speaker 2: Marquee game, and then the third game is going to
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Speaker 2: be February twentieth when Duke is going to be playing
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Speaker 2: Gonzaga at Detroit's Little Caesars Arena. Why this matters to
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Speaker 2: college football? Is this You've already had Notre Dame in
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Speaker 2: usc try this. Well, there's a direct to consumer aspect
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Speaker 2: that the next round of media riites is going to
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Speaker 2: definitely try to explore. When everybody talks about the NFL
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Speaker 2: and how you have to have Sunday Ticket, ESPN, Prime,
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Speaker 2: Netflix to watch every single game, you are potentially headed
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Speaker 2: to that for your favorite college football team as well.
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Speaker 2: So whether you like it, whether you don't like it,
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Speaker 2: that's just the reality of what's coming down the pipe
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Speaker 2: in college football. Pop in the comments, tell me, are
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Speaker 2: you in favor of this?
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Speaker 1: Do you hate it?
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Speaker 2: Are you willing to pay that price? Or does that
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Speaker 2: turn you off a little bit? Legitimate question. I want
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Speaker 2: to give an update on Brendan Sowersby because Texas Tech
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Speaker 2: quarterback who's checked themselves in for gambling. But news just
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Speaker 2: continues to trickle out about the situation. If you don't
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Speaker 2: know what happened Brendan Sowersby while he was at Indiana,
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Speaker 2: because he was at Indiana before he went to Cincinnati,
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Speaker 2: he bet on an Indiana football game. That is confirmed
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Speaker 2: information at this point in time. But then between then
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Speaker 2: and at least December twenty twenty five, we're talking at
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Speaker 2: least ten thousand bets, whether it's on college football, on baseball, basketball,
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Speaker 2: anything else. They said at one point in time, he
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Speaker 2: was averaging twenty bets a day. So he has checked
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Speaker 2: himself into rehab after an NCAA investigation started last year
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Speaker 2: when he was at Cincinnati. Now here's where it gets
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Speaker 2: very interesting. He was making at Cincinnati about eight hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in
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Speaker 2: nil money last year. So he leaves Cincinnati. Cincinnati then
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Speaker 2: says the contract is not up. We are going to
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Speaker 2: sue you for breach of contract for a million dollars.
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Speaker 2: So he hasn't even made a million dollars. Cincinnati is
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Speaker 2: suing him for a millionllion dollars. He's contending, you had
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Speaker 2: no damages. I hopped into portal. You could have found
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Speaker 2: another quarterback. You had ample time to do so, and
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Speaker 2: I didn't pretend like I was coming back. I didn't
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Speaker 2: take any more money than I was supposed to. So
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Speaker 2: he's fighting that lawsuit. And then you have it come out,
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Speaker 2: this whole gambling thing, after he has already transferred to
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, gone through springball, signed over a five million
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Speaker 2: dollar deal for this year, which now he's not going
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Speaker 2: to get. It will take a miracle from heaven that
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Speaker 2: he will be able to play college football this season.
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Speaker 2: So he's already being sued for a million dollars five
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Speaker 2: million dollar deal which has gone poof vanished, could put
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Speaker 2: and he was projected to be a twenty twenty seven
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Speaker 2: first round pick in the NFL, which would have netted
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Speaker 2: him somewhere in between depending on where he was picked,
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Speaker 2: in between eighteen to twenty million dollars guaranteed and fifty
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Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed. And this gambling scandal, even if he
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Speaker 2: goes to treatment and is able to go in the
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Speaker 2: draft next year, this is going to one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: impact when and if he's drafted, because the NFL does
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Speaker 2: not play about gambling. They don't even play about gambling
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Speaker 2: on other sports. And the biggest question that people have
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Speaker 2: had about this is when did Cincinnati know this? Because
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Speaker 2: if they let him play last season knowing all of this,
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Speaker 2: they should have some consequences and repercussions too.
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Speaker 4: I find it.
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Speaker 2: Very hard to believe that he's doing all of this
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Speaker 2: gambling because I've been around serious gamblers. They talk about
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Speaker 2: gambling all the time. So there's no way that he's
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Speaker 2: in his friend group, his social circle around with people
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Speaker 2: in general, and nobody knows that this dude has a
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Speaker 2: gambling issue.
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Speaker 1: Nobody knows.
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Speaker 2: If people know, why would you not send him to
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Speaker 2: the NFL this year for the draft?
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Speaker 1: Why not?
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Speaker 2: But then too, the NFL would have absolutely found out
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Speaker 2: about it as well. So this was a gotcha, gotcha
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Speaker 2: that was going to come out anyway, because the gambling
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Speaker 2: companies are searching players, names, everything, using AI to try
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Speaker 2: to find players, people who work in for teams, anybody
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Speaker 2: gambling because it cuts at the integrity of the game.
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Speaker 1: So this is crucial.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna see how this all plays out and
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Speaker 2: what Texas Tech k new. Is Texas Tech then going
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Speaker 2: to sue Cincinnati. We're gonna keep up with this news
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Speaker 2: all right. In this Brendan Soresby situation brings me to
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Speaker 2: my last point of ghost transfers. If you are Texas Tech,
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Speaker 2: and you guys can answer this down in the comments.
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Speaker 4: If you are Texas.
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Speaker 2: Tech, and you just lost your quarterback Brendan Sores before
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Speaker 2: the year. You're waiting potentially Will Hammond to be healthy
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Speaker 2: after the third game of the season if he has
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Speaker 2: no setbacks. Are you willing to have your head coach
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Speaker 2: Joey McGuire sit out half the season?
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Speaker 4: The way you.
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Speaker 2: Can try to get a like a Dylan Ryola to
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Speaker 2: transfer and all the legal hurdles that that then is
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Speaker 2: going to create with the NCAA, is that then working
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Speaker 2: and losing twenty percent of your nil budget for taking
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Speaker 2: a ghost transfer because the transfer window is closed. There's
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Speaker 2: only one window now, and if you take a transfer
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Speaker 2: from there, if a player then unenrolls because you can't
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Speaker 2: go into Portland do it so a player can unenroll
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Speaker 2: and then enroll at another university because that had been
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Speaker 2: done prior. Those are called ghost transfers, and there are
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Speaker 2: penalties to a coach taking a ghost transfer at this
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Speaker 2: point in time. So the question is is that worth
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Speaker 2: it twenty percent of your nil budget twenty and a
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Speaker 2: half million, which they have a forty million dollar roster,
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Speaker 2: So how can you find them that anyway? They'll just
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Speaker 2: find the money somewhere else and redirect it. This is
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Speaker 2: why salary caps are important, because there's no penalty if
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Speaker 2: they can just redirect money other places. I'm just saying, so,
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Speaker 2: these are real questions that we need to have answered.
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Speaker 2: Next thing up the NCAA's proposal, and it came off
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Speaker 2: the heels of the executive order from Donald Trump about
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Speaker 2: the five years to play five years in college sports.
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Speaker 2: We've had a lot of people champion this, everybody from
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban's Urban Meyer, they have said that this is necessary.
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Speaker 1: We don't need all.
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Speaker 2: These old people playing college football twenty five twenty six
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Speaker 2: year olds. People haven't fully thought about the negatives and
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Speaker 2: the repercussions to the five for five because, on one hand,
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Speaker 2: when does the clock start? Do juco year start? What
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Speaker 2: happens to the players who just finished? Because if you
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Speaker 2: institute a policy of five for five where you have
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Speaker 2: five years to play five years instead of five years
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Speaker 2: to play four with the red shirt year, how is
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Speaker 2: this going to impact college football?
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Speaker 1: One of them is lawsuits.
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Speaker 2: Lawsuits are one hundred percent coming and they are one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent going to happen, and the biggest bucket and
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Speaker 2: pool of people who will be suing and the first
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Speaker 2: people are the college students who just finished playing sports.
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Speaker 1: I have a prime example of this.
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Speaker 2: I know a young lady who was an All American
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Speaker 2: volleyball player at an FCS school last last year. Her
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Speaker 2: eligibility is up, so she's weighing playing overseas and making
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Speaker 2: some money there, or as an All American volleyball player
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Speaker 2: and an outside hitter, she could hop in the transfer
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Speaker 2: portal and go make hundreds of thousands of dollars at
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Speaker 2: other places, which is more than she would make playing overseas,
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Speaker 2: and she can continue to go to school and get
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Speaker 2: her masters. You're gonna have the diego pobbyists, the guys
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Speaker 2: who are very good players but are not necessarily high
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Speaker 2: draft picks in the NFL. Guys that could go to
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Speaker 2: the NFL and get a signing bonus of half a
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Speaker 2: million dollars, but could get a million dollars to play
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Speaker 2: another season of college football. So the lawsuits from that
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Speaker 2: are going to be endless. So it doesn't matter whether
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Speaker 2: you say we're gonna institute it in twenty twenty eight
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Then the twenty twenty sevens are going to
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Speaker 2: sue you for that year of eligibility. The only resolution
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Speaker 2: which the courts are going to side against you, which
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Speaker 2: they've cited against the against the NCAA in almost every
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Speaker 2: single eligibility situation, you're gonna end up with another COVID year,
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Speaker 2: another additional year which then gave you old players to
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Speaker 2: begin with, and now you're going to be in the
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Speaker 2: exact same situation that you were trying to avoid. Then
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Speaker 2: there's the nil system. Right now, we are seeing coaches
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Speaker 2: value experience over potential, and that has caused high school
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Speaker 2: players to get squeezed out. Coaches now they're looking at
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Speaker 2: players who are hopping in the portal younger players, and
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Speaker 2: they're saying, if you don't have any film, we can't
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Speaker 2: take you. So then you have those players go. If
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Speaker 2: they are at Power for Schools or Group of six schools,
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Speaker 2: then transferred down then they can play to either FCS,
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Speaker 2: to jucos, anything else. So now you're actually increasing the
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Speaker 2: opportunity for transfers, which you're trying to block. So now
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Speaker 2: the five or five along with the transfer rule, that
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Speaker 2: creates a whole another litany of problems. Imagine a world
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Speaker 2: where because of this five for five rule, five years
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Speaker 2: to play five no red shirts along with the high
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Speaker 2: school players getting squeezed out. Now you're going to create
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Speaker 2: a system where you could actually have state sponsored farm systems.
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Speaker 2: You could have like the State of Indiana. Say we
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Speaker 2: are going to take a smaller program like Indiana State,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to pair them with Notre Dame and
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Speaker 2: Indiana and any other big name schools and have them
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Speaker 2: in a situation where peep this where you can go
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Speaker 2: to Indiana State out of high school, get developed with
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Indiana coaches like use that as a
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Speaker 2: farm system, and then you have automatic transfer ability to
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Speaker 2: Indiana and Notre Dame and use that as their farm system,
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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame in Indiana then fund Indiana.
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Speaker 1: States nim situation. Imagine that.
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Speaker 2: So now Indiana State players can go to any school,
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Speaker 2: a big name school in Indiana and keep their NIL deal.
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Speaker 2: So now the state legislators they're gonna be happy to
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Speaker 2: do stuff like that because whether they are Indiana, Notre Dame,
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Speaker 2: or any other school, they're gonna want those schools to
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Speaker 2: be successful.
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Speaker 1: Some of them went one place, some of them went
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Speaker 1: the other place.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna one hundred percent sign up for that, and
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Speaker 2: then you're gonna have farm systems.
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Speaker 1: Within the state. And it makes so much.
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Speaker 2: Sense because it allows coaches to still be able to
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Speaker 2: monitor players, monitor school monitor all of this stuff, and
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Speaker 2: then sign the premium athletes but then be able to
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Speaker 2: get them on the field and developed. So that's the thing.
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Speaker 2: And with that, you already have regional tuition agreements with
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Speaker 2: schools like in the cal State system or in North
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Speaker 2: Carolina you can go to South Carolina schools at a
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Speaker 2: discount and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: These things already happen.
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Speaker 2: So these are some of the unintended and possible outcomes
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Speaker 2: of the five for five and the nil situation which
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Speaker 2: is one hundred percent to be noted.
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Speaker 1: And that was the news for today.
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16:19
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Speaker 3: Watch as a fan? Yes, yeah, not a lot.
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Speaker 2: We are now here in the Oregon team room head
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Speaker 2: coach mister Dan Lanning, Man, we know very well.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on the show again, Thanks for let
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Speaker 4: me join you.
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Speaker 2: Man one in the year five, So what are you
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Speaker 2: most proud of in your first four and a half
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Speaker 2: years at the University of Oregon?
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Speaker 3: The people I get to do it with. Right, Well,
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Speaker 3: if we've done anything right, we have outstanding people in
17:01
Speaker 3: this organization. And I get to pinch myself every day
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Speaker 3: that I get to do it. I don't I don't
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Speaker 3: feel like a vetch yet. I'm still learning a ton,
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Speaker 3: still growing a bunch. But I know there's a lot
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Speaker 3: more gray hairs now than there were when I first started.
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Speaker 3: But enjoy it, man, and more than anything, the people
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Speaker 3: that I get to do it with and the players
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Speaker 3: in this program.
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Speaker 2: Now you've had three head coaches under your tree, Kitty
17:20
Speaker 2: dilly Ham, you go Tash Lou Boy will Stein as
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Speaker 2: a coach where you're able to I guess mentor and
17:27
Speaker 2: have your coaches move on.
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Speaker 4: Is that a sense of pride there?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely? You know. I always say my number one goal
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Speaker 3: is to help people chase their dreams and goals, and
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Speaker 3: each one of those guys is unique. But then he
17:37
Speaker 3: went to school at Arizona State. Now he's the head
17:40
Speaker 3: coach there. Tosh played at Cal Now he's the head
17:42
Speaker 3: coach there. Will's dad, you know, was a player at
17:44
Speaker 3: Kentucky and now he's the head coach there. Those were
17:46
Speaker 3: all destination spots for those guys and for them to
17:50
Speaker 3: be able to accomplish so much while they're here and
17:51
Speaker 3: then be able to turn that into opportunities for them.
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Speaker 3: It's the same thing that I want for our players.
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Speaker 3: Sitting with guys, seen them get drafted last night and
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Speaker 3: throughout the weekend. You know, that's the same goals that
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Speaker 3: I have, is that those guys get to chase their
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Speaker 3: dreams and reach those opportunities.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're getting a chance to sit with Kenyon's Sadika,
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Speaker 2: a guy that you recruited. How special of a feeling
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Speaker 2: is that Because you got it with Josh Connery, now
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Speaker 2: you get it with him next year.
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Speaker 4: Who knows how medium there will be.
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun, man, seeing those guys chase
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Speaker 3: and it's hard not to sit back, you know, with
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Speaker 3: Josh and with Kenyon both and think about the beginning. Right.
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Speaker 3: I was talking to Kenyon's mom, Heather, about sitting in
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Speaker 3: their house and tell him, hey, this guy needs to
18:28
Speaker 3: come be a duck and going through that recruiting experience
18:31
Speaker 3: and then watching him show up on campus. You know,
18:33
Speaker 3: it's a lot smaller guy than what he is now,
18:35
Speaker 3: and you know, just seeing the join in his face
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Speaker 3: and his family's face when he gets called. The same
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Speaker 3: thing with Josh.
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Speaker 2: When do you know as a coach that you got
18:43
Speaker 2: a first round pick on your hands because you saw
18:46
Speaker 2: that Georgia many first round picks. You've seen it here,
18:50
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of practice that goes on in between.
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Speaker 2: Do you know it on the tape in high school?
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Speaker 2: Do you know when they show up?
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Speaker 3: When do you know you know somebody might have the
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Speaker 3: ability in high school? Well, I don't know that you
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Speaker 3: know it until a guy gets to campus. I think
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Speaker 3: it's a there's a rare combination that goes into being
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Speaker 3: a first round pick. First, it takes measurables, right, there's
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Speaker 3: some boxes that have to be checked, you know, for
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Speaker 3: certain teams, Guys have to run a certain time, they
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Speaker 3: have to have a certain size. So when you recruit
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Speaker 3: guys that have those measurables, you know, I think it
19:16
Speaker 3: starts there.
19:17
Speaker 2: Uh.
19:17
Speaker 3: And then when you see guys with measurables that have
19:20
Speaker 3: unbelievable work ethic, which that's Kenyon, right, that's Josh, that's
19:23
Speaker 3: Dylan Thineman right. And now you're checking multiple boxes and
19:26
Speaker 3: what kind of teammate they are, what they're able to
19:28
Speaker 3: accomplish on the field, you know that that becomes a separators.
19:32
Speaker 3: I think pretty early we knew, you know that Kenyon
19:34
Speaker 3: was a special player that we knew, you know, Joshua's
19:36
Speaker 3: special player, Dylan, you know, Derek Carmon. Some of those
19:39
Speaker 3: guys we've had in these last few drafts were special.
19:41
Speaker 2: So will you get a chance to talk to NFL scouts?
19:43
Speaker 2: Who talks to you about the players that are potentially
19:47
Speaker 2: going in the first round?
19:48
Speaker 4: And what do they ask you?
19:48
Speaker 3: By the time you get to that point, you know,
19:51
Speaker 3: coaches want to have a feel for the player. When
19:53
Speaker 3: you're talking to a coach, you know, what's this guy like, Well,
19:55
Speaker 3: how can I coach him best? You know, skoyting departments
19:57
Speaker 3: wants to make sure, like okay, weaknesses that they can
20:00
Speaker 3: verify strengths. But almost always in the draft process they're
20:03
Speaker 3: looking for butts, they're not looking for ants. And luckily
20:05
Speaker 3: here at Orgon we've had a lot of ann players.
20:07
Speaker 3: You know, Andy's the first one in the building. Andy
20:09
Speaker 3: watch his extra film. Andy's unbelievable in the weight room.
20:13
Speaker 3: But they're trying to answer all the questions right as
20:15
Speaker 3: they get closer to that draft. We've been fortunate to
20:17
Speaker 3: be able to answer a lot of those questions, you know,
20:19
Speaker 3: through film and through guys work.
20:21
Speaker 2: I think here, so to go back to coaching for
20:23
Speaker 2: a minute, it feels like that there's a shifting coaching.
20:26
Speaker 2: So when a couple of years ago your name was
20:29
Speaker 2: floated around for the Alabama job and other jobs, and
20:32
Speaker 2: you're like, the grass is damn Green and Eugene. But
20:35
Speaker 2: now we've seen Clark Lee stay at Vanderbilt his alma mater,
20:39
Speaker 2: Brent Key at Georgia Tech, Jeff Brahm over at Louisville.
20:43
Speaker 2: Seemed like guys were years ago like chasing jobs a
20:46
Speaker 2: little bit more, trying to level up.
20:48
Speaker 4: What do you think has caused that change?
20:50
Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of people are realizing the
20:52
Speaker 3: same thing. You know, the problems that you know are
20:54
Speaker 3: not not usually as bad as some of the problems
20:57
Speaker 3: you don't know, and you work so hard to build
20:59
Speaker 3: something really special. I think all of us that get
21:02
Speaker 3: to sit in this seat realize how lucky we are
21:04
Speaker 3: to do what we do. And then you can decide
21:07
Speaker 3: what's most important to you. You know, And I can't
21:09
Speaker 3: speak for any of those guys, but I know what's
21:11
Speaker 3: most important to me and organ checks every box for
21:14
Speaker 3: the things that are important.
21:15
Speaker 2: What were your conversations with Dante likes around and going
21:18
Speaker 2: to the draft, and what part in his decision making
21:21
Speaker 2: did you play?
21:22
Speaker 3: You know, I love Dante like family, right, and I
21:24
Speaker 3: wanted him to make the best decision for him. And
21:25
Speaker 3: that's what I just challenged him to do, is hey,
21:27
Speaker 3: continue to assess what's the best situation for you and
21:31
Speaker 3: whatever lane you pick, put your head down and go
21:33
Speaker 3: attack it. Right. I think we all know Dante's name
21:35
Speaker 3: would have been called last night if he decided to leave.
21:37
Speaker 3: And I think he felt like there's some unfinished business here.
21:40
Speaker 3: There's some opportunities for him to improve and to make sure,
21:43
Speaker 3: you know, you don't get a lot of chances, to
21:45
Speaker 3: make sure you're ready for that next step when you
21:46
Speaker 3: get there. And here's the guy that spent a lot
21:48
Speaker 3: of time going through that process saying, hey, I can
21:51
Speaker 3: maximize this, I can I can turn myself into the
21:53
Speaker 3: best version of myself. And we're seeing a lot of
21:55
Speaker 3: that this spring and leading into the off season for us.
21:58
Speaker 4: So how do you do that? Because it seems like
22:01
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of.
22:02
Speaker 2: Effort in personal growth here leadership come in the meeting rooms,
22:06
Speaker 2: whether it's the team meeting rooms, individual meeting rooms, it
22:09
Speaker 2: feels like the players are more engaged in the meetings,
22:12
Speaker 2: like they're a part of the meetings. Why do you
22:14
Speaker 2: do it that way? And I guess what inspired that?
22:16
Speaker 3: Well, best organizations have conversational turn taking. Right, there's engagement
22:21
Speaker 3: right within the team. And you know, my voice over
22:25
Speaker 3: time can become white noise. It's important whenever our players
22:29
Speaker 3: are here that it becomes their team, that this is
22:31
Speaker 3: their process and that they have a strong belief in it.
22:33
Speaker 3: And we're really lucky to have some guys at about
22:36
Speaker 3: in you know, to what we're trying to develop, and
22:38
Speaker 3: we know that the best version of this organization is
22:41
Speaker 3: going to have their input. They're going to be in
22:43
Speaker 3: there in the kitchen cooking as well. Right, it's not
22:45
Speaker 3: just the coaches. We're going to play zero snaps. It
22:47
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what we know. It's about what our
22:49
Speaker 3: players know and what they can execute.
22:51
Speaker 2: Last season, it didn't end the way that you wanted
22:53
Speaker 2: it to. So what happens after the game and then
22:56
Speaker 2: what do you say? What goes on with the staff?
22:59
Speaker 2: To me, I don't care whether you lose. Whether you
23:01
Speaker 2: lose by one or one hundred, you still lost. That
23:04
Speaker 2: means that there's work to do.
23:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, in football, you grow from both wins and losses, right,
23:09
Speaker 3: and obviously the last one stings, But that's what it's about.
23:12
Speaker 3: It's about taking the next step and growing. And we
23:14
Speaker 3: certainly had a young team. You know, last year we
23:16
Speaker 3: had a lot of young guys that they were able
23:18
Speaker 3: to contribute. But you don't look for excuses. You look
23:21
Speaker 3: for opportunities for growth. And what I do know is
23:23
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a stronger team in a lot of
23:25
Speaker 3: ways next year because the experience that those guys were
23:28
Speaker 3: able to get and they all took it and said, okay,
23:31
Speaker 3: let's charge forward and let's figure out what's next. So
23:33
Speaker 3: I think we have the smartest team that we've had
23:35
Speaker 3: since I've been here as far as guys understanding assignments
23:38
Speaker 3: what they have to accomplish. And you know, sometimes it's
23:41
Speaker 3: not your nine, especially when you're playing a good team.
23:42
Speaker 3: But no excuses, there are just an opportunity to get
23:45
Speaker 3: back to work and attack.
23:46
Speaker 2: In the off season, there's people trying to win the
23:49
Speaker 2: off season social media.
23:50
Speaker 4: Do you think that that's good for rivalries.
23:52
Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about block out the noise, but
23:56
Speaker 2: it's impossible when you turn on your phone or people
23:58
Speaker 2: texted to you and stuff like that.
24:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great for rivalries. You know the
24:03
Speaker 3: fact that we're not playing football right now and people
24:05
Speaker 3: are talking about football, that tells you how special the
24:07
Speaker 3: sport is. So, you know, I'm always appreciative to fans
24:12
Speaker 3: making that experience so special, whether it's our fans or
24:14
Speaker 3: other teams fans making that experience special, and it just
24:18
Speaker 3: means the games mean that much more when you get
24:19
Speaker 3: to them in the fall. But obviously that's the part
24:21
Speaker 3: that really matters, is how you perform in the fall.
24:23
Speaker 3: We pay attention to things, but again we try to
24:25
Speaker 3: focus as much as we can on what what's the
24:27
Speaker 3: best version of us right, and very little of those things,
24:30
Speaker 3: you know, the outside noise have anything to do with
24:32
Speaker 3: our success.
24:33
Speaker 2: How much college football do you get a chance to watch.
24:37
Speaker 3: As a fan? Yes, yeah, not a lot. Sometimes I
24:40
Speaker 3: get a little bit of that Saturday, but you know,
24:43
Speaker 3: your focus is always on your team. It's always on
24:46
Speaker 3: what's next. It's trying to see you know, six months
24:49
Speaker 3: down the road, twelve months down the road, so you're
24:51
Speaker 3: always you know, this is a full time job, and
24:53
Speaker 3: it's really a full time job three sixty five, So
24:55
Speaker 3: that's where your focus, you know, it has to be.
24:58
Speaker 3: But that's what makes us fun.
25:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you ever watching watching games that ooh, that's
25:04
Speaker 2: a that's.
25:04
Speaker 4: A good player.
25:05
Speaker 1: Hopefully I would never mind if he hopped into portal.
25:08
Speaker 3: You know, there's certainly times where you pay attention as
25:11
Speaker 3: you're going through the season, you make notes on guys
25:15
Speaker 3: that you think could be a dynamic piece of your team.
25:18
Speaker 3: But for us, at least, we've done such a good
25:21
Speaker 3: job in recruiting and we've done a really good job
25:23
Speaker 3: in development. For us, it's more about you know, retaining
25:26
Speaker 3: our roster, keeping great players around, which we're really fortunate,
25:30
Speaker 3: you know, going into your five year we haven't lost
25:32
Speaker 3: the start of the transfer portal ik. I think that
25:34
Speaker 3: speaks volumes about our players enjoy being here. They feel
25:36
Speaker 3: like they're being developed, they're growing, they have the opportunity
25:39
Speaker 3: to win, they're taking care of all those things happen.
25:41
Speaker 3: If those things don't happen, I think you see a
25:43
Speaker 3: lot of changes.
25:44
Speaker 2: How much of that is based upon whoa roster retition
25:48
Speaker 2: how much of it is based upon relationships versus the
25:52
Speaker 2: finances of it and things like that.
25:54
Speaker 3: It all plays apart, you know, it all plays apart.
25:56
Speaker 3: And then again, I still think the Portal can be
25:58
Speaker 3: a great tool for guys that need a new opportunity,
26:01
Speaker 3: that need a new chance. We've had guys that left
26:03
Speaker 3: this program that I was, you know, their biggest advocate
26:06
Speaker 3: that Okay, hey, let's go get you somewhere where you're
26:07
Speaker 3: gonna get on the field and take advantage of it.
26:09
Speaker 3: So it's hard, you know, and especially if you're not
26:12
Speaker 3: in these walls every single day and you get to
26:14
Speaker 3: see it, you don't necessarily know what the plan of
26:16
Speaker 3: the program is. And that's okay. We don't need anybody
26:18
Speaker 3: else to know the plan. But I think it's important
26:21
Speaker 3: that you have great dialogue and great communication. And what
26:24
Speaker 3: we've been able to do here is we have guys
26:25
Speaker 3: that are really good at communicating, you know, exactly where
26:28
Speaker 3: they're at in their situation, and people have to decide
26:30
Speaker 3: what's best for them. And we've been able to bring
26:32
Speaker 3: phenomenal players into our program, you know, through the portal.
26:35
Speaker 3: We've lost some good guys to the Portal as well.
26:37
Speaker 3: But it could have been the right opportunity for them
26:39
Speaker 3: to move on.
26:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you started out as a GA, and how
26:43
Speaker 2: has the role of a GA changed from when you
26:45
Speaker 2: first got the job to now?
26:47
Speaker 3: You know, I think one of the biggest advantages early
26:49
Speaker 3: on in my coaching career is GA's were one of
26:51
Speaker 3: the few positions that could still coach on the field,
26:54
Speaker 3: and now that's changed. We're really everybody in your organization
26:57
Speaker 3: you know that works for you has the ability to coach,
26:59
Speaker 3: which I think is it's a great rule. It's a
27:00
Speaker 3: great opportunity for more young coaches to be able to
27:04
Speaker 3: develop and grow analysts, to be able to make an impact.
27:06
Speaker 3: You talk about one of the biggest teams on a
27:08
Speaker 3: college campus as the football team, right, if not the biggest,
27:12
Speaker 3: And a lot of times it was a lot less
27:14
Speaker 3: coaches in comparison player to coach. So now we have
27:16
Speaker 3: more people that can coach. But when I started early,
27:19
Speaker 3: you know, you get the opportunity to coach, but you're
27:20
Speaker 3: also the guy getting coffee, you know, making the exos,
27:24
Speaker 3: doing the film breakdown, drawing cards. You wear a lot
27:26
Speaker 3: of hats and we're blessed now to have a lot
27:28
Speaker 3: more people in the organization. But because of that, when
27:30
Speaker 3: you're wearing a lot of hats, you get to learn
27:32
Speaker 3: every role in the organization, which makes it special.
27:35
Speaker 2: And you've got the job. And obviously it's been told
27:38
Speaker 2: everywhere where. You drove all the way to pit and
27:41
Speaker 2: you and you waited and you waited. Has anybody tried
27:44
Speaker 2: that with Dan lady.
27:46
Speaker 3: We've had a few. Yeah, we've had a few. And
27:48
Speaker 3: you know, I always try to be aware of guys
27:51
Speaker 3: in that situation that take that risk and go, but
27:54
Speaker 3: also know that every situation is different, and that's that's
27:57
Speaker 3: not a guarantee to an opportunity, right, So you got
27:59
Speaker 3: to take the opportunities where they're at.
28:01
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about your son for a second,
28:03
Speaker 2: because you've talked about how much he loves to read.
28:07
Speaker 2: Have you gotten him into football or has he gotten
28:09
Speaker 2: you more into books?
28:11
Speaker 4: You know?
28:11
Speaker 3: All right? Right now, I'm reading a book a month,
28:13
Speaker 3: which I don't necessarily love reading a book a month,
28:15
Speaker 3: but I think it's an opportunity for me to get better.
28:17
Speaker 3: It's an example of the growth. So now's though Noles
28:19
Speaker 3: is Noiles, he is true to himself. He's got his lane.
28:22
Speaker 3: He enjoys make, you know, reading books, you know, watching movies,
28:27
Speaker 3: making movies himself. He's very creative. My youngest Titan is
28:30
Speaker 3: into football right. In fact, he had two touchdowns last
28:34
Speaker 3: night and apparently or excuse me, a touchdown and extra
28:36
Speaker 3: point and two pick sixes last night in his back game.
28:39
Speaker 3: So I got to see. I was in Idaho hanging
28:42
Speaker 3: out with Kenyan, but my wife was sending me video
28:44
Speaker 3: clips as it was happening. So it's fun to go
28:45
Speaker 3: through it with him. And then our oldest is playing tennis.
28:48
Speaker 3: He's in the band Kayden. He's an unbelievable kid, just
28:51
Speaker 3: turned sixteen. So it's fun watching these guys grow up quick.
28:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a as a parent, man, the days are long,
28:59
Speaker 2: but the is a short. So when you're watching them
29:03
Speaker 2: and you're watching your wife and you know how much
29:05
Speaker 2: work that you're putting in and how much work that
29:07
Speaker 2: she's putting in, like, how do you keep that balance
29:10
Speaker 2: with the with the family and everything else.
29:13
Speaker 3: Well, there isn't balance, right, and this profession, there's no balance.
29:16
Speaker 3: And I don't know if your iPhone's like mine, but
29:18
Speaker 3: every once in a while it pops back those flashbacks.
29:21
Speaker 3: I don't reflect a lot on football, But I reflect
29:23
Speaker 3: a lot of my kids. I reflect a lot on them. Man,
29:25
Speaker 3: look how small they are catching their first fish in
29:28
Speaker 3: this picture, or how much they've grown over the years.
29:31
Speaker 3: And that's the flashbacks that I like to go ahead
29:33
Speaker 3: and reset and enjoy. What I try to do is
29:35
Speaker 3: be really intentional with my time when I have time.
29:38
Speaker 3: So if I have an opportunity that I can devote
29:40
Speaker 3: time to my family, that's who's devoted to. That's who
29:43
Speaker 3: it's secured for. And when I don't, you know, I
29:46
Speaker 3: think the one lesson that my kids will be able
29:47
Speaker 3: to learn is, Okay, they're sacrifice involved in hard work,
29:51
Speaker 3: and they know they're gonna know what hard work looks like.
29:53
Speaker 3: So when they're professionals down the road, whatever they're doing,
29:56
Speaker 3: I think they're going to know it requires something to
29:58
Speaker 3: try to be you know, the best and the best
29:59
Speaker 3: in your.
29:59
Speaker 2: Field and been the best of the best of beings,
30:02
Speaker 2: being able to adapt and change and uh. Jeff Chot
30:06
Speaker 2: of the Court of the head coach over at Nevada,
30:10
Speaker 2: he talked about that his recruiting pitch is now, hey,
30:14
Speaker 2: come come here out of high school. We will develop
30:17
Speaker 2: you and get you a million dollars to go to Oregon.
30:20
Speaker 4: That that a quote.
30:21
Speaker 2: If you were at a you know, a G six school,
30:24
Speaker 2: would that kind of be your approach to it too.
30:26
Speaker 3: I would, you know. I don't spend a lot of
30:28
Speaker 3: time thinking about hypotheticals, but I do think adapting is
30:31
Speaker 3: probably the biggest trade that coaches have to have in
30:34
Speaker 3: football today. Yesterday is different, you know than tomorrow, and
30:39
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be that way in college sports.
30:41
Speaker 3: And it's always about being on the cutting edge. And
30:43
Speaker 3: that's one thing I actlutely love about Oregon as they're
30:46
Speaker 3: always on the cutting edge. They're always looking for what's next.
30:48
Speaker 2: I want to go back to football for second, because
30:51
Speaker 2: I thought about it from the draft, right, So prior
30:54
Speaker 2: a couple of days prior to the draft, you you
30:56
Speaker 2: had Ty Simpson talking about they're pretty simple. I mean
30:59
Speaker 2: when you watch film, they're simple but complicated at the
31:03
Speaker 2: same time. It was like being like watching them perfect.
31:05
Speaker 2: They're always in the right place, doing the right thing.
31:07
Speaker 2: Their defensive coordinator, Brian Haynes, he took umbrage to it. Now,
31:12
Speaker 2: when you were a defensive coordinator, how much of it
31:15
Speaker 2: was like fiery and that there was it felt like
31:18
Speaker 2: a competition with everybody that you were playing against, versus
31:22
Speaker 2: the role now that you're in the head coach where
31:24
Speaker 2: you have to manage everybody.
31:26
Speaker 3: I never spent a lot of time worried about anybody else.
31:28
Speaker 3: I always spend a lot of time worried about us.
31:30
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, Indiana was the best team in
31:33
Speaker 3: college football. That's the one. You know it. It wasn't
31:35
Speaker 3: not necessarily always had the most talent on the field,
31:38
Speaker 3: but they were the best coach team. They did an
31:39
Speaker 3: unbelievable job. What they did on defense they did as
31:42
Speaker 3: well as anybody, right, And they had some variations. They
31:45
Speaker 3: had some stuff that was tough to be able to
31:47
Speaker 3: recognize and notice. I think those are the same things
31:49
Speaker 3: I always tried to do. You know when I was
31:50
Speaker 3: calling the defense, is how can we do a bunch
31:53
Speaker 3: of things that look the same but post snap looked
31:55
Speaker 3: different and become something different. And when you have great
31:58
Speaker 3: players and guys that doing their one eleventh mean all
32:01
Speaker 3: eleven guys are doing the same thing, then you're gonna
32:03
Speaker 3: have a lot of success. But for me, I've always
32:05
Speaker 3: coached with passion. I've always been passionate about what's it
32:08
Speaker 3: supposed to look like. I think that starts in practice,
32:10
Speaker 3: and I can't speak, you know, to that, but it
32:13
Speaker 3: certainly has that feel that Indiana does the same thing
32:15
Speaker 3: that they They work really hard in practice, they work
32:18
Speaker 3: really hard in the film room because when you watch
32:19
Speaker 3: their film, they got eleven guys doing the same thing
32:21
Speaker 3: with a lot of passion and energy.
32:23
Speaker 2: What's the biggest change in you or the coaching for
32:26
Speaker 2: this season? Because obviously every year you grow, you adapt,
32:30
Speaker 2: and you talk about how much that you're always trying.
32:32
Speaker 4: To get better and better and better.
32:34
Speaker 2: And then today in the team meeting room, I saw
32:37
Speaker 2: you show a clip from Drew Brees which I thought
32:39
Speaker 2: was excellent, said that if you're green, you're growing on you.
32:44
Speaker 2: Once you feel like that, you're right that you're rotten.
32:47
Speaker 2: So what was the growth in this year from last year?
32:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's measured in so many different areas because you're
32:53
Speaker 3: not you can't just grow in one area. And I
32:56
Speaker 3: agree with that statement wholeheartedly. It doesn't matter if you're
32:59
Speaker 3: a senior reshman, if you're a coach that's been coaching
33:01
Speaker 3: twenty years or one. There's more to learn because the
33:04
Speaker 3: game of football keeps changing, right there's always people that
33:07
Speaker 3: are innovative. There's new adapt adaptations, and it's the same
33:11
Speaker 3: thing in the game of life. So we want to
33:13
Speaker 3: be a team that's seeking out information right it's looking
33:16
Speaker 3: for opportunities to grow, and we're going to grow a lot.
33:18
Speaker 3: We've added some stuff schematically heading into the next season.
33:22
Speaker 3: We've added some piece of the puzzle. I think the
33:23
Speaker 3: game for coaches is always how do you take your
33:26
Speaker 3: personnel and put them in the best position to have success?
33:29
Speaker 3: Because we have different players based on guys we just
33:31
Speaker 3: lost the draft. We have some different players in different roles.
33:34
Speaker 3: How do we make sure that player can execute at
33:36
Speaker 3: the highest clip, at the highest level. So those are
33:38
Speaker 3: the things that we try to attack. And it's not
33:42
Speaker 3: growth in one field, it's growth in every field.
33:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you are returning to a lot of very
33:47
Speaker 2: good players. On the entire defensive line is back, some
33:51
Speaker 2: of the linebackers are back.
33:53
Speaker 4: You have a Efy.
33:54
Speaker 2: At corner, you have Brandon Finny. When you're a coach,
33:59
Speaker 2: does that feel like, oh, we that this is an
34:03
Speaker 2: opportunity for us this season to do something super special.
34:07
Speaker 3: You know, every season feels like an opportunity And obviously
34:09
Speaker 3: we've been close, but this season is unique, you know,
34:12
Speaker 3: because we do have a lot of veterans coming back.
34:14
Speaker 3: I've been a part of great teams that had unbelievable
34:17
Speaker 3: success that didn't have a lot of guys returning. I've
34:19
Speaker 3: been a part of teams that had a lot of
34:20
Speaker 3: guys returning that didn't have great success. So is that
34:22
Speaker 3: an indicator. Is it something that gives you kind of
34:25
Speaker 3: a leg up and an opportunity to have a great team. Absolutely,
34:29
Speaker 3: but that's not the That's not the only part of
34:31
Speaker 3: the equation. There's a lot of other pieces that have
34:32
Speaker 3: to fall into place. So I have a lot of
34:34
Speaker 3: excitement about this group. Like I said, I think it's
34:36
Speaker 3: a group that's going to be one of our most
34:38
Speaker 3: knowledgeable when it comes to being on the field and
34:40
Speaker 3: how to execute and how to do a job at
34:42
Speaker 3: a certain level. But there's a lot of things that
34:44
Speaker 3: have to happen between now, in that first game and
34:47
Speaker 3: the last game for us to be the team that
34:49
Speaker 3: we can be.
34:49
Speaker 2: You can you talk about the growth of some guys
34:52
Speaker 2: last season, specifically Bear Alexander Brandon Finni who was a
34:58
Speaker 2: true freshman, and Efi and some of the other guys
35:01
Speaker 2: and even Mateo as well.
35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything when it comes to growth starts
35:06
Speaker 3: with self awareness, right, And it's got to be different
35:08
Speaker 3: than a coach just telling you you have to do
35:10
Speaker 3: this better. It's got to be a player accepting that
35:12
Speaker 3: and saying, Okay, this is an area I got to improve.
35:14
Speaker 3: I think somewhere our players have really grown is they
35:16
Speaker 3: become really self aware for me to go to this
35:19
Speaker 3: telescope goal and where I want to be at some point,
35:21
Speaker 3: I got to focus on the microscope and improve these things.
35:23
Speaker 3: I got to go day to day, here's the things
35:25
Speaker 3: that I have to attack. And I will tell you
35:27
Speaker 3: that the growth that's happened to our program is a
35:28
Speaker 3: lot of guys taking that long term goal and chopping
35:31
Speaker 3: it down into a daily process for them to become
35:34
Speaker 3: the player they want. And we've had a lot of
35:36
Speaker 3: success with that.
35:37
Speaker 2: And so how do you balance where you are in
35:40
Speaker 2: your career? Because I called you a veteran coach earlier
35:44
Speaker 2: and you were like, I don't know if I'm quite
35:45
Speaker 2: bettering yet. So but then there are still younger coaches
35:49
Speaker 2: who call you and ask you for things, but then
35:51
Speaker 2: you're going to other people. So how does that balance, like,
35:55
Speaker 2: when do you know it's time to call a mentor
36:00
Speaker 2: and you are yourself a mentor?
36:02
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's always time to reach out and
36:04
Speaker 3: find more and I'm not always you know, drawing inspiration
36:07
Speaker 3: from somebody that's been doing it forever, right, you know.
36:10
Speaker 3: I thought Will had a great idea and practice the
36:12
Speaker 3: other day that we incorporated one of our practices. So
36:14
Speaker 3: Coach Tyn and I still stay in constant communication. A
36:17
Speaker 3: lot of our coaches that have been here, we stay
36:19
Speaker 3: in constant communication. But to me, it's about I can
36:21
Speaker 3: take growth from anywhere. I can learn from anywhere. The
36:24
Speaker 3: key is that you're willing to accept and find ways
36:27
Speaker 3: to continue to improve. So if I can ever provide
36:30
Speaker 3: that for somebody else, great, you know. But ultimately I'm
36:32
Speaker 3: trying to make orgon the best version of.
36:34
Speaker 2: Organ What does success look like for the Oregon Ducks
36:36
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six?
36:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always give the same answer when it's coming around,
36:40
Speaker 3: you know, for us, I don't know where we're at yet, right,
36:42
Speaker 3: but I want us to be the best version of us.
36:44
Speaker 3: What are we capable of doing, how are we capable
36:47
Speaker 3: of performing? How can we maximize that? And what you
36:50
Speaker 3: can't do is there's things you're in charge of and
36:52
Speaker 3: there's things that you control. I want to make sure
36:54
Speaker 3: that we're the best in the nation controlling all the controllables,
36:57
Speaker 3: and at the end of the season, I'd like people
36:58
Speaker 3: to say that was the best team and we'll see
37:01
Speaker 3: where the results fall, right, But the best team guys
37:03
Speaker 3: that work together, connected as a unit, got improved every
37:07
Speaker 3: single week, improved each season, which we've been able to
37:11
Speaker 3: accomplish here, and some guys that were able to put
37:13
Speaker 3: some stuff on the line and sacrifice something right for
37:16
Speaker 3: the betterment of the team.
37:17
Speaker 2: So obviously you had two really good coordinators last year
37:20
Speaker 2: in Tash Lupoie on defense and will Sign on offense,
37:24
Speaker 2: and now you're breaking in Marriager in Hampton. What's different
37:29
Speaker 2: with them compared to the way that it was done,
37:31
Speaker 2: which was done really well.
37:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
37:33
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, first, you always hope that there's somebody
37:35
Speaker 3: in your organization that maybe fits that mold that you've
37:37
Speaker 3: seen the leadership qualities, the characteristics, the development of their
37:41
Speaker 3: position and the things that they were charged with that
37:43
Speaker 3: allows them to go have success. You know, Drew and
37:46
Speaker 3: hamp have done an unbelievable job at their positions, and
37:49
Speaker 3: whatever they were charged with in our program, they've attacked
37:52
Speaker 3: it one hundred percent and they've done it really, really well.
37:55
Speaker 3: So I think it starts there, you know, and you
37:57
Speaker 3: build a model of Okay, here's how we want to
38:00
Speaker 3: attack things, how we want to achieve things. I think
38:02
Speaker 3: the great thing about hiring people from within is they
38:03
Speaker 3: have an understanding already of how's the organization work? What
38:07
Speaker 3: are you looking for consistently? You know, what can I
38:09
Speaker 3: expect on a Monday, what can I expect on a Thursday.
38:11
Speaker 3: They're prepared for those moments. But then you have to
38:14
Speaker 3: have that skill level and that talent and the ability
38:16
Speaker 3: to go do that next cute and lead people, right.
38:18
Speaker 3: You got to be a great leader of people because
38:20
Speaker 3: you're in charge of your side of the ball. Those
38:22
Speaker 3: guys have those traits, and we had some unbelievable guys
38:25
Speaker 3: you know, in those roles in past seasons for us,
38:28
Speaker 3: but similar to them, they didn't have those roles necessarily
38:31
Speaker 3: until they got those those opportunities presented to them. So
38:34
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what coach Hampton does. I'm excited
38:37
Speaker 3: to see what coach Marringer does what he does in
38:40
Speaker 3: that role, but they would be the first to tell
38:43
Speaker 3: you that it's not just them in that role. It's
38:45
Speaker 3: you know, conversational turn taking in the defensive staff room.
38:47
Speaker 3: It's come up with great ideas and figure out ways
38:49
Speaker 3: to utilize great players right on the offensive side of
38:52
Speaker 3: the ball as well. So a lot of collaborative effort
38:55
Speaker 3: and then guys, you know, rolling the bolt in the
38:57
Speaker 3: same direction.
38:58
Speaker 2: There's a lot of young kids out there. There's a
39:01
Speaker 2: lot of parents, there's a lot of people in general
39:03
Speaker 2: who are new to college football. They're trying to figure
39:07
Speaker 2: out who their team is. Pretend like you're in the
39:11
Speaker 2: living room like you are with a recruit. Recruit me
39:14
Speaker 2: to be an Oregon Ducks fan.
39:16
Speaker 3: Man, that's easy. You know. I asked our team today.
39:19
Speaker 3: I said, raise your hand if you're from Morgan, right,
39:21
Speaker 3: And there was a lot of hands that didn't go up.
39:24
Speaker 3: You know, I said raise your hand if you're not,
39:25
Speaker 3: and a lot of hands did go up.
39:28
Speaker 4: Right.
39:28
Speaker 3: We're a team that represents all areas of the world, right.
39:31
Speaker 3: We've got different countries representing our team, different states. It's
39:34
Speaker 3: a melting pot of people that came here because they chose. Okay,
39:37
Speaker 3: I want the opportunity to develop and grow, get a
39:39
Speaker 3: great education, be surrounded by great fans. You know, I
39:42
Speaker 3: think we have some of the best fans in the
39:44
Speaker 3: nation that support this team in an unbelievable way in
39:46
Speaker 3: a community that's really really fun to grow up in.
39:48
Speaker 3: So the other thing I would look at is, you know,
39:51
Speaker 3: I like to compare our team to stock a stock option,
39:53
Speaker 3: if you had an opportunity to buy Amazon early. Right,
39:56
Speaker 3: you wish you could go back to two thousand and nine,
39:58
Speaker 3: right right now, If you look at the Ducks, consistently,
40:00
Speaker 3: each year, we've gotten better. Right, We've won games at
40:04
Speaker 3: a higher clip. Right, We've been able to put more
40:06
Speaker 3: guys in the draft. We've developed phenomenal humans. And that's
40:10
Speaker 3: a product of the players that have joined this team
40:12
Speaker 3: and the coaches and the job that they've done in
40:14
Speaker 3: this place, this university. Right, it's always been cutting edge.
40:18
Speaker 3: You look right outside the windows, you see buildings going up. Right,
40:21
Speaker 3: you see this place saying Okay, let's level up again,
40:23
Speaker 3: let's go to it. Let's take it to a place
40:24
Speaker 3: that hasn't been yet. And I think that's part of
40:26
Speaker 3: what makes organ so special and when you do it.
40:29
Speaker 3: You can do all those things and grow and challenge
40:31
Speaker 3: yourself every day, but enjoy doing it. And this is
40:34
Speaker 3: a place where you get to enjoy doing it with the.
40:35
Speaker 2: People you do it with, in a place where the
40:37
Speaker 2: grass is damn greed.
40:39
Speaker 4: Appreciate you coming on.
40:40
Speaker 3: Thanks George.
40:43
Speaker 2: It is top ten time, but today it is the
40:47
Speaker 2: only top five. One of the questions that I get
40:49
Speaker 2: as a former NFL player people asking George, what are
40:52
Speaker 2: the worst things that you ever spent your money on?
40:54
Speaker 1: So I got a five list for you guys.
40:57
Speaker 2: Number one. This started out immediate. I hadn't even been
41:01
Speaker 2: drafted yet, already bought a new car. Mind, you have
41:04
Speaker 2: made some money signing cards. Agent fronted me a little
41:08
Speaker 2: bit of bread too. There was no nil at the time,
41:10
Speaker 2: otherwise I'd have been able to buy this thing already.
41:13
Speaker 2: I bought a fifty five sixty thousand dollars Escalad ESV. Mind,
41:19
Speaker 2: just when they first came out with the extra long
41:21
Speaker 2: ESV with the extra long Escalades. And I am one person,
41:26
Speaker 2: I am one man with one ass, and I was like, yeah,
41:30
Speaker 2: I need a because it had the three seats in
41:33
Speaker 2: the back, the two captain chairs, two in the front,
41:35
Speaker 2: so I needed seven seats clearly just for just for
41:39
Speaker 2: me to be riding around in right in case I
41:42
Speaker 2: need to shut on my sisters and all the people
41:44
Speaker 2: around who didn't even live with me. This was crazy.
41:47
Speaker 2: So not only did I buy the card, which okay, cool,
41:50
Speaker 2: that's the car I like, I paid for twenty thousand
41:54
Speaker 2: dollars in upgrades. That's where the real problem was. I
41:59
Speaker 2: painted a black escalade like a dark purplish blue, put
42:04
Speaker 2: spinning rims on that joint, put beat in it to
42:08
Speaker 2: JL audio twelve inches in there, I was beating down
42:12
Speaker 2: the block like you can hear me coming, or just
42:17
Speaker 2: just louding thebknaches right now, mind you. To this day
42:23
Speaker 2: I regret that I had problems out of it with
42:26
Speaker 2: the paint a little bit. And the place I did
42:28
Speaker 2: it was in Modesto. I'm in jack'svield. This is so
42:33
Speaker 2: I can't even get stuff fixed right except paying for
42:36
Speaker 2: it again. The only thing I would do to a
42:39
Speaker 2: new car that I got again is change the rims
42:41
Speaker 2: on it.
42:41
Speaker 1: But outside of that, I put.
42:43
Speaker 2: Beat, not painting it. None of that one one hundred
42:47
Speaker 2: percent waste of money. Get it from the factory. The
42:51
Speaker 2: color that you want.
42:53
Speaker 4: Uh.
42:53
Speaker 2: The second thing, Oh, it was absolutely in clubs. Oh,
42:57
Speaker 2: it was absolutely in clubs. Now granted, over the course
43:00
Speaker 2: of a seven year career, spending you know, sixty seventy
43:06
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in the club, that's not a whole lot
43:08
Speaker 2: of money, but it is though right, you could I
43:11
Speaker 2: could have bought the car, could have bought all sorts
43:13
Speaker 2: of things, and I don't even know how much it was,
43:16
Speaker 2: to really be honest with you, but when you I didn't.
43:20
Speaker 2: I never spent like some of the other guys that
43:22
Speaker 2: I've seen spend twenty thirty fifty one hundred thousand of
43:25
Speaker 2: the night none, no, no, au theum threes five sevens,
43:29
Speaker 2: They all added up to, you know, sixty seventy one
43:32
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Who knows how much I spent in
43:34
Speaker 2: the club, but that is absolutely money wasted. And you
43:37
Speaker 2: know why, because I was trying to impress people. I
43:40
Speaker 2: wanted some I essentially was paying somewhere to sit down.
43:43
Speaker 2: Now imagine how much baller I would have would have been.
43:46
Speaker 2: So I'm paying for a bottle of gray Goose or
43:49
Speaker 2: a bottle of whatever I'm drinking, and instead of you know,
43:55
Speaker 2: going to the liquor store where you would pay forty
43:58
Speaker 2: fifty bucks for seventy bucks for a bottle, You're.
44:02
Speaker 1: Paying ten times that in the club. So I'm paying.
44:06
Speaker 2: Overpriced to sit somewhere down. Now, Imagine if I had
44:09
Speaker 2: been out in the club just chilling, because you know what,
44:12
Speaker 2: I was in the club try to get some girls,
44:15
Speaker 2: or I was with a girl trying to press whatever
44:17
Speaker 2: it was. Now, Imagine had I just gone to the
44:19
Speaker 2: bar and just just been like, yo, everybody drinks on me,
44:24
Speaker 2: I still would have came out cheaper and still would
44:27
Speaker 2: have been Justice baller and Justice player. I'm not telling
44:30
Speaker 2: you to do that. I'm just saying how this whole
44:32
Speaker 2: thing works, all right. The next thing, the number three
44:37
Speaker 2: thing that I regret spending money on, is an NFL player.
44:41
Speaker 2: It was a cashmere coat. Okay, I spent three thousand dollars,
44:47
Speaker 2: And you're like, George, out of all of these things
44:48
Speaker 2: at three thousand dollars coat, yes, because it wasn't just
44:52
Speaker 2: a coat. It was that plus a Louis Vatine beanie
44:56
Speaker 2: and a scarf. Right at the Black Domier print. We
45:00
Speaker 2: were going to go play in Chicago, and we were
45:03
Speaker 2: going to go play in Chicago in December.
45:06
Speaker 1: I know this on the schedule.
45:07
Speaker 2: I get a nice suit made dark charcoal suit, and
45:11
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna be real player. I'm getting a
45:14
Speaker 2: trench coat, a Kashmir trench coat, three quarter linked. I'm
45:19
Speaker 2: about to be so fired. I got my leather gloves.
45:24
Speaker 2: I went and got a Louis beanie and scarf. Now,
45:28
Speaker 2: mind you, I didn't get one of the heavyweight ones.
45:30
Speaker 2: I got one of the little thing joints. So it's Chicago.
45:34
Speaker 2: We get off the plane, and mind you, when you're
45:36
Speaker 2: an NFL player, you get off the plane and you
45:39
Speaker 2: don't get off on the and go into the airport.
45:43
Speaker 2: You go straight down the ramp like the president does.
45:46
Speaker 2: Buses waiting on you, you hoping the bus, so you're actually
45:49
Speaker 2: out in the elements.
45:50
Speaker 1: It was two degrees outside.
45:54
Speaker 2: I'm walking to the front of the airplane, hit the
45:57
Speaker 2: left to go off, and that wind in Chicago when
46:02
Speaker 2: I stepped on to the to the little ramp flew
46:07
Speaker 2: up underneath my jacket and disrespected this three thousand dollar
46:12
Speaker 2: coat and this beanie so badly, so badly.
46:17
Speaker 1: I was pissed. I was like, so I nen paid
46:20
Speaker 1: all of this.
46:21
Speaker 2: I had paid eight hundred dollars for this scarf and
46:23
Speaker 2: beanie and all that, and then a three thousand dollars.
46:25
Speaker 1: Coat to be cold. Oh, I was so upset.
46:29
Speaker 2: I was furious, and I was like, man, I could
46:33
Speaker 2: have went down and to and got a London fog
46:37
Speaker 2: coat and like one of the a name brand trench
46:41
Speaker 2: coat instead of getting a custom made for myself. I
46:46
Speaker 2: could have went and got it Taylor, and then went
46:48
Speaker 2: and got a nice you know, fur beanie or something
46:51
Speaker 2: to keep me warm for literally less than half the price.
46:57
Speaker 1: So won't do that again.
46:59
Speaker 2: That changed my old thing about buying clothes for function
47:03
Speaker 2: as opposed to trying to be cute.
47:05
Speaker 1: And if it's gonna be cute, it gotta be.
47:07
Speaker 2: If it's gonna be dope, but I'm gonna be fly,
47:08
Speaker 2: gotta be functional too.
47:11
Speaker 1: A fourth thing two watches that I bought.
47:16
Speaker 2: Now, mind you, I didn't understand Drewelry how Drewelry worked.
47:20
Speaker 2: You know, when you're young, you want to bust down
47:22
Speaker 2: watch blinging everywhere, just shining. I couldn't even tell the
47:26
Speaker 2: time on this watch. It had diamonds everywhere. And so
47:32
Speaker 2: it's already a danger to be wearing it because it's
47:34
Speaker 2: kind of unsafe. But you know, I'm a big football player.
47:37
Speaker 2: I'm good, right. So the issue came was when I
47:42
Speaker 2: figured out I'm not wearing this watch no more. I
47:44
Speaker 2: paid sixty thousand dollars for this watch. When it came
47:48
Speaker 2: time to sell the watch, that's when I got my education.
47:51
Speaker 2: I got fifteen thousand dollars for the watch or twenty
47:55
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for the watch that I paid sixty thousand
47:58
Speaker 2: dollars for. Now imagine that had I at that point
48:02
Speaker 2: in time, I thought Rolexes were for old men. So
48:04
Speaker 2: now imagine if I had bought a sixty thousand dollars Rolex,
48:08
Speaker 2: I could have bought a presidential with some diamonds in it,
48:11
Speaker 2: and when it came time to sell it, I'd have
48:13
Speaker 2: sold it for seventy thousand. So that taught me about Drury.
48:17
Speaker 2: Stop just trying to buy what looks cool and all
48:20
Speaker 2: this stuff. Buy some real gold, Buy you some watches
48:23
Speaker 2: that will appreciate and stuff like this, and you will
48:25
Speaker 2: be just fine. Number five, This will hurt a little bit.
48:31
Speaker 2: It's lawyers, all one hundred percent lawyers. Because when you
48:35
Speaker 2: have a blended family, you have and and this goes to, actually,
48:39
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave that on a.
48:44
Speaker 1: Last thing. Gambling. Oh boy.
48:48
Speaker 2: Now, granted I had some big wins. I had some
48:51
Speaker 2: big wins. It was in Vegas one well over one
48:55
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in cash one time. I played a
48:59
Speaker 2: lot of poke, did well at that. But there was
49:03
Speaker 2: a time I was in the Bahamas people and.
49:07
Speaker 1: I was there.
49:08
Speaker 2: I lost fifty thousand dollars in three days. I'm gambling,
49:15
Speaker 2: playing craps, I'm playing roulette, I'm playing anything up in
49:19
Speaker 2: the casino, and I'm just getting knocked over the head.
49:23
Speaker 2: And I was down there at the Atlantis, and I
49:26
Speaker 2: was staying at the Cove, and I'm just sitting there
49:29
Speaker 2: gambling outside, gambling there. And I never forget the pit
49:34
Speaker 2: in my stomach. When I got to fifty thousand dollars,
49:37
Speaker 2: I wanted to throw up. I went and mind you,
49:40
Speaker 2: I was out there for a football camp. I still
49:42
Speaker 2: had two more days because of tight end news to
49:46
Speaker 2: play for the Cincinnati Bengals. Was Behamian. He would always
49:49
Speaker 2: have a camp down there. Went down there to go
49:51
Speaker 2: work as camp. I promise you. I sat in my
49:55
Speaker 2: room for the next two days outside of going to
49:58
Speaker 2: the camp and just wanted to just throwout, oh colossal
50:02
Speaker 2: waste of money. But y'all like to hear about these
50:05
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50:08
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