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Speaker 2: by way of radio right now, yesterday was a big
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Speaker 2: news day. And you know, if you're in California today,
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Speaker 2: you woke up up and you found out that a
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Speaker 2: couple of common sense people are actually politically poised in
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Speaker 2: such a way to possibly help bring some sanity back
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Speaker 2: to that rather ungovernable state. I say it's ungovernable because
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Speaker 2: it's been, you know, over the last number of years,
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Speaker 2: so controlled by just one side of the political spectrum,
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Speaker 2: and they've had no accountability. And when you have no accountability,
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Speaker 2: things go sideways really badly. There's nobody keeping you in check.
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Speaker 2: There's no one telling you, hey, you got on the
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Speaker 2: crazy train, you've gone too far, you probably don't want
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Speaker 2: to do that. Those types of helpful corrections don't get
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Speaker 2: done when you lack accountability. And that's why it's hard
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Speaker 2: for either political party to have and maintain power for
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Speaker 2: any length of time, because eventually corruption and lack of
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Speaker 2: lack of you know, accountability, all take all take place,
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Speaker 2: and you've got you need to have. You need to
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Speaker 2: have those things in your life that keep you balanced.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I think that marriage is such a
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Speaker 2: gift for so many people, because if we all just
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Speaker 2: grew old on our own without relationships, we would be
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Speaker 2: a nasty bunch. Humans are not nice, and it is
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Speaker 2: accountability that helps civilize us. It's accountability that helps keep
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Speaker 2: us within proper boundaries. It's accountability that says, hey, don't
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Speaker 2: go that far. And I have found, at least in
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Speaker 2: my own life, that no one has done that better
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Speaker 2: for me than my lovely bride. She really knows how
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Speaker 2: to lovingly tell me what is important and help me
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Speaker 2: see at times things that I don't see on my own.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I'm really grateful for that. Some
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Speaker 2: people would say I don't appreciate it, spouse that nags me,
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Speaker 2: or whatever, look I need nagging. I'm not gonna I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna lie about it. But so do so do
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Speaker 2: political parties. And so what the people of California said
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Speaker 2: last night is maybe we should take a chance on
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Speaker 2: something other than what we've done, and in fact, in
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Speaker 2: California the governor's race yesterday, at least as of the
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Speaker 2: vote count that I'm seeing right now, they're going to
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Speaker 2: go to a runoff. They have what's called jungle primaries
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Speaker 2: in California, and so you've got just the top two
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Speaker 2: candidates that get the most that usually go to the runoff.
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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be Steve Hilton for the Republicans, who's
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Speaker 2: come out with a very fiscally responsible program in terms
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Speaker 2: of what he would like to see happen under his governorship,
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Speaker 2: versus Bassara Secretary Bassa who worked in the Biden administration,
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Speaker 2: and even in a really state like California, people kind
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Speaker 2: of had their eyes opened during the Biden years. And
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Speaker 2: I don't think that necessarily being in the Biden administration
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Speaker 2: is quite the advantage that some being in some presidential
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Speaker 2: administrations have. If you served in the Reagan administration, then
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Speaker 2: you were golden to go get elected during the second
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Speaker 2: term of Reagan in the term of H. W. Bush,
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Speaker 2: because the policies worked and helped people. Similarly, at least
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Speaker 2: in some states, if you were part of the Trump administrations,
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Speaker 2: you can run for office and do pretty well. But
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Speaker 2: that's where we're at these days. And Steve Hilton did
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Speaker 2: get the most votes and is headed to the runoff
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Speaker 2: with Secretary Biserra. So it'd be interesting to see how
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Speaker 2: that goes, and even more entertainingly in my book, because
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Speaker 2: it's one thing for the whole state to say, you know,
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Speaker 2: balance this stuff out, But when you're talking about a
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Speaker 2: stronghold like Los Angeles, and you're talking about a dufus
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Speaker 2: mayor who could not have handled nearly everything on her watch. Worse,
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Speaker 2: Karen Bass is the face of that, and she didn't
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Speaker 2: have water in the reservoirs for the fires when the
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Speaker 2: Palisades burned to the ground. She still doesn't have the
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Speaker 2: Palisades being rebuilt because of all kinds of obstruction that
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Speaker 2: the city and the state have thrown at the people
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Speaker 2: that had the houses. And part of that is friends.
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Speaker 2: Just to be candid, people that lived in the Palisades
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Speaker 2: had big lots of property, and they had nice homes,
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Speaker 2: and they had you know, it was a somewhat wealthy area.
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Speaker 2: I know a couple of people that had their homes,
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Speaker 2: their entire lives just erased. Well, there are those in
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Speaker 2: California that don't think that people who have earned and
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Speaker 2: built up that type of life have a right to
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Speaker 2: keep it. And it doesn't matter how much philanthropy they've done,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how much good they've done with the
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Speaker 2: prestige and the wealth that they've grown. They just think
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Speaker 2: that you just shouldn't have it. And I think there's
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Speaker 2: some of that that's worked its way into this hole.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to rebuild the Palisades. But if that
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Speaker 2: was just the one thing Karen Bass had dropped the
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Speaker 2: ball on, that would be bad enough. But one of
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Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt, who is the he's now going to be
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Speaker 2: in the runoff with Karen Bass. One of the funniest
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Speaker 2: things that he did for his campaign is he took
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Speaker 2: a stencil out to just a normal sidewalk in Los
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Speaker 2: Angeles and he didn't use paint. All he used was
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Speaker 2: a powerwasher and he put the stencil down on the
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Speaker 2: sidewalk and he blasted the powerwasher on the stencil, and
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Speaker 2: the stencil said something about if you think all of
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Speaker 2: La should be this clean, vote for vote for Spencer.
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Speaker 2: And you pick up the stencil and the area where
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Speaker 2: they blasted was completely clean, and all it was was
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Speaker 2: a powerwash. They didn't. They didn't paint the sidewalk. They
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Speaker 2: just powerwashed the sidewalk. And he's like, look, we can
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Speaker 2: do better than this. And he's come up with plans
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Speaker 2: for everything from crime to the economy to housing. There's
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Speaker 2: so much that he's gone public on. So if you're
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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, if you're hearing me on kr LA, especially, friends,
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Speaker 2: do yourself as a favor and get a mayor that
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Speaker 2: actually cares about your city and cares about the people
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Speaker 2: in your city and wants to make every Los Angeleans
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Speaker 2: life better. I just I don't. I don't see how
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Speaker 2: you can, you know, give even give Karen Bass a
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Speaker 2: second look. And I know that she has the democratic
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Speaker 2: machine behind her. But friends, you can overcome that if
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Speaker 2: you get out to vote and actually do something about that.
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Speaker 2: And I hope that you will because I think I
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Speaker 2: think the people of Los Angeles and the people of
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Speaker 2: California deserve better than what they've gotten. So it'll be
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Speaker 2: interesting to see how that goes in November. All Right.
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Speaker 2: We've also got some developments that have come about in Iran,
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Speaker 2: and one of the allies of the US in that
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Speaker 2: conflict is not pleased. I'm going to tell you more
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Speaker 2: about that coming up. And then there's a very interesting
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Speaker 2: survey that I want to get to today. There's a
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Speaker 2: move amongst public opinion that is not what people thought
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Speaker 2: it would be, and I think I have some reasons
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Speaker 2: as to why I think it came about. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: about those before we're done. Common sense still rules the day,
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Speaker 2: and that's because I think a lot of it's just
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Speaker 2: based in eternal truth. But that's a different story. All right,
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Speaker 2: Kevin mccallaugh, We've got a lot to get to. We're
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Speaker 2: Kings nineteen. This is what Pastor Jenkins has titled the
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Speaker 2: Anatomy of the Cave Elijah and the Psychological Implications of Isolation.
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Speaker 2: Sof here, that's a that's a mouthful, but it's we've
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Speaker 2: covered some important topics thus far. What are we looking
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Speaker 2: at today?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, today we're talking about tuning out the noise, and
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Speaker 6: really it's about becoming desensitized to the spectacular. Where experience
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Speaker 6: teaches us we should expect chaos, but our personal response
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Speaker 6: is that we need quiet. The quiet is needed, is
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Speaker 6: needed for recovery. The scriptures here verses eleven through twelve,
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Speaker 6: where he says, go out and stand on the mount
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Speaker 6: before the Lord.
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Speaker 2: Behold.
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Speaker 6: The Lord passes by. Of course, there's this great and
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Speaker 6: strong wind. It tears into the mountains by Elijah realedges
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Speaker 6: that the Lord is not in the wind. After the wind,
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Speaker 6: the earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake,
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Speaker 6: And then a fire, but the Lord was still not
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Speaker 6: in the fire. And after all of those spectacular events,
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Speaker 6: he finds that it's in the still small whisper. He
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Speaker 6: finds the Lord.
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Speaker 2: Now, this is an interesting passage for people that are
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Speaker 2: just joining us today, we've been looking at Elijah and
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Speaker 2: give us the context again. He's just had this huge
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Speaker 2: victory over the prophets of Bail where the contest was
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Speaker 2: to see who's God could light the altar on fire.
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Speaker 2: And not only did God of the Bible light the
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Speaker 2: altar on fire, not only did Yahweh win the battle,
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Speaker 2: but he burned up everything else that the false prophets
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Speaker 2: had had. So it was not just a it was
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Speaker 2: not just a win. It was a good old butt whoop.
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Speaker 2: And as we said growing up in Texas and so
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Speaker 2: that was a really high moment. But this all follows
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Speaker 2: immediately on the heels of that, and we've looked at
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Speaker 2: the crash of having that aftermath. You called it the
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Speaker 2: hangover the isolation that we talked about yesterday. So what
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Speaker 2: is the purpose of what we know about this violent
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Speaker 2: wind and earthquake and the fire that Elijah's exposed to.
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Speaker 2: Here does God reveal to us, through through this text
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Speaker 2: or any other eliminated source, that he's doing something specific
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Speaker 2: by sending these stormy, loud things his way.
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Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot there, certainly. As Elijah witnesses the
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Speaker 6: caring wind because it says it tore into the mountain,
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Speaker 6: it literally changes the environment as a result. And then
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Speaker 6: the earthquake and in the fire. These are instances or.
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Speaker 2: Those are not small things where it's not just having
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Speaker 2: a grumpy day like this is bad stuff.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely, but it's also the type of impact. These
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Speaker 6: events have great impact. And this is where Elijah had
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Speaker 6: come to expect that God would be that Yahweh would
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Speaker 6: appear out of the experiences of these great and mighty undertakings.
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Speaker 6: But if the text really really explicitly tells us that
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Speaker 6: God was not in the care chaios, but he was
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Speaker 6: in the silence. And so the Hebrew word there is
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Speaker 6: the mama da ka, and that literally translates to mean
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Speaker 6: a still small voice. So really the phrase here gives
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Speaker 6: us this beautiful paradox. The mama comes from the root
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Speaker 6: to mom, which means to be dumbfounded or to be
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Speaker 6: silent or completely still, and daka means thin, ground down,
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Speaker 6: or crushed into fine dust. So literally it is the
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Speaker 6: sound of a crushing in silence. This isn't just quiet,
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Speaker 6: it's a silence that has been refined, distilled, and ground
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Speaker 6: down until all of the static from the experiences he
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Speaker 6: just witnessed. Is All Gone represents a highly focused state
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Speaker 6: of absolute stillness that forces a hyper vigilant mind to
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Speaker 6: stop scanning for threats and stop looking for a God's
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Speaker 6: appearance in the midst of chaos, but to start listening
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Speaker 6: inward instead. And this is really in response to the
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Speaker 6: fact that hypervigilance can really make us blind to subtle realities.
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Speaker 2: So we can say that again, hold on, say that's
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Speaker 2: that's a powerful statement. Say that one more time.
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Speaker 6: It's how hypervigilance makes us blind to the subtle realities,
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Speaker 6: and that's how we miss God literally.
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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes God does speak loud. I mean C. S.
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Speaker 2: Lewis famously said that he whispers in our pleasure, but
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Speaker 2: he shouts in our pain. But the point that the
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Speaker 2: writer heres is getting to is that I'm asking the
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Speaker 2: point here of the writer is that Elijah was looking
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Speaker 2: at the loud for the answer that the wind and
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Speaker 2: the earthquake and the fire didn't satisfy because they didn't
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Speaker 2: they weren't what he was looking for. What was the
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Speaker 2: what's the good? Was Elia specifically not trying to listen
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Speaker 2: to the still small voice.
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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say he
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Speaker 6: wasn't trying to, I would say that he likely didn't
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Speaker 6: know to. After the experience where the battled against Bail
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Speaker 6: and his prophets concluded, for God not only destroyed all
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Speaker 6: that they placed in an attempt to prove that Bail
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Speaker 6: was the true authority, there was also the spectacle of
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Speaker 6: the fact that everything was drenched on the altar right
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Speaker 6: and what they kept drenching it, and a fire from
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Speaker 6: God overwhelmed that drenching so much so that it's still
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Speaker 6: burnt and it still became ash at dust. So God
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Speaker 6: was overwhelming the situation, overwhelming the opponents, and that was
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Speaker 6: a pretty spectacular events. So coming off the heels of that,
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Speaker 6: after being threatened by one lone person, Elijah is looking
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Speaker 6: for God to deliver again in a spectacular fashion. And
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Speaker 6: so it sort of makes sense because it was profit
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Speaker 6: at this point of fire and of public spectacles. But
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Speaker 6: he expected change to happen through this high volume destructive aims.
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Speaker 6: But when we are anxious and isolated, our minds crave loud,
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Speaker 6: dramatic interventions. And that's the issue. We think a crisis
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Speaker 6: can only be solved at a bigger crisis. He always
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Speaker 6: shows eliged to hear that true restoration sometimes require quiet
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Speaker 6: internal calibration.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, pastors, severe, that's not very that's not very
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Speaker 2: helpful if I want God to do it the way
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Speaker 2: I want him to do it. And Elijah would have
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Speaker 2: some reason to think that because he had just shown
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Speaker 2: this spectacular show of force at the altar of bail
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Speaker 2: And I joke, I say that jokingly because I really
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Speaker 2: struggle with this. This is something that I know. I
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Speaker 2: want to see justice done. I want to see you know,
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Speaker 2: thunderclaps and you know the things that we do crave that,
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Speaker 2: and it is hard in a culture and a life
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Speaker 2: today where everything comes at you one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: five miles an hour, NonStop, for nearly eighteen to twenty
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Speaker 2: hours a day, it just seems seems almost impossible at
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Speaker 2: times to have that resolute stillness, that that true calibration.
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Speaker 2: And it's part of the reason why we do this
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Speaker 2: segment on this show because the rest of the show
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Speaker 2: we talk about all the news and stuff, and it's
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Speaker 2: easy to get filled with anxiety about how rough things are.
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Speaker 2: But this is really that stillness with God is really
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Speaker 2: where we need to be focused every day.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I like to think about it like
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Speaker 6: this too. I have a son who's autistic, and when
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Speaker 6: he becomes overstimulated, you know, he begins to stem or
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Speaker 6: he'll begins to cover his ears. Not because it's too
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Speaker 6: much for him to handle. It's similar to that because
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Speaker 6: psychologically we tend to consume more than we can handle.
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Speaker 6: We tend to reside in the chaos and find comfort there.
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Speaker 6: And even though it's not really a comfortable environment, even
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Speaker 6: hypervigilance leads to the same type of outcome. So to me,
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Speaker 6: the analogy is like this, like a person who lives
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Speaker 6: in a noisy, chaotic city and can no longer hear
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Speaker 6: the birds singing. Our modern media landscape insists everything has
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Speaker 6: to be an earthquake or a firestorm.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so powerful. And you know, my pastor says
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Speaker 2: this regularly. He goes, you know, sometimes this anxiety, this
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Speaker 2: this hyper vigilance, these things that we get worked up
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Speaker 2: about that a lot of it's our own doing. And
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Speaker 2: then he asks, has anybody felt better after you've scrolled
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Speaker 2: your social media feed for a while? And I thought
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Speaker 2: that's a pretty pointed question, because if you think about it,
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Speaker 2: that's exactly how social media works. Hey, look at this,
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Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at what happened here? Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 2: Like that's that's that's all it is, and we need
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Speaker 2: to proactively spend some stillness with God instead.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Really convicting stuff. Pastor Sophia Jenkins, thank you for this
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Speaker 2: week and we will talk to you again tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 7: Kevin.
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Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough coming back from New York. Don't go away,
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Speaker 2: stick around for more of that, Kevin.
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Speaker 1: Next here he is from New York. Exact Ken, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you with us.
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Speaker 2: is more important than almost any other element of knowledge.
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Speaker 2: To clearly understand what truth is and to clearly understand
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Speaker 2: Scott Phelps, people like John stone Street, people like doctor
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Speaker 2: al Muller. I mean, you guys have spared no expense
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Speaker 2: in bringing in the real thinkers that are able to
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Speaker 2: get to the heart of the issue and really break
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Speaker 2: it down.
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Speaker 8: Well, we're so fortunate and thankful that we're able to
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Speaker 8: do that, and that these wonderful speakers you've mentioned three
23:11
Speaker 8: or four of them, we have a twenty eight altogether
23:14
Speaker 8: that have said yes.
23:16
Speaker 2: And you know, another name that many of.
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Speaker 8: Your listeners and viewers will know is doctor George Barne.
23:24
Speaker 8: Doctor Barney has been around a long time, and he's
23:26
Speaker 8: been somewhat a lone wolf out there telling us how
23:30
Speaker 8: bad things were. And I remember thinking hearing him in
23:32
Speaker 8: the nineties, thinking, Georgia can't be as bad as.
23:35
Speaker 5: You say it is.
23:35
Speaker 2: And I've come to realize that he was right. Where
23:38
Speaker 2: was the lie? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
23:41
Speaker 8: And so he's going to be talking about biblical worldview,
23:44
Speaker 8: and course his research is pretty well known in some quarters,
23:49
Speaker 8: maybe not by everybody, but that he says definitively that
23:53
Speaker 8: only four percent of Americans have a biblical worldview, and
23:56
Speaker 8: so he's going to talk about that as well as
23:58
Speaker 8: other things. He's actually gonna be with us three days,
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Speaker 8: and so we're very, very thankful that we have doctor
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Speaker 8: Barnar for three days. But yeah, you mentioned some of
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Speaker 8: the other names. Megan Bashan is a dear friend. We
24:08
Speaker 8: appreciate her writings. And then we have people like Erica Kirk,
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Speaker 8: who is really an amazing woman in so many ways,
24:17
Speaker 8: and the fact that she's able to continue on given
24:19
Speaker 8: all that has happened in her life is just absolutely amazing.
24:22
Speaker 8: It's a testimony to God's grace. I was just with
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Speaker 8: Erika yesterday in Phoenix, and her faith in the Lord
24:29
Speaker 8: is just incredible and it's the only way that she
24:32
Speaker 8: can get through what she's going through right now. Riley
24:34
Speaker 8: Gaines is another very courageous woman who has stood up
24:38
Speaker 8: against some very powerful people to speak the truth. And
24:41
Speaker 8: so we have people like that, and then some people
24:43
Speaker 8: that your viewers and listeners would also know, like doctor
24:46
Speaker 8: Irwin Lutzer, who is going as strong as ever and
24:50
Speaker 8: he has just released another book and he's gonna be
24:53
Speaker 8: with us a couple of days pastor John Amachuku, some
24:56
Speaker 8: of your listeners will know that name. He's gone to
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Speaker 8: school boards, spoken truth in the face of the terrible
25:03
Speaker 8: stuff that's happening in so many of these schools. I
25:05
Speaker 8: was with him when he came to Deerfield Illinois. It
25:07
Speaker 8: was an amazing thing. But he's done that around the country.
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Speaker 8: He'll be speaking, and then we have a number of
25:13
Speaker 8: educational leaders. We have some college presidents that'll be speaking,
25:17
Speaker 8: and members.
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Speaker 2: Of my officials that are joining you as well.
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Speaker 8: Yes, we have Congresswoman Mary Miller. Now, interestingly, she's one
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Speaker 8: of the sole Republican conservative congress people from the state
25:32
Speaker 8: of Illinois. And she's become a dear friend. But let
25:35
Speaker 8: me tell you about Mary, because she was a farmer
25:37
Speaker 8: and she had no desire to go into politics at all.
25:40
Speaker 8: But she's kind of tapped on the shoulder, so she
25:43
Speaker 8: left the farm. Her children, grandchildren, they're all older now.
25:46
Speaker 8: And I was talking to one of my colleagues at
25:49
Speaker 8: turning Point, and I was just telling him that Mary
25:51
Speaker 8: Miller is going to be with us, and I said, actually,
25:53
Speaker 8: Mary's probably the best thing that we have going in
25:56
Speaker 8: the state of Illinois in terms of government. He said,
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Speaker 8: he looked at me, and he said, hutts, Mary Miller
26:02
Speaker 8: is one of the best things.
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Speaker 5: That we have going in the United States.
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Speaker 8: She is a godly woman that loves the Lord first
26:09
Speaker 8: and foremost. I can say that unequivocally. She is seeking
26:12
Speaker 8: to bring conservative values to Washington. She's on the Freedom Caucus,
26:17
Speaker 8: she's on the House Education Committee. She stood against the
26:20
Speaker 8: transgender movement when others would not, and took a lot
26:24
Speaker 8: of heat for it, especially in our state, and they
26:27
Speaker 8: tried to redistrict her out of her office. But she's
26:30
Speaker 8: been able to stay. So you're right, she is one
26:32
Speaker 8: that's going to be with us, and she'll be speaking
26:35
Speaker 8: just before Erica speaks on that Friday.
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Speaker 2: That'd be great. So the dates are June sixteenth through
26:40
Speaker 2: the nineteenth, just outside of the city of Chicago, right
26:44
Speaker 2: by O'Hare Airport. Beautiful place to hold it, and it
26:49
Speaker 2: will be just a phenomenal time. Much of the cost
26:52
Speaker 2: is subsidize. The ticket is only fifty dollars. I think
26:54
Speaker 2: the rooms per night are only seventy dollars. Friends, make
26:58
Speaker 2: an effort to do this home educator, if you're a
27:01
Speaker 2: Christian educator, if you're a public educator, if you're a
27:03
Speaker 2: charter school educator, whatever part of the education equation you
27:08
Speaker 2: are part of, you will be encouraged and you will
27:10
Speaker 2: be challenged, and you will be made to think, and
27:13
Speaker 2: there will be takeaways that you will take back with
27:16
Speaker 2: you into what you're doing that will matter, and it
27:19
Speaker 2: matters because what you do impacts all those little brains
27:22
Speaker 2: of mush that sit in your classrooms and do the
27:25
Speaker 2: things that you give them instructions to do. Even if
27:28
Speaker 2: you're a parent and as a Christian worldview formulated conference,
27:34
Speaker 2: this is going to be an incredible tool to anybody
27:36
Speaker 2: and everybody that has access to it. So here's how
27:40
Speaker 2: you find out more. You go to turningpoint Ed dot com,
27:44
Speaker 2: Turning Pointed dot com, Turning Pointed dot com. Potts, thanks
27:50
Speaker 2: for joining us. We'll talk to you again soon. Kevin
27:52
Speaker 2: mckella coming right back from New York. Don't go.
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Speaker 1: Here, he is from New York. That Kevin McCullough.
28:16
Speaker 2: Welcome back to that Kevin Show. Kevin mccallaugh, Glad to
28:19
Speaker 2: have you with us. Coming up June sixteenth through the
28:22
Speaker 2: nineteenth in the Chicago suburb of Lincolnshire, which is just
28:28
Speaker 2: outside of O'Hare Airport. The Marriott Lincolnshire Resort is there.
28:32
Speaker 2: That's where this fifth annual Turning Point Education Summit is
28:37
Speaker 2: going to take place. And again, if you are anywhere
28:40
Speaker 2: on the educational spectrum in terms of a teacher, an administrator,
28:44
Speaker 2: a pastor, a parent, someone who's concerned about or just
28:47
Speaker 2: investigating curriculum ideas and other things to try to implement
28:52
Speaker 2: into your child's experience, or maybe a classroom that you
28:56
Speaker 2: have stewardship of. This conference is for you, and they
29:01
Speaker 2: have done the ridiculously silly thing only making it a
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars ticket for you to go, and they've even
29:08
Speaker 2: underwritten most of your room. The hotel room is seventy
29:11
Speaker 2: dollars a night. It's normally over two hundred a night
29:14
Speaker 2: for the resort. So would you go to Turning pointed
29:18
Speaker 2: dot com, hold your spot, get your room, and to
29:22
Speaker 2: make plans to be in Chicago June sixteenth through the
29:25
Speaker 2: nineteenth for the Turning Point USA Education Summit, the fifth
29:31
Speaker 2: annual one that they've done, first one that we've been
29:32
Speaker 2: a part of here at that Kevin Show. But very
29:34
Speaker 2: very glad to Scott Feltree, joins us, Scott, There's been
29:39
Speaker 2: nothing that you and I, in our discussions on air
29:42
Speaker 2: over the years, have tracked more heatedly than the role
29:47
Speaker 2: that sex education plays in education. And now that I'm
29:51
Speaker 2: a parent and I have kids going through those grades,
29:54
Speaker 2: and by the way, the mccaullaugh kids are all in
29:56
Speaker 2: public schools, but we have those conversation and we also
30:01
Speaker 2: are blessed in the district that we live in to
30:02
Speaker 2: have a number of believers that work in the school district,
30:05
Speaker 2: and so there's there's a there's a balance there where
30:08
Speaker 2: we've chosen to go down this path. Again, not for everybody,
30:11
Speaker 2: but it kind of regardless of where you're at, you're
30:14
Speaker 2: going to confront sex education, and the message that most
30:18
Speaker 2: of those programs are going to give kids is not
30:20
Speaker 2: wait until marriage. It's going to be something other than that.
30:24
Speaker 2: With the success Sequence program, you actually make the argument
30:30
Speaker 2: that absence until marriage is the way to go. Why
30:34
Speaker 2: is that? Why is that your message? Why is that
30:36
Speaker 2: important in this you know, the twenty twenty six that
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Speaker 2: we live in.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so critical and fits right in with the theme
30:44
Speaker 4: of this conference that you're just talking about now, learning
30:46
Speaker 4: education from it, cultivating clarity in chaos. Oh my goodness,
30:52
Speaker 4: that's where our kids are at right They are just
30:55
Speaker 4: getting pounded by messages, all the messages that they receive
31:00
Speaker 4: aring sex. Think about it this way, I like to
31:01
Speaker 4: put it this way. Think about all the messages and
31:04
Speaker 4: imagery that our kids receive about sex today through the media,
31:07
Speaker 4: through their phones, through their televisions, their tablets, their computers,
31:11
Speaker 4: all the images that they see. It's not just that
31:13
Speaker 4: our kids are exposed to sexual imagery at earlier and
31:17
Speaker 4: earlier ages. But think about this, Kevin, how much of
31:20
Speaker 4: the sex that our kids are exposed to clearly communicates
31:24
Speaker 4: to them the value of sex within the context of marriage.
31:27
Speaker 5: None?
31:27
Speaker 4: And it just isn't It just isn't there, right? And
31:31
Speaker 4: then you say, well, hold on a minute, maybe maybe
31:33
Speaker 4: the schools are helping out. Unfortunately, Unfortunately, what most people
31:38
Speaker 4: will be unaware of, Kevin, is that planned parenthood is
31:42
Speaker 4: not only the largest provider of abortions in America, they
31:44
Speaker 4: are also not coincidentally, the largest provider of sex education
31:49
Speaker 4: in American schools. Think about that for a minute. And
31:52
Speaker 4: so planned parenthood, sex education is the fundamental primary message
31:58
Speaker 4: that our kids receive in school today. Have to have
32:00
Speaker 4: planned parent who come into your school. It's what they
32:03
Speaker 4: learn and teach your school. It's the fundamental message that
32:07
Speaker 4: most schools across the nation teach. It's basically contraceptive education.
32:12
Speaker 4: It's here's all the different types of contraception you're going
32:15
Speaker 4: to be that you're going to need because we know
32:18
Speaker 4: you're all going to be having the sex and there's
32:20
Speaker 4: no reference to marriage whatsoever. We exist to flip the
32:23
Speaker 4: script on that. We believe it's not enough for us
32:27
Speaker 4: Kevin to go to schools and say stop stop giving
32:29
Speaker 4: kids condoms, stop putting girls on birth control pills starting
32:32
Speaker 4: in middle school, stop doing all these bad It's not
32:35
Speaker 4: enough for us to be against that. We have to
32:38
Speaker 4: provide the alternative. And so what the success Sicans program is.
32:43
Speaker 4: It's an alternative to schools to say, hey, listen, here's
32:46
Speaker 4: something that you can teach kids that's healthy and wholesome
32:49
Speaker 4: and helpful and gives them a clear pathway forward in life.
32:55
Speaker 4: The success sequence you're familiar with is three things. Get
32:57
Speaker 4: an education, get a job, and then mary before having children.
33:01
Speaker 4: Students who do those three things, it's almost impossible for
33:05
Speaker 4: them to fall into poverty, on food stamps, on weal
33:08
Speaker 4: for government dependency of any kind. So we can benefit
33:11
Speaker 4: our kids just by teaching them the success sequence. And
33:14
Speaker 4: then we're gonna include with that message a clear message
33:18
Speaker 4: of reserving all sexual activity and child bearing for the
33:22
Speaker 4: context of marriage. We want to help young people understand
33:26
Speaker 4: that by resisting sexual pressure, they're going to be much
33:30
Speaker 4: more inclined to focus on their academics. They're going to
33:32
Speaker 4: do well. It's going to help them prepare well for
33:34
Speaker 4: future education, future marriage, and family. So it's absolutely fundamental,
33:39
Speaker 4: which is why we fit so well with what the
33:41
Speaker 4: Turning Point Education Summit is all about. It's about equipping
33:45
Speaker 4: parents and educators with good quality, wholesome classical education, good messaging.
33:50
Speaker 4: And boy, they've brought in all the experts for it,
33:53
Speaker 4: and we're just we're just thrilled to be a part
33:54
Speaker 4: of it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you very much belong there. And the success sequence
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Speaker 2: program is something that's easy to memorize, it's easy to
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Speaker 2: talk about, and I think it's easy to teach, and
34:07
Speaker 2: I think that what's interesting. And I'm watching the data
34:10
Speaker 2: that people are doing on gen Z and jen Alpha,
34:13
Speaker 2: and these generations are less and less willing to just
34:18
Speaker 2: go along to get along like they they are. They're
34:22
Speaker 2: hungrier for they're so hungry. Truth in fact, the gen
34:26
Speaker 2: Z generation is the first generation in more than one
34:29
Speaker 2: hundred years that has a greater interest in church attendance
34:33
Speaker 2: than the generations before them, and it's growing.
34:36
Speaker 4: Please make that and can I say one thing about
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Speaker 4: that Keviny. It's incredible. I mean, first of all, people
34:40
Speaker 4: need to know Lincoln marriott Shire is a beautiful resort,
34:44
Speaker 4: golf course, wedding venue. It's this isn't just some hotel.
34:47
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful place. And because of their donors, Turning
34:50
Speaker 4: Plane has some wonderful, faithful donors. Seventy five dollars a
34:54
Speaker 4: night for a room at a beautiful resort is crazy stuff.
34:58
Speaker 1: And it's only fifty dollars for.
34:59
Speaker 2: The conference regularly. Yeah, what's that These rooms are regularly
35:02
Speaker 2: two to three hundred dollars a.
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Speaker 4: Night at least at least it's beautiful, So I would
35:06
Speaker 4: encourage you to come. The speakers are terrific. I mean,
35:10
Speaker 4: it's it's a who's who of speakers. It's a wonderful
35:13
Speaker 4: lineup and at a beautiful place. You're gonna love it.
35:16
Speaker 4: Oh and the other thing I wanted to mention is
35:18
Speaker 4: today is the last day for that room rate, that
35:20
Speaker 4: seventy five dollars room rate. They need to register today,
35:24
Speaker 4: So really important that they get online at Turning Pointed
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Speaker 4: dot com today and get registered turning This is excellent.
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Speaker 2: Ed dot com, Turning point Ed dot com down, then
35:35
Speaker 2: make plans June sixteenth through the nineteenth as we are
35:39
Speaker 2: heading into summer. Scott Phelps, thank you for all that
35:41
Speaker 2: you do.
35:42
Speaker 4: So good to see you. Kevin, thank you so much,
35:44
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
35:45
Speaker 2: You got it, Kevin McCollough coming back from New York.
35:47
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.
35:49
Speaker 7: Stick around for more of that Kevin, next time serving
36:03
Speaker 7: it up with a no dream minimum. It's that cabinet
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Speaker 7: the show, all.
36:09
Speaker 2: Right, Welcome back, Kevin Kellac. I'll have you with us
36:11
Speaker 2: final few minutes of the first hour here and always
36:15
Speaker 2: pleased to be able to tell you thank you for
36:18
Speaker 2: stepping up and doing something to help the children that
36:21
Speaker 2: we are desperately trying to help get to Christian Summer
36:26
Speaker 2: Camp this year. The children of Project Angel Tree is
36:31
Speaker 2: who I'm talking about, and when they are when they
36:36
Speaker 2: are looking at the possibility of, you know, day after
36:40
Speaker 2: day not ever knowing what green grass or blue sky
36:45
Speaker 2: or you know, a horseback ride or going fishing or
36:49
Speaker 2: anything like that looks like, and then they suddenly have
36:53
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get an entire week out of their
36:56
Speaker 2: summer in a place that's magical, that has this other
37:01
Speaker 2: worldliness to it. For a child that grows up in
37:03
Speaker 2: the inner city for a child whose parent is in
37:06
Speaker 2: prison and in some way distant from the child in
37:11
Speaker 2: a way that the child had no fault in and
37:14
Speaker 2: can't do anything about. Friends. This is such an important ministry,
37:18
Speaker 2: and I just I want to say thank you because
37:20
Speaker 2: another four of you stepped up yesterday and said I'm
37:24
Speaker 2: going to help. I'm going to help make sure that
37:27
Speaker 2: four more kids can get to Christian Camp this year.
37:32
Speaker 2: And I want to say thank you to those of
37:33
Speaker 2: you that did that, because that's four more lives that
37:37
Speaker 2: you are going to touch that are going to be
37:39
Speaker 2: forever different. Because of six and a half days at
37:43
Speaker 2: a place where all the counselors are Christians, all of
37:47
Speaker 2: the people that will work with them are invested and
37:50
Speaker 2: care about them. They will be in a camping scenario
37:53
Speaker 2: where everyone at the camp will be just like them,
37:56
Speaker 2: though they won't know that when they get there. In fact,
37:59
Speaker 2: Tom tells the story that many times the kids get
38:03
Speaker 2: to camp and they are a little bit, you know,
38:07
Speaker 2: to themselves the first day because they're like, I don't
38:10
Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to know that my mom or
38:11
Speaker 2: dad were in prison. And somewhere around lunchtime, someone elbows
38:15
Speaker 2: them and says, hey, what are your parents in for?
38:18
Speaker 2: And they begin to realize that every child there has
38:21
Speaker 2: a similar experience to theirs. And then the walls come
38:24
Speaker 2: down and friendships are made and discipleship happens, and Jesus
38:29
Speaker 2: gets received by kids friends. The very way that this
38:32
Speaker 2: program even comes about for the child is as follows
38:36
Speaker 2: that the parent is incarcerated. They are in jail, but
38:40
Speaker 2: the parent has completed a Biblical studies course, a Bible
38:45
Speaker 2: study course where they have learned about salvation that Jesus
38:48
Speaker 2: offers and the beginning of a Christian life and what
38:51
Speaker 2: all that means and how it impacts them. And out
38:54
Speaker 2: of the graduating that program, one of the benefits is
38:57
Speaker 2: they get to say, hey, I would like to nominate
39:00
Speaker 2: my child to go to a Christian camp and learn
39:03
Speaker 2: about the same Jesus that I've been learning about. And
39:06
Speaker 2: when they do that, they are given the opportunity then
39:09
Speaker 2: to go to camp on a scholarship and have the
39:12
Speaker 2: opportunity to meet Jesus and to begin their walk with
39:16
Speaker 2: God the same way that their parent has in prison.
39:18
Speaker 2: And friends, this is what we don't want to do.
39:20
Speaker 2: We don't want to rob the child of the same
39:23
Speaker 2: Jesus that the parent found through prison fellowship. What we
39:26
Speaker 2: want to do instead is say to that child, you
39:29
Speaker 2: are loved, you will you will be cared for this
39:33
Speaker 2: week in a way that you've never experienced before. And
39:36
Speaker 2: by the time they get done friends, they're all stand
39:39
Speaker 2: offish at the beginning of the week. By the time
39:41
Speaker 2: the week ends, they're in tears. They're clinging to their
39:45
Speaker 2: counselor because they don't want to leave. They don't want
39:47
Speaker 2: to go home. They have found something special, and the
39:50
Speaker 2: most special thing they have found is a relationship with God.
39:53
Speaker 2: So here's what I need you to do. Our phone
39:55
Speaker 2: line is down. It's not working well, so I'm not
39:59
Speaker 2: going to give you a phone numb. I'm going to
40:00
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40:04
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40:07
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40:10
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40:12
Speaker 2: child to a week of camp, all expenses paid. They
40:17
Speaker 2: won't have anything out of pocket. The camp invests in
40:19
Speaker 2: this too, so there's some skin in the game on
40:22
Speaker 2: their end. And at the end of the day, these
40:25
Speaker 2: children are just loved on by people that God brings
40:28
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40:30
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40:33
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Speaker 2: You know on Wednesdays we spend a little bit of
42:18
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42:21
Speaker 2: some of that in this hour coming up. But doctor
42:24
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42:27
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42:29
Speaker 2: touch on before we get into that. A major US
42:34
Speaker 2: ally in the whole Iran issue by the name of Kuwait.
42:39
Speaker 2: You may remember we went to We went to Kuwait
42:43
Speaker 2: to help them back in the day because they needed
42:47
Speaker 2: our help when Iraq had invaded them. Saddam Hussein all
42:50
Speaker 2: that mess. Well, they are really hurting right now and
42:56
Speaker 2: they are decrying attacks that Iran is out against them.
43:02
Speaker 2: In a statement issued just today by their Foreign Affairs Ministry,
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Speaker 2: the Kuwaitis are saying that the Kuwait International Airport has
43:11
Speaker 2: been targeted by Iran consistently over the last few days.
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Speaker 2: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs expresses the state of Kuwait's
43:19
Speaker 2: condemnation and denunciation in the strongest terms of the brutal
43:23
Speaker 2: and ongoing Iranian attacks using ballistic missiles and drones, the
43:28
Speaker 2: latest of which occurred at dawn today, targeting once against
43:31
Speaker 2: civilian and vital facilities including the Kuwait International Airport, resulting
43:36
Speaker 2: in the death of one individual, injuries to many others
43:39
Speaker 2: in damage to vital facilities including diplomatic missions. The Kuwait
43:44
Speaker 2: Ministry of Defense spokesperson had indicated that a building at
43:48
Speaker 2: Kuwait International International Airport was damaged and people were injured.
43:52
Speaker 2: According to a post on x by the Official Count
43:55
Speaker 2: of the Kuwait Army and General Staff Headquarters, The official
43:59
Speaker 2: spokesman for the Ministry of Defense, Brigader General Saud Abdulaziz
44:05
Speaker 2: al Otaibi, stated that a number of hostile drones targeted
44:11
Speaker 2: today the passenger building Terminal one at Kuwait International Airport
44:15
Speaker 2: as a result of the criminal and Iranian aggression, which
44:19
Speaker 2: resulted in significant material damage to the building and injuries
44:22
Speaker 2: to a number of individuals who received the necessary medical care.
44:27
Speaker 2: Is this this is what Iran is doing out of
44:32
Speaker 2: what motivation? I don't know, but certainly not making sense
44:37
Speaker 2: as to why they're doing it, because they're just further
44:41
Speaker 2: inflaming their neighbors in the region to not want to
44:47
Speaker 2: have good relationships with them. And I think that one
44:50
Speaker 2: of the things that you're going to have to kind
44:52
Speaker 2: of come to understand at the end of the day
44:57
Speaker 2: if you're Iran, if you're Iran, is that you can't
45:00
Speaker 2: live as an island. You can't just say we're going
45:05
Speaker 2: to isolate and be everybody's enemy on the planet. That's
45:08
Speaker 2: not going to work out well for you. You live
45:11
Speaker 2: in and amongst neighbors, and you need to be a
45:14
Speaker 2: good neighbor and shooting at their airports. Shooting at the
45:17
Speaker 2: airports of any country is not the way to do that,
45:21
Speaker 2: much less the ones that you are trying to win
45:25
Speaker 2: to your side. The general also affirmed that the armed
45:30
Speaker 2: forces are monitoring the situation and coordination with relevant authorities,
45:34
Speaker 2: and they are in a state of complete readiness to
45:37
Speaker 2: deal with any developments and to take all necessary measures
45:39
Speaker 2: to preserve the security of the country and its stability.
45:43
Speaker 2: The Iranian hostile hostilities come more than three months since
45:47
Speaker 2: the start of the US and Israeli war against the
45:50
Speaker 2: Islamic Republic, So another thing for the president to think
45:54
Speaker 2: about is he's thinking about US policy in the region
45:57
Speaker 2: and what needs to happen. One of the things that
45:59
Speaker 2: they're going to have to address is why this crew
46:04
Speaker 2: continues to go down this path. There's another very interesting
46:10
Speaker 2: story that I just saw come across the wire. And
46:16
Speaker 2: the reason that this is interesting to me at least
46:18
Speaker 2: is that it addresses something that I think a lot
46:22
Speaker 2: of people thought was kind of never going to go
46:27
Speaker 2: in any other direction than the way it was headed.
46:30
Speaker 2: But the Gallop Organization has done a poll and they
46:34
Speaker 2: are finding that Americans support for things like same sex marriage,
46:42
Speaker 2: the moral rightness of homosexual relationships, and other related issues
46:49
Speaker 2: to those are on the decline. The survey, which got
46:53
Speaker 2: released today, finds that while the majority of American sixty
46:58
Speaker 2: five percent still support legal same sex marriage, that figure
47:02
Speaker 2: has dropped from seventy two percent when it was at
47:08
Speaker 2: its peak in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three,
47:12
Speaker 2: and meanwhile, the moral acceptance of gay and lesbian relationships
47:17
Speaker 2: has dipped to sixty two percent, and Gallup says that's
47:20
Speaker 2: the lowest since twenty sixteen public acceptance and this is
47:25
Speaker 2: this is I think there's a reason why those numbers
47:28
Speaker 2: are the way they are and this is what I
47:30
Speaker 2: think the key is. Public acceptance of gender transition has
47:34
Speaker 2: experienced an even steeper decline over the last five years.
47:38
Speaker 2: Huh what happened over the last five years. Well, a
47:41
Speaker 2: year ago Trump came into office, but four years before
47:43
Speaker 2: that you had Joe Biden, who was pushing gender transition
47:48
Speaker 2: on every elementary school in the country. But public acceptance
47:52
Speaker 2: of that is now at just thirty eight percent of
47:55
Speaker 2: Americans belief changing one's gender is morally acceptable. That's down
48:00
Speaker 2: eight points since twenty twenty one, and fifty seven percent
48:03
Speaker 2: of Americans view it as a morally wrong thing to do.
48:09
Speaker 2: The cultural shift is largely driven by Republicans and to
48:13
Speaker 2: a lesser extent, independence Democrats. Views on LGBTQ issues have
48:17
Speaker 2: remained steady with no changes perceived. Similar pattern emerged on
48:22
Speaker 2: views of morality of same sex marriage, which look, that's
48:26
Speaker 2: no big deal. If you view same sex marriage is
48:30
Speaker 2: morally right, get your view of homosexual relationships is going
48:33
Speaker 2: to be morally right. But the gender transition thing. And
48:37
Speaker 2: I think part of the problem that the LGBTQ advocate
48:43
Speaker 2: forces saw was that Americans understand the difference between homosexual
48:49
Speaker 2: relationships and people that are being pushed to change their gender.
48:54
Speaker 2: Just five percent of Republicans view that is acceptable, forty
48:58
Speaker 2: two percent of Independence and only sixty percent of Democrats do.
49:02
Speaker 2: When Democrats are at eighty seven percent on the gay
49:05
Speaker 2: marriage thing, they're only sixty percent on changing trying to
49:08
Speaker 2: change your sex. That's a that's an interesting trend. I
49:12
Speaker 2: also think another thing has happened over the last few
49:16
Speaker 2: years is that the average person has gotten more educated
49:20
Speaker 2: on what some of this stuff means. And at the
49:23
Speaker 2: end of the day, whether so whether you've had you know,
49:27
Speaker 2: kids that are in school going to science classes or
49:30
Speaker 2: asking theological questions about things related to sexual practice, or
49:36
Speaker 2: you've had parents getting more informed about, you know, what
49:39
Speaker 2: a school's teaching and so forth, you've just had a
49:41
Speaker 2: natural turning to trying to understand what the science says.
49:45
Speaker 2: And when you understand that you cannot actually change someone's sex,
49:50
Speaker 2: that the chromosomes can never be altered, that I think
49:57
Speaker 2: does something that is very significant to a fair minded
50:02
Speaker 2: person that wants to know science. When you see where
50:05
Speaker 2: the science is actually at, that kind of changes things.
50:10
Speaker 2: So it's going to be it's going to be interesting,
50:12
Speaker 2: and we will see, I'm sure even more written on
50:17
Speaker 2: this because of gallup is just triggering it in a poll.
50:20
Speaker 2: Now that means that there's a larger cultural discussion that
50:24
Speaker 2: is soon to be had just around the corner. All right,
50:27
Speaker 2: we're going to talk some very interesting discussions on health
50:32
Speaker 2: and nutrition and wellness. I hope that she'll stay right here.
50:35
Speaker 2: It is Kevin mccullor.
50:36
Speaker 5: We're glad you.
50:56
Speaker 9: Here.
50:56
Speaker 1: He is from New York exactly than Kevin McCullough.
51:03
Speaker 2: All right, welcome, it is Wednesday. You know that we
51:07
Speaker 2: like to turn the fucus in the practical side of
51:10
Speaker 2: the show here to the area of being fit, being healthy.
51:16
Speaker 2: How can we help you be more healthy? How can
51:19
Speaker 2: we help you be well? Wellness is a big issue,
51:22
Speaker 2: and I'm so honored that we have such good contributors
51:26
Speaker 2: to this segment on a regular basis, and I'm really
51:29
Speaker 2: excited to welcome back doctor Ray Solano. You know him
51:31
Speaker 2: from PDX Labs RX.
51:34
Speaker 10: This is the.
51:36
Speaker 2: Pharmacy that you've heard us talk about, nationally licensed but
51:42
Speaker 2: able to get you medications and prescriptions in ways that
51:47
Speaker 2: sometimes just your local Walgreens or whatever refuses to Ray.
51:51
Speaker 2: It's good to have you back. Last time we talked
51:54
Speaker 2: about peptides, and I kid you not, I think it
51:57
Speaker 2: was like someone was listening to our conversation, because this
52:00
Speaker 2: second we got off the air, like the next twelve
52:02
Speaker 2: days in a row, I heard nothing but peptides coming
52:06
Speaker 2: out of other media sources, and I'm like, huh, I
52:08
Speaker 2: wonder if they were listening to to Ray and I
52:10
Speaker 2: chat about that. This week, there's a there's a big,
52:15
Speaker 2: big thing going on with the Food and Drug Administration
52:19
Speaker 2: and their reclassification of something related to thyroid replacement therapy. Now,
52:25
Speaker 2: for people that don't have thyroid issues or any other
52:28
Speaker 2: kind of issues, we want to we want to have
52:30
Speaker 2: them be part of the conversation. So take us into
52:34
Speaker 2: what they're talking about, what this is and what the
52:37
Speaker 2: FDA did.
52:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a This is something that is going
52:41
Speaker 10: to be very important to a lot of people because
52:44
Speaker 10: once you hear about this topic that I'm going to
52:48
Speaker 10: be talking about you, Everyone's going to scratch their head, go,
52:51
Speaker 10: I can't believe what I'm hearing. This is something that
52:54
Speaker 10: has been a drug, desiccated thyroid thyroid has been given
52:59
Speaker 10: to people that have thyroid removal of a thyroid gland
53:04
Speaker 10: or they are low on their thyroid. For over one
53:08
Speaker 10: hundred years, they've been treating millions of people with hypothyroid
53:14
Speaker 10: ism low thyroid, and thyroid has been you know, it's
53:19
Speaker 10: extracted from pig glandulars and it has a similarity to
53:26
Speaker 10: the human thyroid.
53:28
Speaker 5: Very cheap.
53:29
Speaker 10: People have probably heard of armor thyroid used to be pennies,
53:33
Speaker 10: you know, a five to three dollars prescription, and unfortunately
53:38
Speaker 10: there's a lot of controversy of how to replace people
53:42
Speaker 10: with low thyroid medications. So pass forward to twenty twenty five,
53:51
Speaker 10: the FDA with pharmaceutical companies have reclassified a drug that
53:57
Speaker 10: was around before the FDA was ever around, and it's
54:02
Speaker 10: called desiccated thyroid extractor DTE, you'll see it. They're reclassifying
54:08
Speaker 10: it as a biological drug. And when you have when
54:11
Speaker 10: you reclassify it as a biological drug, like chemotherapy other medications,
54:18
Speaker 10: you have to have a special license for it and
54:22
Speaker 10: it's prohibited from compounding pharmacies like pd labs to be
54:27
Speaker 10: able to supply this important medication to close to two
54:31
Speaker 10: million people.
54:33
Speaker 2: Wow, and so.
54:34
Speaker 10: You're scratching your head, go wait a minute, you just
54:37
Speaker 10: say something that's been around for one hundred years, it
54:39
Speaker 10: doesn't hurt anybody. It's a very inexpensive drug, and now
54:45
Speaker 10: a big pharmaceutical company wants to reclassify it so a
54:48
Speaker 10: single manufacturer will.
54:51
Speaker 5: Be able to supply it.
54:52
Speaker 10: Believe me, the price will be hundreds of dollars a month,
54:56
Speaker 10: not tens dollars a month. So guiding this document the
55:02
Speaker 10: FDA is put out there would go into effect, get
55:07
Speaker 10: this in August of this year.
55:10
Speaker 5: Okay, so last year, the entire grassroots.
55:16
Speaker 10: Organizations got to the FDA commissioners, got to our FK
55:19
Speaker 10: junior and everybody to rally around. Pause, don't try to
55:25
Speaker 10: do this again, because this is it's an ongoing battle,
55:29
Speaker 10: been going on for years. However, there's been no updates
55:34
Speaker 10: for this rule to go into effect in August. In
55:36
Speaker 10: many states have already started stopped. Hotel pharmacies do not
55:43
Speaker 10: continue to accept these prescriptions past August no matter what,
55:49
Speaker 10: and physicians have been scared to prescribe it anymore because
55:54
Speaker 10: of this ruling that may come down in August. So
56:00
Speaker 10: again we're talking millions of people, many of them are seniors, okay,
56:05
Speaker 10: that they're not going to be able to get the
56:08
Speaker 10: medic this medication or it's going to be it's going
56:13
Speaker 10: to be changed.
56:14
Speaker 2: This is a big deal and significantly priced out of
56:19
Speaker 2: the normal what people are paying for it now. The
56:24
Speaker 2: number I'm reading is that if this goes into effect,
56:29
Speaker 2: it could end up affecting ten to fifteen million patients
56:33
Speaker 2: that need this drug. Doctor Solano, that's right.
56:37
Speaker 10: The numbers are staggering because close to these hypothyroidism is
56:44
Speaker 10: underdiagnosed and some people are close to eleven million people
56:49
Speaker 10: have hypothyroid disease. Now there are other choices for them
56:56
Speaker 10: that we synthesize. The take the active ingredients T three
57:00
Speaker 10: and T four that are in this, but.
57:05
Speaker 5: That's not the same.
57:07
Speaker 10: The thyroid glandular that's animal source has other active ingredients
57:16
Speaker 10: T one, selenium, other cofactors. That's why people say, I
57:21
Speaker 10: just do better with it, so you can transferm over
57:26
Speaker 10: to the synthetic form.
57:28
Speaker 5: But it's not exactly the same.
57:31
Speaker 10: And if you know of anybody that's taken thyroid, if
57:35
Speaker 10: the littlest change occurs, they just don't feel good.
57:39
Speaker 5: Okay, they're already struggling with comorbidity.
57:43
Speaker 2: Think to be candid, I don't think most Americans understand
57:47
Speaker 2: how significant the thyroid is. Talk to us a little
57:50
Speaker 2: bit about what all areas of health.
57:54
Speaker 5: It impacts the thyroid.
57:56
Speaker 10: Glandeur is that little butterfly organ that's in the UH
58:00
Speaker 10: that's in around your vocal cords of your of your neck,
58:05
Speaker 10: and this this glandular, if a thyroid, takes on all
58:09
Speaker 10: toxins unfortunately and is down regulates your metabolic cycle, your
58:16
Speaker 10: energy level, where your energy levels are, your mitochondria where
58:20
Speaker 10: those where, how how fast it goes, and it connects
58:25
Speaker 10: to your drenal glands okay, and your hypothalmus. So it's
58:31
Speaker 10: it's it's a single it's one leg of a three
58:35
Speaker 10: legged stool that just makes people feel normal.
58:39
Speaker 5: Okay.
58:39
Speaker 10: So when you when you mess up the balance of
58:43
Speaker 10: people's thyroids, okay, you're going to have other conditions cascading
58:49
Speaker 10: from that. And it is not UH and switching over
58:54
Speaker 10: to a synthetic UH hormone is sometimes it's going to
59:01
Speaker 10: be very problematic for patients.
59:04
Speaker 2: Because of the because of the type of substance that's
59:07
Speaker 2: used to synthesize it.
59:09
Speaker 10: Well, there's other The natural versus the synthetic is not identical.
59:15
Speaker 10: It's close, yeah, Okay, so we have some other cofactors
59:20
Speaker 10: and naturally occurring minerals like selenium super critical that is
59:27
Speaker 10: the gasoline or I guess, I guess it's the endery uh,
59:32
Speaker 10: the cofactor that makes the active form of T three work.
59:36
Speaker 10: So there's a lot of positives for natural thyroid.
59:42
Speaker 6: There.
59:42
Speaker 2: So why would why would the government have interest the
59:46
Speaker 2: FDA in particular, have interest in reducing availability to especially
59:52
Speaker 2: for compounding pharmacies like yours. What what's the interest of
59:56
Speaker 2: the FDA in seeing this come to an end? It
59:59
Speaker 2: seems like you would be hurting people right out of
1:00:01
Speaker 2: the gate.
1:00:02
Speaker 10: It's almost a mistake that had occurred when a new drug,
1:00:07
Speaker 10: a new drug application was filed for thyroid medication by
1:00:12
Speaker 10: Abbyva Pharmaceuticals.
1:00:14
Speaker 5: They did it as a hand in glove.
1:00:21
Speaker 10: I guess, procedural matter to make the viro globulin, a
1:00:27
Speaker 10: protein in the pig thyroid glands that is an inactive
1:00:33
Speaker 10: ingredient that's broken down in the stomach and does not
1:00:36
Speaker 10: treat They they had the FDA reclassify that protein as
1:00:43
Speaker 10: a as a product that is a biological thus knocking
1:00:50
Speaker 10: out a competitor and thus allowing it to be approved
1:00:55
Speaker 10: as it So.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: It was one company that pushed it through and it's
1:00:58
Speaker 2: the company that stands to benefit from all of them. Well, friends,
1:01:02
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but if I were if
1:01:05
Speaker 2: I had thyroid issues, and I've doctors have suspected that
1:01:08
Speaker 2: perhaps I've had thyroid issues before, but I don't have
1:01:11
Speaker 2: any at present, I would I would be calling my
1:01:13
Speaker 2: congressman asking them to take a stand on this. Two
1:01:17
Speaker 2: O two two two four thirty one twenty one is
1:01:20
Speaker 2: the capital switchboard. But express to them your concern that
1:01:24
Speaker 2: the FDA is going to suddenly jettison ten to fifteen
1:01:28
Speaker 2: million people off of medication that they desperately need. We're
1:01:32
Speaker 2: talking with doctor Ray Solano. It's our wellness version on Wednesday.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Stay here, stay around for more than Kevin next here
1:01:56
Speaker 1: he is from New York exactly. Kevin McCullough.
1:02:03
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you with us.
1:02:06
Speaker 2: We're talking about wellness and tonight or today. I'm asking
1:02:09
Speaker 2: you to please reach out to your congressional representatives and
1:02:15
Speaker 2: the phone number four the switchboard at the at the
1:02:18
Speaker 2: House of Representatives is two two two two four thirty
1:02:21
Speaker 2: one twenty one. Whoever your congressman is, it doesn't matter
1:02:25
Speaker 2: what party they're from or anything. Whoever your congress person is,
1:02:28
Speaker 2: please call them and ask them to support And I'm
1:02:32
Speaker 2: going to tell you the name of the effort here.
1:02:34
Speaker 2: It's called the Protecting Equal Access to Thyroid Act of
1:02:39
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, the PEAT Act of twenty twenty six.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: It's been introduced by Congressman Ruley from Ohio and Congresswoman
1:02:49
Speaker 2: Harshburger from Tennessee and Congressman Carter all have weighed in
1:02:55
Speaker 2: on this and have participated in the drawing up of
1:02:57
Speaker 2: the language. But what it does is it basically says
1:03:01
Speaker 2: that these medications that you just heard doctor Solano explaining
1:03:05
Speaker 2: to me about in the last segment, should not be
1:03:08
Speaker 2: made less available to people. That's just going to make
1:03:12
Speaker 2: them more expensive for the people that need them. And
1:03:15
Speaker 2: in fact, compounding pharmacies are a really good place to
1:03:18
Speaker 2: allow this to be sold and to be put out there,
1:03:21
Speaker 2: because ten to fifteen million patients will lose access to
1:03:25
Speaker 2: this drug overnight if this FDA reclassification goes forward. And
1:03:30
Speaker 2: so doctor Ray Solano from pd PDX Labs pd Labs
1:03:35
Speaker 2: RX rather is back with us, and Ray, I appreciate
1:03:39
Speaker 2: you bringing our attention to this because things like this
1:03:41
Speaker 2: can easily be missed if we don't know about it
1:03:45
Speaker 2: and thyroid issues. It seems to me, I talked to
1:03:49
Speaker 2: a lot of doctors. It seems to me that thyroid
1:03:52
Speaker 2: impacts a ton of different health areas, everything from how
1:03:56
Speaker 2: good you sleep to the energy level that you were
1:03:59
Speaker 2: talking talking about earlier, et cetera. And it's one of
1:04:02
Speaker 2: the most important things that we need to keep healthy.
1:04:05
Speaker 2: And as we as we age, do does it become
1:04:08
Speaker 2: less effective? Naturally? Is that why there is replacement therapy
1:04:12
Speaker 2: for it?
1:04:12
Speaker 10: Well, what happens is as we age, we live in
1:04:16
Speaker 10: a toxic environment and we many of these heavy metals
1:04:21
Speaker 10: that we are associated with, lead items, mercury fillings, we
1:04:25
Speaker 10: have lead in so many environmental items that we consume
1:04:31
Speaker 10: all seem to attack your thyroid. So as we get older,
1:04:37
Speaker 10: a lot of these things down regulate people's thyroids only
1:04:41
Speaker 10: because of the lives that we live, and so we
1:04:45
Speaker 10: have to do some remediation cleaning out some of those
1:04:49
Speaker 10: toxins or and replacement of thyroid back to its normal levels.
1:04:54
Speaker 5: And it is a complicated process.
1:04:58
Speaker 10: You have to get with a skilled conologist or a
1:05:02
Speaker 10: specialist in integrated medicine define tuneate just like an engine.
1:05:06
Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's tweaking it as small, small changes.
1:05:12
Speaker 2: This seems to me to hit a very difficult demographic
1:05:15
Speaker 2: and one that you know can cause a lot of pain, exactly.
1:05:18
Speaker 10: And I'm a practicing pharmacist and doc doctor Diane Harshberger.
1:05:24
Speaker 10: She's a farm d and she's a practicing pharmacist as well,
1:05:27
Speaker 10: and she's a congress third term congresswoman, so she talks
1:05:31
Speaker 10: to these patients on a daily basis.
1:05:34
Speaker 5: I do as well.
1:05:36
Speaker 10: When you start telling them that the medication they've been
1:05:38
Speaker 10: taking for twenty years is not going to be available,
1:05:41
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, but you start people start to lose it
1:05:44
Speaker 10: on the phone, so.
1:05:48
Speaker 5: They're going to be calling you said, you said.
1:05:49
Speaker 2: This treatment's actually been around for more than one hundred years,
1:05:52
Speaker 2: so this predates a lot of what our modern uh,
1:05:56
Speaker 2: you know, versions would be. And I can understand why
1:06:00
Speaker 2: someone's been taking it for twenty years and they've had
1:06:02
Speaker 2: zero issue with it, why they would freak out a
1:06:05
Speaker 2: little bit if they were going to suddenly not have
1:06:06
Speaker 2: it anymore, exactly.
1:06:09
Speaker 5: And you know, when we introduce this as a.
1:06:14
Speaker 10: As a group last year, Diane Hirschberger, I talked to
1:06:18
Speaker 10: her personally about it. He got an email almost targeted
1:06:22
Speaker 10: from the pharmaceutical companies within two hours after it was introduced.
1:06:26
Speaker 10: So these people, this groups that are introducing this legislation,
1:06:33
Speaker 10: they somehow got on the bad list because they're disrupting commerce.
1:06:38
Speaker 10: So this is a truly grassroots effort and compounding pharmacies
1:06:45
Speaker 10: like ourselves were nationally licensed. We're on the front lines
1:06:49
Speaker 10: for this and we want to make sure people have
1:06:51
Speaker 10: access and the freedom of access to medications, especially the ones.
1:06:56
Speaker 5: That work well.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: When we're talking about needing to reform our health care scenario,
1:07:02
Speaker 2: access to medicines and making it more cost effective, that
1:07:06
Speaker 2: is that is priority one, and that's where PDX. That's
1:07:09
Speaker 2: where pd labs rx is really leading the charge. And friends,
1:07:13
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1:07:15
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1:07:20
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1:07:23
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1:07:25
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Speaker 2: for being with us.
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Speaker 5: Well, thanks again for you all your work.
1:08:37
Speaker 2: You got it. Kelvin McCollough coming back from New York.
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Speaker 2: Don't go away.
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Speaker 1: Here, he is from New York exactly. Kevin McCollough, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us.
1:09:04
Speaker 2: It's that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com. Thankful to
1:09:07
Speaker 2: be kind of back at it after my little absence.
1:09:11
Speaker 2: Earlier this week. It was quite an experience falling on
1:09:15
Speaker 2: one's face flat on a pavement and having two teeth
1:09:19
Speaker 2: chipped completely out of your mouth and a whole bunch
1:09:21
Speaker 2: of other stuff. But God is good. My family dentist
1:09:26
Speaker 2: opened up special and I've been restored at least with
1:09:30
Speaker 2: putting teeth in my mouth and doing some other things.
1:09:33
Speaker 2: We're still kind of learning how to talk and eat
1:09:35
Speaker 2: and all that stuff again, but it's working out pretty well.
1:09:38
Speaker 2: And I couldn't have done any of it without my
1:09:40
Speaker 2: lovely bride. So grateful for her. She's been so supportive
1:09:43
Speaker 2: in such a big, big help through this time. But Friends,
1:09:46
Speaker 2: one of the things that recuperating for forty eight hours
1:09:50
Speaker 2: in my bed without really being allowed to get up
1:09:54
Speaker 2: does for me is it causes me to think. And
1:09:57
Speaker 2: I am so busy it's hard for me to sit
1:09:59
Speaker 2: still for that long period of time. But I was
1:10:02
Speaker 2: really thinking and praying over the last few days about
1:10:06
Speaker 2: how vital it is that we help every one of
1:10:09
Speaker 2: these children get to Angel Tree Camp this summer. Now
1:10:13
Speaker 2: I have children that I'm immensely proud of. They all
1:10:16
Speaker 2: know the Lord, they've all made decisions for him, they've
1:10:19
Speaker 2: all been publicly baptized and professed their faith in Him
1:10:23
Speaker 2: in a public way. But I know that part of
1:10:26
Speaker 2: what brought them to that place was being in a
1:10:29
Speaker 2: Christian camp environment for several summers in a row before
1:10:34
Speaker 2: they professed their acceptance of Jesus. And even as they
1:10:38
Speaker 2: are still of camp age now one is now a
1:10:41
Speaker 2: counselor the other two are trying to work to become one.
1:10:45
Speaker 2: There's a desire in all of their hearts to serve
1:10:48
Speaker 2: the Lord through this powerful thing that happens in the
1:10:51
Speaker 2: summertime between kids and Bible teaching and programs and games.
1:10:55
Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly why it's such a magical formula,
1:10:59
Speaker 2: but I just tell you it is. And when you
1:11:02
Speaker 2: do it in a setting where you have a lake
1:11:05
Speaker 2: and some forests and some beautiful areas to just you know,
1:11:10
Speaker 2: touch green grass and see bright stars with you bring
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Jesus and you bring the reality of God's creation into
1:11:16
Speaker 2: that picture, and you've got a context for which any
1:11:21
Speaker 2: human heart will open up a little bit more naturally.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: But when you are a child who has lived in
1:11:27
Speaker 2: a gang infested public housing, sectored, violent crime ridden family
1:11:34
Speaker 2: and neighborhood for any period of time in your life
1:11:37
Speaker 2: and you get to leave that chaos for that beauty
1:11:41
Speaker 2: of that camp. It really does have a powerful smack
1:11:45
Speaker 2: in the face, if I'm allowed to say that, more
1:11:48
Speaker 2: so than a blacktop can smack of face, God's love
1:11:51
Speaker 2: can smack us and it won't leave a bruise. Steve
1:11:55
Speaker 2: Collins is back with us from Angel Tree, and it's
1:11:58
Speaker 2: really true, Steve, like, the amount of softening that a
1:12:03
Speaker 2: camp does to a normal person is fantastic, but when
1:12:07
Speaker 2: it comes to these hardened kids that have seen really,
1:12:10
Speaker 2: really bad and hard stuff in their lives, a lot
1:12:13
Speaker 2: of it through no choice of their own, it's a
1:12:17
Speaker 2: miracle working plan, it really is.
1:12:21
Speaker 9: The transformation is nothing short of miraculous. It's incredible to
1:12:27
Speaker 9: see the change take place. I think one thing that
1:12:30
Speaker 9: really helps for a lot of our partner camps is
1:12:34
Speaker 9: that we provide free trauma informed training for all of
1:12:40
Speaker 9: our camping partners so that they can have some tools
1:12:43
Speaker 9: to work with kids who've been through trauma. And having
1:12:46
Speaker 9: an incarcery of parent is traumatic and even if everything
1:12:50
Speaker 9: else is smooth, which most of the time it is not,
1:12:54
Speaker 9: but having in acarcery of parents a traumatic experience and
1:12:57
Speaker 9: so there's training that we to all of our camping
1:13:00
Speaker 9: partners to better equip them to work with these kids.
1:13:04
Speaker 9: And there's three basic pillars of trauma and formed care.
1:13:08
Speaker 9: The first one, the very foundation, is connection, and that's
1:13:11
Speaker 9: building a connection with the kids. Now that sounds like, oh,
1:13:15
Speaker 9: that's nothing, you know, that's easy, But for kids who've
1:13:17
Speaker 9: been through trauma, there's those walls that are built up,
1:13:20
Speaker 9: and so connecting and building trusting relationships is difficult for them.
1:13:24
Speaker 9: But at camp, they play together, they eat together, they
1:13:27
Speaker 9: worship together, they pray together, and these types of things
1:13:31
Speaker 9: build those connections, build those trusting relationships, and so the kids,
1:13:36
Speaker 9: as they work their way through the camp week, begin
1:13:38
Speaker 9: to connect with their counselors and the camp leaders and
1:13:41
Speaker 9: the other kids in their cabin. And then the other
1:13:44
Speaker 9: the next pieces is felt safety. And felt safety is
1:13:48
Speaker 9: a little different than just being safe. You know, camps
1:13:51
Speaker 9: go to extreme measures to keep kids safe during their
1:13:54
Speaker 9: camp experience, but what's even more important for a kid
1:13:59
Speaker 9: who's through trauma is to feel safe. So they don't
1:14:03
Speaker 9: care about the certifications. They don't care how strong the
1:14:06
Speaker 9: rope is on the rock climbing wall or how trained
1:14:10
Speaker 9: the lifeguards are at the lake, they want to feel safe,
1:14:13
Speaker 9: and that felt safety comes through personal care and contact
1:14:18
Speaker 9: and being there for them, making sure that they're staying hydrated,
1:14:22
Speaker 9: and making sure that they get to their scheduled activities
1:14:26
Speaker 9: on time, and just having someone there watching out for them,
1:14:29
Speaker 9: guiding them and leading them builds that felt safety. And
1:14:32
Speaker 9: then the third piece is self regulation, teaching kids that
1:14:35
Speaker 9: when they feel disregulated, when they feel like their emotions
1:14:38
Speaker 9: are out of control, here are some things you can
1:14:40
Speaker 9: do to settle yourself, to calm yourself down. And it
1:14:43
Speaker 9: helps kids to learn to cope with these complex emotions
1:14:46
Speaker 9: that they're feeling, and they're able to process these things
1:14:49
Speaker 9: more effectively. And so we want our camp leaders to
1:14:51
Speaker 9: be able to effectively minister these kids right where they're at,
1:14:55
Speaker 9: and they do a really good job of that.
1:14:57
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense, and I'm so that you're
1:15:02
Speaker 2: willing to explain the details to which Prison Fellowship feels
1:15:07
Speaker 2: that it's important because these are all things that you know,
1:15:11
Speaker 2: we have to think about, and as parents particularly, we
1:15:14
Speaker 2: worry about our kids being safe, but kids that have
1:15:18
Speaker 2: incarcerated parents may not even be aware of their kids
1:15:22
Speaker 2: of their parent worrying about them in any way. So
1:15:24
Speaker 2: this is a truly amazing thing. And friends, I just
1:15:28
Speaker 2: can't express to you how important it is that the
1:15:30
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two names that we had, I've
1:15:33
Speaker 2: called it my Project one sixty two. It's we're trying
1:15:37
Speaker 2: to get all one hundred and sixty two kids to camp,
1:15:39
Speaker 2: and we've got a long way to go. We had
1:15:42
Speaker 2: some trouble with the phone lines early on, So if
1:15:44
Speaker 2: you tried to call earlier and you weren't able to
1:15:46
Speaker 2: get through, or it was overnight or some other time
1:15:49
Speaker 2: and you just weren't able to make it happen, please
1:15:53
Speaker 2: go to the website, and I'm asking you specifically to
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Speaker 2: do this now that Kevin Show dot com, the angeltree
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Speaker 2: the homepage, and give your best gift, because every two
1:16:11
Speaker 2: hundred dollars that comes in, another kid gets to go
1:16:13
Speaker 2: to camp. My challenge would be, could you give two
1:16:15
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a month for the next two months and
1:16:18
Speaker 2: help two kids go to camp. Maybe you could give
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Speaker 2: a one time gift of one thousand dollars and help
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1:16:28
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Speaker 2: All right, Kevin calla God, have you with us? Final
1:17:01
Speaker 2: few minutes? And you know, I was talking at the
1:17:04
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour about that new Gallup
1:17:07
Speaker 2: polling that shows that, you know, Americans are not just
1:17:12
Speaker 2: running away in the direction of approving all kind of
1:17:16
Speaker 2: sexual practice in terms of how they think in fact,
1:17:22
Speaker 2: so I think it's surprising that you've had a backing
1:17:26
Speaker 2: down of people saying, you know, by about ten percent
1:17:30
Speaker 2: across the country that said just a few years ago
1:17:33
Speaker 2: they thought that gay marriage was right, was the right thing,
1:17:38
Speaker 2: and about ten percent less today say that than did
1:17:42
Speaker 2: back in the early twenty teens, which is not I mean,
1:17:48
Speaker 2: there's a clear majority of Americans that seem to still
1:17:50
Speaker 2: say they want legal same sex marriage to be an option,
1:17:55
Speaker 2: but the thrust behind saying we've got to have it
1:18:00
Speaker 2: at all costs seems to be diminishing some And I
1:18:03
Speaker 2: said at the top that I think there's some indicators
1:18:08
Speaker 2: that have gone like I think that the I just
1:18:10
Speaker 2: had this discussion with my son yesterday, the advocates for
1:18:15
Speaker 2: different groups because everything's intersectional now, right, So if you're
1:18:20
Speaker 2: if you're a woman, and you're black, and you're gay,
1:18:23
Speaker 2: then you should have three other reasons to be hired
1:18:28
Speaker 2: above just a white male, that's you know. And if
1:18:31
Speaker 2: you're if you're not a if you're not a Christian,
1:18:34
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a Muslim or something else, and
1:18:36
Speaker 2: you have all these different things. That's what intersectionality has
1:18:39
Speaker 2: brought the US. It's not merit, it's not based on
1:18:43
Speaker 2: actual facts US. It got to the point where it
1:18:47
Speaker 2: became all about the symbol. And actually, I think that
1:18:50
Speaker 2: just did everybody a disservice. I think you should get
1:18:54
Speaker 2: hired because you're the best one for the job. So
1:18:59
Speaker 2: anyway that I'm digressing, But my son was asking, he said, Dad,
1:19:05
Speaker 2: don't you see a similarity between what some of these
1:19:07
Speaker 2: groups are saying in civil rights groups? And I said, yeah,
1:19:10
Speaker 2: I actually I've seen that for a while. I've seen
1:19:13
Speaker 2: the sexual practice advocates, the lgbtqs, the transgenders, those groups.
1:19:23
Speaker 2: I've seen those groups try to adopt the language of
1:19:27
Speaker 2: civil rights groups, and I don't think that it's worked
1:19:29
Speaker 2: well for either group. And I think the civil rights
1:19:31
Speaker 2: groups on some level have been very displeased that they're
1:19:35
Speaker 2: very legitimate discussion about race and ethnicity and origin and
1:19:42
Speaker 2: being born a certain way cannot be disputed. What I
1:19:47
Speaker 2: do in the bedroom is based on how I was born.
1:19:50
Speaker 2: Thing doesn't hold water. And I think you're starting to
1:19:54
Speaker 2: see that because groups continue to try to use it
1:19:57
Speaker 2: for an ever broadening definition of what they've been born as.
1:20:02
Speaker 2: And the transgender thing is the is the big one
1:20:06
Speaker 2: right now, and I think that's why you have a
1:20:08
Speaker 2: lot of gay lesbian groups that are opposing the transgender
1:20:11
Speaker 2: ideology and say, no, this isn't, this isn't. They're not
1:20:15
Speaker 2: the same as us. But in employees across the California
1:20:18
Speaker 2: State University system came back from lunch on March sixth
1:20:22
Speaker 2: announcing that their employer was suing the Trump Department of Education.
1:20:26
Speaker 2: It was happening because San Jose State University had a
1:20:30
Speaker 2: transgender volleyball player on its women's team for three years
1:20:33
Speaker 2: allegedly didn't tell multiple female teammates that the player was
1:20:38
Speaker 2: actually male, and then refused to accept the US Department
1:20:40
Speaker 2: of Education findings that determined that the school violated Title nine,
1:20:44
Speaker 2: which they did. When you put a dude on a
1:20:47
Speaker 2: women's team, especially if it's scholarship based, you just did
1:20:52
Speaker 2: the wrong thing. Now Fox News has obtained the Education
1:20:56
Speaker 2: Department's written findings of the Title nine investigation, and most
1:21:00
Speaker 2: individuals referenced in the findings are going to be held accountable.
1:21:03
Speaker 2: But they believe that the volleyball head coach Todd Crass,
1:21:07
Speaker 2: assistant coach Melissa Batty, schmooze, former player Blair Fleming, the
1:21:13
Speaker 2: transgender former player Brooks Slusser are all going to be sued.
1:21:18
Speaker 2: And this scandal has reached a boiling point and people
1:21:21
Speaker 2: are they're fed up. They've they've gone over they've gone
1:21:23
Speaker 2: over the top with it, and they don't want anymore.
1:21:27
Speaker 2: Kevin mccalloch, I'll see it