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Russell Brand Allegations, Tom Girardi’s Competency and Real Housewives’ Futures with Zack Peter · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 4: show is now back on hold. She has decided not
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  Speaker 4: to bring the Drew Barrymore show back and be a
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote scab and break the picket lines. Now, what
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  Speaker 4: was interesting over the weekend is, you know, Guy Branum,
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  Speaker 4: who was on my show Thursday, he explained it very well.
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  Speaker 4: why it was important. A lot of people that aren't
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  Speaker 4: in the business don't know. And even people who are
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  Speaker 4: in the business didn't really understand why was it wrong
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  Speaker 4: for her to do it? How did these other shows
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  Speaker 4: do it and not get the criticism? And he explained
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  Speaker 4: it really well. So go back to that show if
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  Speaker 4: you want to hear just a really intelligent way of
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  Speaker 4: explaining it. But she was getting a lot of criticism
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  Speaker 4: from myself and Guy Branum as well. And it's hard,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Ross Matthews is her co-host or on a
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  Speaker 4: lot with her. He's a friend of mine. But I
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  Speaker 4: didn't think it was a good idea that the show
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  Speaker 4: went back. And I didn't think she was somebody that
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  Speaker 4: needed it. You know, she has Garnier hair and she
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  Speaker 4: has furniture and she has, you know, these really cute
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  Speaker 4: like toaster ovens and air fryers and stuff that you
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  Speaker 4: could buy in the Drew Barrymore kitchen line at Walmart.
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  Speaker 4: Like this isn't her only stream of income. She isn't this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, single mother that has to do the show.
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  Speaker 4: And then, of course, but what about my the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the people that work on the show? But it's
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  Speaker 4: about the bigger picture. The bigger picture will be good
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  Speaker 4: if we can just hold off, get this strike resolved,
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  Speaker 4: and everybody can go back to work.
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  Speaker 2: And it wasn't looking good for her.
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  Speaker 4: But then she went and did that apology, not apology
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  Speaker 4: video over the weekend in which she then pulled.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of makeup.
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  Speaker 4: She found a part of her house that looked very subtle,
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  Speaker 4: much like Ashton.
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  Speaker 2: And Mila did.
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  Speaker 4: They did it against a wood like a plain wood
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  Speaker 4: wall when they talked about their thing, which I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to get to in a second.
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  Speaker 2: So you always pick like kind of a sad background.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have a lot of makeup.
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  Speaker 4: But she had probably read so many comments and was
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  Speaker 4: just like, no, I'm going to double down and say
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  Speaker 4: why I'm doing this. And she's like, and I've been
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  Speaker 4: through a lot. I've been through ups and downs. And
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  Speaker 4: this will just be another one of those times. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't had an easy life. And it wasn't a great speech.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't like she was really explaining why she was
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  Speaker 4: doing it. She was trying to say, I'm getting all
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  Speaker 4: this shit and it sucks. But she's like, but I've never,
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  Speaker 4: ever intended to hurt anyone. I don't think anybody really goes,
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  Speaker 4: you know what? I think this is going to hurt
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people. And I'm pretty thrilled about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, most of the times when you hurt somebody,
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  Speaker 4: it really wasn't your intention, especially when it's something like
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  Speaker 4: this in entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: So the comments were awful. They're like, Drew, stop. This
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  Speaker 2: is wrong.
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  Speaker 4: You're not making it any better. And she kept saying,
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  Speaker 4: this is not a PR team. I don't have a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of people.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she really just did this in her kitchen by
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  Speaker 4: herself with no help. And that's why it wasn't great.
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  Speaker 4: She took it down within, I don't know, a couple hours.
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  Speaker 4: And then yesterday announced, no, I heard the backlash. I
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  Speaker 4: am not going to go forward with the show, which
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  Speaker 4: is the right thing to do. So, um, listen, I,
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  Speaker 4: I've been hit with a lot of criticism and, and
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  Speaker 4: you want to defend yourself and you want to explain
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  Speaker 4: yourself and you're like, I'm just going to do a video.
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  Speaker 4: But the times that I've thought about doing it, thank
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  Speaker 4: God I didn't post it because I literally, I'm smart
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  Speaker 4: enough to realize how things can be picked apart. And
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  Speaker 4: also I, all I, during what I was going through
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, I did do one where
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this isn't true.
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  Speaker 2: And let me explain this, this and this. And I
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  Speaker 2: did it.
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  Speaker 4: And I had this hat on because I had no
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  Speaker 4: makeup on. And I had this hat on and these glasses.
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  Speaker 4: And thank God I recorded it and just held it
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  Speaker 4: for a second. And then I imagined all the funny
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  Speaker 4: creators that I probably, you know, that I follow and
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  Speaker 4: that I'd probably see mocking the apology video, wearing a
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  Speaker 4: similar hat, And being like, woohoo! And saying, oh, now she's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, spiraling.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's losing it.
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  Speaker 4: So it's interesting because I think a couple years ago,
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  Speaker 4: the way to do it was to immediately get out
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  Speaker 4: that apology video with just very minimal makeup. Like just
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  Speaker 4: maybe just like a tinted moisturizer and like a gray t-shirt.
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  Speaker 4: And now I feel like people are, you know, are
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  Speaker 4: able to see that too. And that can be a
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  Speaker 4: mistake as well, which I'm going to get into. So
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  Speaker 4: good for her. Hopefully this will end soon and the
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  Speaker 4: show will be back.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, there we go. Bethany Frankel. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: She got herself in a pickle as well. This is
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  Speaker 4: the Zen Blonde brought up a really great point. Let
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  Speaker 4: me tell you what happened with Bethany Frankel. As you know,
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  Speaker 4: Bethany Frankel in the last couple of years has done.
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  Speaker 2: These beauty reviews.
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  Speaker 4: So she shows up at TJ Maxx and films herself
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  Speaker 4: being like, So I'm at TJ Maxx and you know what?
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  Speaker 2: There's this really nice woman. She's my friend.
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  Speaker 4: She always compliments me on all the makeup that I
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  Speaker 4: buy here. But you know, sometimes I just use like
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of it. Like I just use some
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  Speaker 4: of the gloss or some of the makeup. And then
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what? I really don't want this color.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't want this color, but this color might
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  Speaker 2: work on someone with, you know, different skin color than
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  Speaker 2: mine or whatever. And they probably can't afford it because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they just, they work at TJ Maxx.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So what I do is I go And I make
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  Speaker 2: it a big bag like this. And then I go
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  Speaker 2: to my friend who works here at TJ. And she's
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  Speaker 2: got the camera and she's walking through. And she's like, hi.
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  Speaker 2: There's my friend. There's my friend. What's your name? And
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  Speaker 2: the woman's like, Consuela. Hello. And she's like, yeah, Consuela.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I don't want any of this makeup that I
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  Speaker 2: bought here. But I know that you were like envious
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  Speaker 2: when you were ringing me up. So I want to
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  Speaker 2: give this to you. And then. The woman is like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I can't take things. That's like a bribe. I work
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  Speaker 2: for a big corporation. And she's like, what? No, you
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  Speaker 2: should be able to take it. You should be able
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  Speaker 2: to take it. I will talk to them.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Bethany Frankel. I'm the number one housewife that ever lived.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the greatest. I'm helping people all over the world
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  Speaker 4: with Be Strong. I'm doing what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing reality reckoning.
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  Speaker 4: I am exposing the fact that Bravo has completely exploited
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  Speaker 4: people by putting cameras in their faces.
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand? Do you understand?
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  Speaker 4: I can make it okay that you can take this bag.
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  Speaker 4: of used makeup that I don't want. I'm gonna make
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  Speaker 4: sure you can take it right now. You can take it.
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  Speaker 4: I know they'll listen to me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: She posts that.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the first girl I saw was like,
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  Speaker 4: let me tell you why this is wrong. A, she
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  Speaker 4: didn't know the woman's name. The biggest thing I have
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  Speaker 4: a problem with, and I've talked about it, I talked
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  Speaker 4: about it with Brandy and Julie, I don't like when
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  Speaker 4: people do acts of kindness and shove a camera in
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  Speaker 4: someone's face and kind of exposes that you probably need
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  Speaker 4: this act of kindness because you're not living as well
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  Speaker 4: as I am. I don't know why you can't just
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  Speaker 4: do the act of kindness and maybe talk about it
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  Speaker 4: after and say, hey, you know what I did today
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  Speaker 4: and it was fucking awesome? I went to Walmart and
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  Speaker 4: I said, hey, what's on.
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  Speaker 2: Layaway right now? Oh, we've got three things from this
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  Speaker 2: woman on layaway. You know what? I'm going to pay
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  Speaker 2: that off. Will you please let her know that I
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  Speaker 2: paid off her layaway? I don't know who she is.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: We don't show the woman. That's a cool thing that
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  Speaker 4: people can do. Imagine how great that woman will feel
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  Speaker 4: when she comes in and she thinks she owes $ 80
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  Speaker 4: and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Been paid off or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: There's things that you could do that you don't have
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  Speaker 4: to shove a camera in someone's face, but that's not
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  Speaker 4: how she works. So she got a lot of criticism
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  Speaker 4: for that. And then she doubled down and did another interview.
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  Speaker 4: Not another interview. She did another video where she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: so apparently I'm getting canceled because people don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want a bag of perfectly good makeup. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: get a bunch of free makeup and I get a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of different shades and I don't need three concealers.
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  Speaker 2: I only need one concealer in my shade. So you
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  Speaker 2: know what I do? I separate them.
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  Speaker 4: So like each person gets like a concealer. I like
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  Speaker 4: a really great moisturizer. And I give them out to
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  Speaker 4: people that I filmed. And apparently that makes me look like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like I'm the white savior or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really get it. I don't know why I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing it. She still doesn't get it.
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  Speaker 4: And in one of the comments, someone said, why would
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  Speaker 4: you think that someone working at TJ Maxx would even
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  Speaker 4: want used makeup that's open and not in their package?
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  Speaker 2: And stuff?
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  Speaker 4: And she's like, Bethany wrote, because she works at TJ Maxx. Again,
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  Speaker 4: you don't know anyone's situation. You don't know if someone
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  Speaker 4: is doing that so they can get out of the
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  Speaker 4: house as retired. Still, that doesn't mean they want your
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  Speaker 4: used makeup. And again, don't put it on camera. That's
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  Speaker 4: my biggest thing. Don't put it on camera. um I've
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  Speaker 4: said it over and over again I don't like it
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  Speaker 4: when people do it with their kids um I just
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  Speaker 4: saw a really interesting um.
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  Speaker 2: I really saw a really interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Uh TikTok of how this girl played two parts and
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  Speaker 4: she's acting like she's like a maybe a 16 year
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  Speaker 4: old child and somebody walks up to her and is
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  Speaker 4: like oh my god I loved your family's vlog I
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  Speaker 4: remember when your mom used to show you shitting in
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  Speaker 4: the corner because you were so scared, but you still
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  Speaker 4: had a diaper on.
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  Speaker 2: That was so cute. How's your brother?
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: Did he ever recover from that skin issue.
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  Speaker 2: That he had? He had eczema, right? And then what
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  Speaker 2: is going on?
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  Speaker 4: I know that you got your period. Did you figure
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  Speaker 4: out how to use the tampon yet?
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  Speaker 2: And it's a sketch. It's not real.
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  Speaker 4: But this is what is going to be happening to
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  Speaker 4: people that have exposed their kids like this.
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  Speaker 2: And I really... It's weird.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, we watch it and I just think
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  Speaker 4: we've got to see how fucking wrong this is. What
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  Speaker 4: we're doing to kids and what we're doing to people,
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  Speaker 4: unsuspecting people that work at places, not asking for their permission.
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  Speaker 4: And the one thing that the Zen Blonde said in this,
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  Speaker 4: she goes, not the queen of reality reckoning, meaning Bethany,
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  Speaker 4: filming innocent retail employees without their consent.
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  Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of her trying.
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  Speaker 4: To do this movement of reality reckoning saying, my God,
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  Speaker 4: look at how these people have been abused by Bravo.
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  Speaker 4: You know, these people sign up for the reality show.
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  Speaker 4: They've seen the reality show. They sign contracts. They can
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  Speaker 4: have lawyers look at contracts.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Do they sometimes look like an asshole.
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  Speaker 4: When they drink and dance, you know, dance to the
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  Speaker 4: Tres Amigas or whatever or get mad at somebody or
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  Speaker 4: slip and fall?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens. But they're not just working their retail job.
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  Speaker 4: And you then show them to your 1.5 million followers.
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  Speaker 4: And you still don't get it. So this makeup, I
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  Speaker 4: am not giving it to anyone. It's in this bag
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  Speaker 4: because it is stuff I don't like. But then I think, well,
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  Speaker 4: I might want it. So it's in another drawer.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like a badger. Just like, hi. Just like
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  Speaker 2: a dirty makeup brush. Like, it is insane.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 2: Not a great time for her.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about Sister Wives. Okay, so it's so, I've
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  Speaker 4: been watching it. You know I love it. This is
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  Speaker 4: about Cody and his four wives. And I just want
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: to talk about a couple things. Mary is hopefully now
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  Speaker 4: leaving too. Right now he's stuck with just Robin. Robin's
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  Speaker 4: stuck with just him. But one of the things that's
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  Speaker 4: crazy is how awful, I've said before, they've been on
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  Speaker 4: this show for 17 years. And Janelle, wife number two,
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  Speaker 4: is now living in a really tiny average apartment that's
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  Speaker 4: jam-packed with stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And Christine, who also left.
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  Speaker 4: What's nice is they have a really nice friendship and
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  Speaker 4: all their kids get along. And they're kind of, like, they're, like,
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  Speaker 4: breaking off to their own, like, family, which is really nice.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, they're talking there and she, Janelle, is just saying, like,
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  Speaker 4: I have, you know, financially I got fucked because... They
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  Speaker 4: took all the money and Robin bought a house. So
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  Speaker 4: now Robin, who's the only legal wife, owns the house
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  Speaker 4: with Cody. And Janelle is renting and I guess just
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  Speaker 4: living off of the money she gets from sister wives.
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  Speaker 4: And who knows how much longer that's going to go on,
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  Speaker 4: though I hope it never ends. Because once they're really
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  Speaker 4: not a family, even though we suspected they were unhappy
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  Speaker 4: all this time, now we're, you know, what are we
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  Speaker 4: going to be watching? What's interesting is they talk about
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  Speaker 4: when we went public, that their family was so much
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  Speaker 4: better when the kids were all little and they all
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  Speaker 4: raised the kids together because it takes a village. I
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  Speaker 4: think they really liked having the extra help of all
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  Speaker 4: the other moms and doing these things together and the
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  Speaker 4: kids all playing and bonding together. And that was all
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  Speaker 4: before they went on camera on TLC and how since then,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the cracks in the relationship and just growing
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  Speaker 4: up and people moving on and him just spending so
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  Speaker 4: much more.
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  Speaker 2: Time with Robin.
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  Speaker 4: And Robin's like, look, I guess he spent more time
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  Speaker 4: at my house, but, and then he's like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: spent more time at Robin's house because she had an
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  Speaker 4: office for me and she had a place for me
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  Speaker 4: to park my car in the garage and the other
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  Speaker 4: girls didn't really make room for him.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're a sister wife, the way, if you
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  Speaker 4: really want him around more, all you have to do
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  Speaker 4: is like get the softest couch, get him a lazy boy,
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  Speaker 4: make sure that his food is there. You probably have
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  Speaker 4: to be the best cook and you have to have
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  Speaker 4: like the nicest bed or whatever you know, the quietest room.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you get the blackout blinds. Like you make it
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  Speaker 4: that his, that's where he wants to sleep the most.
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  Speaker 4: And if you don't want him coming around, but you
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  Speaker 4: still like hanging out with your sister wife, then yeah,
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  Speaker 4: get like, don't have very uncomfortable furniture, have like the
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  Speaker 4: shittiest TV, have the, like the crappiest food, never good food.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I just thought that would.
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  Speaker 4: Be, I mean, I don't think anything this even has
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  Speaker 4: to do with being good in the sack or not.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, Who had the nicest home and who
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  Speaker 4: made it most pleasant for when I got there? So
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting. And I always think it's
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  Speaker 4: really weird that they're always filming outside. For a while
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  Speaker 4: it was because of COVID. Now I think it's because,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: then I thought it was because the girls are hoarders
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: and they don't want, especially Robin, to show all their
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: crap in the house. Now I think they do it
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: outside because the cameramen are like, we just don't want
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: to set up lights. We don't want to set up lights.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: We don't want to clear an area. Let's just, hey,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: let's just park it outside. I'll wear a parka and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: let's just film these two women bitching about Cody and
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: how weird he is and how neither of them really
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: want to be around him anyway.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So there you go with that. Ashton Kutcher, a little
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: catch up on Ashton Kutcher.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: He has, you know, as you know, he did the
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: letters with Mila supporting Danny Masterson before he went to prison,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: hoping to give a more lenient Sentence got a lot
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: of criticism for that. And then but now he has
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: stepped down from his role at this. He is stepping
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: down from the positions on Thorn, which is an anti-child
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: sex abuse organization that he started with his ex-wife, Demi Moore,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: back in 2012. He stepped down from it. He said
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: victims of sexual abuse have been historically silenced. And the
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: character statement I submitted is yet another painful instance of
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: questioning victims who are brave enough to share their experiences.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: So he spent a couple days. He regretted writing the letter.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: He regretted doing the video, trying to look like he
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: was poor and sad. And that's why people and myself,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: they should take my advice, should think about just saying
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: yes when someone requests that they share make a statement,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: or do a video about something that they don't have
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: full knowledge of. Being a public figure, you sometimes want
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: to say, you know what? I don't know enough about that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Let me spend more time looking on it. In the meantime,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: is there another way I could help you? Could I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: maybe promote your telethon or whatever? But I'm just not
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: comfortable doing that video. There's things you can do for people.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: So he stepped down from that, which is unfortunate because
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: he probably was doing good work for it, but it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: probably the right thing that he steps down.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And other.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Of sponsorships that he has, they have stayed silent. So
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: we don't know if he's going to lose anything on that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: The other question is, will Scientology get rid of Danny Masterson?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Will they expel him from it? I don't know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's probably not a lot of use to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: them when he goes and does 30 years in prison.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So probably they will.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: They'll do the PR movement. Oh, the PR statement. Oh,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: now we just don't want anything to do with Danny Masterson,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: even though They were the one that were such a
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: big part of this case in silencing the victims. But watch,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: they'll be like, no, we want nothing to do with
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: him now, now that he's in prison.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Just like Jen Shah, no one wants anything to do with.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Jen Shah when she can't give them good TV, when
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: she can't invite them to a fancy dinner in Vegas.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: You think they're visiting her in prison?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: No, they're not.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: But she's hanging out with Elizabeth Holmes, so that's okay.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Russell Brand came out the night before this explosive article
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: came out about how he has sexually assaulted over four women,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: three of which are remaining anonymous. But the night before
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it came out, he did a statement to his millions
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: of followers saying like, this isn't true. And I think
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: they're coming after me because I'm such a trailblazer in
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: what I discuss. And this is like, you know, just
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: to silence me. So a lot of people were talking
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: about that first and they're like, but wait, where is this?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: So now we know more about the women that have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: come forward. And it's a really, really disturbing stories. As
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: you know, he was married to Katy Perry for a
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: few years and there's, and we never knew why they
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: got divorced, but they did get divorced after 14 months.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: And Katy did say in an interview that now people
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: are kind of exploring. She did say back in 2013,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: she did an interview with Vogue and she said about
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: her marriage that she had a controlling ex-husband and it
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: was a really hurtful marriage. And she also said that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: she found out the truth about the comedian and that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: why she left. But she never said what the truth was.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: So people wonder, had she heard about these things? Because
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: now we're finding out that Russell Brand's TV execs on
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: a show he had allegedly considered removing any female staffers
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: so that they wouldn't be assaulted by him.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: This is from the New York Post.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: So in this investigation that has been going on, he's
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: been accused of rape and sexual abuse between 2006 and 2013.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: The claims are part of a joint investigation by the
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Times of London and Channel 4 dispatches, and Brand has
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: denied these allegations. But all of this is coming up.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: One of the victims was only 16 at the time.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: which is legal consent, I guess, in England. But he
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: was 31 and he called her the child. And then
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: there's text messages from one of the assault victims named Nadia,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: in which he was like, oh, wrote her at three
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: in the three third in the morning, definitely referring to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: what went on and saying that was horrible of me
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and it was selfish.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: She says she was assaulted.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: And so that does kind of make a lot of
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: sense that then he would send that text and say that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: So It's all very bad for him, but excellent that
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: these women are brave enough to come out, and we'll
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: see what happens with that. Last story before I bring
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: out our guest. Hugh Jackman and his wife have broken
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: up after 27 years of marriage. People are always very
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: surprised when a couple that's been married that long get divorced,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: but it happens. Kyle and Mauricio are somewhat I guess,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: are separated. We talk more about that in the interview. But,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you know, whether it's seven years or 27 years, people
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: live long and sometimes they don't want to live with you.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Now, you guys, for my very fun interview, we get
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: into it. Lots of fun gossip with Zach Peter. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: have a fun guest who's very knowledgeable in the housewife
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and pop culture world. Please welcome for the first time,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Zach Peter from No Filter with Zach Peter.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Hello. Good to see you again.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Good to see you, Heather. Thank you for having me.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: And you reminded me of how we originally met so
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: long ago.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I used to work for Jenny McCarthy's Foundation, helping kids
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: with autism. You obviously did a lot of different fundraising
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: events for us. I know you and Josh Wolf, the
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: whole crew, used to come out and do comedy shows
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to raise money for Jenny's Foundation. So we had met.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think it was a San Francisco event.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: San Francisco. There was one at the Laugh Factory.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think I put all that together, but
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I always knew that you looked familiar and everything. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: then when you put it together, now I see you
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: at the event from 10 years ago. But obviously, you
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: do great work in this field, as if we're in
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a medical profession. And let's get into it, because you
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: just came from Erika Jayne's show, which is at.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: The Hard Rock.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Where is it at? House of Blues.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: House of Blues. House of Blues. Did you go opening night?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I went opening night and Friday and Saturday.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And give us the scoop.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know everyone's shading it. I know Sutton
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: threw a little shade too, but like I thought the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: show was great. We had such a blast. So we
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: went Friday night, which was press night. So I brought
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: a couple of my boys out. We did a whole
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Vegas trip. Good. And so we did Friday night, which
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: was just, you know, we came to see the show.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And then I got a table for Saturday night because
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I wanted to come and support. But, I mean, the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: show was good. She did, you know, she did her
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: material girl coming on out. And then she did a
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: lot of her hits.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It's expensive to be me.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And her new lip gloss song. Have you heard lip gloss? No.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Or drip drop.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Drip drop. You have to listen to it. It's a bop.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: It's the new expensive.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And how many dancers, how many people are in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: show total approximately for the show?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: She has these three, like, really hot dudes that are
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: kind of, like, the main attraction outside of her. Like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: women will love it and gay men will love it
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: because the men are, like, out there grinding on the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: stripper pole with her. Okay. And then she has a
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: couple of other dancers that are in and out throughout
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And how long is the show?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: It's about two hours. Oh, that's pretty decent. And she
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: actually sings in a lot of it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if she sings throughout the whole thing,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: but she does some acapella.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: You mean you don't think it's just the singing over
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: it while she's dancing?
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: No.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I think it might be a little bit of both,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: but there are some moments where she really does sing
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in her actual voice.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Listen, I've come out to do stand-up and I've moved
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: around a little to a dance and I'm fucking out
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: of breath for the first five minutes of a joke.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I never understood how people expected major stars to be
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: dropping it hot and everything and coming up and still
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: being able to belt. I know a lot of stars
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: when they perform and dance are singing like along with the.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Track or whatever. Um, but that's, that's cool. So now
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I think they only now, how much weight do you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: think she's lost?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. I mean, at least like 20 pounds,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: she's tiny, but I mean, seeing her on stage with
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: her body looking so banging being what she's now 50,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: like that is insane that she is just like, out
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: there dancing and she's in her skimpy little outfits. Like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I think at one point we may have
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: gotten a little cooch. Like she was just out there
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: like fully patting the puss. And as a gay man,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I was like a little turning on the other side.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, Erica, meet me backstage.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I think, um, the car is beautiful. Where did you
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: end up going for it?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: What's it called?
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: There's an accent on the E. Do you mean.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Lift?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, Kimmage. No.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: what would you do if it was given back?
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: even if it shakes.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: You know, I've interviewed her. I know her whole life
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: story very well.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: And how she started doing this was that she was
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: bored being the rich wife and shopping. And she got
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: a postcard to go to this other colleague of his,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: of Tom's wife's cabaret show. And it was by a
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: musical director of somebody she knew back in the day
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: when she was performing. So she like got in touch
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: with him and he's like, we can do the same
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: thing for you. And that's when she was, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: having fun and doing this.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it wasn't profitable. We know it cost a
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: lot from the Amex bills and stuff to have this career.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Then she got on Housewives.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: And I was, when the scandals happened with her husband,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, will the gays and people ever come
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: in droves and cheer her on because she had the
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: stink on her?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Was she involved? Did she know? Now I feel more
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and more people are like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: And I never really knew for sure. I just always
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: sort of explored it. You know, chances are.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: She was the wife that was told, spend carte blanche.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: She did.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: For the last 10 years, they probably weren't boning. She
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: knew he had mistresses. People knew he had mistresses. People
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: he had lunch with at the Morton's or whatever it was.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: All this stuff.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: And....
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So I really.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Applaud her for putting this together and going for it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And the fact that the tickets are inexpensive.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Welcome to selling tickets, people.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: It is not easy. But the tickets that people are
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: talking about are standing room tickets. They're not like the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: tables or the seats at the house. It's literally to
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: just stand to get into the door and stand by
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the bar, which the venue is going to want to
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: bring people in because they're going to buy from the bar.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: They're going to buy food.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And I say and I was like, that's great. Great
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: If you're curious and you're in Vegas and you guys
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: are having a bachelorette party and you don't have.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Tickets to go to anything else? How great that you
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: can go for seven bucks. Who the fuck cares?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I do wonder, though, when she was doing it, because
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: being someone that, you know, I travel and I perform
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: and have for a long time.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And, you know, you do get.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Strategic about where to go and how big of a
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: venue and how many nights you can do because you
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: want it to sell out and everything. In my opinion,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I do think this might have been too many nights,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: too close to BravoCon in the same city.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And also, I think it also goes to show that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: as big as we.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Think the BravoCon world is, nobody is going to see
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Erika Jayne that isn't familiar with Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: no one's sitting in their hotel room looking at one
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: of those magazines.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: And being like, oh, there's a tiger show. Or, oh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: let's see this magician just because we feel like seeing
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a magician. Or Barry Manilow or whatever. The only people
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: going to that, otherwise they'll go to a more traditional
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Vegas show.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I will say, I was surprised that it was
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: as full as it was opening weekend considering Beyonce was
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: performing across the street. So we had a lot of
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the Beyonce audience there. I mean, from what I've seen,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the room is still consistently full. Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I think, like, the tickets that everybody was talking about were, like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: for the tickets in, like, December, though.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So, I mean.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: People are always looking for something. But, like, you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: she's always been nice to me.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And whatever happens... And at the beginning, I felt
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: like when the stuff came out about the sham divorce, like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I was never, like, an Erica Stan.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, maybe, like, this does look a
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: little fishy. Like, what is this? And then once you actually,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: you know, put on your thinking cap and do a
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: little critical thinking, you're like, okay, she's trophy wife number three. Like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: how much is Tom Girardi coming home and... While they're
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: out eating and, you know, having their steak dinner, he's like, yeah, babe,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: this is paid for by the orphans and widows. Like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: he's just not disclosing any of that information. Like, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: think the longer they were married, the more their relationship
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: kind of started to sever.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: And we did see how when she would try to
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: get involved in the conversation, there's on him being like
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: that dick that's.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Like, let me finish Erica. You know, so like, I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: believe when she was like, what's up with all these
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: lawsuits tab? He'd be like, Erica, stay out of it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: It's all fine. It was just, you know, no, no. Like,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that's why I think she was like, all right.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Like, well, I don't want to read a bunch of
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: papers either.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: And why would you ask questions? He's a powerful lawyer
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: in Los Angeles.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: And also when she always said, well, I would have
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: a prenup. He's going to destroy me anyway if I
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: ever try to leave.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Like, she knew that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: She knew that she was sleeping with the devil.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And that's why she wanted to have this whole other
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: life with her gay dancers and fun because she was
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: done being– The board chick shopping and going in Europe.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And she was like, go take your mistress. Like, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: don't care. I'm glad I don't have to like hop
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: on the penguin. I don't care.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: She's over it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the competency hearing.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: So he had his competency hearing and this has been
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: so juicy. So just to update you guys, his defense
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: basically is. His people are like, he's not competent. He
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: has Alzheimer's, dementia, all this stuff from a combination of
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: just being old, but also when he got in the
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: car accident in the.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Snow or whatever that story was.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: But there's moments where he seems very competent, one being
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: that he can sit there for eight hours and not
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: get tired or not fall asleep or not get agitated,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: like maybe someone that is struggling with competency.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And the other part was the fuck you. Who did
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he say fuck you to?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: To the prosecutor. But I think he said it like subtly.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And then the prosecution was like, Your Honor, we would
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: like the record to reflect that he just said fuck
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: you to me. And then everybody in court was like, whoa.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Because I don't think he blurted it out. I think
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: it was like a little jab that he was trying
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to throw under the table.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: And it does seem like, you know, the way he
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: was showing up in court with the disheveled, sweater.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: And the food on it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He was wearing slippers. And like, they didn't take his,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: his clothes, you know?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And I even, or even if they did go to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: TJ Maxx and buy him a fitted blazer, like, come on.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: But even if he was losing it, he has somebody
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that's taking care of him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I think, but yes, but even if he was losing
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: it and they were like, Tom, you know, cause I
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: have friends and I know people in, in my life too,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that started to lose it as they age.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And you could say like, um, Mr.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Garnier, we're going to court today. And he'd be like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: get me my best gray suit. Like, even if he
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: was out of it, he wouldn't be in this scruffy thing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: But does it behoove Erica, and I don't know the
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: answer to that, so let me get your opinion, for
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: him to be incompetent or to be competent and lying
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: about being incompetent?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's easier for her to believe that he's incompetent.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Because if he's not truly incompetent and he's playing everybody...
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Then he's playing her as well. And I think the
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: deception and the betrayal is a lot deeper. So I
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: think it's easier to just believe he really has Alzheimer's.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: He really has dementia. He's really lost it. And he
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't remember what he did to me. And that's why
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: he's able to keep up.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: But legally, I think it's better that he's lying about
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: being incompetent.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: For her. Yes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Because then it's like, no one should believe anything he
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: said at all, including myself.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I was just another thing that he collected.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: And I was just another thing to make himself look good.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: And I, yeah, that's what I think.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I agree with it from the legal perspective, but I
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: think people also forget that, like, she was still married
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: to him. And he did kind of save her and
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: give her a life that she didn't have prior that
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I think there's this weird, like, maybe it's trauma bonding
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: or something, but I think there is, like, a weird
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: love that she does still have for him that I
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: don't even think she can... go to that place because
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like the betrayal, like think about it. Your
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: whole life was spent on the backs of orphans and widows.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there are many other, you know, victims
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: and cases involved, but it's just like when that's what
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: your life has become is like, I had this entire
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: career and, you know, now I'm attached to this whole
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: embezzlement scandal. Like it's awful to even think about.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: You know what I predicted that did not come true,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: which says something about the ladies of Beverly Hills in
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: a good way is I, when I interviewed her, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: was surprised that she didn't, that her child was being
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: raised by the dad on the East Coast.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Now, the proof is in the pudding. They have a
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: wonderful relationship today. Right. And also, I wouldn't like it
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: if she was criticized for that because that's very unfair
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to women and the standards of people and women. And obviously,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the son turned out wonderful. You know, like he's a cop.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: He's got a great relationship with both parents, blah, blah, blah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: But I was always like, as awful as Housewives can be,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: if she, before this, was going to get her bad,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: you know, cut at it, I thought for sure there'd
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: be a moment, maybe if, you know who it would
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: have come from? Is if she'd crossed Lisa Renna, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: her and Lisa Renna were always close. But if she
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: would have crossed Lisa Renna, I believe that's something Lisa
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Renna would have dropped subtly. Like, oh, well, you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: when you're not raising, when you aren't raising your kids
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: or something like that. But I'm glad that they never did.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: And I think what happened was she did get with
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Tom Girardi, and she was a good enough mother to
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: know that, like, the dad, he's doing great there, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: we also have the money that I can visit him
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: as much as I want. He can come out here
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: as much as he wants. And I think Tom was
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: also like, hey, I'm not going to Little League games.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to play daddy to your kid. But, like,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: he can go to the best schools, whatever.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But here's the Amex.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was one thing, like, That she has
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: sort of kept private, which she should. Why not?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she wants to protect her son as
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: much as possible, which I understand. I also don't think
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: he cares to be involved in it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, my mom can go pat the puss. Like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'm good. I'll be proud of her from over here.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like 30 by now.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Okay. Dancing with the Stars. Speaking of pat the puss.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: So we know we have Mauricio. Did you see he
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: has new teeth?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: He's another one bites.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: New teeth, new abs.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Another one bites the dust. No pun intended. Looking trimming
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and everything. Feeling thirsty.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the mistress is happy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: According, what?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I said I'm sure his mistress is happy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Now, what do you know about all the rumors? What
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: have you heard about the years of him? I've heard
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: things of all persuasion.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: And all types along the lines. spectrum of sexuality, um,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: enjoying Mr.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Mauricio.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Listen, I think he's, you know, a very primal man.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Very primal man. And that loves what primal men love,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: you know, and he indulges in whatever floats the boat
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: for the night.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So we are. Okay.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: So meanwhile, while he's twirling around in the dance studio
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: with his, um, dancing partner, which, oftentimes that sparks romance
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: because your bodies are close. You're spending eight hours together. You're, you're,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you're so close trying to win. You have emotions, your
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: feet hurt and you're, and you are bodies have never
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: been trimmer and more hot. So a lot of romances
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: happened then. Um, you know, Brian Austin green is with
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: his dancing partner and they're married and have kids, whatever. So, um,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: while he's twirling around, uh, Kyle Richards is twirling around
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: in Paris with Morgan Wade. I'm gonna make you love my...
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Filming the documentary that the whole world has been asking
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: for for a decade. Unbeknownst to the fact that nobody
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: even knew who Morgan Wade was up until, what, six,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: eight weeks ago? But now we need to know about
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: her life and what is it like to get up
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: at 5 a.m. and catch a flight to Paris and
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: work on your music. and get a new tattoo, and I.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Mean, I.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Do you think that she's having... This is a lesbian
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: lover relationship? Are you convinced that they're.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I have gone back and forth so many times.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I have thought, yes.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Then I thought she was dropping crumbs with the photos,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: you know, being that she's an experienced person.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Kyle, she learned from her niece.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: She knows what she's doing to get knowing that the
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: fans would be like, who is this girl putting her.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: On the lap and all that?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Making big Catholic crowd. And I kind of was like, eh.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Then when they broke up, I was like, maybe, maybe
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: they are scissoring. Then when they were like, no, we're
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: not really broken up. I was like, okay, this was
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: for PR. Then I did perfect a long time ago.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I think she has a stake in this
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: girl's music. And, you know, she tried to be a
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: producer before with the American woman. And unfortunately that didn't
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: work though. I know a lot of people really liked
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: the show, but it didn't last.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, if American woman didn't last, Morgan Wade's
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: not going to save her producing career.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: And I just think just like everybody else that all
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: of a sudden has watched way too many documentaries since
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: COVID and she was like, now I want to be
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: that girl with the baseball hat and the documentarian. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I think she has such an interesting story that's going
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: to involve, you know, I think there was a cancer situation.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Like there's lots of things that they bond together. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I think that was her goal and she got the
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: funding for it. And, and, but I think she maybe
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to totally now reveal that there's romance. Because
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: people were critical of the May-December romance, the age difference.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, but come on though, as somebody that works
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: in entertainment, would you ever be like, let me make
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: a documentary about this woman's life? Like the interest in it,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: like it's so deep that it's like, it's fucking weird.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Like it's like, and we're not talking about how weird
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I get it. We're not trying to out anybody has
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: her own journey and whatever. If she wants to scissor Morgan,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: then let them be scissor sisters. Nobody's going to judge
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: them for that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: But like, It's weird.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have lesbian friends and they want nothing
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: With me sexually.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: So I do think you can, just like a straight
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: guy can have a gay friend. I do think it doesn't.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Mean, you know. But that's a really hard situation. However,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Andy and John Mayer. But again, it can happen.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: But like, I'm just, I think she wants us to
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: think it whether it's happening or not. And I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: it would be a wasted opportunity if it wasn't. It's
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: like going to an all-you-can-eat buffet and not trying everything.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Not trying the sushi.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I think... So I think... Kyle's never, as we saw
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: from the psychic on Beverly Hills back at the dinner
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: from hell, I don't think Kyle was ever emotionally fulfilled
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: by Mauricio. I think that they kind of were just
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: partners and that, you know, obviously there was the sexual chemistry,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: but I don't think the relationship ever went deep because
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: we've never really seen the relationship deep on Beverly Hills
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: throughout all these seasons. We've never seen them have conflicts
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: or fight or, you know, we've never seen the relationship.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think they played it really well.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: And it was one of the things that I always said,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I always said, you know, for someone who has a
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: family and a husband, Kyle really comes off great and
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: unscathed in it. And then people started to notice in
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years, you know, she doesn't put
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: herself out there. She's always the one that's kind of like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: not necessarily stirring the pot, but acting like she cares
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: about other people. But also then people started to see
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: it and she started to get, lose a little bit
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: of popularity in things. And I think that, I think
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: they had a great, marriage and growing together and building
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: this together and i think that they had a sexual
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: fun relationship too um but you know her mom the
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: kathy hilton big kathy not kathy hilton kathy richards the
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: big kathy you know always taught the girls like when
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: i entered when i interviewed kyle she was like my
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: mom taught me that you know You make the home
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the nicest place your husband has been all day. So
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: even if you can't cook, you put some garlic in
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: a pan with some butter and you get takeout and
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: you put it in beautiful dishes and you light the
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: candles and you have a martini waiting and that kind
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: of thing.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And I think she was a really great wife and
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: homemaker and mom.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you get to a place and she's such
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: a big star in her own right.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Now the girls are doing great with him on the thing.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll actually get divorced because there's
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: so much to actually split up. And I think they're
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: always going to remain a family.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people now, fortunately, when
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: they get divorced, when the kids are older, they can
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: remain a family. They can be at that one-year-old grandchild's
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: first birthday together and they don't care.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: If they can, it's a beautiful thing.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Because they just don't want to be married anymore. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I think the fact that he's like, oh, Morgan's great.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: She's great.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Whether... Yeah, he's jerking off to her. He thinks it's hot.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he cares.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: No.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think he cares because I don't think the
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: love was that kind of love that would be jealousy.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was just like... It was always
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: very surface. It was always very sexual. It was never
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: very deep, which is why I think now that she's
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: gone sober, and I think now she's going through some
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: sort of identity crisis. True, which is great. She sees
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills ending for her. She's not going to do
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: this for another five years. Yeah. She knows that that's
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: not going to be there forever. The kids are all grown.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Mauricio's off doing the agency, and he has his reality
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: show that I think she's trying to figure out what
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: the next chapter of her life is going to be.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And I think she happened to find Morgan Wade, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: they have a really deep emotional connection that she's never
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: had with Mauricio. So I don't think that they're really scissoring.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: But I do think that there is a really deep
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: emotional bond. My fear, though, is that Morgan Wade might
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: be catching feelings because this is a tale as old
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: as time within the gay community.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: With lesbians.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: You have your straight friend. You're gay. And then you
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: kind of develop feelings for your straight friend. And they're
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: not going to develop feelings for you because they're very
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: much straight. But there is just this deep connection. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: then it does get a little confusing. And then somebody
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: gets hurt in the end. So I think that Kyle's
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: maybe playing with fire.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you something.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: With gay men, I know a lot of gay men
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: where sometimes the two gay best friends have never hooked up.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they have.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: And I find there's a lot of gay couples that surprisingly,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: unlike heterosexual couples, are able to then continue to be friends.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, men, gay men.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Now, lesbians, we hear that, you know, it's the joke
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: of they meet, the next date is the U-Haul.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: And then when they break up, you really are dealing
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: with two women and the emotions are double. And the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: emotions for men are then double, less emotion.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: So why you really can't compare lesbians, gays, or hetero relationships,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: in general you can't compare some things you can't compare.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: So who knows?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I would hope that whether it was romantic or not,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: it'd be really great if they could remain friends. And
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: she's done a lot for Morgan's career. Nobody knew of her.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Nobody knew Morgan before this.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And if this can get her in a different position
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: of media power and being an executive as she enters
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: her mid-50s and can help other younger artists, then I
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: think that's a really cool career shift away from being
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: in a shiny dress and talking shit about someone's table
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: napkins at their party.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It's very generous of Kyle's power and the interest in
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Morgan Wade. Yeah. But I like where we're going with that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Raquel is now officially Rachel, according to her Instagram. This is,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: you know, from Scandival, from Vanderpump Rules. Tom Sandoval was
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: blocked and he said some shady things since he's been
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: interviewed about her blocking him.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: He wished her a happy birthday on Instagram.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: She took a photo of that and then put on
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: her stories that he has now been blocked. And he said,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: according to ByWigHelloDrama, a great Instagram account that I talk
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: about a lot, quote, when somebody said she blocked me,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, whatever. Maybe her parents are
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: going to dock her allowance this week or something. But
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: to post that on her story is pretty childish.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: He really said that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: He also called her thirsty and immature for doing that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: That is so not surprising, but so rude. I guess
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: nobody is going to come above having any respect for
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: anybody in this because they're all thirsty.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: They're all childish.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: They all are using each other for content and sweatshirts
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: and everything. And I understand that's the world we all
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: live in. I'm a part of it as well. But
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: he really isn't too bright because he could have said
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: so many things that could have made him look better.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Better in this.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: He could have been like, hey. I totally understand. And
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: it's probably for the best.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe one day we could be friends. Probably not. But like,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: you know what? Good for her.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I understand it. I respect her needing to take some space.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: She's going to do something else with her life.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I predict she's going to get into the wellness lifestyle.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: She's going to do Fit Timmy T on Instagram.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: But also just like doing something like flower arranging. This
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: is a great way to, you know, make your couch
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: go from summer to fall with just a few throw pillows.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: And here's a charcuterie board like that. I think she's
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: going to try to go towards that. And, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I remember what I what I wanted her to do.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: And I remember I said this to Lala and she
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't watching the show and she didn't listen is when
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: she broke up with with James. I was like, she
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: needs to leave the show. yeah and she needs to
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: go join who I call the cupcake girls the cupcake
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: girls are these girls that are friends with Gretchen Rossi
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: that are all over her Instagram that for some reason
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: OC have never been able to cast I don't know
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: if they're too nice too normal too rich the husbands
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: don't let them I don't know but they're these tiny
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: size zero girls that do these huge elaborate birthday parties
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: for each other, about two a month.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: And it's like, everyone wear Tiffany blue. And then they
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: have a five course meal that no one eats. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I just look at the photos and I just want
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: to eat a cupcake, okay?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: I said, why doesn't she go and marry a rich
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: guy and become a cupcake girl? And be friends with
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: those girls. She missed the window now. Now they'll never
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: have her.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: No.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I thought once she broke up. Once we saw her
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: sail off into her little. At the end of last
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: season's reunion. I thought that was the last we were
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: ever going to see of Raquel. And then she comes
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: back in. Just like. Coming after Katie and Schwartz. And
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: she can't. Come on. Raquel and Katie. That fight was
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: so sad.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Do you think. And then we'll move on.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Do you think they were seeing each other before the
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: seven months that we were heard?
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I think that there was probably like flirting and a
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: little touching, but I don't think they went all the
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: way just yet.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I think there was, like, a little bit of a
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: vibe before. But, I mean, listen, she's happy now. She
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: can be Bambi frolicking in the flowers like she is
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: on Instagram and live her best life, her cupcake life.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Bambi-eyed bitch.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Bambi-eyed bitch.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: What do you think of New York Housewives, the new one?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Are you enjoying it, liking it? What do you want
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: to see happen?
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Bless her soul. Bless her heart. It's cute. Like, it's fun. Like,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I don't get why everybody's overhyping it. Like, it's not
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: that interesting. I'm not, like, looking forward to it every
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: single week. I think it's cute. It's nothing compared to
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: the original Roni. Nobody would have cared if we didn't
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: call it Roni because we cared because we're like, what
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: is the reboot going to be? But it's like, let's
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: be honest. The original Roni was never supposed to be
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: a show about, you know, true representation in New York.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: It was called Manhattan Moms and it was about these...
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: you know, affluent, kooky ladies that have a lot of
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: money that like, you know, are fighting to get their
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: kids into private schools. Like it was never supposed to
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: be a relatable show. It was always kooky, wacky, out
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: of touch. And we were meant to laugh at how
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: ridiculous these women's lives were.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I just said the same thing. I was talking to
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: my girlfriend about it, who she's been watching it as long.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: As I have.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: She's not in this business. And she's like, I like them.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: They're nice. I go, yes, you know, they are relatable,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: but you know what? Like, who was that?
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: There was that one influencer that, like, lost everything because
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: she talked about being relatable.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm not relatable. But, like, you're right. When Real
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Housewives of New York started, it wasn't relatable.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Only the people that lived in New York on the
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Upper West Side could relate to them.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And us sitting at home, we were like, what's it
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: like to live in a penthouse?
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: What's it like to go to Central Park and walk
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: your dog? We were watching it. What's it like to
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: get into the hardest private school?
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: It wasn't relatable.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: These women are more relatable and they are likable and
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: they like have nice personalities and stuff, but nobody is like, even,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: even Jenna who has the money, I guess the older one, um,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: her apartment and her closet are like, wow, but it's not,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I know it's so expensive in New York, but to
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: someone who's sitting at home in Texas, it's still not that,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Oh my God, look at this place. And like, So
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, I think that's it. And they
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: just don't have a history. So even when they're making
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: each other laugh, which there was a fun scene last
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: night where they're telling embarrassing stories.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: It's not the kind of laughing that would happen between.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Sonia and Luann because they've known each other for 20
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: years and you're rolling over and peeing or when you
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: have a good friend and all of a sudden you
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: look give them a look and you're dying and your
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: other friends that don't know you as well are like
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: why are you guys laughing too hard and you're like
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: just just you know because they.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Were cast they were just cast.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: I think that's why like OC is doing better this
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: season is because you have like Heather Dubrow Shannon Bedore
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Tamara and they have a history together you know and
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: we're invested in that history because you can feel that
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: chemistry whether they're getting along or not getting along These
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: women were all just cast on a show. They're all
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: trying to get to know each other and like trying
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: to like each other and also trying to like kind
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: of create a little bit of drama. Like, right. But
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: it's just it's not really.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: No, like the fights that have happened and it shouldn't
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: be about fights, but that's what the show is. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: about these women fight. Aaron, you know, took Uba's phone
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: for 45 minutes. I would freak out, too, if my
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: phone was missing. I wouldn't think it was very funny.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: But OK, so they're going to have a big fight
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: But, like, what are they going to talk about at
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: the reunion?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: There's nothing.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: There's nothing. Cheese and phones and.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: And that Brie or Brynn.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Brynn trying to hit on Abe. Like, come on. Once
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: you actually watch... Once Erin watches that scene, there's no
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: way she can still... I actually think that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing that you could take from
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: this entire season is when Brynn said, pretend to choke
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: on a penis when you're giving a blowjob because that'll
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: make the guy feel good, like, my dick was so big.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the trick, though.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: And I... I didn't know it. And I thought that
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: was a great tip.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it can be five inches. And then
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: he's going to be like, oh, my.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I think if there's anything you could take away from
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: That's about it. It wasn't how to make a wreath.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: No.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: That looked hideous.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: No.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: It wasn't about, you know, and Jenna. Jenna's thing.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: I do appreciate her honesty of like, I'm on this
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: show because I have a million other businesses that I
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: need to sell because I'm I'm never going to work
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: at J.Crew again.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why every time she gives them gifts, they're
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: all with her moniker on it and her logo.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm kind of, I know everyone dies
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: for her.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think she's all that interested. The
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: way she.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Talks, and she's just like, well, yeah, I think that
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: this is really quite amazing. It's not what I do,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: but I'm not her.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Like it's just kind of like.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: She's not a housewife.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: It's such a, it's such a mixed match.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: And then I also, I don't really like that Brynn
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: and some of the women flirt with her all the
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: time because she's the only, she's the, we've had lots
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: of bi women.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: But she's like the first out lesbian.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: We have Miami, Julia. Oh. She's not that memorable.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And you know what? Ariana, what's her name? Adriana. She
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: kind of does it with her too.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: For some reason, it kind of bothers me and it
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: kind of like, seems sort of, it's like the ultimate thirst.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Like, you're not a lesbian, there's one lesbian here, and
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: you're so thirsty for attention that you're flirting with this
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: woman that I'm sure wants nothing to do with you,
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: whether she's single or married or not.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Just because she's a lesbian.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean she's automatically going to want to be all
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: over you. Oh, I'm white, do you want to look
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: at my tit?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, that first, it really bothers me.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. It's just, it's weird, because you
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: know they're not, like, not genuinely interested in, like.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Each other, yeah. Okay, Salt Lake. Let's bring back Heisman.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Do you know that, I mean, I saw a really
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: funny meme comparing Meredith's family with her two, with Brooks
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: and Chloe, is that her name?
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: And the husband, and comparing them to Schitt's Creek.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, I saw that, yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: And I was like, that is so true.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: And Whitney pointing out that they have rented a different
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: house every year.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Every season, yeah.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: And yeah, some people like to rent and live in
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: a nicer place than they could afford to buy. And
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: that's their prerogative. And you're on a show like this
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: and you're scrambling. But it's also Whitney's prerogative to point
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you think Meredith has fucked everyone in half
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: of New York? I.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, not... New York is a big city. But
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I think there's probably been more than a couple guys.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And there was that... The rumor was that it was
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: that one guy that was seen on some of the
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: New York episodes. Oh, Red Scarf, yeah. Not Red Scarf.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, not Red Scarf?
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: It's another guy that sort of had like a... Kind
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: of a larger build.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And he was like a Ramona friend or something.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: And.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: That was the rumor that that guy also did Jen
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Shaw and her.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Yes. And that's when Jen Shaw was eating her out
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: at the steakhouse. Did you hear that rumor?
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Tell that rumor.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: That was a rumor on Reddit.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I think I've heard it.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: And I think they made fun of it on the
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: show at one of the reunions or something. But that
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: they were they like hooked up.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Who Meredith and Jen Shaw.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that like Jen Shaw ate her out at
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: like a steakhouse that they were all there. And then
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Jen Shaw crawled under the table and. like was fooling
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: around with her. And I'm like, maybe like they were joking.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was done in jest. But I think the story, like,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I don't really believe that.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: No.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that any of these girls.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think any of them have hooked up.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: I think they're all too selfish and lazy to bother
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: hooking up with anybody that's not on camera.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe the new girl. I think she's the one
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: that I think would get down the most. This one? Yeah. Monica,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: is that her name?
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, talk about the fact that, I mean, her
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: story is super juicy, that she boned her brother-in-law for
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: 18 months and got kicked out of the church. The
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: church stuff is interesting, the Mormon thing. I just saw
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: a TikTok with this girl... doing a TikTok while she's
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: folding baby clothes. And she's Mormon. And she's like, I might.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: And she's like, I have no followers. And this really,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: and even this didn't have a lot of views, but
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: somehow it popped up in my thing.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And she goes, but I love this church.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: And it really bothers me that Bravo showed a photo
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: of the sacred underwear. She's like, I just don't know
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: that they would make fun of anything else that's like
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: a sacred thing in other religions like that. yeah and
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: then other people that were Mormon were like shut up
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I'm glad they're exposing it like this is weird and
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: yeah you know all that I feel like I just
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: thought it was kind of an interesting perspective because I
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: was thinking about it like you know I was raised
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Catholic though I'm totally fine talking about all the things
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: that are wrong with the Catholic Church and all that
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: type of stuff um You were raised Catholic too?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: So it's like, but there's still things that you and
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: I probably take from it that are, are nice, you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: that keep us like moral or whatever, or we look
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: forward to it or the smell of the, you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: benediction or whatever, you know, like.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: There's things like that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: But, um, and I think maybe because our religion has
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: been so talked about and exposed and the negativity and
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: there's so many movies about things that are effed up
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: about it, maybe that maybe because there really hasn't been
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: much about Mormonism in the media, that people that are
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Mormon might feel like they're being somehow attacked or something.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's interest in it, and it's like
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: you can't hide from these things. At some point it
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: was going to come out or be exposed, and if anything,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: at least it's highlighting the Mormon church.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of surprised that Jack.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Her son, who was the CEO of Great Wolf Hair Care, or.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Whatever it was called.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I'm mad I never got on the PR list for that.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: I was on Reza's PR list.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: That he's doing the mission.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I just hope once he does the mission that he
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: also has some of those jars of, you know, hair gel.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: But I'm actually really surprised. And I think it's kind
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: of interesting.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: How they would feel.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's like, I remember being a little kid. And
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: this nun coming to speak at our school. And she's like,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: when I decided I was going to be a nun,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: my parents were so upset. And as a little girl,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, wouldn't that be the best thing
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  Speaker 4: you could do? Like, isn't that what all of our
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: parents want us to do is to be a nun
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  Speaker 4: and a priest? And I remember I went home to
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  Speaker 4: my mom and I'm like, mom, would you, wouldn't you
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  Speaker 4: be happy if I became a nun? And she was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: she was like, no, that means you never can get.
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  Speaker 2: Married or have kids.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, I thought that was the ultimate,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: like being the good Catholic. And so I think it's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: kind of like, of course, the mission is just two years.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: And in some ways, I think whatever they do on
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: that mission sometimes makes the best sales business people because
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: they get so much rejection, which is why so many
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Mormons are very successful.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: In business, I think.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: But I was sort of surprised the way he was
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: portrayed in the previous seasons. I'm very shocked that he
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: would go do this versus going to college and being
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: I saw a video of him bragging.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: About how much money he had in his bank account.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: A TikTok where someone's like, how much money are you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: making out?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And he's like, which one?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. And I mean, it was a bit of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: a plot twist. I don't even think Lisa saw it coming. No.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't think she totally loves it either, but
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: she's trying.
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  Speaker 3: To be like a good mom. How do you want
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: your son to go on the mission and you're over here,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: you know, hacking the tequila brand that Mary Cosby thinks
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: is going to kill people?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't get to go to a football game.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Which, let's be honest, it's not that readily available to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: kill that many people. It's only available in Utah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: She has sent it to me.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't buy it if you're a consumer.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Listen, I never really do shots.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: And I did try the different tequilas at the end
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: of my shows when it was, you know, the 818
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: and Cassie. And I still, I'm like, I know what
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: good red wine is. And I know what good champagne
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: and Chardonnay is because that I do have a palate for.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: But I don't have a palate for vodka or tequila.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I really don't know.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: I have a palate for vodka. I don't have a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: palate for tequila.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't know.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Like, I guess I could tell a difference if it was,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: you know, the Azul shot or whatever.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm not so... I think it's so weird that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: people do shots at all. Like, I'm like, I don't... Well, I.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Feel like most people just do shots to get fucked up.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: They're not doing.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Shots for the taste of it. I guess, but that's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: why I feel like it's weird.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Unless you're Denise Richards and you want it neat.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Reposado neat.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: But I feel like past college... It's just weird for
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: me to see all these, like, you know, 50-year-old mothers
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: doing shots.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kathy Hilton wanted to do a bottoms-up on Beverly Hills.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I guess it was. Okay, so what do
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: we think? I just realized Mary's not in this photo.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Well, she's not full-time.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: What do you think about them bringing back Mary?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Listen, I think Mary's great TV.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Mary's the cult leader. Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I think Mary.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Or Mary the cult leader, church leader. I don't know
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: what you want to call it, but yeah.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: She's great television.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: She's hilarious. She's always going to be quirky and eccentric.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just... I like... Personally, I like her.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I think Twitter... it's a little weird that Twitter like
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: will drag Ramona Singer, but like they praise Mary when
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I think they're both equally like terrible people. And like,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I just, I think that the hypocrisy is kind of funny,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: but like she's a terrible human being and she probably
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: does run a cold, but she's great television.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's what they needed. They were
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: just like, we're losing Jen Shah. We'll bring her back.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: She literally cares about nobody in the cast, hates her husband,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: kind of likes her son and only care. And it's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: just a snob. That's her whole character. She's not mentioned
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: the church at all. She's not mentioning.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: God at all.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Like she's like the least religious church leader I've ever seen. And, um,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: but yeah, with her eyes and her weirdness, I.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I, I would have brought her back to, she is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: ruthless and toothless. She's vile to these women. Like the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: text messages that she sends to like Lisa Barlow or
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: the way she talks to Whitney. Yeah. Calling Heather in Brett. Like,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: it's just like, she has no loyalty to anybody. She's hardcore,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: but I think it's fun to watch. And now let's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: finish with OC. Um, What do you think should happen?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I guess we have about, what, a couple episodes left before?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: I know they shot the reunion.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I have said I think Heather does need to go
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: to Beverly Hills or go away.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: I think she doesn't fit. I think that would kill OC.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if they just get more kind of, like,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: sorry to say it, kind of tacky women.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Nobody lives near the sea. No one's really wealthy.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: But they're kind of fun and messy.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: So just stick with messy, tacky people that don't know
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: how to dress because their confessional looks are the worst
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: confessional looks I've seen of any franchise. Or we do
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: a younger version type of thing.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Or what do you think we should do? I've given
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: my opinion. You say what you should do. If you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: were hired as an executive at Bravo.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I like this cast. I would give it another go.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Especially now with the DUI. I want to see Shannon
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: and Gina's dynamic continue to unfold. I mean, without Heather,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like the show would really go sink into
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: the gutter.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Do you think when the news came out about the DUI,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: do you think the executives at Bravo turned up the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: music and did a dance? Being that no one was hurt.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: She didn't hurt anybody. She wasn't hurt.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Do you think they did a dance or only the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: people at Shed Media or whoever does this show?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Who does this show?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Or maybe just the production company did a dance.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Who did a dance?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: I think the production company did a dance because they
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: think this is going to give the show some legs.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: Is she going to go sober? Is she going to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: not go sober? Is she going to try to defend it?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Are they going to be bringing it up all the time?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: What is it going to be?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Especially since she had a really rough season this past season.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: that like this is going to continue to, this is
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: like when Luann, remember when Luann got arrested and then
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: she came out with Cabaret? I mean, Shannon now has
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: a whole variety of options. She could do caber-lesque, she
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: could do cabaret, like she has options now. She could
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: do stand-up.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Speaking of which, I'm sure you've seen Countess Luann's shows.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't been to the Countess Luann show.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: How have you not been?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, because I was going to ask you to compare
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: the two shows, though I think they're very different, Erica
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: and hers.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like Luann's is more of like a variety show.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: But it's the same vibe of just like having fun
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: with your friends and getting drunk and whatever. But hers
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: is more like I feel like Erica, you know, is
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: more serious about the fact because she did it before.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: And then Countess did it since. But she still is
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: serious about it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: But I think she thinks it's more serious than it
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: actually is. Like Luann thinks that like she's a cabaret star.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: And it's like people are showing up because they watch
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: you on TV. Housewives.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Yes. And I mean, but she loves it and she,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: you know, and she does and she does try hard.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: So I think it's all good. Tell everybody where they
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: can find more of you.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I host a podcast called No Filter with Zach Peter.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: It airs Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays on all podcast platforms.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: You can also watch it on YouTube or watch it
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: on Spotify. I'm going to be doing a live taping
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: of the show at the Bourbon Room, which is the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: last place I saw you. Awesome. November 19th. Great. So
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing a Friendsgiving show. Oh, that's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: a good idea. Yeah. Something fun for the holidays. Yes.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: That is awesome.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: And what's your Instagram?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Did you say it?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: My personal Instagram is just plain Zach and the show
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Instagram is no filter with Zach.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for coming out to the Valley.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: I hope that you can go across the street and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: shop at Target or do whatever.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: You have to do here.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Is there a Lamps Plus nearby?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Um, you know what there probably is, you know, we
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: have the best mall.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You know, the Westfield mall.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: We have the Topanga social. We have, you can go
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: to that target. There's also Neiman's there. And Air May is.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's ready yet, but Gucci's there. Louboutin.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you might want to just take advantage, go
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: to the village for lunch.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:43
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