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Malcolm Mulholland: Patient Voice Aotearoa Chair on the data showing almost a quarter of nurse shifts were understaffed · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Health New Zealand's released after pressure from news Talk SETB.
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  Speaker 1: I might add staffing levels across the public health system.
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  Speaker 1: It looks at basically every single nursing shift in the
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  Speaker 1: public system over twenty twenty five, were they staffed to
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  Speaker 1: Health New Zealand's targets that's the question. Well, twenty five
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  Speaker 1: percent didn't have enough staff, forty four percent were overstaffed,
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  Speaker 1: and thirty one percent were staffed at target. Malcolm R.
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  Speaker 1: Holland is patient voice alter hat oh Chin and joins
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  Speaker 1: me this morning. Malcolm, Good morning morning. Ryan, Health New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand says this data is not actually very useful. What
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  Speaker 1: do you make of it?
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  Speaker 2: I tend to believe the nurses to be honest over
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  Speaker 2: a bureaucrat. Anybody who spent time in ed lately or
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  Speaker 2: in the hospitals will know that the staff they are
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  Speaker 2: overrun and there's just not enough of them.
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  Speaker 1: Will we ever have enough nurses? Because it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: who's in power, it doesn't matter who's in charge, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like we never have enough nurses.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's getting particularly bad though, Ryan. I think
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  Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, you know, how much is enough?
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  Speaker 2: And you could say that both labor and national and
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  Speaker 2: guilty of it. But it seems to me over the
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  Speaker 2: past two to three years that the situation's become particularly
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  Speaker 2: bad and you only need to take a quick look
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  Speaker 2: at media to see the reporting that's coming through about
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  Speaker 2: patient arm that's been caused as a result. So I
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  Speaker 2: would say that things are getting worse.
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  Speaker 1: So what is what are we going to just get
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  Speaker 1: more nurses.
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  Speaker 2: Get more nurses, pay them so that we can be
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  Speaker 2: competitive with Australia. We know that many of our workforce
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  Speaker 2: go over there. We need to have a realistic conversation
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  Speaker 2: and debate about how much we value our nurses and
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  Speaker 2: our doctors for that matter.
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm Mahand's Patient Voice alted Olchier, Good to have you
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