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Ep. 75 "The Prototype" · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 1: talk back.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a
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  Speaker 2: new episode of We Talk Back, a show dedicated to
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  Speaker 2: you niggas and these hoes. That's my new intro. You
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  Speaker 2: like it?
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: You niggas and these hoes.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: It's me, Tia Bell.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a nigga and a hoe at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: so this show is definitely for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hybrid.
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  Speaker 5: It's a hybrid.
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  Speaker 2: It's a me, my re-hoe.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning in, man. Hey, AJ.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, girl. What's going on? How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Shit, what did I do this weekend? Oh, my God, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Turn one this weekend. We had, like, such a lit
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  Speaker 1: party for her. It was really an adult party, honestly. Like,
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  Speaker 1: she was sleepy the whole time of the party, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: And we was just drinking. We had, like, cocktails, you know,
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  Speaker 1: named for her. And it was such a good time.
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  Speaker 1: We had so much fun. I was all down bad.
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  Speaker 1: I stayed in bed all day Sunday because I was lit.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday for a one-year-old birthday party.
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  Speaker 5: Shame.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For the kids' birthdays. Shit turned into an adult party
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  Speaker 2: after six.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Shit, it was an adult party from the time it started.
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  Speaker 2: Shame. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What about you? What'd you do this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, remember I told y'all last week I was heading
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  Speaker 2: to Atlanta this week, so that's what I did all weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Drinking and smoking.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And all the bald-headed, whole shit you could think of. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: no threesomes and no shit like that. But all the
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  Speaker 2: ratchet shit y'all could think of.
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  Speaker 3: Tomato, tomato, tomato.
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  Speaker 2: All the bald-headed, whole shit y'all could think of. I
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  Speaker 2: was doing it. And my body shut the fuck down
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Y'all notice they've been canceling a lot of flights.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's been flying recently. But by
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  Speaker 2: the grace of God, I made it home. My flight
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  Speaker 2: was delayed, not canceled. And I just fucked up my day.
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta airport is terrible. First of all, it took me
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  Speaker 2: an hour to get through security. Just ruined my whole shit.
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  Speaker 2: But all in all, it was a good trip. That
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  Speaker 2: was my birthday celebration for the most part. So I
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  Speaker 2: hung out with my homegirl. We ate a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good food. One thing about Atlanta, them motherfuckers got some
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  Speaker 2: good food in Atlanta. There's so many restaurants. If you
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  Speaker 2: open a business there, that shit is going to thrive
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  Speaker 2: because niggas are going to show up. Every place is
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  Speaker 2: packed all the time. You ever ate at this steakhouse
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  Speaker 2: called Hal's?
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  Speaker 5: Mm-mm.
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  Speaker 2: They have really good food. It's a vibe. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking for a white zaddy, that's where you go, ladies.
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: The white zaddies getting off of work with they button
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  Speaker 2: up in slacks, they in there. The golf players, they
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  Speaker 2: in there. The white zaddies? All the working girls, yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's a two-floor house. H-A-L apostrophe S.
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  Speaker 2: It's two floors full of white zaddies.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get one?
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  Speaker 2: No, because I was in there with a black zaddy.
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  Speaker 2: So no, I didn't get no white zaddy. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: looking for one. But yeah, it was good vibes. Great vibes. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like fun. I might get me a steak
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  Speaker 3: and some white meat on the side.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm joking. Just joking, guys. Let's get into stupid
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  Speaker 2: internet news. Child, what we got going on this week?
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  Speaker 2: It's a slow week, you don't think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: So apparently the reps from Ripley's Museum is coming for
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  Speaker 2: Kim K. Because y'all remember she wore... Marilyn Monroe's famous teardrop,
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  Speaker 2: little diamond, little number, little strappy dress for the Met
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  Speaker 2: Gala this year. And they posted pictures online of how
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  Speaker 2: it had a few of the beads, the bedazzled, missing
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  Speaker 2: off of it. We're talking about, how old is this dress?
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  Speaker 2: 50 years, 60 years old or some shit? Kim K
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  Speaker 2: went on a strict diet to lose weight to even
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  Speaker 2: fit the dress, first of all. She got in it
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  Speaker 2: and it got some damage, you know?
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  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you wear shit, sis.
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  Speaker 2: That's what happened when you wear old shit like that
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  Speaker 2: that shit is thrift store at this point dry rot
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  Speaker 2: at this point imagine y'all trying to come for her
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  Speaker 2: about that shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah like i think that's dumb like listen don't let
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  Speaker 1: her wear the dress if you didn't want it to
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  Speaker 1: be you know potentially ruined like.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah why you want to wear a dead woman's
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  Speaker 2: dress anyway Why do you want to wear that dress?
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  Speaker 2: What type of goddamn conjuring were y'all trying to do
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  Speaker 2: that night? Why do you want to wear that dress?
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was coming. I thought we might be
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  Speaker 1: able to go one episode without somebody.
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  Speaker 3: We can't, bitch.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to give the people a different perspective.
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  Speaker 2: This is a wild world we living in, right? Y'all
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  Speaker 2: don't realize how time's speeding up. Shit is just getting
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  Speaker 2: crazy and crazy and crazy every fucking day. Why are
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  Speaker 2: you wearing this dead woman's dress? It's like, To me.
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  Speaker 3: So you won't wear a dead woman shit?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: I would wear a replica.
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely put on Whitney Houston's fur right now
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  Speaker 1: in the wintertime.
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  Speaker 2: I would do a replica. I would do a replica.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I respect the dead a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. So I'd wear a replica of it. Does
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  Speaker 2: she need to wear the actual dress, Marilyn Monroe wore?
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  Speaker 2: To me, Kim, baby, yeah, you, you. You not that eye-fucking-conic, man.
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  Speaker 3: Come on. No, Kim is iconic now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Not for me. Not to me.
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  Speaker 2: As iconic as Marilyn Monroe, are we going to be
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  Speaker 2: having posters of Kim K on our wall 30 years
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  Speaker 2: from now?
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  Speaker 3: I doubt it. We won't, but maybe the young people might.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I just don't think so. Okay?
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  Speaker 2: I still like Marilyn Monroe posters.
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  Speaker 3: She might be the starlet of our time.
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  Speaker 2: I can see Beyonce, but we already know that Kim
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  Speaker 2: can't even sit with Beyonce. I can see Beyonce on
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  Speaker 2: my wall.
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  Speaker 3: That's debatable, too, to some people.
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  Speaker 2: Kim can't sit with Beyonce. You like Beyonce's new song?
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  Speaker 2: I love the lyrics. It's not the beat and all that,
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  Speaker 2: but the lyrics of it, it gets you going.
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  Speaker 1: Drake and Beyonce came out with house music this week.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to be rich and doing
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  Speaker 1: coke or something.
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  Speaker 3: To be listening to it or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Get some coke sniffed off my ass
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  Speaker 2: on the back of a boat. Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I, like I was listening to Drake's album
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  Speaker 1: earlier at work and. It made me think of that
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  Speaker 1: episode of Martin. What was the white character? And they
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  Speaker 1: was having that party and they answered the phone.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, oh my God, things are going really
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  Speaker 2: well right now. You better get here.
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  Speaker 5: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: That's who's listening to that album.
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  Speaker 6: Why the fuck does woo go with coke? My fucker
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  Speaker 6: be like, woo! Trying to score some blow, my guy.
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  Speaker 6: You got any blow? I like those lyrics though for Beyonce.
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  Speaker 6: That shit like, that motherfucker said, quit that job. Don't
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  Speaker 6: be letting people stress you out. I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: That's what our generation in particular, that's what we on.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I like the song, but I'm not just
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  Speaker 3: putting it on in the car and ride.
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  Speaker 2: Down the street. It's the lyrics for me. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the beat and all that. I literally listened to the
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  Speaker 2: song for maybe a minute and then I just read
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  Speaker 2: the lyrics because that's what resonated with me the most.
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  Speaker 2: Not really the music.
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  Speaker 3: My ghetto ass need a bass drum. I need a
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  Speaker 3: bass drum.
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  Speaker 2: You need them 808s.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I need that in the back socket.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's the devil, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, look. I just want y'all to just be knowing stuff.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all know like Pro Tools is what they use in
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  Speaker 2: the studios, right? Pro Tools was created by the government.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day, all our music was acoustic. We
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  Speaker 2: played instruments. It's just a different frequency. So now that 808,
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  Speaker 2: that drum beat we love so much and rap fucking music.
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  Speaker 3: It's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: This is why you addicted to that shit. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why niggas be popping pills, listening to that shit on
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  Speaker 2: the way to kill somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Our ancestors, you played drums.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. They played real drums. They weren't
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  Speaker 2: playing mechanical drums off of a computer with a fucking
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  Speaker 2: evil ass frequency coming through. But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And y'all yawn.
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  Speaker 2: It's real, man. Change the music, change the people. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate this song because I feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: a good frequency. Hey guys, know where I can score
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  Speaker 2: some blow?
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  Speaker 5: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: But look, we're going to go ahead and get into
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  Speaker 2: the main topic, y'all. Listen, today we want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about black hair and black women in relation to their hair.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a major, it's a big thing. It's
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  Speaker 2: a big thing for black women, okay? Please don't touch
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  Speaker 2: my shit.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all can't see me, but I'm about to put my
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  Speaker 1: hair in the chair beside me. It's hotter than a
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker right now. Let's go to commercial. We'll be right
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  Speaker 1: back and we'll get into it. Okay, we are back, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what? I got two of my very best
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  Speaker 1: friends on the show and we're talking black hair with
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  Speaker 1: them and one of them I've known since I was
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  Speaker 1: a little girl and we started doing each other's hair
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  Speaker 1: like as kids fucking each other's hair up and then
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  Speaker 1: one of them I've known for at least seven years
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  Speaker 1: and I've been doing her hair the whole time and
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  Speaker 1: I love them both very much thank y'all for joining
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  Speaker 1: us today.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you thanks for the invite thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: So, Stacey, tell our listeners a little bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, everyone. I'm Stacey Mitchell.
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  Speaker 8: I've been in hairstyles for 21 years, but I started
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  Speaker 8: way before then, about four years old, playing.
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  Speaker 7: With my Barbies. Mm-hmm. I love it. Can you think
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  Speaker 7: of anything else I'd rather do?
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  Speaker 3: And you still love it.
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  Speaker 7: I still love it. But I give myself breaks so
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  Speaker 7: I can continue to love it.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: That's smart. That's smart, smart. And then, Tamika, introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Tamika, VA two up, two down.
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  Speaker 3: From Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm from Virginia, live here in Charlotte now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just happy to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, bitch.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think most stylists, I think I've probably
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  Speaker 2: been doing here since first grade, but I never got
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  Speaker 2: my license to do here because I cannot stand the
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  Speaker 2: customer service aspect of dealing with Black women and they
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  Speaker 2: fucking here, okay? Because you would do a bitch here
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday and see her ass on Monday. She done
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  Speaker 2: let some nigga pull on that shit all weekend and
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  Speaker 2: now you ain't did it right. So.
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  Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact.
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  Speaker 7: That can happen.
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  Speaker 1: The customer service aspect is... trying at times and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it does make me want to quit like you know
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  Speaker 1: what fuck these bitches i'm sick of y'all cut my
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  Speaker 1: hair and make it look longer dumb ass shit like
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  Speaker 1: that like how i'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna cut your hair and make it look longer bitch.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes it can be like crazy with black women
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  Speaker 1: in our expectations for hair stacy have you do you
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  Speaker 1: have any experience with that like with your customers like
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  Speaker 1: what do you do You.
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  Speaker 8: Know, after so many years, I've tried to figure out
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  Speaker 8: the best plan for that. And I really just over-deliver
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  Speaker 8: and under-sell it. Like, if I know there's a possibility
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  Speaker 8: things won't turn out, I'm trying to be really upfront
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  Speaker 8: about it. But I don't have a whole lot of
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  Speaker 8: problems like that anymore. I promise I have gotten it
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  Speaker 8: down to a science.
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  Speaker 3: Where bitches just be happy all the time?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they know up front. Like, I can't make a miracle.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we talked about it before. And they're always
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  Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised after. I try to make it work.
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  Speaker 7: You can't just make blonde hair out of.
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  Speaker 2: Blue-black hair, you know, in one day. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you got to just let them know. You might be
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  Speaker 2: a little redhead for a while.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Unless it's a wig or a weave, throw that shit
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  Speaker 1: on top and you could be blonde in one day.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: But that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I try to be honest as much as possible
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  Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: respect the honesty in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Tamika, so you're one of my clients. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any gripes with me as a hairstylist for you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm speaking for the clients now. We done heard
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  Speaker 4: from the stylists.
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  Speaker 5: So we be, with the customer service, we be leaning.
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  Speaker 4: On y'all ass too now because, you know, let us
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  Speaker 4: be five minutes late. You're texting, you're calling, and you're
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  Speaker 4: on your way. Papa, I was sitting there waiting for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm on my way.
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  Speaker 5: So I get it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I guess it's on both sides of the spectrum. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, give and take. Sometimes y'all get on our nerves,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes we get on y'all's with the customer service
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  Speaker 4: side of it. Because I can't really say this with you, Tammy,
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  Speaker 4: but I've had other stylists where they literally triple book.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there waiting, like, two hours on top
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  Speaker 4: of my appointment time, you know, to get my hair done.
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  Speaker 4: And if I would have did the same thing, if
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  Speaker 4: I'm freaking 30 minutes late, you canceling my shit, you,
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  Speaker 4: you blocking me, you charging me a $ 75 to try
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  Speaker 4: to book with you again, you know, sometimes I feel
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  Speaker 4: like stylists need to be a little bit lenient when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to sometimes life happens. Sometimes we may be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit late and then sometimes, you know, We
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  Speaker 4: love y'all. So sometimes on y'all day off, if we
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  Speaker 4: see a cute hairstyle, we be like, I wonder if
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  Speaker 4: she can do this.
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  Speaker 5: And I get it. That's y'all time.
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  Speaker 4: But y'all created that relationship with us. So we can
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  Speaker 4: feel like we can do that.
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  Speaker 1: I literally be like, bitch, I'm off. Cause y'all get
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  Speaker 1: a text message Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: Like you like this?
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  Speaker 3: No, bitch, not right now. I don't like nothing right now.
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  Speaker 2: I try to.
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  Speaker 4: Slide it in now. I'll try to slide it in.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, we'll be having a good conversation. I'll
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  Speaker 4: be like, I seen this and she catch on.
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  Speaker 5: Like, bitch, I'm off. Like, shit. I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: a side of the head. But yeah, we do that.
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  Speaker 5: We get spoiled by you guys and really be trying.
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  Speaker 5: And I get it. Y'all need y'all days off too.
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  Speaker 5: Peace of mind. We ain't talking about hair today. We
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  Speaker 5: talking about some of the shit.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: And in your defense, some of these stylists have gotten
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  Speaker 1: outrageous with the rules and the expectations of their clients. Like,
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  Speaker 1: come with your hair washed, come with your hair braided down,
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  Speaker 1: sew it in yourself. and then i'm gonna curl it
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  Speaker 1: for you in my experience i've tried to.
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  Speaker 6: Say hey i can squeeze you in if you shampoo
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  Speaker 6: your own.
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  Speaker 2: Hair that's the only way i can get you in
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  Speaker 2: and they come with the greasiest head.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like Never.
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  Speaker 8: I don't trust my clients to shampoo their hair. I
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  Speaker 8: shampoo their hair so it can flow and be soft.
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  Speaker 7: I just can't.
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  Speaker 8: But also, what you were saying, Tamika, about stylists with
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  Speaker 8: their grace periods and running behind and stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: it is a slippery slope because if you have a
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  Speaker 8: stylist that's on time and wants to be on time
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  Speaker 8: and respects and never makes you wait, then she's going to.
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  Speaker 7: Be on time with you.
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  Speaker 2: That means if you have a dinner appointment at 8 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: you can make that appointment.
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  Speaker 5: But.
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: And everybody wants that, you know, you want to be
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: in and out and that's great. But then if she's
• 16:11
  Speaker 8: that type of stylist and never like runs behind, then
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: she can't squeeze you in because she has to stick
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: to a schedule. So it's always a catch 22 with it,
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: you know? It's like be on time or take me
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: whenever I need you to do me.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: You know, it's tough. It's tough.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I didn't think about it like that. Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Or it'll be like you was late, but it don't
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: even be the stylist. It'll be like somebody who was
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: before you was late.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And I allowed them to come late and now it's
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: pushed my whole day back. But now to you as
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: a client, you're late as a hairstylist. It don't matter
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: what else happened. So now they're like, well, you was
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: late this time. So now I'm a hundred minutes late today.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: You know, it's, but I don't charge for that. I'm
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: not one of, you know, those people like 15 minutes
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: late and you start paying $ 20 for every five minutes.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You late after that. I just, that's unfair. I feel
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: like that's unfair practice.
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: It can get out of control.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That's unfair. Sometimes, sometimes I'm late just cause I ain't shit.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I ain't even gonna lie. Sometimes I be sleep.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: Well I've been on the other end of it I
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: went and got.
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: My eyebrows microbladed and I didn't engage the traffic and
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: she was like let me see if I can move
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: my next client if not I can't take you and
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: she politely kept my deposit and could not take me
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: because I was late and I had to respect it
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: because what can I do you know she told me.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: Up front it was tough that I ate that hundred
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: dollars but oh no yes.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: A hundred dollars is a lot to.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Eat Yes, that was my deposit. Non-refundable.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: That is some bullshit.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I had a bitch trying to fight me over her
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: deposit in turn. For real. She pulled up outside.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, girl, I'm not giving you that money back.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: Oh my God, that's crazy.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: You wanted to tussle.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: You wanted to fight, you wanted to tussle. Okay, that's
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: fine because I've been in the gym, bitch.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm stressed out about this nigga. You about to
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: get your ass beat.
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: Just lock the door.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about our childhood and our hair, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: our relationship with our hair as kids. Like, did y'all
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: feel like your hair was beautiful as a child? Were
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you brought up in a household where there was emphasis
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: on your hair and the beauty of it?
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I would say no. It was basically good hair and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: bad hair type thing. You know, she got good hair
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: if her hair was good. you know, a certain way
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: and straighter or it was bad hair. So I don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: think growing up, we really embraced our hair like we
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: do now, which is beautiful.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Like my daughter, she, you know.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: She'll rock her natural hair. And, you know, back then
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: when I was growing up, It was like, oh, no. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it was like, relax it, texturize this and that. You know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: if your hair had any type of kink in it
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: or any type of wave, you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Had bad hair. Right.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Same.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Me and Stacey, I remember, what, sixth grade, we were
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: doing each other's Just For Me's.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Or what was that perm in the box?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Motions, just for me.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Cream of nature.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Whichever one was $ 4.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: 97.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And burning the shit out of our heads.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: Because if it's not burning, it wasn't working back then.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm the youngest of three girls. So in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a house of just four women. I didn't get shit
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for real. So I had to learn to do my
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: own hair, but I did have a fucking Jerry curl.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I had a nouveau wave and then the Jerry curl
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: came out and camp finally, you know, swimming all summer long.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So my mom just never got the Jerry curl back
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: in there. But from that point I was doing my
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: own hair all the time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: From little yeah me too so you're not nobody really
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: teaches you how to manage your hair and it's time
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: consuming also that we're learning now as adults once we
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: stop doing the perms and everything else it's a little
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: bit more time consuming to keep up with your natural
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: hair do y'all think that people are now spending more
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: money on natural hair than they did when they when
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: perms were.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: Absolutely oh yes.
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: Well natural hair costs more in general like the In
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: a salon, if you get your hair done and you're natural,
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: it costs more than getting your hair done if you're relaxed.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: And then just the amount of products you need. If
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: you go to the salon and you have a relaxer
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: and you get a wrap, it's just a wrap.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, but when you get your hair done now,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: if you're natural, you have to buy a ton of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: products to keep up with it. You know, we sprayed
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: a little light oil, Sheena, and kept it going back
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: in the day.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, it was nothing. It's way more now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know all this stuff would exist with hair,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: like steam treatment, like growing up steam treatments and all that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: But when I first seen that, I was like, okay, well,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: we're doing some new shit.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But what if black women, right? Natural hair didn't do
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: anything with it. No products. How would, how would, how
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: would y'all think our relationships would be if we actually
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: walked around with our natural hair without having to do
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: all the manipulation and that we have to do to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: make it look nice, you know, for our current standards.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: So you mean basically dreadlocks?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But we can still comb it, but it would just,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: everybody would have whatever the natural texture, you know, the
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: 4C hair, whatever the other, the spectrum hair is just
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like for real natural. Because even with using other products,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: is your hair really still natural?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to say, AJ. Like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: is it really still natural hair? You know, because all
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the manipulation of the hair, all this taming the hair,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: all this, that's really not the natural state of your hair. Like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: that hair needed a lot of help to look the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: way it looks, you know? Yes, I feel like No,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: that definitely would be something where men would be like, no.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Especially men. You know, they would be like, what's going
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: on with that? Like, what's up with your hair?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into that real quick. You know, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: got a homegirl who... She would always wear sew-ins, wigs,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And then the guy she got with,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he was asking her to stop. Now, first for me, AJ,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I give a disclaimer to niggas when I meet them. Look,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I wear weave all the time. Don't wait a year
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: from now to be trying to come at me about
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: my motherfucking weave. No, I ain't wearing my hair natural.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: If I feel like it, I might, but you won't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: have anything to do with that, right? So she changed
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: up her style for her dude, right? But then he
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: then realized how much longer it was taking her to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: get ready that frustrated him more than her wearing the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: wig so he suggested her to go back to wearing
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: weaves just because it was taking her longer to get
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: ready when.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They had some shit to do so question do y'all
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: feel like men are more attracted to women with their
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: natural hair or with weave.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Black women.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: That's a hard one quite silence they say.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: One thing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: They say one thing, you know? Well, I can speak
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: for my husband. He loves long weave. He likes a
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: short cut. He even likes my sister lots. And I
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: was worried about that for sure. But he just wants
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: you to look done no matter what. Make sure you
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: look done. Like, don't come out half-stepping. Whatever it is.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: That's how he feels.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm finding with a lot of men, like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Long as it look good. That's what I feel like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: niggas be like. Long as it look nice. I don't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: care if it's natural weave or whatever you got. Long
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: as it's complimenting you.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: A lot of men, they say they want natural women,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: which there are plenty. There's a type of black woman
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: out here for every type of black man. My suggestion
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to men would be, if you don't like weave, don't
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: get with a woman that wears weave and then trying
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to change her. If you don't like natural hair.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you like natural hair, there's so many
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: women now wearing their natural hair in whatever state that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: might be in. You could pick one of them. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: they like the long hair.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: They do.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: AJ, to your point, I do. I give that disclaimer
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: to like, listen, I wear wings.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: I wear bonnets.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I look like meat meals at night if this shit
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: slide off.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: So if you don't like that, that's cool. Maybe I'm
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: not the woman for you, but that's me. And just
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: on a personal note, I just feel like a lot
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: of men need to stay out of black woman's business
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: when it comes to hair.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: You know, I have alopecia. Y'all my girls. So I
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: can let y'all know what Tamron knows.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: So when you speak a lot of times on okay
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: wearing weaves and stuff like shut the fuck up you
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: don't know i wear weave because i got i have
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: to for real you know like you don't even know
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: what you're talking about like so you you talking about
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: shit you only got it's not even your business you
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: don't even know what you're talking about be mindful of
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: what what you say so because i'm completely up front
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: about a lot of shit about me so if i'm
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: not that girl for you then that's okay. Like you said,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of girls out here who are completely natural,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: who don't wear a wig, who, you know, will be
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: just what you like.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: But don't try to come over here and try to
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: switch me up because I'm good. I'm good with what
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I got going on, you know?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: When I, let's say I'm dating a nigga and I'm
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: wearing a wig at the time and let's say I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: spending the night with him for the first time, I'll
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: be like.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Look, shit about to get different.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: My hair is going to be in the bathroom and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put... My scarf on, and I want
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you to treat that shit like a crown when I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: come out the bathroom, okay?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Don't be alarmed by my hair. That's going to still
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: be in the bathroom when I come out of this bitch.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: They got to know. And if you walk in my room,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I got a whole... Listen, you know how you got
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the hook that you lay your hats on?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: That's a whole wig hat.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: So don't be scared.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: If you walk in this room. You see blonde brunettes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: You see different bitches hanging on a coat rack.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Listen, I had one of my niggas come in and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he saw my wig hanging and you know that episode
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of Martin where Pam was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: That ain't no goddamn puppy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: He started beating the shit out of my wig.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I was like, what?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Shut up.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: What you gonna do is relax over there.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Right, you better treat her nice. Beat the shit out
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: of my wig like that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Y'all, let's take a break right quick. We'll be right back.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I went to Atlanta this weekend. I'm running the streets
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: doing bald-headed whole shit. And I went out to lunch
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: with one of my guy friends. And I never realized
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: he was like a super-duper Kevin Samuels supporter, right? anyway
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I thought he'd get bitches because I feel like Kevin
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Samuels for niggas who don't get bitches but I thought
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: he'd get bitches I don't know so apparently some of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: his friends have divested out the community and they've moved
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: to places like the Philippines they've moved to Colombia to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: get women right because you know for whatever reason they
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: just can't find a suitable black woman in America And
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: what I was trying to explain to him is that
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: these bitches coming from the slums. So if you want
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: somebody that you just got to take care of and
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: they're not going to say nothing, then yeah, y'all might
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: need to do that. But we know that these women
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: are going to be, you know, archipelagic, darker, lighter, whatever.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: These are going to be women with naturally long hair,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: naturally curly hair. And this is what the standard of
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: beauty is, I believe, a lot of times for black men.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Do y'all think that if Black women in America specifically,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: if all of us had long, naturally curly hair where
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: your man can touch your fucking scalp during sex, would
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you think that men would stay within the community more?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Are men really like that? As far as the aesthetics
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: of hair, are they that shallow?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I think they're very shallow.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: Some are.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Some are, AJ.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: I just feel like I don't come across that kind
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: of guy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: Like, I mean, I, I see my friends and their
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: booze or man or whatever. And they're like, don't forget
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: to put your bonnet on baby.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You know, like my nigga wore a bonnet to bed.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: To real love. I don't wear a bonnet.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm locked up right now, but I mean,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of support and love. I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: there are some men out there that are just going
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to find a reason to complain because you can also
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: make your hair loose curl. I'm a Gina curl stylist.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: If anybody's looking for one, um and so you know
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it can be done i mean lots of people walking
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: around with a curl things their natural hair i mean
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: if you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Want loose curls you can get us on with loose
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: curls i mean if they're.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Gonna find a reason to complain if you have it
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it'll be something else yeah i agree for that type.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Of person a lot a lot of niggas is like
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: what the ass and titties do i don't.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Care care put it back on your head bitch but.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: We ain't gonna act like once they find out what
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: those things do that they don't just start going into
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: some other shit Those other guys talking loud, that's a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: small community. That's just a small group of men. Minority. Apparently,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Black women, I don't know who the fuck business this is,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: but whatever. Apparently, we spend $ 473 million annually on hair care. Apparently.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I found this article on Huffington Post. What is it? HuffPost.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: My bad.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Found this article on HuffPost that says, the narrative surrounding
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: black beauty, specifically hair, is changing as black women embrace
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: their curls, coils, and kinks. Marketing research backs this shift
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: as Mintel reports hair relaxer sales fell 38% between 2012
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and 2017. Conversely, the black hair market is still growing
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: each year and is valued at $ 2. 5 billion. So this
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: article does support that because now more black women are
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: going natural, we're spending more money on hair, even women
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: who wear weave. Because underneath this wig, underneath these tracks,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I'm natural. So you start spending more money on natural
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: hair care. For me, I wish I started a company
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: where you could sample some shit and send it back
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: if you don't want it. I know Sally's, if you
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: use 30% or less of the product, you can return it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So you just want to try and buy some shit.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: But I'm a product junkie. I got so much fucking
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: hair products, it's ridiculous.
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And I feel like if it doesn't, if I try
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it like for a month and it ain't doing what
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to do, I'll discard it
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: and go buy some other shit.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Right. Yes.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: You're discarded. My shit goes into the bin.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Not really throw it out. I keep it. I keep
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it in a just being there.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: You know. Yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Partying with the rest of the shit I ain't using.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to my daughter. She knows everything, anything
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: about anything with hair. So I'm going to run it
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: by her first. And then I'll be like, okay, should
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: I try this? She'll be like, oh yeah, this is
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: a good one.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Then I'll try it. But you're right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I wish I could send some of that shit back
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: because Just because it works well for somebody, it doesn't
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: work well for all hair types. Even the hair types
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to work well for, it's not always that case.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: If you could sample it and send it back, that's
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: a win-win.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I'll probably buy more shit because I can send it back.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like the younger generation, I just feel
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like they have a different relationship with their hair than
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: we did growing up. These young kids will shave their
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: head in a minute and don't give a damn. Like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: when we were growing up, our hair was like, if
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you lost your hair, like, she has cancer.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Something is wrong.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Why is her hair bald? You know, that's the only way. Right?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Do y'all agree that kid, like.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: What do you think is the dynamic that changed the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: relationship with their hair?
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Us, their parents.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: My mom did not play. If she saw a nap,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it was getting relaxed. If she thought my hair was dry,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it was getting grease on it. Like, we couldn't get
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in the pool. I mean, we still did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: But, you know, it was just a completely different... aspect
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: well for one it was um it was not called
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: unapologetically black back then it was black but be safe
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: and make sure you fit in and conform to the
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: community standards so that others won't be worried or think
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: you look different you know you want to get the
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: job and you know all that but now it's unapologetically
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: black I think that's.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: One difference yeah Yeah, I agree. I definitely love how
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: these kids embrace their hair. They embrace their looks. They
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: will shave it. They will color it. They will do whatever.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: And if they want to wear color hair, they don't care.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: If anybody thinks it's ghetto or whatever, that's me. And
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: this is what, if I want to wear 30 inches
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: down my ass, I'm going to do it because that's
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: what I want to do. You know, they, they don't care.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: They like just all like, their self and they're out there.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: And I love it. I tell my kids, and I
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: think that does come from us because I hate it
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: to be sitting on the side, couldn't get in a
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: pool because I just.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Got to relax.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, why the hell did you give
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: me a relaxer one week before you knew I was
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: going to the pool? Now I got to sit on
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the side and I can't get in. So I didn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: do that to my kids, you know, like, no, get
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: in a pool. You know, I'll figure it out. We'll
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: do something else with your hair, you know, over these
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: next couple of months so that you can enjoy it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: So now they just know that I am not my hair. Literally,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not my hair. This hair going to conform to
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: what the fuck I got going on. Not the other
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: way around. Right.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: When I was little, I accidentally fell in that pool. Oops.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Did you get your ass beat when you got.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Up out of that pool?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was willing to take that ass whooping though
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: so I could have some fun.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: That was the worst.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: Oops.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I can admit that I was one of those black
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: women who would be going on vacation to the beach
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: with a motherfucking lace front wig on for the longest.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I really enjoy swimming. Like I like,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: like I'm a fish, you know, I like to be
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: in the fucking water. So now I don't do that shit.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I'm getting me some braids. I had locks just recently.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And it's the most freeing to be able to just
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: get up and fucking go and Do your edges. Still
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: got to deal with some shit. Still got to deal
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: with finding the good edge control lodge. So you're still
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: spending how much money for some fucking edge control. But
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: fuck that too.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Because when I had my locks, I just was letting
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it do it. That was the most like, to be honest, y'all,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: when I had those locks, I didn't think I would
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: enjoy them as much as I did. Because typically I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: someone who wears long weave all the time. And I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: put those locks on my hair and I was like,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I get up in the morning.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to activate a little fucking leave-in conditioner
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: on that shit and just go.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: That was the best shit. I can't wait to get
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: them back.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And then you give your time. Your scalp has access
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to the fucking sun. You can oil your shit. I
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: can't do nothing with this shit plastered on my fucking forehead.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: In the summertime, I feel like Black women, we struggle
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the most with our hair in the summer months, especially
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people living in the South, because the heat is so
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: trying with any hairstyle.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I don't give a damn what kind of hairstyle you got.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to go ahead and shave my head. If
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I had a cute head shape, I promise you I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: might shave my head by balls.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Mine is a cone at the top I got a
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: cone so that ain't gonna work but I took this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: weave off and put it in the front seat and
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: put the seatbelt on this shit plenty of times in.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: The summertime come on sit.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Back sit your ass back god damn it's too.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: Hot it's too hot.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Just be the helmet in the seatbelt alright.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Y'all so listen recently did y'all see saucy santana at
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the uh there was a pride concert a pride parade
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: or something going on in texas recently and his uh
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: his commentary in regards to he didn't say black women
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he just was saying bitches and hoes but we know
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: who usually who the fuck they talking about so um
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: let me read his commentary right quick right so santana
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: told the crowd that gays run the world because when
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: them bitches need their hair done they call the gays
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: When they need a stylist, them hoes call the gays.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: When they need their makeup done, they call the gays.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: When them niggas, when that, what do you say? When
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the dog ass baby daddies, hold on. When they need
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: advice about their dog ass baby daddies, they call the gays.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He also went on to say that how, you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: gay men are the blueprint. How y'all feel about that?
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Hmm. Duplicated, never originated. No, I mean, I definitely feel
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: like a lot of men out here slaying hair, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: that shit came back from us. You know, that came
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: back from us. Give credit where it's due. You know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: that's how I feel. Growing up, it was women doing hair.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: It may have been a couple men sprinkled in, but
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: that wasn't, that's not my core where I saw where
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: men were running the show. Now, again, I, I'll give
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: them the male stylist. They doing their thing. But I
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: feel like that's far fetched, in my opinion.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I've had clients tell me that lots of clients or
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: just people in general tell me that they're women. These
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: are women only said that their favorite stylist was a man,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: gay or straight.
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: I think a lot of times for women, it just
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: makes you feel better when a man does it. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: don't know why, but that's just what I've seen in
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: the past. um I know plenty of wonderful talented female
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: hairstylists and makeup artists that do an amazing job I
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: think it is a minority for um gay men to
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: be stylists so it's like a trophy you know in
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: a sense but I think it's just so many women
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: doing hair that it's just awesome that they have a
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: man or I don't know that's my little two cents
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: I don't know I think it's exaggerated though.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would rather for a woman, I feel
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: more comfortable with sis doing my older woman doing my
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: hair just me you know because I feel like she
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: understands my hair and you know I feel like we
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: can just relate on hair and not saying a man
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: can't do it but just my preference I feel I
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: feel more comfortable coming there looking fucked up and let
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: you know a woman do my hair yeah And.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: We also know that the salon oftentimes is a damn
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: therapy office too. So I can't have the same type
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: of conversations with this male stylist that I might have
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: with my home girl slash female stylist. You know what
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? So that's another aspect of it. You know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: with Saucy Santana, you know, I really feel like this
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: is like the highest form of patriarchy possible. what we're
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: seeing right now. And I feel like a black woman
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: need to do a little bit better job at fucking
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: gatekeeping at this point, because we empower and we, we,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: not these people feel entitled and take offense by me
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: saying these people, I don't give a fuck. Okay. Okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: It's the highest form of patriarchy. Cause imagine a man
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: being able to tell a woman, bitch, I'm you because
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: The fuck is that? And that's what's happening.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: So because that's a new wave. Exactly.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: So, How could you possibly be the blueprint of anything
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: when we literally birth you niggas?
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Birth you.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: So imagine a grown man getting up there or whatever
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: he identifies as. To me, it's... Can I use this word? Heterophobic?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Is that a word?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Is that a thing? You might have made it up
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: just now.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Because it seems a little heterophobic. Are we experiencing some heterophobia?
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And is it possible for a heterosexual person to cancel
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a gay person? Because we usually see them canceling the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: fuck out of our ass for one little commentary. Can
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: we do that? Y'all scared to talk about that?
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I'm offended.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I was offended by what he said. You know, listen,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I love my gay girls, guys, whatever you identify.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I love them. I love when they do hair, they slay.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: They do. Like, even with dancing, they slay.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: They're going to dance their ass off, too.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: But.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: But what he said was offensive to me as a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: woman and as a hairstylist.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, come on now. I'm still a woman.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And we are the blueprint. We literally birth y'all. We
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: birth everybody, man or woman. We birth everybody.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So, Go ahead and drop Nicki Minaj. All you bitches
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: is my son. Drop that in there real quick.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: And your sons are my step-sons.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: That part.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You ain't my son. You my motherfucking step-son.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: So I was offended by what he said. I mean,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I get what he's trying to say, trying to hit at,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: but I mean.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's a better way to say it because we birthed you, baby.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: And it's not true either. It's just not true. You know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: that might be the fad.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Like, how can you be the blueprint?
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: The blueprint, that's not even true.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: That was a reach, you know?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: He grabbed Jesus' foot on that one.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: And he, look, he didn't apologize. He went on to
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: tweet fake woke-ass bitches. People don't care about old tweets.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: The internet have this weird thing with power, thinking they
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: have the power to cancel someone. Newsflash, you don't. Y'all
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be thinking y'all have someone by the balls about situations
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you don't give a damn about. We give a damn
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: about this situation. And we need an apology.
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: That's crazy.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned. We do. And I don't
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: need no apology from him.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It's okay. He can feel how he want to feel
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: about it. But at the end of the day, we'll
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: always be the blueprint. If we stopped fucking today, everybody
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: would die.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: And the world would end. I don't know now.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: That's the blueprint, baby. They definitely make.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: The kids in the lab, but they probably AI. They
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: ain't no fucking real humans.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: There'll be some iRobots.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: That's crazy.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence all day. But it's crazy because, you know, he's...
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Never mind.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: I'm not even going to go there, but.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Go.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Go there.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Go there. I can't always be the only one going there.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Go there.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: I love... I like his music.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: I do appreciate all the male stylists out there and
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: makeup artists, but... I mean, it's a lot of the time,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: it's like things mimicking what I do, how I wear
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: my hair, how I arch my eyebrows, you know?
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: So maybe I'm the blueprint. You know?
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: You are.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: You are.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: You are the blueprint.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like every male stylist, they look up to some,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: they idolize some woman.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, Beyonce.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: They idolize a woman. You know, so I don't understand
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: how you can be the blueprint.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: The only thing I can.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: And it's popping.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: It's birthing kids.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Look, the one thing I will give them. Okay. The
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: face beat that definitely came from the trans community. Black
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: women in particular were never wearing that much heavy ass makeup.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: And all the tricks.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: My homegirl, her daughter.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: My homegirl, her daughter FaceTime over the weekend after somebody
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: did her makeup. And I'm like, who's that? Who the
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: fuck is that? She looked like a drag queen. That's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: how heavy this makeup was. That's how heavy the contouring was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And she's a beautiful ass girl, young woman. Like, you
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: don't need that much makeup. They need that much makeup
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to look like us. But to be a natural woman,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: you don't, makeup is just supposed to like, you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: it's just supposed to be like a little enhancement.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: An enhancement.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It's not supposed to make you look like a whole
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: nother person. That's where we kind of get fucked up.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: For pictures, but to be walking around in real life?
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: It's what makes you happy.
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: That's the whole basis of the beauty industry.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: But were we always wearing that heavy makeup like that?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Were we always wearing heavy makeup like that?
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: No, but styles change.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Or did that come from that community?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: in like the 90s if you go back to early
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: 90s and 80s they were doing like strips of pink
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: hair and blue and it was like real.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Heavy that's what I'm talking about Whitney.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Was more true yeah but Whitney was more you know
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Whitney was kind of more on the other side with
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: the you know to me with the makeup and stuff
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: when I looked at us we mainly had on some
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: lip liner Eyebrows.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Eyeliner. Not even lip liner.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Eyeliner.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: A little fake mole. And then when we spice it up,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: we do a red lip. You know, that was.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You talking about, like, 90s.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, like, the 80s when they were, like, putting, like,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: heavy blush.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: And heavy blue eyeshadow on their eyes. And, like, it was...
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Hot pink. It was bright.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: But we're doing all the contouring.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I just think it just changes with the time.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: The contouring for the face hair is to give a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: higher cheekbone. Most women naturally have that cheekbone, right? So
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that lift, that doesn't come from women. That extra lift,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that nose contouring and all that shit, that's how we
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: look naturally. A lot of us.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: But not if you gain weight and you need to
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: get it back.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, my shit, if I turn to the side,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it ain't naturally like that no more.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: My shit ain't naturally like that no more.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm thankful for that.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: I'm thankful for all that contouring, yes.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, me too. Because, baby.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: A lot of the tricks you used did come from you.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah i agree with that yeah sometimes like she
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: sometimes can be a bit much but i do appreciate
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: some of those especially of this.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Part yes honey that's my favorite tammy taught me that shit.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna contour my nose because i keep my nose
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: but this chin part i thank you thank you sir
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: for a for getting me right with the chant.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: My chant, the second one don't need to be a
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: part of everything, you know?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It don't need to be a part of nothing in
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: my life, honestly.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: That second chant can go to hell.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, goodness. So let me ask y'all this.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: In the Black community, all of our Most of our
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: products and hair, it comes from hair stores that are
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: ran by Asians in our community where they don't really
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: invest any money back into the Black community. After you
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: spend that money in that hair store, that money does
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: not recirculate in our neighborhoods.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: How do y'all feel about that?
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: I don't like it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Does it make you upset?
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: It does. It's a monopoly.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: So when you go to a Black-owned hair store, the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: prices are... astronomical you know and you when you think
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: about you know people who are buying that who don't
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: go to the hair salon and buy all their products
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: and do their kids hair at home it can it
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: can't sometimes it's not affordable to always invest in the
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: black hair stores that's the toughest part because if we
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: could get more it cost us more to do business
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: right it costs more we could afford it more than
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: we would but it is unfortunate i know a lot
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: of people who have navigate their life around never going
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: to Asian owned businesses because they don't invest back into
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the black community.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I try my best. I mean, even if you open
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: a shop, you still have to go to them for
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: them products. Most everything is produced in you know, in China.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: You know, the tools and stuff that we use, maybe
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: not so much the hair products because it's like I
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of black women now have natural
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: hair care lines and it's just from natural fruits and
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: berries and roots and shit. Right. But like tools like cones,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: all this jewelry, all this stuff they do to Kate,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: even the music in the goddamn store.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: A lot.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: They got gospel music and they got rap going on
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: in the damn hair store. And if your total comes
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: out to $ 1. 12 and you don't have them two pennies,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: they will send your ass to the fucking car. You
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: can't even get two pennies from the Asians inside their stores.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I would like to challenge more black women to try
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: and shop black. There's some black online stores, which would
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: be a little bit cheaper for us to do. Maybe
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: it might take a little bit longer for you to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: get your products. But that's something we can do in
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: our community.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be mad at the Asian people in
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the black community if they put their money back into
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the community. That money circulated more in our community, but
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it doesn't. They take it to their own. Like our
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: dollar leaves instantly when we invested in that. And we
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: spend so much money in there.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: They're just now, you know, as of I'll say what,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the last 10 years or so, starting to hire black
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: women to work inside their stores. We couldn't even get
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a job in there. They follow you around the store,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: which I do.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: People steal.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. People do steal. So I don't, I can't fault
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: them for that, but fighting and putting your hands on
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: people for a couple of dollars. No.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I used to, I used to steal at the hair store.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: So your picture was up there. You had your picture.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Remember them socks with the balls on the back? Boy,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I used to rob their ass blind for them little balls.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I had ball socks to go with every outfit, bitch.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Don't play with me.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I had a red ball, blue ball.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't pay for any of that shit.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: That's the least they can do.
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: That's the least they can do.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: That's reparations, hoe. I will take these ball socks.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: I try to have everything that my clients need in
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: the salon.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Brushes, combs, satin pillowcases, styling products, whatever I use, I
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: sell so they don't have to go there. But that's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: just also just business marketing for my own self. But
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I have everything I use so.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: They can get. That helps.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Do you not get it from, do you not go
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: into like Asian online stores?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: No, my products are professional or, but I can say
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: if I order it in bulk, from somewhere, it's probably
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: going to come from China.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, everything does. So I'm not like boycotting.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: At least you're not paying that premium price though from
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: having to go to a hair store.
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: I'm a small business.
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: I'd rather my clients come to my small business and
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: support me than going to the Asian hair store and
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: buying it, even though we probably all got it somewhere
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: from the same place somewhat.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: But my products are professional and they do not come
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: from China. But brushes, combs, I don't know where they
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: come from.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: They probably do.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Y'all know they passed that last year. They passed
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: like the, it's not called the Asian hate bill. It's
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: like the COVID, the COVID anti-hate bill, but it's for Asians,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Island Pacific, Pacific Island, whatever. Right. Pacific. You know, I'm
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Geechee bitch.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: So, and they paint the narrative that as black people,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: that's been attacking the Asian community when we clearly see
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: that law came into play after a white man shot
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: up a massage spa in Atlanta, right? If you are
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: that afraid of black people, why are y'all still in
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: our communities? I'm confused. If there's really a problem between
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Asians and black people, how are your businesses still thriving
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: in black communities?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so much them that paint
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the narrative that it's black people as it is the media.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it's like Asians and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: black community is like, Oh, it's the black folks. No,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a small sample size to see how
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: they feel about us by the way they treat us
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: in their establishments.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Y'all don't think so?
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: No, I have, I have Asian clients. I feel like,
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: I don't think that they're afraid of us at all.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: I think they look at us dead in our eyes
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: like regular people. I think that that's just something that
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: is a narrative that's put out there.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It's like white supremacy, right? I think it's something that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: people just want to push at times to make it
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: another thing that we're doing wrong. But no, in general,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: when I walk into the hair store, I never feel
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: like they're afraid at all. I mean, sometimes I feel
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: like my business isn't welcomed. or wanted or appreciated. That's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: the word, appreciated. But I never felt like they were afraid.
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: I don't think so.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Afraid, right. And then I have Asian friends.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I have Asian homegirls and I don't receive that from
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: the people I know, obviously.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of them, like, low-key be kind of like niggas.
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: I have an Asian friend and she's definitely one of
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: the realest. I love her. So.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a real narrative.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: It's more than likely, definitely something the media is pushing,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: a narrative, for sure. How do y'all feel about, did
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: y'all see this video on Instagram? This white girl, her
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: name is Alex Von Dutch. And this is something, Tam,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: we could have talked about in Stupid Internet News, Chad,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: this bitch, a couple weeks ago. But she's seen on,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: she's like TikTok. I don't know if she's a singer, whatever.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: She has music in her handle. on TikTok and Instagram,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: but I don't know what exactly she does, but she's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: on TikTok mostly. And she had that video posing a
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: question to black women. It went viral. She was asking
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: why black women don't feel supported by black men. Did
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: you guys see that? But she's seen, she has single
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: ease twists in her head. Like she has like a
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: black hairstyle, right? And she was basically posing all these questions.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Supposedly she's a Kevin Samuel supporter. Also, she says he
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: was her mentor. She would talk to him often. So
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: it's almost like people are creating platforms off of triggering
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: black women about whatever. Maybe some fucking hair, our relationships
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: with black men. all this shit, but how do y'all
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: feel about, and she's appropriate in playing a black woman
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: while doing this. I feel very supported by a black man.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So she's definitely not talking to me. I think that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: people try to push a narrative once again. I mean,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: do y'all feel.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: Supported by black men?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So I don't, yeah, I do. I think that as
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: a collective, maybe there's something there as a, you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Because you know, there's the whole thing where black women
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: are the least, are the most disrespected, unprotected, all that,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: that little, you know, Malcolm X said it, right? And
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: people hang on to that till this day. I'm not,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have a victim mentality. So to me, that's
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: like victimhood. But I can understand where some women may
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: feel that way. I can understand that. But it's still
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: some shit that's supposed to be discussed in our community. Like,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I don't need a white woman saying, questioning me about
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: my relationship with black men. And it was mostly white
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: women responding to her. And this Asian woman, because she
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: actually did another TikTok and said, why are 70% of
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: black children in America raised by single mothers? And an
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Asian woman responded to her ass and said, you need
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: to be worried about all the serial killers and rapists
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and mass murderers that are being created in a two
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: family white homes as opposed to being in black people's business.
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: That was a snapback and I felt that.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I mean those are good questions right I mean those
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: are things that we definitely need to figure out what's
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: going on in our.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Communities but why are you asking that question and what.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: You gonna do with the answer right like what are
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: you about to do Get your ass beat up in
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the street.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Those are actually true statements sometimes. But that's not your business.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Why do you care? And what are you going to
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: do when you pick that bone up? What are you
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: going to carry it to? What are you going to
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: do to help the situation?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: So are you just trying to be messy at that point?
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: And you're just trying to stare the pot? Because, okay,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: that's Black problems. Let us worry about our own shit.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, what you going to do with it?
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: It was a clickbait, exactly.
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: It got people engaging and that's all they wanted was
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: the engagement.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: A Black man commented to her and asked her if
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: she was Black. And she responded back to him and
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: she said, by heart or by skin color?
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: So clearly she's identifying.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, Rachel Dozen.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly where I'm going. And in another video, she says,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: what does she have to do for the black community
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: to trust her? And she says, even though I'm not black,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I identify with you. Again, we need to do a
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: better job at gatekeeping. These motherfuckers feel entitled to all
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: things black women. If you want to get the check
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: on social media, what they do they they make like
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: caricatures out of black women they throw a wig on
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: do our head movements talk shit like it's they're making
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: fun but a black woman oftentimes can't become a millionaire
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: or get a million follows off of naturally just being
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: herself but a white woman pretending to be us will
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: get support from the black community and the white.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Community I see a lot of black women got a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: million followers being themselves.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You don't think? You don't feel like that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Let's take the little catch me outside little girl, for example.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Why should she be famous?
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: Because young people follow her. I don't follow her. Young
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: people have a million followers. Easy. But also, she's a character.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: People want to see someone act a fool.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: And what character is that? She's the character of a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: specific type of Black woman. She does.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: She does. She does.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: But also there are Black women being themselves that have
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: a million followers and that's why people do imitate those
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: accounts because they know it generates content.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: You know, people want it.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Even on Etsy, there's a million fake Black-owned businesses on Etsy.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: They're not Black-owned businesses. They just have, like, Black girl
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: magic of their own. it is something, I guess it's flattery,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: but people.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: Are imitating us.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is very interesting. And I feel like we
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: can go all day long with a black hair topic.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Cause it just goes into all so many different things.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: When you start talking about black women and hair relationships,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: growing up natural, we, we got to stop somewhere.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: So I want us to do a dumb bitch story.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Dumb bitch story?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: You are so dumb.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: or twice. So you've listened to the show. We always
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: have our guests share a dumb bitch story. It doesn't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: have to be about hair. I mean, if you could
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: relate to hair, that would be great. But if you
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: could think of a moment you were ever played or...
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Somebody tried to play you.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Or ran them up. Can you share a.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Time?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: Me? I don't know. You know mine. Do you have
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: one for me? You can. It is what it is
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: at this point.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Damn, you been keeping tallying her dumb bitch activity for her, Tam?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: You know that one time. I have not. Now, you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: know that one time you was really a dumb bitch, bitch.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: You remember?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: I've been smart.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Your whole life she was smart her whole life.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Y'all except for that one time I can tell you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a story about us just being dumb bitches together.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: Okay that's a good one go ahead.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: It was Easter alright this is like in our 20s
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: it was Easter Sunday morning and we had been out
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: clubbing all night 6am 6am it was people getting up
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: ready to go praise the lord and thank him for
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: resurrecting and stuff and we drunk And she was like,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: stop and get gas.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: And I forgot she said that, and I wasn't paying attention.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I was driving her car, and we broke down on
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: the side of the highway with no gas.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: And some strange.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: White people pulled over and picked us up, took us
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to the gas station, and we got a gas can.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: And I was out there smoking, a black and mild.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Filling up the gas can.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Dumb bitch.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: About to blow my motherfucking self up.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Listen and we got a gallon of gas and people
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: took us back to our car and then we made
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: it home that was so dumb.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: It was that was dumb but let's talk it was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: a strip club not just a regular club yeah we
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: was and Tammy asked for 20 on pump one and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: they're like it's just one gallon for the can you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: can't get 20.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: And And I was so confused. I'm like, why the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: fuck I can't get 20? I need 20. It's like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: it's a gallon can, bitch. I'm like, so put 20
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: She's like, wake up, bitch. Your car broke down. I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: was like, did you put gas in it?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I forgot. Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: That was a fun night.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Shame, shame, shame.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: We didn't go to church.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: We did not make it to church I prayed on
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: the side of the road before we got in the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: car with those white folks we did that was Grace
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: got yeah but they were so nice they were so
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: nice and they were young they were teenagers or young
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: adults they were very young Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: They were younger than us. I feel like, like, where
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: y'all coming from this late?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: They're probably going, they're probably going to church.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: No, they was not going to church. They didn't look
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: like it. They didn't seem like the churchy type. But okay.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: That was our, she got some dumb bitch stories.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: She just ain't going to share with y'all.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: So, uh, Tamika, well, before we close out, uh, do
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you have a dumb bitch story to share with us?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I just recently was a dumb bitch. You know what
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? Now I'm a divorce bitch. So I guess,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: you know, that goes hand in hand. But I remember
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: it was one time where, you know, basically I, and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: actually I looked a little stupid.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: This is an older story. Let me tell this one.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I ain't going to go too current. So me and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: an ex, you know, we had broken up or whatever. So,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: he picked me up and we went out to eat.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: And me being messy, his girlfriend, I was like, eh,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: I'm out with y'all nigga, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: We out to eat and this and that. I'm sending,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: I'm sending, like, pictures. I'm sneaking pictures and all.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: This, right?
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  Speaker 4: So, she calls him, right? And basically, he was looking
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  Speaker 4: at his phone. He didn't answer. So, he come to text,
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  Speaker 4: just flooding through. So, Do you know this nigga got
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  Speaker 4: up and left my ass right there at that restaurant?
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  Speaker 2: Rightfully so. Rightfully so. He didn't say nothing.
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  Speaker 3: He just got up and walked away.
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  Speaker 4: That nigga politely got up and left my ass sitting
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  Speaker 4: at that restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I want my nigga to do.
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  Speaker 7: Stupid.
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  Speaker 5: Do you hear me?
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  Speaker 4: I felt so dumb. But I can laugh about that
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  Speaker 4: shit now. Like, I can really laugh about that now.
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  Speaker 4: But I was at.
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  Speaker 5: And we was at IHOP.
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  Speaker 2: Not the IHOP. We was at IHOP. So I'm on
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  Speaker 2: the phone with my friend like, bitch.
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  Speaker 5: Come get me. Bitch, they can melt me at IHOP.
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  Speaker 4: She was like, alright, I'll go my way. So literally,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sitting at everybody's see to me everybody knew what
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: was going on maybe that would be me being guilty
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  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting.
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  Speaker 5: There in front of our hot window right.
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  Speaker 4: Home cause he drove but yeah that's my dumb bitch
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  Speaker 4: story cause I kinda still was messing with him after
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  Speaker 4: that after this nigga left me at.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Our house.
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  Speaker 4: But that told me to stay in my damn place
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  Speaker 4: I ain't had no business texting that girl telling her
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  Speaker 4: what was going on that's my fault.
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  Speaker 3: Right You had no business with her man.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
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  Speaker 5: You were my man first.
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  Speaker 2: That's y'all man. Hell no.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't apologize when she was hunting on him.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: No, ma'am.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I was a dumb bitch, a stupid bitch.
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  Speaker 3: All that wrapped up.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: No! I had to pee! Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Luckily it was out hot. I was so embarrassed. I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: was so embarrassed.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be sending a bitch some shit. I'm
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: sitting there IHOP with a nigga. This ain't no Ruth Chris.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: This ain't no Morton Steakhouse. IHOP. Nasty hop.
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  Speaker 4: In my defense, it didn't matter where we was at.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: I was in there with her nigga. I just needed
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: her to know that. I didn't give a fuck. We
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: could have been at Taco Bell and I needed to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: let her know that I got my lip back.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: But the laugh was on me.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: What's your sign? What the hell?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Sagittarius.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Both of y'all Sagittarius. Yeah. All right, y'all.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So please, if you have anything going on that you
• 1:07:46
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• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: anything that you want to share with everyone, please go
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: ahead and plug yourself right now.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: Okay, well, thank you guys for having me, AJ and Tam.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: I am on Instagram at stylistahaircompany.com. S-T-Y-L-I-S-T-A-H-A-I-R-C-O.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: All right, y'all.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And she do that Gina curl if y'all want that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: curly hair without the wet.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: That resilient curl. Right, without the wet. Yeah, it's nice.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: This has been so much fun, guys. And thanks, AJ
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: and Tam, for having me. so you can follow me
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  Speaker 4: on Instagram still I had to think only one Miss
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  Speaker 4: Parker on Instagram okay.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Hey Miss Parker so you.
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  Speaker 5: Can follow me on Instagram you know so It's been fun.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much for coming on and talking hair
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  Speaker 3: We got to have y'all back when it get cold.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about hair.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: In the winter.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: My winter hair, summer hair, all that shit is all
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: the same.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: Mine is all the same all year long.
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• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:35
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• 1:09:40
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• 1:09:41
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• 1:09:44
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