Latest / Reformed Thinking / The Prophecies of Christ | Jonathan Edwards
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- 0:00Picture this you know, just imagine for a second that you
- 0:03were living in a massive ancient city.
- 0:05OK, I am picturing. It and for an entire year when
- 0:08you look up at the night sky, there is a literal glowing fiery
- 0:12sword just hanging there directly over the city walls.
- 0:16Oh wow, that is terrifying. Right.
- 0:19It does not move at all. It just hangs there like the
- 0:21silent, terrifying omen. Yeah, and then one evening just
- 0:25before sunset, you lookout and see actual Chariots and armed
- 0:28battalions hovering in the clouds.
- 0:30Look at Mirage or something. Yeah, but surrounding the cities
- 0:33in the distance, and I mean, it sounds like a dark fantasy novel
- 0:36for it really does. But these are the actual
- 0:38historical records written by a hostile military commander,
- 0:42documenting the fall of his own nation.
- 0:45Welcome to reformed thinking. Glad to be here.
- 0:47You know, usually when we evaluate a historical figure,
- 0:50there is this sort of expectation of looking primarily
- 0:53at their moral teachings, right? Sure, we look at their
- 0:56philosophy, maybe the nice things they said and we debate
- 0:59their ideas, but it is all very subjective.
- 1:01It is. It relies heavily on personal
- 1:03interpretation. Highly subjective, but what if
- 1:07you could prove the validity of a historical figure not just by
- 1:10the comforting words they spoke, but by the statistically
- 1:13impossible precision of their predictions?
- 1:16Now that is a huge shift in perspective.
- 1:18Right. What if we could look at history
- 1:20like an engineering schematic, where the blueprint matches the
- 1:23building without a single millimeter of error?
- 1:26That changes the entire conversation, honestly.
- 1:29We are no longer talking about just philosophy.
- 1:31We are talking about verifiable hard data.
- 1:35Spot on. And that is our destination
- 1:37today. For you listening, we have laid
- 1:39out a massive stack of historical notes from Jonathan
- 1:42Edwards. Specifically his writings on the
- 1:44prophecies of Christ. Yeah, and for those of you who
- 1:47might just know Edwards as like an old preacher, it really helps
- 1:50to understand that in his private notebooks, he was
- 1:52essentially doing the mathematical scratchpad work for
- 1:55his theology. He was a highly analytical
- 1:57thinker. So our mission for this deep
- 1:59dive is to unpack Edwards's arguments on how Jesus
- 2:02demonstrated his divine authority through prophecy.
- 2:05We are going to look into the highly specific predictions, the
- 2:08shocking historical fulfillments, and the massive
- 2:12theological shifts that followed.
- 2:14So if you are ready for some surprising facts and a few
- 2:18serious aha moments, let's just jump, right?
- 2:21In I am really looking forward to this.
- 2:23Edwards is known for his rigorous logic.
- 2:26Oh yeah, and the way he structures this argument is just
- 2:29staggering. It really is.
- 2:31He builds this cumulative case that basically forces the reader
- 2:35to confront the mathematical and historical improbability of
- 2:38these events occurring by chance.
- 2:40OK, let's unpack this from the start.
- 2:42Before we even look at the specific events that were
- 2:44predicted, we have to examine the highly unusual manner in
- 2:48which the predictions were made. Right, the style of delivery.
- 2:51Yeah, deep in his notes, Edwards makes a huge point about this.
- 2:53We need to look at the anatomy of authority.
- 2:55Here. What stands out to me here is
- 2:57the contrast Edwards draws between the ancient Old
- 3:01Testament prophets and Jesus. OK, break that down for us.
- 3:05Well, if you read the ancient prophets, you know guys like
- 3:08Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, they always introduce their visions
- 3:12with a very specific formula. Like a sign off or an intro?
- 3:15An intro, they would say, hear the word of the Lord, or thus
- 3:19sayeth the Lord. Oh right, making it crystal
- 3:22clear that they were just the messengers.
- 3:23Precise. They were taking zero credit for
- 3:26the information. It is.
- 3:28It's the difference between a mail carrier reading a letter
- 3:31from the king in the town square versus the king himself standing
- 3:35on the balcony issuing a royal decree.
- 3:37That is a great analogy. Like the mail carrier says, the
- 3:40king says taxes are going up. They want you to know they're
- 3:43just reading the memo. Don't shoot the messenger.
- 3:46Yeah, they were conduits, but Jesus operates entirely
- 3:49differently. How so He.
- 3:50Does not use that formula at all.
- 3:53Instead, he uses the phrase, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
- 3:57Right, or in the original Greek, Amen, Amen.
- 4:00I say to you, He speaks on his own authority.
- 4:02Which is a huge departure. It is furthermore, Edwards
- 4:06points out, that Jesus predicted events as things that he would
- 4:09personally bring to pass. The king himself issuing the
- 4:13decree, he says things like I will raise it up, referring to
- 4:17his own resurrection or, you know, I have authority to lay my
- 4:20life down and I have authority to take it again.
- 4:23He even says he will personally send the Holy Ghost.
- 4:26He tells his disciples that whatever they ask in His name,
- 4:30He will do it. He claims he will give them a
- 4:33mouth and wisdom that their adversaries will not be able to
- 4:36resist. He is claiming total sovereignty
- 4:39over future events. But I want to pause and think
- 4:41about the strategy here. Let's say I'm running a massive
- 4:46historical scam. OK, playing devil's advocate,
- 4:49yeah. This seems like a terrible way
- 4:51to do it. Why is that?
- 4:52Well, if I want people to follow me, I want plausible
- 4:56deniability. I want to say God might do this
- 4:59or the heavens will move in mysterious ways because.
- 5:02You have an out. Right, so if it fails I can
- 5:04blame a lack of faith or mysterious divine will, but by
- 5:08saying I will personally rise from the dead or I will
- 5:11personally send the Spirit, he is backing himself into a
- 5:15corner. He really is.
- 5:16Doesn't that set an impossibly high bar that would immediately
- 5:19expose a fraud? It absolutely does.
- 5:21The margin for error is 0. 0. If you connect this to the
- 5:26broader context of Jewish law at the time, God established very
- 5:31strict rules in Deuteronomy chapter 18 for identifying false
- 5:35prophets. I remember this, the rules were
- 5:37pretty harsh. The rule was simple and brutal.
- 5:40If the thing does not come to pass, the prophet is false and
- 5:44the penalty is death by stoning. Wow, you do not get a second
- 5:48chance to clarify your vision. The stakes were ultimate.
- 5:51You were putting your life on the line every time you make a
- 5:53prediction. Ultimate stakes.
- 5:55Additionally, Edwards brings in Isaiah chapter 41 where God
- 5:59actually mocks the idols of the heathens.
- 6:01Oh, I love that passage. Yeah, he challenges these false
- 6:04gods to foretell the future. God frames the foreseeing of the
- 6:07future as a strictly divine prerogative.
- 6:09He basically calls them out. He does, God says to the idols,
- 6:13Show the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that
- 6:16ye are gods. So if we're telling, the future
- 6:18is the ultimate litmus test for divinity in the Jewish context.
- 6:21It is the only test that matters in that specific regard.
- 6:24Which means claiming you can do it is either the height of
- 6:27madness or the absolute truth. And Jesus goes a step further.
- 6:30Oh, right, the disciples. Yes.
- 6:33He promises to give his disciples the ability to
- 6:36prophecy through the Holy Spirit.
- 6:38He says the Spirit will show you things to come.
- 6:41He is essentially franchising his prophetic authority to a
- 6:44bunch of fishermen. Which multiplies the risk
- 6:47exponentially. Think about the liability there.
- 6:50Exactly. Yeah, I mean, if he is a fraud,
- 6:52he is now relying on a dozen other guys to maintain the
- 6:55illusion of prophetic foresight. Good luck with that, right?
- 6:59Edwards argues that if Jesus were a false claimant,
- 7:02Providence would have exposed him immediately.
- 7:04The intense scrutiny of his generation would have caught.
- 7:06Him. Oh completely.
- 7:08They were armed with the strict rules of Deuteronomy 18.
- 7:12They would have crushed the movement the moment one of these
- 7:15highly specific, personally guaranteed predictions failed.
- 7:18And the generation he lived in was not gullible.
- 7:20They were watching him like. Hawks.
- 7:21They wanted a reason to dismiss him.
- 7:23And he hands them the ultimate test.
- 7:26He basically says watch what happens next.
- 7:28I am guaranteeing it. Yeah, it really is a terrible
- 7:31strategy for a con artist, but a perfectly logical one for
- 7:35someone who actually holds the authority they claim.
- 7:37That leads us to the historical fulfillments.
- 7:39Because he did not just make vague predictions about a
- 7:43spiritual Kingdom in the clouds. No, he made terrifyingly
- 7:46concrete predictions about the physical world.
- 7:49Let's transition to the devastation of 8070 then,
- 7:52because Jesus set the bar incredibly high, and the
- 7:55destruction of Jerusalem is where that bar was met with
- 7:58chilling accuracy. It is the most verifiable
- 8:01historical fulfillment in this entire stack of notes.
- 8:04So walk. Us through the records.
- 8:06In the records of Matthew and Luke, Jesus predicts the total
- 8:09destruction of Jerusalem, not just a defeat in battle, but a
- 8:12complete leveling of the city. He says, Your house is left unto
- 8:15you desolate. Yes, and speaks of enemies
- 8:18casting a trench about the city, compassing it round and keeping
- 8:21them in on every side. And he gives a timeline too.
- 8:24He states unequivocally that this will all happen before that
- 8:28specific generation passes away. But it was not just a broad
- 8:32prediction of doom. You know, anyone could say this
- 8:35city will fall someday. True, but Edwards outlines 8
- 8:39highly specific signs that Jesus said would precede this
- 8:43destruction. He basically gave them a
- 8:45checklist. A very detailed checklist.
- 8:47False messiahs, rumors of wars, famines, pestilences,
- 8:52earthquakes, and fearful sights from heaven.
- 8:54Let's match those up, because Edwards maps this perfectly to
- 8:58the historical record. Right.
- 8:59Specifically under the Roman emperors Caligula, Claudius and
- 9:02Nero. Let's look at the context.
- 9:04During this period, the historian Josephus records that
- 9:07several impostors arose. Claiming they would rescue the
- 9:09people from the Roman yoke. Yes, checking off the false
- 9:12messiah's box. Then came the rumors of war.
- 9:15Caligula, right? Yeah, Emperor.
- 9:17Caligula demanded his statue be placed in the Jewish Temple.
- 9:20For the Jews, this was the ultimate blasphemy.
- 9:22It almost triggered a massive suicidal rebellion.
- 9:26They offered their own necks to the Roman swords rather than see
- 9:28it happen. But Caligula died suddenly.
- 9:30He did, blowing the storm over temporarily, but the societal
- 9:35anxiety was just off the charts. The tension was building, and
- 9:39then the natural disaster started hitting right on
- 9:41schedule under. Claudius Caesar A massive famine
- 9:44hit Judea. And pestilences always follow
- 9:47famine. Because malnourished bodies
- 9:49cannot fight off disease, earthquakes struck in various
- 9:52places during the reigns of Claudius and Nero.
- 9:55And what about the wars? Nation literally rose against
- 9:58nation, with thousands of Jews slain in Alexandria and Babylon
- 10:03in brutal ethnic conflicts. So everything Jesus outlined was
- 10:07ticking off 1 by 1. 1 by 1. And then we get to the fearful
- 10:11sights from heaven. This is the part of the deep
- 10:13dive that really blew my mind. It is pretty shocking.
- 10:16You mentioned the historian Josephus earlier.
- 10:19Let's bring in the details Edwards pulls from him, because
- 10:21Josephus recorded things that are frankly terrifying.
- 10:25Like the fiery sword you mentioned at the top of the
- 10:26show. Yeah.
- 10:28Walk us through what Josephus actually wrote.
- 10:30He wrote about a fiery sword that hungover the city of
- 10:33Jerusalem, and it did not just appear for a night, it hung
- 10:38there for an entire year. Just suspended.
- 10:40Yes, he also describes a comet that's shown so brightly in the
- 10:44temple and about the altar that it looked like daytime in the
- 10:47middle of the night. And the Chariots hovering in the
- 10:49air. When I read this part of
- 10:50Edward's notes, I honestly had to pause.
- 10:53It feels unbelievable, but Josephus records that one
- 10:56evening before sunset, Chariots and armed battalions were seen
- 10:59in the clouds encompassing the cities.
- 11:02He notes that the people who saw it were terrified and it was
- 11:04widely reported. Very widely reported.
- 11:07OK, here is where my skeptical alarm bells ring.
- 11:10Let's hear it. It is incredibly convenient to
- 11:12have a historian back up these highly specific, almost
- 11:16supernatural claims. Sure, if I am looking at this
- 11:19objectively, I have to ask. Wait, is Josephus a Christian
- 11:22sympathizer? That is the most logical
- 11:24question to ask. Like, is this just a Christian
- 11:26writing a history book decades later to make Jesus look good
- 11:29after the fact? That would neatly explain the
- 11:33perfect alignment between the prophecy and the historical
- 11:36record. That is a fair concern, but this
- 11:39raises A crucial detail that Edwards emphasizes heavily.
- 11:43OK, Josephus was absolutely not a Christian.
- 11:46Really. No, he was a Jewish historian, a
- 11:48Pharisee and a military commander who actually fought
- 11:52against the Romans in Galilee before surrendering and working
- 11:55for. Them wow OK he.
- 11:56Actively avoided mentioning the Christian name or Jesus whenever
- 12:00possible. He had 0 theological motivation
- 12:03to validate the prophecies of Jesus.
- 12:04Zero. So he is a completely hostile
- 12:06witness. If anything, he had every reason
- 12:09to suppress anything that might make the Christians look right.
- 12:12Because the Christians were seen as a rogue heretical sect.
- 12:15Correct. His historical account of the
- 12:17Jewish War is considered highly objective it.
- 12:20Is one of the most detailed ancient histories we possess.
- 12:23He is writing to document the tragic end of his own nation.
- 12:27When he describes these signs in the sky, he's lamenting that his
- 12:31people ignored them. He blamed the people.
- 12:34Yeah, he says, this wretched people believed imposters and
- 12:37counterfeits, but those great signs and prodigies which did
- 12:41forerun the desolation, they neither minded nor believed.
- 12:44That brings a heavy, tragic weight to the whole thing.
- 12:47It really does. And the tragedy only deepens
- 12:49when you look at the poetic irony Edwards highlights
- 12:52regarding the siege itself. The timing is incredible.
- 12:55Right. The Romans, led by Titus, began
- 12:58the siege of Jerusalem at the Passover.
- 13:00The very season Jesus was crucified.
- 13:03The city was packed with pilgrims for the festival We.
- 13:05Are talking about hundreds of thousands of extra people inside
- 13:08the walls. This massive population swell
- 13:11rapidly accelerated the famine when the Roman siege walls went
- 13:14up. The food ran out almost
- 13:16immediately. And Edwards points out this grim
- 13:18detail. During the siege, the Romans
- 13:20were crucifying up to 500 Jews a day outside the walls. 500 a
- 13:25day. They did this until they
- 13:26literally ran out of wood for the crosses and the surrounding
- 13:29countryside. It is a horrifying mirror to the
- 13:32crowd's cry decades earlier to crucify him.
- 13:36And the people who had bought Jesus for 30 pieces of silver,
- 13:40their descendants were sold into slavery by the Romans at an even
- 13:44cheaper rate. Because the sleeve market was so
- 13:47flooded with Jewish captives. It is a terrifying symmetry.
- 13:50It is the brutal reality of historical consequence.
- 13:54Josephus estimates that 1,000,000 people died from
- 13:57famine and the sword during the siege.
- 13:59A million. People and the factional
- 14:01fighting inside the city was so severe that Jewish zealots
- 14:05actually burned their own food supplies to force the moderates
- 14:08to fight the Romans. It led to masturbation.
- 14:11It was unparalleled devastation. Which makes me wonder, why was
- 14:15there no profit to warn the Jews of this specific destruction?
- 14:18What do you mean? Well, during the Babylonian
- 14:20captivity centuries earlier, God sent Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Habaka.
- 14:24True, they were shouting from the rooftops that Babylon was
- 14:27coming. They gave warnings for years.
- 14:28Why was there no traditional prophet for Rome?
- 14:31Edwards addresses this directly. He notes that God was silent for
- 14:34about 500 years before sending Jesus.
- 14:37A 500 year gap, yes. There was a perfect silence
- 14:40regarding this specific massive Roman desolation.
- 14:44Why? Because the warning was
- 14:45delivered by the Prophet of Prophets, God did not send a
- 14:49standard messenger because He sent His Son.
- 14:51The warning was given with maximum authority.
- 14:54And accompanied by miracles. And the fact that God preserves
- 14:57such an incredibly detailed historical record of this event
- 15:01through a non Christian like Josephus allows later
- 15:05generations like us to verify the precision of the warning.
- 15:09We do not have to take a leap of faith that Jerusalem sell
- 15:11exactly how Jesus said it would. We have the receipts from the
- 15:15Romans and the Jewish historians.
- 15:16The physical destruction of the city was horrifying.
- 15:18Yes. Yeah, the loss of life was
- 15:20staggering. But the physical demolition is
- 15:22really only half the story. The physical burning of the
- 15:24temple wasn't just a loss of architecture, it was the literal
- 15:28burning of their ability to follow the Law of Moses.
- 15:31Which brings us to the unseen demolition that happened in the
- 15:34rubble. The theological shockwave of
- 15:378070 altered the entire globe. It changed everything.
- 15:41And you might be asking, why should you, the listener, care
- 15:44about a building burning down 2000 years ago?
- 15:47Because it basically birthed the modern concept of religion.
- 15:51Jesus did not just predict a political war, he predicted the
- 15:55abolition of an entire religious dispensation.
- 15:58Let's define that term for the listener.
- 16:00When we say dispensation, we mean an era, a specific way God
- 16:03administers His household. So the mosaic system was a
- 16:06dispensation. Yes, with all its dietary laws,
- 16:09sacrifices and temple rituals. When Jesus said to the Samaritan
- 16:13woman, The hour cometh when ye shall neither in this mountain
- 16:17nor yet at Jerusalem worship the Father, He was announcing a
- 16:20total paradigm shift. Let's break down the mechanics
- 16:24of why the destruction of the temple was a fatal blow to that
- 16:26system. They lost the building, sure,
- 16:28but why couldn't they just rebuild it later or, I don't
- 16:31know, sacrifice animals in their backyards?
- 16:33The law was credibly strict about this.
- 16:36The temple was the only authorized location for the
- 16:39sacrificial system. So no backyard altars.
- 16:43Strictly forbidden. It was the only authorized
- 16:45slaughterhouse for Finn. You could not just build an
- 16:48altar wherever you wanted. So when the Romans burned the
- 16:51temple down and made it desolate, they halted the core
- 16:54mechanism of Jewish worship. They did, but the permanent
- 16:58fatal blow actually has to do with the genealogical records.
- 17:01Ah, right, the dispersion of the Jews into all nations, which
- 17:04Jesus also explicitly predicted. When the city was destroyed, the
- 17:09records kept in the temple were incinerated.
- 17:11Gone. Forever gone, the surviving Jews
- 17:14were scattered across the known world.
- 17:16This meant that the tribal lineages were completely
- 17:18scrambled and lost. Walk us through why that is the
- 17:22nail in the coffin. Well, to have a legitimate
- 17:24priest, you must be able to prove direct descent for the
- 17:27tribe of Levi. Specifically the family of
- 17:29Aaron, Yes. Once those genealogical records
- 17:32went up in smoke and the people intermingled in the diaspora, it
- 17:35became physically and legally impossible to ever uphold the
- 17:38ceremonial law again. Because you can't verify
- 17:41anyone's lineage. Right.
- 17:43You cannot appoint A legitimate priest today because nobody can
- 17:47conclusively prove they are from the line of Aaron.
- 17:50And without a priest. You cannot offer a legitimate
- 17:52sacrifice without sacrifice. The entire our mosaic system is
- 17:56permanently frozen. Edwards notes that this blurring
- 17:59of the lineages blotted out the families of Aaron and Levi
- 18:02forever. It is like a City Council not
- 18:05only demolishing a massive municipal building, but
- 18:08intentionally burning the original blueprints and then
- 18:11firing the architects and outlawing the specific tools
- 18:14needed to rebuild it. The scaffolding is gone and the
- 18:18means to recreate it are gone forever.
- 18:20That is a highly accurate way to visualize.
- 18:22It it's permanent. And to illustrate the finality
- 18:24of this, Edwards cites an observation by a theologian
- 18:27named Mr. Charnock. What did Charnock notice?
- 18:30Charnock points out an incredible historical reality.
- 18:34The custom of animal sacrifice was not just a Jewish thing.
- 18:37Oh, right, it was universally practiced by almost all nations.
- 18:41Time out her mind as he puts. It so everyone was doing it.
- 18:44The Greeks, The Romans, The Babylonians, they all sacrificed
- 18:48animals to their gods. It was the standard religious
- 18:51practice globally. But since the time of Christ,
- 18:54yeah, and specifically following the events of the 1st century,
- 18:57that universal custom has dwindled away and ceased among
- 19:01almost all nations. The entire globe just stopped
- 19:04sacrificing animals. Almost entirely.
- 19:06We take it for granted today that religion involves singing,
- 19:09praying and listening to a sermon.
- 19:12But for thousands of years, religion meant blood.
- 19:15It meant slaughtering an animal. And then, historically speaking,
- 19:19it just stops. The theological shockwave did
- 19:22not just dismantle the Jewish Temple, it disrupted the
- 19:25sacrificial impulse of the human race.
- 19:27I have to play devil's advocate here for a second.
- 19:29Go for it. Could a skeptic argue that this
- 19:32was all just inevitable politics?
- 19:34How so? Judea was a volatile region.
- 19:37The Jews hated the Romans. The Romans were brutal and had
- 19:40zero tolerance for rebellion. Anyone with decent political
- 19:44awareness could have guessed that eventually the Romans would
- 19:47get tired of the insurrections and come crush the city.
- 19:49That is a common objection. Is it really divine
- 19:52foreknowledge or just astute political commentary by Jesus?
- 19:56It is a reasonable objection on the surface, but Edwards
- 19:59counters it by pointing to what he calls the spiritual
- 20:02signatures on the event. Spiritual signatures, yes.
- 20:06This was not a standard political conquest.
- 20:09The timing of the calamities was far too precise.
- 20:11Like the Passover thing? Exactly.
- 20:14Edwards notes that the worst of the slaughter and destruction
- 20:17frequently fell on the Sabbath day and during the great
- 20:19festivals. When the maximum number of
- 20:22worshippers were gathered. They were gathered expecting
- 20:24divine protection because they were observing the law.
- 20:27And that's when the hammer fell. Right.
- 20:29This indicates A targeted dismantling of a religious
- 20:31system. God was showing in real time
- 20:34that these festivals and Sabbath's no longer held their
- 20:37ancient protective covenant status.
- 20:39It wasn't random. No.
- 20:41Edwards argues that this was a deliberate shift by the moral
- 20:44governor of the universe, ending the era of the physical,
- 20:47localized temple and replacing it with a spiritual, rational
- 20:51service fit for all nations. A rational service fit for all
- 20:54nations. That phrase carries so much
- 20:56weight. It really does.
- 20:58It means the religion was no longer tied to one specific zip
- 21:01code in the Middle East, It was untethered and that.
- 21:04Untethering was structurally necessary if Christianity was
- 21:08going to be a global faith. It could not be dependent on a
- 21:11single physical altar in Jerusalem.
- 21:13Because you can't have believers in Great Britain taking a boat
- 21:16to Judea every time they need to offer a sacrifice.
- 21:19Exactly. The destruction of the temple
- 21:22forced the final break. The old system was permanently
- 21:25shut down, proving that the era of the Messiah had arrived.
- 21:29While the old system was being torn down in a fiery
- 21:32catastrophe, a new system was facing impossible odds.
- 21:36The early church. Right.
- 21:38And I want to shift our focus here to the prophecies regarding
- 21:41the fate of the early Christians themselves, because the story of
- 21:44the Gospel inside the Roman machine is the story of an
- 21:47utterly unlikely triumph. Jesus was incredibly candid with
- 21:51his followers about what was coming.
- 21:53He didn't sugarcoat it. He did not sell them prosperity
- 21:55gospel. He predicted massive
- 21:57discouragements. He told them they would be hated
- 21:59of all nations for his name's sake.
- 22:01He predicted they would be brought before kings and rulers.
- 22:05He even gave them highly specific predictions about their
- 22:07own death. Walk us through those
- 22:09predictions. Well, he predicted that James
- 22:11and John, the sons of Zebedee, would drink of his cup.
- 22:15Meaning they would face martyrdom.
- 22:17Yes, we see James killed with a sword in the book of Acts.
- 22:20And Peter? He predicted the specific manner
- 22:23of Peter's death. Jesus told Peter that when he
- 22:27was old he would stretch forth his hands, and another would
- 22:31gird him and carry him where he would not want to go.
- 22:34Which everyone listening at the time understood as a clear
- 22:36reference to crucifixion. And historical records indicate
- 22:40Peter was indeed crucified in Rome in his old age.
- 22:44About 40 years after the prediction, right?
- 22:46But the physical persecution from the state was really only
- 22:49one layer of the discouragement. There is more.
- 22:52Jesus also predicted severe betrayal from within.
- 22:54The internal rot. Yes, he said, many would be
- 22:57offended and would betray one another and hate one another.
- 23:01He predicted the rise of false prophets within the Church.
- 23:04And Edwards points out that this was remarkably fulfilled in the
- 23:08sect of the Gnostics. It was.
- 23:10We should define who the Gnostics were for the listener
- 23:12because they play a huge role in this internal betrayal.
- 23:15Broadly speaking, Gnosticism was a movement that believed
- 23:19physical matter was inherently. Evil, and only the spirit was
- 23:22good. Right, they claimed to have a
- 23:25secret elite knowledge. A gnosis.
- 23:27Yes, a gnosis that elevated them above regular believers because
- 23:31they believed the physical body did not matter.
- 23:34They either fell into extreme punishing asceticism or wild,
- 23:39unrestrained hedonism. Because what you do with your
- 23:42body doesn't matter if only the spirit is good.
- 23:44Exactly. And crucially, because they
- 23:46didn't value the physical body or historical reality in the
- 23:49same way, they had no problem compromising with the Roman
- 23:52authorities. This is where the betrayal
- 23:54happens. Sought on When the Romans
- 23:56demanded that citizens burn a pinch of incense to the emperor
- 23:58and declare him a God, the Orthodox Christians refused.
- 24:02And they were thrown to the lions.
- 24:03The Gnostics, however, reasoned that since the physical action
- 24:06meant nothing, they could just burn the incense to save their
- 24:10own skins. Because it's just a bodily
- 24:12action, not a spiritual one. Right.
- 24:14They actively joined with the heathens to persecute Orthodox
- 24:17Christians, just as Jesus predicted.
- 24:20Let's frame the opposition here because Edward spends time
- 24:22describing the Roman Empire and we need to understand the sheer
- 24:26weight of the opponent. The scale is massive.
- 24:28This was not a minor local government.
- 24:31The Roman Empire was the strongest the world had ever
- 24:33seen. Edwards describes it as an
- 24:36empire of iron that broke all things in pieces.
- 24:39It had the wealth of the known world.
- 24:41The greatest philosophers of the age.
- 24:43And the unmatched logistical might of the Roman military
- 24:46legions. It was a monolithic, state
- 24:48sponsored Pagan machine. The emperor was worshipped as a
- 24:52God. To refuse that worship was not
- 24:54just a religious disagreement, it was treason against the
- 24:57state. So you have a tiny group of
- 24:59fishermen, tax collectors and outcasts from a backwater
- 25:03province. They have no money, no army, no
- 25:07political influence. They are facing the iron machine
- 25:10of Rome on the outside, and on the inside their own people, the
- 25:14Gnostics, are betraying them to the authorities.
- 25:18It looks completely hopeless. How did this movement survive?
- 25:22It is like a contagion that the Roman immune system simply could
- 25:26not identify because it didn't look like a traditional military
- 25:28threat. Rome knew how to fight armies
- 25:31with swords. They did not know how to fight
- 25:33people who sang hymns while being burned at the stake.
- 25:36The contagion analogy is a great fit.
- 25:38The Romans kept trying to amputate the infected limbs by
- 25:41executing the leaders, but the contagion just spread faster.
- 25:45Wait, if I am Rome and I see this movement growing and I
- 25:48start executing the leaders, shouldn't that stop the
- 25:51movement? You would think so.
- 25:52How did martyrdom actually help them?
- 25:55A skeptic might say, look, they could not even keep their own
- 25:57people alive, and they were fracturing from the inside.
- 26:00It was a failed movement. That would be a strong argument
- 26:02against any normal political movement, except for one glaring
- 26:06fact. What's?
- 26:07That the fracturing and the martyrdom were part of the
- 26:09prophecy. Oh, right.
- 26:11Christ foretold that they would betray and hate one another and
- 26:15that they would be killed. So if everything went smoothly,
- 26:18he would have been wrong. If the early church had
- 26:21experienced perfect, unbroken unity and universal acceptance
- 26:25from the culture, Jesus would have been proven a false
- 26:28prophet. The betrayal in the blood
- 26:30validated his foresight. The very things that should have
- 26:33destroyed them were the things that proved their founder was
- 26:35telling the truth. The blood of the martyrs
- 26:37functioned as a catalyst, not a deterrent.
- 26:40Precisely. And the fact that the movement
- 26:43survived both the external Roman persecution and the internal
- 26:46Gnostic betrayal shows a bizarre, almost inexplicable
- 26:50resilience. What does Edwards attribute that
- 26:53to? Edwards attributes the survival
- 26:55to the fulfillment of another promise, the arrival of the Holy
- 26:58Spirit. Jesus told them to tarry in
- 27:00Jerusalem until they were endued with might from on high.
- 27:03He told them he would give them a comforter, a spirit of truth
- 27:07who would guide them. And we see that shift happen
- 27:09historically. According to the historical
- 27:11record, these previously cowardly men.
- 27:14Men who literally ran away into the dark when Jesus was arrested
- 27:18in the garden. Yes, those same men suddenly
- 27:21possessed A courage and activity and an eloquence that absolutely
- 27:25baffled the Roman authorities. They stood before magistrates
- 27:28and spoke with a boldness that could not be explained by their
- 27:31education or background. Edwards brings in a metaphor
- 27:34from Isaiah 41 here that I think is really striking to explain
- 27:39the mechanism of this shift. Let's dig into that.
- 27:41He talks about turning a wilderness into a fruitful
- 27:44field. And he is not talking about
- 27:46literal agriculture. No.
- 27:48Isaiah speaks of opening rivers in high places and planting
- 27:51Cedars and myrtles in the desert.
- 27:53Edwards argues that this is a figure speech for a massive
- 27:56moral and spiritual shift. OK, unpack the moral wilderness.
- 27:59The Pagan world was a moral wilderness.
- 28:01It was barren of the knowledge of the through God.
- 28:04It was full of cruelty, blood, sports in the Colosseum and the
- 28:07debasing worship of idols. So turning that wilderness into
- 28:11a fruitful field means bringing a culture of virtue, charity,
- 28:15and rational worship to the Roman Empire.
- 28:17Yes, Edwards frames this as a work far greater than Moses
- 28:22Parting the Red Sea. That is quite the claim.
- 28:24Well, parting water is a manipulation of physics,
- 28:28changing the ingrained moral fabric of an entire empire of
- 28:31millions of people. That is a manipulation of the
- 28:34human heart on a massive scale. It is fundamentally harder to
- 28:38change what a culture loves than to change the weather.
- 28:41And it happened despite the iron of Rome.
- 28:44The Gospel was universally published throughout the empire
- 28:46before the destruction of Jerusalem.
- 28:48Just as Jesus predicted in Matthew 24.1.
- 28:51Faint. The contagion overwhelmed the
- 28:53host. This movement didn't just
- 28:54survive in the shadows, it conquered specific geographic
- 28:58regions and altered the cultural baseline of the world.
- 29:01It certainly did. Let's look at the mechanism of
- 29:03how this cultural shift happened, specifically regarding
- 29:06the overthrow of global idolatry.
- 29:09The Old Testament prophets were absolutely clear that a primary
- 29:12distinguishing mark of the Messiah would be his victory
- 29:15over the idols of the heathen world.
- 29:17Isaiah is full of prophecies about the Gentile world turning
- 29:21from idols to the God of Israel. It was promised as the Messiah's
- 29:24great reward for his suffering. The scope of this fulfillment is
- 29:28staggering. Edwards lists the regions.
- 29:31Lesser Asia, Europe, Great Britain, Ireland and America.
- 29:36These were places steeped in ancient, entrenched paganism,
- 29:39and we have to remember what everyday paganism actually
- 29:42looked. Like it wasn't just reading
- 29:44mythology. No, it was woven into your daily
- 29:46life. You sacrifice to the God of the
- 29:49river so your crops wouldn't flood.
- 29:51You burned incense to the God of the harvest it.
- 29:54Was a time out of mind agricultural paganism?
- 29:56We are talking about the worship of wood, stone, silver and gold.
- 30:00The worship of ancient deities like Dagon, Bell, and Nebo.
- 30:04These systems of worship dictated the seasons, the
- 30:07economy and the government. Yet through the influence of
- 30:10Jesus of Nazareth, this ancient idolatry was completely
- 30:13overthrown. It was not just reformed, it was
- 30:15eradicated. The temples were abandoned or
- 30:18turned into churches. Edwards makes a brilliant
- 30:21comparative argument here that really puts this achievement
- 30:24into perspective. Because sometimes we lose sight
- 30:27of how hard it is to change a cultures baseline religion.
- 30:30It is nearly impossible. Right.
- 30:33Edwards points out that the greatest philosophers of Greece
- 30:36and Rome, guys like Plato, Aristotle, Socrates.
- 30:40With all their wisdom, logic and rhetoric.
- 30:42They could not stop paganism. They might have mocked the gods
- 30:46in private among their intellectual friends, but the
- 30:49public continued to sacrifice to Jupiter and Mars.
- 30:52And even looking at the giants of Jewish history.
- 30:55David, a warrior king with a heart for God.
- 30:57Solomon, the wisest man with immense wealth.
- 31:00Moses who saw the plagues of Egypt.
- 31:02Elijah, who called fire from heaven.
- 31:05Abraham, the patriarch. None of them, not a single one,
- 31:08could eradicate global idolatry. Even the whole nation of Israel
- 31:12could barely keep themselves from worshipping idols, let
- 31:14alone convert the heathens. The Egyptians did not convert
- 31:18when Joseph taught their senators.
- 31:19The Babylonians did not convert when Daniel interpreted dreams.
- 31:23The local idolatry remained untouched.
- 31:25Yet Jesus of Nazareth, a Carpenter from a town nobody
- 31:28respected, who was executed as a state criminal, accomplished
- 31:32this. He achieved the total geographic
- 31:34overthrow of ancient gods. So here is a massive logical
- 31:37question. OK, if the critics of Edward's
- 31:40time, or even modern skeptics believe Jesus was a grand
- 31:44imposter, how do they explain him accidentally fulfilling the
- 31:47biggest, most difficult job description of the Messiah?
- 31:50This is the logical trap that Edward sets, and it is
- 31:53brilliant. Let's trace his deduction.
- 31:55He says Let us assume for a moment that Jesus is an
- 31:57imposter. If he is an imposter, he's a
- 32:00wicked man, falsely claiming divine authority, leading
- 32:04millions, a stray. So God would be angry with him.
- 32:07Highly angry, we must then believe that the God of the
- 32:10universe, who is deeply jealous of his glory and hates idolatry
- 32:13above all things, allowed this wicked imposter to predict the
- 32:17downfall of global heathenism. And not only predict it.
- 32:20Right, but God actually granted this imposter the success of
- 32:24conquering the Roman Empire and destroying the idols.
- 32:27God would be rewarding A blasphemer by giving him the
- 32:30exact victory promised to the true Messiah.
- 32:33Spot on. I mean, you nailed it.
- 32:34It is completely unreasonable to think the moral governor of the
- 32:37world would permit an imposter to achieve the greatest moral
- 32:40revolution in human history. To eradicate the very idols God
- 32:44hates in the name of a false prophet.
- 32:46It contradicts the entire nature of God as revealed in the Old
- 32:50Testament. God does not share His glory
- 32:52with a liar. Logic just collapses in on
- 32:55itself. God would not give the ultimate
- 32:57victory to a fraud. And there is another layer to
- 33:00this trap regarding the timeline of prophecy, which I find
- 33:03incredibly compelling. Oh, about the window of
- 33:06opportunity, yes. Edwards points out that the
- 33:08prophecy is already fulfilled. The ancient idols of the Roman
- 33:12Empire, of Greece, of Babylon, of the Canaanites, they are
- 33:17gone. Nobody is sacrificing bulls to
- 33:19Mars or grain to Dagon today. Therefore, the overthrow of
- 33:23ancient heathenism has happened. Which means the window of
- 33:26opportunity to fulfill the prophecy is closed.
- 33:28Completely closed. There is no ancient heathenism
- 33:31left for a future different Messiah to overthaw.
- 33:34That's a brilliant. Point If Jesus is not the
- 33:37Messiah who fulfilled these prophecies, then the prophecies
- 33:39are null and void. Because the conditions for
- 33:42fulfilling them no longer exist in the world.
- 33:44The ancient gods are dead. Jesus is the one who killed
- 33:46them. You cannot wait around for
- 33:48someone else to do the job because the job is already.
- 33:50Done. And it was done precisely by the
- 33:53one who stood there and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
- 33:56I will do it. Wow, let's bring this all
- 33:58together. What is the take away for you?
- 34:02Listener? Edwards is asking us to look
- 34:04past the familiar Sunday School stories and observe the massive,
- 34:08verifiable shockwaves of Jesus's prophecies.
- 34:11We have looked at the terrifying, chilling precision
- 34:14of Jerusalem's fall. The famines.
- 34:16The fiery swords hanging in the sky.
- 34:18The exact timing of the Roman siege at Passover.
- 34:21We have examined the permanent end of a global sacrificial
- 34:24system. Caused by the loss of the tribal
- 34:26records, making the old law impossible to follow.
- 34:29We have seen the survival of a persecuted marginal movement
- 34:33against the iron might of the Roman Empire.
- 34:35And the total geographic overthrow of ancient idols that
- 34:38have ruled human imagination for millennia.
- 34:41It is a mountain of historical evidence that points to 1 clear
- 34:44conclusion. What's that?
- 34:46The foresight and authority displayed here are not of human
- 34:48origin. The mechanism of history itself
- 34:51was bent to accommodate these predictions.
- 34:53They cannot be human. And that leaves us with a final
- 34:56thought to Mull over something that builds on everything we
- 34:59have discussed today. I like this part.
- 35:01If the historical predictions of Christ reshaped the political
- 35:05and religious landscape of the entire world with such
- 35:08terrifying accuracy. If the destruction of Jerusalem
- 35:12and the death of the gods happened exactly as he said they
- 35:15would. What does that suggest about the
- 35:17reality of his future predictions?
- 35:19Specifically, his teachings on a future state of final judgement.
- 35:24Because those predictions are still waiting to be fulfilled.
- 35:27And as we have seen today, his track record is literally
- 35:30perfect. It forces you to take those
- 35:32future warnings with the utmost seriousness.
- 35:35If he was right about the Roman legions in the fall of the
- 35:38Temple, there is every logical reason to believe he is right
- 35:41about eternity. It is not just philosophy
- 35:43anymore, it is a historical guarantee.
- 35:46Thank you all for joining us on this deep dive into the archives
- 35:48of Jonathan Edwards. We hope this is giving you a
- 35:50fresh perspective on the precision of history and the
- 35:53weight of these ancient words it.
- 35:55Has been a fascinating discussion.
- 35:56Truly has. We will see you next time.
- 35:59Keep reading, keep questioning, and keep thinking goodbye.