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#137: Scream 2 (1997) with The Decision Reel · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  I feel like Neve Campbell and scream to she thinks she can go
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  off to college and be happy and then, the murderer comes back
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  and starts killing off all of her.
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  Friends aren't a lot of lessons from that movie, it's just one
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  of them. Welcome to, what's your least
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  favorite scary movie? The podcasts, are we talked
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  about the good, the bad, the ugly, and the Absurd in all of
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  our favorite and least favorite Gary.
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  Babies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully, has its fanbase, even if we don't always
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  get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jessie. And today, we have an extra
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  special returning guest Steve from the decision.
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  Real. What up guys, thanks for having
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  me back on. As always, thank you for coming
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  back. It's always nice to have you on
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  hell. Yeah, it's always a pleasure.
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  All right, we're talking about screen to.
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  Yeah, always some for some reason it always comes back to
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  scream. I don't know.
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  All right. So yeah we're talking about
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  scream to today. We have Steve over to help us
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  but before we get into our scream discussion Jessie do you
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  have any announcements? Yes.
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  So on Sunday we had our to be or not to be episode on Pool Party
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  Massacre. Gonna have a pool party.
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  Dude. That's a if you have not seen
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  that movie, it's a fun movie. It's fine.
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  Yeah, it's been on my watch list for a while but I just haven't
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  gotten around to it. So maybe maybe two.
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  I don't know, I don't want to do it.
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  I might get into it. It's like an hour. 19 minutes.
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  Yeah, although to be throws in an absurd amount of AD breaks
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  for house rent, the movie is. Yeah, to be, is kind of hit or
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  miss with that stuff. Well, sometimes it's like,
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  here's one ad break for a two-hour movie and I'm sometimes
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  it's like oh, five minutes of the movie is pressed and then
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  it'll suck. Yeah, it's like, all right.
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  You got ads coming 54s, just could just keep on fake Joe.
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  Does it gets me every time? I appreciate it, though.
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  Okay. Is that all you got?
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  Yeah. Yeah, yes.
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  Yes. All right, cool.
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  Then let's do the poll real quick.
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  So we had Paranormal Activity to last week and just based off of
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  the stupid fucking tagline from that movie.
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  We just wanted to ask, did you demand it or did you politely
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  ask for it? So Steve, just to give you some
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  context if you weren't aware, we talk about tagline at a glance,
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  every episode and Paranormal Activity 2, did not really have
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  a tagline. I had a marketing stick.
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  Yeah, whole like marketing thing where like it just says demand
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  it, and right there, you were able to demand getting to watch
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  it early in your city, if your city demanded, it more than the
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  others. Mmm, so kind of like, hey, we
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  don't have the money and the backing to put it to all these
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  places. So if you demand it, we will
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  know where we can actually put it.
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  Oh, and look. Hey, Studio people want to see
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  it. Give us more money and if it
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  were essentially we're actually Blum House.
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  I could believe that like they Even cheap out on the
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  distribution. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Okay. So on Twitter 75% demand, it
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  25%, politely ask and Instagram. 38% demanded. 62% boy, we ask
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  now. That's saying it right.
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  The man that made. All right.
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  That's what I'm doing. I'm demanding.
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  It it has been demanded. It is.
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  Estimated I got politely request.
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  It quietly. Part 3, I will demand it.
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  It's more for three. Okay, that's it for a pull.
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  Let's talk about scream to now. All right, screen to released
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  December 12th, 1997. We watched it on our 4K.
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  Mmm, Yeah. Blu-ray discs and both are
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  correct. Yeah, as of March 25th, 2023,
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  this is available to stream on Pluto's tv, YouTube Primetime,
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  Paramount Plus or prime premium. You can Also, rent it from
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  Google Play. Redblacks red box or Voodoo
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  written by Kevin Williamson directed by Wes.
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  Craven music by Marco Beltrami, and special effects makeup by
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  kvn. Then they did the first one.
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  Okay cool. Yeah, starring.
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  Neve Campbell is Sidney Prescott.
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  Courteney, Cox's, Gale weathers David Arquette is Dewey.
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  Riley Elise. Neal is Hallie.
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  Jamie Kennedy is Randy Meeks, Liev.
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  Schreiber as cotton weary Timothy, Olyphant Oliphant I
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  can't I don't Timothy, Timothy elephant.
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  Timothy, Olyphant Olyphant awesome as a Mickey.
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  Jerry O'Connell is Derek Laurie. Metcalf is Debbie salt and Roger
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  Jackson as the voice. Nice.
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  Okay. Okay.
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  Budget or begged head. Our favorite game.
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  I think this one is budget. You know.
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  I'm going to agree with you but what was the focus one?
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  Was the first one bucked up. Another person was budget, was
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  it? Okay.
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  Obviously this one's gonna be budget.
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  Yeah, 24 million Dan. Yeah, that's way more than I
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  expected opening weekend. Box office.
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  Thirty, two point, nine million, and a worldwide gross of 172
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  million shit. So almost grossed as much as the
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  first one that's impressive. Very much so and it's funny like
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  looking back at this. I think I watched screaming the
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  first scream again, maybe. A couple months ago and then
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  watching scream to after, obviously, we're not getting
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  into spoilers talk. But after watching the newest
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  scream, this movie seems so tame in comparison with literally
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  everything. Yeah, I can see that.
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  Yeah. And again, going up against the
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  first scream, even this movie. Just felt like, you know, like I
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  was expecting. Randy has the talk, I don't know
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  if we're getting super deep into this but Randy has the talk
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  about sequels have to be bigger badder.
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  Are more, you know, kills more gruesome kills.
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  Where was that? Yeah, it really doesn't feel as
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  graphic as the first one. Mmm.
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  No. I mean, the openings pretty
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  graphic. But like, yeah, I don't really
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  think of anything else that like, goes above and beyond the
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  first one. No.
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  And I got a lot to talk about about the, the opening in this
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  movie. So if you do you think, and then
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  we're going to get too deep into it, all right.
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  Okay, so currently has a six point three out of 10 on IMDb.
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  That's what I say it. Rude, that's rude.
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  It's a rude rating. I pulled three movies also from
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  1997 as a comparison for ratings and budget / gross.
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  Okay, the first one naturally. Being I Know What You Did Last
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  Summer. Oh nice.
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  I got Sarah Michelle Gellar. We got Kevin Williamson seemed
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  like an athlete. He wrote the ones who right?
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  Okay. Yeah, that was released October
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  17th. 1997 budget 17 million in a worldwide gross of 125.
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  In. I'll say it again.
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  Kevin Williamson. Ran that decade?
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  Yeah, like it's kind of absurd, like the later.
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  Half of that decade. He has so many hit movies.
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  Yeah. The late 90s belong to Kevin
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  Williamson. Scream, I Know What You Did Last
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  Summer Halloween, The Faculty. It's all.
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  It's almost like he figured out the, the key to what everybody
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  wanted to see and went, I'm just going to remake it.
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  Put a different name on it and change the formula a little bit,
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  but not so much that people are going to be like, wow I like
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  yeah, just enough. Yeah, we talked about this when
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  we were discussing the first one last month, but his philosophy
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  to move, your writing is writing a movie.
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  He himself, would want to watch. That should be literally every
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  single person who writes a movie should be kind of do that, but
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  it would think you imagine like somebody riding a moving by God,
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  I hate this so fucking much. It probably happens more than
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  you think. Dude, that's what happened with
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  the Dragon Ball movie? Oh my God.
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  That's Udo interference to right, where?
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  It's like. Okay, we're paying you to make
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  this in this. What has to happen and you're
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  just I fuck I swear to fucking God this sucks so fucking hard
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  but whatever. If you want it you have you ever
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  watched that by the way, you know, it's funny if you take out
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  the history and knowledge of anything, you have Dragon Ball Z
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  and you watch that movie, you're like, all right?
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  It's that's what I was gonna be thinking to yeah.
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  Right. But is it super terrible?
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  No. But you got to think of what
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  came out all around. That was like these the same
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  type movies and this does. Just like a generic whatever
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  movie. And then you add the Dragon Ball
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  and in here like, oh wow, this is fun.
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  There's trash. Like, how could you take
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  anything that has to do with Dragon Ball?
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  Besides literally just the names of the characters and the fact
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  that there's Dragon Balls? That's literally what they did
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  it. Oh yeah.
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  Well bit. It's like, luckily today has
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  super nerd James Marsters as a part of a, who fought for, at
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  least some accuracy to eat your. Yeah, I respect that man, he
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  fought for Piccolo. Be green.
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  They were insisting on him not being green and he's like, no
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  guys. I got we learned nothing from
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  Super Mario. Brothers, Wally Super Mario
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  Brothers. Like I think that that's a cult
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  hit people. That's right.
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  He's not a man, no, but he's kind of a dinosaur, right?
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  He's got spikes. I like how they tried to like,
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  make it real. But then they still had the
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  Cooper's or whatever with the small heads and they're like,
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  well yeah, but the main guy can't be No, sir were and Yoshi
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  to, you know, she's like a straight-up Velociraptor
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  something right, right. Yeah.
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  So it's like they went into it and we're like well we can do
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  this and then they're like but we can't.
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  Well, how do we do it? I don't know.
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  Give them a cool-looking spiky hair do, sure why not?
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  This is gotta play some, I'm sorry when I like, isn't that
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  like a famous actor that played him, isn't it?
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  Not Dennis Hopper, Dennis Hopper, guess who it is?
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  Yeah, speed, Dennis Hopper, maybe he is like, I'm not going.
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  He went. How much money am I getting
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  paid? I don't give a fuck.
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  Yeah, do whatever you want to this face.
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  Okay, sorry, continue. Okay.
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  I Know What You Did Last Summer, has a very rude rating as well.
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  And IMDb currently sitting at a 5.8 5.8 for that.
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  Yes, well, that makes sense really.
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  I feel like gotta think most people that are going to see
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  these movies when they get out of them.
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  Go well that sucked. But was it enjoyable?
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  Yeah. But then you have your horror
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  Fanatics like me or you guys who are like oh yeah, fuck that
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  movie was awesome. Yeah, yeah I don't know if you
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  guys really remember this but I do remember.
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  Back in the late 90s. There was a Argue with Scream
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  person or are you an I Know What You Did Last Summer person.
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  So there was like this back and forth of when I ain't seen the
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  new scream. I'm with these people or vice
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  versa, but it's funny because they're made by the same guy.
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  So like he created this like Pokemon Red vs.
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  Pokemon Blue type situation where it's like it's the same
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  game guys. Kevin Williamson a smog sitting
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  in his cave, counting his money like yeah fuck, yeah, team team,
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  whatever you want, okay. Secondly, the comparison.
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  Okay, wish master came out, September 19th. 1997.
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  This movie is barely a week older than my little sister.
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  Wow, never seen that, but I want to watch that and that was made
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  with a bug. Ted of five million dollars.
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  Okay. And it grossed 15 million.
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  Nice. Yep.
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  Also has a five point eight out of ten, which that one's not.
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  Quite as prolific. So I can understand that rating
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  being a little bit lower. Yeah, I mean yeah I've not even
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  watched it but I know that it's got like its fanbase for sure
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  and the last one felt some medically appropriate but I got
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  no box office numbers on. Yeah, funny games.
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  Funny game. Yes.
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  The original not the 2007 American shot-for-shot remake by
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  the same director that some people still, for some reason,
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  have a problem with. Yeah.
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  That's I don't know what funny games.
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  What is fun? Oh, you'd love.
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  Funny game. Yeah, let's I won't ruin
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  anything but it's a fucking bummer of a movie man.
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  One, fuck of a bummer from. Yeah.
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  And it's quote Tusk again. Yeah.
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  Also from 1997. Yeah, there's a 1997 and then
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  there's a 2007 American remake. It shot-for-shot done by the
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  same director. Yeah.
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  So you can really watch Michael hanneke.
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  Yep. That has a seven point five out
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  of ten on IMDb that makes its that's correct.
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  Yeah. Seventy-seven thousand reviews.
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  So, I mean, that means something.
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  Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely watch funny games.
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  You would, you would enjoy it. Wait.
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  So you didn't have a go. Did you have a budget for that?
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  No. But I'd already committed to it
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  and it felt appropriate given some of the self-awareness of
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  it. Yeah, that's true.
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  It's green. Yeah.
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  Okay, I have multiple tagline. Hey, okay.
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  The one on the poster someone has taken their love of Of
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  sequels One Step too far? Isn't that kind of the first
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  one? But instead of scary movie it's
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  just sequels pretty much. Okay.
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  Yeah, there's a killer on campus making more calls making more
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  kills. The that's not good.
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  No it's not. Do you make a kill?
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  I would think you would just kill making more kills.
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  No it doesn't has rushed. Okay.
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  Okay, remember, hold up. There's people in a room to get
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  paid to come up with these tag lines that are making a lot of
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  money and that's what they came up with.
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  Yeah man, like taglines are, it's a mixed bag.
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  No matter how I'm going to movie is, don't worry.
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  Wait till we get to the last money.
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  Oh, right? I could come up with a better
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  one right now. Okay, now that's our assessment
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  at, that's our segment at the end, Steve, okay?
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  Then I'll save it, okay, sorry, rules of a sequel.
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  The body count is always hot bigger, the death scene.
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  These are much more, elaborate bowls.
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  Yeah, yeah. Is the burden of body counts?
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  Probably the same? I don't know.
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  Not much different. At least.
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  I don't know. We have waited the kill count.
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  Recounts, we did with us so I cannot tell you, the hard
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  numbers on this. Okay?
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  That's fair. All right.
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  Ready? Ready.
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  Are you ready? Yes.
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  Yes. Scream again, scream again that
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  has the night. He came home again.
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  That does. Yeah.
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  God damn. These are the laziest fucking
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  taglines I've ever heard. This one's ours, because I'm
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  pretty sure it's stolen. It's showtime.
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  Hold on that one tracks though, right?
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  Because in the first movie, obviously, they're not making a
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  movie about the movie. So, like in this one they're
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  making a movie and people go for the third one, but also I can't
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  read it's show time without hearing Michael Keaton as
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  Beetlejuice. Yeah, Joker, no no.
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  Yeah, you see, I used to have a good Beetlejuice back in the day
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  and then like, I don't know, I went through puberty and lost
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  it. Hey Travis, do your Seth Rogen?
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  Laughs I can't do it on the spot.
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  No. I used to be able to do it then
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  I will. Yeah.
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  Too much pressure on the yeah. You got so cocky and you tried
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  to do it while we were recording and you couldn't last.
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  Yeah, you have a mental block. I do have a need to go see a
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  sports psychologist. Yeah.
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  Okay. And then finally, Courrier.
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  Sexier, funnier, sexier. I argue there's a hundred
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  percent less sex in. This is less sex in this movie.
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  Absolutely. I mean, is there sex appeal?
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  I mean, they're older, right? So, they're not being glorified
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  as high school students so you could sex them up now, right?
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  Which I don't guess you really did doesn't happen.
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  Yeah. I the closest we get to sex is
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  Gail climbing on top of Dewey in the classroom but then they get
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  interrupted by goes face or hold on.
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  He's holding her e at the at that point.
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  So that's sexier that is pretty sexy and and the way do, he's
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  been walking through this movie. He's got a little bit of that
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  pimp walk going on. That's sexier, she has nerve
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  damage, Steve comfortable with that giant.
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  Look whatever you do, whatever you want to call it.
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  It's a pimp. Walk also goes save.
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  If you're into the kinky shit fucking Derek being tied up at
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  the end, it was a little thing that I don't know why I like
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  Risk misremembered this as Having Henry Winkler in it as a
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  teacher because he isn't, he a teacher in the third movie or
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  something this principle in the first principle?
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  Yeah. Oh, the first one that makes
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  sense and but he his twin brothers, the dean at the
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  college that would be hilarious. I don't know why, but I like I
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  misremembered him being in this and I like I was a little let
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  down. I was like, wait, is he in the
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  third reason, the first something whatever, but then
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  when you know what's, his face is tied up.
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  I always thought like it was a different way.
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  He was tied up and then obviously, I remember the
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  Ending. I always remember the ending of
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  this movie but I couldn't remember that.
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  It was Ellen's ex-wife, r.i.p. that tied him up with the
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  fucking, you know, the sorority to like, oh, you gave away your
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  letters. Oh whoopsie do shit.
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  This is so fun fact. Travis and I were both members
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  of Greek life in the same college and he gave me he
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  lavaliers me and that's the same thing as what Yes, and yeah, the
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  same thing happened to me. I got tied up well, so they
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  initially re going to do it, the night of my formal which would
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  have screwed me over on so many levels.
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  None, the least of which being that we had to take a shuttle
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  over there together for safety measures.
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  And I wouldn't have been allowed in.
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  If I didn't take the shuttle. It was also my first formal over
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  21 while I wasn't like a member of executive where like I wasn't
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  Allowed to drink. Yeah and one of our friends in
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  the same fraternity is Travis was like don't do this to Jesse,
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  she will never forgive you all so instead.
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  Wait, they did it during finals week when I was up at three am
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  working on a term paper, I get a call like hey are you wondering
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  where Travis it was like? Okay I didn't perhaps a little
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  tied up at the moment just to give some context.
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  I didn't actually like get kidnapped, they tricked me
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  they're like hey man like I need and I'm so fucking stupid for
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  falling for this. But they're like, hey man like
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  can you come back? We just need you back at the
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  house for a minute. Like we wish literally we were
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  up. It was 1.
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  A.m. we have been pulling all-nighters because it was a
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  grueling finals week. Yeah.
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  And I get in the car and they're like, okay man, like, can we
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  like we're supposed to have a bag over your head, can we put
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  the bag over your head? I'm like, okay, sure I'll play
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  along and then they walked me down there and then all of a
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  sudden they're like, all right, get him.
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  And then that's whenever I like, I fully start panicking and then
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  almost knocked down a deck. Yeah, I kicked down And I kick
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  the leg of that thing and I was hoping I was in like fighter, I
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  was in fight mode fight or flight, well, you're being
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  kidnapped that the strength comes out at that point.
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  That's true. But know that it's you could
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  dick. It's a real thing.
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  So, you know, not bought anything that was specifically
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  made up for the movie. Yeah.
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  Oh no, I didn't think it was but I just, I don't know.
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  I find that so not archaic but like The Hazing and all that.
• 19:22
  That goes on with fraternity week or you know, whatever
• 19:24
  pledging and all that. Like obviously there's been a
• 19:26
  lot of movies made about it and you know and I don't know it's
• 19:29
  just accepted I think expelled spelled it out best for me when
• 19:33
  like even the main guy Justin Long's character like, says this
• 19:36
  whole speech about how stupid it is and how like people just want
• 19:40
  to be, you know, accepted for who they are and do what they
• 19:43
  want to do. And like now you're like, well
• 19:44
  no you got a bound to these hundred-year-old whatever
• 19:48
  fraternity rules and I don't, I don't know.
• 19:54
  I do like in Van Wilder when they're making them, jump on the
• 19:58
  glass and Tara Reid's. Like, don't relax guys, it's
• 20:01
  Doritos. And then like, they like do like
• 20:03
  a jig on top of them. Don't worry, you guys, it's
• 20:07
  Doritos. So, I guess you've never seen
• 20:10
  the movie Van Wilder, you should.
• 20:13
  It's obviously it's dated at this point, but Ryan Reynolds
• 20:16
  plays Van Wilder, a guy who's been in college for like, six
• 20:19
  plus years and who's not trying to get a doctorate, And it's a
• 20:22
  National Lampoon type movie. So it's almost like an Animal
• 20:26
  House. Spin-off kind of, we're like the
• 20:28
  guy from Animal House is his dad.
• 20:30
  Anyways, OK, hijinks in the insu whatever he's trying to date
• 20:35
  this Tara Reid's character who is like interviewing him because
• 20:38
  he's like the most popular dude on campus and then one can kind
• 20:41
  of get like a bead on them. And in doing that her boyfriend
• 20:45
  is like the head of a fraternity and their hazing a bunch of
• 20:49
  these new new pledges and they're like tied up.
• 20:52
  Up with blindfolds on like in their boxers standing on this
• 20:56
  thing and they're supposed to say, all right, you're going to
• 20:57
  jump into in front of you glass and you have to, you know walk
• 21:02
  on it or hot coals or something. I can't remember what it was
• 21:05
  there. Just like it was if you trust us
• 21:07
  or you know. Yeah.
• 21:07
  Yeah. And so as she's walking by them
• 21:10
  to leave she's gonna hate you. Look guys are just fucking
• 21:12
  Doritos. So before they count to three,
• 21:14
  they all jumped down and start doing like a jig on top of the
• 21:16
  Doritos because it's fucking three toes.
• 21:18
  So, it's a funny scene, it sounds awesome.
• 21:21
  Sounds like Always, it's really does.
• 21:23
  Well, yeah, that, yeah, I agree with that.
• 21:25
  But no, honestly, Van Wilder is a movie.
• 21:27
  That I always go back to you because it was like, Ryan,
• 21:29
  Reynolds finding out, who his character.
• 21:32
  What makes Ryan Reynolds famous now is him in that character
• 21:36
  role because he's, he's basically Deadpool, but in
• 21:38
  college and then there's there's another show that I tell
• 21:41
  everybody about back in the 90s who's called two guys a girl and
• 21:43
  a pizza place that he was in and you can see a lot of the same
• 21:48
  characteristics or the way he Sort of changed his acting
• 21:55
  figuring that out in that show and I, it's hard to find.
• 21:58
  It's you got to like buy the DVDs from me, the UK and shit.
• 22:00
  But being of Ryan Reynolds and Justin long, we just re-watched
• 22:04
  waiting. Not that long ago.
• 22:06
  Yeah we did it holds up, it does hey if you've worked in the
• 22:09
  restaurant industry like nothing has changed either, Jesse, and
• 22:14
  Jesse and I Jesse worked in the front.
• 22:16
  I worked in the kitchen. So we both really and that movie
• 22:19
  was made for you. Yeah, playing the goat.
• 22:25
  Okay. Okay.
• 22:25
  I have plenty of fun, fact. Okay, we've got some fun cameos
• 22:30
  in this movie. Uh-huh.
• 22:31
  Louis, Arquette. David Arquette's father place.
• 22:34
  The sheriff of the oh, really sir?
• 22:36
  Partment on Ice. Okay, and Kevin Williamson look
• 22:40
  familiar. Okay, that makes sense.
• 22:42
  Yep. And Kevin Williamson is the guy
• 22:44
  on TV at the beginning. That's interviewing cotton
• 22:45
  weary. Okay.
• 22:47
  Yeah, so he has his own little Kimmy.
• 22:49
  Oh I wish that they had David Arquette's sister in here to the
• 22:53
  girl, from The Nightmare on Elm Street series.
• 22:55
  What's her? Tricia are Patricia Arquette?
• 22:57
  Yeah. Wasn't she had scare fest last
• 22:59
  year? I don't know.
• 23:00
  She was, we had a lot of people from Nightmare franchise their
• 23:05
  last year though. Okay, Kevin Williamson gave a
• 23:09
  five page outline while auctioning, the original scream,
• 23:12
  script hoping to, you know, entice buyers that they'd be
• 23:15
  buying multiple movies at once. After a successful test
• 23:19
  screening and initial financial and critical The success of the
• 23:21
  first screen movie Dimension, decided to green-light the movie
• 23:25
  while it was still while Scream, one was still in theaters, okay?
• 23:29
  So the production began in March of 1997 filming began in June of
• 23:34
  1997, and ran for nine weeks. It was a very short, short time
• 23:41
  table. Yeah.
• 23:42
  Like it is kind of impressive how quickly they turn this thing
• 23:45
  out. Yeah.
• 23:45
  And so, that contributed to some of the problems this movie is
• 23:49
  pretty a notorious for Onset production issues, because a
• 23:53
  copy of the script got leaked to the Internet.
• 23:55
  So people found out who the killers were so you know.
• 24:00
  Okay. So you probably have information
• 24:02
  on this. Yes.
• 24:03
  Let me get through it before, you ask questions, so they had
• 24:08
  to keep doing rewrites. Keep working on this.
• 24:11
  Sometimes they would be writing, they would be finishing up pages
• 24:15
  on set day of shooting, just due to that.
• 24:19
  Because on top of the very production schedule having to do
• 24:23
  these rewrites Kevin Williamson, who's obviously also tied up
• 24:26
  with multiple other projects going on at the same time,
• 24:29
  right? So sometimes he would have very
• 24:31
  detailed parts of the movie but then other parts of it were less
• 24:34
  detailed and West Craven would have to fill it in develop it
• 24:38
  more. Okay.
• 24:39
  So the initial killers were Derek Hallie cotton and Nancy
• 24:46
  Loomis. So they're going to be for that.
• 24:48
  We're going to be we're gonna double it.
• 24:49
  Yes. So high So who is Derek the the
• 24:53
  boyfriend? Yeah, so cotton Derek Nancy
• 24:56
  Loomis. And who was the fourth one
• 24:58
  Hallie throw me. Okay, wow, okay, hmm.
• 25:02
  So they when he rewrote who the killers were the IDS, their
• 25:08
  identities were kept super quiet, only provided to the
• 25:11
  people directly involved in the scene and only provided on the
• 25:14
  day of shooting, okay? To put to prevent any further
• 25:18
  leaks. So so, Oh does that make the
• 25:22
  movie better or worse? If they stayed with the original
• 25:27
  Killers to me? I don't like them being The
• 25:29
  Killers now. I don't like the thought of her.
• 25:32
  Having another boyfriend be to killer.
• 25:35
  Yeah. Right like okay.
• 25:37
  So I like the idea of how early, you know the roommate aspect of
• 25:41
  it. That's still an intimate
• 25:43
  betrayal, but it's a little bit different.
• 25:45
  Okay, hold on. What I at, sorry, I've been
• 25:49
  trying to say this for like five times.
• 25:52
  So, I had always read that this is kind of bullshit because I
• 25:57
  thought that they distributed fake scripts to prevent this.
• 26:02
  It's part of my fun facts. Okay.
• 26:04
  So in 2017, Kevin Williamson, said that they had dummy drafts
• 26:10
  that they purposefully leaked with three supposed dummy
• 26:13
  endings. Now, I don't know how much, I
• 26:15
  believe that. You think that's really in
• 26:17
  truly? Yeah.
• 26:18
  He's trying to just like cover. Yeah.
• 26:20
  Okay. That's that's how it feels to me
• 26:22
  because there are some parts of this movie.
• 26:24
  Like it doesn't feel like Mickey was super involved throughout
• 26:27
  most of the movie. He's just kind of inserted here
• 26:30
  and there he seems like the most random decision for a killer
• 26:34
  because I don't understand his motive other than him being
• 26:37
  obsessed with some goodies and he's a psychopath apparently.
• 26:40
  Yeah yeah yeah. And they just kind of he feels
• 26:42
  very plugged in. Yeah.
• 26:44
  Yeah. You also disappears halfway
• 26:45
  through the movie? Yeah, exactly.
• 26:47
  That's true. Yeah he does.
• 26:48
  So it does feel Feel like there was potentially some so and I
• 26:53
  could see him wanting to like preserve the legacy of scream
• 26:57
  and you know, just say this is the movie we wanted to put out.
• 27:02
  Do I necessarily believe it? I don't know.
• 27:04
  Yeah, I could see that. I wonder how he feels about not
• 27:08
  being involved in this series. Now I don't know.
• 27:11
  He's counting his money in the corner.
• 27:12
  Go do whatever you want. Yeah probably the audition for
• 27:17
  the role of Derek for Jerry O'Connell and everybody else
• 27:20
  that audition for it was the I think I love you seen.
• 27:22
  That's what I would think. It would have to be right you
• 27:24
  got it, nailed that. And then finally the MPAA they
• 27:30
  had Filmed way gory or stuff and put it into the original cut,
• 27:36
  that they submitted to the MPAA after having to go through eight
• 27:41
  cut for the first one, to get an R rating.
• 27:44
  They were ready, they were like, okay, we're going to make this
• 27:46
  way gory or than we actually want it to be.
• 27:48
  So that way we have stuff we can cut down and have the movie we
• 27:51
  want. And then the MPAA was fine with
• 27:54
  all of the violence because they thought that the message
• 27:56
  Justified, it the message. Yeah.
• 27:59
  What's the message that like violence?
• 28:01
  Media causes Killers or some so let's make a violin.
• 28:07
  Yeah, movie. So we can get more Killers out
• 28:09
  there. Great.
• 28:10
  Okay. No, no, I think it's the other
• 28:12
  way around, I think it's them saying that in your face to go,
• 28:16
  oh no, it's the opposite violence in media and stuff.
• 28:20
  Like this isn't what caused Killers, you know.
• 28:23
  MPAA is a bunch of puritanical like Fanatics.
• 28:27
  There's no way that they would have that kind of
• 28:29
  self-awareness. Well I agree.
• 28:31
  With that. Here's my not a Counterpoint.
• 28:33
  So what you said, but a Counterpoint to, they had to put
• 28:36
  multiple Tay or multiple Cuts together in.
• 28:39
  This is what we got and it's still our look at like fucking
• 28:43
  RoboCop. He gets decimated in that
• 28:47
  opening scene in ripped apart and there's blood flying
• 28:50
  everywhere. That's fine.
• 28:52
  We can give that an R but you can't show somebody being
• 28:54
  stabbed in the chest a couple times because like when her
• 28:58
  roommate gets killed spoilers for scream too, if you haven't.
• 29:01
  In it since 98, they like cut away, when she gets stabbed and
• 29:08
  then Cuts back, you know, cuts to Sydney going, oh my God, and
• 29:11
  then it comes back to him and then the nice like, in the air
• 29:13
  and it's like, did she get stabbed?
• 29:16
  Is she alive? So they didn't do any Cuts then,
• 29:19
  right? That's what you're saying.
• 29:20
  I think they did actually still cut some stuff out.
• 29:23
  Just based on what I was reading like, they had Omar Epps with
• 29:27
  the beginning getting some like they reuse the stabbing Rashad
• 29:32
  way more times than actually ends up in the Final Cut.
• 29:35
  Okay, we can, we talk about that scene yet?
• 29:38
  Well, we're getting ready to go into our discussion of it.
• 29:41
  Okay, never mind. Okay, okay.
• 29:43
  So before we get into it, as always, what do you think, is
• 29:48
  the good, the bad, the ugly, and the Absurd of this movie and
• 29:52
  what would be your rating out of 10?
• 29:54
  Steve go. Okay, so the good of this movie
• 29:58
  is we got movies after it, okay? Right?
• 30:03
  Like it was it made enough money to continue the screen franchise
• 30:06
  and we're still seeing that. And we're getting, I would say
• 30:10
  there's two movies in, not in line, but after this, that are
• 30:13
  really, really good compared to other movies that are in this
• 30:17
  franchise. So, without this movie making,
• 30:19
  as much money, as it did to continue it, we wouldn't have
• 30:22
  gotten those movies on times, we can go for, and honestly sixes
• 30:25
  is up there. Six is a lot of fun.
• 30:29
  We're not gonna talk about. Yeah.
• 30:31
  So I think that's well okay. The other good is there is a
• 30:37
  Cavalcade of actors in this movie that went on to do a lot
• 30:42
  of other things. This is a huge cast of people
• 30:45
  that like, holy shit like was this on their upswing, or were
• 30:50
  there people that were not known at this point that they're
• 30:54
  throwing them in here like bro. Luke Wilson showing up as Billy
• 30:58
  Loomis. I completely forgot about And
• 31:01
  I'm like, yo, I want to see the alternate take or the alternate
• 31:05
  Dimension version of Screams. Fuck it.
• 31:07
  I want to see stabbed, I want to.
• 31:09
  Yes, ma'am. That's why you're talking about.
• 31:11
  I want to watch Luke Wilson as Billy in stabbed.
• 31:16
  I want that one of my ideas for a future screen movie is you
• 31:20
  think you go to the theater? You think you're watching the
• 31:22
  next screen and then, right? Until the end of the movie, you
• 31:25
  get the credits and says, stabbed do do music.
• 31:28
  You just watch stabbed the entire time and it would, it
• 31:31
  would make sense. Sense, right?
• 31:32
  Because the whole idea of scream is being a meta commentary on
• 31:35
  horror movies. So like now I ya know that would
• 31:40
  work, you just you change a little bit up here and there you
• 31:43
  make the same movie and you just say it's a, it's a reboot of the
• 31:47
  franchise, right? You, you marketed as that and
• 31:49
  you call it scream and you don't say anything else.
• 31:52
  Just this is the rear starting from square one.
• 31:55
  And then, literally, they play the entirety of the same movie.
• 31:58
  Obviously got to change it a little bit to make it new.
• 32:01
  But then, The end this is step and years ahead.
• 32:05
  Fuck yeah they boom me they got me hard.
• 32:08
  I like it now. Anyway, so back to other good.
• 32:10
  So there's some good acting in this.
• 32:13
  I think some of the scenes with Sidney Prescott like breaking
• 32:17
  down in like, Kind of coming to terms with whatever the she's
• 32:22
  dealing with his she does very well in that Beyond I'm trying
• 32:28
  to be positive. You don't even get a lot of the
• 32:32
  screen voice in the movie, right?
• 32:34
  Right. Yeah.
• 32:36
  It's a man Jackson, right? Even then it's very not is
• 32:42
  intense. Like I know in the newer ones,
• 32:44
  he's an older dudes. He's got more of a.
• 32:45
  What's your favorite scary movie voice?
• 32:47
  But like I The first scream, having a better voice, you know,
• 32:53
  this one, maybe they made it not as good because it's them using
• 32:58
  something else as a voice changer.
• 32:59
  Whatever. I don't know, it's also hard
• 33:03
  like when you're looking back on it you know after having watched
• 33:06
  multiple babies in the franchise because I think comparing any
• 33:10
  Ghostface phone calls when you get the absolute theory that
• 33:15
  exists in scream for those are some of the most graphic.
• 33:19
  And violent phone calls and the franchise.
• 33:21
  Yeah, definitely, true. I would say.
• 33:25
  That's all I got for, for good. I mean, I like the idea of them
• 33:30
  playing with that, okay, movies and media, and video games, even
• 33:35
  they don't touch on it, but doing violent acts in those type
• 33:39
  of things cause people to do violent acts in real-life.
• 33:43
  Obviously me personally, I don't believe in that because I feel
• 33:46
  like if you're that type of person you're just going to do
• 33:48
  it anyways. And And you watching something
• 33:51
  are playing a video games I can be like fuck yeah let's go.
• 33:54
  You know what I mean? I think it's are.
• 33:55
  It's in you already, right? You're going to do it and there
• 33:58
  was a what was the de Jeffrey Dahmer?
• 34:00
  Show that just came out. Yeah, there's a scene in that
• 34:03
  where he's like talking to a preacher and the preacher was
• 34:06
  saying something about, like why are there more serial killers
• 34:09
  now than there were years ago, right?
• 34:12
  Obviously, this is in the 90s but and I don't think there ever
• 34:15
  was, I think it's number one, were able to catch these people.
• 34:19
  Oh, easier and figure them out in before we were in a lawless.
• 34:23
  State of just go do whatever you want.
• 34:25
  So there's people probably killing people all the time and
• 34:27
  just nobody knew about it, right?
• 34:28
  So you can have serial killers that have been killing for.
• 34:32
  You know, decades and nobody has any idea about it.
• 34:36
  So the fact that were in that oh well this causes violence and
• 34:40
  people are doing this and that, and that it's like, no, you
• 34:44
  know. Now you can look at today and
• 34:45
  we're not going to go into this, but why are we having an influx
• 34:48
  of things, right? Well, this is a completely
• 34:50
  different situation. I think we're in now, with
• 34:53
  mental health and stuff like that, which you could look back
• 34:54
  then and say that too. But whatever going to the bad of
• 34:58
  this movie. Number one, the story I'm kind
• 35:02
  of Dove on the thought of they did have to rewrite this and
• 35:06
  make it work because of certain things that came out obviously
• 35:11
  you can look at Marvel movies and certain things where they
• 35:13
  did this on purpose like we're throwing 17 scripts out there
• 35:17
  and one of them might be right that way.
• 35:19
  If it does get leaked. Oops.
• 35:22
  You know, I mean, who knows which one it is and I feel like
• 35:24
  this might have been the movie that made all that stuff after
• 35:28
  happen and they're like you said, oh no, we do that on
• 35:31
  purpose to kind of You know, save face.
• 35:34
  I think this really happened and they were like, what are we
• 35:37
  gonna do now? I like them going back to two
• 35:41
  killers. I like Timothy Olyphant and
• 35:44
  everything he's ever done. I like them in this role, but
• 35:47
  Travis, you said it right? Is.
• 35:49
  What is his motivation here to be a killer?
• 35:52
  Yeah, yeah. It doesn't make any sense.
• 35:55
  It doesn't to me other than he's a psychopath and she found him
• 35:58
  online. Right?
• 35:59
  Okay. Obviously we know her
• 36:01
  motivation. That's pretty easy.
• 36:03
  But why? I don't know.
• 36:06
  Also who is Ghostface when they're killing everybody.
• 36:11
  Right? I don't see Nancy Loomis.
• 36:13
  Oh, I think she definitely made Mickey the the Fall Guy for most
• 36:17
  of that. Yeah, he was the muscle for most
• 36:19
  of it. Yeah, probably right because
• 36:21
  look at the the first kill and I mean, can I get into it now, not
• 36:25
  yet? Okay.
• 36:26
  All right, if you look at all the kills in the movie, Which
• 36:30
  one could it have been Nancy? Besides Randy, I think.
• 36:34
  Yeah, I was gonna say Randy. But other than that, I can't
• 36:36
  really think maybe like, at the recording booth.
• 36:39
  Yeah, I was going to say chasing Galen, do around the, the
• 36:42
  building. Yeah.
• 36:43
  But I think it makes more sense for it to be Mickey because he
• 36:46
  is a film student. So he would know his way around
• 36:48
  that bill through true. Right now this gets into my
• 36:51
  slapstick comedy version of scream to throughout this whole
• 36:55
  movie. You could put the Benny Hill
• 36:56
  theme song over top of it, over top of him trying to kill
• 36:59
  people. It works.
• 37:00
  I mean, that's better for most goes faces though.
• 37:03
  Yeah. But this movie in particular
• 37:06
  like it. I don't know why everything
• 37:08
  about it. Felt very slapstick comedy.
• 37:10
  Like, you could take out the horror, you know, composure
• 37:15
  behind at the music behind it and add in a goof, you know,
• 37:18
  music Trope, whatever thing and everything kind of just fits and
• 37:21
  works. And I want to see that cut of
• 37:23
  the movie and I feel like it would be a better cut.
• 37:27
  What writing would you give it out of 10?
• 37:29
  Mmm. So the I so I thought about this
• 37:31
  for a while because after I watched it I watched you
• 37:33
  yesterday. Scream has a space in the horror
• 37:39
  genre of being that, you know, this has been here forever and
• 37:43
  it's played on all the different tropes and things and it's
• 37:46
  trying to be met and it's trying to do this going back and
• 37:49
  watching this again. After Scream, Six, I think has
• 37:51
  changed my thought process on this movie because I actually
• 37:54
  used to, like, this movie. And again, the cast is huge.
• 37:56
  There's so many people in this movie and like, it felt And it
• 38:00
  still feels like a 90's movie, the first screen for whatever
• 38:04
  reason, feels Timeless. This movie, feels like it is
• 38:07
  stuck in 98 and that could be good, but I feel like in this
• 38:12
  one, it's bad, especially when it comes to the kills, when it
• 38:16
  comes to the gore Enos when it comes to them, talking about,
• 38:19
  upping the ante and then, just not doing it.
• 38:22
  That's gonna fall in like a 5 out of 10 for me.
• 38:25
  Oh, okay, okay. So do you do put this at the
• 38:28
  bottom? Of your tier list of all the
• 38:31
  movies, or is it just kind of at the lower end screen 5 is at the
• 38:36
  bottom and then this is right above it but not by much.
• 38:39
  All right, all right Travis. Okay, so the good, I feel like
• 38:44
  this is a pretty strong follow-up.
• 38:48
  I don't really have any issues with it personally.
• 38:50
  I mean there are things like I think it could be better at but
• 38:54
  honestly I feel like it did a good job of like it's still
• 38:58
  entertaining. It didn't like A shark or
• 39:00
  anything like that. Like I don't feel like it
• 39:02
  doesn't need to exist or anything.
• 39:04
  I think. I feel like if anything it could
• 39:07
  have like the same thing as like any middle movie in a Trilogy
• 39:10
  has like that middle movie syndrome, you know what I mean?
• 39:13
  We're like it's not like nothing about it, like really stands
• 39:16
  out. Other than that, I can't really
• 39:18
  say anything. The bad.
• 39:20
  I think. I feel like it doesn't
• 39:22
  necessarily have a good commentary, like some of the
• 39:25
  other ones do that might be part of it because like the first one
• 39:28
  is making it. So, Whole stance on slashers the
• 39:32
  third one is doing the whole thing about trilogies, but the
• 39:36
  second one it like kind of what we talked about tries to make a
• 39:39
  point about being sequels and how they're different.
• 39:41
  But then again, it doesn't really do anything they like set
• 39:44
  itself apart from the first one, the ugly.
• 39:50
  Yeah. There's not a whole lot of ugly.
• 39:52
  I guess. Like The Hazing bullshit can be
• 39:54
  seen as ugly because that stuff does suck and the Absurd Rebecca
• 40:00
  Gayheart, Rebecca Gayheart. It's back in this thing.
• 40:03
  Better. Be a good absurd.
• 40:04
  It's a good absurd. Yeah, I wish that we got like
• 40:06
  the unhinged urban legend version of Rebecca Gayheart.
• 40:10
  But we don't. We still get like her being
• 40:12
  herself though. So it's all good.
• 40:14
  I'm going to give this 88 Alton. It's still out there.
• 40:20
  Yeah, it's up there. Like, it's one of my favorites
• 40:23
  in the series. Like I it's like not anything
• 40:25
  remarkable but like, I still have a good time watching it
• 40:29
  every time. Can't explain it man for me to
• 40:31
  do you for me. The good is I think it's a
• 40:34
  really good follow-up. I think I think it's a little
• 40:37
  bit more than the middle in a Trilogy because it does set up
• 40:41
  Sydney is story arc in the rest of the franchise.
• 40:45
  Pretty significantly, I'm not in a middle of the franchise kind
• 40:50
  of way but in a like I don't know.
• 40:52
  It feels like we're seeing her Try to be strong and go on with
• 40:57
  her life and then she's going to like, we get this nice little
• 41:00
  like, roller coaster for her, you know, where she's like,
• 41:03
  trying to move on, but she's got some hesitation.
• 41:06
  And then, oh, this is why she had that hesitation and three.
• 41:09
  She's going to basically isolate herself and then Force where she
• 41:12
  coming back out. Yeah, the bad.
• 41:17
  I do think you like I was saying before, I think that you can
• 41:20
  tell that there was rewrites going on, Mickey feels very
• 41:24
  forced Forced. Yeah, like I think if he had
• 41:28
  been sprinkled in throughout the movie a little bit more, it
• 41:31
  would feel different, but it just feels like we need a second
• 41:34
  killer, we're going to pull him in, right?
• 41:36
  Yeah. The ugly wine stains are still
• 41:39
  very much. Oh God.
• 41:40
  Yeah. Miramax.
• 41:45
  And then, the Absurd, I think David Arquette's choice to live
• 41:51
  and yeah, attempting to justify it.
• 41:53
  Always cracks me up. Oh God, yeah, they should They
• 41:55
  should have said, hey, David, like I do a back a little bit,
• 41:59
  please. I feel like, and I don't know if
• 42:00
  this is true because I didn't see this when I was researching
• 42:02
  for today, but I feel like I'd read or heard somewhere that he
• 42:06
  made the choice to limp, and they just worked with it.
• 42:09
  Weston, have the heart to tell him, he's a hardened.
• 42:13
  So it's not so much as look, man.
• 42:16
  I know you're trying your best to act here but you're just,
• 42:18
  you're just not good at it. So I really love.
• 42:21
  This is a follow-up and I'm going to give it a 99, okay?
• 42:26
  I like the we're like we got somebody who's kind of men on
• 42:29
  and somebody. That's why can't somebody that
• 42:31
  loves it. Yeah, that's good. 7.33 is the
• 42:34
  starting average less, rude. All right, we started off at the
• 42:39
  Rialto Theater. Steve, you've been chomping at
• 42:41
  the bit? Take it away.
• 42:42
  Talk about it. All right.
• 42:44
  Number one. Fuck watches a movie without
• 42:47
  watching a movie. Like if this is the first time,
• 42:50
  these people are seeing this movie because this is like a
• 42:52
  sneak preview or something they said or whatever.
• 42:55
  All these people are like hooting and hollering and
• 42:57
  jumping around before the movies like just starting.
• 42:59
  Yeah no, this is like my nightmare for theater
• 43:02
  experience. I can't only if it's something
• 43:05
  that I have seen a hundred times before and we're just kind of
• 43:07
  there to hang out while brightly's on.
• 43:10
  So you have one guy at the Kentucky theater.
• 43:12
  That got mad at us during Evil Dead.
• 43:14
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, at the free showing of
• 43:16
  Evil Dead, get a good Madam, eat a free showing.
• 43:19
  I don't think so. Anyways.
• 43:20
  So these people have not seen this movie yet but they seem
• 43:23
  like they're Mega fans. Why wouldn't they be?
• 43:25
  Be fucking their butts in the seats, like paying attention.
• 43:28
  Nope, we're going to be / and people with these cool ask
• 43:31
  backlight knives, which I want by the way and you know
• 43:35
  everybody gets ghost Mass face obviously like that's cool.
• 43:38
  They everybody, you know cool obviously what happens right my
• 43:41
  other qualms number one why you can bring a girl to a movie who
• 43:46
  doesn't want to see said movie Forcing you to go there.
• 43:50
  So I'll also it happens to be Who Will Smith's wife and so
• 43:56
  then whatever Shenanigans she goes and gets what popcorn soda
• 44:01
  and something else. And I'm sure it was like five
• 44:03
  dollars at that point. Also, that was a small popcorn,
• 44:08
  I'm jealous. She must really married.
• 44:11
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 44:12
  It was pretty big, so yeah. Okay, she does that whatever.
• 44:15
  So now the guy comes out. Does this thing we see the The
• 44:18
  murder scene. This is where I have like major
• 44:21
  qualms with this. If that's who we think it is.
• 44:25
  It's not the woman. Obviously, it's Tim is making
• 44:28
  the only field Mickey. Yeah, he's got to be one strong
• 44:32
  motherfucker to stab through. Not only a particle board,
• 44:37
  bathroom, partition perfectly going through it without
• 44:42
  breaking particleboard apart and then into a motherfuckers head.
• 44:46
  Also, he needs to know where that guy's head is.
• 44:48
  Placed on said, partition, I see him.
• 44:52
  I think I think that that might actually be the Nancy because
• 44:58
  whenever you hear the voice over in the stall, the voice is more
• 45:02
  feminine than, like, Timothy. All we need to the been, like
• 45:05
  she's doing a very Pamela Voorhees, killing my be true.
• 45:09
  But if he's a, if he's a movie student who this is his life, he
• 45:13
  could deal with, know, all that and true.
• 45:15
  Maybe he's just doing it under his breath.
• 45:18
  He could do it. So this was like targeted
• 45:21
  though, right? Like why is why are these people
• 45:23
  getting killed him though? Because their names are more
• 45:25
  recent and Steve right? Or they go to the same College.
• 45:28
  That's a whole there's a whole scene explaining this Travis I
• 45:32
  have never known their names. I just wrote her down as like
• 45:36
  the actor, like Jada and then I did get together do the same.
• 45:40
  So let's go there. There's a scene in which the cop
• 45:43
  there goes Maureen. Phil Stevens.
• 45:51
  See fees full name is Casey, over my head, didn't pay
• 45:55
  attention at that. And that's when they figure out
• 45:57
  that there is a pattern to the killers and that this is
• 46:00
  targeting the screen, Peter, the, you know, people from the
• 46:03
  first movie because before I was like, oh, these are just random
• 46:06
  killings kind of thing. So that's when they go out with
• 46:09
  Randy and they're like, trying to find him, I'm pretty sure his
• 46:12
  like close to the next scene. Okay.
• 46:14
  So again, how is that person? In finding out where this dude
• 46:20
  is listening in, and why? And I know it's a movie, I know,
• 46:24
  but he whoever the killer was is not going to be able to strike
• 46:29
  with enough, Force through that bathroom, whatever into that
• 46:34
  guy's head with a nice open, you know, a nice through it.
• 46:40
  I feel bad for Maureen and the scene, because first of all,
• 46:43
  this character gets a lot more hate than she deserves, and it's
• 46:47
  kind of Does it what to be there?
• 46:50
  She wanted to be studying, she had a test, she did, she came
• 46:53
  along for her boyfriend sake, she doesn't like scaring
• 46:56
  goodies. But then she even apologized and
• 46:58
  she's like, okay, well that watch the movie and she tries to
• 47:01
  cuddle up to him. Oh no, it's a killer.
• 47:03
  And I think Abba nobody's helping I think if you go into
• 47:06
  that situation willingly with all that stuff known and you're
• 47:10
  like wow, duly complaining, about the whole thing the entire
• 47:13
  time. Like I think that that is kind
• 47:15
  of shitty like oh my God, I didn't want to go eye.
• 47:18
  I didn't want to come to this like, but, you know, I'd rather
• 47:21
  be studying, but I'm going to go for you, and then, but I'm going
• 47:24
  to be complaining about it the entire time.
• 47:26
  Even though I didn't have to be here, you know what I mean?
• 47:29
  There's a Scary Movie. 2 does depends on their relationship
• 47:33
  Dynamic though. Because think about when I went
• 47:35
  to go see the new Dragon Ball movie with you and you didn't
• 47:38
  warn me that the Red Ribbon Army was a huge fucking part of it.
• 47:43
  Yeah. And I still give you shit for
• 47:45
  that. Yeah.
• 47:46
  But you didn't do it, like, in the theater.
• 47:48
  Or like, complaining while we were doing it, you know,
• 47:50
  everybody else is being loud in that theater too, though.
• 47:52
  I know. But I mean, so something like
• 47:54
  about enjoying it collectively and then somebody just shitting
• 47:57
  on it the entire time. I just think that people are too
• 47:59
  harsh on this character, that's all okay.
• 48:02
  Yeah, I don't it's Jesus Smith. She's yelling over top of even
• 48:06
  the people that are having a good time enjoying their time,
• 48:09
  their she's yelling at, you know, the screen.
• 48:11
  Oh, don't do this, don't do that.
• 48:12
  Sure, you can do that. But Scary Movie 2 played this,
• 48:16
  the best where they re-enacted In, she's doing the same stuff
• 48:21
  and then gets murdered by everybody in the theater because
• 48:24
  she's being too loud being an obviously, obviously, people
• 48:27
  didn't murder her, this but I don't know.
• 48:29
  I do the whole, the first part of this movie.
• 48:31
  You're the first scene of this movie just makes me go, ma'am
• 48:34
  goddamn, fuck this like do something better.
• 48:38
  So we cut to Sydney getting a phone call and it's somebody
• 48:42
  pretending to be Ghostface who has not heard of caller ID yet.
• 48:46
  And so she starts quoting the Penal code and the guy goes look
• 48:50
  amazing on its 98 people don't know what color it is. 97 start
• 48:56
  97, it's okay. Now that's 97-98 though.
• 49:04
  She sees Cotton On TV being interviewed so she's kind of got
• 49:08
  a little paws of moment. How Ali wants her to come to the
• 49:13
  Delta Lambda Zeta mixer that night and Sydney's not.
• 49:16
  So sure about it. Then there's a News Bulletin
• 49:19
  that says that Maureen and Phil were murdered at the Rialto
• 49:23
  Theater the night before and Sydney immediately was like oh
• 49:27
  God. So she goes to find Randy who is
• 49:31
  film class in film class and he is like fucking in his element
• 49:35
  here. He's this almost feels like it's
• 49:38
  Randy's own fantasy of how it is for him in college.
• 49:43
  Yeah, this isn't actually how it plays out.
• 49:45
  This is all in his head like in reality, everybody just can't.
• 49:48
  Stand him because he just has everything this, a like
• 49:50
  something to say about every movie and he's also wrong about
• 49:53
  the aliens quote, is he? Yeah, aliens is better than
• 49:57
  alien. Is that your opinion?
• 49:59
  That's my opinion. Now, if you're looking at it as
• 50:02
  a horror movie Alien, is better than aliens, but if you're
• 50:06
  looking at it as a whole movie with storytelling and everything
• 50:10
  wrapped up nicely in a ball, aliens is the superior film.
• 50:14
  No, I'm not talking about the superiority.
• 50:17
  One versus the other. Whole different discussion.
• 50:19
  I'm talking about the get away from her, you bitch line.
• 50:21
  Oh, isn't it? Mickey got it, right?
• 50:24
  Yeah. And Randy.
• 50:26
  Tried to correct him and he was wrong.
• 50:28
  Really? Yes, is that not done on
• 50:30
  purpose? Then I don't know.
• 50:33
  Think about who he's talking to here, right?
• 50:35
  He's talking to the Killer and I again, going back to other
• 50:38
  screen movies because if you know, who the Killer is from the
• 50:41
  beginning, they dropping hints through this whole thing the
• 50:44
  entire time. Who's the first person you see?
• 50:48
  Owing to Randy the fucking killer, he's already killed him
• 50:51
  because he corrected them. You don't fucking correct me,
• 50:54
  you're on my way right now. So another thing that they keep
• 50:57
  dropping through this movie is talking about mothers and they
• 51:00
  even bring up Angela Voorhees at one point or they talk about
• 51:03
  this you know where he is start Pamela what did I say?
• 51:06
  Is Angela woke up late today. It's been a it's been a week and
• 51:12
  anyways so they also show Mickey with a video camera.
• 51:16
  A couple times, right? Right.
• 51:18
  And then what do you see later with Dewey?
• 51:20
  And I'm going to say Monica because I can't see her anything
• 51:25
  but Monica, I know it's Gale weathers but I can't see her as
• 51:28
  anything but Monica. So you see them together,
• 51:32
  watching that video and then all of a sudden, it's a videotape of
• 51:34
  the Killer's perspective in like, if you're paying
• 51:37
  attention, you're that guy any film student, you know, he's
• 51:41
  always like a carrying the camera around to it's like,
• 51:44
  that's what recession, right? Yeah, right?
• 51:46
  Yeah, makes sense. Yeah.
• 51:48
  As class dismisses, Randy really doesn't want to talk to Sydney
• 51:51
  about it. He's kind of in denial about
• 51:53
  this could potentially be a new killer coming after them.
• 51:57
  Derek joins in. And that's how we find out,
• 51:59
  Sydney's got a new boyfriend and Randy's mad about it.
• 52:03
  We're in D, Gail shows up, her hair is terrible, but her dress
• 52:07
  is hot. It's like the Harry gets
• 52:10
  progressively worse each movie. Next one is like we talked about
• 52:14
  her bangs. Yeah, I don't care.
• 52:17
  I love this. The hair in this movie because
• 52:18
  again, going back to this movie. Feels like, it is trapped in the
• 52:21
  90s. Yeah, Fuckin Time Capsule.
• 52:24
  I love. Do is line.
• 52:26
  Nice streaks. Keep them.
• 52:28
  Yeah, he meant that as a bird. She's got a new camera, man
• 52:35
  named Joel. There's a journalist movie.
• 52:38
  Yes, absolutely. This journalist comes out to her
• 52:42
  name's Debbie salt. She's like, I loved your book
• 52:45
  asking if she could get a quote, you know.
• 52:48
  She and I love Laurie Metcalf. So it's nice seeing her in this
• 52:52
  room. She plays out really well.
• 52:54
  I think I grabbed, there is a press conference.
• 52:59
  The other reporters are wanting interviews with Gail.
• 53:03
  It's so funny because Gales like asking the chief questions and
• 53:06
  then the interview the reporters are like turning to her asking
• 53:09
  her questions. It's going to spin the whole
• 53:11
  violence in movies thing though. Kind of like what we were
• 53:13
  talking about before Rebecca Gayheart appears.
• 53:18
  That's my whole note is Rebekah Gay.
• 53:20
  Her she is one of the sorority sisters that Hallie is trying to
• 53:24
  join the sorority of. Let's see Dewey appears, he's
• 53:29
  worried about Sydney and came in to check on.
• 53:31
  Okay. This though.
• 53:32
  This is so fun. I feel like they're doing him
• 53:35
  dirty here because he looks so lost.
• 53:38
  Like, he's limping absurdly. And then he's also just kind of
• 53:42
  looking around like whoa, what is this magical place?
• 53:44
  It's just like, what the fuck is a campus and Gail has to go over
• 53:49
  there and like find him and like rescue him and like hold his
• 53:52
  hand. He tells Sydney that the Killer
• 53:56
  is probably already in her life. So she needs to be on high alert
• 54:00
  and he doesn't look like. He feels good telling her that
• 54:03
  knows. Oh, do we Gail approaches,
• 54:08
  Sydney and blindsides her with cotton and shitty stuff right
• 54:13
  there? Yeah.
• 54:14
  Trying to do like an on-the-spot interview and Sydney's like,
• 54:17
  what the hell? They get a puncheon.
• 54:19
  Yay! Yay!
• 54:20
  I love that. The recurring thing in this
• 54:22
  franchise is Gail getting punished for being a dick.
• 54:25
  Yeah, I just don't understand what she was thinking here.
• 54:27
  Like so she thought that her in Cotton were cool with it, right?
• 54:31
  Because cotton thought that this was like a planned interview and
• 54:35
  when Sydney is like, what the hell?
• 54:37
  I'm gonna go with. Uh, so to like, no, she storms
• 54:40
  off field knew what she was doing, but it's kinda shitty
• 54:42
  like you would think that after everything they went through, In
• 54:44
  the last movie, that they would be cool.
• 54:46
  They are not friends. That's, they have never been
• 54:49
  friends. They will never be friends.
• 54:51
  The most they will have, is kind of a mutual sort of respect for
• 54:54
  one another survival instincts, it become friends, and Faith are
• 54:57
  not friends in five. They are not friends.
• 54:59
  They have a mutual respect, they are not friends, I will die out.
• 55:03
  Somebody didn't show. I was going to say somebody
• 55:05
  didn't show up in the last movie, so they were friends. so,
• 55:13
  Gail, and do we have this, like She's trying to discussion.
• 55:18
  Yeah she's trying to talk to Dewey who goes by Dwight now
• 55:22
  it's like it's white. It's get his name right respect.
• 55:24
  Yeah, he's so pissed off at the way that she portrayed him in
• 55:28
  her book though because he's he reeks of an experience
• 55:33
  basically. So the room with his Barney Fife
• 55:36
  fish energy. Do we do the room?
• 55:39
  Do wish we could? He knows the page numbers to so
• 55:43
  yeah, he's pissed. Yeah, is he?
• 55:45
  He and he reads her for Filth there, during all of this too.
• 55:51
  So we cut that night to the Delta Lambda Zeta mixer.
• 55:56
  My favorite line of this entire movie is Portia, de Rossi who
• 56:00
  comes up, they really want Sydney to join the sorority.
• 56:02
  She goes. Hi, no, I really mean that high
• 56:06
  said that like five times to all of our pets.
• 56:09
  Awesome. Tell you loves the word.
• 56:13
  Hi, she does. Yes.
• 56:13
  She loves being greeted more. Anything in the world.
• 56:19
  Make us back to the sorority house, where we get Buffy, or CC
• 56:24
  in this movie. I gotta think that she's in this
• 56:26
  because of, I Know What You Did Last Summer, right because she
• 56:29
  already has an existing relationship with Kevin
• 56:31
  Williamson. Well, I mean, this filming was
• 56:33
  going on almost simultaneously. Yeah, so this was this was just
• 56:37
  a breakout year for Sarah, Michelle Gellar has.
• 56:39
  This is also the first year of Buffy like this is just as just
• 56:43
  a busy year for her. She actually wanted to be
• 56:44
  involved in this because Of the success of the first one.
• 56:47
  So, the shame that she's not a bigger character in this though.
• 56:50
  Yeah, but I do like the moment we get with her.
• 56:54
  She's, you know, she was in that film class at the beginning
• 56:57
  arguing about horror movie sequels and Mickey's boner for
• 57:03
  Cameron. Yeah, I think that he has a good
• 57:06
  point. James Cameron, he walks into a
• 57:08
  franchise. He kind of makes a better movie
• 57:09
  than you did. You're not wrong!
• 57:14
  She gets a call, and she has Who's it's her boyfriend.
• 57:17
  Ted who's apparently? Just a douche when he is drunk.
• 57:21
  Yeah. But then she she realizes, it's
• 57:25
  not Ted and she gets really creeped out and she's like,
• 57:28
  trying to lock the doors and I just think it's also funny that
• 57:32
  knows for us to use on TV since you know, this is the same year.
• 57:36
  She started as Buffy. Yeah.
• 57:40
  Yeah, I think it was 100%. Okay, what was Billy actually?
• 57:44
  Probably show it. Yeah.
• 57:45
  I mean, Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a movie first.
• 57:48
  Yeah, I know. But like, did they?
• 57:50
  So was she already doing Buffy at this point, in which she
• 57:53
  about to do Buffy? She was already.
• 57:55
  Okay, it's confusing. Okay, I guess.
• 57:58
  Yeah, this is a late movie. This came out.
• 57:59
  Yes, Amber. Yeah.
• 58:00
  Okay. Yeah, she ends up getting killed
• 58:05
  and thrown from a balcony and us, it's sad.
• 58:09
  I'm still on my first page of notes and Sarah.
• 58:11
  Michelle Gellar's already gone. Yeah, it is unfortunate.
• 58:14
  We cut to a new scene ever clears playing, I'm never mad
• 58:19
  about Everclear being on a soundtrack, which happens in a
• 58:21
  lot of 90s movies. Makes me happy.
• 58:24
  You like Everclear, they're trying to recruit recruit Sydney
• 58:31
  against panel. Standards there.
• 58:35
  This is not how sorority recruitment supposed to work.
• 58:37
  Is this at that party? The Frat party.
• 58:40
  Yes. There that we're back at the
• 58:42
  back at the mixer. This is when they hear the
• 58:44
  sirens over at the Omega beta Zeta house.
• 58:47
  Yeah, the cops break up the party.
• 58:48
  Yeah. And then we get some red right
• 58:51
  hand action. Yeah, you get some red right
• 58:52
  hand. There's a lot of that in this
• 58:53
  movie, it's in the beginning to write.
• 58:56
  Well, yeah, walking in the theater, it's point.
• 58:58
  I think that's a nice touch. I wonder if that.
• 59:00
  Like, do you think that that plays instead?
• 59:02
  A ball. So I would hope you would have
• 59:04
  to. Yeah.
• 59:05
  Okay. So there's a phone ringing
• 59:07
  inside the house after the party disbands and cydney goes inside,
• 59:10
  the answer it, for whatever reason.
• 59:12
  I don't know, because this isn't her house.
• 59:14
  This is yeah. Why would she think that she?
• 59:17
  Like, I feel like she just feels this responsibility to answer
• 59:21
  phones now. Just in case everything I was
• 59:23
  faced this is like, okay, I'm gonna answer this phone, maybe
• 59:26
  it'll get me killed. I don't know.
• 59:29
  Meanwhile, W is filling Galen on What happened?
• 59:32
  So that's kind of a red flag Debbie.
• 59:36
  Yeah, so when Sydney answers, the phone Ghostface attacks, her
• 59:40
  she ends up running out back. She calls for Derek as she's
• 59:43
  running. He grabs her.
• 59:45
  He's like, okay, you're okay. And then he runs in because he's
• 59:48
  going to try and get Ghostface and Dewey runs in because he
• 59:51
  thinks he's going to help Derek gets attacked and ghost-faced
• 59:55
  runs off. See now, this right here is
• 59:57
  seems like like leftovers of when he would have been the
• 1:00:01
  Killer. Killer, right?
• 1:00:02
  Because he goes in there to try and stop the Killer and then he
• 1:00:05
  like just get stabbed and then like the person runs away like
• 1:00:08
  you just like barely gets wash. And usually, that is a tel for
• 1:00:13
  somebody being a ghost face because it happened in five.
• 1:00:15
  Also like if somebody gets like goes in there to confront them
• 1:00:18
  and they just get likes washed and then nothing else happens.
• 1:00:21
  Usually that person ends up being a ghostface to happens
• 1:00:24
  before this, all the arteries and everything.
• 1:00:26
  Barely got cut, it's fairly inconvenient.
• 1:00:30
  Exactly. So there at the police station
• 1:00:33
  being questioned. Derek is getting stitched up, do
• 1:00:38
  we call as out? The fact that he's Premed, it
• 1:00:40
  was like it's pretty convenient that you're pre-med and not hurt
• 1:00:44
  and Randy. Later calls out the exact same
• 1:00:46
  thing. So yeah, all of these red flags
• 1:00:49
  that were probably in there before the initial script leak.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah. This is where they've got the
• 1:00:56
  big pool. All the dogs in the neighborhood
• 1:01:00
  are barking. This is where they have the
• 1:01:05
  Whiteboard and they're trying to like, figure out a pattern,
• 1:01:08
  trying to figure out any possible suspects.
• 1:01:10
  And this is where they've written out all of the victims
• 1:01:13
  so far and they figure out the pattern of Maureen Steve and
• 1:01:19
  Casey anytime that I hear the name.
• 1:01:21
  Maureen. I just think of her mom.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah, I feel like, it all goes back to her anyways.
• 1:01:25
  So like I just, I guess I didn't connect the dots at that was the
• 1:01:28
  girl in the beginning. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Well and that was the whole point is that it To tie it back
• 1:01:32
  to gadgets, but that's like a very, very loose way to tie it
• 1:01:35
  back but okay, sure. Also.
• 1:01:37
  What are the odds that those two would be in a relationship
• 1:01:39
  together? You know what I mean?
• 1:01:41
  Come on. Maybe that's why they chose
• 1:01:42
  those two. Sure.
• 1:01:45
  It's a big campus, just looking for names of fit.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, yeah, I mean Phil Stevens. The Steve isn't even the first
• 1:01:51
  name, you know. It's his last name.
• 1:01:53
  So they made it work, they made it work.
• 1:01:55
  And CC is what she goes by her. Actual name is Casey, so they
• 1:01:59
  stretched it. Okay.
• 1:02:00
  Then Okay. Okay.
• 1:02:03
  I don't think you're in a place to argue this one.
• 1:02:05
  You apparently blocked out that entire scene in your brain.
• 1:02:07
  Travis that's fair, that's fair. I had no right.
• 1:02:10
  All right also where they trying to kill Sidney then at that
• 1:02:14
  point because they're still not through the list of people from
• 1:02:17
  the first movie. So I don't know.
• 1:02:34
  Yeah, I always wonder though if they're actually trying to kill
• 1:02:37
  her or not, I was gonna say the goal of all these movies is to
• 1:02:40
  kill Sidney, Prescott for some reason.
• 1:02:41
  And everybody just does it all to order.
• 1:02:44
  For some reason, I feel like they always say he had the
• 1:02:47
  audacity to be born that bitch, like they like the goal is
• 1:02:52
  always to do it like in a staged manner though.
• 1:02:55
  Like I feel like sometimes they're trying to Spook her into
• 1:02:57
  a certain direction. I don't know.
• 1:03:00
  Also wouldn't be So, if they ever came out with a Sidney,
• 1:03:04
  Prescott movie, in which she does get murdered, could it not
• 1:03:07
  just be like one scene of her like, oh, what's that noise?
• 1:03:10
  And then, like somebody walks in and just stabs her.
• 1:03:12
  So, they are being an actual murder or not going through.
• 1:03:16
  These elaborate steps to get her feeling anxiety and all the
• 1:03:20
  killers after me and all this like, literally you show up.
• 1:03:22
  Hey what's up bang? You did.
• 1:03:24
  I mean in credit that would be the best way to do it but you
• 1:03:27
  know, what's the fun in that? I also at this point I just Once
• 1:03:32
  submitted to I wants to need to live peacefully for the rest of
• 1:03:35
  your life. Yeah, she's done.
• 1:03:36
  Unless they like bring her in at some point later on in the
• 1:03:39
  series she's done. She's been this killer the
• 1:03:42
  entire time The Mastermind behind all the killers are.
• 1:03:47
  So he's got bodyguards now and she's trying to get some
• 1:03:50
  distance from Derek and she says it's for his own safety, but you
• 1:03:55
  can see there's also some concern for herself that, you
• 1:03:58
  know, this is all happening again.
• 1:04:00
  What if Can't trust the point. Once again she's gotta kill her
• 1:04:04
  boyfriend. Dewey is still being cold to
• 1:04:08
  Gail. The other reporters are still
• 1:04:10
  asking her ton of questions. Debbie's like, wouldn't it be
• 1:04:15
  safe to assume that the Killer's from Woodsboro?
• 1:04:17
  She's like, all I'm saying is that would make sense that's
• 1:04:20
  all. This is where we get the scene
• 1:04:23
  and the dining hall. The I think I love you.
• 1:04:28
  This is like the most like there's no way everybody else
• 1:04:31
  would be clapping along. I know this is like very much
• 1:04:34
  like in everybody claps. Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  You know, you said that while we were watching I that's exactly
• 1:04:39
  what my note says to like and everybody clapped.
• 1:04:42
  My favorite part about this though isn't Derek standing on
• 1:04:46
  the tables singing along its Timothy, Olyphant just kind of
• 1:04:50
  like doing his little dance moves like as a gay.
• 1:04:52
  Side to him. He's like clapping and cheering
• 1:04:55
  him, but he's also kind of like shimmying along with him.
• 1:04:57
  Oh my God, as a psychopath? Yes.
• 1:05:00
  So, okay, let's break this down a little further if they are
• 1:05:03
  because wasn't he? No, he wasn't the original
• 1:05:05
  killer. Then in the original script,
• 1:05:06
  right? Timothy.
• 1:05:07
  All of you want. So then how does him having that
• 1:05:12
  video camera and stuff? Play out, if they still do that?
• 1:05:16
  Unless they added that in later and just sprinkle it through the
• 1:05:18
  movie. But see, the thing is Kevin
• 1:05:20
  Williamson is in our heads now. And this is all part of his plan
• 1:05:24
  from the very beginning. He doesn't want he wants you to
• 1:05:26
  like you just don't know. It's very spontaneous.
• 1:05:29
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  And so this is where he gives Sydney the letters anise.
• 1:05:34
  This whole ego. Is that a big No-No?
• 1:05:37
  Yeah the brothers are gonna kick his ass but it's tradition.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah laughs at that we see a preview for stabbed yes and it
• 1:05:47
  turns out Tori Spelling did get cast as Sydney.
• 1:05:50
  I love that. I love that she has enough of a
• 1:05:53
  sense of humor about that line on the first one to show up in
• 1:05:56
  the city. Like okay.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah, I'll be Sydney's Last Choice about.
• 1:06:01
  Luke Wilson is the perfect casting for Billy honestly.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, it's yeah, it's great. He still looks like way too old
• 1:06:08
  though, right? Well yeah I think that's the
• 1:06:11
  point. Yeah, exactly is funny this is
• 1:06:14
  for Randy goes over the sequel rules with Dewey which way like
• 1:06:19
  it's kind of like the same as well.
• 1:06:21
  I mean it's just Like there's not really anything different.
• 1:06:24
  Like, it's kind of what they were saying in six, like, it's
• 1:06:26
  just a bigger body count more, elaborate scenes.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah. And everything's doubled.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah, yes, that was what they were going for originally if
• 1:06:34
  they were going to have for Ghostface.
• 1:06:36
  Yeah. So there are talking about
• 1:06:39
  different suspects and for a second that kind of cast
• 1:06:42
  suspicion on one another but then they're like myth, which I
• 1:06:47
  always love when that happens, when, these inevitably like,
• 1:06:50
  they'll be like you could be the Killer But that also means you
• 1:06:53
  could be the killer. So let's just say, neither of
• 1:06:55
  us, I think it would make sense like, for Dewey to be the killer
• 1:06:59
  because like the exaggerated limp, like, he's just like
• 1:07:02
  putting on a show but then like in reality is able to just
• 1:07:05
  Sprint. Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Well and this is also where he's like, so why do you have that
• 1:07:08
  limp, man? And he's like, stabbed in the I
• 1:07:11
  have a severed nerve. Okay.
• 1:07:14
  So Joel believes in self-preservation.
• 1:07:19
  He doesn't want to be here. He's like, I just got around to
• 1:07:21
  reading your Book and your last cameraman was gutted and Gail's
• 1:07:25
  like I made that up for the book and start with Sydney and
• 1:07:34
  theater. Professor talk.
• 1:07:37
  They have a whole discussion, he kind of pep talks or says that
• 1:07:39
  she was made for the role of Cassandra and he encourages her
• 1:07:44
  to do dress rehearsal. I'm sure not the least of which
• 1:07:47
  is because opening night is in two days and this is like when
• 1:07:52
  Are doing the rehearsal and like all of those people are
• 1:07:55
  swarming. Her like pretending the stepper
• 1:07:57
  and she's seeing the ghost face mixed in.
• 1:08:00
  Do you think that's her? Having visions.
• 1:08:01
  You think somebody actually snuck one in there?
• 1:08:03
  Oh, I think somebody, actually, she actually did.
• 1:08:05
  Yeah. Is he actually in the scene?
• 1:08:08
  I'm not sure. They have like random shots of
• 1:08:11
  people. She knows, are in the cast with
• 1:08:13
  her. So I think it's pretty easy for
• 1:08:16
  it to go either way. Yeah, so not to take away
• 1:08:20
  anything. I just found a website that
• 1:08:22
  shows. Shows me the body counts of each
• 1:08:24
  movie and who allegedly is in the Ghostface killing them,
• 1:08:29
  okay? So if they're saying that the
• 1:08:32
  body count is doubled from the first to the second, they are
• 1:08:36
  wrong. So, the first movie, there is
• 1:08:38
  eight people who died in the second movie, there are 10 if
• 1:08:42
  you're including Mickey in Nancy, right?
• 1:08:46
  Okay. So then I guess, yeah, in the
• 1:08:47
  first movie, you're also including Billy Billy.
• 1:08:50
  So then there would be six actual go.
• 1:08:52
  Face victims in this movie, there would be 8.
• 1:08:56
  So going back to what I said. The first two people are it's
• 1:09:00
  saying confirm killed by Mickey cc is there's no confirmation
• 1:09:05
  because there's really nothing showing that it could be either
• 1:09:09
  of them right I'm gonna say that he was Mickey I'm gonna yeah I
• 1:09:13
  think as make you to because Debbie was out front talking to
• 1:09:16
  Gale when Sydney goes into answer the phone and Mickey can
• 1:09:19
  blend in as like a person just attending the party.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah. Also he picks her up and throws
• 1:09:25
  her off the balcony. Yeah I'm not seeing Nancy Lumas
• 1:09:28
  doing that, I'll be it, you never know.
• 1:09:30
  Sarah, Michelle, Gellar's teeny tiny.
• 1:09:32
  That's an officer Andrews, and officer
• 1:09:51
  Richards that. Mickey obviously, we can tell
• 1:09:53
  because his face is fucked up from the car accident and then
• 1:09:58
  who dies after that Haley, Hallie they Hollywood, I say hey
• 1:10:03
  my eyes need to be checked, he Hayley, Hayley Hayley, Hayley
• 1:10:07
  Hayley doesn't matter that girl, and then Derek is killed by
• 1:10:11
  Mickey because we obviously see that.
• 1:10:12
  Yeah, okay. Well, okay.
• 1:10:14
  So we weren't too far off them. Yeah, I think we had a pretty
• 1:10:17
  right? Other than the first one.
• 1:10:19
  I want me, I guess the first move like the consensus was
• 1:10:21
  Mickey. Well and also a chance against
• 1:10:24
  me Mickey Mickey. Well she thinks she kills him
• 1:10:29
  when he comes back and then they have to head shot.
• 1:10:31
  But yeah she intended to kill him.
• 1:10:34
  Okay. Yeah, okay.
• 1:10:36
  Okay, after this like really bad dress rehearsal.
• 1:10:40
  Sony officially breaks up with Derek gills Dewey, Randy and
• 1:10:45
  Joel are discussing everything, trying to figure out a way to
• 1:10:50
  pull out the killer ran. He gets a call and he answers it
• 1:10:57
  because he gets the, you know, what's your favorite scary
• 1:11:01
  movie? And he says Showgirls yeah, it's
• 1:11:04
  pretty scary. No, it's verse Ace every time.
• 1:11:17
  So I can be like, so Randy's wandering around the quad while
• 1:11:26
  Gail and Dewey are trying to check everybody.
• 1:11:29
  Who's got a cell phone up to their ear and everybody, the
• 1:11:32
  whole makes a Dunkin Donuts, run.
• 1:11:34
  Anybody who has the audacity to be making a phone call right now
• 1:11:38
  slap, get off that phone. Give me that phone.
• 1:11:42
  And yeah, then Randy gets pulled into the van and it's murdered.
• 1:11:46
  Yeah. People Boombox next door.
• 1:11:49
  So the original cut that they submitted to the MPAA.
• 1:11:53
  Had like they showed him getting his throat cut.
• 1:11:56
  No really? Yeah, you actually see us death
• 1:11:58
  but in the Final Cut obviously all we see is the van a Rockin
• 1:12:03
  and then woman nobody goes in and nobody goes a knocking and
• 1:12:06
  then blood pools out underneath. You know, the MPAA must either
• 1:12:10
  be different people or have relaxed the rules because in the
• 1:12:13
  last two screen movies, we see some gruesome unedited straight
• 1:12:20
  on stabbing. Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah. They're less prudish.
• 1:12:24
  Yeah. Comparitively the standards have
• 1:12:26
  changed. Got imagine back then in the 90s
• 1:12:28
  it was like some pretty old school, people reviewing that
• 1:12:31
  shit. Those people are probably dead.
• 1:12:32
  Now. Listen, every time one of the
• 1:12:34
  two of you says, back in the 90s, my brain just goes back
• 1:12:38
  Jack. Yeah, so the library is Annie
• 1:12:45
  gets an eye on them and bothers some poor guy next to her.
• 1:12:48
  Whose just trying to study, he's so annoying.
• 1:12:53
  This is sneaky I like the scene because they like the guy she's
• 1:12:57
  confused about how she's getting the messages and then the guys
• 1:12:59
  like well you know, we're all connected to the connect the
• 1:13:02
  system here. So it's somebody in this room
• 1:13:03
  that's sending you a message. It's very creepy and how whoever
• 1:13:06
  did that managed to get out of this?
• 1:13:08
  Oh, notices impressive. Yeah, so her bodyguards go
• 1:13:13
  around investigating everybody who's on the computer and cotton
• 1:13:16
  sneaks up and really makes himself look suspicious with the
• 1:13:21
  way. He talks to sit.
• 1:13:23
  Yeah, I could see him being one of the original killers in this
• 1:13:26
  scenario. Like he's straight-up pincer
• 1:13:27
  down. Trying to get the Diane Sawyer
• 1:13:29
  interview. Yeah, it's a it's uncomfortable
• 1:13:33
  to watch the way, he's got hurt, like, pinned up against the wall
• 1:13:36
  and his like, very manic energy right now is frightening.
• 1:13:42
  The police end up taking him in because bodyguards see him like,
• 1:13:46
  you know, a front accosting her for the longest time.
• 1:13:50
  I always kind of got him. Him and Derek mixed up because
• 1:13:54
  they kind of look similar, right?
• 1:13:56
  Like a little bit, I don't know. But I don't get them mixed up as
• 1:14:00
  characters. But the actors names.
• 1:14:02
  I always mix Todd and Derek know the actors like I mix up.
• 1:14:09
  Who is who all the time? Oh yeah.
• 1:14:11
  Definitely because this only yeah only because of this maybe
• 1:14:14
  which is so dumb because I love Jerry O'Connell and brawny
• 1:14:17
  through. Yeah, pick up my penis.
• 1:14:21
  And it's floating. The police can't end up holding
• 1:14:27
  cotton because they don't have enough to, to keep him there.
• 1:14:31
  They, but they are going to send sit in Halle to a safe house,
• 1:14:35
  until they can figure out who's been doing the kills.
• 1:14:39
  Joel. Quits is a cameraman and Gail
• 1:14:41
  tells Dewey that she feels bad about everything.
• 1:14:46
  They want to review some of the footage that has been collected
• 1:14:50
  so far by Joel. So they go to the scabbing.
• 1:14:55
  It's like a lecture hall basic. Yeah.
• 1:14:58
  And they're going to like play the footage there.
• 1:14:59
  Yeah. He's ER, see if they can see
• 1:15:01
  somebody that's like consistently in the crowds for
• 1:15:04
  everything that they film and nothing makes people hornier
• 1:15:08
  than solving murders. So this is true.
• 1:15:13
  Hmm. So they start getting into it.
• 1:15:15
  But then there Interrupted by that old cock block and
• 1:15:18
  Ghostface. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:22
  And this is where there's like secret footage that's been
• 1:15:25
  filmed and they're like, oh man, this is creepy stuff.
• 1:15:29
  That's stuff is creepy. Honestly, like, if you're like
• 1:15:31
  watching this footage of somebody spying on you.
• 1:15:33
  Yeah, yeah, it's and I can't believe I never put together.
• 1:15:36
  That Timothy Olyphant has the camera camcorder the whole time.
• 1:15:40
  Yeah, always. Yep.
• 1:15:41
  So here's one thing. That irked me in this scene.
• 1:15:44
  How is this? Sky playing a feed from what
• 1:15:49
  they originally watched, okay? Like let's say he planted those
• 1:15:51
  VHS tapes and he recorded over top of to put whatever on there
• 1:15:55
  as they're watching it. It turns into a live feed from
• 1:15:57
  up in the top of the room. How's he doing that in that
• 1:16:01
  moment? When they look like that TV was
• 1:16:03
  just sitting here, I was trying to figure that out too when I
• 1:16:06
  was watching it the other night and I I mean back then it
• 1:16:08
  doesn't make sense if it were today you know Bluetooth no
• 1:16:11
  problem. Just cast that shit.
• 1:16:12
  Yeah, that's not happening in this movie.
• 1:16:15
  That's just movie Magic. Not unless unless we can think
• 1:16:17
  that that is the video, Whatever lecture hall area or like he
• 1:16:23
  named over it, tv10 that TV is tied into the giant system,
• 1:16:28
  that's upstairs, right? And so he can just put whatever
• 1:16:31
  he wants on at any given time and has full control over it
• 1:16:34
  without actually showing anything on the TV that he's
• 1:16:37
  changing inputs or something. Because it would have to go from
• 1:16:40
  the VHS input to whatever the live input would be.
• 1:16:43
  It would have to be something like that.
• 1:16:45
  This is I use my three favorite word's suspension of disbelief,
• 1:16:50
  this movie asked that a lot, next one being realistic.
• 1:16:57
  Here's the thing. I love the screw babies.
• 1:16:59
  I think they're fun. I think they're really well
• 1:17:01
  written. I don't think they're all 100%
• 1:17:04
  grounded in reality you know. Sometimes you just gotta have
• 1:17:07
  fun with it. Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  Especially in the screen movies, you know, and I can't help but
• 1:17:11
  think of the opening of Saw for where Carrie Why the detective
• 1:17:16
  is like watching the films at home?
• 1:17:18
  No, it's the opening of the three.
• 1:17:21
  You see the three all blend together?
• 1:17:22
  Yeah. Well, three and four are the
• 1:17:24
  same timeline so that gets extra confusing.
• 1:17:26
  Yeah. Sit when she gets her ribs, like
• 1:17:28
  rip, yeah, that's that's a No-No because the fourth one is the
• 1:17:33
  detective that's obsessed. With solving the cases you're
• 1:17:35
  talking about the scene where she's watching the footage and
• 1:17:37
  then all of a sudden you're like, yeah it streams her from
• 1:17:40
  the closet. Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah. That's even creepier.
• 1:17:42
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:17:43
  Right. Because she's with the What's
• 1:17:46
  his face, Wahlburgers? In the second movie.
• 1:17:48
  She's a singer Johnny, Robert know, they've got a series of
• 1:17:56
  restaurants called Wahlburgers. Oh, really?
• 1:17:58
  Yeah, dude. And then there's a show called
• 1:18:00
  The Wahlburgers where they're like working in them or
• 1:18:02
  something. Then boys are geniuses that we
• 1:18:05
  passed a Wahlburgers. When we went to go see the
• 1:18:07
  Braves in Atlanta and I was like, look, it's a Wahlburgers
• 1:18:09
  and you're like I wonder if it's run by Mark Wahlberg and I said
• 1:18:12
  yeah I laughed and you thought I was joking.
• 1:18:15
  Fuck. Yeah, see how do you all right?
• 1:18:19
  So this is probably one of the better set pieces of the movie
• 1:18:22
  where it leads to a whole Chase into like the recording booth.
• 1:18:27
  I like this whole thing because like, it's just like a nice game
• 1:18:31
  of cat-and-mouse, I think. Also, you have that moment with
• 1:18:35
  Gail seeing Dewey on the other side and she can't talk to him
• 1:18:40
  and like, go spaces, right behind him and then he gets
• 1:18:43
  stabbed, you know, do we get stabbed every But it's nice.
• 1:18:47
  I appreciate this. You know what?
• 1:18:49
  Yeah well they did say he survived because it like cut
• 1:18:52
  into Scar Tissue. Yes again it's one of the
• 1:18:55
  scream. Franchises favorite excuses for
• 1:18:57
  how people survive the I Scar Tissue.
• 1:19:00
  We're not going to get into something else, which what at
• 1:19:04
  the end of this movie, somebody gets shot in the stomach.
• 1:19:05
  And again, fine also somebody else gets stabbed in the stomach
• 1:19:09
  and is not fine. It happened where I'm going with
• 1:19:11
  that, but I'm not going to continue to talk about it.
• 1:19:14
  It's kind of like a normal thing in Scream.
• 1:19:15
  Movies at this point. Like you get stabbed in the
• 1:19:17
  stomach here. Okay, you'll be all right.
• 1:19:19
  Okay, just check it out. Listen, if a Reservoir Dogs has
• 1:19:22
  taught us anything, it's that you can survive a gut wound for
• 1:19:25
  many, many hours, albeit painfully.
• 1:19:28
  Yes, they're actually in pain in that movie and these movies like
• 1:19:31
  oh no, it's okay. They just got my stomach.
• 1:19:33
  It's okay. Just my tumtum.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah let's go guys. Let's go get some dirt and
• 1:19:37
  Rubble. Yeah and Holly are leaving.
• 1:19:42
  Derek gets kidnapped and take it.
• 1:19:46
  Destroy the theater set. They are all gonna get in so
• 1:19:49
  much fucking trouble. If it were, if it didn't get
• 1:19:51
  turned into a crime scene, I think the in game is for him,
• 1:19:54
  they like, come down during the play, right?
• 1:19:57
  And just be in his underwear, tied up would have been nice.
• 1:20:01
  Wait, why? What you want to see a guy tied
• 1:20:04
  up in his underwear? I mean, don't judge.
• 1:20:09
  So as the bodyguards are driving Sydney and Hallie away their
• 1:20:13
  soft, at a stoplight, how he asked?
• 1:20:15
  If they can say, Say where they're going and there's a
• 1:20:17
  hundred percent. I Kevin Williamson New 100%,
• 1:20:20
  what are you doing here? So Sydney had thought one of the
• 1:20:22
  bodyguards was gay and when they ask where they're going the one
• 1:20:26
  that she thought was gay says, Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
• 1:20:29
  Yeah, yeah. That was a nice.
• 1:20:30
  That was a very. Yeah, very pointed joke, right
• 1:20:35
  there. This is another tense scene to
• 1:20:37
  wear. Yeah, accidentally wreck the car
• 1:20:39
  and she has to climb over Ghostface to get out because
• 1:20:42
  it's the cop car, they can't get out of the back door.
• 1:20:45
  Mmm. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:47
  So go space comes in. He attacks the cops takes over.
• 1:20:50
  The car is driving it wrecks. And they're trying to climb out
• 1:20:54
  the front seat that cop has incredibly great grip strength
• 1:20:58
  to continue to hold on to that good for what's it like a minute
• 1:21:03
  of like back and forth and then gets his head.
• 1:21:07
  That's probably the gruesome as part of this movie because they
• 1:21:10
  kind of show that and then like the aftermath of that poll
• 1:21:14
  judges, who's right? That dudes head and then he
• 1:21:17
  still like everything and like and then yeah, that is pretty
• 1:21:21
  violent. Honestly, for this.
• 1:21:22
  And if you're looking at everything else on the whole of
• 1:21:25
  the movie you're like this doesn't fit because everything
• 1:21:28
  else isn't as violent. So maybe that's the one thing
• 1:21:30
  they like well we can let us pull go through a dude's head
• 1:21:34
  but we just can't have you actually stabbing people.
• 1:21:37
  I mean is it was an is it just an act of God at that point,
• 1:21:40
  right? It's just happened, like you put
• 1:21:42
  this guy's stabbing people. We can't have that, okay?
• 1:21:45
  So they have Halle and Sydney have managed to successfully
• 1:21:51
  climb out of the car without Ghostface attacking and they're
• 1:21:55
  running away. And then Sydney goes, I need to
• 1:21:56
  know who it is and how he's like, nope.
• 1:21:58
  Now is not the time. Now, here is not the place we
• 1:22:01
  need to go always results in a death and the screen movie ever.
• 1:22:05
  You never go back you. If you leave to go space behind,
• 1:22:07
  it's too late. You either?
• 1:22:09
  Double tap in the moment or you leave and deal with it.
• 1:22:12
  You can see if she did not, did not hesitate in.
• 1:22:15
  Looked at it first, I feel like things would have been fine but
• 1:22:19
  because she hesitated then try to go back now your friends did
• 1:22:22
  yep. Yep.
• 1:22:23
  Because that that stopping long enough to go back and try and
• 1:22:27
  figure out who goes faces. Lets him get out, sneak around
• 1:22:32
  behind some gumballs and attack Hallie.
• 1:22:39
  So Gail is trying to sneak out of the building and she runs
• 1:22:48
  into cotton, who is very bloody? And he says, it's because he
• 1:22:51
  found Dewey's body and obviously kills, like, fuck you, you
• 1:22:55
  clearly are the killer. So she runs outside and she
• 1:22:59
  steals Debbie's phone and calls it in to the police.
• 1:23:02
  Sydney runs into the theater because I guess they didn't
• 1:23:05
  manage to drive that far before the accident.
• 1:23:10
  The sets drop and this is where Derek drops down, tied up in his
• 1:23:14
  underwear. As many people are apparently
• 1:23:16
  willing to pay to fuck. She is trying to untie him but
• 1:23:24
  then goes face pops up. Its Mickey.
• 1:23:27
  It's a Mickey it's a Mickey and make he's like you know, Derek
• 1:23:32
  And really good. He was my partner, he got you,
• 1:23:35
  all the places you needed to be and Derek's, like, do that
• 1:23:37
  wasn't me and he goes. Yeah, it was.
• 1:23:38
  But then you just disappeared and so just like whatever he did
• 1:23:42
  a great job showing here on this honestly, like just like plant
• 1:23:46
  that seed of Suspicion, well, she had that seat of Suspicion
• 1:23:48
  already because of, you know. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:23:51
  Yeah. So, all he had to do was just be
• 1:23:53
  like, yeah, no. There goes my partner and she's
• 1:23:55
  like, no, I believe that because, you know, that's
• 1:23:57
  happened before. Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Because I mean, like, in the first movie, it was a fucking
• 1:24:01
  game between billions. You and then you know like this
• 1:24:04
  kind of seems like a dialogue that they would be doing just to
• 1:24:06
  fuck with Sydney. Yeah and that moment of
• 1:24:08
  hesitation where she thinks that it could be true is log enough
• 1:24:12
  for Mickey to shoot Derek and be like haha just kidding.
• 1:24:15
  We talked about that bullet penetrating that man's chest in
• 1:24:19
  like showing it because that caught me off guard.
• 1:24:22
  The first time I watched it and the subsequent viewings
• 1:24:26
  afterwards. Still got me.
• 1:24:27
  Jesus dude, that looks like it fucking hurt.
• 1:24:30
  Yeah, it's that's good effects. I work too because it's not like
• 1:24:34
  I mean he's bare-chested it's not like you can just like stick
• 1:24:37
  a little blood pack under his shirt and amen.
• 1:24:40
  Greg nicotero, yay. I think the ropes help but
• 1:24:44
  still, you're right. Like, the effect is is jarring
• 1:24:47
  for this movie. Again, it's funny, right?
• 1:24:49
  Like we talked about through the whole movie.
• 1:24:51
  It's not as bloody and violent as it could be and then in five
• 1:24:54
  minutes, you have to do get in his head.
• 1:24:57
  I don't know what piped if you will.
• 1:25:00
  And then you have this where the guys Gunshot Square in the chest
• 1:25:04
  and it's not like a cut to Mickey's face or Sydney's where
• 1:25:08
  it's happening. It just shows it and then him
• 1:25:10
  like, you know, yeah. And then you get the headshot on
• 1:25:15
  Mickey to it. Yeah, that the end to headshot.
• 1:25:18
  No, he get shot in the head. He just got lit up.
• 1:25:21
  The mom gets shot in the head by, that's it.
• 1:25:23
  Yeah, my notes. I had a slip.
• 1:25:29
  I wrote Billy wants to get caught.
• 1:25:31
  Mickey wants to get caught. But because he wants to he wants
• 1:25:35
  to spend the media. Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  Like violence and media's. What made me a killer he wants
• 1:25:40
  it to turn into this whole thing.
• 1:25:41
  He wants to become famous for that one of EDS photos.
• 1:25:44
  Well, here's one of the weakest attacks, she hits him with her
• 1:25:48
  necklace. That wouldn't have been enough
• 1:25:49
  to that wouldn't have done shit pockets and like same thing,
• 1:25:53
  like she shy, I think it was more of like, he maybe got hit,
• 1:25:59
  like, kind of in the eye with it, like, that would hurt.
• 1:26:02
  Let's be real. Yeah.
• 1:26:02
  What if she slashed him across the face and hit?
• 1:26:05
  Like I area? Yeah, I mean cool.
• 1:26:07
  The accuracy required for that imprisonment.
• 1:26:11
  I mean, you know what she could, she might have been training in
• 1:26:13
  Prescott actually like going in the dojo, but I can see it so
• 1:26:23
  Gail appears and she is being held at gunpoint by Billy's
• 1:26:30
  mother. I love how he says it.
• 1:26:32
  That like, oh, okay. Thanks for spelling it out for
• 1:26:35
  its Nicky would had no idea. Otherwise gills like, no, that's
• 1:26:39
  impossible. I've seen pictures of her and
• 1:26:43
  Sydney is all right, all right, Nancy's.
• 1:26:45
  Like it's called a makeover. And Cindy goes, yeah, I lose
• 1:26:48
  about 60, 70 pounds, have some work done, which is funny
• 1:26:53
  because because, yeah, I mean, it's a good point, like we never
• 1:26:56
  see her in the first movie, but it, I am glad that they did at
• 1:26:59
  least try to address it even if it's in a nice chesty kind of
• 1:27:02
  It's like well clearly people would know what Billy's mother
• 1:27:06
  especially yeah. Well no would Gail nogal.
• 1:27:10
  Wasn't anything but a report. Yeah, but she wrote the book and
• 1:27:13
  she wrote the book she did all that research.
• 1:27:14
  She wasn't talking about the whole murder.
• 1:27:16
  There's no way she wouldn't have seen pictures of Nancy Loomis.
• 1:27:19
  Yeah. Right touche.
• 1:27:21
  So Debbie shoots Mickey and Gail and then she does a lot of
• 1:27:26
  yelling at Sydney. She says that her motivation is
• 1:27:28
  just good. Old-fashioned Revenge billing,
• 1:27:31
  will sit good boy Roy and Cindy Jason shit.
• 1:27:35
  Yeah, it's and he's like, you abandoned him like, which makes
• 1:27:40
  me mad every time I see this, I'm like you left him because
• 1:27:43
  your husband suck. That's kind of a dick move
• 1:27:46
  Nancy. Congratulations, you've played
• 1:27:49
  yourself. Yeah, Sydney ends up hitting her
• 1:27:53
  with a leftover bottle from where they trash, the set.
• 1:27:57
  Hazing Derek. They end up destroying a lot of
• 1:28:01
  these set pieces which Early are real bricks.
• 1:28:05
  My favorite part of this is, she's like climbing up that
• 1:28:09
  wall. And then like the foam bricks
• 1:28:10
  away on Topper, like fall, but the sound effects are, all
• 1:28:13
  actual white bricks hitting. It's like and like they showed
• 1:28:18
  us that they're fake earlier and yet now we're yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Leave that this would all right. Sure.
• 1:28:24
  Yeah. Like it, knocks her out.
• 1:28:25
  She's like, oh my God. I'm dead.
• 1:28:26
  And then. Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  He falls down gets back up again.
• 1:28:35
  Never gonna keep her down after gotta keep her down.
• 1:28:40
  Cotton comes in with a gun and Debbie is like holding Sydney is
• 1:28:44
  a hostage and there's kind of like this standoff moment and
• 1:28:48
  then Sydney is like a kiss Cotton's like met unless you
• 1:28:54
  want to reconsider that Diane Sawyer interview and said he
• 1:28:57
  goes consider it done. And so then he shoots Nancy.
• 1:29:01
  Boom! Arch!
• 1:29:03
  Yeah! Debbie, Debbie salt Nancy
• 1:29:06
  Loomis. Right, and she got shot through
• 1:29:07
  the fucking neck. Don't think that neck was
• 1:29:10
  exposed whatsoever while she was going back and forth behind
• 1:29:14
  Sydney like to me, I get why they did it because you're
• 1:29:16
  getting the final thing at the end with her.
• 1:29:18
  Like I don't fucking know, I'm not taking another chains and
• 1:29:19
  black but I don't think he would have shot her in the neck, you
• 1:29:23
  know? I mean like based on how she was
• 1:29:26
  positioned there, I like to imagine that he was trying to
• 1:29:28
  shoot City to me, like he's a bad shot.
• 1:29:34
  So it turns out Gales alive. We have a quick Mickey
• 1:29:37
  jump-scare and Sydney shoots. Mm.
• 1:29:39
  And then double Taps. Nancy / Debbie, Joel comes back.
• 1:29:45
  I love you like. Oh okay now the killings are
• 1:29:47
  dead. I'm back, I'm back.
• 1:29:49
  I respect it. And you know what?
• 1:29:50
  I think Gail should respect it to you because she is one of the
• 1:29:53
  most self-serving creatures on the face of the planet.
• 1:29:55
  Yeah, she's got to respect the hustle for and then she would
• 1:29:59
  have liked better than this but Gail gets distracted from trying
• 1:30:03
  to film. Any story about this because do
• 1:30:05
  he's alive. The Press are asking sitting a
• 1:30:12
  bunch of questions asking how it feels to be here and she's like,
• 1:30:14
  you should talk to Cotton. Yeah.
• 1:30:17
  Even though cotton kind of like, you know, you had to agree to do
• 1:30:21
  an interview with him to get your life saved.
• 1:30:25
  You say? Fuck it.
• 1:30:26
  We're friends now. She doesn't want to be a media
• 1:30:28
  star anyway though. That's that's true, right?
• 1:30:31
  And clearly has his reason for being there.
• 1:30:34
  This whole time is I want validation obviously why
• 1:30:37
  wouldn't he was put in jail for the wrong?
• 1:30:39
  Thing, and obviously, I'm here to clear my name.
• 1:30:41
  I want help fucking help me. And there is that good seen
• 1:30:44
  earlier in the movie where he Corners are in the stairwell,
• 1:30:46
  and it's like, it's kind of tense and kind of like, wow, he
• 1:30:48
  could fucking just murder her right now but he doesn't.
• 1:30:52
  Yeah, absolutely. Right.
• 1:30:53
  So, because he wants that Fame. And then again, at the end with
• 1:30:55
  that standoff, you're like this going on way too long.
• 1:30:58
  Like is he trying to do something?
• 1:31:01
  Is there something else going to happen?
• 1:31:02
  And he's like, all right, I'll kill her.
• 1:31:03
  And then she's like, give me, give me the gun cotton and he's
• 1:31:05
  like, yeah. Here you go.
• 1:31:08
  Yeah, yeah. I guess is he's not that bad I
• 1:31:11
  guess he was probably just playing along whatever.
• 1:31:14
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:31:15
  Okay. Wait.
• 1:31:16
  I'm sorry. Like I know that that's how this
• 1:31:19
  movie ends but I could have sworn.
• 1:31:21
  I read somewhere that it originally had a different
• 1:31:23
  ending where you see Ghostface up at like that that clock
• 1:31:27
  tower. Yeah.
• 1:31:28
  And it was going to be Sydney and then they scrapped, that
• 1:31:31
  idea it was going to be Sydney. She gets that would have been
• 1:31:35
  fucking, don't see, I don't know.
• 1:31:38
  I'm glad it was cuz I'm glad it was scrapped.
• 1:31:40
  I kind of always wanted and I kind of talked about this
• 1:31:43
  earlier. I've called kind of always
• 1:31:44
  wanted like her to be bad. I don't know why I like
• 1:31:49
  something happened to take one of the main characters and make
• 1:31:53
  them a ghostface. I think it would be most logical
• 1:31:55
  for it to be Gail. Say her career is drying up, she
• 1:31:58
  needs something to write about. She becomes the new ghost face,
• 1:32:01
  it makes the most sense, I'm not mad at that, but I just for some
• 1:32:05
  reason I want this to be all a fever dream and she's locked up
• 1:32:08
  at the end of And, you know, movie and it shows flashes, back
• 1:32:12
  through all the movies, and it's literally, her killing
• 1:32:15
  everybody, somehow, making it work, but then framing it, all
• 1:32:18
  these other people who are actually trying to help, or who
• 1:32:20
  were innocent and then you're like, what the fuck, and then
• 1:32:22
  fade to black. And I said, do you know how many
• 1:32:25
  people that would piss off? That's the whole point of why
• 1:32:27
  you do it. Yeah, and then Sidney Prescott,
• 1:32:30
  just kills herself with a knife. I don't know, it's a pooka.
• 1:32:33
  Okay, that would piss them off even more.
• 1:32:35
  Let's do it. Okay, well, alright, that's it.
• 1:32:39
  For the movie. So Steve are you keeping your
• 1:32:41
  score the same or you changing it?
• 1:32:44
  I'm keeping it the same. There's nothing about this
• 1:32:46
  movie. I did like wants me to change
• 1:32:48
  it. Like, I like this movie.
• 1:32:49
  Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is trash and
• 1:32:52
  don't watch it, but comparing it to the other screen movies or
• 1:32:55
  just other stuff that had come as come out around that period
• 1:32:59
  in time. Like, I don't know.
• 1:33:00
  It just it doesn't feel as good and as rewatchable to me or as
• 1:33:05
  unpredictable, as I thought it was until going back and Hello
• 1:33:09
  was staring me in the face. Yeah, I think I'll probably keep
• 1:33:14
  mine at 1/8 also, but I stand by that.
• 1:33:17
  I think that this is a good sequel.
• 1:33:18
  Still. I don't know.
• 1:33:20
  Like it's like more of the same but I'm not mad about it because
• 1:33:24
  I loved the first one. So, you know, it's not that big
• 1:33:27
  of a deal to me. I'm keeping my Square the same
• 1:33:30
  as well. Okay.
• 1:33:31
  I still have a lot of fun with it.
• 1:33:34
  It is quintessential scream for me.
• 1:33:36
  I'm really excited for when we get to scream six, we really
• 1:33:40
  purposefully tried to avoid spoilers since it's still in
• 1:33:43
  theaters. By the way, if you do want to
• 1:33:46
  hear a nice talk about it with Steve like we did a whole
• 1:33:49
  episode on the decision real. So we did.
• 1:33:52
  It was a great time. Yeah.
• 1:33:54
  It wasn't. As long as our original scream
• 1:33:56
  chat for the years that 2022. Yeah.
• 1:34:00
  Food the five cream. Yeah.
• 1:34:02
  Scream five. But it's not but it is but it is
• 1:34:04
  we yeah, we talked for that for a long time.
• 1:34:06
  I'm I feel like that was like, almost a three-hour chat know.
• 1:34:09
  This one. We did not get that deep and
• 1:34:11
  into it, but we definitely went and talked and had a great
• 1:34:14
  conversation. Spoilers obviously for that one
• 1:34:16
  because we wouldn't like, oh yeah, real hard into it real
• 1:34:18
  quick. Okay.
• 1:34:20
  So Talia was just mostly sleepy during this one, and, but that's
• 1:34:24
  because we'd watch Pool Party Massacre beforehand and she was,
• 1:34:28
  she's a party doubt after. Yeah, she she partied.
• 1:34:31
  Real heart gonna have a pool party.
• 1:34:33
  Yeah. Gonna invite all our friends.
• 1:34:36
  I don't think so. Watch this Edition is that it
• 1:34:38
  was on my lap on and off I would say she was there for about half
• 1:34:41
  the movie. She can't getting she was
• 1:34:43
  getting frustrated because my my binder wasn't my lap so she was
• 1:34:48
  like having to do that thing when she like halfway is on my
• 1:34:51
  leg and she was she just wasn't feeling it.
• 1:34:52
  She would have to be on my lap, respect it, I think Talia is
• 1:34:56
  going to give this, I think she's gonna give it a seven.
• 1:34:59
  She hasn't, it feels like a 7. She was able to sleep through
• 1:35:02
  it. She didn't sleep bark.
• 1:35:04
  Shin asked to go out like she was just Relaxed, she's content.
• 1:35:08
  There was no dogs barking and then being cut off mid bark, so
• 1:35:12
  that was a good time for her. Steve, what is your tagline for
• 1:35:17
  this movie? We're rewriting, tagline
• 1:35:20
  rewriting, taglines, rewriting taglines.
• 1:35:23
  What tagline would you give the screen to scream again?
• 1:35:28
  I'm pretty sure that's literally one of the ones we made fun of
• 1:35:31
  at the very beginning of this episode it is.
• 1:35:33
  Yeah. Scream again.
• 1:35:35
  Look at that. I should be paid.
• 1:35:36
  Much as they were you talk such big a logo could come up with a
• 1:35:40
  better childhood than that. I mean it makes sense.
• 1:35:43
  So we're screaming again, right? All right, let me think again.
• 1:35:47
  Let me thank I can come up with a better one.
• 1:35:50
  Got a bad case of the twos. No, got a bad case of the to
• 1:35:57
  scream scream to prepare to get stabbed again.
• 1:36:04
  So we got to have it get in there.
• 1:36:07
  I mean, you have to write a second movie.
• 1:36:09
  I feel like we don't because I feel like our whole tag line,
• 1:36:12
  segment started because of Halloween to just using the same
• 1:36:15
  tag line and throwing again on it.
• 1:36:18
  I got it, Scream 2, the sequel to screen.
• 1:36:24
  Yes. Okay, okay.
• 1:36:25
  Okay. That's it.
• 1:36:26
  That's it. That's screen to the sequel to
• 1:36:29
  Elliot, okay. But the tooth, the sequel to
• 1:36:31
  part has to be a tool to scream to know Roman numerals.
• 1:36:35
  No, Roman numerals to Knives. Two knives.
• 1:36:39
  All right, I'm designing this show.
• 1:36:40
  I'm going to make it to nice. Okay, umm yeah, I'm excited to
• 1:36:43
  see what you come up with. Yes yes.
• 1:36:45
  See told you I'd come up with one 30 seconds.
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  Okay. We don't do dreams sequels for
• 1:36:53
  our franchise of movies. Yeah.
• 1:36:55
  But who did everybody relate to? I mean, obviously I really did
• 1:37:00
  to Derek because I have been through that whole thing.
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  My man bad memories apparently Yes, who would I relate to buy?
• 1:37:10
  Probably, Randy. I mean him being the not, I
• 1:37:14
  mean, obviously, he's the cocky movie guy, who knows everything,
• 1:37:18
  but, sometimes gets it wrong. I feel like that's me.
• 1:37:21
  I know so much about random facts of movies or like stupid
• 1:37:26
  things and sometimes I'll say something and then I'll like, is
• 1:37:29
  that wrong. Fuck it.
• 1:37:30
  Now, sending it. It's right.
• 1:37:32
  So I feel like I relate to confidence.
• 1:37:34
  Exactly. Just got a, how you say it was
• 1:37:36
  It is everybody like yeah, that sounds right?
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  Yeah, I'm I relate to Dewey because you wimp.
• 1:37:43
  Yeah. And some people are really neat
• 1:37:45
  about it and I have to point out that like I don't have all my
• 1:37:49
  original parts in my knee, and I do have a severed nerve, and
• 1:37:53
  there's also like a screw and a couple bolts in there.
• 1:37:56
  I didn't want to be the one to say it, but you walk exactly
• 1:37:59
  like him in the Travis. I hold, you gotta hold your hand
• 1:38:01
  down here, right? I'm gonna hold your hand in a
• 1:38:03
  weird. Yeah.
• 1:38:04
  Oh my god, dude. Hold on a second.
• 1:38:06
  Is that worse was listen though. Okay.
• 1:38:10
  The worst I think was it wasn't even a full year after my knee
• 1:38:13
  surgery I had barely gotten off of crutches and somebody that I
• 1:38:17
  work with my aunt Jessie it do you think you're ever going to
• 1:38:20
  walk? Normally again who says that
• 1:38:23
  somebody an inconspicuous I was gonna say in Scream 3, the sorry
• 1:38:29
  Scream 3 in Scary Movie 2 of the my germs guide.
• 1:38:34
  Is that not do we holding his Hand like that and then making
• 1:38:37
  fun of it because literally that entire movie is making fun of
• 1:38:40
  Scream to, you know, you're right well it's kind of scream
• 1:38:43
  to and then kind of put your guys and stuff.
• 1:38:45
  Yeah, sure. And then a Nike basketball,
• 1:38:47
  commercial witch, and the changeling, right?
• 1:38:50
  Yeah, CMD. Your TV is leaking.
• 1:38:54
  Sorry, that's the third one. All right, I've got a review.
• 1:38:58
  Going to try and close these through close out real quick.
• 1:39:04
  This is a one star review. I'm not going to read the whole
• 1:39:06
  thing. Sits very lengthy.
• 1:39:08
  There's nothing worthwhile about this film and nothing to
• 1:39:10
  recommend the part. I hate the most seems to be what
• 1:39:12
  most people for some reason. Like the best.
• 1:39:15
  A class full of film, still film students discusses of sequels
• 1:39:18
  are better than Originals. That's it.
• 1:39:20
  You see this is a sequel and they talk about sequels.
• 1:39:24
  Wow. So what that's the irony and
• 1:39:27
  it's not worth a penny. I've never seen a more simple
• 1:39:30
  minded and superficial so-called horror film.
• 1:39:33
  As bad as this, the fact that he thinks it's so cool.
• 1:39:36
  Just makes it worse. The true horror of this film, is
• 1:39:39
  the horrifying ignorance to the audience?
• 1:39:41
  Did this person just get mad because scream to was meta?
• 1:39:43
  Well, then they said, watch urban legend and said, if you
• 1:39:45
  want to watch a campus, who's the killer flake?
• 1:39:47
  Wow. Okay, when that's when, was that
• 1:39:50
  when was this review written? Let me see.
• 1:39:54
  It's a hot take 2000. Wow, that's pretty close.
• 1:39:59
  Yeah, I was thinking, there's no way you write this today.
• 1:40:01
  So, This guy's just mad that a sequel comes out and then it's
• 1:40:06
  talking about sequels. Well duh has the audacity better
• 1:40:09
  thing wasn't super trendy at that point and I think just
• 1:40:13
  maybe it wasn't a thing he really wanted to deal with.
• 1:40:16
  I want to traffic in urban legends.
• 1:40:19
  It's kind of it's not fourth wall breaking meta, it's like
• 1:40:22
  okay. Well we've got these urban
• 1:40:23
  legends and somebody's acting it out.
• 1:40:25
  Whereas in Scream to it's like, hey, there's sequels.
• 1:40:28
  You're watching a sequel? I don't think he wants the
• 1:40:30
  audience immersion. Don't like that, like wink.
• 1:40:33
  Being at the audience type thing.
• 1:40:34
  Yeah. Right I don't agree with it but
• 1:40:37
  I get it. Yeah, okay.
• 1:40:40
  Well, I've got a bunch of listener reviews here submitted.
• 1:40:44
  So we're going to go over to Instagram first, we have Michael
• 1:40:48
  Lee, Howard. He says scream to is one of the
• 1:40:51
  best sequels and horror movie history.
• 1:40:53
  In my opinion, between the cast uemura suspense, murders scream
• 1:40:57
  to UPS the ante. I wish I could go back and see
• 1:41:00
  it again for the first time. I never saw that.
• 1:41:03
  Coming Randy explains the role as adding to the meta that is
• 1:41:06
  the scream Universe. Now you have ten.
• 1:41:08
  All right. Yes.
• 1:41:09
  Michael once again we are back on the same page.
• 1:41:13
  I'm sorry my no but hey keep your opinion, that's fine.
• 1:41:19
  But nah. All right we got somebody else
• 1:41:21
  that disagrees with Steve here, we have Robert its own.
• 1:41:24
  He says my fav one Grace sequel. They ceased being good
• 1:41:28
  immediately after this one. Oh, Robert.
• 1:41:30
  That's a hot take. And we'll get into that next
• 1:41:32
  month. I remember he said in the first
• 1:41:34
  scream that it did more damage to the genre than did good.
• 1:41:38
  That's true. Yeah Roberts got a lot of hot
• 1:41:40
  takes for this franchise. Really does.
• 1:41:42
  Yeah I was gonna say I get what he's saying though like that
• 1:41:44
  this kind of not interrupted but made a change to the way.
• 1:41:48
  Horror was probably going in that specific you know era it
• 1:41:52
  made the slasher a bigger thing and then it made it more like
• 1:41:56
  not scary but more like the urban legend the fuck.
• 1:41:59
  And I Know What You Did Last Summer where it's kind of like
• 1:42:01
  can't be stupid funny but Still could be scary, right?
• 1:42:05
  Yeah, yeah. Like it's not focusing on the
• 1:42:07
  hordes focusing more on, like pointing out the things in the
• 1:42:11
  genre. That stand out.
• 1:42:13
  Everybody thinks of it. All made them into like teen
• 1:42:17
  movies. Where it wasn't everybody needs
• 1:42:19
  to see this. It's like, no, this is pointed
• 1:42:21
  towards a teen high school demographic.
• 1:42:23
  That to me is what happened with all of these movies that came
• 1:42:26
  after screen? I mean unless yeah that's
• 1:42:29
  exactly that was the start of the Teen scream.
• 1:42:31
  I mean, it's like Kevin Williamson to the Core like hey
• 1:42:33
  yeah do it Dawson's Creek scream?
• 1:42:35
  I know he did last summer, The Faculty.
• 1:42:38
  I wanted somebody to Crowley in H2O.
• 1:42:40
  Yeah, I wanted somebody to tall like somebody in dollar
• 1:42:43
  equipped. Sorry no, no, wait wait, what?
• 1:42:46
  Huh? I said, I wanted somebody to
• 1:42:47
  drown somebody in Dawson's Creek.
• 1:42:50
  Okay, okay, sorry. Okay.
• 1:42:54
  Next up we have in Feldman. He says poor Andy Hurley.
• 1:42:58
  I did to him the most. Hey it's got a crying emoji and
• 1:43:02
  the Podcast killing time says easily top three sequel of all
• 1:43:08
  time and did a great job, helping build a strong
• 1:43:10
  franchise. I agree.
• 1:43:12
  Okay, I agree with that. Clearly we've discovered not
• 1:43:14
  everybody agrees but I don't agree with a broad top three
• 1:43:18
  sequels of all time, but I agree with the second Point.
• 1:43:22
  Okay? I found the final one is one
• 1:43:25
  that Steve can relate to. It's from aquellia.
• 1:43:27
  Boobs. He says, I just can't watch this
• 1:43:29
  and not think of fucking scary movie or they kill Brenda.
• 1:43:32
  The in the theater. 100%. That's that's my brain goes to
• 1:43:36
  that same thing to like and it's funny.
• 1:43:38
  I think I've seen scream sorry scary movie to see.
• 1:43:41
  I think it's scream Scary Movie, 2 more than I've seen scream to
• 1:43:45
  Just Kill Ya. I like laughs and stupidity and
• 1:43:47
  I'm glad we're talking about this because we watch screens
• 1:43:50
  are Scary, Movie 3. And I was like, I like that bit
• 1:43:53
  that they keep killing Brenda and she keeps coming back and
• 1:43:55
  you're like this is the only time they've ever killed Brenda
• 1:43:57
  and I was like I'm pretty sure she's died other times, you
• 1:44:00
  know, I didn't remember that but now that I'm being called on the
• 1:44:04
  spire. On the episode here.
• 1:44:06
  I'll have to admit that I was wrong.
• 1:44:09
  I had nowhere to go, hold on. You could say she didn't
• 1:44:11
  actually die in the opening of Scary Movie 2.
• 1:44:14
  You know. I mean they actually get stabbed
• 1:44:16
  a lot and then Falls over on the stage.
• 1:44:18
  Like will see. Those are the rest of the Movie
• 1:44:22
  Scary Movie 2. Yes yes.
• 1:44:23
  She's like she's at the haunted house Brenda's.
• 1:44:26
  Is she? Yeah.
• 1:44:28
  Because I remember like that whole scene where they're in the
• 1:44:29
  basement. Yeah.
• 1:44:30
  You're right. Yeah.
• 1:44:31
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:44:31
  She like. Abandoned.
• 1:44:33
  Cindy, I need to watch Scary Movie 2.
• 1:44:35
  Again. You do it.
• 1:44:36
  So fucking amazing movie. We watched it.
• 1:44:38
  Not too long ago. I am.
• 1:44:40
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:44:42
  That's it for the reviews. Okay.
• 1:44:47
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• 1:44:50
  Whose turn is it? Next, I'll pick a scary movie
• 1:44:52
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• 1:44:58
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• 1:45:01
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• 1:45:07
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• 1:45:08
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• 1:45:10
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• 1:45:13
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• 1:45:34
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• 1:45:37
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• 1:45:43
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• 1:45:47
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• 1:45:49
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• 1:45:52
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• 1:46:01
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• 1:46:03
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• 1:46:05
  do full video. So you can see our faces and
• 1:46:08
  make fun of them, do whatever you want.
• 1:46:11
  But hey, thanks again for having me on.
• 1:46:14
  Always a pleasure to be on here. It's always great.
• 1:46:15
  Reviewing the scream franchise with you guys.
• 1:46:19
  Yes. And again like we've talked to
• 1:46:21
  scream five and six on his show. So if you want to like, hear us
• 1:46:25
  talk about that before we actually get to those movies.
• 1:46:27
  You can go listen to it on his also Jaws, which Travis had
• 1:46:30
  never seen before. Oh, yes.
• 1:46:32
  And pumpkin head and pumpkin head.
• 1:46:35
  We've talked a lot with Steve we had and really just check out
• 1:46:38
  his show in general because like it's a fucking good show.
• 1:46:41
  I listen to you guys all the time, too.
• 1:46:42
  So thanks, I appreciate that. We try, we try to do your thing.
• 1:46:45
  Try to be funny. We try to liven things up and
• 1:46:48
  get people interested in movies that you might not have
• 1:46:50
  remembered or talked about or seen before.
• 1:46:53
  So, yeah. Alright, so with that all being
• 1:46:56
  said, and done. We thank you guys for being here
• 1:46:58
  and we'll see you all next time. All right, mate.
• 1:47:15
  All right, we did it at that.