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- 1:58Speaker 2: our nine o'clock hour, and let's face it, we have
- 2:00Speaker 2: one big topic that we've been discussing for most of
- 2:03Speaker 2: the show. I've tried not to do it for all
- 2:06Speaker 2: of the show, just for sanity reasons, but Andrews won't
- 2:09Speaker 2: have it. Nope, he will even work it into our
- 2:12Speaker 2: palette cleansing NBA segments and JSN segment that I did
- 2:17Speaker 2: earlier in the program. But yes, the Mariners last night
- 2:21Speaker 2: lost another tough one. I said, really tough way to
- 2:24Speaker 2: lose a game. Not the worst loss of the year,
- 2:27Speaker 2: I think, blowing a six run lead five run lead
- 2:32Speaker 2: earlier this season of the ninth inning was even worse.
- 2:36Speaker 2: But certainly considering that a Major League Baseball organization announced
- 2:43Speaker 2: to the world, we're basically going to experiment tonight, which,
- 2:48Speaker 2: let's be honest with it. For a lot of you,
- 2:50Speaker 2: that didn't set well with you from the beginning, right,
- 2:52Speaker 2: how dare you experiment? I mean, all of these games,
- 2:55Speaker 2: counting the standings, and it's not early bastards, but they
- 3:03Speaker 2: decided to use game fifty of the season to try
- 3:08Speaker 2: to experiment with something that I don't remember ever, you know,
- 3:13Speaker 2: being trying to be achieved in major league baseball. I'm
- 3:16Speaker 2: sure it's happened at one point, sure, but Ryan Heay
- 3:20Speaker 2: just told us yesterday. Teams in the minor leagues used
- 3:23Speaker 2: to do this all the time. He said he remembered
- 3:24Speaker 2: the Astros organization doing it where you would schedule two
- 3:29Speaker 2: different starters to pitch in the same game they'd pitch
- 3:33Speaker 2: for one would pitch for four innings and then the
- 3:35Speaker 2: other would pitch for four or five innings or whatever
- 3:37Speaker 2: the case may be. They don't really focus on records
- 3:42Speaker 2: though at the minor league level, where at the major
- 3:44Speaker 2: league level it seems like we live and die with
- 3:49Speaker 2: every win and loss. And so the Mariners took a
- 3:53Speaker 2: regular season game last night to experiment with having too
- 3:57Speaker 2: many pitchers for too few of slots. So six starters,
- 4:01Speaker 2: we want to use them all. We know we're going
- 4:03Speaker 2: to need them all before the season comes to a close,
- 4:06Speaker 2: but we don't want to scrap the five man rotation
- 4:09Speaker 2: because that's just one extra day between every pitcher starts.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And some of our guys are really good and we
- 4:18Speaker 2: want them to throw as often as possible. So they
- 4:21Speaker 2: did a six man rotation one time through, and then
- 4:24Speaker 2: this time they tried this piggyback experiment, and that is
- 4:29Speaker 2: Bryce Miller is going to start. He's going to go
- 4:32Speaker 2: five ish innings, and then god willing, he just hands
- 4:36Speaker 2: it straight over to Luis Castillo, who will pitch out
- 4:39Speaker 2: of the bullpen for the first time in a regular
- 4:41Speaker 2: season game in his career. And then we go four
- 4:44Speaker 2: innings with Luis Castillo, and we win the game comfortably
- 4:46Speaker 2: six to nothing. I mean, Jerry Depoto nearly went as
- 4:49Speaker 2: far as saying that during the broadcast last night, what
- 4:51Speaker 2: do you want to get out of this? Well, ideally
- 4:53Speaker 2: Miller pitches his share, Castillo pitches his share, we win
- 4:58Speaker 2: the game easily and we don't have use anybody else.
- 5:01Speaker 2: That's what they were trying to achieve. But we also
- 5:05Speaker 2: know that Jose Ferrer was going to be used as
- 5:08Speaker 2: a bridge if Miller got into any trouble in the
- 5:12Speaker 2: middle of an inning, so that Castillo didn't have to
- 5:14Speaker 2: come in the middle of the inning, because that would
- 5:16Speaker 2: be really weird for somebody who's only been a starting pitcher.
- 5:19Speaker 2: And then obviously there was a thought that Andres Munos
- 5:25Speaker 2: is available if Castillo gets into any trouble, and what
- 5:29Speaker 2: I mean by that, tying run gets on second base,
- 5:32Speaker 2: we'll go to Munyos, even if the umpires won't allow
- 5:36Speaker 2: us to do it when we want to. So that's
- 5:38Speaker 2: the umpire's fault. So that's what happened last night. And
- 5:41Speaker 2: you know, I think it was overall kind of a
- 5:44Speaker 2: successful experiment from this standpoint. Miller was great, Steele was good,
- 5:49Speaker 2: Munno's wasn't bad. He got bit by a lot of
- 5:52Speaker 2: bad luck, and he also inherited traffic. The problem I
- 5:57Speaker 2: think with it was you needed to have a policy
- 6:01Speaker 2: where if it was a one run game, we can
- 6:04Speaker 2: scrap everything, even in the ninth inning, one run game.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Let's let Munnos close it out. That's what he does
- 6:11Speaker 2: for a living. But they were trying to get away
- 6:13Speaker 2: in this experiment with not having to use a relief pitcher,
- 6:17Speaker 2: because that is one of the attributes toward using this
- 6:22Speaker 2: piggyback system. If we could give our entire bullpen in
- 6:26Speaker 2: essence the night off, that'd be really beneficial. So that's
- 6:30Speaker 2: what they were trying to achieve last night. It ends
- 6:32Speaker 2: up blowing up in spectacular fashion in the ninth inning
- 6:36Speaker 2: and you lose the game two to one, and all
- 6:38Speaker 2: Mariner fans have lost their minds. So we've been discussing
- 6:42Speaker 2: this all mourning long. So if we don't hit on
- 6:45Speaker 2: the points you want us to hit on, I apologize.
- 6:47Speaker 2: I guarantee you We've already done it four or five times. Yes,
- 6:50Speaker 2: So if you want to go back and listen to
- 6:51Speaker 2: the podcast, you can do that. But one thing that
- 6:54Speaker 2: I've made the choice of doing as the one regular
- 6:57Speaker 2: on the show here today is running it through different
- 7:01Speaker 2: filters and this same problem that we experienced last night.
- 7:06Speaker 2: So we've run it through the front office filter, the
- 7:08Speaker 2: Luis Castillo filter. We've also run it through the Offensive
- 7:12Speaker 2: side of things, and we're gonna run it through the
- 7:13Speaker 2: Bryce Miller filter, but let's run it through the manager's filter.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And Dan Wilson last night, who I don't know anders
- 7:22Speaker 2: if he was entirely comfortable with the entire operation to
- 7:25Speaker 2: begin with.
- 7:26Speaker 1: No, I don't think he was. And you could tell
- 7:28Speaker 1: by when we in Mariners morning after at six point
- 7:30Speaker 1: thirty this morning, Travis played a clip from him kind
- 7:33Speaker 1: of discussing the process in going to Munos, going to
- 7:38Speaker 1: Castillo to start the ninth excuse me, and then going
- 7:40Speaker 1: to Munos after that? You know, is there any thought
- 7:43Speaker 1: processing going to Munos to start the inning? You could
- 7:46Speaker 1: tell he was a little kind of iffy and what
- 7:47Speaker 1: he should say, so to speak, because maybe he doesn't
- 7:50Speaker 1: know the exact reason why you wouldn't be going to Munhos.
- 7:54Speaker 1: The biggest question to me with the Dan Wilson side
- 7:57Speaker 1: of things is how how much freedom does he have?
- 8:01Speaker 1: How much wiggle room does he have to make adjustments
- 8:05Speaker 1: in game? Because obviously he should and Travis said this
- 8:08Speaker 1: earlier today, he should have the ability to make adjustments
- 8:12Speaker 1: on the fly and be like, hey, you know this
- 8:14Speaker 1: is how it's going. Our offense has gotten one hit
- 8:16Speaker 1: in one run all game long. We're going to have
- 8:19Speaker 1: to win this game one zero. I want to make
- 8:21Speaker 1: sure that Castillo leaves the game and leaves this experience
- 8:25Speaker 1: with a positive, you know, frame of mind. Hey, I
- 8:28Speaker 1: did my job, I got through two winnings. Munios comes
- 8:31Speaker 1: in and shuts the door. Everyone feels good about themselves, right,
- 8:34Speaker 1: And there's no guarantee that would have happened either, h
- 8:36Speaker 1: Munyos could have come in and struggled, and the same
- 8:38Speaker 1: thing would have happened.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Who knows.
- 8:40Speaker 1: But I want to know how much wiggle room Dan
- 8:43Speaker 1: Wilson has to make adjustments on the fly. If he
- 8:46Speaker 1: does have that wiggle room, we need more from the manager.
- 8:49Speaker 1: If he doesn't, he needs to be allowed that wiggle room.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I think he's called a little bit between worlds. I
- 8:55Speaker 2: think he might tell you. I think that's why he
- 8:57Speaker 2: looks so flummixed right now. I'm he doesn't to me.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Every time they show him on camera, he doesn't know
- 9:03Speaker 2: whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass. You know,
- 9:06Speaker 2: That's kind of the way it looks when I look
- 9:08Speaker 2: at Dan Wilson right now, And so I think he's
- 9:11Speaker 2: caught a little bit between worlds, because I promise you
- 9:14Speaker 2: they had a meeting eight hours before game time, five
- 9:17Speaker 2: hours whenever. It was between Jerry, Justin, Dan and Pete
- 9:21Speaker 2: and I don't know who else was in the room,
- 9:23Speaker 2: probably some scouts, and they came up with the game
- 9:26Speaker 2: plan of what they were going to go with. And
- 9:28Speaker 2: so I'm I have been told over and over by
- 9:32Speaker 2: the biggest pillars in the organization that they do not
- 9:36Speaker 2: sit there on the phone or text back and forth
- 9:39Speaker 2: during the game. In game decisions including lineups, are Dan's.
- 9:43Speaker 2: That's Dan's, and it was Scott's, and it's Dan's, and
- 9:47Speaker 2: Scott was probably the thing he did best, yes, make
- 9:49Speaker 2: pitching changes, and Dan seems to struggle with it a
- 9:53Speaker 2: little bit, or at least I don't agree with it. Yeah,
- 9:55Speaker 2: And so I do believe that Dan is caught between.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I know what we discussed up there, and I'm not
- 10:04Speaker 2: sure the way the game's going what I if it's
- 10:07Speaker 2: going the way that we discussed it upstairs. I mean,
- 10:10Speaker 2: I got a starting pitcher with a no hitter. What
- 10:12Speaker 2: am I supposed to do with that? He's supposed to
- 10:13Speaker 2: be out of the game right now, right And I
- 10:16Speaker 2: know that we agreed upstairs that Luis Castillo was going
- 10:19Speaker 2: to was going to pitch a bulk because that's the
- 10:23Speaker 2: idea behind it. We want to keep them lengthened out.
- 10:27Speaker 2: And yet it's a one run game. How do I
- 10:29Speaker 2: not use Munyos here? And so I think he's caught
- 10:32Speaker 2: a little bit between worlds and he's just like a
- 10:35Speaker 2: hitter can be hot or cold. I think he's just
- 10:37Speaker 2: ice cold right now. Yeah, I don't think he can
- 10:40Speaker 2: make the right decision. What I want to see from
- 10:43Speaker 2: all of this is, at the very least, I don't
- 10:47Speaker 2: mind trying this again, but we've got to handle it
- 10:51Speaker 2: differently based off of situation. I told you yesterday that
- 10:56Speaker 2: I've been talking about possibly doing this as late as
- 10:59Speaker 2: last year. I was talking about doing this, and I
- 11:02Speaker 2: didn't think they would ever try it. But here they
- 11:04Speaker 2: are trying it. But you don't think that they're going
- 11:08Speaker 2: to just live by a script. And so to me,
- 11:12Speaker 2: I think Dan Wilson, if he has the keys, he
- 11:16Speaker 2: sees Bryce Miller throwing a no hitter and dominating another opponent,
- 11:20Speaker 2: and he's only at sev seventy two pitches, he should
- 11:24Speaker 2: be able to make the decision. All right, I'm going
- 11:28Speaker 2: with Bryce, and I'll deal with the wrath afterwards if
- 11:31Speaker 2: it blows up in my face. But I'm the manager
- 11:34Speaker 2: and I gotta go with what where it's going right now,
- 11:38Speaker 2: because I don't think Bryce should have even been taken
- 11:40Speaker 2: out of the game. But the decision worked, The for
- 11:44Speaker 2: Rare decision worked, the Castillo decision work right. The only
- 11:47Speaker 2: thing that didn't work last night was you're up one.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Do you stick with your script or do you go
- 11:57Speaker 2: with what you trust? And if you are already playing
- 12:00Speaker 2: on getting Munnos up just in case, then why mess
- 12:03Speaker 2: around with it? It's perfectly acceptable in this experimental night
- 12:08Speaker 2: that Luis Castillo just works two innings leaves with his
- 12:12Speaker 2: head held high. I mean, having done the job. And
- 12:15Speaker 2: then let's let the closer who's used to closing out
- 12:18Speaker 2: one run games do it, because Andres isn't exactly on
- 12:21Speaker 2: fire right now, but let him go into the game
- 12:25Speaker 2: with nobody on base. So I do think to answer
- 12:29Speaker 2: your question, Dan Wilson's just trapped between worlds. He knows
- 12:33Speaker 2: what the plan is, and yet I think he's worried
- 12:38Speaker 2: about not executing the plan, and then it blows up
- 12:43Speaker 2: in his face and he's not confident right now with
- 12:47Speaker 2: his decisions in tight games to do the right thing.
- 12:50Speaker 2: So he's just falling back on well Jerry said, yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 2: Justin told me to do it. I mean, and I
- 12:57Speaker 2: know he would never do that in a press conference,
- 13:00Speaker 2: and I kind of feel like that's the vibe he's carrying. Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Look, ideally, the way all of this works out is
- 13:05Speaker 1: you have a strategy of you know, like you said,
- 13:08Speaker 1: the actual decision to use the piggyback what came from
- 13:13Speaker 1: above most likely.
- 13:14Speaker 2: I believe, but I think part sure, it.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Was part of the conversation, but the decision, the full
- 13:18Speaker 1: decision is like, hey, this is what we're gonna do.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Okay. The strategy about how a.
- 13:23Speaker 1: General rule about how you want to go about winning
- 13:27Speaker 1: a baseball game, whether it's pitching decisions, whether it's pinch
- 13:31Speaker 1: hitting decisions as well, comes from the strategists, so to speak,
- 13:35Speaker 1: the general manager of the president of baseball see exactly.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And then ideally you have a manager who in the
- 13:41Speaker 1: moments can know what the general strategy is and operate
- 13:45Speaker 1: that to the best of his ability, but make little
- 13:47Speaker 1: tweaks based off of how he feels the game is
- 13:50Speaker 1: going right now, should have that power, absolutely, and I
- 13:53Speaker 1: don't feel like it seems to me. And I think
- 13:55Speaker 1: the way you're talking through that makes me think he's
- 13:58Speaker 1: a little overwhelmed. I think he I think he's overwhelmed.
- 14:01Speaker 1: I don't want to say over his head, because there
- 14:04Speaker 1: are things that he is okay at as a baseball manager,
- 14:07Speaker 1: but he feels like he's overwhelmed and he almost is
- 14:10Speaker 1: just relying on the script because he doesn't know like.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I'm serving two masters. I'm serving the strategy that we
- 14:17Speaker 2: all agreed on, yes, in the same room, and I'm
- 14:20Speaker 2: also trying to serve the game and my instincts for
- 14:24Speaker 2: managing the game, and the two are just getting clouded
- 14:28Speaker 2: right now in my opinion. And I've said this before
- 14:31Speaker 2: about Dan. When he can just manage a game to win, yeah,
- 14:34Speaker 2: but when he has to manage anything else like early,
- 14:38Speaker 2: that's why he struggles early in the season, because I
- 14:40Speaker 2: got to manage workload and I got to manage pitch counts.
- 14:43Speaker 2: I'm not just managing to win the game. I think
- 14:45Speaker 2: it's why he struggled in the first half and was
- 14:48Speaker 2: better in the second half a year ago, and then
- 14:49Speaker 2: he got in the playoffs and old Dan Wilson showed
- 14:52Speaker 2: up again because that's a completely different game that he
- 14:56Speaker 2: hasn't managed before, and I thought that overwhelmed him. So
- 15:00Speaker 2: now we're already dealing with I got injuries, I got
- 15:06Speaker 2: pitch counts, I got workload. I got six starters. I
- 15:10Speaker 2: got five starters. I got two reliefs that I count
- 15:14Speaker 2: on are in the on the injury list. I got
- 15:17Speaker 2: guys coming back from the IL. I got guys I
- 15:20Speaker 2: have to use every other day, and then I've got
- 15:22Speaker 2: some guys I can use every day. And now you
- 15:25Speaker 2: add a piggyback. Did we expect him to execute it flawlessly?
- 15:33Speaker 2: I didn't. I did not either, And yet, really the
- 15:36Speaker 2: only problem I had with it, I would have kept
- 15:38Speaker 2: Miller in the game.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Sure.
- 15:40Speaker 2: To me, that is the instincts of a manager. Sorry, Jerry,
- 15:43Speaker 2: I got a guy that they're not touching one hit
- 15:47Speaker 2: and he is on fire. I'm not taking him out
- 15:50Speaker 2: of the game, and I'll deal with you later. So
- 15:53Speaker 2: I didn't agree with that decision, but it worked out.
- 15:55Speaker 2: It was fine. Yep, Castile looked really good. It's that
- 16:00Speaker 2: ninth inning is what it really boils down to. Like
- 16:03Speaker 2: we've said many times before, the biggest problem last night
- 16:06Speaker 2: is we can't hit ye and we certainly can't hit
- 16:08Speaker 2: left handers. Yeah, that's the biggest problem. And then the
- 16:12Speaker 2: reason we lost was Will Venable undoing all that strategy
- 16:18Speaker 2: first and second, Okay, now we can go. Can I
- 16:20Speaker 2: go to Munyos? Now? Hey? Up? What about now? Can
- 16:23Speaker 2: I go? Now? Can I go get Munios? Can I
- 16:26Speaker 2: put him in the game now? Or is it a
- 16:28Speaker 2: two pliver? I don't even know. Didn't look that one up.
- 16:31Speaker 2: And so you go through all that strategy you think, Okay,
- 16:36Speaker 2: I still think Mooney can get us out of this.
- 16:38Speaker 2: And what does Venable do? Double steel with a pinch
- 16:42Speaker 2: runner and they stole it easily and it blew up
- 16:46Speaker 2: in their faces. Now you got to draw the infield
- 16:49Speaker 2: in and now two little duck farts get through the
- 16:51Speaker 2: infield and beat you because that double steel undid all
- 16:57Speaker 2: of the strategy by the Mariners think tank going into
- 17:00Speaker 2: the game.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just I don't understand why there wasn't.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Like I've said this before, with the whole can I
- 17:09Speaker 1: take Castillo out now and put in Munos? The reason
- 17:12Speaker 1: why Dan Wilson couldn't do it is because Pete Woodworth
- 17:15Speaker 1: already went out there to buy them some more time
- 17:18Speaker 1: to get Munos ready. Why wasn't he ready initially? If
- 17:21Speaker 1: you know that if that is an option, you know
- 17:24Speaker 1: that you're waiting for someone to get in scoring position.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Why isn't he ready at least to start the ending?
- 17:29Speaker 2: I would have? And Ardios looked like he was caught
- 17:31Speaker 2: between worlds Munos, like do I get ready? Do I
- 17:35Speaker 2: loosen up? I mean? He was in his full jacket
- 17:37Speaker 2: going into the ninth inning, right, And they showed they
- 17:40Speaker 2: made a point on TV to show the photo of
- 17:42Speaker 2: him and the jacket. Usually he's either in the game
- 17:44Speaker 2: or loosening up right now, and he's got his jacket
- 17:47Speaker 2: on this kind of pacing back and forth, like what
- 17:49Speaker 2: do I do? Right? And then he comes in and
- 17:51Speaker 2: he's like, inherit's traffic and he didn't do anything wrong.
- 17:55Speaker 2: They got two gross hits off of him through a
- 17:57Speaker 2: drawn in in field. It's gonna happen, I mean, and so,
- 18:01Speaker 2: and then you saw the frustration on one of the
- 18:03Speaker 2: nicest human being you'll ever meet. His face when he
- 18:06Speaker 2: came up. He was shaking his head like what are
- 18:08Speaker 2: we doing? I mean, that was the look he had
- 18:10Speaker 2: on his face, did he not? Yeah, When when he
- 18:12Speaker 2: came off the field, it was like, what is going on?
- 18:15Speaker 2: This job is hard enough? Why are we overthinking? We
- 18:19Speaker 2: are triple thinking a double think right now. That's that's
- 18:23Speaker 2: the way that he looked coming off, And I think
- 18:25Speaker 2: that a lot of people felt that. I mean, Bryce
- 18:27Speaker 2: Miller said after the game, Travis, that's we should be
- 18:31Speaker 2: five ten games over five hundred and running away with
- 18:33Speaker 2: this division and and and we're just not doing it
- 18:36Speaker 2: because we're not winning these one run games.
- 18:38Speaker 3: I'll play Devil's advocate here.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Uh hello, Oh jeez, Dan.
- 18:41Speaker 4: Dan Wilson's only he's had less than two full seasons
- 18:46Speaker 4: as Mariners manager. I want Yes, he's had some some
- 18:51Speaker 4: mess ups. He's taken the Mariners to the ALCS.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Yeah, he.
- 19:00Speaker 4: I guess. I just I want to see him improve
- 19:05Speaker 4: game to game. Last night was not good. But if
- 19:09Speaker 4: he shows us that he can do better, then I
- 19:12Speaker 4: will be happy and see.
- 19:14Speaker 3: I want to see him.
- 19:15Speaker 2: You want to see him succeed. We all want to
- 19:17Speaker 2: see him succeed. He's got some merits to him. I mean,
- 19:19Speaker 2: he is somebody that behind the scenes, the players like,
- 19:23Speaker 2: and the job of a manager is really their first
- 19:26Speaker 2: job is not x'es and O's. It's why they're not
- 19:28Speaker 2: called a head coach in baseball. They're called a manager.
- 19:31Speaker 2: They're supposed to manage everything, you manage personalities. You're supposed
- 19:35Speaker 2: to get the most out of your talent. He is
- 19:37Speaker 2: absolutely not getting the most out of his talent. And
- 19:39Speaker 2: what he's struggling with the most, in my opinion, are
- 19:42Speaker 2: the XES and O's decisions, which to me, is the
- 19:45Speaker 2: easiest part of the job. I don't think that this
- 19:48Speaker 2: stuff is rocket science that we're not executing right now
- 19:52Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint. From personnel standpoint, I think we're fine.
- 19:56Speaker 2: On paper. We're the best team in the American League West.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I mean from utili seeing what personnel we have positions. Yeah,
- 20:03Speaker 2: I mean the rant that Bishop went on with I
- 20:06Speaker 2: end the other day sixth inning on. We're losing baseball games.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Those used to be games that we won, and we
- 20:12Speaker 2: are losing those and it's because we're not making the
- 20:15Speaker 2: right decisions with pinch hitters and with bullpen pieces and
- 20:19Speaker 2: the piggyback thing. I think was just too much for
- 20:22Speaker 2: a struggling manager to overcome last night, even though for
- 20:26Speaker 2: eight innings it went, It went according to plan. It's
- 20:31Speaker 2: just that that ninth inning jumped up to get him.
- 20:33Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of talk about I said
- 20:35Speaker 2: this earlier this week. I said this on Monday to
- 20:37Speaker 2: start my show. I mean, this team should win the division.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I still think they are going to win the division,
- 20:43Speaker 2: and I still think they're gonna win it comfortably right
- 20:45Speaker 2: now on May twentieth. Have a bad offense, a bad defense,
- 20:51Speaker 2: and a bad manager. Very good pitching, not great pitching
- 20:55Speaker 2: right now, but very good, very good bullpen by the way.
- 20:58Speaker 2: So everything came improve, yes, and should improve the thing
- 21:04Speaker 2: though that can be changed overnight. There's only one of
- 21:07Speaker 2: those things, and that's a change of manager. I'm not
- 21:12Speaker 2: saying to do it. I take that very seriously. In
- 21:15Speaker 2: my role on this stage, I don't call for coaches
- 21:19Speaker 2: jobs until I didn't call for Pete's, and that turned
- 21:23Speaker 2: out to be a great decision by the Seattle Seahawks.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm there yet with Dan, but if
- 21:32Speaker 2: they did announce a change today, I'd be like good
- 21:38Speaker 2: Alex Cora, Hello, No. I like watching him manage baseball games.
- 21:45Speaker 2: There's a there's a family tie here. He's very good
- 21:48Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, I mean he's good at it. Number
- 21:50Speaker 2: one probably needs a fresh start. Yes, he obviously has
- 21:54Speaker 2: some connection to Seattle. His brother's Joey. He's available right now.
- 21:58Speaker 2: I mean, you have to find somebody available. I do
- 22:00Speaker 2: not want something from promotion from within. If you went there,
- 22:04Speaker 2: They're not going to go there now. They want They're
- 22:06Speaker 2: not ready to make that move. We all want to
- 22:09Speaker 2: see him succeed. Dan Wilson's a legend in this town.
- 22:12Speaker 2: He's a super likable guy. He's Dan the Man, and
- 22:14Speaker 2: Dan the Man is a legend in this town. Dan
- 22:17Speaker 2: the Manager has a lot of proving to do, and
- 22:22Speaker 2: right now he's to me, he's just a cold manager
- 22:26Speaker 2: right now. I mean there are hot players and cold players,
- 22:28Speaker 2: and we show their statistics all the time. It's harder
- 22:31Speaker 2: to do with managers. But I think we've got a
- 22:33Speaker 2: nice cold manager on our hands right now. Doesn't mean
- 22:36Speaker 2: he can't come out of it, Travis. Doesn't mean that
- 22:39Speaker 2: he can't, you know, get back into a rhythm with things.
- 22:42Speaker 2: But we are out of rhythm right now. He's out
- 22:44Speaker 2: of rhythm right now, and certainly introducing something as foreign
- 22:49Speaker 2: as a piggyback situation seemed to be one element of
- 22:53Speaker 2: strategy too many last night, and we got away from
- 22:56Speaker 2: things that we would do normally to salt a baseball game.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I don't hate the idea. If we piggyback again, I'm
- 23:05Speaker 2: not going to be a host that says this is dumb.
- 23:07Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting idea. I think it almost
- 23:10Speaker 2: worked to perfection last night. But I would like to
- 23:13Speaker 2: believe after doing it for the first time, some mighty
- 23:17Speaker 2: lessons were learned last night, and those were, Hey, it's
- 23:21Speaker 2: one thing to have a plan. It's another thing to
- 23:23Speaker 2: be in a one run game, in a Major League
- 23:26Speaker 2: baseball game. And in a one run game, we're not
- 23:29Speaker 2: gonna live by any script we came up with six
- 23:32Speaker 2: hours ago in a stuffy conference room. What we're going
- 23:36Speaker 2: to do is we're going to manage to keep that
- 23:38Speaker 2: one run lead, and for me, that's keeping a starting
- 23:41Speaker 2: pitcher in the game that's on fire, and then in
- 23:44Speaker 2: the ninth inning, I'm going to go to the closer
- 23:47Speaker 2: that is most accustomed to that role and not leave
- 23:51Speaker 2: that to Castillo as well. He was dealing with enough
- 23:54Speaker 2: last night that was foreign on his plate. But now
- 23:57Speaker 2: I'm not going to leave a one run lead in
- 23:59Speaker 2: the ninth to him. And I'm also not going to
- 24:01Speaker 2: ask my closer to come in and try to clean
- 24:04Speaker 2: up a mess either. I want him to start the
- 24:06Speaker 2: inning clean as well. And if they do that, I'm
- 24:10Speaker 2: all for seeing the piggyback thing again next time around
- 24:14Speaker 2: through the rotation. All right, coming up next, one other prism,
- 24:17Speaker 2: one last prism. I want to run this thing through,
- 24:20Speaker 2: and that is Bryce Miller Sports Radio ninety three point
- 24:23Speaker 2: three KJRFM. All Right, one more prism to filter through
- 24:32Speaker 2: last night's loss. We'll get to that in a moment.
- 24:36Speaker 2: You want to let you know, if you're a country
- 24:38Speaker 2: music fan and you like celebrating my birthday without me, Yeah,
- 24:44Speaker 2: you want to bring in June fourth, Colin Ray is
- 24:47Speaker 2: going to be at the Tulala Resort Casino, so I
- 24:50Speaker 2: don't get the whole gang to get Hey, it's Chuck's birthday.
- 24:53Speaker 2: We should go celebrate by ourselves without him and go
- 24:57Speaker 2: to the Tulala Resort Casino and we'll have we'll have
- 25:00Speaker 2: a ball. We'll treat it like it's you know, everybody,
- 25:03Speaker 2: I give you permission. Everybody can treat June fourth like
- 25:06Speaker 2: it's their birthday. Yeah, And why wouldn't you want to
- 25:09Speaker 2: take in Colin Ray at the Tulalip Resort Casino. Oh,
- 25:14Speaker 2: all you want is everything to laylop everything Talalip dot Com.
- 25:19Speaker 2: It's gonna be at the Orca Ballroom on the fourth.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Get it done. Yeah, go out there, celebrate my birthday
- 25:24Speaker 2: like I should.
- 25:24Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go without you.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Yeah, go without me. Yeah you don't want me, I'll ruin.
- 25:29Speaker 2: I'll ruin my birthday for you. Yeah you don't want me. There,
- 25:32Speaker 2: go go soak it up. Just enjoy my birthday on
- 25:35Speaker 2: your own time. Yeah, all right, let's run it through
- 25:39Speaker 2: our final filter here at Anders We've got Bryce Miller.
- 25:42Speaker 2: I'd like to run it through the Bryce Miller filter
- 25:44Speaker 2: here because obviously he was not too happy getting taken
- 25:47Speaker 2: out from the game. No, he was pissed off.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Yeah, very pissed, and he tried to plead his case
- 25:52Speaker 1: to Dan Wilson. When you know, two outs in the
- 25:54Speaker 1: sixth inning, there's a guy on second base and Muna
- 25:59Speaker 1: Takamurakami's up. If there is one situation where there's one
- 26:04Speaker 1: you give up one hit and one walk and you're
- 26:08Speaker 1: getting taken out of the game, it's the one that
- 26:10Speaker 1: was last night. I think you could have left him
- 26:13Speaker 1: in and he would have been fine, But it ended
- 26:15Speaker 1: up working out okay because Ferrera came in and did
- 26:17Speaker 1: the job.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Uh.
- 26:18Speaker 1: You also were only up one zero, so one mistake
- 26:22Speaker 1: is means you're giving up the lead at that point.
- 26:25Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know what Bryce thought was going
- 26:28Speaker 2: to happen last night. Was he not made aware of it?
- 26:32Speaker 2: Was he under the oh, I hear you, I hear
- 26:34Speaker 2: you skip, Yep, you're gonna Yeah, that's fine. I'm a
- 26:37Speaker 2: team player. I love rock so uh okay, And then
- 26:40Speaker 2: all of a sudden, here comes Wilson like, what the
- 26:43Speaker 2: amp is going on? You not see the scoreboard? I
- 26:47Speaker 2: love your Bryce Miller I pression. Yeah. So I don't
- 26:52Speaker 2: know why he was so caught off guard about it,
- 26:55Speaker 2: or it was just a I think I would be
- 26:58Speaker 2: the same way. Really, I know we can't up with
- 27:00Speaker 2: a plan, but if you've seen what I have done
- 27:02Speaker 2: to this team, yeah, I mean I give up one hit,
- 27:05Speaker 2: that's all the leash I had so that we can
- 27:07Speaker 2: do this piggyback thing. So I would have fought to
- 27:10Speaker 2: stay in the game. I'm glad he did fight to
- 27:12Speaker 2: stay in the game and I wish he would have
- 27:14Speaker 2: stayed in the game, because to me, that's one of
- 27:16Speaker 2: those decisions that if you're going to go with some
- 27:20Speaker 2: once in a lifetime strategy that no one's ever done before.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I do believe you have to adjust on the fly,
- 27:25Speaker 2: and I am definitely adjusting to my starting pitcher can't
- 27:29Speaker 2: get touched right now by this lineup. Why would I
- 27:32Speaker 2: take him out after seventy two p questions for you?
- 27:34Speaker 1: Yeah, if he had stayed in the game, gotten Murkami out,
- 27:36Speaker 1: struck him out, would you have to put him back
- 27:38Speaker 1: out there for the seventh?
- 27:39Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. I realize what the plan was.
- 27:43Speaker 2: If I've got somebody that is just lighting it up
- 27:47Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, yeah, I mean actually makes a little
- 27:50Speaker 2: more sense for rare versus Morikami. Can I go back
- 27:54Speaker 2: to Wills Miller after that? Yeah? Right. You know, Whitey
- 28:00Speaker 2: Herzog used to take his two. He had a lefty
- 28:03Speaker 2: reliever and a righty reliever. And this was back when
- 28:06Speaker 2: in the National League when pitchers had to hit, and
- 28:08Speaker 2: he would put one of them in the left field,
- 28:10Speaker 2: so the left he would come in and face the lefty,
- 28:13Speaker 2: and then he'd take that guy and put him in
- 28:15Speaker 2: the left field and bring in the righty, and then
- 28:18Speaker 2: he'd take the righty out because another left he was
- 28:20Speaker 2: coming up, and he'd bring the left fielder in from
- 28:22Speaker 2: the left. Yeah, he went back and forth, but he
- 28:25Speaker 2: couldn't take them both off the field at the same time.
- 28:27Speaker 2: So maybe we should have done that for Bryce Miller
- 28:31Speaker 2: right field.
- 28:31Speaker 1: That's another variable for Dan Wilson to manage their Chuck
- 28:34Speaker 1: Pow can't take it.
- 28:38Speaker 2: I'm only one man. I want to throw in one
- 28:44Speaker 2: other wrinkle here because I think this needs to be
- 28:47Speaker 2: discussed for our show ins today as well through the
- 28:49Speaker 2: Bryce Miller prism. I told this to Luke Arkins when
- 28:53Speaker 2: we were texting during the game last night. I think
- 28:56Speaker 2: Bryce Miller is one of our two or three best starters,
- 29:00Speaker 2: and so I don't think we've chosen the right guy
- 29:02Speaker 2: if we're going to do this piggyback thing again, I
- 29:04Speaker 2: don't think he's the guy that we do it with.
- 29:06Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that I think I
- 29:08Speaker 2: think he's in the con I thought at the beginning
- 29:12Speaker 2: of the year he was in store for a great
- 29:15Speaker 2: year this year, and then he got hurt and that
- 29:18Speaker 2: was crushingly disappointing certainly to him but twaal Mariner fans.
- 29:22Speaker 2: But I know he was the worst of our starters
- 29:25Speaker 2: last regular season, fighting through injuries. He was our best
- 29:28Speaker 2: starter in the playoffs last year, and he came in
- 29:32Speaker 2: like ten pounds more muscled, ready to go. That d
- 29:37Speaker 2: loo is up to ninety eight ninety nine, which shouldn't
- 29:40Speaker 2: be catching people off guard. If we have time to
- 29:42Speaker 2: discuss that, I will. But he obviously came into camp
- 29:46Speaker 2: in the best shape of his career, strongest he's ever been,
- 29:49Speaker 2: throwing as hard as he's ever thrown, if not harder,
- 29:52Speaker 2: and consistently hard. And so I think he's going to
- 29:57Speaker 2: be one of our two or three best pitchers. And
- 30:00Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do this piggyback thing for much longer.
- 30:02Speaker 2: But we're gonna do it for If we are going
- 30:04Speaker 2: to do it for much longer, I don't think this
- 30:06Speaker 2: is the dog we mess with.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the main reasons you're doing
- 30:10Speaker 1: it with him is not because you have the least
- 30:12Speaker 1: amount of faith in him. It's because he's just coming
- 30:14Speaker 1: off his injury. And this is only his second start
- 30:17Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six.
- 30:18Speaker 2: But he threw more pitches last game, and he threw
- 30:20Speaker 2: last night. He did.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think it gets to a point where
- 30:25Speaker 1: if he continues to prove that he's as dominant as
- 30:28Speaker 1: he's looked in his first two starts, and you still
- 30:30Speaker 1: want to do this piggyback thing if Castillo actually it
- 30:33Speaker 1: ends up working out a couple times maybe and Castilla
- 30:35Speaker 1: looks much better in that role, and then you end
- 30:38Speaker 1: up saving a couple of bullpen arms maybe because of that.
- 30:41Speaker 2: I would, And.
- 30:42Speaker 1: I know it's weird if you're going to choose someone
- 30:44Speaker 1: to piggyback off of, I would choose Logan Gilbert personally,
- 30:47Speaker 1: And I know that sounds weird to have it be
- 30:50Speaker 1: your opening day starter, that the guy you're kind of handcuffing,
- 30:53Speaker 1: so to speak. But in terms of you look at
- 30:56Speaker 1: their profiles as a pitcher, Logan Gilbert has had a
- 31:01Speaker 1: lot of success in the first three or four innings
- 31:03Speaker 1: of a game, and then as soon as the fifth
- 31:05Speaker 1: or sixth in incomes, that's when the wheels start to
- 31:08Speaker 1: fall off with him a little bit. And he's had
- 31:09Speaker 1: some efficiency issues as well. His stuff is still fine,
- 31:13Speaker 1: but it's it's those last couple innings right before you
- 31:18Speaker 1: go to your relieving options that he ends up kind
- 31:20Speaker 1: of faltering a little bit. It makes a ton of
- 31:23Speaker 1: sense if that's the way you want to go. Plus,
- 31:25Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons you're doing it with
- 31:27Speaker 1: Bryce and not Emerson, besides the injury aspect of this,
- 31:30Speaker 1: is because one of the reasons I think it worked
- 31:32Speaker 1: with Castillo last night to the most extent.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Guys, we know it. They lost the game, okay, but.
- 31:38Speaker 1: One of the reasons it was effective, at least in
- 31:40Speaker 1: the first couple innings, is because they're two totally different
- 31:43Speaker 1: types of pitchers. Right, Castillo is more of a side armor.
- 31:46Speaker 1: He has a sinker slider change up sort of thing,
- 31:50Speaker 1: and Bryce even different right exactly, Bryce Miller's over the top,
- 31:54Speaker 1: Gilbert's just a full extension, like tall, lanky guy that's
- 31:59Speaker 1: gonna come at you, and Castillo is the side armor.
- 32:02Speaker 1: So the reason why relievers can be effective sometimes is
- 32:07Speaker 1: because they pose a different look than a lot than
- 32:10Speaker 1: the starting pitcher does. So that's why I would maybe
- 32:13Speaker 1: think about going to Logan the next time around.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you have to keep in mind, you know,
- 32:18Speaker 2: Logan's seniority, true, but you're right, I mean, he has
- 32:22Speaker 2: for whatever reason, after the fifth inning, he hasn't been
- 32:24Speaker 2: as effective. And I think number one, because all of
- 32:28Speaker 2: this is new, we just kind of have to wrap
- 32:29Speaker 2: our arms around the fact that no one should be
- 32:32Speaker 2: insulted by this. We have five spots, we have six pitchers.
- 32:37Speaker 2: So if Pete Woodworth is accurate when he tells me
- 32:40Speaker 2: nobody cares when they pitch, they just want the ball.
- 32:43Speaker 2: They want to get people out because they want to
- 32:44Speaker 2: do it for their teammates. Right. Well, if that's the case,
- 32:47Speaker 2: then we shouldn't have to dance around anybody's sensitivities. Is
- 32:51Speaker 2: it out of the question, And granted we saw it
- 32:54Speaker 2: for the first time last night, is it out of
- 32:56Speaker 2: the question to block out two days for the piggyback?
- 33:00Speaker 2: Like I've said a number of times, what if Emerson
- 33:02Speaker 2: is only isn't efficient today, or if he struggles, gives
- 33:06Speaker 2: up three runs and four innings, might have been nice
- 33:09Speaker 2: to have Castillo ready to go. Is it out of
- 33:12Speaker 2: the question? Is another thing Pete told me that no, no, no,
- 33:16Speaker 2: if we go to a five man or six man
- 33:18Speaker 2: our rotations, they're not so stuck in their preparation that
- 33:21Speaker 2: they couldn't adjust to that. Well, Why couldn't Luis Castillo
- 33:25Speaker 2: give him a two day block? And that allows you
- 33:28Speaker 2: to say Bryce is on fire? Oois tomorrow? Chill out tomorrow?
- 33:34Speaker 2: Same thing? Be ready? Yeah, what's wrong with that? And
- 33:38Speaker 2: then we could have just gone Bryce for seven for
- 33:41Speaker 2: Rare for one and Munos for one. I don't think
- 33:44Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with that. I mean, we are experimenting, right,
- 33:47Speaker 2: Sure can the variable not be if we're going to
- 33:49Speaker 2: do this one more time that we're going to set
- 33:52Speaker 2: two even three days aside that Castillo could fill the
- 33:56Speaker 2: next time through he only threw two innings. It's not
- 33:59Speaker 2: like he couldn't throwing three days from now?
- 34:02Speaker 3: All right?
- 34:03Speaker 2: Is that? Is that out of the question?
- 34:05Speaker 3: Oh?
- 34:06Speaker 2: Just see, all right? Coming down next? One last thing
- 34:08Speaker 2: to close us out On a Wednesday, Sports Radio ninety
- 34:10Speaker 2: three point three kJ r F.
- 34:12Speaker 5: M, all right, Matt Brash has been activated.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Breaking news there, so he'll be available to the team
- 34:32Speaker 2: this afternoon. And that was a foe gone conclusion. I
- 34:35Speaker 2: would think Robinson Ortiz, hey, glad you enjoyed a good
- 34:40Speaker 2: seat at the game the last couple of nights because
- 34:43Speaker 2: he didn't even get to pitch. Yeah, and now he's
- 34:45Speaker 2: going back to Tacoma. At least the drive's not long. Yeah, true, yeah,
- 34:48Speaker 2: taking some sights should be available for the Rainiers too. Yeah.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Head to clover Leaf, throw yourself some pie today before
- 34:55Speaker 2: you had to any play Chambers Bay. All right, we'll
- 34:59Speaker 2: close out the show. Oh here Anders, Travis and myself
- 35:02Speaker 2: with one last thing, Andrews show them Hout's done.
- 35:05Speaker 1: So usually for one last thing, we do something that
- 35:08Speaker 1: we haven't touched on today.
- 35:09Speaker 2: But I'm gonna break the rule you want, there's no
- 35:12Speaker 2: rules the one last thing.
- 35:13Speaker 1: And do something we have touched on because I feel
- 35:15Speaker 1: compelled according to the text line that we haven't still
- 35:18Speaker 1: talked about the offense, even though we've talked about the offense.
- 35:21Speaker 2: A multitude of times. But I'm just letting you guys
- 35:24Speaker 2: know we started the show with it and put it
- 35:26Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock segment, which is our biggest segment. Yes,
- 35:30Speaker 2: that's all right, It's okay. We know that Fax getting
- 35:32Speaker 2: away or anything. We know not everyone listens for all
- 35:36Speaker 2: four hours. So I'm just I'm going to once again
- 35:40Speaker 2: let you guys know. Of course, we know there was
- 35:43Speaker 2: only one hit in one run last night, and it
- 35:44Speaker 2: was in the first inning and that supersedes anything else.
- 35:49Speaker 2: For the reason you lost that specific game last night.
- 35:53Speaker 2: That is the reason.
- 35:54Speaker 1: And there is a conversation to be had about the
- 35:57Speaker 1: Mariners lack of success against left handed pitching.
- 36:01Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. That's my one last thing. Okay, Yes,
- 36:05Speaker 2: they got to be able to figure out out of it. Yes, yes.
- 36:08Speaker 2: The only thing I would say is they do this
- 36:10Speaker 2: every year, every year. This is nothing different. This has
- 36:13Speaker 2: been every year every April and May since I've been here,
- 36:17Speaker 2: except for the one year they started in Tokyo and
- 36:22Speaker 2: they scored like sixteen runs in the first game, and
- 36:25Speaker 2: Ryan Healey had like four homers and uh oh what
- 36:29Speaker 2: was the bright fielder? Oh, I'm blanket on his name,
- 36:33Speaker 2: damn it, damn it up all right anyway, Domingo Santana,
- 36:41Speaker 2: Mingo Santana. Yeah, anyway, so that they started hot that year,
- 36:45Speaker 2: but that wasn't what the Marine layer. I don't know
- 36:49Speaker 2: why they do it. It's a great mystery. And yet
- 36:53Speaker 2: they always heat up in June and July. And I'm
- 36:55Speaker 2: I'm I suspect it's gonna happen again this year. And
- 36:59Speaker 2: we're on look back at this day and the.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Last forget about all.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Oh man, remember that time we talked about the piggyback
- 37:06Speaker 2: situation for an entire show. Hilarious. Yeah, yeah, World Champ.
- 37:14Speaker 2: I hope that's what the thing we're doing. I really
- 37:16Speaker 2: do what your one last thing?
- 37:18Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go off on a completely different tangent
- 37:21Speaker 4: non sports. The Pacific Science Center just sold their IMAX
- 37:26Speaker 4: theater to the Space Needle and apparently they're gonna stop
- 37:31Speaker 4: showing feature films at the big Imax theory they have there.
- 37:35Speaker 3: And I'm really.
- 37:36Speaker 4: Teed off about this because I've seen so many great films. Yeah,
- 37:40Speaker 4: in that one point four to three aspect ratio. They
- 37:44Speaker 4: have like amazing lasers that that play the movies and
- 37:48Speaker 4: the sound is great, fantastic.
- 37:50Speaker 3: I saw Avatar there.
- 37:52Speaker 4: I saw all the Chris Christopher Nolan movies, Interstellar, Dark Knight, Inception, Dunkirk, Oppenheimer, Uh,
- 38:00Speaker 4: the new Blade Running Blade Runner they came out.
- 38:02Speaker 3: A few years ago. Gravity.
- 38:03Speaker 4: They were all incredible experiences, and they're gonna take that
- 38:06Speaker 4: away because I guess it's not a big money maker,
- 38:09Speaker 4: or they're gonna like tear it down and turn into
- 38:12Speaker 4: Space Needle overflow, you know, like Lyne overflow or something.
- 38:17Speaker 3: But really, I'm really pissed off about this.
- 38:19Speaker 2: I mean, if you saw all those movies there, that's
- 38:22Speaker 2: that is a place that means something to you.
- 38:24Speaker 3: It's it's a great experience.
- 38:26Speaker 4: It's it's six stories tall in Seattle, I think, oh yeah,
- 38:30Speaker 4: and there's no other imax like it for like seven
- 38:34Speaker 4: hundred miles.
- 38:35Speaker 3: It's it's I'm really sad.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you spent some time on that
- 38:41Speaker 2: because that you know, if you've spent that much time
- 38:43Speaker 2: there and you've got that much use out of it,
- 38:45Speaker 2: then yes, that being taken away from you hurts. And
- 38:49Speaker 2: now I'm sad that I never went there. Yeah you
- 38:52Speaker 2: never saw never Science Center? Wow? Missing out? Yeah I did.
- 38:57Speaker 2: I missed out. I literally missed out. Yeah, all right,
- 39:01Speaker 2: should even go here. I just close out with this.
- 39:05Speaker 2: I just see here an awful lot of this, and
- 39:07Speaker 2: I just saw it, so it's fresh in my mind.
- 39:10Speaker 2: But a lot of you that think that if you
- 39:13Speaker 2: were in our seats, you would ask the toughest questions
- 39:16Speaker 2: possible of them of Dan Wilson if you had a
- 39:20Speaker 2: press pass. I'm gonna tell you one if two things
- 39:22Speaker 2: are gonna happen. Either your nuts are going to shrivel
- 39:25Speaker 2: up when you get there because you don't want to
- 39:28Speaker 2: actually be nearly as tough with your questions as you
- 39:31Speaker 2: think you're going to be in your mind. Or number two,
- 39:34Speaker 2: you are going to live up to your word, ask
- 39:36Speaker 2: tough questions, and your time as a media member will
- 39:39Speaker 2: last one press conference. That's true, Okay, it's an art period.
- 39:47Speaker 2: You have very good people covering the Mariners for you,
- 39:50Speaker 2: very good people covering the Mariners for you. You should
- 39:53Speaker 2: love them, trust them, and respect the work that they
- 39:56Speaker 2: do and the information that they get because they get
- 39:59Speaker 2: a lot of inf for you, rather than constantly criticizing
- 40:03Speaker 2: them for not asking the tough questions you would ask
- 40:06Speaker 2: because you wouldn't do it. All right, we'll talk to
- 40:10Speaker 2: you tomorrow at six am. Coming up next, Ashley Ryan
- 40:13Speaker 2: and Christopher Kids Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
- 40:17Speaker 2: RFM