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- 1:01Thanks for joining me today on the very last episode of season
- 1:047. Our show features Libby and
- 1:07Victor are Gein. The founders and Co Roasters of
- 1:10Romantics coffee, they're a family roasting company.
- 1:13That works in small batches that they make for dreamers and
- 1:17Believers in San Diego. California.
- 1:20I emphasize the family part of that statement.
- 1:23In fact, you might hear their kids and the family dog in the
- 1:26background of this podcast. While you're listening today, go
- 1:29to romantic off e.com or follow at Romantics coffee on
- 1:34Instagram. So you can better Envision.
- 1:36The old Hollywood Vibe of the brand and maybe tempt yourself
- 1:40with one of their medium roasts. I know you're out there
- 1:43listening and you can probably multitask.
- 1:46So what you're doing that? I'm going to start the show.
- 1:49Thanks for joining me. Once again for another
- 1:52interview, with some coffee people, Libyan, Victor are gain
- 1:56of Romantics coffee. I've got one more warning which
- 2:10is we have a new puppy and I'm distracting him with a bunch of
- 2:14peanut butter right now but he may join us at some point.
- 2:18No worries. You're probably here are dogs to
- 2:20orchids. No problem.
- 2:24Well, to the both of you, welcome to Coffee people from
- 2:28roast West Coast. That's first time.
- 2:29I said that I'm wondering if you could do me a favor and just
- 2:32introduce yourself and the The name of your company and maybe
- 2:35let us know how you guys met. I'm Libby.
- 2:38I'm Victor, we are married and started.
- 2:43Romantics coffee and met about 16 years ago at work.
- 2:50So you guys have been been in it for a while.
- 2:52How long has coffee been something that you guys bonded
- 2:56over a did together. It started with a typical big
- 3:01box. Coffee dates and he wasn't
- 3:05really a big coffee drinker. I brought more coffee into his
- 3:10life and then you know started with the sugary drinks and moved
- 3:14into real coffee profiles. There's a place for both.
- 3:19I'm drinking a fairly terrible decaf coffee.
- 3:22Right now that I found in the liquor cabinet because I thought
- 3:26I would, I wanted to have a cup of coffee with you guys.
- 3:28Nice. Well, let's just start with some
- 3:31history about the two. You I'm assuming you both have
- 3:35kind of a different story that kind of meshes together at some
- 3:37point. But I'm wondering if you copy
- 3:41was besides these big box dates was part of your life before.
- 3:44Kind of if you remember your first experience with coffee
- 3:47that made, you think this is pretty interesting and maybe
- 3:51going beyond that big box coffee and into something different.
- 3:55I'll go first because my story is probably a lot quicker than
- 3:58hers as far as coffee goes for me.
- 4:02Growing up, you know, all the men in my family just drunk,
- 4:06just drink black coffee. You know what?
- 4:08I basically look like motor oil and it was always in the
- 4:12mornings and it was always a couple cups and they seem to,
- 4:16you know, move around and be pretty responsive.
- 4:19So I was like, man, that stuff must be pretty strong.
- 4:21So you know, I never asked, I just assumed I really wasn't in
- 4:25the coffee until I met her you know, she's right.
- 4:29Like I didn't know what Gourmet Coffee was.
- 4:33To me, a good cup of coffee was just going down to 7-Eleven get
- 4:37in a large coffee and put a couple creamers in it and I've
- 4:39called it good. She actually introduced me to
- 4:42like a mocha, like a real mocha and we'd go get coffee together,
- 4:48but I would never get coffee. I would get a mocha.
- 4:50She kind of ease me into into the coffee world.
- 4:54That's the long and short of it now.
- 4:56Now, I drink two cups a day. If I'm not drinking water, I'm
- 5:00usually drinking coffee. A little have a little juice
- 5:04during the day before I go to the gym, only for the carbs.
- 5:08You know, before you answer Libby, Victor, I'll ask you, are
- 5:12there any moments? Where?
- 5:13Because I have this little self-fulfilling here where you
- 5:16think, man, I could go back in time and just really like that
- 5:187-Eleven coffee and my life would be easier.
- 5:22So between you me and the wall, every once in a while, I still
- 5:26go get some 11 cop out. There you go perfect.
- 5:29I think twice about it. Yeah, still good.
- 5:32About you Libby. So, coffee was always a constant
- 5:36in my life growing up. We lived all over the world.
- 5:41My parents just always had the coffee pot on the stove.
- 5:44Never moved. It was like 24/7.
- 5:48You want to sit down and have a conversation, we're going to
- 5:50have coffee and they always invited me to join them and it
- 5:55was a lot of milk and sugar of course, in the beginning.
- 5:58But even with family at my grandparents house, it was
- 6:03Coffee with the adults, everybody joined in.
- 6:06They let the kids join. We had coffee in our bottles a
- 6:11few times for my grandma. So it's it's been, it's almost
- 6:16like comfort food, but it's a comfort drink for me.
- 6:19It just, I don't know. It feels like coming home
- 6:23coffee, feels like home. Well, that's the youngest I've
- 6:27heard in the bottle but I I think there's a chance that my
- 6:32dad might have slipped Some Brandy in mind a few times when
- 6:35I was being a little squirrelly just to make sure.
- 6:38So I can't judge too much at what point in your process and
- 6:42in your relationship. Did you think man?
- 6:44You know this this coffee thing is just something that we want
- 6:47to pursue you. And further we're going to go
- 6:49beyond it, just going to get coffee and drinking it.
- 6:53We're going to start roasting coffee, we're going to start
- 6:56exploring this as a hobby or even more.
- 6:58When did that happen? And kind of what was the Tipping
- 7:01Point. I want to say was like 11 or 12
- 7:05years ago, I started noticing these local Roasters popping up
- 7:10everywhere and I think the first time I realized it was closer,
- 7:17it was possible with sing. The Roaster and Cafe Moto, just
- 7:21walking in my eyes were huge. And I couldn't go there without
- 7:26walking by The Roaster, just a peek and see what was going on.
- 7:30And then I think Oh, I started an Instagram of just local
- 7:36Roasters and popping into places and that definitely opened our
- 7:41eyes more from there. We both just started talking
- 7:44about what we would do, like, how we could do our own spin on.
- 7:48It started talking names and it was fun at first and then it got
- 7:53a little bit more serious. The kids started throwing out
- 7:57names for a coffee company, that kind of just You are sparked our
- 8:03interest once covid. Hit I was looking through
- 8:07Instagram probably and I found the coffee Collective the
- 8:11Roasterie and that was like, all right.
- 8:14It's it is possible. We went and did a tour and got
- 8:19some training and it's been go go go since then and you know,
- 8:24covid gave us that time gave us that time to actually pursue
- 8:29something on the side rather than I'm driving to three hours
- 8:33in traffic every day that gave us a little free time before.
- 8:37And after work, what were you doing for work?
- 8:41Or what industry were you in before that?
- 8:43I'm assuming you are also still working at some point.
- 8:46I think we emailed a little bit and Romantics coffee isn't your
- 8:50full-time job yet. Correct.
- 8:53But what what were you doing? And how did that relate if at
- 8:56all into what you're doing now with coffee?
- 8:59Absolutely no relation. We work in the corporate world
- 9:04and still still grinding. Yeah, it's it's kind of like
- 9:10polar opposite. Just another another experience.
- 9:13Well then let's go back to the coffee side of it.
- 9:16You discover coffee Collective and you take a class, you learn
- 9:20a little bit about it. How long are you roasting before
- 9:23you start thinking? Okay, not only is it possible
- 9:26for us to learn how to roast but someone else might actually like
- 9:28to drink this. And I ask that because I tried
- 9:31to brew beer. Once and it did not go well.
- 9:34So what was your experience wasn't like that?
- 9:36First roast was oh this is drinkable.
- 9:39We can move forward or you don't.
- 9:41How long were you working on this before you felt confident
- 9:44in saying here's something world.
- 9:46What do you think? We went through quite a bit.
- 9:50Yeah, it was a lot of trial and error.
- 9:53I could see how some now. I could see how some people can
- 9:55pick it up right away. That wasn't the case for us.
- 9:58And also we didn't have ego Going into it.
- 10:02You know, I think we went to enough places she would talk to
- 10:06enough people and she was bouncing ideas off of people.
- 10:10You know, we kind of did our kind of did our due diligence
- 10:13before we went in and on my end, you know, it's definitely
- 10:16nerve-racking. You know, when I go into doing
- 10:18something that I like to go in to get a little tedious, you
- 10:22know, that's just me. I want to make sure if I do
- 10:24something. I'm going to do it, right?
- 10:25I'm going to do it well and I'll ask questions.
- 10:28So when we went, you know, it was like Getting something
- 10:32thrown new to you. It's if somebody trying to help
- 10:36you and we'd ask questions but you know you'd forget right away
- 10:39as soon as you would ask the question.
- 10:40So then you're like I'll screw it.
- 10:42I'm just going to wing it because you got to just gotta
- 10:46dive in, right? So um I'd probably say we went
- 10:50we went roast him. Now at least a good half a dozen
- 10:53times before it even tasted like coffee, right?
- 10:57Which is ground water, right? Like like easily you'd go.
- 11:01It's been an hour. Roasting you'd come home with
- 11:04your sample bags and and it's just Brown watering.
- 11:06I like there's nothing there and I want to say probably like the
- 11:10sixth time you know you go to cup it and you're like whoa that
- 11:14that something you know and then then we were able to share what
- 11:18that it sounds it actually kind of looks as I'm watching you.
- 11:22Like you can kind of remember that emotion of here's something
- 11:25I made and it actually kind of worked.
- 11:28Yeah. Yeah yeah.
- 11:30Yeah. I remember like it was
- 11:31yesterday. Renee, right?
- 11:32And then no. Now, when we go roast.
- 11:35Yeah. It's we're fairly confident, you
- 11:37know? We were still learning.
- 11:39Yeah, we're still very well means.
- 11:41It's a science. I think that's the the biggest
- 11:45lesson I've learned so far, is that it's actually a science.
- 11:48You don't just go in and I'm yes, there's machines that will
- 11:53roast for you and they have pre-programmed, but for the most
- 11:57part, you're you're running the show, your it's And he and
- 12:02there's different variables with the beans and it's been fun to
- 12:06learn. But yeah it's not easy and that
- 12:11might be the fun part 2. Yeah.
- 12:13There's a reason I don't do it and that's because I did not do
- 12:16well in science. Growing up.
- 12:18My brain is this is an English major brain.
- 12:20You know, that's what this is. I believe you are in the second
- 12:25year of this, of this adventure. Hmm.
- 12:28How do you compare your coffee from then to now, how is your
- 12:32Has changed in that time period, at some point.
- 12:34You decided you felt comfortable enough, not just to share but to
- 12:37actually sell your coffee, what made you think that was
- 12:40reasonable? Or was it more of a
- 12:42justification of the money? You were spending at Coffee
- 12:44Collective? Well I think when we go roast,
- 12:47we, we went into it, we really didn't tell anybody that it was
- 12:52going to be a company where we were going to like, actually go
- 12:54out and sell coffee. It was something that we told
- 12:57people it was a hobby and we were like, Hey, try this out.
- 13:00What do you think? M people would try and be like,
- 13:03oh, this was good. Maybe like, oh yeah, we did
- 13:05that. You know, we're like, hey, we
- 13:07roasted this. Can you try and it's free but we
- 13:10just want your honest truth, you know?
- 13:11And, and we asked a lot of we asked a lot of people who we
- 13:15trust like for me. I wanted somebody to tell me how
- 13:18bad it tasted, right. Like, I want to just them to be
- 13:22brutally honest. You know, we got we got the
- 13:25response we want and you know, people will not be strong or I
- 13:28don't taste anything or it's, you know, It's not I like it as
- 13:33an espresso. I don't like it as a drip you
- 13:35know like we're getting all these different answers and then
- 13:39we kind of nailed down our first, you know, our signature
- 13:44roast The Riches of the poor. We kind of kind of nailed it
- 13:47down and we had a serious heart to heart and we were like, hey
- 13:50Will enough people have tried it?
- 13:53We're getting pretty consistent at it.
- 13:55Let's let's try to see if we could sell some we went in and
- 13:59we roasted like 20 pounds. That first roast as soon as we
- 14:04put it on the website, it's sold out like in like an hour, but
- 14:07you know, that was like her mom. My mom was like, we're cousins.
- 14:11It was friends. You know, they're like, oh well,
- 14:13you know that that first round was just friends and family
- 14:16trying to support, right? But what they didn't realize is
- 14:21that that helped like recoup some of the expenses, right?
- 14:26So then we got to go out and roast again that second time
- 14:30around. You know, the friends and family
- 14:31that bought Not the first time that wanted to support.
- 14:34Well, they were like, well, we did it for you the first time.
- 14:36So now we're like kind of on our own and it was kind of just word
- 14:39of mouth after that and we did well and it actually sold out,
- 14:43you know. And, you know, we roasted more
- 14:45than 20 pounds of can't remember how many we did but it's sold
- 14:49out like, in less than a week. Yeah, then we kind of looked at
- 14:52each other like whoa this is pretty rad, you know?
- 14:55Like that was like the first year that was like, first year
- 14:59friends and family. Slow grind.
- 15:03You know as we could. Yeah.
- 15:06And then second year it's been a slow progression but you know I
- 15:13have a hard time comparing because you see all the other
- 15:17local Roasters and everybody's doing their own thing.
- 15:19So I have to stop and say don't compare, I think it's slowly
- 15:23progressed really great for where we're at.
- 15:28We have some, some future goals but your one.
- 15:31Yeah, you're one was a lot of trial and error learning and
- 15:37family and friends carrying us through it your to weave.
- 15:41It's still exciting when we get an order from somebody, neither
- 15:45of us know. And I even I'll ask him like to,
- 15:47you know, so-and-so because it's really awesome, you know, and
- 15:52then and then they come back and it's just, that's the payoff
- 15:56right there. Its people.
- 15:57Like it and they're coming back and we don't know them.
- 16:00So I think that feeling sticks with you, I don't know that it
- 16:04goes away. If you're still excited about
- 16:05what you're doing, I still feel that way.
- 16:08And at this point, my friends and family are sick of me after
- 16:11years of different projects. So I know it's not from them,
- 16:14but when I see something new in someone, something come in and I
- 16:18don't know how they connected to me in any way whatsoever.
- 16:21I'll often like reach out and be like, hey, I just want to know,
- 16:24like, I'm super excited to see your name on this list, but who
- 16:27are you? And where did, You come from and
- 16:29it's always exciting to hear that that somewhere else in the
- 16:32world. Somebody shared my stuff with
- 16:34them and I think that's exciting.
- 16:36Let's talk about that. You have a website, your name,
- 16:40Romantics coffee. I hope I'm saying that right or
- 16:42not giving it a little bit. Where did the name come from?
- 16:45And The Branding come from. And you mentioned the name of
- 16:48that first kind of dialed in coffee Riches of the poor.
- 16:51What was the strategy for that? It sounds like and I just want
- 16:54to loop back a little bit to what you said earlier, but you
- 16:57Might have had a name or some ideas for this before you, your
- 17:00Eve really even into it. So how did that get established?
- 17:05Where did that come from? Yeah, like I said, we would
- 17:08throw out names all the time, just random text each other, a
- 17:12name and one would veto it. Or we be sitting at dinner and
- 17:16throw out names and the kids would say, no, that sounds
- 17:19terrible. We've always been kind of cheesy
- 17:23Romantics in our relationship and I like I like the feeling of
- 17:30it, not the lovey-dovey hearts and cheesiness.
- 17:35I like the feeling where, you know, romance is found in loss
- 17:39and pain, and fear and Adventure, I like the little,
- 17:46your heart skips a beat kind of feeling, and that's what I want
- 17:50people to get from our brand. It's not all, you know, hearts
- 17:55and cheesy and it can be sometimes.
- 17:57But I think we both kind of resonated with that same thing
- 18:01with our names. You know, we want them to be
- 18:04reflective of the brand but not carried over board and hoping
- 18:11that carry that through. I was going to say that I don't
- 18:14see a lot of, I'm kind of scrolling through your social
- 18:17feed right now actually, as we're talking just kind of
- 18:19giving myself a reminder, I don't see a lot of Hearts to
- 18:22begin with, but I feel a very classic old Hollywood vibe to
- 18:27it, you know? Even in the font that you chose.
- 18:30Yeah, with the cursive. So with that you start this
- 18:34company, you're doing it on the side.
- 18:35You've got a family. You're obviously very busy.
- 18:38How does this fit into your life as a couple?
- 18:41I mean, how does working together with your spouse work
- 18:45for you? It seems like you have a pretty
- 18:49good vibe together so I apologize if I'm imposing.
- 18:52No no it's yeah well we met at work but we've I've never worked
- 18:58together. So the company we work for has
- 19:01tons of office space. So we've never carpooled
- 19:05together. We've never worked together.
- 19:07He has many different Hobbies as well.
- 19:10So this is, this has been fun to have something.
- 19:14Together, we go roast, we sit in the car together for a long
- 19:19time. Just the two of us which has
- 19:20never happened that often before without kids until so.
- 19:26It's actually been Learning experience to work together, but
- 19:32it also comes natural. We occation.
- 19:35Yeah. No, it's been, it's been fun.
- 19:38It's been good. I've worked with my spouse.
- 19:41My wife Trina, we actually met at work as well, but it was at
- 19:45Old Navy in 19, or no, 2001, maybe so it's been a minute.
- 19:50We will sense would then work several jobs together.
- 19:53And even now she helps me with things and we do events together
- 19:56and things. So I No, there is a line between
- 20:00our work relationship and how we talk to each other about work
- 20:04and our personal relationship. And you've mentioned a few times
- 20:07that you have kids who have given you feedback and things
- 20:10without getting into the details of them.
- 20:12How do you see this? As a family thing ever did you
- 20:15guys do events or together or pop-ups or anything like that.
- 20:19Yes, we've had a couple pop-ups and we have a, we have a teenage
- 20:22daughter. Our oldest daughter.
- 20:24Ada, she's read. She's just like a Genuinely read
- 20:28kid, and she's really smart. She's probably a lot smarter
- 20:32than I was at that age, right? But, uh, she helps us out a ton
- 20:37and it is all family like a, our first, the first pop-up, we had
- 20:41like the most stressful one. My mother-in-law her mom was in
- 20:45the back, helping us wash dishes to keep everything clean.
- 20:48You know, she was the grunt and she helped us out, you know, so
- 20:53it's big-time family operation and I'm at this point, I'd have
- 20:57it no. No other way.
- 20:58We're still small, you know, hopefully, the projection is to
- 21:01get a lot bigger and, you know, we'd probably have to bring on
- 21:04an employee or two outside of the family, which is fine.
- 21:07But right now, it's still just real family-oriented and, you
- 21:10know, she's the boss and I always make fun of her that she
- 21:12yells at me too much, but, you know, the truth is she's never
- 21:15yelled at me once, you know, we, you know, we're married and we
- 21:19have kids, and we've been together a long time, but I
- 21:22think the most important thing, not to get cheesy, but she's my
- 21:26friend, right? Like, she's She's my best
- 21:28friend, first and foremost. She's my wife.
- 21:30But she's my best friend. She knows how to talk to me.
- 21:32And if she has to walk me off the ledge, she knows how and
- 21:37vice versa. I know her.
- 21:39I know all her little ins and outs.
- 21:40Oh, she's going off into left field somewhere.
- 21:43I, you know, I know, I know how to pull her back and say, well,
- 21:47we're roasting, yeah, we'll have to talk.
- 21:49It's okay. And like, let's be honest.
- 21:52I mean when his every yelling at anybody ever worked for
- 21:56anything, right? So like why Why, why would I
- 21:58yell at her? And why would she yell at me,
- 22:00right? You get get if you talk to
- 22:02somebody, you're going to get a lot further, you know.
- 22:04I'm naturally a quiet person so I don't I'm beside myself for
- 22:08even doing this, but yeah, communication is definitely key.
- 22:13Yeah. But but the training, the
- 22:15younger kids, so we'll get them in there cupping.
- 22:18Oh yeah, we have them, tried everything.
- 22:22I'm coming before bedtime before which is not the greatest
- 22:27parent. But you know they feel involved
- 22:31that is definitely I almost just want to say courageous on your
- 22:36part. I'm just hoping you know it runs
- 22:40through their veins and we have Baristas in our future.
- 22:47Can I ask what you see the future?
- 22:49As I know you said growth but does that mean growth online?
- 22:52Does that mean? And here we had a minor
- 22:56technical glitch. Hang on a second buttons,
- 22:59buttons typing editing and back to the show.
- 23:05Well, let's I want to get kind of back to the coffee side of
- 23:08things. What is something you've learned
- 23:10about coffee in the last two years, or running a business
- 23:14that maybe you learn the hard way, or you've learned through
- 23:17experience or what has your, what is your feeling bad about?
- 23:20You're putting your foot into this industry that is totally
- 23:23different from what you were doing before.
- 23:25I think the just a roasting aspect has been a big learning
- 23:31curve and like I said before that the science behind It and
- 23:36learning how to adjust with different variables has been.
- 23:41I mean, for me, the biggest lesson that we're still learning
- 23:45with the business permits and getting all the correct licenses
- 23:51its you know, I you read it all over the place that it's hard.
- 23:55Well, it is hard and there's no clear handbook on what you need
- 24:02to do in a checklist. It's different for everybody.
- 24:05D. So I think that's been the
- 24:08biggest hurdle for me. I know that for me, at least
- 24:11there's there's different. When you say licensing out,
- 24:14that's always a challenge. I think.
- 24:16California in particular, is this challenge, it's a
- 24:18challenge. Even from neighborhood to
- 24:20Neighborhood. The rules are different.
- 24:22Totally. Yeah.
- 24:24I was going to say, like, oh, at least some mind.
- 24:26I enjoy the roasting, you know, like a, I really like the
- 24:29challenge and always up to learning.
- 24:33I mean, we've talked Of people that have been doing this really
- 24:38long time. They still learn new stuff all
- 24:41the time. This is one of those things are
- 24:43you there's no end to it, right? I think one of the most
- 24:47difficult things on my end is just a business part of it,
- 24:50right? Like, I feel I feel really
- 24:52confident or in our product that at least it tastes good, but
- 24:56it's going out there and marketing it and trying to get
- 25:00people just to give you a shot when there's so many other
- 25:02people out there, you know, they could go.
- 25:05Down the street and I'm we're we live.
- 25:08No one's doing what we're doing right now.
- 25:09You know, and it's just easier for them to go to Starbucks,
- 25:13right? Like so it's just hard and
- 25:15that's the frustrating part for me, but I think it's just got to
- 25:19be patient and it's a slogan and we're in it for the long run.
- 25:22So I think our time will come when you know enough people hear
- 25:26about it and try it that it's going to be more fluid, you
- 25:29know, the business side of it. That's that's probably the most
- 25:33difficult part, sure. Right.
- 25:35Before we had some technical difficulties, I was asking about
- 25:39the future and where you see that going, is it staying
- 25:41e-commerce, or is there a future in a cafe or pop-ups?
- 25:45But what is that, you know, that pattern that you see laying up
- 25:48before you definitely, you know, this year, we set some goals to
- 25:53be to have some consistent pop-ups.
- 25:56We want people to be able to expect and know when to find us
- 26:01we started off the year rough with everybody getting sick.
- 26:05Sick and then emergency runs. So we're hoping to bounce back
- 26:10now and hit the ground running. Maybe coffee shop or consistent
- 26:15pop-up will happen sooner than later.
- 26:18It's in the works. So stay tuned, but definitely
- 26:23e-commerce for the time. Yeah.
- 26:26Well, what's the best way for people to to support your
- 26:30e-commerce or to try you? And if it were me and I were to
- 26:32go online, what is the first thing?
- 26:35You'd want people to try that, you think represents you that
- 26:37you're selling, definitely our coffee, our cold brew, that we
- 26:42actually for local pickup, will do cold broom cold brew lattes
- 26:45that are bottled. So if you're not if you're new
- 26:49to coffee or you still need some sugar, we have a great latte
- 26:53that we feel is great for beginners that want to get that
- 26:57first taste of you know, small batch roasted coffee but still
- 27:01have that Sugar kick and then if your You already know what you
- 27:06like, we have our roasts online. Yeah, we stand behind it.
- 27:11It's a strong full body roast and we roast what we like.
- 27:17We know that there's a lot of lighter roast that are popular
- 27:20right now. So we're kind of trying to swim
- 27:23against the stream and kind of get that into people's homes.
- 27:29I do have a lot of people ask me about when are darker roasts
- 27:32coming back? And I think that they're there.
- 27:34I think people are Doing them. They're just not as celebrated
- 27:37in the moment. So you got to work a little
- 27:39harder to find. Yeah, what did I not ask you
- 27:42about? What should you what do you want
- 27:44people to know about what you're doing?
- 27:46If anything and what did I miss? I don't think you missed
- 27:49anything. You know we just were putting
- 27:52our passion project out there and we're hoping that people
- 27:55enjoy it as much as we do and see that you know romance isn't
- 28:01just lovey-dovey romance has a feeling.
- 28:03It's that little Flutter that you get when you're excited and
- 28:08we want our coffee to get everybody.
- 28:10Excited to last question, then before we get going today, is
- 28:15when you go out and you're stopping at a coffee shop, what
- 28:18do you, what do you order for yourself?
- 28:19I always do a cortado and Americano of double fist to try
- 28:25both each every location. Yeah, I'm just a cold brew or
- 28:30iced coffee guy. So I can drink it when it's
- 28:33snowing outside or when it's 100 degrees.
- 28:35Is it doesn't matter. So it's usually going to be a
- 28:37nice coffee or cold brew. Still be like my milk is and
- 28:43then really just whatever the house special is as far as a
- 28:46drip column. Well, I would say that you've
- 28:50said this kind of term a few times about how you want the
- 28:54flutter of of emotion of the heartbeat, you know, being
- 28:57romantic, and when I have enough coffee.
- 29:00So, that's how my heart feels as well.
- 29:02So I think you've got some, some good branding.
- 29:05In the works, but the good kind that, right?
- 29:08That's not a relation isn't wrong.
- 29:12As long as I don't go to the doctor, I'll never know.
- 29:15Yeah, it's been really lovely just meeting you and chatting
- 29:19with you. I want to thank you for spending
- 29:20some time being on the show and and for taking the risk to put
- 29:24something that you're doing out in the world.
- 29:25And and that's always a vulnerable place to be no matter
- 29:28what it is. Thanks for having us here, our
- 29:30first podcast. So excuse all the arms and we're
- 29:34really good. Reaching out to us to okay, to
- 29:47recap, it's Libby and Victor, and their kids, and their dogs,
- 29:52and their jobs and roasting coffee and starting a business.
- 29:56It's chaos in the way. We all experienced chaos topped
- 30:00with the demands heaped upon entrepreneurs.
- 30:03I know being an entrepreneur, starting a business, it's a
- 30:07choice and I chose this life and Libyan Victor chose to start
- 30:10Romantics coffee. But that doesn't mean it isn't
- 30:14hard sometimes, and that it doesn't take a little life
- 30:17juggling. All of that effort makes the
- 30:20victories. The sales to strangers, the
- 30:23realization, that something tastes better than brown Water.
- 30:27A little bit sweeter. And I'll add I screwed up.
- 30:30Three cups of coffee today alone.
- 30:32I actually dump the first batch. I brewed, I drank the second and
- 30:35third and they were fine and find was okay.
- 30:38Today, mistakes and coffee are part of the process Libyan.
- 30:43Victor roasted a half a dozen times or more before their
- 30:46roasts. Even tasted like coffee to them
- 30:49but they kept practicing and practicing and driving to the
- 30:53Roasterie and roasting more beans until they felt.
- 30:56They had something they could share with the world.
- 30:58Old. And then they got feedback and
- 31:01ask people, they trusted and got more feedback and kept
- 31:04practicing and finally, they were ready to launch.
- 31:08Romantics coffee. I found it interesting that
- 31:11Libyan, Victor had very different.
- 31:13First coffee experiences, Libby's family, used it as a way
- 31:16to connect or facilitate communication.
- 31:19I love that aspect of coffee. For her coffee, Feels Like Home
- 31:23Victor's, family approached. It more for the boost for the
- 31:26daily routine. Think back beyond the first
- 31:29cups. You drank.
- 31:30What are your first memories of coffee in your life?
- 31:34Were you exposed to motor oil coffee?
- 31:35Like Victor or your family drinking coffee together over
- 31:38the kitchen table like Libby or were you exposed to craft coffee
- 31:43more? In my case, it wasn't coffee at
- 31:44all. My first exposure came in the
- 31:46form of a coffee flavored hard candy that I definitely thought
- 31:50was going to be caramel. I hated it so much that I didn't
- 31:55taste so much as a sip of coffee for the next two decades.
- 31:58Decades, finally. Today the payoff for Romantics
- 32:01coffee isn't when someone tries it for the first time or even
- 32:05when Libyan Victor, see an order come in for a bag, it's when
- 32:09they come back for more. Those of you listening, might be
- 32:12one of those people providing that pay off someday.
- 32:15You can get your start by heading to Romantics coffee.com
- 32:19and you can follow their company and in some cases family Journey
- 32:22on Instagram at Romantics coffee.
- 32:25As always, I'll also include those links in this shows
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- 32:44I just got the stickers today. That's where you'll learn the
- 32:47ins and outs of making a better cup of coffee at home.
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- 33:28this show. So, I'm looking forward to
- 33:30getting started on season eight. We've already scheduled some
- 33:33great interviews with guests from Craft 42 Roasters up in
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- 33:40That's actually from my home town in Central Wisconsin.
- 33:43I'll be joining rho star for some live afternoon podcasting
- 33:46events at next, month's specialty, coffee Association
- 33:49Convention in Portland Oregon. If you're headed that way,
- 33:53please reach out. I'd love to connect with you.
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- 33:59You on the show for a few minutes, this episode of the
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- 34:10always by me Ryan Walt. I hope this episode is found you
- 34:15happy healthy and with at least enough sanity to make it through
- 34:19the day, always tip your Baristas and be sure to drink.
- 34:24Good coffee. Sorry about that.
- 34:56No. Yeah he decided to make his
- 34:59voice heard. Yeah.