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I Am All In…Again: The Gilmore Girl (Season 3, E13 “Dear Emily and Richard”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: How let's just you.
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  Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcasts. One of
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  Speaker 1: them productions. I heart Media, iHeart Radio, iHeart Podcasts. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of titles. It's a big company. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to recap season three, episode thirteen. Dear Emily
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  Speaker 1: and Richard, and I am joined by the illustrious Jacqueline
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  Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Suzanne French, formerly of the Intrepid Crew, who
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  Speaker 1: continues to be an Intrepid Crew representative, but now she's
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  Speaker 1: she's on the ball club. It's still Intrepid and there's
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  Speaker 1: no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going to join me today to to recap this, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this very moving episode. Sherry prepares to give birth and
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  Speaker 1: Christophers to Christopher's daughter, and we see flashbacks of Laurel
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  Speaker 1: and Chris, Christopher, a lot of flashbacks. Very very well done,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. Meanwhile, Luke and Nicole start dating. Gilman
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  Speaker 1: Cuso directed Amy Sherman Palladino wrote it, guys, what you
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  Speaker 1: think over all the episode? Susan, what's just what do
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  Speaker 1: you think of this?
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  Speaker 2: I liked it.
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  Speaker 4: I liked the flashbacks. It's that's always kind of a
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  Speaker 4: nice little, I don't want to say gimmick, but kind
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  Speaker 4: of a nice mechanism that shows can use to kind
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  Speaker 4: of give the backstory. So it was interesting to kind
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  Speaker 4: of see laurelized life and you really could see why
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  Speaker 4: she wanted to leave home with some of Emily's behavior.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought it was it was a good episode.
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  Speaker 2: I thought so too.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought it was interesting that they use Sherry's
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  Speaker 3: pregnancy or having her baby to the comparison of what
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  Speaker 3: Laura I went through. And I thought that was interesting
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  Speaker 3: that they did the flashbacks for that storyline because we
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  Speaker 3: could have gotten this before, Like we could have gotten
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  Speaker 3: this in season one, you know, but it's season three now,
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  Speaker 3: so I thought that was in mid season episode thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought that was good, And it was nice
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  Speaker 3: to see the juxtaposition of you know, Chris.
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  Speaker 2: And laural I look at the baby.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I'm going all the way to that,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like, that's what I think of, like those juxtapositions,
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  Speaker 3: like Chris and Laura.
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  Speaker 2: La and then Sherry and Laura light and the look
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  Speaker 2: on Laura's face.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you could, you could put those
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  Speaker 1: characters or the audience in a more awkward position, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Then Laura I found herself in staring at Christopher's new
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  Speaker 1: baby and Christopher being just so over the moon about
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  Speaker 1: it as one would be, even kissing her on the cheek,
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  Speaker 1: and hey, I'm flying and yeah, you know where was
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  Speaker 1: he sixteen?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was completely oblivious to what she was going through,
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  Speaker 4: which I mean is understandable, but still.
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  Speaker 3: Because he wasn't there. He wasn't there for actual Rory's birth. Right,
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  Speaker 3: she went in Lorlai went in by herself. No, correct, Okay, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the whole Yeah, that was the contrast
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  Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I just thought, you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: the this is the show that tells the story of
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  Speaker 1: the foundation of this show. This is what this entire
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  Speaker 1: show is built upon. And we we finally, after you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're what midway into season three, get to look back
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  Speaker 1: on what it was must have been like and actual reenactors.
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  Speaker 1: We had Lorelei and Christopher reenactors. We had Emily in
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  Speaker 1: a wig, we had Richard with dark hair, we had
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  Speaker 1: you know, we had these younger versions the sixteen years
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  Speaker 1: prior versions of these characters, and it was I thought
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  Speaker 1: very well done, very well done.
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  Speaker 4: It was interesting to see how Chris and Lorelai kind
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  Speaker 4: of started out. And I thought it was interesting because
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  Speaker 4: there's a few different episodes where we meet Christopher's parents
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  Speaker 4: and they basically are blaming Lurlai for Christopher not going
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  Speaker 4: to college. But we find out in this episode that
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  Speaker 4: he had already decided not to go to college, Like
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  Speaker 4: she didn't even know she was pregnant, so already decided
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  Speaker 4: that I hadn't realized before.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't either. Yeah, Yeah, he was Jack Kirouac before anything.
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  Speaker 1: And he was he was hitting the road. He was
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  Speaker 1: going to Europe to sleep in the park, as Emily
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  Speaker 1: Athlete put it, like a squirrel.
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  Speaker 2: I like how they had that.
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  Speaker 3: Also, like that storyline, that's where it came from. Like
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  Speaker 3: we're getting a lot of origin stories of this, Like
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  Speaker 3: the whole I packed up with worri Yeh was Loral
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  Speaker 3: and Christopher's original idea. So I love the background. And
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  Speaker 3: this made me wonder too, like they did with Jess
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  Speaker 3: when he goes to Venice, you know, and we know
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  Speaker 3: that was like the the try for the spin off, right,
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  Speaker 3: could this have been like an idea for the spin off,
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  Speaker 3: Like do you think that they would have Oh, let's
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  Speaker 3: see how this episode is with the viewers, and if
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  Speaker 3: they liked it, what if we can do a spinoff?
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  Speaker 3: Because I would love to see that spinoff of you know,
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  Speaker 3: Emily and Richard and in growing up in that house
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  Speaker 3: and you know, like that would be it would have
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  Speaker 3: been the pilot, that those flashbacks would have been the
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  Speaker 3: pilot and then you know, and then take it from
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  Speaker 3: there and you know, her going to the inn. I
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  Speaker 3: mean we see a little bit, do Susanna, We see
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  Speaker 3: when she arrives at the end, right.
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  Speaker 4: We hear about it, but we don't they we don't
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  Speaker 4: see it.
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  Speaker 3: See that would have been that can be a spinoff,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but I wonder if they even thought that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it could have been, like you know how
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  Speaker 4: how young Sheldon spun off a theory like it could
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  Speaker 4: have been like that kind of thing where he's like
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  Speaker 4: a different set of actors and just portraying those characters
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  Speaker 4: as younger people. That could have been. That could have
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  Speaker 4: been good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great writing, Like great writing.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Rory is particularly funny in this episode. She
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  Speaker 1: was so clumped at if that's the right word. Again,
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  Speaker 1: being caught in these positions where she's the only one there,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to go in. You know, the phone
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  Speaker 1: call to her mom, her paniced phone call to her
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  Speaker 1: mother is like you got to get here. They're giving
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  Speaker 1: me gloves, and it's like I've seen so many butts.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen too many butts to you know. It's just
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  Speaker 1: she's just really funny. She handled she handles the comedy
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  Speaker 1: very very well.
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  Speaker 5: Be my Bobby, right right, yeah good, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you think about this first, she's just like this high
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  Speaker 5: school teenager, like being put in that situation with this
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  Speaker 5: woman she doesn't really even know that well, and like,
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  Speaker 5: let's go watch a baby come out of.
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  Speaker 4: Her, Like that would be freaking her out. Like I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was great.
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  Speaker 3: I would react the same way if I was her age,
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  Speaker 3: yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And like she's trying to be helpful, like she's making
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  Speaker 4: phone calls and stuff for Sherry, like she doesn't know
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  Speaker 4: what else to do, so she's just kind of trying
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  Speaker 4: to follow along.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, And then Laurla gets pulled out of a
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  Speaker 1: Friday night dinner mercifully and has to come in there
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  Speaker 1: and rescue her daughter from potentially having to go into
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  Speaker 1: the you know, into the into the delivery room. I know,
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  Speaker 1: and still you know, and then Christopher shows up right,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's just I like the young
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  Speaker 1: I like the sixteen year old Christopher a lot better
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  Speaker 1: than I do the grown up one.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's true, because we were only getting inklings
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  Speaker 3: of the sixteen year old Christopher, and he had so
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  Speaker 3: much like I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Going to Europe, I'm gonna do this. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think about it?
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  Speaker 3: Lord? Like? He had so much more like like pizzazz
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  Speaker 3: to him and like life to him rather than you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, now we see what his father is
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  Speaker 1: like strobe strab strobe, strab strobe, and I mean if
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  Speaker 1: he's if he's you know, justifiably he's irate at this situation.
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  Speaker 1: But that guy, to me seems like he's very easy
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  Speaker 1: to anger, very quick to anger, and he probably just
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  Speaker 1: his son. Christopher just got sick of being abused by
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  Speaker 1: his father verbally, abused and bullied verbally like just I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go work for my I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go to college and deal with my dad. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go work for him. And deal with
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  Speaker 1: my dad, this abusive, loud, acerbic guy. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go to Europe and escape and do
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  Speaker 1: something else. I mean, can we just go raise the
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  Speaker 1: baby and you know, let's it's just wow.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be the same thing. I'd be like, peace out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stay here with this guy.
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  Speaker 6: What he suggested was horrendous, horrendous and Emily I like
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  Speaker 6: how she stuck up for Laura La you know, and
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  Speaker 6: so and Richard, you know, like stood up and.
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  Speaker 3: His presence again, his presence is like this is what
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  Speaker 3: we'll do, you know, and I'm just oh, I just
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  Speaker 3: snarled at the tavy like, oh you.
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  Speaker 4: They were very much like Richard and Emily, like very controlling,
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  Speaker 4: like this is this is what you're gonna do, and
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  Speaker 4: you don't have any say in the matter. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Strobe like was seeming and his wife like shut up,
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  Speaker 4: like very abusive and just yeah really not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, and Christopher grew up around that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's not the first time Strobe's been like that.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm out of here, man, I don't
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  Speaker 1: need this so exactly. Yeah, now I sympathize a little
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  Speaker 1: more realizing that, you know, Christopher grew up in this
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  Speaker 1: just horrible household. You know, no matter how much money you have, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're witnessing your father doing that to
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  Speaker 1: you and your mother every day, it's just like whoa.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I get when he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to leave, you know, and then you know he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a.
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  Speaker 2: Male figure that he could like, you know, realize what
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  Speaker 2: he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when he you know, Loralai has the baby
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  Speaker 3: and has worried and stuff, it's just right, he's just
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  Speaker 3: trying to escape.
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  Speaker 2: He's just trying to escape from the household he grew up.
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  Speaker 3: But then he's doing the same I don't know about
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  Speaker 3: the same mistakes because we don't know that much about
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  Speaker 3: like his childhood, but it's like he has no he
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  Speaker 3: has no model.
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  Speaker 2: To go after.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like another sort of iteration of a Huntsburger.
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  Speaker 1: The wealthy men, the wealthy fathers in this show are
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  Speaker 1: not depicted as being you know, barely human beings. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they lack empathy, they lack feelings. They just tend to
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  Speaker 1: crush people and bulldoze people. You know, and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: richer it comes off better than both of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: yet still he's considered to be extreme, right, yeah, so yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The generational trauma that keeps passing on. You know, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to break it, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, right does It's yeah, and those societal expectations that
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  Speaker 4: you're going to follow this pattern whether you want to
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  Speaker 4: or not. Like it's just with like all of them,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, with Logan and Christopher and Laura, it's
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  Speaker 4: like this is you know, the canducks have to be
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  Speaker 4: six inches apart, and you know, bad things are going
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  Speaker 4: to happen if they're not, like all the crazy rules
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  Speaker 4: that are just imposed by by that society.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was bad, very bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know that was you know, those narratives in
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  Speaker 1: this episode were nice little side dishes, but let's get
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  Speaker 1: to the beating heart of this episode. Luke is reading
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  Speaker 1: a book and the resident just kidding.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's like the nice it's the levity we have
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  Speaker 3: so much heavy with that, and then it's so nice
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  Speaker 3: that we have Luke Steiner and Kirk and Jess and Dean.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like it's just the more levity of.
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  Speaker 3: It, you know, like it's not as heavy because and
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  Speaker 3: that's what That's what Amy Sherman did on this episode.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I like that episode between Dean and I'm
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  Speaker 1: liking Dean more and more and just less and less.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, these are bad Jess episodes.
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  Speaker 1: These are not These are not good for Jess, are they.
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  Speaker 1: He's just coming off like just he's he's so punk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's just such a punk. And Dean is just holding
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  Speaker 1: standing his ground and smiling and having fun controlling him.
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  Speaker 1: And you know it's time to be a professional and
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  Speaker 1: take my order and don't screw it up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know this isn't about you and me right now
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  Speaker 1: that you want to you want to step outside and
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  Speaker 1: sudden he goes, I'd love to after we finish ordering.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Nichols on the side of what you know,
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  Speaker 3: they did so good and that likes them too. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, kids, listen, I wanted to give you a little
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  Speaker 1: information on my convention schedule San Antonio, Texas, and that
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  Speaker 1: is called a Stars Hollow Valentines. So Sean Gun and
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  Speaker 1: I will be there and other Gilmour people February fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: and fifteenth, san Antonio, Texas, and we are going to
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  Speaker 1: be in Richmond, Virginia, Galaxy Con March nineteen twenty and
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  Speaker 1: twenty one. And then hey, y'allup Washington rewind Con in
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  Speaker 1: Washington State and that is March twenty eighth and twenty ninth, Greenville,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina Comic Con April eleventh and twelfth, Manchester, UK
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  Speaker 1: April eighteen nineteen, New Orleans, Louisiana Gallaxicon July eleventh and twelfth.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll there's more to come. San Jose August
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  Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three. That's a Galaxy Con as
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  Speaker 1: well a San Jose Galaxy Con. So a lot coming up.
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  Speaker 1: I'll fill you in on the rest of it. There's more.
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  Speaker 1: It's a busy convention year for the kid here, so
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  Speaker 1: hope to see everybody out there. Much love. So Luke
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  Speaker 1: and Nicole, what do we think of Luke all cleaned
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  Speaker 1: up and going out on a date. And that was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty pretty raucous funny scene with Lurlei pointing at
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  Speaker 1: Nicole who was on her cell phone and Luke trying
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  Speaker 1: to hold her arms down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: so funny because she's just.
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  Speaker 3: Like the sofa and this because we're all thinking it
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  Speaker 3: we're all thinking it, Lauraai.
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  Speaker 2: We're all thinking it.
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  Speaker 3: And you guys' physical comedy was so on point in
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  Speaker 3: that little like ten seconds that you guys.
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  Speaker 2: You can just tell that you guys were having.
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  Speaker 3: Fun filming that. Like it was just silly and it
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  Speaker 3: made me laugh. And so and it's interesting because it's like, also,
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  Speaker 3: Luke the character would never allow that for anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: But he's trying to be fancy. He's trying to read
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  Speaker 3: a book to like, you know, like he feels he
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  Speaker 3: needs up his game with Nicole because she's a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, you know, like, and then he's
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  Speaker 3: been silly with Loralai. I'm like, I prefer the silly
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  Speaker 3: Laura life like stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just good. It was so good.
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  Speaker 3: I like, again, this is the juxtaposition they're showing and
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  Speaker 3: a lot in this whole episode. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing. It's like the juxtaposition of Emily and Richard
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  Speaker 3: and Laura and then you know, Sherry, Christopher and Laurai
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  Speaker 3: and then now this like Lorlai and Luke and then
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  Speaker 3: now Nicole and Luke, and so I'm like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Laura's getting it from all sides is her baby father
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  Speaker 1: is having another baby with another woman, and then her
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  Speaker 1: dude Luke sort of non dude dude aiding someone else, right.
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  Speaker 6: Non dude dude, non dude dude.
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  Speaker 2: That was good. That was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she takes it in stride, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She does. It was really funny. I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: Good, and I like, yeah, Nicole, I think is just
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't really know much about her,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not really invested, which I.
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  Speaker 4: Think was intentional, Like they don't really tell us that
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  Speaker 4: much of her backstory because I think she's really just
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  Speaker 4: meant to be like kind of a distraction to delay
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  Speaker 4: Luke and LORELEI doing whatever they're going to do. So
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  Speaker 4: she she comes off as kind of flat to me,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know, I mean, she's okay. It's kind
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  Speaker 4: of nice to see Luke at the beginning of a relationship,
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  Speaker 4: Like we saw him with Rachel, but that was already
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  Speaker 4: that was kind of a resumption of an established relationship,
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  Speaker 4: so it's kind of something different to see Luke at
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of a relationship. It was kind of cute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like he's he's investing, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: researching because we all know he researches and to you know,
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  Speaker 3: see see her face, you know. In the later episodes
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  Speaker 3: with Lorlai, you know, he reads a book, he's listening
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  Speaker 3: to a tape, like he's like, Okay, I gotta like learn,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta learn about how what I can do in
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  Speaker 3: this relationship. And I like that he goes the extra
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  Speaker 3: mile for his relationships and that's just who he is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and so I like that he.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that might also because Loralai is with
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  Speaker 4: Alex at this point, so he might kind of see that,
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  Speaker 4: oh I missed that opportunity again. You know, maybe I
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  Speaker 4: need to like improve my skills somehow so that these
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  Speaker 4: relationships won't keep getting away from me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying. He's trying to see you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh she's she's trying. She's dating someone else. Let me
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  Speaker 2: see what I you know, like like go.
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  Speaker 3: Fishing in the pond, you know, like, yeah, we see
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: what's out there, you know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And I mean we all.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Know we want them together, but you know, like, yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I like that they're you know, you got to date
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: all the kiss all the frogs, find the prince, you.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Know, right, you got to make sure, yeah, and Jess
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: had a good moment. There's just you know when they
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get back from their day and he says, I'm going
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to go out now for about an hour, about an
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: hour hour, about an hour.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I love it thirty at night.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I love it thirty a night.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: What do you mean an hour?
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Gone for about an hour?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: He's not getting No, he's totally not It's always the
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: concern is the first thing. It's like, that's not safe,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you can't go out there. And then I didn't get
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: it though, when they were like pre outside in the window,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Like didn't get it, okay, because I thought that was
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: so funny.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I loved it. And Nicole is looking and then Kirk's
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: in the back He's like.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not going to take the cole upstairs
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and oh and do the deed. You know, we had
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a good date. I mean, that's why you just got
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: smacked in the head, right, what are you thinking about?
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Just is thinking about it from the teenage perspective they
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: have done.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It was so good. It was very cute.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I get you had these moments Luke at him like
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: you with Scott, But I mean, you know, you look
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: at these moments where he's like doing this with like
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: lor Lyon's like then he's doing that with you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: leaving his arms with Jess. I thought it was a
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: very good Luke was a very good like like comic
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: relief and levity of this episode, you know, with everything
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: else in the flashbacks and stuff.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So and then Rory too, of.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Course, all right, I have a bone to pick with
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Where is she? She's not in this episode.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's in one scene and we see that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the they're throwing a party at the Dragonfly, Yes, and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the guy it's a golf themed party, and the guy
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: is you know, keeps changing his mind. He keeps changing
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the theme, so they they have to cancel all the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: golf themed decorations. And and then Loralai opens the door
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to the kitchen and gives Suki the look like he
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: changes mind again. And she has this giant golf ball
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: cake and she just dumps it in the garbage. Wait
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a minute, wait, what are you doing? That's a good cake.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You could everybody is slice right in right, Yeah, don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: watch that episode if you're hungry. I was very hungry.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I was, and I ran I got a piece of cake.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Actually after I saw that. Okay, guys, let's let's talk
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: about this.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Should Laura l I have.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Gone to the hospital in the first place? I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: can you deny your daughter?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: She went for Ryeah, she went for Rory, and she
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: got hit in the face with memories. Yeah, and not
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: necessarily good ones. Yeah, you know, and but maybe the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: greatest memory mixed in with the greatest memory of her
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: life is having Rory.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: That's why she looked when she's looking at the gig,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you know, she says, she's the second Rory was perfect,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: you know, like.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she couldn't not go.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: You made sure Christopher knew that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The second place.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because he was kind of being a jerk
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: about it, like not intentionally, but he's acting like this
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: is the first kid he's ever had. And yeah, he
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: wasn't at Rory's birth, but he's he's still just kind
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: of not paying attention to what is going on with
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Laura I.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He's so unconscious.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Well, and it it kind of what kind of bugged
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: me is that when he when Laurel I and Rory
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: were on the couch in the lobby and he comes
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: out and he's like, oh, you know, it's over, she's here.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: He takes he tells Laura, He's like, oh, let Rory sleep,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: We'll we'll show her later. Like the whole reason that
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: they were there was so that Rory could see her
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: little sister. But he only cared about showing Laura. I like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: he wasn't even giving a thought to Rory. And that
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: kind of bugged me too. It was like, let you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: come here, Laurela. I let's let me show off my
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: new baby to you, and we'll just leave Rory on
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the couch, even though that's the only reason you're even
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: here is because Rory. It just he just always, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: don't know, he always puts Rory on the back burner.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: And I hate that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean notice that. That's a good point. That's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a good point.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of always bugged me about the episode.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, he's always yeah exactly.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It's just these little moments show like how he's handled
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: being an absentee.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Father to Rory.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, let me show Yeah, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: never noticed that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she's just never foremost in his thoughts.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It's always, yeah, it's always.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It's it's really at the point and demonstrably so. It's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: really at the point where you almost feel like Rory
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: dodged a bullet by by by Christopher being so absent
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in her life. Like that's a good thing, you know
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that you have to put that in the win column.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Had that clown been involved in her life at any
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: level with any real consistency, would not have maybe not
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: have been such a good thing, right.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Because it's true he would have like it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: You know, you want your I played volleyball in high
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: school and I you know, like my dad.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Worked in the evenings and when he came he it
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: was like great, he was like, oh, you made a game.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I imagine like Laura lies in debate club and she's at
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: debate and he doesn't show up because he's like puts
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: he you know.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Something happens.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I imagine him being that kind of dad and to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know, like feel that disappointment of like not being
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: supported by one of your parents. I guess, yeah, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: never realized that, Yeah, totally dodged a bullet.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you want to have a father that's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: in and out of your life, and you know he
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: shows up once in a while, but most of the time, No,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that's bad. Yeah, yeah, might as well just f off
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and stay gone, right.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what Laura I did for her, right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's exactly the gift that Laura I gave
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: her daughter is she told Christopher stay away. Yeah, you're
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: not a part this. That's the best move she ever made.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's why that girl, that's why that girl is so strong.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I think it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Would have been interesting to see because in the flashbacks,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: we see when she's born and then the next flashback
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: is a year later when Lorlai has left, and I
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: think it would be interesting to see what happened in
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: that first year of Rory's life, Like how involved was
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Christopher Because Lorlai didn't leave with Christopher, she left by herself,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So what happened there, Like did he not want to
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: leave after all? Or you know, I don't know. I
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: just think it would be interesting to see, like how
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: involved was Christopher in that first year.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That would be season one of the spin off.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Called Lorlai Gilmore, the Gilmore Girl, you know, the Gilmore Girl.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I would venture a guess that he was not involved
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it could be Suzanne.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Did we know do we know Christopher left on that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: trip right after Loralai had Rory.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I don't really know anything about We know he at
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: some point wound up in California, but we don't know
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: like what happened in the interim. We just know he
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: was kind of floating around and yeah he wasn't Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: they didn't really go into you know, he didn't go
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: to college and he went to California. But beyond that,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: they didn't get it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, prequel please.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. That would be pretty cool.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That would be so amazing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it just even in his finest hour
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: with a new baby, he still managed to deliver the douchiness.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable, right right, he just help it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, and and Lauren did
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: such a great job. And I know, like you guys
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: would mention face acting a lot like in the first
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: seas that spin around, like the face that she like
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: when they're looking at the baby, and then.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: As Sugarman, Yes, the face face acting is a Sugarman invention.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But it's like, again, you don't need to be a new.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Category in the in the Oscars nine Best face acting.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well give it retroactive to the Emmy
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to Lauren.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, you're saying, Lauren now is excelling at
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the face acting the art of face acting.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in this episode, her face acting is is number one.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when they were standing at that window in the nursery,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you could totally see all of the thoughts she's having
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: just on her face.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was great. And then even when you
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: know she comes in to help Sherry, Sherry.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Bugged in this episode like I'm like, girl.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But please relax, Like it made me.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Nervous, you know, but you know she's out of her mind.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Didn't understand least that she's about to have baby.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But what do you think when you were pregnant, Susanne?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: It was the first time was was that? Was that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a reasonable depiction of of a woman a giving birth?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's different for different women, but I had
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I had.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: A sixteen hour labor and then had a C section,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: So I was not thinking about work even for one second.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not making phone calls, I was not asking anything.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I wasn't even thinking about work. So I don't know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: And they kind of changed her story because remember when
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: we first met Sherry, they said, they said that, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: she wanted kids so bad that she was thinking about
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: just having kids on her own without you know, being
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: in a relationship. And so now all of a sudden,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: she suddenly hates kids, not hates kids, but like they
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: established that she's not a baby person, and yeah, they
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: kind of changed the character a little, like.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It's interrupting her plans of being a career woman and
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: like that marine girl.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, she she messed up. She messed up. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, okay, as someone who.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Had an unexpected early birth with my son because he
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: came at seven months, like I just try to stay calm,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: like because I didn't. I mean I remember going to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the hospital at four am on fourth of July and
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: being like, okay, I'm only seven months pregnant, Like what's
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: happening And the doctor was like was like, uh, you're
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: not leaving here without a baby, and I'm like, I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: only seven months pregnant. So that's a whole different episode,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and you know, dealing with that trauma and all that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: But he's healthy, he's fine, he's okay.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, I tried, I don't relate to share
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it at all, like being crazy like that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I just tried to stay calm and just like nodded
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: my head and just like breathe, you know, and stay calm.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially in that situation because you're worried about like
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: the medical aspects of it and colors, you know, what
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: could happen. So yeah, it's yeah, but even like mine
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: was with my son, who also was I went into
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: labor on fourth of July, so yeah, he was born
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: on July fifth, but labor, I still like, wasn't thinking
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: about work at all.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same, yeah, yeah, same.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I think I sent a text to Danielle and been
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: like I'm in labor, okay, and she took me like
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: off all the group chats and stuff like that, because
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: it was again a big surprise. I mean, like I
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: was both had my baby shower two weeks later. You know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: it was like so, I mean, like you, it was
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: just one text and it was it was fine, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: no work, no, no, no.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Let's kind of dive back into these flashbacks. You know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: The one thing that really stood out for me in
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the flashbacks is just how annoying Emily was, back to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: how overbearing, how inappropriate, how angry. She was that she
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: just could not handle this situation with any kind of
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: human decency and just it's just screaming, full throated screaming
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: at her daughter as she's going into a delivery room. Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and Richard worried about his shoes.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And yeah, that was an interesting contrast.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Trying trying to trying to control this, you know, his
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: wife who was just like just it was just so abusive.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I mean the hospital staff. I mean, if something like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that happened today, you know, hospital staff would might call
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the cops on that she did.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: She was like, you need to leave, like the protective
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: door line.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that is a person who is
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: in a let's let's call what it is, a life
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: threatening suitchuation. If that doesn't go well, I mean, you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: can lose your life in that delivery room things don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: go well, and the baby too. Yeah, here's Emily, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: her contribution to her own daughter's comfort and her her
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: moment of true need is to be screamed a horrible
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So that is there you go. I mean again, that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like a female strobe yes, and like, let's get away
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: from that and stay away from that exactly.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: And she even said at one point, She's like, it's
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: my right to drive my daughter to the hospital, like
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: she always makes it about herself and Richard, but neither
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: one of them had a single thought for Laura I.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Richard was concerned about his shoes and Emily was only
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: concerned that you know, she didn't get brought in earlier.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Like neither one of them had a single care for
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Laura I. And so we really can see she could
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: just detach herself from the family and just you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: like they said on Friends, she just lives right out
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: like you know, she could.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Just her parents are monsters. Yeah they are not, They're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: barely human. Yeah, I mean these are these are monstrous
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: people and their needs are disgusting and it's I've never
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: seen it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: So yeah, they're they're not good parents at all.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Now we have like the empathy for I mean a
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: little bit mister, but a lot for Lurla, you know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: like like of why they made the choices that they did.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was really good to like visually
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: see it because that's the catalyst of the show.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, now now we can see it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And they did a really good job with like showing
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: how horrendous they were, right.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Amy, Sharon Pellagino really does not like the rich. Well,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I mean she created a great contrast.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Between these two exactly exactly.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's a really it's a really fabulous tension, yes, really fabulous.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: But that was so over the top.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It was just like, yeah, yeah, she does do a
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: good job of detaching herself, Laura I does. At that age,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: you know, sixteen, she goes in the hospital, you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: like by herself, you know, And it just shows you
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: the strength of Laura as well, and what it took
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: for her to leave, you know, to leave that household,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: and the strength, you know, how strong of a woman
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: she is to raise her daughter at sixteen and show
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: up to an inn.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You know, she had no choice, yeah, exactly.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It was either that or go live with Satan. No thanks. Yeah,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in the gardening shit right, it starts.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: All up, I mean exactly exactly.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's better than living with the devil herself.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: It shows you how bad it must have been because
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: she had all of her physical needs met and but
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: she wasn't getting her emotional needs met. And so think
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: about how how bad it must have been for her
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to think, Okay, running away with my infant daughter is
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: better than staying here Like that just shows how bad
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it really was. It wasn't like she just made this
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: decision like now off the cup. It was like clearly
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: going to live in a's shed with better decision. That
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: shows just how terrible it was.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Unless you do exactly what we want you to do,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: unless you turn out exactly the way we want you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to turn out, which is exactly like us. Unless you
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: do those things, we will destroy you. And that's really
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the bargain. And that Richard and Emily struck with their own,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: their only child.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm. It's insane.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And it shows you Mama bear strength, you know, rest
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: with you know, maybe Emily didn't have this with hers,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: but he shows you like mama bear strength.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: With her.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not putting my child through this.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I tell you. Talk about giving a you know, a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: lead character of a show, uh, the nuclear fuel needed
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  Speaker 1: to fight the good fight. Yeah, and to be beloved
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  Speaker 1: for it. So I mean, wow, yeah, great setup?
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  Speaker 2: Great, Yes, great setup. I want a prequel?
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, going going back to the tying into the
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: prequel idea, I guess there's a lot of people that
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: have sympathy for Emily because they think, well, she just
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  Speaker 4: that's how she was raised, and she just acts the
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  Speaker 4: only way that she knows how to act, which is
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: kind of the other side of the corner. So it
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  Speaker 4: would be interesting to see how maybe Emily like her
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  Speaker 4: earlier years And is that a reflection really of her
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  Speaker 4: upbringing art or is it not, because you know, she's
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  Speaker 4: just she's just so, she's just meat.
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  Speaker 1: What could produce such a rigid person? And I mean
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  Speaker 1: her mother probably beat her over the head with a
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  Speaker 1: shoe every day because a hair was out of place,
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  Speaker 1: or there was a piece of cloth on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a stitch that she didn't notice that came undone on
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  Speaker 1: her suit or whatever, jack.
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  Speaker 2: A suit jacket.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of the time when Emily's mother, like Lorde
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  Speaker 3: learned that all of that was that probably the forties,
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, it's like everybody is of their time,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like right, So I just think like it's
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  Speaker 3: generational of the time of like when you grew up
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  Speaker 3: in the society, you know, like all that stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think media medium severe trauma is passed
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  Speaker 1: on a lot easier than any other traditions. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that from generation to generations. So I think that
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  Speaker 1: Emily must have come from some very severe trauma to
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  Speaker 1: end up like this and treating her daughter like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like she hated her. She like loathed
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  Speaker 1: her own daughter. And that is a phenomenon that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of children experience that their parents actually hate them,
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  Speaker 1: or one of their parents hates them or is jealous
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  Speaker 1: of them, or doesn't think that they're particularly swift in
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  Speaker 1: certain areas and they let them know about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's some horrible parenting going on, and it's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: in loralized case, it just it presented itself as as
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  Speaker 1: a very easy option to avoid, you know, just like
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  Speaker 1: got it. In order to thrive, you got to cut
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  Speaker 1: that off, walk away, And just I'm surprised she didn't
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  Speaker 1: go farther from home. You know, that's a California story, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like you go, you go three thousand miles away to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: get away from that level of evil, right, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have had Gilmore, I know, right, right.
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  Speaker 3: So many people relate to this, Like you said, it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's so beloved because so many people can relate
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  Speaker 3: to this, and it's just the legacy of this show
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  Speaker 3: is because of we're seeing ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Portrayed back to us, right, so that's why we.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think Laura, I think a sixteen year old
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  Speaker 1: Laura I with a baby, is in such desperate straits
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  Speaker 1: that she had to take the first option, and that
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  Speaker 1: was you know Mia. I mean, I mean, what what
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  Speaker 1: is the story of her, you know, showing up at
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  Speaker 1: the Dragonfly and doing what? What? How did she end
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  Speaker 1: up at the Dragonfly and how did she how how
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  Speaker 1: did Mia come into her life?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? The Independence in Fort.
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  Speaker 1: The Independence in first for the Dragonfly. So that's where
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  Speaker 1: she left Hartford to get away from Satan. She ended
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  Speaker 1: up and stars hollow at the Independence in somehow, right,
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  Speaker 1: she meets Mia, and Mia takes her in and takes
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  Speaker 1: pity on her and helps her out, and that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the story.
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  Speaker 4: Like she basically just wandered in there and asked for
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: a job, like she knew she had to somehow make
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  Speaker 4: a living instead. Yeah, so she wanders in with her
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  Speaker 4: baby and it's like, do you have a job? So right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty ballsy, you know. And again it
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  Speaker 4: just points to how desperate she was to get out
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  Speaker 4: of that house because a lot of teenagers wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Do that, So she couldn't have gone that far from
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  Speaker 1: Hartford because she had her baby to take care of
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  Speaker 1: and she had to.
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  Speaker 3: Do it fun but yeah, and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have to carry your baby and your maybe a bag.
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  Speaker 2: Of clothes and all that.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, Mia tells the story when Emily goes and
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  Speaker 3: visits the Independence in right, and she's like she showed up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then explains the story. And then Emily
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  Speaker 3: asked for photos. You know, yeah, I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: That was good.
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  Speaker 1: You imagine being so wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wow. And she never sees it, like she never
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  Speaker 4: she gets close to it a couple of times, but
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  Speaker 4: Emily never really sees it. I don't think, yeah wow,
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  Speaker 4: she never takes responsibility for her role in the relationship.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: It's always laurelized fault.
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  Speaker 1: Powerful episode. It was really powerful. This is a very
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  Speaker 1: this is this might be the most powerful episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just answering all those origin questions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we get her, And that was that was very well done.
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  Speaker 1: Those two actors were really good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that that actress really captured laurelized youthful spirit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she did the recklessness, the rebellion, the intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the likability, all of that, and and and
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  Speaker 1: that kid played a great Christopher. I like the young
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  Speaker 1: I like the six ten year old Christopher better. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I think we all just now I see it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: get away from that Strobe and you get away from
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  Speaker 1: that Emily, and we're gonna do it in Europe, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: be squirrels and sleep in the park and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: figure it out together somehow. Yeah, you started out with
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: good intentions, but you know, I guess he just didn't
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  Speaker 1: grow into it anyway. Uh. Final thoughts, Jackie, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Great episode. I love the origin.
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  Speaker 3: I love just getting, like you said, getting your answers
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  Speaker 3: question or getting our questions answered.
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  Speaker 2: And then again, I want to see the prequel. That's
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  Speaker 2: my thing.
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  Speaker 3: This this gave me a taste and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 3: let's do some more with this, or like a movie
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  Speaker 3: like like Lord Greb keep saying to Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Movie, Well, why don't we have like, you know, like
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: one prequel movie or something like I don't know whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Thrown it out there, Susanne.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I agree. I thought it was a great episode.
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  Speaker 4: And I one other quick note. We didn't really get
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  Speaker 4: into the storyline, but the whole sub story with the
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: DVD player. I thought that was that was a good
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  Speaker 4: way to close the episode because we have all this
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  Speaker 4: super heavy stuff and then it kind of like lightens
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  Speaker 4: up at the end with you know, them bonding over
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  Speaker 4: the DVDs and Laurel I's gonna go install the DVD players.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought that was nice. Laurela I made, you know,
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  Speaker 4: an attempt to kind of get to know Emily a
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  Speaker 4: little bit better. So I thought it was a great
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  Speaker 4: way to kind of end that episode with all of
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the heaviness with just a little sort of yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and about those DVDs.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: When she was listing off like Footlooth, Flash Dance, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: thought she was gonna list Dirty Dancing, and that would
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: have been like a nice nod to Kelly Bishop, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: she could have like looked at the DVD and would
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: have been like, Oh, I love that movie.
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  Speaker 2: It's dirty Dancing. That would be cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be cool because that's of that era,
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  Speaker 3: you know, those dance movies.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that you're right, Susanna.
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  Speaker 3: The DVD was then it was nice because it's a
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  Speaker 3: j exposition of what their relationship was back then so.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, really enjoyed it. Thank you Jackie, Thank you Suzanne
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  Speaker 1: for filling in. We had Brad Pitt was coming in,
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  Speaker 1: but he had to cancel.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would die if Brad Pitt showed
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  Speaker 3: up in her.
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  Speaker 1: We finally booked Brad Pitt, and then, you know, I grew.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Up with a poster of that man on my on
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  Speaker 3: my wall, Legends of the Fall and Leona DiCaprio.
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  Speaker 2: I would freak out, like, yeah, I had the legend
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  Speaker 2: the long hair, Oh my god, yeah, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, Brad Pitt, come on by anyway.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We're going to reschedule Brad. His dance cards pretty full.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get him on here one day.
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  Speaker 2: One day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll be speechless and I won't be I'll
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: be tongue tied.
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  Speaker 2: I won't be able to Yeah, I think we all
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  Speaker 2: will be.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a lot of fun. I could see
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  Speaker 1: you guys, and I don't know, I'm gonna talk to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to sugar Man. Maybe make this a thing,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, I mean, they'll make it
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  Speaker 1: like a regular thing. I enjoyed this anyway, Thanks everybody
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  Speaker 1: for downloads, keep the cards and letters coming, and best
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  Speaker 1: fans on the planet. I'll see in Nashville. Then the
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: following week I'll be abe San Antonio, and then I've
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• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in England, and then I'm gonna be in Germany, and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be back in the States, and it's
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