Latest / Crohn's & Colitis Unfiltered / The long way to diagnosis and recovery: Sarah's ostomy marathon
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- 0:02It's given me a lot of perspective on life and
- 0:06I think also like resilience just in like my
- 0:11daily life things because nothing I go through
- 0:16feels as bad as what IBD has put me through.
- 0:20So I just feel like I'm able to get through those
- 0:23things because I've already been through worse.
- 0:26This is Sarah. who after eight long years of
- 0:29suffering, finally got diagnosed with ulcerative
- 0:31colitis at age 23 in Washington, D .C. Sarah
- 0:35started dabbling in treatments, but the damage
- 0:38to her colon was already done. And in 2024, she
- 0:41woke up with an ostomy. Today, on the Colitis
- 0:44Unfiltered podcast, Sarah tells us all about
- 0:47her IBD journey, complications, surgery, and
- 0:50taking her life back. My name is Frank Tabering,
- 0:53and Sarah, welcome to the show. Hi, thank you
- 0:56so much for having me today. And thank you for
- 0:59taking the time to speak to me specifically about
- 1:02your IBD journey. Let's just go straight into
- 1:05it and right to the beginning. Let's start with
- 1:08symptoms. What was it that, you know, happened
- 1:12to you where you noticed that something was wrong,
- 1:15something was off, something that prompted you
- 1:17to go out and seek some medical care? very first
- 1:26symptom because it was very sudden and very severe.
- 1:32So I was about 15 and all of a sudden I became
- 1:40really nauseous and I had thrown up like 15 times
- 1:43in a day. So I went to the hospital. And was
- 1:47having really horrible stomach pains. And I was
- 1:51hospitalized for, I think, about three days.
- 1:54And nothing came of it. They just said, oh, your
- 1:58stomach hurt. Maybe you had a food infection.
- 2:02And then... After that, I started having recurring
- 2:06symptoms where I was having frequent bowel movements,
- 2:08a lot of stomach pain, and it would come and
- 2:12go. For me, for some reason, I always had flare
- 2:14-ups between February and August every single
- 2:17year. No doctor can explain why, but in the winter,
- 2:21I was always fine, and in the summer, I would
- 2:23have horrible flare -ups. And because of that,
- 2:26I think no one would diagnose me with ulcerative
- 2:29colitis. because ulcerative colitis usually doesn't
- 2:32follow in seasonal pattern but it was never food
- 2:37allergies for me and so through the years it
- 2:41just kept getting worse and my symptoms would
- 2:44worsen and I was in so much pain I would lose
- 2:47a ton of weight when I was in my flare -ups and
- 2:51that was always just really difficult for me
- 2:53because I always wanted to be active and I couldn't
- 2:56be active when I lose all this weight and I couldn't
- 2:58eat and I was throwing up and having so many
- 3:00bowel movements. So I'd go to doctors and I remember
- 3:04they would tell me, oh, you just have an eating
- 3:06disorder. And I didn't have an eating disorder,
- 3:08but because I became really thin and I would
- 3:11say I was having difficulty eating and I'm like
- 3:13throwing up after eating, I had several GIs telling
- 3:16me, oh, it's probably just an eating disorder.
- 3:19Over the years, I had many colonoscopies when
- 3:23I was in a flare and they would say that there
- 3:27was mild ulceration, but it's probably just IBS.
- 3:31I don't know why they would think it's just IBS
- 3:34if I had ulcers. So at about 16, I basically
- 3:40self -diagnosed myself with ulcerative colitis
- 3:43because I just knew. Based on my symptoms and
- 3:46research, I knew and I kept asking doctors to
- 3:49look into it. And I kept getting the eating disorder
- 3:53answer or it's just IBS. So, and then in 2021,
- 4:01I went to law school in Washington, D .C. And
- 4:04my second year into law school, I got appendicitis.
- 4:10And when they took out the appendix and the pathology
- 4:14report came back that I had a tumor in my appendix
- 4:17that caused the appendicitis. So in order to
- 4:22rule out that there was no cancer anywhere else
- 4:25in my intestinal tract, I had another colonoscopy.
- 4:29And during that colonoscopy, they diagnosed me
- 4:32with ulcerative colitis, which they said there's
- 4:35no more tumors, which is really exciting, but
- 4:38that I did have ulcerative colitis. And that
- 4:41was such a relief to hear because I knew for
- 4:46so long. And I was having these horrible symptoms.
- 4:49And I was so excited because now I could finally
- 4:51get treatment. And I didn't know, I guess, what
- 4:57ulcerative colitis could consist of other than
- 5:00I was scared that I needed to manage it so I
- 5:04didn't get colon cancer. But other than that,
- 5:07I didn't know what it would consist of other
- 5:10than needing to go to the bathroom many times
- 5:12a day. Wow. A long journey before you were diagnosed.
- 5:18And if I did my math right, that means that between
- 5:21age 15 and age 23, you never received an official
- 5:26colitis diagnosis. Am I right? Yes, and no treatment
- 5:30at all. Well, that's insane. I mean, I recently
- 5:35talked to somebody who made a very good point
- 5:37in saying that not every GI is specializing in
- 5:41IBD, right? Because, I mean, we have this...
- 5:43idea of a gastroenterologist just being knowledgeable
- 5:47enough to pick up on a colitis or Crohn's diagnosis
- 5:51just by doing colonoscopies. So what you're saying
- 5:53is that you've had several colonoscopies before
- 5:56actually having another colonoscopy that gave
- 6:00you the official diagnosis, right? Yes. Wow.
- 6:04So you said that you sort of self -diagnosed
- 6:09earlier on, which basically means that you've
- 6:13certainly came in contact with the term ulcerative
- 6:16colitis but when at 23 when at 23 your doctor
- 6:21at that time officially handed you the diagnosis
- 6:24what went through your mind because obviously
- 6:29i think ulcerative colitis was not a completely
- 6:31strange term to you so were you were you more
- 6:36on the calmer side were you surprised like how
- 6:39did you process that mentally I remember just
- 6:42feeling a lot of relief that I had a name and
- 6:49like a label for what I was going through because
- 6:52it had been so many years of like really suffering
- 6:58with these GI issues and trying so hard to find
- 7:02an answer. So it kind of just felt like I was
- 7:05able to, like the puzzle was finally put together.
- 7:10like, just diagnosing yourself with an autoimmune
- 7:14disease does not get you treatment, and I kind
- 7:17of sometimes just didn't believe myself because
- 7:20it would go away, and I didn't understand, like,
- 7:23flare -ups that sometimes you are perfectly fine,
- 7:26and then other times you're gonna shit your pants
- 7:29on the way to the supermarket. So, like, I, whenever
- 7:35I would, like, improve. I just like no longer
- 7:39believed myself that I was sick. So getting that
- 7:42diagnosis was just such a relief. And I remember
- 7:47just being really excited that I was going to
- 7:49be able to be treated. Absolutely. Okay, so diagnosis,
- 7:55well, official diagnosis at age 23. Now take
- 8:00us through the journey from there to where you
- 8:04are today. That was a crazy journey. I think
- 8:12it was January 2023 I was diagnosed, and then
- 8:20by July 2025 I had an ostomy. So January 2023
- 8:27I was put on a round of prednisone, which...
- 8:32I loved because I had lost so much weight and
- 8:35then I was able to eat like three pizzas in one
- 8:37go. So I was like, oh, I'm going to be able to
- 8:39like regain all this weight. And it was awesome.
- 8:43And then I was put on mesalamine, the oral mesalamine.
- 8:49So it's like the six giant pills a day. And I
- 8:53had taken the mesalamine for maybe like six months.
- 8:58And then I didn't realize how bad ulcerative
- 9:02colitis could get, and I thought, well, I've
- 9:06lived with it for this long, and I don't feel
- 9:08like taking six huge pills a day. So I stopped
- 9:12taking the mesalamine, which probably was not
- 9:14the best decision, but I just, I didn't know
- 9:18how bad it could be. And then through law school,
- 9:23I think the stress just really exacerbated my
- 9:27IBD, and then I So I was like in a non flare
- 9:32up. I was using the bathroom probably 12 times
- 9:35a day. So I'd be leaving classes coming back.
- 9:39I'd probably leave each three hour class like
- 9:42four times to go have a bowel movement. So that
- 9:47was pretty difficult. And just through law school,
- 9:53which was during my diagnosis, I just kept. deteriorating
- 9:58but kind of like fighting that so that I try
- 10:00to fix it with like my diet and I went on like
- 10:05an anti -inflammatory diet and I tried the low
- 10:09FODMAP diet and now I'm really working but then
- 10:15I went into like the season where I had less
- 10:20flare -ups and I started to improve a bit and
- 10:23I remember my very last flare I had started around
- 10:29Christmas. I had this milkshake and I remember
- 10:31the milkshake just like I had the worst stomach
- 10:35cramps from it. And I remember just like literally
- 10:38crying on the toilet. It was so painful and horrible.
- 10:42And then it never went back to normal. So then,
- 10:46I mean, I think I ended up like pooping in my
- 10:52pants. four times in several months when I was
- 10:56out in public, which was horrible. And then I
- 11:00was about to graduate law school and I was in
- 11:04the worst flare up of my life. It was so painful
- 11:10that I became like bedridden. And right before
- 11:16graduation, I was like, I need to get through
- 11:19graduation. Like, can I please have steroids?
- 11:21So I got steroids that day and I started a prednisone.
- 11:24So then actually the night I graduated, we went
- 11:28and had this like amazing pasta dinner and I
- 11:30came home and I was in so much pain that I was
- 11:33like screaming and crying on my couch and in
- 11:36the bathroom. So eventually I went to the hospital
- 11:41because I couldn't take it anymore. Like I couldn't
- 11:44eat, I couldn't drink. So that was the first
- 11:48of my admissions and that was over in may um
- 11:53and so i was there for a week and they started
- 11:56me on remicade and so i was on remicade and iv
- 12:02steroids and i started to improve so they sent
- 12:06me home and then within two days i was in a ton
- 12:10of pain arrived at the er like screaming and
- 12:14like begging for pain medicine because I was
- 12:17in so much pain so then I was admitted again
- 12:21and they did an endoscopy and a colonoscopy and
- 12:25then the next day I was already discharged because
- 12:29I improved pretty quick that time so then I was
- 12:34within a week, readmitted again, but at a different
- 12:37hospital where my GI had privileges. So I thought,
- 12:41maybe I'll try here because I really trust my
- 12:43GI. And if his team's able to treat me, maybe
- 12:47it'll be a better outcome. So within the first
- 12:53two days that I was admitted there, the GI told
- 12:58me that I needed to talk to the surgeon, which
- 13:01was absolutely terrifying. I didn't, know what
- 13:05surgery for ulcerative colitis would even be.
- 13:08I was on a ton of steroids and then they did
- 13:13another colonoscopy and my intestine looked terrifying
- 13:18looking. Like it was so ulcerated and so far
- 13:23away from what a normal colon looks like. It
- 13:27looked like it was like, it was just bright red
- 13:29with like a spider webs looking all through it.
- 13:33It was terrifying, like Wagyu beef, basically.
- 13:38It's not supposed to look like that. He told
- 13:45me it was time to talk to the surgeon. She actually
- 13:50gave me a really positive perspective on what
- 13:54life with an ileostomy would be, about how I
- 13:58would be able to do anything. My life could look
- 14:02exactly the same as it does now. And obviously
- 14:05some people have difficulty with the surgery
- 14:09and their bodies don't react well. And you're
- 14:12going to have just a range of like side effects.
- 14:16And so she told me all about those. And I don't
- 14:20think I spoke at all that entire first meeting
- 14:25with her because I knew if I spoke, I was going
- 14:27to start crying. I was just... I just, I couldn't
- 14:31speak because I didn't want to cry in front of
- 14:34someone I just met. And it was just so much and
- 14:38so difficult. But I was admitted for 12 days,
- 14:42that admission. And she came, I think, eight
- 14:46or nine of those days. And we would meet almost
- 14:49every day and talk about my questions about the
- 14:53surgery. That was extremely helpful. I was able
- 14:58to like build this really wonderful bond with
- 15:01the colorectal surgeon. But I ended up leaving
- 15:05the hospital that time because once again, I
- 15:08improved. And so I was like, wow, it was amazing
- 15:12meeting this doctor, but I hope I never see her
- 15:14again. And then within two days, I had... it's
- 15:22like 104 fever I couldn't stand with like without
- 15:26almost fainting and the pain was so bad I remember
- 15:30I called my mom and said that we need to get
- 15:34in contact with the surgeon because I wanted
- 15:36to rip out my colon myself so because I was I
- 15:42couldn't even drink water and my heart rate was
- 15:44so high and had a fever so I went back to the
- 15:48hospital under the advisement of my GI and he
- 15:51said there's no other options. We need to get
- 15:55you back to the hospital and you need to have
- 15:58surgery. So then I went back to the hospital
- 16:01and I was too unstable to operate on immediately.
- 16:05So I got a PICC line with the TPN nutrition and
- 16:11I was on that for a few days to help me like
- 16:14regain some strength since I hadn't ate pretty
- 16:18much in weeks because Every time I'd talk to
- 16:21the doctor and I was hospitalized, they'd put
- 16:24me on NPO. So I probably only ate a few times
- 16:28within a month. So I was back in the hospital
- 16:31and we're like planning on a surgery date and
- 16:34just getting all my vitals under control. And
- 16:38then finally on July 5th, 2024, I got my ostomy.
- 16:45And I remember I was very excited because I'd
- 16:50I just remember I was going to wake up and be
- 16:53pain -free, which is not exactly what happens
- 16:55after abdominal surgery, but you don't have ulcerative
- 16:59colitis pain. So there's, you know, win some,
- 17:02lose some there. Wow. So you prefaced your answer
- 17:06by saying it was quite the journey. So yeah,
- 17:08it definitely sounded like quite the journey.
- 17:11We always say, let's not dwell on the past, you
- 17:14know, life moves on. let's accept the past as
- 17:18it is but as humans we we cannot help but sometimes
- 17:21being pulled back by regrets right or or nostalgia
- 17:24in this case you know i i want to focus more
- 17:27on regrets and you looking back now do you think
- 17:32that potentially today you could still have a
- 17:34colon or relatively healthy colon had you not
- 17:38stopped medication on your own accord i thought
- 17:41about that a lot when right before surgery and
- 17:47the months after surgery. And I'm not sure. I
- 17:54think it is definitely possible I wouldn't have
- 18:00needed an ostomy because maybe I could have stayed
- 18:03in remission and my colon gotten healthier because
- 18:07I know that does happen for many people that
- 18:09they're able to manage well with medications.
- 18:14I thought about that a lot and then I realized,
- 18:19well, I can't really go back. And I hated, I
- 18:24think what made me feel better is I hated the
- 18:26pills and managing an ostomy is easier than managing
- 18:31those pills was, at least my ostomy. So I think
- 18:36that's how it made me feel a little bit better
- 18:38since I can't go back is realizing I'd rather
- 18:41change a bag than... Take six giant pills. I
- 18:45think for me, I no longer feel regret. I definitely
- 18:48felt a lot of regret in the beginning because
- 18:51I think, at least for me, the news of meeting
- 18:58an ostomy and then relearning how to do life
- 19:03in the beginning was very difficult, just mentally.
- 19:07It's a huge life change. Your body completely
- 19:11changes. It's not the body you've always been
- 19:14seeing. A stoma looks a little scary at first
- 19:17until you're used to it because your brain's
- 19:20not used to being able to see an intestine. So
- 19:24that's a terrifying thing to see. So I think
- 19:28with all those things, I did feel a lot of regret
- 19:30because I wanted my body to be how it was before.
- 19:37I think after a while, I just really grown to
- 19:40love my ostomy and my life with my ostomy. And
- 19:43I've never in my life been this healthy. I'm
- 19:49able to be so active because I don't have the
- 19:52fatigue from ulcerative colitis. I'm never worried
- 19:55that I'm going to like poop my pants while doing
- 19:58something. I'm not in pain ever. It's insane
- 20:03to have gone. over a year, like a year and a
- 20:06half almost now without any intestinal pain,
- 20:10that is just mind blowing for me. I haven't experienced
- 20:13that since I can't remember much of how my stomach
- 20:17felt before 15. So I just, what I do remember
- 20:21is the many hours I sat on the toilet and in
- 20:24pain. So I think just now focusing more on my
- 20:29life with my ostomy helps a lot. And so I no
- 20:37longer feel regret. But I definitely did in the
- 20:40beginning when I was just working through all
- 20:43the feelings with getting an ostomy. Sure. Absolutely.
- 20:47Absolutely. So you've grown as a person and you've
- 20:50grown to accept your fate in a sense. You touched
- 20:54on it. So we're right at the present now. You're
- 20:58living with an ostomy. There's a misconception
- 21:00sometimes that having surgery is a cure, right?
- 21:05And a lot of people with ostomies, they still
- 21:07occasionally experience symptoms. I mean, sometimes
- 21:10more with Crohn's than with colitis potentially.
- 21:12Tell us now, how are you feeling today? Do you
- 21:15have any challenges in terms of just purely medically?
- 21:18Because I mean, living with a stomach can present
- 21:20its own little challenges here and there. But
- 21:22so just medically, physically, what's your life
- 21:25like right now post -surgery? So medically, I
- 21:30do not have any problems currently. Right after
- 21:34surgery, I did have a lot of complications, which
- 21:38we can, we can touch on that next. But present
- 21:42tense, I don't have any, any issues. I mean,
- 21:48I have no recurrence of my ulcerative colitis.
- 21:54I have no other The extra intestinal manifestations,
- 22:00I haven't personally dealt with any of those.
- 22:03For me, it's just given me a lot of physical
- 22:08strength and stamina. So, like, tomorrow I'm
- 22:11actually running a 10 -mile race. I wasn't able
- 22:14to run before getting an ostomy, and now I can
- 22:19run for 10 miles straight, which is really exciting
- 22:22for me. And other things, I'm able to hike long
- 22:28distances and do things that are very physically
- 22:33challenging without it being extremely taxing
- 22:37on my body. Before I got my ostomy, if I was
- 22:41even like had prolonged stress, like for even
- 22:46an exam, I would get like flu -like symptoms.
- 22:50And I used to call it like fake sick. So anytime
- 22:53I was stressed, I would get fake sick. And I
- 22:56haven't gotten fake sick in over a year. So I
- 23:01think, at least for me personally, it's only
- 23:05brought like positive physical health. So I'm
- 23:13correct to assess then that. having a surgery
- 23:18and living with an ostomy gave you your life
- 23:20back, right? Yeah. Yeah, it gave me a life I
- 23:24didn't know I could have. And so obviously the
- 23:29idea here is to break down the stigmas of fear
- 23:32surrounding surgeries. A lot of people who have
- 23:35not had surgeries yet, right, but may not have
- 23:38a choice moving forward. You did say you had
- 23:41some complications, and I want to talk to you
- 23:45about those because, you know, I think it's part
- 23:47of the journey. And again, this is not to scare
- 23:49other people, but it doesn't mean that it happens
- 23:51to everybody either, right? But yeah, take us
- 23:54a little bit through then how your journey evolved
- 23:57right after surgery, before you arrive at the
- 24:00present day where you actually feel really great.
- 24:02So I, right after surgery, I think within a week,
- 24:08I hadn't been discharged yet because I got an
- 24:12ileus, which is basically where part of your
- 24:17intestine is paralyzed. The gut motility stops.
- 24:20And so you're more prone to a blockage. So some
- 24:24food I had ate wasn't able to pass because my
- 24:28intestines were not moving. So I ended up with
- 24:32a blockage. And... They tried to irrigate it
- 24:38through the stoma. So they would stick like a
- 24:41catheter into the stoma, which doesn't hurt at
- 24:45all. There's like some slight pressure as if
- 24:47someone's pressing on your stomach, but it's
- 24:50not painful. And they would put water into it
- 24:55and then pull the water back out to try to pull
- 24:59the blockage. That was able to relieve some of
- 25:04the pressure for me. I would get that done like
- 25:06twice a day, but it was not clearing the blockage
- 25:11at all. And then I think it was about seven days
- 25:17post -surgery, I spiked a fever and my heart
- 25:23rate was extremely high. I think it was like
- 25:27while I was trying to sleep, it was at 150. which
- 25:30it should not be at 150 when you're at complete
- 25:32rest. So one of the nurses called a rapid code
- 25:37and that was quite terrifying because there was
- 25:41like 30 people in my room in the span of a minute
- 25:44all of a sudden. And then I think I got a CT
- 25:51scan that showed my bowel had perforated. where
- 25:55the blockage was, which is what caused the heart
- 25:59rate and fever. So the next day I had a resection
- 26:04of that part of my intestine, which luckily it
- 26:08was a part of my intestine closest to my stoma.
- 26:11So they didn't have to reconnect any bowel. They
- 26:15ended up just, I don't know how to describe it,
- 26:18but I guess pulling the stoma out with that part
- 26:21of the intestine and then making a new stoma.
- 26:24So then after that, I was doing really well.
- 26:27I think a week or two after that, I went home.
- 26:33And then within 24 hours, I spiked a really high
- 26:40heart rate again and had, I think, 103 fever.
- 26:45And that was really confusing because I had been
- 26:48doing really well for days. But all of a sudden...
- 26:52I was not good. And then I had to take an ambulance
- 26:57to the hospital because I couldn't stand up.
- 27:00If I tried to stand, I felt like I was going
- 27:02to faint. And I think I would have if I tried
- 27:06to stand for too long. So I didn't feel safe,
- 27:09my family taking me to the hospital. So we took
- 27:13an ambulance. And due to my symptoms, they said
- 27:17I had severe sepsis, which I'm still not sure
- 27:21if they ruled that out or not because my chart
- 27:25is all over the place. So I potentially had severe
- 27:29sepsis and due to my symptoms and the CT scan
- 27:37that had said suddenly all of my intestines were
- 27:42inflamed. that the CT technician thought I had
- 27:50Crohn's and I've never had a history of Crohn's,
- 27:52but because everything that was left was inflamed,
- 27:56my surgeon said we needed to immediately go into
- 28:00surgery to just see what's going on. So the original
- 28:05plan was to just pop a camera in there and see
- 28:09what's going on. And so it was going to be just
- 28:12a laparoscopic exploratory surgery, but they
- 28:17couldn't fit the camera in my abdomen because
- 28:20the pressure was so high that I ended up with
- 28:25a full laparotomy, which is like, now it's like
- 28:29a six inch scar, not maybe longer, but they opened
- 28:33me up. And as soon as I was open, they said my
- 28:37heart rate started to decrease. And based on
- 28:40those symptoms, it looked like abdominal compartment
- 28:43syndrome caused by post -colectomy panenteritis.
- 28:48And they found no cause. There was no cause whatsoever
- 28:59for this inflammation, even though they checked
- 29:02all of my intestines. So they ended up leaving
- 29:06me open. And put me on a ventilator in the ICU
- 29:10for a few days so that my abdomen could decompress.
- 29:15And then I had two more surgeries to slowly close
- 29:19up my abdomen after. So my second complication,
- 29:24I guess, was just a lot of inflammation and pressure
- 29:28that had built up in my abdomen. And they don't
- 29:31know why. There's only been a few cases of this.
- 29:35Although it was really scary and I think it sounds
- 29:38really scary for someone going into surgery,
- 29:42this is not something that happens often whatsoever.
- 29:46It was very rare and very confusing even for
- 29:50the doctors. But luckily they, you know, were
- 29:56able to figure out how to treat it. And other
- 30:00than needing to be on a ventilator for a few
- 30:02days, which I was awake and that was not fun.
- 30:05In the end, it ended up being okay. And I'm very
- 30:11thankful for the doctors I had. You paid quite
- 30:15a hefty price to get to where you are today,
- 30:19obviously, based on just listening to you. So
- 30:22now I'm really interested in hearing you explain
- 30:26to me how you stayed sane mentally throughout
- 30:30those surgeries, hospital stays. the complications
- 30:34and not just staying sane mentally, but how did
- 30:38you manage to hold on to hope that you would
- 30:41get better, that, you know, you would actually
- 30:43pull through and, well, walk again, right? Like,
- 30:48how did you deal with this? Where did you get
- 30:50the strength from? So in my surgeries before
- 30:53the final set of them were, I needed to be on
- 30:57a ventilator in the ICU. I had a lot of hope.
- 31:02And I just like, it never crossed my mind that
- 31:08I wouldn't be okay. And I think I was just so
- 31:10excited for what my new life was going to be.
- 31:14And there's a lot of free time when you're sitting
- 31:18in the hospital. And so I kind of just planned
- 31:21out activities I was going to do when I was better.
- 31:24I mean, I had planned like I wanted to dye my
- 31:26hair even, like little things, like go to a park
- 31:29with my friends. spend time with my dog again
- 31:32because I couldn't see my dog when I was in the
- 31:34hospital. So I just kept making plans for after,
- 31:39even though I ended up having to cancel all of
- 31:41those plans because I didn't realize how long
- 31:43it would take to recover from surgery. But it
- 31:46did help me a lot to continue to make all of
- 31:49these plans. But even during that time, it was
- 31:53still really hard because No matter how often
- 31:57your family and friends visit you, you're so
- 32:00isolated because you're stuck in the hospital.
- 32:04And it's so hard to just be stuck and have basically
- 32:14nothing to do until someone comes and visits
- 32:17you again. And so that would really get to me
- 32:20and all of the days kind of run together. And
- 32:23somehow they eventually start going very quickly.
- 32:27So I woke up, ate breakfast, and then it somehow
- 32:30felt like it's already 4 p .m. And I'm like,
- 32:33well, I haven't gotten to do anything today.
- 32:35But you can't do anything. So when it's three
- 32:39months of that, it really gets into your head.
- 32:42But then... After the last three surgeries and
- 32:47after I had been on a ventilator, I honestly
- 32:52did lose all of the strength I had to continue
- 32:56fighting. It was really scary for me to be on
- 33:01a ventilator. And after I was taken off, I was
- 33:04actually hallucinating for a few days. So anytime
- 33:08I closed my eyes, I... would like start to see
- 33:12like figures like even if I blinked for too long
- 33:15so then I stopped sleeping until they were able
- 33:19to give me like sedatives so then being like
- 33:22sleep deprived and like in a ton of pain I just
- 33:26kind of like lost all the strength and I was
- 33:31like crying all the time I was I was honestly
- 33:34really struggling so I think I remember like
- 33:37thinking back to then All my friends were texting
- 33:40me that I'm so strong. And I just remember thinking,
- 33:46but, like, I'm not. Like, at that point, it felt
- 33:49like my doctors were really strong. Like, they
- 33:51were the ones fighting. I was just there. And
- 33:55they kept fighting for me. So I am very thankful
- 34:02for... Also my family and friends who continued
- 34:06to check on me and support me during that time
- 34:09because it felt like it was my medical team and
- 34:13my support system who were the ones who were
- 34:15strong and who were fighting for me when I no
- 34:18longer could. And yet you did in your own way
- 34:21because I always say those around us, they...
- 34:25Help us with the strength, but you yourself,
- 34:27your mental capacity, your body, you're certainly
- 34:32contributing, right? Yeah. Now, symptoms at 15,
- 34:37diagnosis at 23, surgery, ostomy today. You were
- 34:42very young, so you went through all of this while
- 34:45you're growing up to a crucial stage in your
- 34:47life, right? Teenage years and then becoming
- 34:49an adult. Looking back. at this quite extensive,
- 34:55quite hard journey, how has your IBD changed
- 35:00you as a person, you think? It's given me a lot
- 35:04of perspective on life. And I think also like
- 35:10resilience, just in like my daily life things,
- 35:14because nothing I go through feels as bad as
- 35:19what... IBD has put me through so I just feel
- 35:22like I'm able to get through those things because
- 35:25I've already been through worse and I think it's
- 35:29also on the funny side it's giving me a great
- 35:31sense of humor I think it's like just really
- 35:35been able allowed well that's not allowed me
- 35:39but made me be very comfortable with myself because
- 35:43the choices were either be very uncomfortable
- 35:45with myself or to be extremely comfortable with
- 35:51myself. And my brain ended up choosing the latter.
- 35:56So I am the friend who everyone comes to to talk
- 36:01about their poop. So my friends who do not have
- 36:05IBD, don't have any kind of stomach problems,
- 36:09they will tell me about when they've had a weird
- 36:11poop, when their stomach hurts, just about poop
- 36:15in general. So I just make people feel very comfortable
- 36:19about it. And so I get the extremely TMI conversations
- 36:24with my friends. And I think I do appreciate
- 36:29that it's made people feel comfortable with vulnerable
- 36:33topics with me. But I guess on the negative side,
- 36:37it has, for like many years, it made body image
- 36:42very difficult. Because... I always wanted to
- 36:48be like strong in the gym and to like gain weight.
- 36:52And then every time I would have a flare up,
- 36:56I'd lose all of the strength and I would get
- 36:59really thin. And for some reason, my brain decided
- 37:07to think that when I lost weight, I was no longer
- 37:10lovable. So then it just felt... Like I was in
- 37:15this cycle of like trying so hard to like feel
- 37:22like my body was like physically like pretty
- 37:29enough for to be lovable. But then my body would
- 37:33betray me and I would lose all that weight and
- 37:38then no longer feel lovable again. And then I'd
- 37:40feel like I would need to hide. And I think there's
- 37:44like, you know, obviously there is so much of,
- 37:50you know, people want to lose weight and like
- 37:54being thin isn't seen as a bad thing. But then
- 37:56I think when you're sickly thin, it's a little
- 37:59bit different. And I was always looking sickly
- 38:03thin where I have friends who Well, not friends,
- 38:09but people in school who tell me to eat a burger
- 38:11and my little brother as a joke would call me
- 38:13like Skeletor, which I love him and that's fine.
- 38:16I think just little siblings bully you, but stuff
- 38:20like that. And then I remember I would have like
- 38:23previous boyfriends when I was younger who would
- 38:25tell me I should just like gain weight and like
- 38:27have curves like the other girls. But then I
- 38:29would get sick and lose all of my weight and
- 38:33then I couldn't. So I was really mad at my body.
- 38:38for a long time because I felt like it was keeping
- 38:41me from being lovable. On your Instagram feed,
- 38:46you once made a post, I think not too long ago,
- 38:49where you described a few statements. And if
- 38:56you're okay with it, I'm going to read you about
- 38:57four of these. And I would like to get a very
- 39:00brief perspective because it's one thing for
- 39:03us to write something, but then I think it's
- 39:05a different thing of... hearing basically what
- 39:07we once wrote, right? Coming back to us when
- 39:10somebody else read it. So I'm going to read each
- 39:12one, but we're going to do it one by one. And
- 39:14you just give me sort of like your quick short
- 39:16insight into what you feel and how you feel about
- 39:19those today. All right? Okay. The first one you
- 39:24wrote, having a leostomy doesn't stop me from
- 39:27anything. And I feel like that one is still...
- 39:35true for me. I can't think of any time after
- 39:42I recovered from surgery, because recovering
- 39:44from surgery is something completely on its own,
- 39:47but there hasn't been anything it's stopped me
- 39:52from doing. I'm actually able to do so much more
- 39:57than I was able to before. I mean, with activities,
- 40:03with work, making new friends, intimacy, there's
- 40:08been nothing it's stopped me personally from
- 40:11being able to do. That's great. The second one,
- 40:15you talked about it at great length. And I think
- 40:18what you said is great. So I'm going to read
- 40:20it, but no need to comment. We can skip because
- 40:22you mentioned it. I'm still lovable. You definitely
- 40:25talked about that one. So let's get to the next
- 40:27one. I am not the sick friend. I wrote that one
- 40:32because before surgery, I was so scared of being
- 40:39the sick friend. I didn't want, when I was at
- 40:44a gathering of people, to be the person that
- 40:51they were like, oh, we can't do things because
- 40:54of Sarah. Or like, Sarah is a problem. Because
- 40:59she's disabled, which is a horrible way of thinking.
- 41:02But I was scared. I was, I can't control the
- 41:05way people think. And this is the way some people
- 41:08do think. So I was so scared that people weren't
- 41:12going to want to be around me because I was going
- 41:14to be the sick friend. And I realized before
- 41:21surgery that one, I already was the sick friend.
- 41:28I mean, I was always needing to use the bathroom.
- 41:30I was always sick because of IBD, even if it
- 41:33was like fake sick. And so I always had to cancel
- 41:38plans because I wasn't feeling good. So my therapist
- 41:42was the one who told me, but Sarah, you already
- 41:45are the sick friend. And that call out kind of
- 41:49made me feel a little better because I realized
- 41:52everyone in my life does still love me, even
- 41:58though I have always canceled plans. I've always
- 42:03needed accommodations for our hangouts or to
- 42:05find the nearest bathroom. Like, our activities
- 42:09would be suddenly stopped because we need to
- 42:13emergently find a restroom or, like, I need to
- 42:16go to the restroom in someone's front lawn, which
- 42:18has happened multiple times. So, even though
- 42:23all of... that has happened. I've never lost
- 42:26a friend from it. And it's, for me, it's only
- 42:31created funny stories with my friends or like
- 42:33bonded us. So I think realizing like, even though
- 42:39I was the sick friend, it didn't change the way
- 42:44people loved me. And so I think that statement
- 42:48is that Even if I am the sick friend, no one
- 42:56sees me as the sick friend. Like that's not my
- 42:59identity to my friends. I am just their friend.
- 43:04Last one, you wrote, my body is not ruined. I
- 43:10was also really worried about that one before
- 43:12surgery. I, as someone who before surgery was
- 43:18in a really toxic cycle with my body and never
- 43:21happy with my body. I just thought that this
- 43:27was going to make me so ugly and it was going
- 43:30to ruin my body and I was never going to look
- 43:33pretty again. And then I will, before surgery,
- 43:42I was also talking to my therapist about it and
- 43:44we were talking about how all of the different
- 43:48things in life. how your body will change. So
- 43:51as I get older and have different experiences,
- 43:54have kids, get injured at some point, my body
- 43:58is going to constantly be changing. And that
- 44:04doesn't mean it's becoming ruined. And I think
- 44:09now when I look at my body, I don't view it negatively
- 44:15ever. I... I like my laparotomy scar. Now I think
- 44:21it looks cool because now when I'm in the gym,
- 44:24I don't have abs, but I have a really cool scar
- 44:28when I'm in a sports bra. And I think that looks
- 44:32cool. And now when I look at my bag or I have
- 44:36the top of my bag out when I'm wearing certain
- 44:39pants, I don't ever look in the mirror and think,
- 44:44oh, my body's ruined now. kind of view it almost
- 44:50like an accessory like to me i think it makes
- 44:53my body look cool and it's different and but
- 44:57not in a bad way so most of these statements
- 45:03all these statements still feel true to you now
- 45:06which is really really great i think what you
- 45:09just said about your body and your ostomy and
- 45:13what it looks like today. I think that's a really
- 45:15positive and a hopeful message. And of course,
- 45:18we want to always end on a hopeful note. But
- 45:20before we end, before we actually also look into
- 45:22the future, I want to travel back in time with
- 45:25you one last time. And I want you to tell me,
- 45:29and you can pick either one, either pick diagnosis
- 45:33day, the official diagnosis when you were 23,
- 45:36or you can pick the 15 -year -old you when the
- 45:40symptoms started. So pick one of the two and
- 45:42then tell me if you could speak to yourself at
- 45:4615 or at 23, what would you say? I think I'd
- 45:52pick the 15 year old me. And I would want to
- 45:58tell her that she's going to go through a lot,
- 46:02but she's also going to learn a lot through it.
- 46:05And even though there's going to be a lot of
- 46:07ups and downs. It's really going to be a journey
- 46:13and there's so much that's going to come from
- 46:19it. So everything she will go through has a purpose
- 46:24and will help her become the best version of
- 46:29herself that she'll reach later on. Sound advice.
- 46:32I like the way you put that. So now that we've
- 46:36looked in the past one more time, let's look
- 46:37into the future. This is a tough one to answer,
- 46:41but everybody sort of has at least a feeling
- 46:43about this one. And that's why I like to keep
- 46:45asking it. And that is, do you think we will
- 46:49see a cure to IBD in our lifetime? I don't. There
- 46:55are so many different causes of IBD, it seems.
- 47:00And I think maybe we'll be able to cure some
- 47:06of them by figuring out what the root of it is.
- 47:09But I don't think there'll ever be a one -size
- 47:12-fits -all cure. So I'm honestly not sure. I
- 47:18have a feeling that no, only because IBD is so
- 47:24different for so many people and can be caused
- 47:28by so many things. But I do think like with research,
- 47:32maybe some of the reasons that IBD... comes about
- 47:38maybe they'll be able to find a cure for those
- 47:40that's a good way to put it so sarah your story
- 47:46is definitely one of resilience but also a very
- 47:50deep introspection so i want to thank you so
- 47:53much for taking the time today to share your
- 47:55journey a lot of inspiration to find in there
- 47:58and i'm very happy that you are at a stage now
- 48:02where you were able to reclaim your life and
- 48:05I wish you nothing but the best moving forward.
- 48:07And thank you again for being with us today.
- 48:10Thank you. And thank you for letting me talk
- 48:13shit with you. That's it for today's episode
- 48:15of Colitis Unfiltered. I'm Frank Klebring. And
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