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- 0:07Now broadcasting from the Next Gen. conservative studio in
- 0:12sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics,
- 0:16current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield Report
- 0:21with Sam Whitfield. Alrighty.
- 0:32Welcome to the Welcome to the show.
- 0:36Ladies and gentlemen and I hope everyone is doing well tonight.
- 0:43We have, I don't know, I think we have a I think we may have a
- 0:47surprised guest. Hello on the on the show.
- 0:54Very good to be on the show. I am Vivek Ramashwami.
- 0:59Now people are always saying buy back.
- 1:03There's lizard people controlling the world.
- 1:06Now you or I might say that's a little odd, that's a little odd
- 1:10of a thing to say, but what is the underlying wisdom there?
- 1:14What is the intuition at play? You know, people are upset and
- 1:19they feel like their leaders are cold, calculated and they feel
- 1:24like they probably could eat people.
- 1:29And I don't want to be partisan. And that's why I'm running for
- 1:33president. Because we need leadership in
- 1:37this country that don't feel like a bunch of reptilian
- 1:40pedophile shapeshifters luring children into caves in the
- 1:45mouth. Right, right.
- 1:48Right, well. Like, even if they're, this is
- 1:52true even if they're not. It feels like they are, you know
- 1:57what I'm saying? One way you can't blame one for
- 1:59intuiting that our leaders could be a bunch of reptilian
- 2:05shapeshifters drinking human blood in secret government
- 2:08bases, Right. OK.
- 2:12No, yeah, that that's, I mean, that's how a lot of people have
- 2:15been feeling for several years now.
- 2:18More and more, all the time. As and like.
- 2:21As like a guy that doesn't feel like it's necessarily that bad.
- 2:25I try and tell them it's not that bad, but it feels that way.
- 2:30I got to admit, it's a guy that's like, it's not that bad,
- 2:34but feels like it's that bad. No, but I mean to be real.
- 2:39Like Vivec really is our guy. You know, Max and I, we both, I
- 2:44think, well, I don't want to speak for Max, but I think that
- 2:47him and I come from a different or the same path, which is
- 2:50basically like libertarianism. To conservatism via Trumpism.
- 2:56Yeah, right. Well, the way I've I see, I
- 3:02like, I like Vivek too. It evidently, evidently Trump
- 3:05does as well. The thing with the thing with
- 3:07Vivek that I like is that Vivek is actually a lot like Trump,
- 3:13but without the, I guess, rough edges.
- 3:20Interestingly enough, Vivek. Vivek is what I initially
- 3:24thought DeSantis was until Max pointed out some things that
- 3:29Ryan are on and I'm like, oh shit, yeah, that's that's not
- 3:34good. So.
- 3:36You're so right. It comes down to, I mean, you
- 3:39say that he doesn't have rough edges.
- 3:41I think that both Trump and Vivek have one thing in common,
- 3:45which is that, like they're willing to go into the lions
- 3:49den. They're willing to go into
- 3:51places that are not comfortable and come out alive, and they do
- 3:55so in different ways. They have different styles.
- 4:00Now Vivek style is to just use his superior intellect to take
- 4:05their hit, their hits against him and just like manipulate it
- 4:09and hit them back with something else.
- 4:11Did. You see him on the Don Lemon
- 4:16video. I mean, he's part of the reason
- 4:17why Don Lemon got fired. I yeah, I did well.
- 4:22I I watched him on, I watched him on the last episode of the
- 4:27All In podcast where he was like, I think I'm the only one
- 4:31here who watches that podcast. But he like in 90 minutes he
- 4:37completely like outlined his platform very like, succinctly,
- 4:42but also didn't really, you know and like.
- 4:47They weren't trying to like throw gotcha questions, but like
- 4:51he he basically said like, he basically, from what I could
- 4:57tell, pretty much reiterated like a lot of Trump's like
- 5:02agenda points but in his own like men are speaking.
- 5:09Well, but I could say this. I've kept quiet up till now
- 5:14because like, I got an interesting perspective being as
- 5:17I kind of know him. I've met him on many occasions
- 5:20at libertarian functions and conservative functions over the
- 5:23years. I wouldn't say we're, I wouldn't
- 5:25say we're best friends, but we've talked and he's given
- 5:28speeches that I've really enjoyed.
- 5:31Sure. In in, in situations that could
- 5:35be, you know, seen as, yeah, standing up.
- 5:38For example, the free speech event, I believe it was that he
- 5:44spoke at that they were like yelling Nazis and it's like you
- 5:47got this, like, you know, you got this idiot guy who who's the
- 5:53fucking keynote speaker, which wasn't him, but he was, he was
- 5:57there at that event. He he was there at a couple
- 6:00other like libertarian fundraisers and things and and
- 6:04functions. And so I've gotten to kind of
- 6:06know the guy and all I can say is he's really genuine like what
- 6:09he's saying now he hasn't really changed much well and and he's
- 6:14always nice to everybody. That's the thing you guys kind
- 6:16of hit on He's he's just perpetually nice and.
- 6:22I've never seen anybody say otherwise, like, as far as just
- 6:26a person, he's a good dude As far as.
- 6:28If I had him on the show I would ask him if he has read David
- 6:31Heights work, which I would. I would estimate he probably has
- 6:36being such like a research driven guy, it seems from the
- 6:40outside because when he is giving speeches or talking
- 6:44publicly, he seems to purposely hit upon moral foundations that
- 6:50lots of people have. But he avoids one in particular,
- 6:56which would be disloyalty, which is very high among
- 7:00conservatives. And the way he does that, the
- 7:04way he's able to run against Trump.
- 7:06But say good things about him, file lawsuits with the DOJ for
- 7:11injustice, which strategically makes sense.
- 7:13Look, if you're a candidate, a Republican candidate, they're
- 7:18going to do the same thing. That.
- 7:21They did to Trump. Here's the real thing is like,
- 7:30he's just a dude. If you're ever a threat to their
- 7:23power, yeah. Buyback would at least feel that
- 7:26he is and. His campaign staff has been
- 7:33built up over the course of this campaign he's running.
- 7:37This is why I don't have a problem with him running against
- 7:40Trump knowing the guy is, he's one of the few guys I ever vibed
- 7:43with it, most of these libertarian things.
- 7:45Because we were more on the Trump tip from the beginning, I
- 7:48came. The the exact opposite of
- 7:50Schmooly just because I'm older. I came in from the Reform party
- 7:54movement which at the time when I was graduating high school
- 7:57seemed like it had more potential and was more in line
- 8:01with my shit. And yes, Trump was a big part of
- 8:03that, but it fell apart when Trump left and so I found myself
- 8:07like if you wanted into like outside of red or blue you want
- 8:12you went with libertarian. So and he's kind of that too.
- 8:15That's why he was there, because he's more of a traditional.
- 8:19Libertarian leaning or or libertarian conservative like a,
- 8:22like a minarchist. And he's always been brave like
- 8:26this and he's running for president because he believes in
- 8:28what he's saying not against anybody.
- 8:30He's running for president. He's one of those guys.
- 8:34And if Trump, if it wasn't the Trump 2024, I would support him
- 8:39all the way. He's the only other candidate
- 8:41right now I would. He's he's the only candidate, at
- 8:45least that I've heard. He he actually made a point in
- 8:51this on the All End podcast when I listen to him.
- 8:54But again, I had to say that I'm biased when I say that to.
- 8:57Be fair. Well, he well, to be fair
- 9:00though, Max, he he he is the only candidate I've heard so far
- 9:06that basically has said from the outset that all of these charges
- 9:12against Trump are politically motivated.
- 9:17And that they're bullshit. And he would.
- 9:20And he would part the. Exact the exact thing I
- 9:23criticized De Santis for, right? Not coming.
- 9:25When they indicted him before, I was like, what?
- 9:27Where's this statement at all? He didn't say anything.
- 9:30Where's Ron de Santis on The Breakfast Club?
- 9:35Where's Ron DeSantis on CNN? Getting Don Lemon fired.
- 9:38Where's Ron DeSantis? Like, out there on the David
- 9:42Pakman Show and David's coming at him with these gotcha
- 9:46questions and try and start beef with him and other candidates
- 9:49and he's able to, in real time, flip it back on him and make
- 9:53David Pakman go on the defensive.
- 9:55Where is it? I don't see it.
- 9:57Yeah. I want to.
- 9:59I want to go back or second and highlight The Breakfast Club is
- 10:02dangerous territory. For a conservative candidate of
- 10:05any kind, let alone that, OK, maybe he had a better skin color
- 10:09for their preference, right? But other than that?
- 10:12Like that's brave for a Republican candidate for office
- 10:16to go on The Breakfast Club at all.
- 10:18Because you. That's the new weighted that he
- 10:21would say the N word in private. Yeah.
- 10:24They like they they went hard after him.
- 10:26He's not scared of that. He's not scared to go into the
- 10:30uncomfortable part and that's the part that you can admire as
- 10:34a as a man. Yeah, well, I I do want to point
- 10:38out too though in regards to the to The Breakfast Club.
- 10:42The Breakfast Club, to their credit, at least, had Rush
- 10:45Limbaugh on. Like they will.
- 10:49They'll have a conservative on, but you got to have balls of
- 10:53steel. Oh yeah.
- 10:54Shmuley's right. You're not going to see Ron
- 10:56DeSantis do that. It's never going to happen.
- 11:00Never. Well, well, Shmuley is asking
- 11:05where is where is DeSantis On all of these podcasts.
- 11:09My bigger the bigger question is where is Ron DeSantis, period.
- 11:14Not Florida. Not.
- 11:17Yeah, not here. Not.
- 11:18Not at the governor's. Mentioned, you know, Lieutenant
- 11:23Governor Janet Nunez is doing a heck of a job right right now.
- 11:28Well, and I'm sick of the Desantisites.
- 11:30When he's running around running this campaign, these are people
- 11:33he hired. They're just grifting off of
- 11:35him. They're just trying to to
- 11:37maximize the most amount of money.
- 11:38They're borderline, if not overtly, breaking campaign
- 11:42finance laws by moving a state. Fundraising from a state
- 11:48campaign to a federal campaign. And we can't look past hiring a
- 11:53fucking groper who then retweets a Nazi meme with the Santis's
- 11:57face on it. That's the dumbest thing and
- 11:59I've ever heard in campaign history.
- 12:01And if this was, if this was any other year in any other primary,
- 12:06that would be enough to. Drop out now.
- 12:09I don't want to diminish his legacy in Florida with some of
- 12:13the stuff that he's done. However, I criticize his anti
- 12:16free speech bill and it is important to note that when
- 12:20comparing the legacies of Donald Trump as President and Ron De
- 12:24Santis as governor, you need to consider that the state
- 12:27legislator was overwhelmingly conservative the entire time
- 12:32that Ron De Santis was governor, whereas Donald Trump only had a
- 12:36majority for a very short period of his presidency.
- 12:43And they were entirely focused on the healthcare bill that they
- 12:46never fucking manifested by the. Way now, when they tried to
- 12:50roadblock him on the border wall, what did Donald Trump do?
- 12:53He sued. Right.
- 12:57How many examples do we? Have he?
- 12:58He went through every legal process and sometimes it was
- 13:01like, hey, here's the thing from 1862 that we could do.
- 13:07Yeah. Like.
- 13:09He tried. That's The thing is he tried as
- 13:11much as a person being obstructed could.
- 13:14And yeah, he did pick bad people.
- 13:16And that's why I think Trump's revenge is going to be pure of
- 13:21him and and I don't think it's going to be tainted.
- 13:24And yeah, I think Ramaswamy makes a very fine consideration
- 13:29for a VP candidate and I think the debate, he's probably going
- 13:34to mop the floor with them. Yeah, I also.
- 13:38I also want to say Speaking of, Speaking of if.
- 13:42They give him. If they give him proper time,
- 13:45he'll mop the floor with them. Speaking of VP and whatnot, I do
- 13:49want to say a big fuck you to Mike Pence.
- 13:55You know, long time, long time coming, but still OK.
- 14:00So people have some people are asking say.
- 14:03Hey, that that's not his concern.
- 14:06Are yeah. Well, good 1.
- 14:12Let Mike let them eat cake. Pence over here.
- 14:15Well, OK, so so you know, people were like, Sam, are you going to
- 14:22talk about the indictment on the show?
- 14:25I asked these two before we went live and The thing is do.
- 14:31Do we Roid? You do We really need to talk at
- 14:33this indictment. It's.
- 14:35Yeah, I I think, I think we should.
- 14:37Like, I don't think Ray Ray did it.
- 14:39And I think it's ridiculous that they're accusing him of doing
- 14:42it. Yup.
- 14:44Right, right. Free Ray.
- 14:47Ray. Hashtag.
- 14:49Free Ray Ray. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
- 14:51This indictment is ridiculous. Like, yeah, yeah, he sold drugs
- 14:56in the past, you know, but like. That doesn't mean that he sold
- 15:00drugs this time. Look, I know they found the
- 15:02cocaine in his house, right? But that don't mean it was his
- 15:07cocaine. Yeah.
- 15:12Are they charging Joe Biden for cocaine at his house?
- 15:15No. No, no, they found a serious yo.
- 15:21They found cocaine at Joe Biden's house and nobody got
- 15:24arrested. What the fuck is going on,
- 15:27America? Yeah.
- 15:28They did. They arrest Mitch McConnell when
- 15:30they found cocaine on his boat. If law enforcement officials
- 15:33found cocaine at your house, you would go to jail.
- 15:37I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
- 15:41Oh yeah, Well, no. What's What's not?
- 15:45I mean they all. Like law enforcement if let's,
- 15:48let's, let's imagine it's just a guy and he's not the president
- 15:53at his house. His name's Joe Biden.
- 15:55They found a big old bag of cocaine and nobody got arrested
- 16:00at all. And they're like, we don't know
- 16:02who could possibly have put this cocaine there.
- 16:04It must be nobody. Well, well.
- 16:09You know what? But they have cameras
- 16:23everywhere. I think it probably was
- 16:11actually, though I think it was probably actually one of the
- 16:14fucking officers there. Which makes them, whoever it is,
- 16:18it makes the Secret Service look like.
- 16:24They know who goes in and out. You have to sign in, You take
- 16:27your ID, all this shit. They know there's a short list
- 16:31of people who could have left that bag of cocaine at the White
- 16:35House. Well, Max.
- 16:39That's. Like what I mean by the
- 16:41degradation of our fucking institutions.
- 16:43Like, the Secret Service is so incompetent you could just,
- 16:46like, do blow on Joe Biden's desk and nobody fucking knows
- 16:51who did it. To to be fair, Max, the Secret
- 16:55Service has had to spend, like, an exorbitant amount of
- 16:59resources just keeping track of Joe Biden so that he doesn't,
- 17:04you know, like, fall down a flight of stairs again or
- 17:09something. Well, he he likes falling up.
- 17:12They had to give him the short staircase.
- 17:13I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, Joe, Joe Biden falls.
- 17:21Joe Biden at this point follows more than Morpheus and I
- 17:25combined. 2 But. No, about the indictment, I said
- 17:31this was coming from the beginning, right?
- 17:33I said that they are trying to make a connection and get those
- 17:36convictions on Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and things like
- 17:40that where they they got them on sedition charges and they found
- 17:44a jury willing to convict and that builds a case towards
- 17:48insurrection. And then Trump is directly
- 17:50involved. So we're going to charge him.
- 17:52This was the big this was the end game all along.
- 17:56But the an indictment doesn't mean anything.
- 17:58He's been indicted all these times.
- 18:00Yeah, sure. But the old saying goes, and
- 18:03it's true, you could ignite a ham sandwich.
- 18:05They have, They've actually indicted ham sandwiches before
- 18:09because that's like an indictment is a grand jury looks
- 18:13at the evidence and they're like, are they, is there
- 18:15probable cause to take this to the next level?
- 18:18And if the answer is yes, then it can go to the next level and
- 18:23then they try and pressure you into taking a deal.
- 18:25But Trump's not going to take any deal.
- 18:27He already said he'll run from a prison cell.
- 18:29The thing that is Steve Turley actually brought this up.
- 18:34He's a he's like a conservative YouTube commentator guy.
- 18:39I mean this. The Senate already looked into
- 18:42this and basically said that Trump didn't.
- 18:44Right. You know.
- 18:46So that right, that right there and I mean I I did look at.
- 18:51That they're shooting at the wall to see if they can get one
- 18:54charge out of all fucking whatever, 80 to stay.
- 18:58It's funny how they all come out the same time in the year he's
- 19:01running for president. Oh, it's not a witch hunt.
- 19:03Give me a fucking break, dude. Everybody could see what's going
- 19:07on. It's a matter of the they they
- 19:10see what's going on, too. They know that this is a witch
- 19:12hunt. They're just OK with it because
- 19:14they hate Trump. Now.
- 19:17Constitution be damned, Law and order be damned, Orange man is
- 19:22bad. Now here's here's where I do get
- 19:25a bit miffed with the Republicans, and maybe this is
- 19:31just me, but I so I saw an X or Twitter or whatever we're
- 19:37calling it now under. I saw a lot of her up trending
- 19:41again on Twitter and Republicans.
- 19:45And I just have to say like, come on guys.
- 19:49Like, honestly, if if the here's what here's what irritates me.
- 19:54If the Republicans had any stones and had spent like 1/4 of
- 20:01the energy trying to indict Hillary that that the Dems have
- 20:09spent trying to indict Trump. Hillary would probably actually
- 20:13be in jail. She could have been fucking hung
- 20:18summarily if they really wanted to, but they didn't.
- 20:22And that's fine. I don't even care about that.
- 20:24That's the thing. But the But the other side's
- 20:27going to do malicious prosecution.
- 20:29They've always done that. If you think Nixon was a bad
- 20:32guy, then you haven't heard the whole story.
- 20:35You know what I'm saying? This is this is not new for the
- 20:38Democratic Party. They've always been the party of
- 20:40fucking. Oh well, the law doesn't favor
- 20:43us in election time. Well, we need to change that.
- 20:48Yeah, they. Used to do it with robes on and
- 20:52burning crosses on people's lawn.
- 20:54The law doesn't favor us because black people vote the other way,
- 20:57because they freed the slaves. Oh well, we got to intimidate
- 21:01them out of voting. It's always been this way with
- 21:03the Democrats. They've always been dirty.
- 21:07Yep. And absolutely dirty, yeah.
- 21:12But they promised poor people the world.
- 21:14And that's how that's been their ticket ever since LBJ had a
- 21:18famous quote that I won't say here on Rumble, but I mean, I I
- 21:23mean, I all say in 50 years I'll have all those N words voting
- 21:30Democrat. Yeah, except he didn't say N
- 21:33words. He used a hard R Well, yeah,
- 21:36yeah, he used the He used the hard R.
- 21:39Because that's what he thinks to you.
- 21:40If you're black a vote, you're a vote because they're going to
- 21:43promise you free shit. Well, in in Joe Joe Biden, this
- 21:48wasn't as extreme, but it's still.
- 21:52And that's why it's still bad. But he But he did say, if you
- 21:57vote for, if you vote for Romney, right?
- 22:02This was back in 2012. If you like, Mitt Romney wants
- 22:06to put Y'all back in chains or something like like that.
- 22:09Right now. I don't like Mitt Romney was the
- 22:13worst choice that we. Right.
- 22:16But this kind of brings up a thing I really wanted to talk
- 22:19about, because we only got to the first part last week was the
- 22:21Ice Cube interview, where he's talking about exactly this.
- 22:25You know, he talked about Obama. It was the same as everybody
- 22:29else. Like he was happy that a black
- 22:31guy won it. It it was like a symbolic
- 22:33victory. But then nothing changed, no.
- 22:37Because the Democrats in the in these inner city areas don't
- 22:40care. They really don't.
- 22:43They're they all for fucking show it, act well and to me,
- 22:49well. I was talking to one of my black
- 22:50friends I went to college with and he actually said that, like,
- 22:54within the last 10 years, he feels like race relations have
- 22:59gotten worse because that's all we talk about now.
- 23:04Which is exactly what Ice Cube said in the second interview
- 23:07race. Yeah, like the last thing, the
- 23:10last question Tucker asked as he's like we've been talking
- 23:12basically all day and you haven't mentioned race once.
- 23:15You've talked about economic status, poor, rich, the, you
- 23:19know, the wealthy, the haves and that.
- 23:21Thoughts. But you haven't brought up race
- 23:23at all and Ice Cube was like, I actually don't think it's that
- 23:26important to the conversation. He's like you do.
- 23:30It too much yeah be. Sick of it?
- 23:34Well, yeah, because the the economic, the economic disparity
- 23:39amongst people is far. Yeah, middle, middle class
- 23:44blacks is, you know, have a whole different experience in
- 23:47life, especially if they're raised that way.
- 23:50You know what I'm saying? Like because I live around a lot
- 23:53of them, You know, like, yeah, no.
- 23:56So listen, I I live in, I live, I live in South Florida, which,
- 24:03you know, the Dems like to make jokes that Florida is the South,
- 24:06so therefore it's races. But listen, I, you know, there
- 24:12are lots of there lots of middle class black people.
- 24:16They don't give a second. They don't give a second thought
- 24:19about race. Well, here's the thing, like the
- 24:23the affirmative action thing, if you if you were a spunky kind of
- 24:26underdog that you, maybe you weren't getting it, you could
- 24:30get in to a college with worse grades than the white kid,
- 24:34right? And if you if you have drive,
- 24:37you could take advantage of that.
- 24:38And that's actually a lot of the middle class black people I've
- 24:41worked with professionally over the years.
- 24:43You know what I'm saying? Because if you work in the tech
- 24:46field, you work with a lot of them.
- 24:47And yeah, they did get their opportunity from fucking
- 24:50affirmative action in the 1st place.
- 24:52They'll a lot of them will even tell you that they know they're
- 24:54like I'm the fucking diversity, that back in the day there was
- 24:57less diversity hires. So they would fucking say it,
- 25:00but they take like you got to respect the hustle.
- 25:03At least they didn't waste the opportunity.
- 25:07Yeah. And yeah, they they didn't.
- 25:09They didn't complain. They didn't complain about, you
- 25:12know, the opportunity either because the.
- 25:17Opportunity doesn't come just because you're white.
- 25:18I know that's like the narrative, but like, but I I
- 25:22never got opportunity. I had to take everything I ever
- 25:25fucking earned. But no, my my black friend
- 25:27actually said something that was pretty funny.
- 25:30And so he said, well, now white Biden is such a shitty president
- 25:36that now middle class white people know what it's like.
- 25:40The black, black and porno ghetto because.
- 25:46You know what? Ghetto America, because the
- 25:49price of the price of shit is too damn high.
- 25:53And again, to go back to, like, the see, like Ice Cube to me has
- 25:57been somebody. I've been listened to his music
- 25:58for so long. Like, I naturally quote him
- 26:02anyway, That's why it's so like, you know what?
- 26:05You're like somebody. And then they turn out to be a
- 26:07really leftist douche. This is the opposite feeling.
- 26:11I was like, no, no, I I stand by everything, he said in that
- 26:14Tucker interview. Actually, politically or
- 26:17otherwise, he didn't say anything I found controversial
- 26:20at all and it actually like his position like.
- 26:26Consider this an invitation to my gangsta Nation, was the
- 26:30punchline, because now we live in it.
- 26:33Westside Connection. Well, in it, but again.
- 26:37Bing Bing Bang. Well, and it actually made me
- 26:40think that was something, which is conservatives have.
- 26:44This is what Shmuley was kind of saying before the show, the show
- 26:49how dumb conservatives can be. Because like the song Fuck the
- 26:56Police isn't necessarily like about Fuck the police per se.
- 27:02It's more about the system. Well, yeah, they're not saying
- 27:06literally have sex with the police.
- 27:10And. Sometimes the pet depends on
- 27:14what the officer is wearing, you know.
- 27:16That was actually the first draft it was, but it didn't
- 27:20rhyme as well with anything. Yeah.
- 27:24Have sex with the police wasn't very good.
- 27:27No. Well, if you're if you're
- 27:29looking for Wisdom and Ice Cube, I would always go to Pimp West
- 27:33Side Connections, Classic Pimp the system, because everything
- 27:37in that is true. That shit is.
- 27:39True as fuck, You got to pimp the system for whatever you can
- 27:43take out of it and stop being a bitch.
- 27:47That that song is like the song of truly thought for a new
- 27:53century. Like like if there's any song
- 27:55that would fit what I say in that, which would be great.
- 27:59It'll be up on the sub stack when I get the sub stack.
- 28:02Well, because if you ain't pimping the system, then use the
- 28:05hoe. Yep.
- 28:08Just so you know, ladies and gentlemen of our fine viewing
- 28:11audience, you don't want to be there because the system will
- 28:14pimp you real quick. Taxes, you know?
- 28:19You think that. You think that ain't fucking
- 28:21like a handout. Like bitch, get me my money.
- 28:27You better get that money, you know, out there working it.
- 28:32Well, like, I mean, you have people like these conservatives
- 28:35are like priding themselves. I'm not gonna take the PPP loan.
- 28:40Right. I'm not gonna I I could qualify
- 28:44for foods. I won't do it because it's
- 28:46important for me not to take from this system so that it
- 28:50perpetuates itself. Pro Pro Pro tip, pro tip you
- 28:53average consuming GOP member middle class person.
- 28:59You, you already get more back than you pay in taxes, so you're
- 29:05already like, it's impossible. Because the way the system is
- 29:09set up, you're already benefiting in ways that you
- 29:12don't even think of in more dollar per value than you pay in
- 29:17taxes. That's this is true.
- 29:19But that's why we have, what, $28 trillion fucking deficit or
- 29:23whatever, Because they're spending more money than we
- 29:27have. And that's why you average
- 29:29consumer and some of it's whether you like it or not, like
- 29:32the war in Ukraine is you're you're paying for that and
- 29:36that's part of the benefits you get for your tax dollar,
- 29:39motherfucker. That's right.
- 29:41That's right. You may not like, you may not
- 29:44like the number, but that's the benefit, right?
- 29:47And you're getting way more than you're paying in that's.
- 29:52No, but I mean as our great friend and your.
- 29:55Kids are going to love it. Our future guest on the show, 5
- 29:59Act Ramaswami, would say, like, what is the underlying wisdom
- 30:02there? It's like, yeah, conservative
- 30:04guy, you got good instincts, right?
- 30:07You're trying not to take more from the pot so that there's
- 30:10more for the people that are who genuinely need it.
- 30:14Because you have great instincts that allow us to build great
- 30:18civilizations and Great Society, and you would feel bad from
- 30:22taking from it, however. That makes no sense.
- 30:26Your intuition makes no sense given the current context.
- 30:32Sure. So pimp the system.
- 30:35Right pimp the system. If you're not, if you're not
- 30:41taking advantage of every opportunity before you.
- 30:46Within reason, right? Within some fucking reason, You
- 30:49know what I mean? You're just allowing others to
- 30:54have a benefit over you. You're harming yourself, and not
- 30:58only are you harming yourself, you're harming your children or
- 31:01potential children who could benefit from those advantages
- 31:04that you're taking those opportunities that you're
- 31:06taking. Now obviously the the problem
- 31:10with welfare is really a problem of low class people not
- 31:16investing in themselves and just living off of it because they
- 31:19can just live in that short term time.
- 31:22Frame of the next check, which is kind of the problem with a
- 31:26lot of people inherently. You know, I mean, but but that's
- 31:29become a problem crept all the way up to now the middle class
- 31:33and even the upper middle class where.
- 31:35If they're living to. Yeah, no, nobody wants to.
- 31:38They're living check to check, though.
- 31:39That's what I'm saying. That's not just become welfare,
- 31:42that's become that's become like the bottom 75% living check to
- 31:47check, yeah. Yeah, but you know what I mean?
- 31:51I mean. That shortsightedness is
- 31:53something that a lot of these guys who are like, I would never
- 31:55take a check from the government half right, Well, that they're
- 31:59actually longer, they have a longer time frame that they're
- 32:03working with and they're just been suppressed by the system
- 32:06into living check by check. Well, and the reason I bring up
- 32:10the war is that's something your tax money's going to.
- 32:13And if you don't like it. Well, something else.
- 32:15Your tax money is going to his food stamps.
- 32:18If you're taking back food stamps, right?
- 32:20Because you because times are fucking tough under Joe Biden.
- 32:24If you if you hadn't noticed at the grocery store.
- 32:26I've noticed and I'm pretty sure everybody's noticed.
- 32:30But just in case you haven't at times get a little tough and the
- 32:33upper middle class is even feeling that now and all of a
- 32:36sudden they can't get the fanciest fucking coffee every
- 32:38morning and all the sudden, you know what I'm saying?
- 32:41All of a sudden. Things get a little expensive.
- 32:44The car note seems like a bit more than it should have cost
- 32:46this year, right? And fucking they they they have
- 32:50to cut back on their lattes and their fucking morning paper and
- 32:55all of a sudden they suddenly see it.
- 32:57And we're living in that world right now, for sure.
- 33:00Yeah, now we are. The upper middle class is now
- 33:05being forced to live paycheck to paycheck like everybody else.
- 33:12You know and in the in the ironic thing is a lot of those
- 33:16people that are now, you know being forced to live paycheck to
- 33:21paycheck that weren't before. They were the ones that were
- 33:24bitching oh, Trump's mean tweets and what?
- 33:29Oh yeah, no, it cuts. It cuts across such a wide swath
- 33:33of America right that that it intersects all types of people.
- 33:38And and and the the more that that that's what I'm talking
- 33:41about. I've always said the one thing
- 33:43you don't want to be is the extremist.
- 33:46When the normies rise up. That's a bad idea.
- 33:50Even if you're on the right. If you're the crazy guy when the
- 33:54normies are fucking pissed off at wit's end standing out like a
- 33:57sore thumb you're going to it's going to end badly for you.
- 34:00Like a Nick Fuentes is a great example, right?
- 34:03Yeah. No, yeah.
- 34:05I was just going to say we we've little and that's the other
- 34:08thing too is you know for all the, for all of this concern
- 34:13that well, if Trump, you know runs again and it'll be like you
- 34:17know Charlottesville 2.0, I mean.
- 34:22I used to do a show based on based on a premise called the
- 34:26Maxine position, and the Maxine position was a joke made by ASA
- 34:30J obviously as relates to like the Mark scene position, people
- 34:34would say he said the Maxine position is.
- 34:37When? Because I would make this case a
- 34:39lot. When the the far right and the
- 34:42far left push the normies so far that the center wakes up.
- 34:48The center is going to squash both because they're sick of
- 34:52your bullshit. And all I'm saying is that's
- 34:56starting to happen. Nick Quintas is getting
- 35:01mainstream attention, making fun of him on like both sides for
- 35:05having. Pedophiles all throughout his
- 35:08organization or whatever. Well, that's what I was going to
- 35:13say exactly. Is for all for all of this fear
- 35:17about Neo Nazis like rising up or what not, they seem to do a
- 35:20pretty good, damn good job of like taking themselves out of
- 35:24the. Because it's always a it's
- 35:27always a honey trap you can go back to.
- 35:30I might have mentioned this before.
- 35:32The National Socialist Movement in the 2000s, they.
- 35:37You know, completely imploded and like the main guy wrote a
- 35:40book where he admitted to being a pedophile and the and it was
- 35:43full of feds and operations and all this crazy crap, all the
- 35:47shit. Like if you see people saying
- 35:49weird shit like you should kill people, it's probably a trap
- 35:54dog. It's probably a trap.
- 35:59Yeah, totally. If you feel that way, I.
- 36:01I get it. Like, I get the frustration with
- 36:03the way things are, man. I try to be an optimist.
- 36:06That's I think what binds our show together.
- 36:08We do have tend to have an optimistic outlook, yeah, if it.
- 36:12Comes from way different places, but I get being pessimistic.
- 36:16I get seeing things fall apart. I get all that.
- 36:19But if some dude tells you to join a group, and the purpose of
- 36:22that group is to kill any group of specific people, it's It
- 36:27might be a Fed. That's how you know.
- 36:30That's how you know well and Max that that is something that I
- 36:34that I actually did kind of want to Segway into directly because.
- 36:42In some way shape or form. See, it might not be run by
- 36:45them, right? But there's going to be one.
- 36:47There is all I'm saying. And he's going to be the most
- 36:51extreme guy. Well, to that point, I think.
- 36:56I think one of the things that kind of, you know, separates
- 36:59this show from other, you know, shows is we're one of the shows.
- 37:05That Shmuley is on it. Well, yeah, well, obviously,
- 37:10yes, that. But, and Shmuley has actually
- 37:15been great about this. We're actually not black pills
- 37:20on shit. Yeah, we can.
- 37:23We can take a look around and say, yeah, shit's really bad
- 37:26right now. So we're not.
- 37:28I think we're one of the few podcasts out there on the right
- 37:31that is not like the fetus. The world is going to fucking
- 37:36and so. I mean, I was pretty black
- 37:41pilled, but then I went and saw the Barbie movie and like we
- 37:46live in a. Where the Barbie movie exists,
- 37:49like how can you be black pilled on our state of affairs?
- 37:54True. I have no idea why.
- 37:57I just, I just want to. Before you go off on your Barbie
- 38:00tangent, I just want to say this.
- 38:03I have absolutely no interest in seeing it.
- 38:05I don't care if it was woke or unwoke.
- 38:08It's the goddamn Barbie movie. Like what?
- 38:10People are going to get that upset about it?
- 38:12Like I see all these conservatives with it were
- 38:14outraged and shit. And so I just want to get this
- 38:17out of the way because you have a good thing about this and I
- 38:20have nothing to say because it's the Barbie movie and I'm a 40
- 38:24year old man. All of them.
- 38:26And I don't. I don't have daughters.
- 38:28Right. So.
- 38:30All of them that complained probably didn't watch it to the
- 38:33end or else they are so stupid that they hyper fixated like
- 38:38with a pen and paper like Ben Shapiro.
- 38:41All of the things in the movie that are, well, I don't like it
- 38:45because of this and that where they missed that the movie
- 38:48basically fails to be woke. The main character is the Barbie
- 38:55without a career, so that is her premise.
- 38:59Now she's evil in all of the toxic ways that a like that you
- 39:05see in the modern like feminist type women that are misguided
- 39:08and have failed relationships and are have inflated egos and
- 39:12all of that stuff. But basically, the Kins are
- 39:16oppressed. They don't have homes, they
- 39:19don't have purposes, They don't have jobs.
- 39:22They exist at odds with each other, trying to seek the
- 39:26attention of the Barbies, right? They're the.
- 39:30Broken boyfriend. Yes, he finds a portal to our
- 39:36world and goes through it because he's brave and awesome
- 39:40and in it a woman comes up to him and asked for the time now.
- 39:31And that's all they exist. That you or I this is
- 39:48insignificant because in our. Men can have jobs and purposes.
- 39:53He he's blown away. This woman was nice to him and
- 39:56he fulfilled the purpose. And then he finds out about jobs
- 40:00and horses and presidents and Cowboys and jackets and
- 40:04Susfester Stallone. He goes.
- 40:08He goes back and tells the other kins about jobs and.
- 40:15My interpretation of what you just said is he learned how to
- 40:18be a man all the sudden. Yes.
- 40:21Yes, based. Then he goes back to the Barbie
- 40:26world and tells the other Kins This they become immediately.
- 40:31It's going to be a revolution, dog.
- 40:33Yes, within like within the movie, within like 2 days, they
- 40:38basically take over all of the Barbie houses, become kins Casa.
- 40:43Blanca houses, I think they, I forget exactly what they called
- 40:46it and they start forming relationships with all of the
- 40:51Barbies and they're like strumming guitars on the beaches
- 40:56and spending time with them. And like, they're happy.
- 40:58So they're forming families, they have jobs, they have
- 41:01purposes. Barbie comes back to the real
- 41:05world or back to the Barbie world and gets in a fight with
- 41:09him because he doesn't recognize her.
- 41:14So she decides who does she decide to go to?
- 41:17Weird Barbie who's clearly a stand in for the unhappy sort of
- 41:23spinster 3rd wave feminist, right?
- 41:27Who tells her that they have to get rid of this, this, this is
- 41:30terrible, that these Barbies are brainwashed and that this is
- 41:35oppression. So it was just supposed to be
- 41:37like kind of the Mystic guide from like the Hero's Journey
- 41:41kind of thing? Yeah, well, it's weird.
- 41:44Yeah, she's flexible. And she's played that that
- 41:47horrible woman from SNL, the really unfunny blonde one.
- 41:53It does the I do weird. Faces Amy Amy Poehler.
- 41:59No, Amy Poehler would be much better.
- 42:01Oh. Kate McKinnon.
- 42:02Kate McKinnon. Yeah, yeah, I believe so.
- 42:06And so she tells them basically to sow discord among the Kins by
- 42:13basically cheating. Oh, so she's going to overthrow
- 42:16the new, like, male oriented family structure?
- 42:21And she does. Oh no, Barbie.
- 42:24And why? And then she struggles.
- 42:29Because she's now in that Barbie world like it was.
- 42:32And she's unhappy, right? All the other Barbies, like I
- 42:36said, this is, this is an important message.
- 42:38All the other Barbies have careers She doesn't.
- 42:42She's just Barbie. And so she doesn't have a
- 42:46purpose in her life and she doesn't fit into this world.
- 42:49And so she leaves. She doesn't get with Ken.
- 42:54She leaves and gives up being Barbie for the real world.
- 42:58And I kid you not. She becomes a mother.
- 43:02And that's how the movie ends. You're you're kidding.
- 43:09I'm not kidding. That last part can't be true.
- 43:13I swear to God I was fucking amazed at the end because like I
- 43:18said, if you're watching this movie, you're seeing Ken's.
- 43:22Ups and downs. And you're like, this Barbie is
- 43:25is terrible, right? And I've seen like one clip that
- 43:29was going around and it looks like the guy put his all into
- 43:32being Ken, which is pretty cool. Yeah, Ryan, Ryan Gosling played
- 43:37them. A funny thing too, is that
- 43:39there's there's a scene where like real Barbie or Barbie goes
- 43:43to real world. And the point was like the men
- 43:45would gawk at them and stare at them and whatnot.
- 43:49Right. And and show like the impression
- 43:51they faced, but in the actual shooting of that where they were
- 43:54like in LA, like no one paid her any attention I bet.
- 44:01But everyone was running up to Ryan Gosling as kin and like
- 44:05high fiving him and like women were looking at him and shit
- 44:08because he's got his six pack out and shit he's he's been like
- 44:12the sexiest man alive multiple times, right?
- 44:18I just found that funny because it was like, Oh my God, no, one
- 44:21cat called her. Yeah, of course.
- 44:22Well, I did. I did mention before we went on
- 44:25air. Like, I know that Amy Schumer
- 44:27rejected the Barbie movie because she said it wasn't woke
- 44:30enough. Yeah, she she thought it was too
- 44:33right wing. So maybe that's what she was
- 44:35talking about. I I think that she she got it
- 44:38the the thing about the movie is I don't think it was
- 44:40intentionally set up to be this way.
- 44:41I actually think that it was written by like a turf and I
- 44:45think that the and turfs are our allies in the current year
- 44:49because that's where we're at. Well, I I mean, Max, you were.
- 44:54No, I love turfs. I got a whole bunch of turfs on
- 44:57Twitter now, and they post some of the funniest shit you'll ever
- 44:59see. Yeah.
- 45:01I just think that it was inadvertently made based and I
- 45:05just want to say that I'm a conservative.
- 45:10Damn. Damn, we actually, we actually
- 45:15got we should actually put that on a fucking T-shirt, bro.
- 45:20That would be even get sued by Mattel or some shit base.
- 45:26No, no. We'd have to make the we'd have
- 45:28to make the logo Mantel. That is so worth it.
- 45:31Though. Hold on, I have to bring this up
- 45:34just on the off chance it might actually work.
- 45:39That that would be. That would be.
- 45:41That would be pretty funny though, no?
- 45:44The the thing that is is there's actually a, there's a.
- 45:51I just. I just want to, yeah.
- 45:54Already cut you off, but I just want to say do not have your
- 45:59children see that movie. It is not at all even attempting
- 46:04to be appropriate for them. Yeah.
- 46:07And well, no, I, I I figure that's why it did well at the
- 46:11box office, though, is all the kids seeing it.
- 46:13Great. Yeah, well they they like
- 46:17repeatedly use curse words and a lot of the jokes are sexual.
- 46:20And like I said, I can kind of like see this movie and be like,
- 46:24ohh damn. I understand the the overarching
- 46:27story, but like the way that gender.
- 46:33Is put across to most of the movie is basically that there's
- 46:37like a battle between men and women that's inherent and that
- 46:40like you see them treating each other poorly basically.
- 46:46I wouldn't recommend that. Like if you have a child there,
- 46:49they might get bad. They might mimic bad ideas that
- 46:53they saw there. Because it's Barbie, right?
- 46:55And it's trying to present toxic ideas and kids mimic them.
- 46:59God, yeah. Yeah.
- 47:01So it's it's tough with kids entertainment these days, but at
- 47:04least I I get the pass of skipping Barbie because my boy
- 47:08is not into that. You know what he's into?
- 47:11I just said I'm up today and he's like upstairs right now.
- 47:14He even came in a second ago. I had to cut out because he
- 47:18wanted some water, but like, he's playing C what is it?
- 47:24The Sea of Thieves? The pirate game on Xbox.
- 47:26Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like his new He's super
- 47:30how he's going. Are yo and playing the game
- 47:36having a good time? Yeah, Pirates are cool, right?
- 47:40Yeah. Also, I I didn't mention it
- 47:43because it wasn't really important because Barbie's not
- 47:45really important in that movie. Barbie becomes upset when she
- 47:49comes to the real world because the teenage girls call her like
- 47:52fascist and upholding, like oppression and shit based.
- 48:01That is exactly what you'd expect out of teenage girls,
- 48:04isn't it? Yeah, yeah, now.
- 48:09Which there was a a study done. I think it was you Gov.
- 48:12I'd have to bring it up that I read that basically showed that
- 48:17it was done among 12th graders, and it showed that about 30% of
- 48:2412th graders now identify as conservative.
- 48:28Which is the highest since Carter based.
- 48:33But like it was. Sorry, I I won't even say it
- 48:37because I'd have to look at the data again.
- 48:39I I might have confused that, but basically that more young
- 48:43men are identifying as conservative and more young
- 48:45women are identifying as liberal.
- 48:48Yeah, than in the past. But I I think the degree to
- 48:54which women are these these? High school girls and young
- 49:00women or whatever, I don't really know what to call them
- 49:02because 12th grade, that's like a weird cutoff.
- 49:05They they they're like kids to me.
- 49:07But whatever the what was I saying?
- 49:14I think that a lot of that has to do with like Roe V Wade.
- 49:18Like they probably have like 1 issue basically and then they're
- 49:21like ohh sure I'm this thing because of that one issue.
- 49:25Yeah, well. I mean, let's be honest, I think
- 49:28a lot. I think a lot of the high school
- 49:30boys are conservative because they see that the left basically
- 49:34is demonizing all men, right? So and I think well and the the
- 49:41natural rebelliousness against the system and the system is
- 49:44full of cat ladies pushing that shit.
- 49:48The natural male, like aggressive instinct is to push
- 49:51back against the cat ladies in charge.
- 49:53And right now the cat lady cat ladies are preaching that shit.
- 49:57So it's not cool. It's like annoying.
- 50:01And of course, that that's what even makes them naturally
- 50:04conservative, if anything. Yeah.
- 50:09Which you know I'm I'm actually I'm actually glad that that
- 50:14gives That gives me hope. So, well, it it's why our
- 50:19generate My generation specifically was like, naturally
- 50:22liberal because the conservative institutions were being like
- 50:25dumb and censoring things and starting wars legit.
- 50:31Yeah. And so, you know, I was kind of
- 50:34like a little bit more above it than that.
- 50:35I don't just fall for propaganda, but I could see the
- 50:38people around me, they're just like, yeah, yeah, conservatives
- 50:42bad. And they're going to think that
- 50:43forever. Right.
- 50:46Yeah, now. And now the left is doing the
- 50:48same thing pretty much. Worse.
- 50:52At least we had money. At least we had goddamn money.
- 50:58Yeah. Well.
- 51:02Speaking of you might not have had Dungeons and Dragons and
- 51:05heavy metal, but we had money. Speaking of you know, under
- 51:12Trump, this is the beauty of it all.
- 51:14Under Trump, I had all of it. Dungeons and Dragons.
- 51:18Heavy metal, money. Opportunity.
- 51:24And Biden stole it away. Yeah, and now And now.
- 51:32Well, I don't know. Reliable.
- 51:34This is because I'm looking at the link right now that Maya
- 51:40sent me and I thought it was a good link until I saw that it
- 51:45comes from Tim Cast, something that was.
- 51:50No, I I appreciate my sending stuff to contribute to the show.
- 51:55But it's Tim Pool, and it's a little suss, to put it mildly.
- 52:04But, you know, he's talking out. There's there's the prospect of,
- 52:10you know, Biden forming a draft for us to go into Ukraine.
- 52:15Here's the thing about that. The reason why I bring it up is.
- 52:18Biden is is the one guy who I think would start a draft.
- 52:26Oh dude. So you're telling me that we're
- 52:29going to send a bunch of young American males that don't have,
- 52:32like, purpose or guidance and have been ran by a bunch of cat
- 52:36ladies to an ultra nationalist country fighting for their
- 52:39independence so that they can serve with ultra nationalist
- 52:42brigades in order to defeat the Russians.
- 52:45And then they're going to come back to the United States.
- 52:47Having been exposed to ultra nationalist right wing ideas and
- 52:51having the means to wage rewards they didn't want to wage in the
- 52:541st place, being sent by an oligarchy, I'm sure that'll work
- 52:57really well. I see no problem for the regime
- 53:00with that. Go ahead.
- 53:05That's an that's an interesting way of looking at it, Shmoy.
- 53:08Yeah, I know. It's a great.
- 53:10Idea right? I I had not can.
- 53:15To quote to quote to quote The Big Lebowski's assistant Ed I I
- 53:22had not considered that dude. I mean, it's just funny.
- 53:28Like, no, quite literally. There's always been this kind of
- 53:32thing where like the Ukraine was not convenient for them.
- 53:39Yeah. Like the idea that we share an
- 53:42ideology with with those people is kind of absurd.
- 53:47I mean, they're not as, like foreign as the Taliban or
- 53:50something, but like, they're definitely not.
- 53:52They definitely don't have a lot in common with our Silicon
- 53:55Valley overlords. Right.
- 53:58These are like village people these these are like Eastern
- 54:02European turnip farmers and shit, they I.
- 54:08I think the big, I think the big kind of thing why people are so
- 54:14against us going into Ukraine, at least that I've seen is they
- 54:19don't want it turning into another Vietnam, which is kind
- 54:22of what the the fear is. Yeah, I look.
- 54:27Look, I mean I I just right about how it would be a bad idea
- 54:31for them however like. No, I I just don't want any
- 54:36Americans dying in an ethnic conflict in Europe.
- 54:40Right. I mean, I look at World War One
- 54:44and I'm like, Americans were sent to die so that, like, the
- 54:49British could fuck the British and French to defeat those
- 54:54Germans because those Germans were so bad, they were the evil
- 54:58Han and all. It's like, no, everyone who died
- 55:01in that war that was an American, died for nothing.
- 55:05It was totally unnecessary and that that's basically the
- 55:09scenario that I fear. Like I don't really think that
- 55:12an American should die for Ukraine unless they want to like
- 55:18go join the Ukrainian army. Now some some method of arming
- 55:27them might be good, but like the fact of the matter is is I have.
- 55:32A lot of concerns with how we've armed them and.
- 55:37Well, that's what I was going to say too, is we've we've been
- 55:39arming them for like a couple of years now.
- 55:43I would feel much more comfortable with arming them if
- 55:47if we made new artillery shelves and sent them to them, if we
- 55:53made new armored personnel carriers and sent them to them
- 55:57now. People say, oh, well, we'll just
- 56:01replenish our stocks once we give up our surplus to them.
- 56:06But I I don't think that that's the case, especially with
- 56:08production. I mean, we had the president of
- 56:11the United States say we're running out of shells.
- 56:13Now presumably we can buy these artillery shells from South
- 56:17Korea, but here's the thing, they're buying them from South
- 56:20Korea. Ukraine's buying them from South
- 56:22Korea. South Korea has a huge
- 56:25stockpile. They're not going to run out,
- 56:27but they need that stockpile because of North Korea.
- 56:34Well, the well, the other fear too is that like Russia is going
- 56:38to ally with China. I mean, they already have, you
- 56:42know, but that China is going to get more involved in this and
- 56:47that's going to cause big problems for us.
- 56:50Well, it's it's kind of amusing because.
- 56:54The Russian Soyu, the head of the Ministry of Defense, went to
- 57:00North Korea and they did a parade and showed off their
- 57:03weapons and stuff. And so we have an instance now
- 57:06where South Korea is selling weapons to Ukraine and North
- 57:11Korea is selling weapons to Russia.
- 57:17I just find that I'm using this little.
- 57:20Both sides are. Selling weapons and making money
- 57:23off of the war. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the
- 57:30way. That's the way wars usually go.
- 57:33But from what I've heard, I mean, I just think that we could
- 57:36support them in a much more efficient manner if we went
- 57:41outside of the contract. I mean, we have arms
- 57:43manufacturers, ammo manufacturers that would be
- 57:46perfectly capable of producing rifles for every single
- 57:49Ukrainian. Now you you might ask why you
- 57:55would want to do that? Well, because right now they use
- 57:58the AK74, that's the primary weapon.
- 58:03That's a 545 round. NATO does not use that.
- 58:08America does not have the capacity to produce that in
- 58:12large scale. We have more than enough
- 58:14capacity to produce 556. There's thousands upon thousands
- 58:19of people. People have this shit in their
- 58:20garage. Yeah, that.
- 58:25Yeah, that's true. Oh, by the way.
- 58:28We could arm. We could arm them for $400.00.
- 58:31I just want to say we can give rifles for $400.00 apiece to the
- 58:34Ukrainians produce jobs for Americans here.
- 58:38American manufacturing, not necessarily.
- 58:40Not even the defense contractors, but smaller firms
- 58:43could do this. Right.
- 58:45And then we could, we could sell the ammo to them and this would
- 58:49help our local production. But the Biden administration
- 58:51wouldn't do that because they don't believe in the Second
- 58:53Amendment and they want their pork grill spending and they're
- 58:56corrupt oligarchs and the defense contractors to make
- 59:00money. Of course, if we're going to
- 59:02send them javelins and shit, you know they're going to get their
- 59:04money. But my point is that it's it's
- 59:08been poorly run even if you think that it should.
- 59:11And. I I find this to be a problem
- 59:14even though like I said, I don't really have much of a problem
- 59:18with arming them. I do think, however, that it's
- 59:22perfectly legitimate for citizens to say there's homeless
- 59:27vets there's all these other issues.
- 59:30There's the southern border. What are we doing about those
- 59:33things? But I I think that it's a cop
- 59:37out. I I think personally that they
- 59:41could. They could secure the border and
- 59:45give some amount of assistance to Ukraine.
- 59:50But I don't like I don't like that Zelensky's daughter is
- 59:55chilling out in a $400 million mansion.
- 59:59Yeah, I know. During wartime.
- 1:00:00Yeah, that's. Explain that to me, you know.
- 1:00:04Well, I mean. Well, I mean, I I don't like the
- 1:00:07fact that the one ski has become such a celebrity over here in
- 1:00:11the in the USI mean, why is yeah.
- 1:00:17Why is he? Why is he flavor the weak,
- 1:00:21right? Well, I I think he's a great
- 1:00:24leader in that he's gotten supplies for his country, right?
- 1:00:28Sure, I I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with that.
- 1:00:32But it's like, yeah, but from our perspective.
- 1:00:38I mean, they're they're treating him like they're almost treating
- 1:00:41him like Obama in in a way, in the sense that like they're
- 1:00:45they're glorifying him a bit excessively.
- 1:00:47And it's like Okay. Yes, he's a great leader, but,
- 1:00:52you know, he's not even our, you know, God, I wish we had Kurt
- 1:00:57back on here. I, I, I love hearing Kurt talk
- 1:00:59about it. He lived there for years, had
- 1:01:01businesses there, really loved the place.
- 1:01:06Yeah, So I I love his perspective on it.
- 1:01:10But no, I I think that from our perspective, it's perfectly
- 1:01:14legitimate to say this country is incredibly corrupt.
- 1:01:18Because in America we kind of shifted a lot of our corruption
- 1:01:21up to the top. Most, like daytoday, citizens
- 1:01:27are not going to have to pay bribes to the mob or pay bribes
- 1:01:31to the cops like that. That's not, at least in the vast
- 1:01:35majority of America, that's not really the case.
- 1:01:40The corruption in Congress and sit in the Senate among massive
- 1:01:45pharmaceutical company, you know what I mean?
- 1:01:47It's way out of reach for the average person's life.
- 1:01:49And that's not the case in the Ukraine.
- 1:01:53Yeah, right, right. So more theus actually found
- 1:01:59that chart of. 12th grade boys that you were talking out okay
- 1:02:03cool earlier, Schmooly. So yeah, let me see if I can.
- 1:02:14So, yeah, there, there's that. What is that 2324%?
- 1:02:21Yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:24See that's that's very hot. Like my understanding is was
- 1:02:28since like the Carter administration it's been.
- 1:02:31Yeah. What's also interesting though
- 1:02:35in regards to this survey is it's is noticed that this is
- 1:02:40from the University of Michigan which let's face it, you know
- 1:02:46the University of Michigan isn't exactly a well Michigan itself
- 1:02:51isn't necessarily a the conservative hot bed.
- 1:02:55Yeah, I mean it would be interesting to conclude this
- 1:02:58data you what you'd want to do is look at like Gen.
- 1:03:00Z voting and try to isolate it because I wonder if in this
- 1:03:07those who don't identify as one or the other lean to the right
- 1:03:11or to the left. From what I've seen, at least as
- 1:03:14of right now, independence and moderates, people identify as
- 1:03:19one of the one or the other of those or both are leaning right.
- 1:03:27And that's that's where you see things like like how many people
- 1:03:33voted for Trump in 2024. Obviously the Democrats had a
- 1:03:37better round game, but yeah. Yeah, I I just thought that was
- 1:03:46interesting. So thanks to more for sending
- 1:03:51that our way also. Tucker Carlson dropped another
- 1:04:01video. He dropped an interview with
- 1:04:05Devin Archer, who I guess is one of 100 Biden's.
- 1:04:10Or was one of 100 Biden's business partners.
- 1:04:13I've not seen it yet. Is this thing that we want to
- 1:04:21commentate on or? Well, my opinion is that they
- 1:04:25need to indict Trump because he's obviously the big guy in
- 1:04:28the Hunter Biden e-mail. You know, why not?
- 1:04:33I mean, if you're going to charge him with 500 years worth
- 1:04:36of crime, you know, just just static.
- 1:04:38I mean, you know, he had documents, but he also moved the
- 1:04:41documents. Those are two different charges,
- 1:04:43OK. Well, if if we're going to, if
- 1:04:47we're going to, they're treating him like they would treat you.
- 1:04:51They're treating him like they would treat a normal Joe that
- 1:04:55finds himself being targeted by the law or prosecutor.
- 1:04:59They do this every single day to railroad people.
- 1:05:02And the fact that they're doing it to a billionaire just shows
- 1:05:05something. It shows something.
- 1:05:08It shows how. Skinny they are.
- 1:05:11Yeah, well, well, they're thrilling, proverbial shit at
- 1:05:15the wall with Trump and hoping that something sticks, right?
- 1:05:19Like. They're not even, they're
- 1:05:23basically throwing all of the darts at the wall at this point.
- 1:05:30And again, I mean, indictments don't mean arrests necessarily.
- 1:05:36So, yeah, yeah. But I mean, my point is that
- 1:05:41this is exactly what they do. They throw everything and money
- 1:05:46and like, you know, you would think that one charge would be
- 1:05:50something, but they find a way to make it 30 charges.
- 1:05:57Yeah, you jaywalked Sam, but you also didn't look both ways.
- 1:06:03And when you jayrocked, you unauthorized entry in front of a
- 1:06:08car, but you also disturbed traffic and you also OK, so
- 1:06:14you're jaywalking charge is 50 years in prison, you know if you
- 1:06:20were found guilty on all these charges.
- 1:06:22Well, no, I think, I think with like one of the, I think with
- 1:06:25like one of the New York charges that Trump is facing like one of
- 1:06:29them is like that he like is that he like supposedly like
- 1:06:33ripped A tag on like a mattress or something and that's like and
- 1:06:38that's like illegal in the state of New York, NY or something.
- 1:06:42I don't know. Some of some of them are just
- 1:06:44absolutely. You know, outrageous.
- 1:06:48But meanwhile, we got Hunter Biden out here selling crack to
- 1:06:54ever. To everyone but Oh no.
- 1:06:56Let's, let's let's. Ignore that.
- 1:06:59So you know, it's it's fascinating.
- 1:07:08So I actually, I have not seen this.
- 1:07:14I do kind of want to. You know, I guess react to Max.
- 1:07:22Are you still? Are you still here?
- 1:07:26Nah, he's he passed away. Rest in peace.
- 1:07:33Well, well, at least he got spend out his last moments with
- 1:07:38the two people he loved the most.
- 1:07:41I mean, this is debatable, OK? Well, I mean, he loved more.
- 1:07:49Obviously me. Well, yeah.
- 1:07:52Well, yes, you know, but. Well, well, you've know you've
- 1:07:58known him for way longer. Like, I'm not.
- 1:08:01I'm not denying that at all. Well, it's just that, you know,
- 1:08:08he always admired me, my wit, my humor.
- 1:08:13Yes, now we he did it, you know, and he.
- 1:08:18Always told me, you know, he was my friend and his passing is
- 1:08:27going to be difficult and it's going to be hard.
- 1:08:31Like how how are we going to do the show?
- 1:08:33It's just going to be you and I. That's it's absurd.
- 1:08:37There's going to be dead air, Sam.
- 1:08:39There's going to be dead air, dude.
- 1:08:41No, the the there won't. There will never be the we will.
- 1:08:46Be dead air because he's dead. It it'll it'll.
- 1:08:51Just be his. It'll just be his avatar
- 1:08:55hyperventilating him. We can't do.
- 1:08:59This on our own. I I'd give you a I'd give you a
- 1:09:03virtual Kleenex. If I I'd give you a Kleenex if I
- 1:09:07could stop. Don't be perverted.
- 1:09:10Now is not the time to be perverted, Sam.
- 1:09:14Get your mind out of the gutter. What's it I I.
- 1:09:20Didn't mean I didn't mean any clear.
- 1:09:22I didn't mean Kleenex like in that way.
- 1:09:25What other way is there for a Kleenex?
- 1:09:28What else are you going to do with a Kleenex?
- 1:09:29Sam, I don't have a Kleenex. I have a sock.
- 1:09:34It's right here. Well, well, well, now.
- 1:09:38Well now you. Well now.
- 1:09:39You're the pervert, right? Yeah.
- 1:09:45But but like. Well, well, you know, as far as,
- 1:09:49like as far as sick things to do with Kleenexes.
- 1:09:53You know, let's ask the expert on this type of thing, Hunter
- 1:09:58Biden, or more specifically, his former partner, Devin Archer.
- 1:10:06Let me test this out real quick. Holy shit.
- 1:10:09End of the day, he notifications and messages.
- 1:10:13You're a popular man, Sam. I am can you can you hear the
- 1:10:18audio real? Quick Yes, he had a career in
- 1:10:19Washington. OK.
- 1:10:22So let me. All right.
- 1:10:30We'll pause for commentary. So you worked with Hunter Biden
- 1:10:34in a bunch of different businesses?
- 1:10:36What were the skill, the specific skills that he brought
- 1:10:39to clients? Well, at the end of the day he,
- 1:10:41you know, he had a career in Washington, graduated to Yale
- 1:10:43Law School and had a very big network in in DC and brought
- 1:10:47that know how and understanding of DC and ultimately the Biden
- 1:10:51brand. The know how so?
- 1:10:53As far as I could tell, he wasn't doing legal work.
- 1:10:56He wasn't in the counsel's office at Purisma, right?
- 1:10:59No, no. So the the network in the Biden
- 1:11:03brand sounds like the the kind of key component of.
- 1:11:05Absolutely. What he was bringing, do you
- 1:11:08think that he would have been in those businesses not having a
- 1:11:12business background without his father being in a government
- 1:11:15position? It's hard to speculate and in
- 1:11:19those regards, I mean, yeah, I think when we initially met and
- 1:11:23and he talked about his advisory business, his business that.
- 1:11:27Needed to transition from lobbying to advisory and the
- 1:11:29interest in private equity. It seemed like a new and
- 1:11:34interesting network for us to expand our business.
- 1:11:38Whether he could have been in that position, it's hard for me
- 1:11:42to speculate, but obviously the brand of Biden adds a lot of
- 1:11:45power when your dad's vice president.
- 1:11:47For sure. And there was a time maybe 10
- 1:11:49years ago when private equity maybe like a I now was just one
- 1:11:53of those turns people thrown in, I'm in private equity.
- 1:11:55But the mechanics, having done it coming from a business
- 1:11:58background yourself, are kind of complex.
- 1:12:00Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah.
- 1:12:01No, it's complex business, takes years of training.
- 1:12:05But again, they're the initial idea around the business that
- 1:12:08they were going to provide you know, the government insight and
- 1:12:11an additional network to raise capital and then you know deal
- 1:12:14with regulatory issues that you might have at the corporate
- 1:12:16level. Right, regulatory issues.
- 1:12:18Exactly. OK, so that would be more his.
- 1:12:20Very. That would be his right.
- 1:12:22But did he have a sophisticated understanding of regulation, do
- 1:12:26you think? I think that he led a team that
- 1:12:30had had a sophisticated. Because I lived in Washington a
- 1:12:36long time around, a lot of regulation, also a very complex
- 1:12:39area. Absolutely, absolutely.
- 1:12:41I think there's that, You know, you got to be an expert in
- 1:12:43knowing the guy, and he was the guy that was the expert in
- 1:12:45knowing the guy. He was an expert in knowing the
- 1:12:47guy and who was the guy he knew? Well, he knew a lot of people,
- 1:12:51but obviously there was some familiar, you know, his brother,
- 1:12:54his father, some of his father's siblings.
- 1:12:57So he knew a lot of people and and obviously I know you're
- 1:13:00pointing to, you know, the father being the key
- 1:13:02relationship. Well, no, I I'm just trying to
- 1:13:05get a sense of Washington's not a money town, right?
- 1:13:09You know, people don't aren't in business in Washington for the
- 1:13:12most part, and most people don't have business skills.
- 1:13:14That I. That is a key point there that
- 1:13:17like DC is not a money town. It's all about power and who you
- 1:13:23know in DC that's like the real currency.
- 1:13:34You know it's it's all like New New York City is definitely
- 1:13:39money based, right? But.
- 1:13:42DC definitely is more like a who you know, type of, you know,
- 1:13:49place. Yeah, and that's that's why it
- 1:13:51produces a bunch of, like, degenerate ruling classes that
- 1:13:55aren't tied to anything tangible and don't understand things
- 1:13:59other than to grift and lie and virtue signal and stab each
- 1:14:03other in the back. Right.
- 1:14:06Whereas you know, and this is, this is what's so crucial, I
- 1:14:09think to Tucker as well and his critique of sort of the
- 1:14:13managerial elite are currently at least in his book Ship of
- 1:14:17Fools. There's a lot of overlap between
- 1:14:20mine and his views. However, I I think that we're we
- 1:14:25will be able, especially now that things are kind of
- 1:14:29accelerating, we'll be able to have a new group of elites gain
- 1:14:36status and power outside of the system and then seek to replace
- 1:14:39it. Because if you remember the
- 1:14:41current sort of technocrats, the idea that like college
- 1:14:44professors would be calling the shots over politicians, that was
- 1:14:49a new concept around 1910. It was the progressive movement
- 1:14:52that implemented that, culminating in the New Deal and
- 1:14:56all of that stuff. Yeah, prior to that things were
- 1:14:59done in a a much more corrupt way.
- 1:15:02It was like, I want to build a skyscraper.
- 1:15:05I pay off the mob so that the union will actually build it,
- 1:15:10and then I pay off the politicians and then we build
- 1:15:13the Empire State Building in seven months.
- 1:15:16Right. But also, and here's The thing
- 1:15:19is, the mob actually did have, like, legit business.
- 1:15:24You know, interest to, I'm just saying like everything was done
- 1:15:32like that. Politicians actually held power
- 1:15:36and people with money would give them money in exchange for the
- 1:15:40OK to do things where as much now, now everything is really
- 1:15:44bureaucratic and there's a million managers behind that.
- 1:15:49And well, the politician will tell you, well you got to get
- 1:15:52approval by this and that. It's that system was implemented
- 1:15:56by the progressives specifically to take away the power of these
- 1:16:00politicians to get rid of that system.
- 1:16:03My point is that those same type of elites, these kind of people
- 1:16:07that live in Washington or are part of the managerial elite
- 1:16:10that have all of these positions, could themselves be
- 1:16:13displaced by military elite or a business world elite.
- 1:16:25Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
- 1:16:27I might have derailed it, but I think that it's interesting when
- 1:16:30I when I listen to Tucker speak and make these points, I put it
- 1:16:35in the larger context of his book, which I would encourage
- 1:16:37people to read, actually. Oh yeah.
- 1:16:39Ship of Fools is is excellent. I mean, and I I have the audit
- 1:16:43book version and and he so I mean I've I actually hear him
- 1:16:47you know talking about it directly and yeah everything you
- 1:16:50meet everything he says is completely spot on in that book
- 1:16:56and refers to what what you're saying so but yeah.
- 1:17:01I've noticed in 30 years of living there, so really the
- 1:17:05business of Washington is selling access.
- 1:17:07That's what it looked like to me.
- 1:17:08Not just under Biden, but like. Yeah.
- 1:17:10No, I think that's it. I mean, I think that's the one
- 1:17:12of the like core misconceptions. I mean, it seems like when I
- 1:17:15understanding a regulatory environment means selling access
- 1:17:18at the end of the day, that's how I interpret it.
- 1:17:20And I think that's how most people in Wall Street, whether
- 1:17:23they admit it or not. Interpret it.
- 1:17:25Yeah, so we're gonna we've got a complex business that intersects
- 1:17:28with government. How do I deal with getting a guy
- 1:17:32a visa that needs to come over for business deal?
- 1:17:29We need a guy who knows it. Call our lobbyist that knows the
- 1:17:37guy in DHS or used to work in DHS or.
- 1:17:40You know, in customs, Border Patrol or the people at the
- 1:17:43embassy and state, they might be able to help.
- 1:17:44So they're very like tactical elements that are regulatory and
- 1:17:48compliance and governance that you have to go through.
- 1:17:50And you got to know the guy that worked at the old agency that
- 1:17:52now has the lobbying firm that can go back to the agency and,
- 1:17:55you know, get get things put to the front of the line.
- 1:17:57So the reason I'm asking this is because it's not to give the
- 1:18:01Biden's a pass. Hardly.
- 1:18:03But when people say, well, there's some question about
- 1:18:06whether Hunter was trading on his father's name.
- 1:18:10If you live in Washington, like that's the whole city right
- 1:18:13there. Right.
- 1:18:14I think you, you know the answer to that at the end of the day.
- 1:18:17So any other best advantage to do that because of where he was
- 1:18:20and you know we thought that when we went into business this
- 1:18:23was a great opportunity for us, so.
- 1:18:25I get it. There are a lot of, lot of.
- 1:18:26And you're not the only one who did that.
- 1:18:29Not the only son of a famous government official who's done
- 1:18:33this right at all, but I just wonder, like when you hear
- 1:18:36people say, well, it's kind of an open question.
- 1:18:38Right. About why they hired Hunter
- 1:18:40Biden. Like, that's pretty
- 1:18:41disingenuous, no? Right.
- 1:18:42I think at the end of it, so when you look at the there,
- 1:18:46there are people that maybe were you know sons or relatives or
- 1:18:49brother in laws of other high-ranking officials.
- 1:18:51But I think what we ran into and with what Hunter ran into was
- 1:18:54like almost like an Icarus issue.
- 1:18:56So he got a little it was too close to the sun, it was too
- 1:18:59good to be true, and the connections were were too close
- 1:19:03in the scrutiny too much. And it ended up destroying, you
- 1:19:07know, he left the wake of a lot of, a lot of distraction in
- 1:19:11business over a number of years. So how many?
- 1:19:14It's been reported? And you have said that there
- 1:19:16were occasions when Joe Biden would call in with clients
- 1:19:21present on a speakerphone, right?
- 1:19:23How how many times do you think that happened?
- 1:19:25I mean over a 10 year partnership I would you know the
- 1:19:28number I'm going with is 20, that's probably the the, the
- 1:19:31amount that I kind of record, yeah a lot.
- 1:19:34So Joe Biden, who's very much a product of Washington, of
- 1:19:37course, must have known that he was calling in to effectively a
- 1:19:40business meeting that his son was having.
- 1:19:43I mean, he must have understood that that that was kind of what
- 1:19:47his son was selling. Well, that's, I mean it's hard
- 1:19:49for me to speculate on. That but, like I guess my quite
- 1:19:52just to keep it to the facts. Joe Biden, then the sitting vice
- 1:19:56president, knew that there were hunters, business associates in
- 1:20:00the room. Yeah, I think I can.
- 1:20:02I could definitively say at particular dinners or meetings
- 1:20:06he knew there were business associates and he, you know, we
- 1:20:09or if I was there, I was a business associate too.
- 1:20:12So I think or if you know any of the other colleagues from the DC
- 1:20:16office or the New York office were there.
- 1:20:17So yeah, at times there were from the, you know, to be you
- 1:20:21know, completely clear on the calls.
- 1:20:23I don't know if it was an orchestrated call in or not.
- 1:20:26It certainly was powerful though, because you know, if
- 1:20:28you're sitting with a foreign business person and you hear the
- 1:20:31vice president's voice, that's prize enough.
- 1:20:33I mean that's that's that's pretty impactful stuff for
- 1:20:36anyone. Yeah.
- 1:20:39I mean again going back to what you know who and I were saying
- 1:20:45earlier, it's, it's the access to power, right, that that's the
- 1:20:52commodity in DC. And even if Joe Biden just like
- 1:20:57stumbled upon those, you know, calls on accident quote, UN
- 1:21:05quote, you know that that would have still been like a major
- 1:21:09poll for several of well, that was business.
- 1:21:14If it wasn't for the big guy thing, I I could believe that
- 1:21:18Joe Biden being the guy he is. Would get a sense my son's doing
- 1:21:25something corrupt. I'm not going to pry.
- 1:21:30Then I have my plausible deniability.
- 1:21:33You know what I mean? Yeah, you can do what he's
- 1:21:35doing. But I I I do think that there's
- 1:21:38a possibility that he was involved, a good possibility and
- 1:21:41that there's questions involved in that and.
- 1:21:44It's very plausible that nothing technically illegal happened,
- 1:21:48but that's the kind of thing that you would expect with this
- 1:21:51kind of situation. You know, if you're if you're
- 1:21:53him, it would kind of behoove you if if you're not getting any
- 1:21:57money, if you're not getting a cut of it, to not ask too many
- 1:22:01questions, you know what I mean? Yeah.
- 1:22:05Don't ask, don't tell. Kind of a thing.
- 1:22:07And look. It's also possible that on those
- 1:22:10emails look sketchy that. That he was full of shit and
- 1:22:14just trying to get more money. Hey, I need 10 more percent for
- 1:22:18the big guy, right? Yeah.
- 1:22:23I mean, this is the kind of thing that I I'd like to know.
- 1:22:27Yeah, I mean, I I'd like, I'd like to know if I'd like to know
- 1:22:31how many of these business ventures were then, you know,
- 1:22:33used as like campaign finance for, you know, Biden's
- 1:22:40presidential run the first go round.
- 1:22:43Yeah, I mean these are all, these are all good questions and
- 1:22:47and like I said, I'm trying to be as objective and fair as
- 1:22:51possible. Based on what I've seen, it's
- 1:22:53entirely plausible that if there was like a a proper, you know,
- 1:22:58trial or whatever, I'd find out. Hey, actually Joe wasn't
- 1:23:01involved, you know? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:05No, I I mean at. Least not in a way that would
- 1:23:07be, you know, criminal or directly.
- 1:23:13I mean, I I think at the very least we deserve an
- 1:23:15investigation. Yeah, To that.
- 1:23:19To that. So.
- 1:23:20Look, I mean, how many times did they investigate Trump with the
- 1:23:23impeachments and this and that? And then every time it's like,
- 1:23:26oh, OK, he didn't do it. OK.
- 1:23:28Wow. Well, well, that, well, that's
- 1:23:33what we're getting at, you know, these days now too is.
- 1:23:38Look, every little thing they accused Trump of.
- 1:23:42They got a fucking whole ass hearing.
- 1:23:45They got whole ass investigations right.
- 1:23:49So why can't we have an investigation to see if he was
- 1:23:54directly involved in this kind of stuff?
- 1:23:56Like I said and I, and I'll reiterate it, it's entirely
- 1:24:00possible that Joe, sensing his son was corrupt, decided I'm not
- 1:24:05going to pry in this. I'm not going to ask too many
- 1:24:09questions. And Hunter, in these emails,
- 1:24:12there's like, I need 10 more percent for the big guy, and
- 1:24:15it's a tactic to get more money. Yeah, but.
- 1:24:20But that's still scummy, yeah? We need an investigation.
- 1:24:25Every single, every single Time people had concerns about Trump.
- 1:24:30Time and time again there was an investigation.
- 1:24:33Time and time again, there was a hearing.
- 1:24:35He got impeached over. Shit.
- 1:24:38Oh, over a phone. Let's let's remember the phone
- 1:24:41call. The perfect phone call.
- 1:24:43The perfect phone call where he said, Hey, we need to look into
- 1:24:47this Burisma stuff, right? Oh, what a bad guy.
- 1:24:52Wow, he's vindicated again. Who would have thought?
- 1:24:58Yep. My apologies gentlemen, I just
- 1:25:01ran a couple miles to get a drink for my boy.
- 1:25:04I cried. Because you were.
- 1:25:07Dead. I'm sorry.
- 1:25:09And and because you were dead. Yeah.
- 1:25:12Sam, how can we do the show? He's dead and so there's going
- 1:25:16to be dead air. Based.
- 1:25:20Shmuly gave, Shmuly gave like a legit.
- 1:25:23A heartfelt eulogy for you and and this time and this time the
- 1:25:30stream didn't get cut. So.
- 1:25:33No, I I was. I was running.
- 1:25:36To go to the store before they closed because he's coming in
- 1:25:40here asking me all I drink is water.
- 1:25:42If he's asking me for water, I'm like, you got anything to drink?
- 1:25:46And he's like, no. And I was like, Oh well, they'll
- 1:25:48understand. I'm sweat.
- 1:25:51Legitimately. I'm like.
- 1:25:54Dad, Dad life. Dad life, folks.
- 1:25:58That's something that you know a lot of people who are
- 1:26:01chronically on the line will never.
- 1:26:05Understand. Well, and I got my make your own
- 1:26:08iced coffee while I was there for the trick, you know.
- 1:26:12Oh, based, very based. And they gave it to me for free
- 1:26:16because I go close to closing time all the time.
- 1:26:19So they just give me free coffee because they're going to throw
- 1:26:21it away anyway. Pro tip.
- 1:26:24Yeah, yeah, that's that's the way to do it.
- 1:26:27So, but anyway, yeah, we've I just saw that.
- 1:26:34You know, this new Tucker interview with one of Biden's
- 1:26:39former partners dropped so. I see.
- 1:26:58Yeah, yeah, I know. I haven't even looked that close
- 1:26:46because it's just like shit we all know, but the motherfuckers
- 1:26:50are all corrupt to the core and and the Justice Department who's
- 1:26:54lead led by Biden doesn't want to do anything about.
- 1:27:00But I mean, at least it's. At least it's out there for the
- 1:27:03normies to see now and you know. Oh, sure.
- 1:27:07Yeah, my, my, the white pill I'm kind of taking from this.
- 1:27:12Is that like, that'll influence people to not vote for Biden?
- 1:27:17It's. Next time.
- 1:27:17You want a white pill? Normies are now interacting with
- 1:27:21Michael Malice content. Yes, yes.
- 1:27:25Roseanne. Yes, that is a huge, huge white
- 1:27:31pill. That's insane, that.
- 1:27:33Welcome to the like, the the, the clownier version of clown
- 1:27:38world where and it's because like I say it's because they
- 1:27:43cancel. These people that kind of had
- 1:27:44normie views in Hollywood. Lot of Gen.
- 1:27:48Xers, if you'll notice among the pattern.
- 1:27:50Among them, the Gen. Xers who like don't fit in with.
- 1:27:53The rest of them seem to just get weeded out right, And it's
- 1:27:56usually on some shit like a vaccine like.
- 1:28:00Besides Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg came out against the vaccine
- 1:28:02too. Whatever you think.
- 1:28:04About the. Vaccine.
- 1:28:05It's interesting that they have that opinion right.
- 1:28:08Yeah, I I I saw that so. Well, he he yelled.
- 1:28:14He was yelling at the servers about of EA being down and
- 1:28:17saying Bill Gates instead of pushing these bullshit vaccines
- 1:28:20on a motherfucker, get your servers up.
- 1:28:24And he he's right. By the way, I support Snoop
- 1:28:26Dogg's message in that video wholeheartedly.
- 1:28:30Sometimes that's me. Get your server up,
- 1:28:33motherfucker. Stop pushing transgenders in my
- 1:28:37face and get your server up. Based, yeah.
- 1:28:44I've been reported and I know that it is true that Hunter and
- 1:28:48his brother were very close to their dad.
- 1:28:50Absolutely. Which I think is great.
- 1:28:53I've got a lot of kids. I'm very close to them.
- 1:28:55Talk to them every day. Never called them on speaker
- 1:28:57during a business meeting. That's weird.
- 1:29:01You've got a lot of kids. You're close to them.
- 1:29:02Do you call them on speaker during business meetings?
- 1:29:06Do I call? I mean, what is that?
- 1:29:09A brown man calling his dad on a speakerphone during a business,
- 1:29:13right. And to be clear, sometimes it
- 1:29:15was the call was coming in and the speaker would go on.
- 1:29:17So it was it's just the presence you have to be, I mean you're
- 1:29:21you understand DC, right? Because it's the, so the power
- 1:29:24to have that. Yep.
- 1:29:27Bingo. It is the big guy, Yeah.
- 1:29:31You take the call when the big guy calls.
- 1:29:34No, even if you're in. The most important meeting there
- 1:29:37is. We all know that the big guys,
- 1:29:40Donald Trump, you know, just add that to the 550 years charges,
- 1:29:44you know what I mean? Might as well.
- 1:29:46Well, I've I've heard an anonymous report that the big
- 1:29:49guy was orange. That would be the best timeline
- 1:29:55is if Hunter Biden was actually corrupt with Donald Trump
- 1:29:58somehow. I don't know about best
- 1:30:02timeline, but it'd. Be It would be funny.
- 1:30:04It would be the funniest timeline.
- 1:30:08They're just fucking, I mean. Oh wait, wait.
- 1:30:10And it means in the system. And the twist is that Don
- 1:30:13Junior's working for Biden. We should pitch this as a film
- 1:30:18and it's like spy versus spy kind of shit.
- 1:30:21Except they're both, like, kind of dumb and stumble into
- 1:30:25everything. Well, I'm actually, I like Dodd
- 1:30:27Junior, but like, sometimes he's kind of tone deaf.
- 1:30:31I'm working. On a well EPT novel like Sam's,
- 1:30:34it's a short story where Donald, well, Commander Cobra because it
- 1:30:39won't write about Trump, wants to win in 2024 and so he has a
- 1:30:44group of podcasters to spread misinformation about the climate
- 1:30:49change lasers from the sun. And so Biden and Biden and Obama
- 1:30:56form a diverse team of TikTok influencers to counter his
- 1:31:01podcaster misinformation. See, Hollywood?
- 1:31:07You could solve the strike. We could scab.
- 1:31:10I'll, I'll write you some films, OK?
- 1:31:14And they'll be good. Like people will like them
- 1:31:16because. 1. Because one, they're going to
- 1:31:18have explosions, right? Two, they're going to have
- 1:31:21titties, right? At least some of them.
- 1:31:25Three, they're going to have like, what else is car chases?
- 1:31:30Montage. Montages.
- 1:31:33Oh my God. Overcoming adversity.
- 1:31:36Yup, A love interest. That's a woman and it's great.
- 1:31:40You know, a male protagonist. What?
- 1:31:44Yeah, it'll be great. You'll make so much money,
- 1:31:48Hollywood. I promise.
- 1:31:50And you can keep the AI cuz I don't mind that.
- 1:31:53I think. I think that's a stupid ask on
- 1:31:55the part of the union anyway. Am I the only one that's wrong?
- 1:31:58I think you're right. What?
- 1:32:00What are they? Are they?
- 1:32:01Are they asking to like get rid of AI now or what?
- 1:32:06For writing, directing, acting, everything.
- 1:32:10Computer animation, all of it. You can't use AI for anything.
- 1:32:14That's that's one of their key demands.
- 1:32:18Well, that's. That's dumb.
- 1:32:20And Andy, they want because they want the A I to stop using
- 1:32:24people's work without their consent or whatever.
- 1:32:29Yeah, that that's that's not how that's not how it works.
- 1:32:35Yeah, but these are literally the writers and actors and shit
- 1:32:39of Hollywood. Now.
- 1:32:41We're not talking about normal, sane people who think normal,
- 1:32:44right? Right, well, but what I'm.
- 1:32:46Saying But it started with the writers, because the writers are
- 1:32:49the easiest to replace with a I, and they know it because their
- 1:32:52jokes are terrible. And even sometimes it does have
- 1:33:10a political message. That like all the shit they're
- 1:32:54writing is terrible. You find, and you guys watch a
- 1:32:57lot more media than me. So maybe I'm skeptical, but you
- 1:33:01find like one or two good things every couple of years.
- 1:33:04That's actually well done and well written, well acted and
- 1:33:07worth your. But I can admit that it's good,
- 1:33:13right? But that's fewer and fewer in
- 1:33:17between. And most of it looks like it's
- 1:33:19written by like a 12 year old who's like, obsessed with
- 1:33:22politics. Because it is.
- 1:33:23It's written by radicals. Matt Well, Max, you haven't, you
- 1:33:27haven't missed a whole lot. You know what I.
- 1:33:30Haven't seen. You know what I haven't seen?
- 1:33:33I haven't seen one single Star Wars movie or TV show or
- 1:33:37anything that wasn't made under Lucasfilm.
- 1:33:42Well, shit, you really. You really haven't missed
- 1:33:45anything. Not the first one, not none of
- 1:33:48them, not the spinoffs, none of it.
- 1:33:51The only thing I have done is I went back and played the game.
- 1:33:55The Old Republic MMO, because the story in that game is pretty
- 1:34:00good and yeah, but the combat sucks and it was boring, so I
- 1:34:04quit. But that takes place before that
- 1:34:07too, and they said that that's not cannon, so I think that's
- 1:34:09acceptable. But yeah, I haven't interacted
- 1:34:11with any of the new Star Wars media at all, because I knew it
- 1:34:15was going to be shit from the beginning.
- 1:34:17Yeah, basically. Basically, like all the good
- 1:34:19Star Wars stuff is like non woke.
- 1:34:22And by non woke I mean it's like.
- 1:34:25It's just like Star Wars. It's not like trying to preach
- 1:34:28like it's. Just neutral.
- 1:34:30Yeah, it's just it's just neutral.
- 1:34:33All the all of the stuff that like we grew up with in the 90s
- 1:34:36and you know early 2000s that was like good with Star Wars,
- 1:34:41all that, all that is non Canon now.
- 1:34:44And yeah, what I don't. Except for the the actual like 6
- 1:34:50films, everything else was non Canon the novels.
- 1:34:54Because, like, people knew where the story went after that.
- 1:34:57They just wanted the movies to be made from the original
- 1:35:00novels. Because obviously the original
- 1:35:02Star Wars was Episode 4. They had written more than one
- 1:35:05novel by that point, right? Right, Yeah.
- 1:35:09So yeah, it it ended with like a whole different thing than what
- 1:35:13they've done, as far as I can tell.
- 1:35:17And that and part of that was because by the time they made
- 1:35:20them, all the actors were too old to do it that way.
- 1:35:23See. Here.
- 1:35:25Here's the thing that would be that.
- 1:35:27That is partly George Lucas's fault, right?
- 1:35:30Yeah, yeah, no, that that is, that's definitely true.
- 1:35:34He he should have done the sequel trilogy that he wanted to
- 1:35:38in the 90s. Instead of the prequel trilogy,
- 1:35:41because the prequel trilogy turned off a lot of the hardcore
- 1:35:45Star Wars fans cuz it was weird. Yeah, it's not.
- 1:35:51I mean, in hindsight, it's not horrible.
- 1:35:54He picked up a lot of young people, right?
- 1:35:56But the older people that grew up with the original trilogy
- 1:35:59fucking hate it. Well and in the in the CGI has
- 1:36:04not like it's not horrible but you can definitely tell like
- 1:36:08it's it's it's like mid 2000s. Me, Mesa loves the CGI.
- 1:36:17Oh God, the, you know, the one thing I, the one thing I do love
- 1:36:21about like about Jar Jar beings is that like supposedly that's
- 1:36:26supposed to be like a racist like character of like a of like
- 1:36:29a of like a roster. I agree, but he's a Sith Lord.
- 1:36:37Yeah, Yes. So you.
- 1:36:40Well, so is my character. In The Old Republic.
- 1:36:42I was a Sith warrior, which is like the Darth Vadery class.
- 1:36:46And I decided very early on that I was just going to murder
- 1:36:49everybody who didn't do exactly what I said.
- 1:36:51And I followed that strategy pretty much faithfully through,
- 1:36:56and it was just like the genocide.
- 1:36:58Oh, maniac, pretty early on. It's a fun experience, actually.
- 1:37:02But no, go back to these idiot writers complaining about Chad
- 1:37:06GBT. I don't think they understand
- 1:37:08that. Like that.
- 1:37:10You still have to have some creativity in order for Chad
- 1:37:14GBT. Than other bots to work properly
- 1:37:18otherwise. To to be fair to them, to kind
- 1:37:21of steal man. The other side of this is they
- 1:37:23are looking at a longer term and when they're talking about it,
- 1:37:26particularly in the media field, like to be fair cuz I've worked
- 1:37:30with people from SAG after before and everything.
- 1:37:33They're not the word like of all the unions, the lefty unions,
- 1:37:36the teachers union is way worse than the fucking actors.
- 1:37:39The actors is just celebrity. So they're fucking pretentious
- 1:37:42by nature. Right.
- 1:37:43But if you can get past that, what their point is, is that,
- 1:37:46especially the writers, is that the longterm implication of this
- 1:37:49is that humans will eventually be taken out of the algorithm
- 1:37:54entirely because it's taking their jokes and learning from it
- 1:37:57and building upon them, and eventually will be better than
- 1:38:00them. And that's what they're
- 1:38:01concerned about. Sure.
- 1:38:04So I I don't want to just completely dismiss it as like,
- 1:38:07you know, simple because because like, right now, no, you're
- 1:38:11right. You do need a human input to
- 1:38:13make it work. But what they're saying is how
- 1:38:16long is that the case for? Because this technology
- 1:38:19basically just came out available to the public as far
- 1:38:22as most of the public is aware. Obviously we know that's not
- 1:38:25true because we even talking to Kurt Doolittle about this where
- 1:38:29they had this, these kind of algorithms in the 80s, but they
- 1:38:31just didn't have the computing power.
- 1:38:34But yeah, to most people this came out of like left field,
- 1:38:38like last week. You know what I mean?
- 1:38:40A lot of, a lot of people have kind of been a lot of people
- 1:38:45have listened to the curt do little interview on this have
- 1:38:48come in shock because Kurt's thing was basically to
- 1:38:53paraphrase is Chad GB T is rather unremarkable in his in
- 1:39:00his you know words but but then I always have to remind people.
- 1:39:06That's coming from a 40 year veteran of the industry, right?
- 1:39:10Yeah, he he was like he said he was working with a I stuff that
- 1:39:15could do the same thing. Yeah, many, many years before
- 1:39:18this is available. And like me, like I said, I've
- 1:39:21been into computer science my whole life and it's a passion,
- 1:39:26right? So you know about these things.
- 1:39:28But like the normal people, they don't understand what ChatGPT is
- 1:39:32really doing it it seems to. Smart to be just a normal
- 1:39:36computer like they've used their whole life, like they have a
- 1:39:38smartphone attached. To their hip.
- 1:39:41It feels, it feels like a huge jump in technology to the
- 1:39:44average baseline consumer and a lot of them are scared about it.
- 1:39:48Yeah. Well.
- 1:39:50That's fair. Well, my point being though,
- 1:39:52like is yeah, did ChatGPT help me write this book, Shadows of
- 1:39:59Deception. That you totally should buy on
- 1:40:03Amazon to chat GB T help me, sure, but did it write the whole
- 1:40:08whole thing? No.
- 1:40:10But but what if it? What if this is what they're
- 1:40:12kind of talking about? To give a perfect example, what
- 1:40:15if after you write two or three of these chat GB T's like, you
- 1:40:18know what? I can just write another one and
- 1:40:22and I'm going to publish it because that's what they're,
- 1:40:27that's what they're talking about.
- 1:40:29Yeah, I mean. I don't need your input anymore.
- 1:40:35I understand the style that you write in, so I can just emulate
- 1:40:38it. So I'm just going to write
- 1:40:39another one. I'm going to use your main
- 1:40:41character because I helped write it.
- 1:40:44That's part of the problem they're talking about.
- 1:40:45Like the Creative Commons style, licensing can run into a problem
- 1:40:50in terms of DMCA and and copyright claim, and that's
- 1:40:53because the DMCA was written. Around the Millennium by a bunch
- 1:40:58of boomers then who didn't even understand the Internet, let
- 1:41:00alone what it would become. And so the DMCA is way outdated
- 1:41:04to handle a lot of this shit, but we are where we are and so
- 1:41:08you could run into this problem. And so I don't want to downplay
- 1:41:11the SAG Afters side on a I it's actually that that's their most
- 1:41:16well thought out position, although I think they're taking
- 1:41:19a fairly extreme stance on it that the the movie studio can't
- 1:41:22possibly accept those terms, yeah.
- 1:41:26Not that one, any other term, whatever.
- 1:41:28I don't care if they have to pay out a lot of money, if the big
- 1:41:31rich movie studio have to pay the actors in in the key groups
- 1:41:34more money. I don't.
- 1:41:35I'm not going to cry for any of them, right?
- 1:41:37And I'm not crying for any of these people for being out of
- 1:41:39work either, because it's a strike.
- 1:41:41You choose to be out of work. Yeah.
- 1:41:45No, no, exactly. And I'd be happy to skid like I
- 1:41:48say the the staff for Right to Offend Media is available
- 1:41:51anytime Hollywood movie studio you call Paramount.
- 1:41:54You call Warner Brothers. We'll get right on it.
- 1:41:57We'll write you some fire material.
- 1:41:59I promise you people will watch it.
- 1:42:01I will write you a Stoner buddy comedy, right?
- 1:42:05We we we can write you a fucking whatever, whatever, whatever.
- 1:42:09And we'll use a I to do it. So fuck those people and their
- 1:42:12pretentious lifestyles that require like a $6,000,000
- 1:42:16mansion and then Madonna's crying during COVID in a bath of
- 1:42:20rose petals. Like we're all the same.
- 1:42:22Because COVID. Fuck all these.
- 1:42:25People listen. People.
- 1:42:28People are worried about like, Oh my God, what comes after Tom
- 1:42:32Cruise is done with what happens after the American, what happens
- 1:42:37after the Mission Impossible franchise comes to an end.
- 1:42:44You know, I've I've, I'll give people the options.
- 1:42:49I'll give people the movie rights to to this book as long
- 1:42:52as I got, as long as I get a part in it.
- 1:42:58Furthermore, we can make Shmuley one of the one of the main
- 1:43:04actors to play to play one my career.
- 1:43:10Buy back from Swami? Well, that's that's the thing.
- 1:43:15It's not as hard to write the direct that they write as.
- 1:43:18It is to like because, like, I tend to like a higher form of
- 1:43:21art. I guess I'm a bit snobbish
- 1:43:23myself and like what they write is dumb if I go back and watch.
- 1:43:26This is why I'm such a fucking snob about like new media is
- 1:43:31because when I go back and watch a film from the 50s and 60s,
- 1:43:34it's written like I'm an adult and they're an adult.
- 1:43:37And that's not how anything is written anymore.
- 1:43:40It's written for children. I read books, you know, I play
- 1:43:43video games. You know what?
- 1:43:44Most video games are written for adults.
- 1:43:48They have a higher reading at level because you know what?
- 1:43:50There's a lot of reading in a lot of video games.
- 1:43:52Yeah, No. Average game players.
- 1:43:55A bit more used to that. Same Same is true for comic
- 1:43:59books too. Like a lot of the a lot of the
- 1:44:02big vocabulary words I learned as a kid, I learned.
- 1:44:07Dude, comic books. And that's the sad thing, the
- 1:44:10state that the comic book industry is in, because I grew
- 1:44:13up on Marvel specifically, like I was a Marvel fanboy.
- 1:44:16I had. I had the whole run of the
- 1:44:19original Ghost Rider. I had like and that was like a
- 1:44:23obsession. So that movie.
- 1:44:25God, that movie. Oh yeah.
- 1:44:28Should have never happened. That's my favorite dude because,
- 1:44:31well, he's he's a guy that rides a motorcycle with a flaming
- 1:44:35fucking skull. It beats people with a chain.
- 1:44:38What is more and he's because he's made a deal with the devil
- 1:44:41and he's cursed. That is so badass.
- 1:44:44That is so 90s. That is so quintessentially like
- 1:44:47metal that he can't help but like, even above Spiderman.
- 1:44:51I loved Ghost Rider and then they butchered.
- 1:44:54They. Look what you did to my boy.
- 1:44:57Yeah, no, they I mean, listen, I was, I was in that same camp
- 1:45:03with Daredevil for a long ass time.
- 1:45:06Now granted, Netflix. Did they've done right by
- 1:45:10Daredevil? They never done right by Ghost
- 1:45:12Rider. Well, Netflix did right by
- 1:45:17Ghost. Netflix did right by Daredevil.
- 1:45:20But then Disney fucked it up by buying the rights to to those
- 1:45:27so. But yeah, I had.
- 1:45:30That's, you know, I was big into reading always, but comic books
- 1:45:34jumped out at me, You know, I get them for like $0.70 at the
- 1:45:38store when they'd come out and it would be mostly Marvel.
- 1:45:41You know, and that's what we had.
- 1:45:43And then we collected the comic book trading cards that came out
- 1:45:46in the early 90s. And I had a whole set.
- 1:45:48I had all of them. Yeah, I have.
- 1:45:52I have a few of those around here too.
- 1:45:54In in the, in the boxes behind me.
- 1:45:58So yeah. That shit.
- 1:45:59Those shits were dope, Especially they.
- 1:46:01They had like the special series that was like Wolverine verses
- 1:46:04and it was all his greatest battles.
- 1:46:06Yeah, and obviously Wolverine was the hot shit at the time
- 1:46:09because the X-Men series was on, which was also well done.
- 1:46:13And if you go back and watch X-Men the Animated series or
- 1:46:16Spiderman the animated series from the 90s, another thing
- 1:46:19you'll find is they may not talk to you like you're an adult, but
- 1:46:22they talk to you like you're a preteen, you know?
- 1:46:24Nowadays, everything, even the adult movies, talk to you like
- 1:46:27you're a child. Yeah.
- 1:46:29No, the. Yeah, no, the, the.
- 1:46:31I've actually been rewatching the 90s Spiderman cartoon
- 1:46:35because that's what I grew up with.
- 1:46:36And it's like, wow, even though this was written for.
- 1:46:40Seven. It assumes you're a kid, but not
- 1:46:42a stupid kid, right? And that's because Stan Lee had
- 1:46:46a hand in it, and that's how he was.
- 1:46:47He used those big words on purpose to get kids talk.
- 1:46:51Like the old Spiderman thing was like every every little thing
- 1:46:54about Spiderman, if you look into Stanley about it was
- 1:46:57intentional, right? Yeah, to be an.
- 1:47:01Example for children, I read his, I read his autobiography,
- 1:47:07Excelsior, back when I was back when I was in high school.
- 1:47:11Great read. I mean it's, it's, it's probably
- 1:47:15like 10 or 12 years old now, but still, you know, very.
- 1:47:19Well, but look at but look at children's content today.
- 1:47:22Did the is the thoughtfulness put in?
- 1:47:24I don't think it is. I watched some of it.
- 1:47:26I screened that shit for my son. He asks for some shit, some
- 1:47:31shit. The funny one is he was asking
- 1:47:33for there's a Goosebumps video game on Xbox and it was popping
- 1:47:37up in his feed as an ad. And I have a thing.
- 1:47:41It's all family setting. He can't just buy anything,
- 1:47:43right? You have to ask and it comes up
- 1:47:45and I was like, buddy, we have that on disc, so I put it in for
- 1:47:49him. He played for like 5 minutes and
- 1:47:51he was like dad, it's too scary. I was like, yeah, and you want
- 1:47:56to be to waste 40 bucks on a thing we already had that.
- 1:47:58You don't even want to play. Come on now, yeah.
- 1:48:02But that's you know, I don't know new new media for children
- 1:48:07is just there's most of it is just shit out with the first
- 1:48:11keywords that can hit the algorithm and get their metrics
- 1:48:14up. That's what even the movies,
- 1:48:17they're looking for me moments. They're making these movies.
- 1:48:21Just a complete meme they've literally made like The Emoji
- 1:48:23Movie and shit. It's just there's nothing left.
- 1:48:28There's nothing that hasn't been done and all they do is remakes
- 1:48:31and remasters. And so it's not so weird for me
- 1:48:34to say I only watch older content and like I keep up with
- 1:48:38wrestling in in that. And when I say that, it means I
- 1:48:41watch the occasional clip from a A W and I watch the pay per
- 1:48:45views of WWE Because they're free.
- 1:48:49Yeah. With summer slams coming up,
- 1:48:52that's going to be fun. And oh, did you see?
- 1:48:56Speaking of which, you're you kind of follow A A W Did you see
- 1:48:59Kenny Omega get dropped on his fucking head?
- 1:49:02Oh yeah, that that was in the door that popped up in my feet a
- 1:49:06a bunch of times, dude. Yeah.
- 1:49:10I I I don't like watching spots like that and wrestling like I I
- 1:49:14watched a lot of hardcore when I was young because I was a
- 1:49:16teenager, you know, ECW was hot. All that kind of shit.
- 1:49:20But I look back now, man, I ain't got the stomach for it.
- 1:49:23And I the the reason I choose WWE is I can watch it with my
- 1:49:26kid most of the time. Because even if there's
- 1:49:28something really bad like Brock Lesnar bloodies somebody up or
- 1:49:32whatever, it all makes sense. It's not kind of hokey.
- 1:49:37And like a A W is just not for kids.
- 1:49:39The audience swears on a W right how we're doing on time.
- 1:49:49Well, you. I was worried you guys were
- 1:49:51going to be off the air before I got back.
- 1:49:54I'm good. I mean, you got to talk about
- 1:49:57the Barbie movie, man, what did? I just genuinely filled me with
- 1:50:03energy. I I had a a feminist that was
- 1:50:06triggered about me reclaiming the film in her words.
- 1:50:12Which was just hilarious. I mean, it's just funny.
- 1:50:14A grown person legitimately upset that I'm reclaiming.
- 1:50:20Legitimately upset what somebody who liked the film thinks of it.
- 1:50:25Yes. That this is what I don't get.
- 1:50:27It's the Barbie movie, bro. I'm not the target demographic.
- 1:50:31I might, I might give it a watch one day eventually, just because
- 1:50:34of your thing, because it'll be a funny meme.
- 1:50:36But like, I wasn't upset about it.
- 1:50:39And and it's like the Disney stuff.
- 1:50:41They're remaking their old classics.
- 1:50:42It's like, yeah, they're they're kicking their big, they're
- 1:50:45kicking Disney adults in the nuts with these films.
- 1:50:49And Disney? Disney adults hold up their
- 1:50:51operation if they didn't realize it.
- 1:50:55Yeah, I know. It's Snow White and the seven
- 1:50:58diverse magical people is not going over the way that they
- 1:51:02wanted it to and and The funny thing is they they they based
- 1:51:06the not having dwarfs thing. Almost entirely on Peter
- 1:51:09Dinklage's comments about it. And he's like the woke guy, but
- 1:51:12every other major little person actor, whether they like to be
- 1:51:16called midgets or dwarves or or little people, you know, I want
- 1:51:20to include all of them. But everyone I've seen,
- 1:51:23including fucking Hornswaggle, was the first one.
- 1:51:26He spoke out about it really early on.
- 1:51:28Is saying like you're cutting us off.
- 1:51:30You're closing the door behind you, motherfucker.
- 1:51:32Yeah, And and let and let's be real these.
- 1:51:35Are some of the few jobs that we can get with our particular set
- 1:51:38of disabilities Where and. And it's tough, man.
- 1:51:41Hey I'm tall so when I go out in public instantly people will
- 1:51:46look at me. You can talk about the hair and
- 1:51:49the beard, but like before that I was a clean shaving baby face
- 1:51:52at one point in my life and. I still got it.
- 1:51:56Because you're just tall, right? And it's the same thing for
- 1:51:58them. When they go out in public, it's
- 1:52:00hard. And they have certain
- 1:52:02disabilities, things they can't do, they can't lift stuff,
- 1:52:05whatever. Each person's individual.
- 1:52:08But a one thing they've always been able to do is work in
- 1:52:10entertainment. Back in the days, yes, it was
- 1:52:12called the freak show, but you know what A lot of them will
- 1:52:15say? That they'd rather have a job at
- 1:52:16the freak show than no job at all?
- 1:52:19Yeah, the, I mean. But especially acting.
- 1:52:25You know, good gigs, like who? All of them are.
- 1:52:27Like I'd love to play a dwarf in Snow White.
- 1:52:31That would be an honor. I saw Wee Man came out the other
- 1:52:33day and said that that he was like, what the fuck?
- 1:52:37You know these they're thinking about?
- 1:52:39Because there's only so many little people actors, right?
- 1:52:42And so they probably talk on occasion.
- 1:52:44Well, yeah, I mean they they do and what what I was in the same
- 1:52:48regard. Except maybe to Peter Dink.
- 1:52:50Maybe he's not in the club right, well, well, so.
- 1:52:54I can. I can understand that with how
- 1:52:55much of an asshole he comes off. Well, a lot of them are mad at
- 1:52:59Peter Dinklage because let's face it, Peter Dinklage is
- 1:53:04famous for one thing and one thing only, and that is game of.
- 1:53:10Thrones. Exactly.
- 1:53:11And he was picked. He was picked because of that.
- 1:53:14He wasn't picked because of his acting.
- 1:53:16I know people will say he's a good actor.
- 1:53:18I only know him through Destiny, and I know that they removed his
- 1:53:22voice acting because he phoned it in so badly.
- 1:53:25Yeah, no, he. I mean, look, he is he.
- 1:53:30Literally replaced all of his voice acting with somebody else
- 1:53:34because it was so bad. So that's all I know about
- 1:53:37Peter. And and then he said this and
- 1:53:39all these guys are saying, I know Horn Swungle was the first
- 1:53:41one to come out and say it. And I like, I was talking to him
- 1:53:44about it on Twitter. This was like almost a year ago
- 1:53:47now. And he was like, look, you're
- 1:53:49cutting off a whole community of people who are like you who are
- 1:53:53just trying to get work from six to seven figure jobs.
- 1:53:57That will have them immortalized on film in one of the most
- 1:54:00classic stories in like, American media ever, forever.
- 1:54:05Right. As any children's movie, you're
- 1:54:08cutting them off from something that's like the ultimate role.
- 1:54:11If you're a dwarf, yeah. To be in Snow White and play
- 1:54:16Doc, Imagine playing like Sleepy.
- 1:54:18Imagine being dopey. That's your career.
- 1:54:20That could make you forever, yeah.
- 1:54:22And and with it being and and with it being Disney, you you
- 1:54:26know that they're not going to do it like offensively or
- 1:54:29anything like that either. Well, apparently they are.
- 1:54:32Because there's the seven, there's this, there's one dwarf,
- 1:54:35and then there's the six diverse enchanted people to see.
- 1:54:39To me, to me, that seems more offensive than.
- 1:54:44That's what a lot of people are saying, even left.
- 1:54:47But it's so shoehorned that you're kind of fucking so you.
- 1:54:52If DWARF was to denote them as, this is what's different about
- 1:54:55them. This is what makes them other.
- 1:54:57You're just replacing that with diversity.
- 1:54:59Aren't you supposed to be normalizing diversity instead of
- 1:55:02saying they're the other? Well, so, So what?
- 1:55:05These always do this thing with me, Max, where where they say,
- 1:55:10oh Sam, you're differently abled and I'm like what the fuck does?
- 1:55:18Why do you get a pussyfoot around it?
- 1:55:20You know? Well, it well, it's like, OK,
- 1:55:23differently abled, that could mean a bunch of shit, right?
- 1:55:26Well, it's like. It's like, OK, but compared to a
- 1:55:29person who can't do or who doesn't have any disability at
- 1:55:33all, right? What can they not do that you
- 1:55:36can? Because that would be
- 1:55:37differently abled, right? You have a different ability
- 1:55:40that they don't have. That's why it's a stupid thing
- 1:55:43to say. Yeah, they well, that's what
- 1:55:45I'm. Saying though you're.
- 1:55:47You know, you're disabled, You're lacking an ability that
- 1:55:50other people have. That's what I mean.
- 1:55:52That's why it's not an offensive term.
- 1:55:54It's technical. It goes back to Latin, for
- 1:55:57fuck's sake. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:56:01No the. Root word diss.
- 1:56:03You know add abled. Yeah it it does.
- 1:56:07And I I mean and I mean I've I've heard it so much that it
- 1:56:10doesn't. It doesn't offend me because it
- 1:56:13just it is what it is. What does it say in the Bible,
- 1:56:17Sam Cripple? Yeah, the Bible said.
- 1:56:20That's why I never had a problem with you joking about that or
- 1:56:23you guys saying that, because that would make sense.
- 1:56:25It says it in the fucking Bible. And.
- 1:56:27Leprosy is on the rise in our state so.
- 1:56:31For fuck's. Sake Florida man got leprosy
- 1:56:34now. That's why Sam's in a
- 1:56:38wheelchair. Hey, hey, if you got left.
- 1:56:42No, no, no, that's that's fake news.
- 1:56:45If you got, if you got leprosy, at least Gators don't want to
- 1:56:48eat you, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:56:49Maybe it's a trade off. Oh yeah, that.
- 1:56:51That's they're just wow, They're just leveling up, gaining that
- 1:56:54Gator immunity. Right.
- 1:56:55You know, like. Fall out.
- 1:56:57Fucking fall out. Yeah.
- 1:57:00That video of the hillbilly with the moonshine, and he's got the
- 1:57:02snake and he's like, bite me. He won't bite me because I got
- 1:57:06the best moonshine. I would love if I had leprosy.
- 1:57:09I'd do the same thing with alligators.
- 1:57:11Like, he's too chicken shit to bite me because I got the
- 1:57:14leprosy. Just running out there.
- 1:57:20With like raw chicken rubbing it on my chest.
- 1:57:22Bite my boy. Peak Peak.
- 1:57:26Florida Optics spoke. Him in the eye.
- 1:57:30So so Max we actually have some fan mail or I don't even I don't
- 1:57:39know if it's necessarily fan mail but two weeks ago you and I
- 1:57:44want you and I went pretty hard on Andrew Tate criticizing him
- 1:57:49I. Challenged him to a fight.
- 1:57:52Yes, I stand by that. And so I guess one of his.
- 1:57:58Fucking you. Up, bro.
- 1:58:00I guess one of his. Talking to you tape you fucking
- 1:58:03Lily livered bitch. I guess one of his cobra heads
- 1:58:07or whatever his fan club is called.
- 1:58:10Cool. What do they got to say?
- 1:58:14They're going to try and sound smart, or they Are they really
- 1:58:17angry? Or are they trying to sound
- 1:58:18smart? Because they usually open up
- 1:58:20trying to sound smart. Yeah.
- 1:58:21Something something along the lines of, well, you guys
- 1:58:24completely misunderstand what Tay is.
- 1:58:28Tay is about. He's actually not.
- 1:58:31He's actually not about being. He's actually not like literally
- 1:58:35trying to make men exceptional. Which by the way, yes, he is.
- 1:58:39I already heard him say that, so.
- 1:58:44I don't know. Everything I heard.
- 1:58:46He's a fucking shit talking punk.
- 1:58:49That's that's why I saw analysis of them.
- 1:58:51I don't need to go into detail about his intellectualism or
- 1:58:54what his message is. He's a shit talking punk that's
- 1:58:57leading men into this toxic bullshit that's going to get
- 1:59:00them. Yeah, you might get laid, right?
- 1:59:02It's it's that same bullshit pick up art of shit we've been
- 1:59:05seeing for years. It might get you laid, but
- 1:59:07anyway, ain't going to feel fulfilled and you're never going
- 1:59:09to be him because he's at the top of the pyramid in the scheme
- 1:59:13that you're in, bro. You're at the bottom.
- 1:59:15Maybe some pussy runs down the pyramid to you, but you can get
- 1:59:18it on your own. You didn't.
- 1:59:19You don't need his masculinity to rub off on you.
- 1:59:23That's gay. You don't need any man's
- 1:59:25masculinity running off on you. You need to find it inside
- 1:59:28yourself, bro. You're a king.
- 1:59:32You're a king. Act like it.
- 1:59:34But you don't need him. You don't need me.
- 1:59:38You're put on this earth. You're the king of your own
- 1:59:40fucking domain. Have some dignity.
- 1:59:42Have some self respect. That's how you fucking.
- 1:59:45Act like a man. I don't see him having any of
- 1:59:48that shit. He doesn't have dignity.
- 1:59:50What fucking dignity? Come on, He might respect
- 1:59:54himself, but it's it's this inflated narcissistic ego
- 1:59:57bullshit that's premised on you clicking like on his video.
- 2:00:01Because if you stopped, he wouldn't like himself so much.
- 2:00:03He'd probably shoot himself in the head like these faggots
- 2:00:05usually do. You want to prop him up from the
- 2:00:08bottom of his pyramid scheme? By all means, bro, But that
- 2:00:10column is drizzling down off the top of the pyramid.
- 2:00:13He's coming right in your mouth. Well, and also the.
- 2:00:18Maybe that'll make you a man, huh?
- 2:00:20Maybe you'll get a little tea in there.
- 2:00:24One also the fact that he the fact that he uses term, the fact
- 2:00:29that he uses terms like the Matrix and red pills like ooh,
- 2:00:35that's listen, the Matrix and red pills like that's been part
- 2:00:39of the vernacular for a decade. While before he was around.
- 2:00:44Yeah, well before he was around. Look, he can, he can talk some
- 2:00:49kids and it may be into a better lifestyle than they're leading,
- 2:00:53I guess, But I don't see what he's promoting as a great life.
- 2:00:57I'm not promoting that. And I don't think that that's
- 2:01:00masculine at all. I think it's feminine.
- 2:01:02I think it's peacocking. I think it's covering up for the
- 2:01:05insecurity that you fucking feel a real like.
- 2:01:10I I was going to quote the ghetto boys, but it includes a
- 2:01:12few end bombs. But a real gangsta ass
- 2:01:15motherfucker doesn't doesn't talk much because the real
- 2:01:21gangsta ass motherfucker doesn't flex nuts because the real
- 2:01:25gangsta ass motherfucker knows he got them right.
- 2:01:29Right. You ain't got to flex nuts, bro.
- 2:01:33Any motherfucker flexing nuts or another thing he does is he
- 2:01:36counts other men's money. That's woman shit.
- 2:01:39Bro, that's woman shit. I ain't got to look at how much
- 2:01:42money a motherfucker has to know his worth as a man.
- 2:01:45I see how he comes at me. I see the respect that he has or
- 2:01:48doesn't have. I see how he carries himself and
- 2:01:49treats other people. So you want to flex nuts all
- 2:01:53day? You think it impresses the
- 2:01:55fucking Broads? Yeah, it impresses gold diggers.
- 2:01:58And then he catches these gold diggers in a net.
- 2:02:01And maybe it's human trafficking, maybe it's not
- 2:02:03because depending upon the law in the country he's in.
- 2:02:06And I'm not a legal expert in our country, little on that one.
- 2:02:09But what I do know is, is that is I I won't.
- 2:02:13No, that's not the masculinity that I would work for.
- 2:02:16Or drop shipping scams like whatever.
- 2:02:19Even if it even if it's not illegal.
- 2:02:22Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't
- 2:02:26mean it's not suspect. If you read, if you read the
- 2:02:29Bible, if you're a follower of the fucking Christ, it's not a
- 2:02:32lifestyle you would lead. He says a lot.
- 2:02:35Which he's not, by the way. The stuff that I agree with him
- 2:02:38on is usually the most, like, obvious shit to people who
- 2:02:44aren't, like, deeply lost, like single, raised by single mothers
- 2:02:49in like a blue state in their zoomers.
- 2:02:52And they're just lost. Soy boys.
- 2:02:55And the way he does. It I understand how he got to
- 2:02:58him, right? Because Joe Rogan and shit,
- 2:03:00right. He gets on Joe Rogan and there's
- 2:03:02these guys exactly like you just described.
- 2:03:04And they hear some of the things he's saying about women because
- 2:03:07that's the thing. Some of the things the pickup
- 2:03:09artists say about women are true, but one, they kind of
- 2:03:12exclude that they make it out to all women, right?
- 2:03:15And then two, a good woman isn't going to respond to the shit
- 2:03:20they're teaching you. You're not going to find a good
- 2:03:21woman that way. You're going to find a whore.
- 2:03:23You're going to find a gold digger.
- 2:03:25You're going to find a bitch that's out to get you before you
- 2:03:27win. Her.
- 2:03:28When he does that, Max, it's like he says it in the most
- 2:03:30provocative way imaginable. Yes.
- 2:03:33And this triggers the left. And so because of this, every
- 2:03:36time he rebels. Every time he would say
- 2:03:40anything, there would be a controversy about it and this
- 2:03:42propelled him forward. However, the problem that I see
- 2:03:47that the left has is that. Andrew Tate kind of adopts most
- 2:03:53of their strategies. Andrew Tate, the thing that he
- 2:03:57doesn't do is, like, really try to overturn the system.
- 2:04:00He's just like, hey, how about you use the system to fuck each
- 2:04:05other over? How about instead of overturning
- 2:04:07the sexual revolution and trying to go back to the past or
- 2:04:10whatever, how about you just treat women who are promiscuous
- 2:04:15as useless and abuse them, basically.
- 2:04:18And then if you find a good woman, then keep her.
- 2:04:22Why don't you just like, seek status and signal to others that
- 2:04:27you have that status in order to gain things, which is
- 2:04:30fundamentally, fundamentally, imminently reasonable to do
- 2:04:35given all of the policies and culture that has been?
- 2:04:40Built, but it's all but it's all built on a fucking hole that
- 2:04:44you're filling. That's not that's not fulfilling
- 2:04:47and and it might work and people can live that way.
- 2:04:51That's the thing. There's a there's a subset of
- 2:04:53people that can live this unfulfilling lifestyle and be
- 2:04:56perfectly happy with it. But most of you can't.
- 2:04:59That's why you want a woman. Most of you don't want a whore
- 2:05:02because you just go pay for one. You want a GF, right?
- 2:05:05You want to Ideal for 4 Chan memes style.
- 2:05:09For triggered, they're triggered by Andrew Tate for the same
- 2:05:12reason that they're triggered that I like the Barbie movie.
- 2:05:15It's wait, no, not like that. Yeah, exactly.
- 2:05:19Which is fine. Look, I'm not saying he should
- 2:05:21just be silenced. I think he should talk.
- 2:05:23But I think it's fair to push back against his brand and
- 2:05:26masculinity with the one that I know and believe in
- 2:05:29wholeheartedly. Mine is based on reading the
- 2:05:32classics. Mine is based on Western
- 2:05:35civilization. I had to learn mine because I
- 2:05:37actually didn't have a proper father, right.
- 2:05:40But what I I feel I'm proud of myself.
- 2:05:44I might not have as much money as him, but again, he said
- 2:05:46nobody can criticize them without saying they'll fight
- 2:05:48them. So I say I'll fight them, right?
- 2:05:51Because I know as a man, even if I fucking lose, if I fought a
- 2:05:55professional fucking fighter, right?
- 2:05:57As a man, I can hold my fucking head up high.
- 2:06:00And I also know that I'm bigger than him.
- 2:06:01And I'm actually confident I could win that fight because I'm
- 2:06:05bigger than most people. Because I'm a fucking giant.
- 2:06:08And you would grab him. Of course he tried to box me.
- 2:06:11That's the stupidest thing you could do.
- 2:06:13I got these long fucking arms. But but no, I you and I aren't.
- 2:06:18Don't disagree. And I wasn't really defending
- 2:06:21him in any sense. No, I know you.
- 2:06:22I know you weren't. I'm just making my.
- 2:06:24Agree with him I I actually my critique of him to I'm not going
- 2:06:30to attack him on the points that like most people would expect me
- 2:06:34to attack him being sort of a conservative just because I
- 2:06:37don't really see the need to do so.
- 2:06:40But the fact of the matter is, is that I disagree with him on
- 2:06:43the same shit that I disagree with the left on.
- 2:06:45It's a repercussion of the sexual revolution.
- 2:06:47I kind of view him as like a comeuppance for some of these
- 2:06:52people. It's like, what did you expect?
- 2:06:54Yeah, now that 20 year old guy is going to be like, yeah, why
- 2:06:57don't I just manipulate women to get what I want?
- 2:06:59Why don't I just try to? And a lot of people see him that
- 2:07:02way, as like if they don't even care.
- 2:07:04The only reason I push back is because I looked at the
- 2:07:06Longview. Of imagine a world where all the
- 2:07:09young men adopt his philosophy. I think it would be a detestable
- 2:07:12world that I wouldn't want to live in because I think he's a
- 2:07:16detestable person. So I I'm going to push back for
- 2:07:19that reason, and I know a lot of.
- 2:07:20People on the. Don't want to because he does
- 2:07:23piss the left off and he pushes the right buttons.
- 2:07:26But I I just like yeah. And and I have to.
- 2:07:29I literally have to. Just because of the way he is
- 2:07:32throwing that. Yes.
- 2:07:33Right. Well, Well, let me also let me.
- 2:07:35Let me let me. Set it up, Tate.
- 2:07:37You bitch. No.
- 2:07:39Look, look, we have to let the Tate revolution happens.
- 2:07:43Then when it fails, inevitably. When it fails, inevitably.
- 2:07:47And then the men are lost again. Then we'll pick up the pieces.
- 2:07:50No, no, no. We're going to.
- 2:07:52We're in a fight, me and him in a cage, One on. 1 Let me also
- 2:07:58just. And I'm going to win.
- 2:07:59I'm going to win. And that's the declaration of
- 2:08:02the end of the Tate revolution. Let me let me also just say
- 2:08:05this. Just like I am now.
- 2:08:07I'm not even going to, I'm not even going to train like as a
- 2:08:09fighter because I've been trained as a fighter my whole
- 2:08:11life. I'm going to keep running and
- 2:08:13lose some weight, but not too much, right?
- 2:08:15Because that's my fucking advantage, because I could pick
- 2:08:17a guy like him up and throw him. Let me it's.
- 2:08:21Hard to get close to a punch with a guy that's like.
- 2:08:25You got long arms and knows how to grapple.
- 2:08:27Let me just say this though, to the shmoy's point, I don't think
- 2:08:30Andrew Tay actually wants the sexual revolution overturned.
- 2:08:34I don't think he wants to fight me either.
- 2:08:37No, I'm not saying that he wants to.
- 2:08:38What I'm saying is that he wants to well, because he wants to do
- 2:08:43his own thing, but his own thing is a perpetuation of it.
- 2:08:47But the the left doesn't like it.
- 2:08:49And when these young men finally reached the point that they're
- 2:08:52trying to achieve? They're going to feel unhappy
- 2:08:56and lost just like they did before.
- 2:08:59And that's when you come in and say actually see, you didn't
- 2:09:02rebel against that, You didn't really part of it.
- 2:09:06There's a deeper part of the Matrix.
- 2:09:08You're still within to borrow their methodology, right?
- 2:09:12But what? But what?
- 2:09:13But what what I'm saying to you is if you is, I don't think
- 2:09:17Andrew Tate actually wants young men to better their own lives
- 2:09:21because if they do, doesn't care the job.
- 2:09:25Yeah, he's at the, Like I say, he's at the top of the pyramid
- 2:09:28and you're drinking his manhood. Right, if you're watching.
- 2:09:31His content. That's what you're fucking
- 2:09:33doing. Because that's all he's
- 2:09:34preaching about. This is how to be like me.
- 2:09:36Oh yeah, jacking himself off. I've seen his fucking videos.
- 2:09:40I mean. He jacks off how fucking grey he
- 2:09:43is all in your fucking face hole and you think you have this
- 2:09:47parasocial relationship with this homo and you fucking?
- 2:09:51You fucking want to be as big like fight me, Tate?
- 2:09:54I agree. I agree with all of that.
- 2:09:56But like the the sort of like college age potential, like frat
- 2:10:01boy guy who's like wow man, I'm being red pilled, I'm getting
- 2:10:04out of the Matrix. Like we can tell them not to go
- 2:10:07bang the dumb Broads around them and not to lift a bunch of
- 2:10:12weights to get. Abs or whatever.
- 2:10:14Like we we can. We can say any of the stuff.
- 2:10:17Don't chase material possessions, work on yourself,
- 2:10:20whatever. But like really?
- 2:10:21Do we blame them in the current world for doing those things?
- 2:10:24I think not, no. I don't.
- 2:10:27I think it's imminently reasonable given the incentive
- 2:10:30structure around them. I think all of the incentives
- 2:10:33are bad. I think all the incentives are
- 2:10:36flawed and that's why people are doing this stuff.
- 2:10:38And ultimately, I'm just holding on, you know, I'm just a relic
- 2:10:42of an older time is what it is. I don't.
- 2:10:44I don't. I don't.
- 2:10:45I don't blame the kids. But.
- 2:10:47And it's funny because I'm a rebel against the culture of
- 2:10:49myself, right? Like I wanted to talk about if
- 2:10:53we could vaping at some point because I had a thing about
- 2:10:56that, but like. But like, I'm a I'm a fucking
- 2:10:59music guy. I'm a rock'n'roll guy, right?
- 2:11:02Like, I was around that scene. That's what I did.
- 2:11:04It was a hobby. It was a job.
- 2:11:06It was all of the above. And like, that's why I got into
- 2:11:09smoking, right, which is why that brings in the vaping thing.
- 2:11:13But like, I had not the most conservative, familyfriendly
- 2:11:17values for my time. That's why I coined the term
- 2:11:21like Kid Rock conservative because there's a there's a lot
- 2:11:24of motherfuckers in my age bracket fall into this category.
- 2:11:28Of we're a bit rough around the edges for what you think of the
- 2:11:30normal GOP. And Trump hits those fucking
- 2:11:33people. He makes them hard because
- 2:11:36they're like Americana as far. That's what America white
- 2:11:38America is now to a large degree, right?
- 2:11:42It's this. It's this entity that is and for
- 2:11:49better or for worse. And a lot of them like, they
- 2:11:51really aren't racist because they grew up around other
- 2:11:53people, so they don't feel that strongly about that particular
- 2:11:56topic. They do feel strongly about
- 2:11:58immigration, but they're afraid to get called racist.
- 2:12:00This is the this is the climate that Trump wrote into on because
- 2:12:04he was the only one to talk about it.
- 2:12:06And it's only gotten worse. Biden's left open, the border.
- 2:12:10People see that shit. People's jobs are getting
- 2:12:12fucking cut. Their hours are getting cut.
- 2:12:14Their shelf insurance is more expensive.
- 2:12:16Food is more expensive. I mean at some point.
- 2:12:20How long you going to keep shooting yourself in the foot?
- 2:12:23Independent voters of Vote Democrat.
- 2:12:26If we're assuming elections aren't stolen, of course.
- 2:12:30Yeah, good. Good question.
- 2:12:32And they shoot themselves in the foot with Andrew Tate.
- 2:12:35Because if you just left him alone and didn't feed into the
- 2:12:37controversy, most people would hear him The same thing with
- 2:12:40like, Fuentes and all the other of these fucking people.
- 2:12:43They push him. That's why I've always been
- 2:12:45saying about the most radical insane.
- 2:12:48Voices that say really radical things or sound like, you know,
- 2:12:53not aligned with like a traditional conservative values.
- 2:12:58Well. They're if even if they're not a
- 2:13:01Fed, like I did say earlier, like that's a fed.
- 2:13:04Maybe they're not. Like, I don't think Nick Fuentes
- 2:13:06knows he's a Fed, or or at least I don't think he didn't up to a
- 2:13:10point, right. It's just that they put people
- 2:13:13in those organizations who encourage it to turn into a
- 2:13:16clown show so they can attract clowns.
- 2:13:18So they can arrest them and be like, look at these evil right
- 2:13:21wing boogeymen. Don't be a fucking clown.
- 2:13:25They're arresting Andrew Tate. Do you like, I don't know how
- 2:13:28associated I would ever want to be with somebody who's under
- 2:13:31investigation like that. Yeah, especially for human
- 2:13:34trafficking. Allegedly.
- 2:13:36And that and that. His defense is well, it
- 2:13:39shouldn't. If it is illegal, it shouldn't
- 2:13:40be. Basically, yeah, that's.
- 2:13:47It is what it is, right? You could be who you want to be.
- 2:13:50You can advocate what you want to advocate.
- 2:13:51I'm going to say what I think about it, Andrew Tate came up.
- 2:13:55That's what I think about it. I don't think what he's
- 2:13:56promoting is what I consider traditional Western masculinity.
- 2:14:00It's like Schmooly said, it's a counter revolution to the
- 2:14:04revolution of the sexual revolution, and it's meant to
- 2:14:07fucking be provocative and edgy. Right.
- 2:14:10And that's why his whole presentation is edgy.
- 2:14:13That's why he says you were going to fight me, to criticize
- 2:14:15me. That's why I'm not afraid of
- 2:14:17anybody, Because I'm a man and I stand by what I fucking say.
- 2:14:21And if that's the stupid fucking criteria for it, then I'd gladly
- 2:14:24do it. And he's not going to do it
- 2:14:26because I'm a nobody, right? But since he says that, yeah, a
- 2:14:29real man would stand up for what you fucking say, yeah?
- 2:14:33Ken would. I can't, Yeah.
- 2:14:35Ken would stand up for what he's fucking believes in.
- 2:14:39But as a man, No. As a man.
- 2:14:40If I'm like, oh, well, I can't criticize this guy because he
- 2:14:43wants a one-on-one fair fight, OK?
- 2:14:47If that's your criteria, let's go.
- 2:14:49I'll put the fucking gloves on. I'll get in.
- 2:14:52Fucking ring. You might kick my ass.
- 2:14:54But a man doesn't fucking care, because a man is a man and he'll
- 2:14:57stand by his fucking honor. And I don't think that's
- 2:15:00something this motherfucker actually knows about.
- 2:15:02Not really, right? No.
- 2:15:07I mean, I I I mean, I agree with you, I think.
- 2:15:10And if that upsets his fans, then so be it.
- 2:15:14Well, well, I mean, I I think there's, I think there's also
- 2:15:18more to masculinity and this is kind my point, there's more to
- 2:15:24masculinity than just being the buffer.
- 2:15:26Banging hoes, yeah. And you know, in in driving
- 2:15:31Lamborghinis like, in a way, Andrew Tate is the most like
- 2:15:36stereotypical. Hypergamy.
- 2:15:40Hypergamy is a feminine trait, yeah.
- 2:15:44That's that's all I'm saying. It's a feminine trait, yeah.
- 2:15:46No. And and and Andrew Tate is that.
- 2:15:51So is peacocking right? That's a fit.
- 2:15:54That's a feminine trait. That's why Peacocks are
- 2:15:56interesting animals in the scheme of things.
- 2:15:59Because the men do something that's traditionally feminine in
- 2:16:02the animal Kingdom. That's why they studied them so
- 2:16:04extensively. That's why you can find Peacocks
- 2:16:07at like the local farm in a lot of places in America.
- 2:16:10Because they studied them so extensively, they bred a lot of
- 2:16:13them. But what they discovered is, is
- 2:16:15just a weird quirk in nature that Peacocks do this feminine
- 2:16:18dance thing in a way that no other species does by having the
- 2:16:24colorful feathers. And so yeah, peacocking is a
- 2:16:27feminine trait. Like all the I'm just pointing
- 2:16:29out these things he's doing are feminine traits because he's
- 2:16:32doing a feminist counter revolution.
- 2:16:34He's doing like OK, is this the kind of feminism you mean bitch
- 2:16:39And I get that and if you that makes you feel good, fine.
- 2:16:43But I'm telling you right now that's not a that's not a path
- 2:16:46to like fulfillment in the long term.
- 2:16:49And then the problem is a lot of these guys don't see a long term
- 2:16:52because things are so bad and they're they're doomer pills,
- 2:16:55you know. But there will be a long term.
- 2:16:58And it's not going to be this Fallout hellscape where you're a
- 2:17:01superhero, right? That a lot of people think it's
- 2:17:04going to be this cleansing fire that's like a video game where
- 2:17:08everything will go our way and we'll win real quick and then
- 2:17:10we'll make everything right. Like, that's not what any any of
- 2:17:14the doomsday scenarios actually look like, especially for you
- 2:17:17personally. Unless you're goddamn the most
- 2:17:20Rambo person who ever ramboed and you could still get shot
- 2:17:23twice and die. Yeah, even even if we have a
- 2:17:28fall scenario, you're not going to be the one to survive.
- 2:17:32In fact, you might be one of the first ones to go.
- 2:17:35You know, like I like ironic. Ironically.
- 2:17:38But it's hard for young men to confront that mortality, right?
- 2:17:43That that's what that that's what shell shock is from war.
- 2:17:46Actually, they find the older soldiers that are less prone to
- 2:17:49get it simply because it's the it's the first time a lot of
- 2:17:52them. Actually confront their
- 2:17:54mortality in a stressful situation.
- 2:17:56Now it's called PTSD, but in World War Two, they called it
- 2:17:59World War One. Sorry.
- 2:18:00They called it shell shock because they had never seen it
- 2:18:03before and it came from, like, getting shelled, right?
- 2:18:06A fucking bomb goes off right next to you, kills three of your
- 2:18:09friends, and then you're just like.
- 2:18:11What the fuck? What the fuck you know?
- 2:18:15That that that condition, now known as post traumatic stress
- 2:18:18disorder, was known as shell shock.
- 2:18:21And and it's a thing that happens when you confront your
- 2:18:23mortality in such a brutal and and invasive fashion.
- 2:18:27And so a lot of young guys, they can't.
- 2:18:29So they don't see the longterm and they don't see themselves as
- 2:18:32anything but invincible. I was one such young man.
- 2:18:36Ladies, I think we all. I think we all were.
- 2:18:40You know, I I was and. What?
- 2:18:45What? What Andrew Tate recommends is
- 2:18:47quite reckless for a young man. It will ruin your life.
- 2:18:51If you have a bunch of exgirlfriends as you don't give
- 2:18:53a shit about, that will bite you in the end.
- 2:18:55You'll end up with, because you're not him and he's living
- 2:18:58this perfect, you know, autistic existence where he has his
- 2:19:01condom laid out to just slip it in or whatever.
- 2:19:04Like he's the rich guy, right? And you're not right.
- 2:19:09And so what's going to happen to you is you try to bang all these
- 2:19:11Broads, you're going to knock one or two of them up, You're
- 2:19:13going to have child support payments, OK, That's real life.
- 2:19:17That's what happens when you're a player in real life.
- 2:19:18Maybe you got an STD? Right.
- 2:19:20And it's embarrassing. So you don't want to tell the
- 2:19:22doctor about it, you know? And yeah.
- 2:19:26I was going to say, you better get snipped.
- 2:19:29You better yeah yeah, get snipped, but then you still got
- 2:19:33the STD problem. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:19:35No, I I agree. I I but if you get.
- 2:19:38But that's that's antithetical. It's a fucking Tate strategy,
- 2:19:41right? Because he said you'll have kids
- 2:19:42when you get older, so he he's encouraging not to get snipped.
- 2:19:46So you might knock up some Broads, as careful as you want
- 2:19:49to be. Grow as careful as you want to
- 2:19:52be. Condoms fail all the time.
- 2:19:56OK, so anytime your Dick is in abroad, and especially if you
- 2:20:01come there, let's be real about it.
- 2:20:03You could knock it brought up. They can tell you, oh, it won't
- 2:20:07happen if you do it in this position wrong.
- 2:20:09It won't happen if you do it in water wrong.
- 2:20:12It won't happen if you better over 360 degrees into a flip
- 2:20:17wrong. But you.
- 2:20:18Know what it. Yeah.
- 2:20:20It won't happen if I pull out wrong.
- 2:20:25So you're telling me that if I put a wig on Sam, let's not go
- 2:20:31into that? Hey, with artificial womb, Sam's
- 2:20:34going to be a mother in no time. Well.
- 2:20:39Listen, you know, in regards, in regards to that often, yeah,
- 2:20:46that'll never. That'll never happen.
- 2:20:50Trans will never be real women. Sorry folks.
- 2:20:56If you want to be fulfilled, just better yourself and like
- 2:20:59stand for something bro, that's as simple as it is.
- 2:21:03Yeah, although you know that's about hard for me since I can't
- 2:21:07actually stand but. Metaphorically speaking, yeah.
- 2:21:12Crawl for something, God damn it.
- 2:21:14I know. More epic, right?
- 2:21:16To Yeah, yeah. No, because we're going to have
- 2:21:20his. What?
- 2:21:21What? What's that fucking weird guy in
- 2:21:24the wheelchair that got elected and stood up at the fucking GOP
- 2:21:27there? Oh, Madison Cawthorne.
- 2:21:30We're going to have our moment when Sam gets elected to office
- 2:21:34and he's going to do that bit where he's going to stand up out
- 2:21:36the wheelchair and he's going to that's that's your bump, right?
- 2:21:39Your lifetime bump. You get one big bump on your
- 2:21:42bump card. And that's the one where you
- 2:21:44purposely just fall forward out of the wheelchair and off the
- 2:21:47stage, all dramatically WWE style, and then get back up and
- 2:21:52crawl back up to the podium and just start giving your speech
- 2:21:55without saying a word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
- 2:21:59God, that would be so fucking epic.
- 2:22:02That would be the greatest, most comedic moment.
- 2:22:05You got to do it safe so you don't actually get hurt.
- 2:22:08Right, right. Yeah.
- 2:22:09Might need some practice for this.
- 2:22:12Would it be the greatest wrestling style bump in the
- 2:22:14history of Lake television? Right.
- 2:22:17So yeah. So also another person who who
- 2:22:24wrote into the show, these are, these are comments.
- 2:22:29These are comments from Spotify actually.
- 2:22:32So thank you. They so this and these were both
- 2:22:36anonymous. So I don't actually know who
- 2:22:37sent these, but I respect. That.
- 2:22:41What? People want to know, you know,
- 2:22:44with with Jordan Peterson's kind of reemergence lately, what do
- 2:22:51we as a group think of Pete, of Jordan Peterson?
- 2:22:58I I mean, I've kind of covered Peterson before.
- 2:23:03I I think he's kind of a grifter.
- 2:23:06But I don't think. I think he's harmless.
- 2:23:09Everybody's grifter nowadays, there's like levels of it and he
- 2:23:13doesn't seem so bad on that tip. Yeah, he I think Peterson's
- 2:23:18message. Is Tim Tim Poole being a 10?
- 2:23:21Jordan Peterson's like a like a three or four in my.
- 2:23:24Mind Well, OK. But I but see, like, I think my
- 2:23:28point with beating with ringing up Jordan Peterson after Andrew
- 2:23:32Tate is I actually think that Jordan Peterson say say what you
- 2:23:37will. About him, But his message about
- 2:23:40masculinity is a lot more attainable.
- 2:23:45Than that. My thing with Jordan Peterson is
- 2:23:48I don't follow him closely. So I've seen things that he said
- 2:23:51that are like retarded and then other things that he said that
- 2:23:54make a lot of like the clean your room thing for a young guy,
- 2:23:57especially fatherless guys, right?
- 2:23:59I think a lot of them will resonate.
- 2:24:02Yeah, and again, I I was a fatherless guy, right?
- 2:24:05And I had to learn masculinity. I learned not from.
- 2:24:08This is my only suggestion, though, for those young
- 2:24:10fatherless guys that may be looking for that kind of
- 2:24:13masculine guidance. Or maybe your father's not
- 2:24:15strong enough. I wouldn't turn to Internet E
- 2:24:18celebrities and form a parasocial relationship with
- 2:24:21them. I I would read classic western
- 2:24:24literature. I would read Plato, Socrates.
- 2:24:28I I, I would be out there reading.
- 2:24:32God, just Marcus Aurelius and Shakespeare and everything at
- 2:24:37the Bible and everything in between that like our ancestors
- 2:24:41read that built this society and and I say our ancestors because
- 2:24:45no matter what, if you're part of the American Society, it's
- 2:24:48premised on that line of thinking in the how it changed
- 2:24:52involved over the years. So it's important, I think, to
- 2:24:55look at the history of how we got here.
- 2:24:57And then when you do, you understand the founders a lot
- 2:25:00better and you understand what's going on today a lot better.
- 2:25:02And I just find that maybe an Internet talking head maybe
- 2:25:05isn't the best basis of education in a lot of this.
- 2:25:19And everything else in art and culture that has changed over
- 2:25:23these years, language and did the roots of it.
- 2:25:09And a lot of times people replace an actual base of
- 2:25:13education about Western history and philosophy and economics
- 2:25:18and. You know, we use the average,
- 2:25:29the average person in America. In the 1800s spoke at least
- 2:25:35partial Latin. Yeah, no, that Max, you as Henry
- 2:25:42just said I was going to bring up.
- 2:25:44Or rather rude. I should say.
- 2:25:46Which is that essentially, whether it's Jordan Peterson or
- 2:25:51Andrew Tay or hell, even even us forming forming pair of social
- 2:25:57relationships with people online.
- 2:26:01And for like life guidance is very weird to me.
- 2:26:08Always like go out. If you really want a strong male
- 2:26:14role model, go out into your community and find a male role
- 2:26:20model in your local. Community, you know?
- 2:26:24I looked around at what, you know, I thought made masculinity
- 2:26:28up. And I took from a lot of places
- 2:26:31and people and I just do my own thing.
- 2:26:35Like some people, yeah, they they look down on me because I
- 2:26:38am that rock'n'roll lifestyle guy.
- 2:26:39But like, I had my kicks. Maybe I'm more of a, like a edgy
- 2:26:44risk taker than other people of my age bracket, but there's been
- 2:26:49those always, right? And I wasn't too edgy, you know
- 2:26:53what I mean? I just went to a lot of
- 2:26:55concerts. I, you know, did radio.
- 2:26:57I. Produced music and I was into
- 2:27:00the scene. I know a lot of those people and
- 2:27:03it's interesting to bring it back to the Ice Cube interview.
- 2:27:06That's the thing Tucker asked him why?
- 2:27:08Why is it that rappers tend to be so much more open minded than
- 2:27:12other people? Oh yeah, yeah, that was great.
- 2:27:15And it's true. No, no, same, same here.
- 2:27:16Because I've some of the most open minded people, for better
- 2:27:19or worse than the most open minded people I've ever met, are
- 2:27:22rappers. And aspiring rappers for that.
- 2:27:28In fact, yeah, I mean, I'm we're working on, you know, between
- 2:27:34the three of us, we're working on getting a few of, you know,
- 2:27:37those rappers on here. Yeah, well, because like their
- 2:27:43shit's already rebel and and that's the thing that's the
- 2:27:46danger in a lot of things if you that's why I wanted to bring up
- 2:27:50vaping, the vaping criminality thing in my state.
- 2:27:53Yeah. So a friend of a show who's been
- 2:27:55on before, Craig who Who is, you know he knows his shit, he's a
- 2:27:59chemical engineer or whatever. So I'm not going to say he's
- 2:28:02wrong. Posted a thing about vaping and
- 2:28:06it's a doctor's warning because of mounting evidence that even
- 2:28:09for the cessation from smoking, vaping is still bad.
- 2:28:14And what they're comparing it to is a case 0.
- 2:28:17So vaping is bad compared to not vaping.
- 2:28:22But vaping is better than smoking in all studies across
- 2:28:25the board. It's called harm reduction, and
- 2:28:28it gets a lot of people to quit. Now in my state, they didn't
- 2:28:32care in that same rhetoric that they were using is why they
- 2:28:34banned it and made it illegal. And that the reason I bring that
- 2:28:38up right now is when you criminalize otherwise lawful
- 2:28:41people, they start to maybe think about breaking other laws.
- 2:28:45They're already an outlaw, right?
- 2:28:49That's why. That's why pot dealers will
- 2:28:51start selling crack. That's why.
- 2:28:54You know, it's a it's a slippery slope, but consenting adults who
- 2:29:02want to use it to quit smoking should be allowed to.
- 2:29:04Is pretty much the baseline position that I've always held.
- 2:29:08Yeah. And it saved my life and the
- 2:29:11studies that they were talking about.
- 2:29:12One of them was falsified and it used my information to do it.
- 2:29:16Do you want to know how? Please share.
- 2:29:20Yeah, so they said that vaping increased the rate of heart
- 2:29:23attack significantly. But what they neglected to say
- 2:29:27was if it were the people who vaped had a heart attack before
- 2:29:30or after they started vaping. I started vaping, Like many of
- 2:29:35the people in the study, started vaping to quit smoking because I
- 2:29:40had a heart attack, right? They said that the vaping caused
- 2:29:46the heart attack that I had before I started vaping.
- 2:29:49Oh, yeah. Oh, Oh yeah, of course they did.
- 2:29:52Probably so. I was dishonest now to say that
- 2:29:57vaping is good for, you know, if you're not, if you don't smoke,
- 2:30:00don't ever pick up a vape. Well, yeah.
- 2:30:01It's a stupid. So this is the whole This is so
- 2:30:07lawmakers do this stupid thing where right this is it's.
- 2:30:13This is the whole. It's for the children type
- 2:30:16thing, yeah. Yeah.
- 2:30:17Where they wanna ban vaping for because it's bad for children,
- 2:30:26right? Which it is.
- 2:30:28We all agree on that. But then they But then they
- 2:30:31punish adults. Who are responsible and who have
- 2:30:36the authority to make decisions for?
- 2:30:38Themselves. Because it's a like it really is
- 2:30:41a conspiracy that's like, really easy to prove.
- 2:30:43It's not even like a theory. There's an agreement with the
- 2:30:47tobacco companies in every single state in the US.
- 2:30:50Instead of people suing because tobacco caused cancer and they
- 2:30:53lied, they came to the Master Settlement Agreement, which
- 2:30:57means that each state for every pack of cigarettes they sell,
- 2:31:00has to put money into this fund, right?
- 2:31:04And if they stop selling cigarettes, they lose money from
- 2:31:07the fund because it's based on how many cigarettes your fucking
- 2:31:10state sells. Yeah.
- 2:31:12So, and that's why they have little scan labels on the bottom
- 2:31:15of them with the fancy, you know, hologram thing on every
- 2:31:20pack of cigarettes that you're getting is because they have to
- 2:31:23do this for the Master Settlement Agreement.
- 2:31:25And So what happened is in all the states that got that banned
- 2:31:29vaping. Phillip Morris, better known now
- 2:31:32as Altria but better known as Phillip Morris, the Marlboro
- 2:31:36company bought Jewel, the biggest vape company.
- 2:31:39And they said, hey government, we have regulated devices that
- 2:31:45we can sell on your market and so they come in and now you can
- 2:31:48get them at the gas station again.
- 2:31:50Even though they banned them from the gas station because
- 2:31:52they didn't want kids to get them in the 1st place, now
- 2:31:55they're there because it's Phillip Morris is good.
- 2:31:57You see big tobacco. Running the vape game because
- 2:32:00they see that the Jake is up with fucking smoking for a lot
- 2:32:03of people is there's no problem here at all.
- 2:32:06Nobody ring the alarm bell. The lobbyist didn't come in and
- 2:32:09make it say hey we can sell these ones right?
- 2:32:11Because we're the big guys. What was happening, what they
- 2:32:14did is they they use cartel like tactics in conjunction with the
- 2:32:19government to stop a small DIY small business revolution of
- 2:32:24vaping. Because it was.
- 2:32:26Primarily run by small businesses, American businesses,
- 2:32:29especially the juice, which is why they went after flavors,
- 2:32:35because we made the flavors that everybody else in the world
- 2:32:38considered safe. Our stand because it came from
- 2:32:41America. There it was held to a standard
- 2:32:43by the vaping association. I forget what they were called.
- 2:32:47So China was buying juice from us and making the mods.
- 2:32:52That's what was happening. And all these small companies
- 2:32:55were outsourcing, they design a mod or fucking whatever, and
- 2:32:58they'd sell it through these Chinese companies.
- 2:33:00That was the operation for years.
- 2:33:03And why did they shut down just specifically the flavor thing?
- 2:33:06And then they let them back in stores.
- 2:33:07As long as it's either made by Phillip Morris or Winston Salem
- 2:33:12or one of these tobacco companies, well then it's fine.
- 2:33:16Vaping's fine as long as it's the tobacco companies producing
- 2:33:19it. And once you know when it gets
- 2:33:20rolled into the Master Settlement Agreement, at the
- 2:33:22same time they made that decision, there's a lot more at
- 2:33:26play here than just putting. Because because Craig's response
- 2:33:29was any putting anything else besides air in your lungs is
- 2:33:33bad. And it's like, no shit Sherlock.
- 2:33:34But harm reduction exists, so we should ban methadone.
- 2:33:39And he's not. Craig's not calling for a
- 2:33:41banning. He's like a libertarian kind of
- 2:33:43guy, but that is. That's the line of logic that
- 2:33:47they're using. And it's like we should ban
- 2:33:49methadone because it's bad, right?
- 2:33:54Right. We should ban any type of
- 2:33:56cessation or harm reduction technique because it's bad.
- 2:34:00It's like, well, if the original thing is worse, isn't shouldn't
- 2:34:04people have the option? I don't know.
- 2:34:07Yeah, no, I I I get. I get what you mean.
- 2:34:10I just for me my two cents. It comes down to the whole Manny
- 2:34:16State. Yeah, exactly.
- 2:34:19But there's money at play too, to to be the nanny state and
- 2:34:22pick. And.
- 2:34:23Choose. You get to pick and choose the
- 2:34:25market winner. They picked the fucking big
- 2:34:27tobacco companies and they shut down all of these these handmade
- 2:34:31operations that a lot of them. What it is, is they're not
- 2:34:35banned in every state but vaping.
- 2:34:37The industry is basically dead because what's happened is they
- 2:34:41fucking shut down their ability to to to transport between
- 2:34:46states because. They they get charged these
- 2:34:50exorbitant taxes, excise taxes. So for me, I can buy vaping
- 2:34:55equipment now. I have my one set up on my desk.
- 2:34:58I sometimes use it on a show. I try to go under the camera
- 2:35:01though, because vaping on cameras kind of douchey, but
- 2:35:08they they they outsourced, you know?
- 2:35:11All these these things to China, so the manufacturer was cheap,
- 2:35:14but now they're getting charged these excise taxes, so they
- 2:35:17can't even make it up on the back end because to send me the
- 2:35:20mod that I ordered that cost $20.
- 2:35:22Well, the excise tax in Massachusetts is something like
- 2:35:24$700.00 or yeah, $70.00 * 3 because it's the same excise tax
- 2:35:32on a pack of cigarettes, which is like 300%.
- 2:35:36So that $20 mod ends up costing me like $200.
- 2:35:40So why would I even do that? And I can have it sent to
- 2:35:43somebody in Rhode Island that I know, or somebody in New
- 2:35:45Hampshire and just go pick it up and not pay that tax.
- 2:35:49It's kill. It's killing the vape industry.
- 2:35:52But that's what they want. They wanted to kill the small
- 2:35:54business part of the vape industry, not the whole thing.
- 2:35:56They want Phillip Morris coming in.
- 2:35:58Phillip Morris has pledged to stop making cigarettes by like
- 2:36:012027 entirely. No more Marlboros.
- 2:36:05Did you know that? I I actually did read.
- 2:36:08Something about that, like about.
- 2:36:10They have a Marlboro branded, what they call heat not burn
- 2:36:13product that they're going to put on shelves instead, where
- 2:36:16you stick the cigarette in like a little tube that heats it up,
- 2:36:19but it's not. It's not vaping, but it heats
- 2:36:22the tobacco just enough that it doesn't burn it and it still
- 2:36:25smokes. And they're saying that this is
- 2:36:27better and that's what they're going to replace Marlboro
- 2:36:30cigarettes with, or vapes. They want to get people on
- 2:36:34jewels. Big Tobacco.
- 2:36:36It took over the market with the help of the government.
- 2:36:38Nobody cares. Everybody's like, vaping is
- 2:36:40douchey. Yeah, but vaping can save your
- 2:36:42life. I don't.
- 2:36:43Know. Yeah, yeah, you know.
- 2:36:51People should be able to make their own health decisions.
- 2:36:53This is what I said about Ice Cube and I stand by it like
- 2:36:55across the board. Yep, yeah, pretty much.
- 2:37:03You know, and I mean within reason, unless it's really,
- 2:37:07really dumb and it's like, hey, could you cut my sternum open
- 2:37:10with a chainsaw? I'm like, no, probably not
- 2:37:13because you're going to die, you know, but like within reason,
- 2:37:15like do no harm still applies. Right.
- 2:37:18Yeah, I try to be. Reasonable Sam.
- 2:37:23You notice I've been getting wound up more as the shows go
- 2:37:26on, though. Now I'm I mean.
- 2:37:29Listen. The Tate thing gets me going cuz
- 2:37:31like to say To say you have to fight me to have an opinion is
- 2:37:34also a womanly thing to do because he knows nobody will
- 2:37:37actually take him up on it, or if they do, he can just ignore
- 2:37:40them. Listen, Max, we're the three of
- 2:37:45us are reasonable podcasters in an unreasonable space In a well,
- 2:37:54maybe not. But.
- 2:37:57Maybe we're not reasonable, but we're reasonable compared to the
- 2:38:01people were surrounded by one thing I want to bring up while
- 2:38:05we're talking of cigarettes and cancer and whatnot, shout out to
- 2:38:11Mr. Medicer and another fuck you to Mersh because I guess
- 2:38:17Medicare had a heart attack or? Yeah, things are things are not
- 2:38:26looking good for. Well, that's a shame.
- 2:38:29Again. Again, like I said about the
- 2:38:32Brawny James or whatever, like anybody that has a heart attack,
- 2:38:35that really sucks. And as a fan of Jim's, it really
- 2:38:38sucks to hear that. If that's true, if you never
- 2:38:41know, because Kiwi Farms will make something up.
- 2:38:44Yeah, I mean, who knows? But let me, well, let me pull.
- 2:38:48Let me pull up the the tweet from.
- 2:38:52As a as a as a fellow heart attack survivor, then that
- 2:38:56really, really sucks and I hope that I hope did nothing but the
- 2:38:59best form. Let me well, let me see, because
- 2:39:03Maya tweeted this earlier. So let me let me screen share
- 2:39:15this real quick. Shout out to Maya, by the way.
- 2:39:23Yeah, my, my got out of the Internet, got out of the out of
- 2:39:28the sector. A lot of people are, and some of
- 2:39:31them I don't even want to name right?
- 2:39:33Or just like we're done with this cancerous bullshit.
- 2:39:36Good for them, right? It is cancerous bullshit.
- 2:39:39Yeah. The people that stay bogged down
- 2:39:41in it, I just kind of feel bad for and some of them can't get
- 2:39:44out like the vicars. Right.
- 2:39:48Unfortunate, but they handle themselves.
- 2:39:50I don't need to defend any of those people.
- 2:39:52They defend themselves. Right.
- 2:39:54And well, those people are pretty normal too.
- 2:39:58At least the victors are. So if you get off the Internet,
- 2:40:01things are pretty normal for the most part.
- 2:40:04So this I guess this is from Jim's post account.
- 2:40:11Right, but this post read. I I see that faking cancer was
- 2:40:18fun, so I decided to fake a heart attack too.
- 2:40:20Yeah, no big big much, much heartfelt heart attack survivor
- 2:40:26to heart attack survivor. Empathy for Jim here.
- 2:40:28Like that really sucks. I I I hate to even tell my wife
- 2:40:32that she's going to be heartbroken.
- 2:40:34Jim was like the one person even associated with any of this shit
- 2:40:37that my wife ever liked. I I, I, yeah, but I also.
- 2:40:43I do love the fact though that like even after Jim, even after
- 2:40:48Jim had a heart effect, he's still in Mr. Medacre fashion is
- 2:40:52taking the piss out out out of people.
- 2:40:57Especially especially Merge. Because you you know, you know
- 2:41:02that Merge fucking saw this and you know that.
- 2:41:05Like you know that even even if Merch doesn't comment on it
- 2:41:11publicly, you know he's going to see the hell I get.
- 2:41:15I get reports that he still sees about me, right?
- 2:41:19And I don't. I don't watch Night Wave
- 2:41:24officially. All I watch are the Angie's
- 2:41:28random edits clips. If Jim ever watches this, my
- 2:41:32advice is go to budget vapor. And because I know what he
- 2:41:36smokes, right? Go to budget Vapor and get
- 2:41:39Tobacco #5. You'll you'll thank me later.
- 2:41:42Get get a vape and try that, because a lot of people will say
- 2:41:46I can't get one that tastes kind of like my cigarettes.
- 2:41:49Tobacco #5 tastes a lot like his brand of cigarettes.
- 2:41:52I should know. So there's there's a pro tip,
- 2:41:56Jim, because heart attacks fucking suck.
- 2:42:00Well, well, yes. They fucking suck, bro.
- 2:42:05They. Well, they have.
- 2:42:07Well, they absolutely, they absolutely do suck.
- 2:42:09But then, you know, to have a heart attack and cancer, I mean.
- 2:42:14That's what I'm saying. They suck on their own.
- 2:42:17Yeah, they stuck on their own. Why you think I'm out here
- 2:42:20running fucking miles in the middle of a fucking broadcast?
- 2:42:24I kidding. Fucking just driven over there.
- 2:42:26But I'm a lunatic. I'm so.
- 2:42:27I apologize for that again. No, no, man.
- 2:42:31I mean, I'm listen, I'd rather you be alive to host the show
- 2:42:35and more importantly, to be a father.
- 2:42:39Well, yeah, my boy, he was like drink.
- 2:42:43That is more important. But yeah, I'm out there.
- 2:42:45I'm out there busting my ass, breaking myself in half and I
- 2:42:48feel good about myself. That's that's where the
- 2:42:50self-confidence comes from, ladies and gentlemen.
- 2:42:53And it doesn't have to be physically breaking yourself
- 2:42:55like I'm talking because like, Sam just wrote a book.
- 2:42:58Are you proud of yourself, Sam? I'm.
- 2:43:00I'm fuck, I'm fucking proud of myself.
- 2:43:02By the way, 2222 copies were sold in July.
- 2:43:09Thank you all for those who bought it and for all the for
- 2:43:13all the naysayers who were like, oh, you only sold sold 22
- 2:43:20copies. I guess it wasn't a best.
- 2:43:23First off, it's not the end of the year yet.
- 2:43:26And B, it wasn't my goal to make a a best seller.
- 2:43:31I never said it was going to be a best seller.
- 2:43:33I I somebody said, hey, I put this book out.
- 2:43:36I bet on the I bet it will sell more.
- 2:43:40I want to I want to know how many published books the
- 2:43:43naysayers have. And then we can talk.
- 2:43:45Yeah, yeah, that's what I want to.
- 2:43:49Know as a guy that published books back in the day, it's a
- 2:43:51big deal. When you publish a book, you
- 2:43:53feel proud of yourself. That's what I'm saying.
- 2:43:55And and you. You can feel like that instead
- 2:43:57of just hating on him for doing something like that, do
- 2:44:00something. You think I can write a better
- 2:44:02book? Do it, bro.
- 2:44:04Yeah. You're you're a king.
- 2:44:06Like I say, you're a fucking king if you make yourself one.
- 2:44:10Yeah, the the other thing too is you don't.
- 2:44:13In order to be successful. This is another thing about the
- 2:44:15sector that just as kind of an outsider that got really
- 2:44:19tiresome after a while was like all these shows.
- 2:44:25Even Ralph to some extent like had potential for for to be
- 2:44:30successful. But the problem is, is when
- 2:44:33you're tearing. And I'm not a Kumbaya guy by any
- 2:44:37stretch of the imagination, but rather than constantly tearing
- 2:44:40each other down, right you could, you know, cross promote
- 2:44:47and actually do something productive.
- 2:44:50Yeah, but the nature. It's shock jock bullshit.
- 2:44:53And the nature of it is to just get more extreme.
- 2:44:55And it was all founded on yelling, you know, the worst
- 2:44:58things they could say at each other.
- 2:45:00So of course it was going to devolve into that.
- 2:45:03Well, yeah. It's fine.
- 2:45:04But that wasn't ever really like we were doing that, you know,
- 2:45:09years before any of that started.
- 2:45:10And that wasn't fulfilling for us.
- 2:45:12That's why we changed course, right?
- 2:45:15No. And I and I and I get that.
- 2:45:16But that. But that's what I'm saying too.
- 2:45:18It's like all this. Like Gamergate could have been a
- 2:45:23thing for good. And yet they and yet these
- 2:45:27people just let it turn to shit, basically.
- 2:45:30Yeah, I guess. I'm not like, that's.
- 2:45:33The thing is, I wasn't a Gamergate guy.
- 2:45:35Ironically, though, Max Sand was a Gamergate guy because my
- 2:45:38brother was and he stole my name.
- 2:45:41But yeah, I I saw it happening and I was like, ha, they're
- 2:45:45finally on. Because I've been woke to the
- 2:45:47communist problem since I Oh, yeah, me, me, me, Me too.
- 2:45:52Well, that I. Was like, oh baby first commies.
- 2:45:55They spotted them for the first time.
- 2:45:57How cute. Well, well, that was like when
- 2:46:01that was like when all my friends were like, were freaking
- 2:46:04out about Gamergate. I the thing that was the thing
- 2:46:08that was like, a the thing that was like, weird to me was like,
- 2:46:11how much of a red pellet was for other people.
- 2:46:13Because I'm like, I'm like, yeah, where have you guys?
- 2:46:17Where have you guys been for the past 10 years, man?
- 2:46:23It's good, though. I was thinking Spotify today.
- 2:46:27Speaking of shit like that, Spotify today recommended me Tom
- 2:46:30McDonald's new track, American Flags.
- 2:46:32Big recommend because that's like the anthem for our show,
- 2:46:35man, yeah. That shit.
- 2:46:38Tom McDonnell, Adam Calhoun, two of two of the guys putting it
- 2:46:42down lately, and it comes fire does everywhere we go.
- 2:46:47We drenched in American flags. Bitch.
- 2:46:51That's the aesthetic. All these idiots with these
- 2:46:54other stupid flags that they're representing autistically, like
- 2:46:57the aesthetic that's going to win is the one that's red,
- 2:46:59white, and blue with a little bit of little bit of yellow here
- 2:47:03and there. Props to Props to Spotify for
- 2:47:08promoting that as well instead. Of it also said we're going to
- 2:47:12take a look at the the hottest tracks of the week and the first
- 2:47:16thing it played was try this in a small town.
- 2:47:18So I let it play. I'm not a country guy.
- 2:47:21But I thought that was cool. Oh, nice.
- 2:47:24Yeah, Very, very nice. So.
- 2:47:28We're winning, gentlemen. It takes time.
- 2:47:31It takes time, and there's hurdles.
- 2:47:33And these indictments, we didn't talk about them nearly as much.
- 2:47:37We didn't talk about the topic either.
- 2:47:39X going to give you. Yeah, Twitter turned to X and
- 2:47:41nobody cares. It's still Twitter.com, So I'm
- 2:47:43going to call it Twitter You'll. Still say Twitter?
- 2:47:46I've been on Twitter since 2009, so yeah, no, I ain't.
- 2:47:53Nothing really changed except the logo on my phone.
- 2:47:56It took a second to find it. Yeah, I just.
- 2:47:59I titled that that because I figured we might bring up like
- 2:48:03X. You know most.
- 2:48:06Also, I like light mode. I can see it better.
- 2:48:09Maybe your eyes. Maybe most people's eyes are
- 2:48:11different zoomers. But I like late mode.
- 2:48:14No, I'm I actually. I actually like Light Mode too.
- 2:48:20Uh, like I like, I like. I like Dark Mode.
- 2:48:24Shocker at night when it's. Kind of, yeah.
- 2:48:28Yeah, it's almost like that for a lot of people.
- 2:48:31That's why they invented that. But and then the zoomers come in
- 2:48:33and they're like, I only like dark mode ever.
- 2:48:35You don't use dark mode. How dare you?
- 2:48:38It's like, but no you. Ain't gonna see my you ain't
- 2:48:40seeing my screen, motherfucker, I took a.
- 2:48:43Screenshot you can read it, well no but like but like during the
- 2:48:48day when I'm writing stuff or even doing like video editing or
- 2:48:52something like that, because I'm I'm doing a lot of that now
- 2:48:56switching. Between switching between the
- 2:48:58two is the Chad move because that's how you reduce eye
- 2:49:00strain? Yes.
- 2:49:03No, No. Trying to use trying to use dark
- 2:49:05mode during the day is actually painful to try, at least for me.
- 2:49:13I don't. I don't know how.
- 2:49:16And then and then we got to cover real quick.
- 2:49:18What do you think of the X logo? I don't think it.
- 2:49:24I don't think it's bad. I don't see any Illuminati ties
- 2:49:28like some people are trying to claim.
- 2:49:31Whatever it's it's a it's a very basic X.
- 2:49:34And he put up a big sign and they made him take it down.
- 2:49:37And it really doesn't matter because on the web, where I
- 2:49:40mostly use Twitter because I'm a boomer like that.
- 2:49:43Nah, I scroll and like. Before I go to bed or something.
- 2:49:47But like, yeah, I mostly use on the web cuz I'm at a computer a
- 2:49:51lot of the day, right? It's still Twitter dot com,
- 2:49:55yeah, and people still call. People still call them tweets,
- 2:50:00you know? It's gonna be tweets forever.
- 2:50:03Like he can't. He can try.
- 2:50:06But it's he's not going to get anything with it being a zeiter
- 2:50:09as X or whatever to take off. It's going to be a tweet.
- 2:50:12The thing is that X as A as a platform that's bigger than
- 2:50:16Twitter, I think it's it's a good idea, yeah.
- 2:50:21It's kind of like meta. It's like Facebook still exists
- 2:50:26right within it. And so does like the Oculus and
- 2:50:29all that stuff. Yeah.
- 2:50:30And so if it's going to be something like that where, oh,
- 2:50:32there's a payment processor, there's there's an ecosystem.
- 2:50:36In which everything works together seamlessly and it's
- 2:50:40called XI. Get it?
- 2:50:42That's good because X being A stand in for everything you
- 2:50:47know. Well, well that well that's just
- 2:50:49like that's just like what Google did with Alphabet, right?
- 2:50:56Google technically became Alphabet, but they but they
- 2:51:00didn't necessarily get rid of the the Google branding either,
- 2:51:04or the YouTube branding. Right, Because why would you?
- 2:51:10The Twitter thing is, I I don't know.
- 2:51:12It'll be fine. Yeah.
- 2:51:14It'll it'll be fine. I I I do think it was a mistake
- 2:51:17to kind of just get rid of the Twitter branding.
- 2:51:19Like maybe say that Twitter is now under the umbrella of X, but
- 2:51:24don't get rid of the tweet branding.
- 2:51:28So I mean even even even on my like, even on my app it still
- 2:51:33says tweet. So yeah.
- 2:51:38Well, you know, as a wise man once said, X going to give it to
- 2:51:43you. Fuck waiting for you to get it
- 2:51:45on your own X going to deliver it to you?
- 2:51:48Indeed so. Not, not open up the door.
- 2:51:51It's real and this is and this is.
- 2:51:57This is What I do, The Ones Upon and the Time in Hollywood meme
- 2:52:00of, he said. The title of the show.
- 2:52:04Damn right and pointing so anyway though.
- 2:52:12I'm preaching about not smoking. I gotta.
- 2:52:14I gotta get off and smoke this point with my wife.
- 2:52:19Yeah, later. Later.
- 2:52:21No, no, I was, I was waiting for the end of the show.
- 2:52:23I was just saying, you know, we are running long now.
- 2:52:26Yeah, no, we are. I all I was going to say is I
- 2:52:29don't have anything, you know, really left to talk up.
- 2:52:35Right. I love, I love closing
- 2:52:36statements. That's part of the fun.
- 2:52:38If the audience who stays through, they're the real
- 2:52:40heroes, Yep. Do we have any?
- 2:52:47Shout out to my two hour 52 minute motherfuckers, You're the
- 2:52:52real motherfucker. Comment that you are the two
- 2:52:54hour minute motherfucker. You know who you are, Do we?
- 2:52:58I'll give I'll give you a game code the the person that
- 2:53:00comments the exact time stamp properly because they're the
- 2:53:03only people that are going to see this.
- 2:53:05I will message you personally. A free game on Steam.
- 2:53:08Yes, because you're the real. Hero That's my that's my
- 2:53:14giveaway this week. And it's a good game, too.
- 2:53:17I won't spoil it. Yeah, yeah, and and and.
- 2:53:23Ditto. If you can.
- 2:53:24If you can, message. If you can message either one of
- 2:53:26us the time code to the end. I'll throw in the audiobook
- 2:53:32version of Shadows of Deception. No, the time code who I shouted
- 2:53:36out, which is my two hour and 52 minute motherfuckers.
- 2:53:40If you can put there in the two hour 52 minute motherfucker
- 2:53:43club, you get a free game because that's real.
- 2:53:48It sounds good so. What else?
- 2:53:51And Bye Bye Sam's book. It's it's it's really important.
- 2:53:57It's. It's life changing and it and
- 2:54:00it's good too. So no, I wasn't saying that.
- 2:54:05It's just all right. No, no, it's good.
- 2:54:07It's good. But you know, it will change
- 2:54:10your life. You'll become the man that you
- 2:54:13once thought you could be. Yes, indeed, by reading it.
- 2:54:20Put. Put that on the back of the
- 2:54:22fucking reprint. That's your review.
- 2:54:25It it's it's it's the political thriller that will change your
- 2:54:30life forever. So.
- 2:54:34It'll make. You contemplate whether you're
- 2:54:36gay or not, but realize that you're not.
- 2:54:41You know it. It actually won't make you
- 2:54:43condemn whether or not the deep state exists.
- 2:54:46Spoiler or it fucking does. Oh shit.
- 2:54:51So we getting alrighty, folks. We'll be back next week.
- 2:55:00Oh, I did have one thing to point out.
- 2:55:02Me and my bloody core. And he's bringing in some Twitch
- 2:55:05broad that's got quite a few viewers are going to be doing.
- 2:55:08Our MMO project I had been talking about.
- 2:55:10It's been in the works for a while.
- 2:55:11You get it. It takes a bit to get people
- 2:55:13coordinated to where you can sink significant hours into a
- 2:55:16game. But I think we're going to be
- 2:55:19starting with the Dungeons and the Dragons Online.
- 2:55:21So it's going to be me and him who are two old school players
- 2:55:25with very different philosophies, because he'll
- 2:55:27grind for every he's the hardcore, and I quit at the
- 2:55:30first sign of resistance on the casual.
- 2:55:33I'm very picky about MMO and then we figured we'd bring along
- 2:55:36a noob and she's never played any of them, She never really
- 2:55:40played multiplayer games at all. And so that's going to be the
- 2:55:43thing. It's a quite an undertaking.
- 2:55:45It's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to be streaming it
- 2:55:47over with Twitch as well as I'll be cutting up a final cut to
- 2:55:51make a video for my main gaming channel right here on Rumble
- 2:55:55ladies and Gentlemen, as well as other Very nice yeah and if if
- 2:56:01if you want to promote, maybe we can have them come on the show.
- 2:56:06I'd be happy if they'd be 1 so. Maybe, maybe, Probably not.
- 2:56:12Though Cords are kind of a he didn't like the politics stuff.
- 2:56:16He's he's kind of, I'm not going to say what his politics are,
- 2:56:19but I've been friends with him for a long time, if that helps.
- 2:56:22And I just don't think you would want to go on a political show.
- 2:56:26But he loves games. And we're going to have a lot of
- 2:56:30fun with that and do some old games.
- 2:56:32Lord of the Rings Online, maybe some of these old games.
- 2:56:35Lord of the Rings Online is great.
- 2:56:37And I would, if you haven't ever played it and you're into like
- 2:56:40the idea of an MMO, highly recommend it because it's it's
- 2:56:44probably not going to be around forever and you can just play
- 2:56:47through with the story of The Lord of the Rings like you go
- 2:56:49alongside the Fellowship, you even have like the Battle of
- 2:56:54Helms Deep and all that shit. It's pretty dope, but.
- 2:56:57I'm rambling on. We were wrapping it up two hour
- 2:57:0052 minute Motherfucker in the comments gets a code, doesn't
- 2:57:04matter where. If you reach us with that
- 2:57:06comment code, I'll know you saw it.
- 2:57:10Yeah, two hours and 52 minutes. And if you add to two hours and
- 2:57:1457 minutes all throw in a Shadows reception audio book for
- 2:57:20you folks. So alrighty, folks.
- 2:57:26Take care, and we'll see you next week.
- 2:57:28God bless God, save this great nation and God.
- 2:57:31Freedom. Hogacy.
- 2:57:33In that order. Thanks for listening to the
- 2:57:40Whitfield report on the NGC network.
- 2:57:44Please visit Sam's website at www.thesamwhitfield.com and
- 2:57:50support Sam on patreonandpatreon.com/whitfield
- 2:57:55Report until next time. God Bless God, Save this great
- 2:58:00Nation and God, Freedom, legacy in that order.
- 2:58:16Play Akshay Song.