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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, September 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. That's Saint Samuel Hackett
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  Speaker 1: Marcel Darius dropped by photo journalist Ashlyn Sullivan on her iPhone. Right,
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  Speaker 1: You've got a lot of stuff, you know. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I was wondering if at some point you're gonna be banned.
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  Speaker 1: You've got so much good stuff from behind where's that girl?
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  Speaker 1: Where issue? They made me put the vests on the
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  Speaker 1: photos that you had to wear it in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't be quite as sneaky. Who made you from
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  Speaker 1: the league office? Come Alex Brooks on got identify yourself?
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  Speaker 1: You know that's a Colt's invention. By the way, the
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  Speaker 1: Colts used to get so frustrated with Patrick Kavanaugh, who's
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars director of broadcasting, because he was just all
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  Speaker 1: over the place that they made him wear this bright
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  Speaker 1: orange hunting like vest so that Bill Polian could sit
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  Speaker 1: up in the stands and identify where's that Kavanaugh kid?
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  Speaker 1: And he was just a kid at the time, but
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  Speaker 1: he was so lethal with the camera. Nothing illegal, but
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  Speaker 1: just lethal. He got great stuff illegal. No, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: bordered sometimes on that, but it was lethal. He was good.
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  Speaker 1: And so Patrick set the trend and now everybody in
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  Speaker 1: the league, where's a vest? Thanks Patrick? It could at
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  Speaker 1: least be a little more fashionable than that awful brown color.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't match your teal at all. Fun stuff. These
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  Speaker 1: are the complaints of a twenty three year old. Ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Yeah, well you'll have more. Just give yourself time.
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  Speaker 1: How are you this morning? I'm good? Yeah, Tuesday. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's more when there's no zone, there's more Ashland. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we need more of that. It's pretty good. Oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. I gotta look at the rundown because
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  Speaker 1: we have a big show. So let's go with big
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  Speaker 1: things and get things started the show. Yes, the big thing,
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  Speaker 1: big thing, Number one, like it was all of last week,
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  Speaker 1: is Leonard's legs. Dug Row met the media yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: ad minute that he was a bit wrong last week. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was really optimistic last week and obviously I was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it's the one thing that kicks me
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  Speaker 1: in the butt all the time, now, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes when I feel like, hey, he's gonna be all right,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to say it, and I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, hey this guy might not and he does.
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  Speaker 1: But again, you know again, we took the test another
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  Speaker 1: test today and it was good, and tomorrow will be
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  Speaker 1: you know, another test, and it would just take it
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  Speaker 1: day by day. To be fair to Doug, he always
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  Speaker 1: says that he always answers the questions about injuries, saying, look,
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  Speaker 1: I get myself in trouble when I say this because
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  Speaker 1: I have a perspective and I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: player's pain level is, so it's tough for me to say.
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  Speaker 1: But I did get. I was caught off guard on
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  Speaker 1: Friday when he was asked, I forget whether it was
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  Speaker 1: Mike de Rocco or Gene for Neat who said, so
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  Speaker 1: you're optimistic that he'll play, And Doug's response was, and
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  Speaker 1: I paraphrasing, sure, absolutely, I'm optimistic about it, right. And
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  Speaker 1: I think at the time that that they saw how
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  Speaker 1: much progress he made that they were Uh. The reason
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  Speaker 1: it caught me off guard is that seen hamstring injuries
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  Speaker 1: through the years, and I go back to Fred's in
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  Speaker 1: where it just lingered. And have you noticed Leonard from
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  Speaker 1: at his huge hamstring? Huge He is a guy with enormous,
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  Speaker 1: enormous legs, and that may just seem nonsensical to you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of course gets big legs. He's a big guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big running back. He's power back, absolutely outsized,
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  Speaker 1: which is part of the reason why he has such
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  Speaker 1: freakish athletic ability. Um. I look at those legs and
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  Speaker 1: I think, Okay, if there's something wrong with one of them,
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  Speaker 1: it might take a little while for it to heal.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't and I don't. I have no knowledge whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned if he goes through the week
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  Speaker 1: exactly like he is this week and again on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: What did they say that Saturday Saturday afternoon? It kind
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  Speaker 1: of gripped up on him. Everyone who's watching is at
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  Speaker 1: a hamstring bothered them at some point. And you're not
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  Speaker 1: a professional athlete, none of us are. Now you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a finely tuned, almost a NASCAR type of you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Leonard can tell you down to
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  Speaker 1: every inch of his body what feels good and what
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  Speaker 1: he needs to do. That's that's the these guys are. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Hamstrings are lingering injuries for running back, especially someone like
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  Speaker 1: like Leonard who's so big. Um, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: chance it, and I don't think they will they've calledwell
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  Speaker 1: told me about an hour before kickoff right after they
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  Speaker 1: announced it on Sunday. Uh, they were going to be smart.
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  Speaker 1: They were not going to take chances. Now, I remember
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  Speaker 1: us when he said Coach Maron said last week that
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  Speaker 1: he was optimistic, that's going, oh, he's definitely playing. Then
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  Speaker 1: if coach Maron says he's optimistic, because he's never optimistic
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  Speaker 1: about many things, right, So that ward I think threw
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  Speaker 1: us all off. Especially on Friday when he said it again,
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  Speaker 1: We're like, oh, he's playing. Look, they'll test, they'll read, test,
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  Speaker 1: they'll work it all week. But don't be surprised if
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  Speaker 1: come Sunday they don't say we're still not completely over it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't think that it's worth the risk. And then
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  Speaker 1: you saw what they did last week. You know we
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  Speaker 1: had the conversation afterwards, is this offense and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: sound stupid, but is this offense better if you don't
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  Speaker 1: rely on Leonard for that quite as much? Now they
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  Speaker 1: drafted Leonard and they signed Andrew Nowell because they're going
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  Speaker 1: to lean on the running game. But you know last
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  Speaker 1: week people had their their their their fingers in the mouth,
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  Speaker 1: they were chewing their nails about how they gonna do
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  Speaker 1: without Leonard. Boy, they did great. Look at what the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback did, right, You don't have to lean on him.
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  Speaker 1: I think the result of it. The question isn't are
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  Speaker 1: they better if they don't lean on Leonard, it's what
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  Speaker 1: can they do if they've got the quarterback and Leonard
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  Speaker 1: both right, and the quarterback playing like he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to lean on Leonard? Right, I think it's it's better,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a different style of play. It gives Blake
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  Speaker 1: more options to kind of control his own play. It's
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  Speaker 1: a mindset. Yeah, it's a mindset. And people around the
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  Speaker 1: league last year, and I think it had some some
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  Speaker 1: merit last year, said the Jaguars can't win if they
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  Speaker 1: have to rely on Blake, And of course, in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter of that game where they couldn't run the ball,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't win in the a f C Championship game.
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  Speaker 1: But he disproved that notion entirely on Sunday, completely entirely
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  Speaker 1: with what they were able to do. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: to lean on Leonard. Blake can carry the show. Another
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  Speaker 1: narrative about the Jaguars quarterback that is dead. You'll still
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  Speaker 1: here in places where they don't know what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a completely entirely dead narrative. If Blake
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  Speaker 1: can play like he did last week, not having Leonard
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  Speaker 1: for net for maybe a few weeks isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: be a problem if you think about it. We heard
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  Speaker 1: them say, well, he might start and only get a
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  Speaker 1: few reps. Why would you make him play a few reps?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's probably a conversation that they had
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday morning between Tom, Doug and Dave. Look, if
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  Speaker 1: he's only going to carry the ball three or four times,
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  Speaker 1: what's the point of putting Absolutely don't do it. If
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  Speaker 1: we don't have him full, if we can't use him
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  Speaker 1: as much as we need or as much as we want,
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  Speaker 1: then let's not put him on the field. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the smart way to approach him. So, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, speaking of Leonard's leg, we will not have
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  Speaker 1: this conversation next week because Cam Robinson is going on
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  Speaker 1: isured reserve. Uh. But Cam's leg obviously it's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Toward the a c L he went down and one
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  Speaker 1: of the first tests they do was the a c
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  Speaker 1: L and and as Dr Kaplan was looking at that leg,
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  Speaker 1: you could see him in pain. The way they carried
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  Speaker 1: him off. Um, it's a shame because he was throughout
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  Speaker 1: the entire offseason and he worked so hard to get
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  Speaker 1: to a point where he felt like he was ready
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  Speaker 1: strengthwise to compete this year. And you know it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like Allen Robinson last year. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't necessarily see that jarring play where the knee bends.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not like Marquise Lee's injury. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: it was. You could tell him what was wrong. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So now you bring in Josh Wells. What let's watch
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  Speaker 1: it real quick here. You can see, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: knee takes a jolt and it just it kind of goes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but not crazy, No, it's subtle, but it happened.
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  Speaker 1: So seeing that awkward bend, automatically think, so, now you're
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  Speaker 1: bringing Josh Wells. And Josh has been around here for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years, and Jeff Loghaman has talked to
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  Speaker 1: me over and by the way, Jeff will be on
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  Speaker 1: the show a little bit later about well so we'll
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  Speaker 1: ask him about that. And thought he was a guy
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  Speaker 1: with some upside. He's the smart, dependable, tough veteran guy
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  Speaker 1: who can play on the left, who can play on
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  Speaker 1: the right. Uh, the guy you want your meeting room.
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  Speaker 1: The question is now, who's the swing tackle? Right? And
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  Speaker 1: Doug said yesterday in his press conference, the answers here
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  Speaker 1: in the building in part because at this point of
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  Speaker 1: the season, big offensive tackles who can play and help
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  Speaker 1: you are on other rosters. Yeah, you mentioned what Maron said.
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  Speaker 1: He actually said that he wants everyone to think like
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  Speaker 1: they're a starter. For this example, here's what he had
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  Speaker 1: to say. Maybe all right, but you paraphrase that well.
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  Speaker 1: So Will Richardson Jr. The fourth round pick from North
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  Speaker 1: Carolina State, did not look to me as if he
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  Speaker 1: was ready for this rule when training camp in the
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  Speaker 1: preseason ended. Now, maybe he's made great strides in the
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  Speaker 1: film room. We only see a small portion of practice. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking here. You might want to put me on
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  Speaker 1: the camera. Um, you're sitting there nodding. You're just sitting
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  Speaker 1: there nodding. I'm thinking. Okay. Uh, anyway, the the the
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  Speaker 1: kid may be ready to go at least to step
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  Speaker 1: up a little. You're gonna have to overcome these situations.
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  Speaker 1: You're lucky you have wells Okay, Now the question is
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  Speaker 1: can well stay healthy all season? Yes? Absolutely, He's a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's battled injuries. He's miss seasons over the course
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  Speaker 1: of his career with injuries. Now you need him to
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  Speaker 1: stay healthy. You're almost holding your breath that he stays healthy.
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  Speaker 1: This offensive line as a whole. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: interesting yesterday when dun Ron was asked about Brandon Linder
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  Speaker 1: and if the case were to be if he had
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  Speaker 1: to swing out to a tackle and he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: all options are open. I thought that was interesting that
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  Speaker 1: he would even well, I think what he's saying there,
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  Speaker 1: and I think in fact he even clarified this later on.
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  Speaker 1: It is that they've got guys that can swing out there.
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  Speaker 1: But Brandon Lennard's your best center. Right. If you take
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  Speaker 1: your best center and make him your second or third
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  Speaker 1: best left tackle, what you're saying he is because you're
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  Speaker 1: not moving him now, well, then you have a second
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  Speaker 1: center and a third left tackle. See, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: weaken yourself across. Everything is disorganized. Absolutely, So Leonards leg
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  Speaker 1: will continue to be a big thing. Cam's leg not
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  Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, sadly, and it is it stinks because
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  Speaker 1: we talked about all offseason, you know, he was the
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  Speaker 1: one guy that was year every single day in the
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  Speaker 1: and he'll come back from the a c L injury.
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  Speaker 1: It happens early enough in the season, he should be
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  Speaker 1: ready for the start of next season, we hope. So right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, big thing Number two is tighten trouble. So
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  Speaker 1: this team last season vat you twice, suffer this huge
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  Speaker 1: Patriots win. They're in the locker room, they're celebrating a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But a j boys mine is already on
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  Speaker 1: the Titans. We're looking forward the next week. We was
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  Speaker 1: over too against the last year. They just won again
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  Speaker 1: today against Houston. So it's gonna be a really big
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  Speaker 1: game and pooring game the next game. It is. And
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  Speaker 1: not just oh two last year, but they've lost four
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  Speaker 1: the last five against these guys, and the guy who
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  Speaker 1: really kills this team it It was never DeMarco Murray
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  Speaker 1: and and Derrick Henry has had some nice downhill runs
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  Speaker 1: against this team and control the tempo in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of those games, but it's always Marcus Mariota. So I
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  Speaker 1: went back and I looked at the numbers, not from
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  Speaker 1: sixteen or fifteen, but two thousand seventeen, because it's this
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  Speaker 1: defense against this picular quarterback. Watch these two plays. This
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  Speaker 1: really shows it. Second down and seven, and look at
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  Speaker 1: how he gets underneath the tackle and gets the eighth yard.
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  Speaker 1: He gets past the markers. This is on a key
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  Speaker 1: drive late in the ball game. You're only down five.
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  Speaker 1: But look how he just kind of slides underneath and
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  Speaker 1: finds his way past the defender and picks up the
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  Speaker 1: first down on this drive. Then he faces third and
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  Speaker 1: five at his own forty four and look at him
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  Speaker 1: get free. This was the ball game, right, Look he
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  Speaker 1: just sidestep the defender. This is the best defense in football.
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  Speaker 1: That's Calais Campbell. Right, Very Church missed two, but he
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  Speaker 1: got by Calais Campbell. I get it. This game didn't
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  Speaker 1: mean a whole lot, but you could have won that
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  Speaker 1: ball game. And Marcus Mariota they're fighting for their playoff live,
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  Speaker 1: and he shows you that it's tough to put those
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  Speaker 1: numbers up because when you look at what he did
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  Speaker 1: in two games last year, let me read he threw
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  Speaker 1: for two and fifteen yards a touchdown, an interception here,
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  Speaker 1: and he ran six times for twenty four yards. But
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  Speaker 1: they won big time out here. If you recall then
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  Speaker 1: that game you just saw he was and thirty four
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  Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. He did run ten times for
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  Speaker 1: sixty yards. Those aren't overwhelming numbers, but as plays like that,
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  Speaker 1: he's not the pocket passer. The last two weeks, we've
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  Speaker 1: seen Eli Manning and we've seen Tom Brady, and they've
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  Speaker 1: struggled with the pressure that this team has brought, not
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  Speaker 1: just the sacks, but the pressure pocket pressure. Um Mariota
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  Speaker 1: didn't worry about that. He gets out on the run
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  Speaker 1: and he's not that. He's not Russell Wilson, who is
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  Speaker 1: looking to extend the play to throw. He's looking to
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  Speaker 1: run and he does it so well. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting, Like you just said, how the past
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  Speaker 1: two weeks you've had that stay in the pocket, sling
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  Speaker 1: it down the field passers to adapt now to a
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  Speaker 1: completely different style of quarterback in six days. I think
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting how they adopted the escapability factor. And
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  Speaker 1: you know that those outside rush ends, the Gon Ways
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  Speaker 1: and the Laurento McCrae, who we have to put in
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  Speaker 1: the mix now because he's getting plenty of playing time,
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  Speaker 1: Dante Fowler. Those guys have to be conscious their rush
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  Speaker 1: can't be quite as wide as it is on a
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  Speaker 1: pocket passer because they can. They leave apps for Mariota
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  Speaker 1: to slide through other people out there going. Is Mariota
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  Speaker 1: even going to play? Who knows. If Blaine Gabbard plays, okay,
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  Speaker 1: then you play a conventional style. But Mariota is was
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  Speaker 1: working his way towards playing last week. Absolutely. Mariot is
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  Speaker 1: the engine that makes that thing go. There's two other
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  Speaker 1: players who are pivotal this week for the Titans, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the two old pro tackles Taylor Lawan, who is
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  Speaker 1: the dirtiest player in football. If he was on my team,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love him. But he's not. He is a dirty
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  Speaker 1: son of a gun. I watched on that Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: route a couple of years ago him take both feet
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  Speaker 1: off the ground and jump into the pile. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: care about hurting other people. He is a dirty player.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great player, but he is a guy who
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  Speaker 1: plays with an edge, I mean a razor's edge with
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  Speaker 1: the rules. Uh. He had a concussion last week. Who
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  Speaker 1: knows whether or not he'll be capable of playing this week. Um.
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  Speaker 1: If he is, that's a big lift for the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: It makes the job. Uh. Jack Conklin first round picked
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  Speaker 1: two years ago, All Pro as a rookie, sensational right
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  Speaker 1: tackle towards a c L in the playoff game last
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  Speaker 1: year and has been working his way back. He may
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  Speaker 1: or may not be ready to go. If they have
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  Speaker 1: those two All pros, they are much much better. But
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  Speaker 1: it's Mariota that makes them go, and the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 1: had trouble with him, so we'll see. That makes this
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  Speaker 1: a big game on Sunday. You know, I can share
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  Speaker 1: a story with you real quick. Uh, this morning, working
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  Speaker 1: out talking to people, uh, and they're still incredibly jacked
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  Speaker 1: up about the win. And immediately they started talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers game and said, who whoa whoa whole wait,
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  Speaker 1: whoa whoa? Yeah, yeah, we're all excited about the Steelers game.
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  Speaker 1: But that's in November. How about Sunday. That's Tennessee. What
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  Speaker 1: that's Tennessee. I'm not Tennessee. Doesn't excite me. Whoa whoa?
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  Speaker 1: They won four or five against that should it's a rivalry.
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  Speaker 1: But people, it wasn't just one guy. It was a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of like, yeah, you know, it was almost as
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  Speaker 1: if they brought everything for the Patriots game and didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave anything in the tank. But you've got one of
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  Speaker 1: the best teams in football, that's your team. Who cares
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  Speaker 1: who it is? There's tickets available, folks. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: there's tickets. There's empty seats for Sundays. Can get into
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  Speaker 1: the stadiums there. And I'm not talking just you know,
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  Speaker 1: like eight hundred tickets. There's like six thousand tickets available. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I was amazing, just aside. I was just amazed at
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee big deal. Who cares what? They beat you
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  Speaker 1: twice last year and they have won twenty six out
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  Speaker 1: of forty six games. They own this team. They have
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  Speaker 1: beaten this team regularly and sometimes handily. Uh and you
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  Speaker 1: play there on a Thursday night later in the season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and this was a team that was a very close second.
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  Speaker 1: In fact Mariota and that offense last year. Maybe it
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't Mariot and maybe it's Durelle Casey. Joe Casey had
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the derogatory comments about Blake right choking and then talked
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: about how are you. They may be the division champs,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: but they didn't beat us. I'm just I'm surprised that
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: people aren't more anxious for the Titans. But even that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: be anxious to see your team, right, And it's nice.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do agree that fans are saying that
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: my friends are like, yeah, Titans, but it's nice that
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: this locker room doesn't feel like that. For them. It's
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: not a huge, huge win against the Patriots. And already
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: focusing on next Sunday, people is a lot the people
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: who will be here will be loud. And by the
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: way the Duval thing on Sunday when they put it
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: up on the big board and the way that people
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: responded to it, you had ESPN commentators right calling it,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: hey down to Duval County. Right, you don't ever hear
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that anywhere else in the National Football League. They do
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: not refer to the county. Uh, they refer to the city.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And so the Duval thing is huge. All Right, My
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: rant is over. I hope you're buying tickets now, Yeah, exactly,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: all right. Final big thing then will take a break.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Big thing three is young talent. So you look at
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the two offensive weapons we saw the most on Sunday.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: One is twenty five years old and one is twenty
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: four years old. Keelan Cole in D D. Westbrook. Now
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: they're playing like they have way more experience than they
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: do well. Part of the reason why Flake Bordles is
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: playing so well is these young guys are coming through.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Last year we saw, you know, Cole came on in
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: October and started to make plays, really came through in
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: December the Seattle game, obviously his breakout. Dan Westbrook was
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: on age reserve for a big part of last year
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: with the indominal muscle and then came on late and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: made some plays, had a touchdown. Now you've got these
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: cats making plays like that. Unbelievable. Remember he's a guy
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: who's played just a little bit more than a season
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: from Kentucky Wesleyan making plays like that a hundred and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: sixteen yards against Bill Belichick. Right, you'd figure Bill Belichick,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Mark Kisley. That's the number one
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: guy they want to shut down. And look at the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: play that he makes, right, And then you have Westbrook
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with a sixty one yard touchdown. So these two guys
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: are number one and number two in terms of receptions.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Cole has ten in a touchdown, Westbrook has nine in
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the sixty one yard touchdown. No longer you're relying on
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the tight end and the backs to be your primary severs.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: These two guys are not only stepping up in the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: absence of Mark Easley, but they're creating their own space
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: within the offense. And you see these guys playing as
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: well as they are, and then you look at some
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: of the other young guys that you've got out there. Uh,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Corey Grants not a young guy anymore, but Leonard is
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: still a young guy Ryan and they're playing so well.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Young guys on defense. It's a youthful roster. It is
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a very young roster still, and they are playing near
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the top of the National Football League right now. It's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: promising to see that they trust this rookie class too.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I mean DJ Chark had four targets on Sunday. To
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: trust him another guy in a game like the Patriots,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think says a lot about how they trust this
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: rookie class. And we mentioned yesterday when you're looking at
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the salary cap for next year, this is when they
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: need a step well salary cap for the next couple
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of years because you're going to pay Jalen, Ramsey Unique
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and Gockway and Miles Jack in the very near future,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: which means young talent has to start performing at a
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: very high level. That's how you stay competitive even with
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a heavy, heavy salary cap. Just look at some of
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the other teams in the league and how they've done it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: The uh the Packers and the Patriots are two that
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: come to mind. Steelers as well. All right, that does
• 19:06
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• 19:09
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• 19:11
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• 19:13
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• 21:10
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• 21:16
  Speaker 1: oh thank you. I think fans are gonna like this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Ashlands Nelsons because I think Jaguars fans are fed up
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: on the national reputation of Blake Portals, especially after Sunday. Now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: An example of this is the CBS Sports pregame show
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: where they kind of insulted Blake. Take a look. Listen.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: If they're putting the game in Portles his hands, then
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know that the Jaguars did even bother showing
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: up because they're not gonna win. This isn't the Bills
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: game last year in the playoffs. We can run for
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: ninety yards and you know, basically score what it was
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: ten thirteen points and win the football game. Imagine from
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a JAG's perspective, sitting on what transpired last year full summer,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You're up ten points fourth quarter to go to the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you lose. Um. Wow, that's Brandon Tierney, who,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to his credit apologize, not apologists, but said, hey, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was wrong. You know what Jaguars man's let me have
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it I predicted wrongly. But even after this week and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you saw Blake's performance on Saturday, I don't think this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: is going to end sadly. Uh No, it It just
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: goes to show that even with a team that last
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: year earned a lot of the attention that had got,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it didn't get enough because a guy like that didn't
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: follow the progress of this team close enough. He stopped
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: at the Bills game if he had looked at the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Steelers game where they put the game on boordles shoulders
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and he made money throw after money throw in that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: divisional playoff game. I'm thinking of a couple of third
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and eight passes to Mark Keisley where he looked off
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the safety and came back almost without looking to the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: spot where he was at. You can put the game,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: or at least at times last year, you could lean
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: on Blake Bordles. Maybe not all the time in that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter in the a f C Championship game stands out,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: but on Sunday, from the start to the finish, they
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: leaned on him. So the national narrative is slow to change, right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of patients in this game, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's expensive to come to the games.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You see star players performing at a high level around
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the league. You know, if you want my attention in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: this diverse media world environment, right, well, then you better
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: do something. And when you don't win, people pay attention
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to someplace else. But the development of boardles over the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: last couple of years, which coincides really with Doug and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Nate coming in and building an offense and asking him
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to do things that fit his skill set and fit
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: their offensive and defensive personality. Um, the narrative should be changed,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: but sadly it's not going to change even after the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: game on Sunday. It's the low hanging fruit. And people
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in our profession when they start doing national stuff. I'll
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: just be honest. If we're talking about the Los Angeles
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Rams today, we might find some low hanging fruit that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: we could grab two because you and you can't focus
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: on all thirty two teams. However, if you're going to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: offer a hypercritical commentary on someone or something, you might
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: want to do a little bit more research than just
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to come off. That's not the kind of low hanging
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: fruit that you grab, right. You go into some depth
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that, right, And I think the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: prime example of that is him addressing the Bills game
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and not going further next step to look at the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Steelers game. But it was funny he came out on Twitter,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the guy that made that statement, and said that if
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Jaguars fans sent him the high Haters Portals T shirt,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he'll wear it on air next Sunday. All right there,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So I've got to think he's getting which is great.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And look, I mean to be honest with you, that's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: what guys like that one right in in the diverse
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: media world where on your phone or the laptop you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: can just watch anyone at any time and anyone can
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: have an opinion. How do you stand out? Well, you
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: stand out by pissing off fans of one team or another,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: right she did. And by the way, if you're gonna
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: piss off Jaguars fans, it's a little different than pissing
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: off Steelers fans, right, just in terms of number of fans. Um,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: so watch you'll take a shot at Roethlisberger because this
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was so successful for him. Yeah, hey, it it happened.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: But moral of this Ashlands analysis is we say that
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: we want it to change, and I don't know if
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: it will. So it might slowly, but it's not going
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to happen next week. Then maybe folks should follow the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: example of Tyrny and say I got thick skin, bring
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it because too, and oh with a win over the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Patriots that pushed them to a desperation move, which we'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: talk about in headlines in just a couple of minutes. Um,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that was good, you know, I mean, get thick skin.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it winning, winning yours at all? Great?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And Blake has thick skin. I bet he did. Thought
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he might have saw that, and he probably didn't care.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So fans take the same approach that Bordles doesn't him.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And it's worth noting he doesn't care what people are
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: saying outside Ryan, he doesn't. He doesn't worry about that
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: at all. But don't take that to me, and he
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't care. Look at his performance and look at what
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: he did last week in the community, right, that was awesome.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Nice tease last week, Blake Bortles on nine eleven, His
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: foundation is really supportive of first responders. That's who grew
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: up with in Ovido and himself and a few Jaguars
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: teammates went out to the pal of Jacksonville and spent
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the day with first responders. Take a look O. September
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: eleven is the day that we remember the importance of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: first responders. Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles and a few of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: his teammates spent this day hosting in an appreciation event
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for Jacksonville's heroes. The Jaguars wanted to give back to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the heroes of that tragic day seventeen years ago. The
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Jaguars still remember where they were during that time. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was a fourth grade and law elementary and ms Lewis's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: class umber. Thus yesterday, unfortunately, Mary unfortunate, um can't say
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they're watching on the news kinda as a young kid,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just not really understanding what was going on. First Responders
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: risked their lives to save countless people on nine eleven.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Jaguar's cornerback DJ he didn't has always appreciated their work,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: especially after first responder saved his own life during a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: freak accident on the football field at the University of Houston.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: The first responders, I mean, I kind of had a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: little experience with him, like back when I was in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: college of people just just how they react to stuff,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: like it's the job to boy react to situations and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: how they do it efficiently, just without kind of black
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a rule, but they just kind of just have to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: play about area. I mean, big ups to them and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a man with battle Man. They make this country a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: lot better. The Jaguars, alongside the Police Athletic League of Jacksonville,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: hosted Q and A and played games with kids while
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: discussing the importance of respecting law enforcement, the integraty, the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: courage if everybody that was a part of our day
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and and helping do whatever they could um to save
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: anybody they possibly couldn't noboten anywhere they could, I I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: thought was extremely admirable. Portal said he always wanted to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: be a firefighter when he was a kid if football
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: didn't work out. The jackson Little Fire and Rescue Department
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: awarded Blake with his own fire and had for his
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: efforts helping him live out a part of his child
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: good dream for Jaguars dot Com. I'm Ashlyn Sullivan, good stuff.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: My favorite part is the end when he puts up
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I like fireman's hat. I'd love to see him and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: John with his Bobby right with his his London police
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: officer at I think that might be a picture worth
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: taking next year for even if you haven't seen Blake
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: out in the community, if that's your first look at
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a story with him, he's consistent with it. I mean,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the guy gets it and the big smile. I saw one,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: uh picture that he took was up on Twitter, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: think the Jaguars putting on their site last night. Um
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: big spile on his face, enjoying himself. And I'm told
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that he and Chlais hung around for an hour afterwards
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to take photos. Not every starting quarterback in the National
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Football League does that and seems to enjoy it as
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: much as he does. So he doesn't let the brand
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Tyranneys of the world and the people who just use
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to take a shot at him. And he's one.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: He didn't bother him, so shouldn't bother you to either
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: give the attention. Don't give him the attention. Jags in
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the community every Tuesday, by the way, and I never
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: get tired of seeing players out there with the kids,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: especially in that place sixty kind of mode where they're
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: doing games and shooting basketballs and it's it's great to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: seeing a kid themselves. Yeah, this week, later on this afternoon,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the offensive line is going to go to Wilson Children's Hospital.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Brandon Linder do other offensive lamen are gonna go take
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a visit at Great Perspective. Great Perspective players around the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: league doing that every Tuesday. We'll take a break when
• 29:30
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• 29:33
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• 29:35
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  Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan On Tuesday, Jeff Loguman is in here about
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: ten minutes. John Osier returned tomorrow and obviously we have
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a big week. Is the Jaguars get ready for the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Titans on Sunday? First a f C South game. Jaguars
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: obviously want to claim the South title for a second
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: consecutive year. Time for tweets, tweets, tweets, top tweets never
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: gets sold. All right, let's start off with a throwback
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to Sunday. The Jaguars tweeted and instagramed a picture of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Sean Gibson, who was covering Grant for most of the game.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Comments shut down safety. The next comment is Jalen Ramsey,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: who is a big, big supporter of t Sean Gibson.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: They in quotations, but I learned to put some respect
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on his name. We aren't even worried about no matchups.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Believe that. I don't think that's what it says, since
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we ain't ever work. I was paraphrasing and the TV audience,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I totally get it, but I want to hear you
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in full Jalen mode. I don't think I can be
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Jalen more might be near impossible. What you'll be trying
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to mean was what he said afterwards, and he was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody went what And you know he's doing that just
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to screw with people. Um Gibson is a guy who
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: loves to talk to talk. He will stand there and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: he will talk about what a good player he is
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and why he should go to the Pro Bowl. And
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and by the way, he tends to talk in paragraphs, right,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, makes a period in there every once in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a while and let us ask another question. But he doesn't.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: He just keeps going. I love him because he's entertaining.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And on Sunday he backed it all up. Rob Gronkowski
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: is the most difficult tight end matchup in the NFL.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: The measurables. When you see six five to eighty, it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't do it justice because it doesn't have his arm length,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have the size of his hands. He doesn't
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: talk about how fast he is with that long, lanky body,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and to Shaun shut him down. And there was one
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: where he was coming to the end zone and Brady
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: lofted the ball up so that gron could get it,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and to Sean got in perfect position and may sure
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that Gronkowski could not get back to the ball. Um
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: all the talk is great when he proves it and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: backs it up like that. Absolutely, that kind of a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: performance stays in people's minds. And if he has a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: couple more, he's got a Pro Bowl spot lockdown, it
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: would be the second of his career. He deserves the respect.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Dalen has always, you know, said, respect this guy. Respect
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: this man. And we talked about it all last week,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the matchups with Gronkowski and this team, and they always
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: said this team said, you know, we're not worried about him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Were like, yeah, come on, We'll be honest. I watched
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the Giants tape and while I was watching the game
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: from the sidelines that Metlive stadium, I thought, they're picking
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on Gibson and it makes sense, right, You canna pick
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: on Boy, You're gonna pick on on Jalen, you gonna
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Miles Tell. But I mean, there's not a lot of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: spots you can pick on, so you're gonna you gotta
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: find some space you can go with the passing game
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and the middle of the field made sense. Uh. If
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a defensive or an offensive coordinator looking at this team,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: it may make sense to go after thirty nine. He's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: gonna make you pay for it like he did on Sunday. Yeah. Now,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: after watching that Patriots game, I think they would might. Yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: this defense does not have a lot of holes. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: congratulations to Gibson. It was a first rate performance on Sunday,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: all right. The next one comes from Lake Brantley High
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: School in Okalla. After the game, they pointed out Blake
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Bortles is b eleventh Strong and war Britain's band last night.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So Britain is a hometown of Vito student at this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: high school, a football star who is battling bone cancer,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and Blake has been wearing this wristband to support him
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in the past few weeks, and they pointed out after
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: his postgame press conference against the Patriots that he had
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it on during the game. He's connected the things that
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: matter to Blake, he cares about deeply. The things that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: don't matter that he can't control. He doesn't things like
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Jared Brandon Tierney. I can't remember his name, his opinion,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: his tweets, you know, whatever he says, we didn't care
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: about that Britain. Is that what you said the young
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: man's name is. He cares about that. And it's not
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: just wearing it so that he can talk about it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: He cares. No, he wouldn't have even addressed it if
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it wasn't for that picture capturing it. We never didn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: even known he had it on. But the people in
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: no Veto, No, he knows that they know, and when
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: people saw it, it's that's the that's the part about Blake,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and he got his hand and beat his chest about it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He cares deeply about the important things, and I don't
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a player connects so much with
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a town. Every time we interview him at a community event,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: he's always mentioning O Vito and the first responders. He
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: grew up with a Novito that you can tell he
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: cares a lot about the town he grew up in,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think when it's all said and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: done and he finishes his career as a professional football player,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: he will have the same thing to say about Jacksonville. Agreed,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: We hope. So all right, the last one, if you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: can recall a few months ago, part in my take
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: came here to Jacksonville and that was the classic Doug
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: in the pool picture. Yeah, it was good. So after
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the game they tweet what everyone's thinking, Boat over Goat
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is greater than Goat. We talked about it yesterday, Brian
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: best of all time, So Doug. They tweeted that Doug
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is no Bortles. After Sunday portals equals Boat. I still
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: don't get it, but I get there. One day. It
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: was a great performance on Sunday, the best regular season
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: performance of all day. Well, I mean, do I have
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to say it? Best of all time? The greatest of
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: all time? Isn't that not the same? Is that not Brady?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Kind of? But now they're saying bortlest Brady, it's now
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the greater sign to the boat. I get that, but okay,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm lost forget it. I'm all the story is part
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: of my take, and you know what, the beautiful part
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: about it is Blake gets it, but he's just doing
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: what he does not All right, that's top Tweets. Time
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: for NFL headlines, the big stories making news this morning,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this Tuesday, and we start with this. How about the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: fact that the New England Patriots yesterday sent a fifth
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: round pick to the Cleveland Browns for Josh Gordon. That look,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: if Josh Gordon is Josh Gordon, why are the Browns
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: trading him? I watched him in two thousand and thirteen.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: In December of two thousand thirteen, take a part the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Jaguars secondary. Ten catches, two hundred and sixty one yards
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and a ninety five yard touchdown. The Jacks could do
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: nothing to this guy. That year. He led the NFL
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: with sixty six receiving yards and he had nine touchdowns.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: He looked like he was on a trajectory to Randy
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Moss world right would land Okay? Um, I get that,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get the whole both thing. But the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: twenty landing give me a little credit. Um. And then
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: his addictions and he was known to have had substance
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: abuse issues when he was at Baylor. They kicked back
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: in so he's a non factor in fourteen, A non
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: factor in fifteen, a non factor in sixteen, and a
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: non factory in seventeen. Even when he got back, he
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: really was a non factor four years out of football.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: He's played eleven meaningful games since that two thousand thirteen season, eleven.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots, no, they don't have anything. The Jaguars
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: exposed them here on Sunday, and so they had to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just throw the lifeline out there. It is a desperation play. Yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: it's surprising, especially coming from Bill Belichick in a coach
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm watching hard hard knocks on training camp.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: It's you solve the problem he brought to the Browns.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that the Patriots bring in that problem despite
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the desperation. It shows you. It shows you that they
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: know they've got a forty one year old quarterback and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: they have to take advantage of it now because when
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you're forty one years old, I mean, all of a sudden,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it could just be done right. One significant injury, it
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: could all be over. I mean, I get why they
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: would do it, and it's a fifth round pick, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you have to have to see how desperate they must
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: be to take this one, because it's a lottery ticket
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. You either win big, or you
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: don't win at all, or and you bring problems into
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: your locker room. I think their locker room is pretty
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: strong with Tom Brady. I think they can overcome it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. We were up there last year when
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: they practiced with him, and Bill Belichick's presence is everywhere.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: He can take some guys and bring them. Josh Gordon
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: is not going to ruin what they've got going up there.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: The Patriot Way is way stronger than he is. But
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you're throwing a pick out there, and it kind of
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: says to the rest of your team, Hey, we really
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: don't know that we've got anything without unless we go
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and do this, because everybody knows Josh Gordon has been
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a massive disappointment. And I'll say this and we'll move on.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: If he was truly a difference maker, capable of making
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a difference right now, why wouldn't the Browns have him?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: They need that in the worst way. But they're moving on,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots hope that he pays off for them. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm moving right along. NFL headline number two. How about this? Uh,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick and Ryan Fitzpatrick which one owns fits magic, right?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly Ryan is fits Magic just by the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the outfit that he wore in the post game. Um,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't own it. Last week, Fitzpatrick, the safety
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: from Alabama who plays now for the Dolphins, when trademarked,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: how about that? How about that move? That's bold? He Yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: he must have the best agent in football. There's that's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the only way he does that fits Magic. People wonder
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: how long it will last in Tampa, Ryan, Ryan's been
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: all around the league. It may not last a whole
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: lot longer, um, but it appears it's going to be
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: in Miami for the long term. I mean, he's a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: great player when you watched him in college and he
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: definitely made a difference on the field. So you hope that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: But for the Dolphins it sticks around. Now it's trademarks,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: so it's going to stick around. Right For headlines, Our
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: final NFL headline of the day is, did you see
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer yesterday? So they cut the kicker that they
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: moved up into the fifth round. They traded two sixth
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: round picks to move up to take Daniel Carlson, And
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: when we were there, he looked great. He's a big kid,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: big long. You think you could be patient. You put
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a draft pick into this kid, he's a rookie. Uh.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: He missed three field goals on Sunday two in overtime,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and Mike Zimmer cut him yesterday and he was asked, well, well,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: what do you think I mean? You trade it up? Right?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: He said it was an easy decision. Quote did you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: see the game? Is what he said to a reporter.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And when he was asked about losing the draft picks,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he said, adds like water off a duck's back. So
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: they go grab Daniel Bailey, Yeah, the former rub Uh
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Cowboys kicker and bring him in. You know, you have
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a chance to win in Lambeau against Aaron Rodgers, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you missed that. It must make them sick this morning
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that they have missed that opportunity to have a game
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: lead on the best team in the division, or at
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: least the team with the best quarterback in the division,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: with a game changer, and they let that one get away.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I see both sides
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of it. Though you didn't make such an effort to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: get this kicker. Maybe give him a chance to redeem himself.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But losing in Lambeau because of you. One of the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: great quotes. Though. You know how coaches tend to, you know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: they say the right things. An easy decision. Did you
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: see the game they did? Yeah, when you put it
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that way, it's pretty simple. But a f C South
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: headlines then our break and Jeff Logham and joins us
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: for a segment here on Jack's drive time. Um, how
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson. Pressure doesn't worry me? So the Texans
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: offensive line last year gave up fifteen sacks in the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: first two ballgames ten did this club right? It doesn't
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: look any better right now because they've given up seven
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: sacks and twenty one hits on quarterback Deshaun Watson. They've
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: already lost the left tackle Shawn Trell Henderson and Zach
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Fulton who came in as an offensive guard. It's it's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: not making a big difference right now, and they understand
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that they've got to figure away to fix that or
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: their quarterback isn't gonna last the season. But Deshaun Watson,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: true to for him, pressure doesn't worry him. I mean,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: he's a mobile quarterback. He can rhyme. But to say
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't worry him. When you see those defensive lineman running
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: towards you, it might worry a little. When he stood
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: in the pocket. He made some amazing throws on Sunday. However,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: when the assure came, there were some throws that weren't
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: all that good. All right. Next a f C South Headline,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: we talked about the tackles. The Titans hope they have
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Taylor the Wan and Jack Conklin on the field. They
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: were both on the sideline on Sunday. Now Titans got
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the win. Blane Gabbert was, Okay, did enough for them
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to win, But if they're gonna bring Marcus Mariota back,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: especially with the elbow, then they hope they have those
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: two tackles. And our final a f C South headline
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: is Darius Leonard, the second round draft choice from South
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Carolina State. Eighteen tackles, a sack, and a forced fumble.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of times through training camp and
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: through the preseason they hype young players and then it
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: takes him time. They don't always evolved. They've been talking
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: about this Leonard kids since draft day, and boy did
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: he come up big. Al Wood, one of the leaders
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: on their defense, said, this kid is a star in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the making, and eighteen tackles later, it wore it. It
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: worked out that way South Carolina State. There's football players
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: everywhe football players everywhere, you just have to go and
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: find them. All right, we'll take a break to back.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Jeff log Himan joined us share his thoughts on the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Patriots game. Maybe even get a couple of thoughts from
• 44:09
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  Speaker 1: time on a Tuesday morning. Time to visit with Jaguars
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: analysts Jeff Logaman who last night, great film Room, segment,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Great show room. It's always great to have Blake on
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: because I heard you mentioned earlier that how good he
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is in the community. But he's such a good guy,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think Jacksonville really should appreciate that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: And because all quarterbacks aren't wired that way, you know, Jack,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you've been around there. Kind of diva's you know. I mean,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I've been around time, like you know, Boomer Sisson and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: he was kind of a diva. Kenny O'Brien was kind
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: of a diva I'm just joking. I mean, this guy's good. Guys. Well, look,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you know how you can look at a tweet and
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: people can fake things. You can tell who's genuine and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: who's not. But you see the picture this morning of
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Moose a fixture he's he's become his own celebrity. But
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the fixture that the picture of Moose and Blake together
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and the smile on Blake's face says I'm happy to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: be here. It doesn't say it rather be somewhere else,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people might think he would or
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: some other players are. Um. When you see that, you think, man,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: we really have something in this. When you've got a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: player who's willing to come spending for people like that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and uh and as much criticism as he receives outside
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the market, you know, when you when he does good,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say that you celebrate at the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: level that he would, right, but you know you're happy
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: for him, you know, I mean that's just human nature
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that you want to support kind of the underdog, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he's kind of the underdog because he gets beat up
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: so much, and you know, I'm good for him. The
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: more he gets beat up and the more he continues
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to prove people wrong. The better it is for us.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's great. No one knows him like you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: do watching the tape, No one watches as much of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: him as you have. So what did you see that
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you really liked from him on Sunday? Just in control,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: you know, And when I did the film segment last night,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm focusing in on his pocket presence, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and pocket presence is really about feet and eyes what
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: are they doing? And when he's into pocket, his feet
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: are never panicked. His eyes were always where they needed
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: to be, which was down the field. They never dropped
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to inspect the rush. And I think that's just it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: It goes to show you how confident that he is
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and what he's doing and how familiar. And I guess
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: you could say thorough that he's involved in the game plan,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: because you know, you can't execute and be that way
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: unless you're you're totally immersed in it and you're living it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And I think that that's the point where he's at.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it was interesting talking to Nathaniel Hackett and
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I think we're sitting on the film thing, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I think it goes up in films practice when we
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: were up in Minnesota and as before practice, you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: and we're just hanging out and shooting the breeze, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I was asking him about, you know, about how long
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: does it take quarterbacks with his experience and and his
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: experience to really know a system, and he said three years. Well,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this is your two. And a lot of people kind
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: of take the assumption while it's not really your two,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: it's it's your five or your four. In this system,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it's not, you know, it's your two. And so it
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: kind of gives me great confidence that, hey, look, if
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: he's making the improvement from last year, that will last
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: year alone in the latter part of the season, and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: then this year he seems to be making a jump.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And also, let's not forget he's got a healthy risk.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: You know, last time I checked. That's pretty good for
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, I mean, have a healthy risk on
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the throwing hand, yes, And uh so, it's just it's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: very encouraging and and it's good for this football team.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: And and I also do kind of wonder kind of
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to go along maybe a little side path of that
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: conversation with him, is Leonard Fournette not being a part
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: of the line up I was just gonna ask you
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that can this offense be is diversified when he's back there,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: When he's back there, That's that's the thing that I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: hope that happens, you know, because the numbers don't lie.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers are clearly there that when Leonard
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: four Nette is not going to be a part of
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the plan, because I look, I understand Doug Brone said that,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it went up until Saturday. They made a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: decision on Leonard Fournette, and that's hogwash. You know, you
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: don't make a last minute decision on your running back, okay,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury at the last second. You just
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: don't do that. That's just not it's not smart. And
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: so I think he's just saying that, you know, it's look,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it's a little gamesmanship, and I get it. Uh, but
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: can you come up with game plans that are that
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: are that and that are that creative, that are less
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: leaning on Leonard Fournette when he's playing. And I think
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that's a challenge. And look, I get it, some games
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the game plan is gonna be feed Leonard Fournette because
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna take to win. But it would
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: be nice to have Leonard Fournette and have a little
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: bit of diversity, kind of like what we saw with
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Las yep. And we saw the two back set
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: against Atlantic here in the preseason where they had him
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: in Corey on the field at the same time. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, or at least it looks like they're
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: thinking along those lines. They got to find a way
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to stay diversified when he's out there. Yeah, I think so.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And and because you know, I think t J and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Leonard are are kind of the same type of backs.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the same style and they're they're
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: equally as good. I'm not saying that. I'm saying they
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: can do kind of similar roles. Corey Grant is kind
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: of that that X factor, you know that I think
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: really adds a dimension to the offense that you just
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: don't have, you know, when he's not there. That twelve
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: yard runn he had where he put his shoulder into
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour on the sideline was also that I almost cheered,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: because everyone talks about him being this little scat back.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: He's not. He's well the one that the thing I
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: think the one play that he had that really impressed
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: me was he went along the sideline and he cut
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: back in and he kind of did this little spin thing.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Take it. That's a fifteen million dollar corner here, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick up a little bit for
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the defense the defender here, and then if you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: if all of a sudden you'd lower your shoulder right
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: at the sideline, you're gonna be borderline getting a penalty,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just love the effort.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I like it that at the same time because you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: because he's my guy, he's our guy, you know. But
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: at the same token as a former defensive player, I'm like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you know, come on, man, this was a pretty big
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: run too, you know, on a third and long he
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: finds it a run to the outside. Hey, how did
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Wells he do? Josh did pretty good? Uh? Was there
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: was there? I can let me say this. I don't
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: think there was any drop off with him in the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: game as as if you had Cam Robinson in the game.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And that's not any kind of criticism of Cam. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: think it's more of a compliment of Josh Wells and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: his performance. He gave up I think one hit on
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, and it was just it wasn't really a
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: big hit. He gave up a couple of pressures. I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: mean that's Cam has been kind of doing that too,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: So I think it was about equal. You've been talking
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: about him since he arrived as a rookie from James
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Madison and and that he had upside and they needed
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to develop him. Is he at his ceiling or can
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: he play better? Well? I think anytime a player gets
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: more more reps, I think they get naturally get better.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So I think the more reps that he's gonna get,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: even though he's been around the league for a few years,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: we kind of say, well, he's not He's kind of
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: is what he is. Well, not necessarily because you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes you just gotta play in order to get better
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and see things that you haven't seen to get better.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna get better. I think there
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: is a limit on how good he can be, but
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I think that within his abilities, I think he can
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: get better. The one thing I think that concerns me
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: somewhat is that Josh has never really proven to be
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: able to stay healthy, whether he's been playing and years,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: whether he's been a backup, so you know, I mean
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: fingers crossed, knocking on. Would I know the which somewhere
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: underneath this you know this cheap four Micael uh uh? So,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I hope that that he can stay healthy.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: The good thing is is that I don't know if
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you remember I was talking earlier in the season and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: at the last preseason game, which is typically a throwaway
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: game and everybody kind of ignores, which you know, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: get it. It's fourth preseason game. And we saw Josh
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Walker play in that fourth preseason game against Tampa ay
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Bucks and nearly played the entire game left tackle. He
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: made this football team from that fourth preseason game how
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: well he played left tackle. And I think that that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: game showed that this football team, this guy's got great
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: value because they knew he was a good guard. He
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: has already proven that he was a good guard, but
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: that game against Tampa and the fourth preseason game showed
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: them he has other abilities. And that's the play left tackle.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: So there's your next man up for left tackle. Josh
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Walker now becomes your seventh man on game day. And
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: that's what Maron said yesterday. The solution was within your house.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Now He's mentioned yesterday that the reason he prepares everyone
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: to be a starter is this time right now, because
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: now they can just shooting, which I thought was interesting.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So and I'm very disappointed for Cam Robinson left a
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: c O. And uh, I hope that and I expect
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: he's going to come back and and he's gonna be
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: fine for next year. And I hate to say this,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: but I mean kind of a blessing that happened early,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna have it, you know, Unlike
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the Tennessee Titans, where okay,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: they're right, tackle did it late in the year and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: he's still not back, and you know what, he shouldn't
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: be back probably until December. They were being smart about it,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you know. So where Cam Robinson no issue for next year.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on Tennessee on Sunday. I get that we don't
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: know about Marcus Mariota, but this team has not done
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: a good job against Mariota, not in terms of numbers,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: but last year in December, third down and our second
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and six and he gets seven, third and five and
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: he gets thirteen these two runs here. The running thing
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: is the biggest concern I think him because he's got
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that X factor. Kind of like what teams were thinking
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: about with Blake Bortles. And when you watch the film
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: so far this year with Marcus Mariota, look how he
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: gets underneath has been very good. That's Millie Jackson, you know,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's a Pro Bowl tackle that
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: he got underneath there. So yeah, he's he's a good martat.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Mario is a good football player and good football plat.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: As far as a runner, I don't say he's a
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: good quarterback. He's not there yet. And when you watched
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: him in their first game against the Miami Dolphins, because
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: that's the only game you look at from regular sees
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the standpoint that he played, I hope he had an
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: injury with his with his arm at the point that
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the game, because he made a couple of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: throws that you went, oh my gosh, that's terrible. I
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: mean it was, it was terrible. And then obviously he
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: left the game in Miami and he came back for
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a bit poor again, and then Gabert came in for
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the for the rest of the game, and Gabert is
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: you know, we know who Blake Gabert is. He's got
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: a strong arm. He's got some mobility. He beat his
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: foot ball team last year in Arizona. You know so.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: But the tackle situation in Tennessee is a little bit
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: concerning because you know, left tackle Teller Lawan in that
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Miami game sustained a concussion. And I'm gonna tell you
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: watching the film, because I watched both of their games.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Watching that film, it was Andre Branch, former Jaguars now
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: plays for the Miami Dolphins, hit him, and a lot
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: of people said it was dirty. It was a hit
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: blow to the head. He didn't make contact to tell her,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the one's head at all. He hit Teller one and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the shoulder and the head literally the snap of the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: head before he hit the ground, Teller Lawan was limping out,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I mean out. And so I'm looking at that hit
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: going and I'm thinking back to to the Jaguars game
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee where I thought the tailor wants sustained a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: concussion in that game and didn't come out, and I'm going, Okay,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: this guy here, I mean to take a hit like
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that without a direct blow to the head, I mean,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that's it's kind of like a boxer. He's been boxing
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit too much and he's take a little
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: bit of a break, know, so, uh so that's a
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: question mark with them. And then obviously Jack Conklin was
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the guy who's sustaining the A c L to his
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: kneed and he's still and he's still not playing, so
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: they've they've done a couple of different things with the tackle.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw this too, but
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly, who started in the hospital last week, he
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: was in the hospital, so he didn't even play for
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: them last well, so they had to recall a guy
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: or bring a guy up off the practice squad to
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: get uh and it was Tyler Mars who played right tackle,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and then Kevin Pamfill played left tackle for them. So
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you talked about digging deep defined guys to start a
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: tackle and bla blak gabbertt without Delaney Walker also did
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: enough last week that they could beat the Texans. So
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: one of one of the reasons why it happened, first
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of all, Derrick Henry. Further, they got very creative with
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the game plan, and uh, Matt Lafleur, who was the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and Sean McVeigh with the Rams, but he
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: reeled but the coordinator, we all know that Sean mcvas
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the coordinator with the Rams, right, I took the job
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: as a coordinator under Mike Rabel, and can you imagine
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: going in the game. I got my backup quarterback, I've
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: got backup tackles and in one case, a third team
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle, and my best tight end Pro Bowl tight
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: end is not available either. So what are you gonna
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: do for a game plan? It's not easy. So what
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: he did is they actually took Derrick Henry and did
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: wildcat and did like six consecutive snaps and Derrick Henry
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: did that you lea and and it was effective. They
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: moved the ball down to the field, got first down.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Then eventually Blaine Gabert came back in to play the
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: quarterback position even though he's on the field for the wildcat.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: But impressive. And then the one guy that really stood
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: out was Corey Davis. I was gonna ask you final thought,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: does Corey Davis make up for the loss of Umlanny Walker? No,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: because I mean, you gotta have you got multiple targets.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And right now when you look at Tennessee, you know
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Corey Davis is really the only weapon. You know. The
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Taiwan Taylor speed Uh, can make some place. But I
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: mean he's look Delanny Walker, I think besides Gronk. Yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's I think the best tight end football before.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the numbers, they back
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: it up. You always seem to make that third down
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in nine catch. It's this team. He's good. He's really good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm unfortunate injury for him. Uh, fortunate for other
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: teams in the NFC South. Thanks for your time, which
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: you got a filmer on Friday. Uh, well, I think
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you're gonna like it, because we're gonna we're gonna look
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: at you like pancakes. I love pancakes too. I had
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: three of them this morning. I like mine with chocolate. Yeah, okay.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: And I got pancakes from this past game awesome. Okay,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I got Norwell with one okay, And there was a
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: three stack of pancakes on one play. We're gonna show that. Uh.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: We're also gonna look at you know, there's you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: there's some guys that are always working the sideline and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: uh that do filming and video and audio and such.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And I got a shot of this guy on the sideline.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I'm talking it's like Richard Simon esque. Okay,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I know where you're going with that. Okay, so uh
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: tuned in, tune in for that and then uh and
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: then well we'll show you the proper way to address
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: on sideline. Awesome. So and then we'll also look at
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans and uh, by the way, uh, their
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: football team is pretty good on defense. Great, look forward
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: to it Filmber on Friday, coming out on Friday. Well,
• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:13
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