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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, October 31 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars Football's got her at
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  Speaker 1: the clunty, He's at the tent, He's at the five C.
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  Speaker 1: Simmucks Touchdown Jack Jaguars. Did you know Jack Jaguarris? Did
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  Speaker 1: you know? Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex Steps, John oh
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  Speaker 1: Jo Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Thursday Morning Jaguars Drive Time, brought to you by the
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  Speaker 1: Fields Auto Group. Happy Halloween to all. We were too
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  Speaker 1: busy to dress up today. We got too much going
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  Speaker 1: on for costudents going to London. Yes today this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to give the grand introduction for our
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  Speaker 1: Thursday co host? Do you think I got it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was here last week. It was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a triumph and he killed it. So now our co
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  Speaker 1: host every Thursday morning, Mr thank you, Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me. Never one in your heart. Nubra. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about you yesterday with a guy who
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  Speaker 1: is one of your neighbors, and that's Josh Allen. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and um we talked about him last week and he
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  Speaker 1: went out last week and came up with two sacks
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  Speaker 1: and the forced fumble. Have you had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: spend any time watching him yet I have, I have.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't invited me over yet. That is just rude.
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  Speaker 1: But um, like, man, I watched his sex and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it must be nice to be young, fast
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  Speaker 1: and athletic. I remember that I miss it, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean he looks spectacular. One of his moves was just
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  Speaker 1: fast off the Baldi dip and then he got around
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  Speaker 1: the corner and reach and got a seck fumble. It
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  Speaker 1: was sweep or he didn't know that he lived near you,
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  Speaker 1: And when I said that he did, I said, he'll
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  Speaker 1: probably read you, probably have you over, So maybe you
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  Speaker 1: have to invite him first. But he's a good kid,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a guy with an incredibly bright future, right,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I invite him over because like I'm the
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  Speaker 1: old guy's taking care of the young guy, right, and
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  Speaker 1: I like teach him before he has more sex than like, look,
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  Speaker 1: you need to do it like this, right, right, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can take credit for it that it was
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  Speaker 1: all you. Everyone wants to be king a half. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: why I teach you everything I know? Yeah, Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: is actually dressed up as Batman today. Yes, you go
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  Speaker 1: anywhere on Twitter or Instagram it's it's all over there,
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  Speaker 1: that phenomenal. He has killed the Halloween game. Apparently, Cali
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  Speaker 1: has told us last time and all access it is
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  Speaker 1: a requirement that all workies dressed up today and they
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  Speaker 1: keep their outfit on throughout the entire game that entire day.
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  Speaker 1: So concerned and also interested if they are going to
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  Speaker 1: wear it on the plane. Well Man said he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: write he was, but maybe that was all like his
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  Speaker 1: scheme to like surprise he was gonna be uh with White,
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  Speaker 1: the dodgeball character, and I can't remember not from the
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  Speaker 1: White Goodman. That's it. That's gonna be exhausted right, far
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  Speaker 1: from comfortable, but I'm all for it. Let's hit big
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  Speaker 1: things and get the show start, all right. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: one is the quarterbacks. It's crazy that this game is
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  Speaker 1: marketed as Gardner Minshew versus Deshaun wats when you have
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  Speaker 1: someone like Leonner for net killing at this season, Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew is the face of this game. But Dug Brown
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  Speaker 1: tells us you have to keep your eye on the
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. I don't know what he doesn't do well,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't, And I think it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: great challenge for our defense, it really is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he is playing um as well as anyone. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you're you're in that today and you
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  Speaker 1: know you you you guys have a you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: sure you guys will have fantasy football teams. But if
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  Speaker 1: you had a real football team and you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: put a ball in someone's hand at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game, if he'd be the guy, you probably want
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  Speaker 1: to put it into it. So it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: great challenge for us. Big thing too, is the decision
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  Speaker 1: the elephant in the room who's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback after the bye weekn Nick Foles or Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew Gardner. Minshew has been listening to dug rown because
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  Speaker 1: he says, I'm not worried about that right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is too big of a game to
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  Speaker 1: really think about anything else. You know, we're sitting at
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  Speaker 1: a pivotal point, you know, four and four, playing a
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  Speaker 1: divisional opponent that just this will be the last time
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  Speaker 1: it gets played down. So it's uh, it's definitely a
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  Speaker 1: big and finally, big thing three is a look at
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  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. A great run defense, a struggling past defense,
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  Speaker 1: but You're really looking more so at how the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: defense isn'tna stop this offense. DeAndre Hopkins, Deshaun Watson and
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line. That's more so the thing we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at today. Man, there are so many storylines as this
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  Speaker 1: team gets set to leave in London, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to start back at the top with the quarterbacks. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked a lot about Gardner Minshry here, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in your thought on Deshaun Watson. And he
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  Speaker 1: came out of Clemson a very accomplished college quarterback, and
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  Speaker 1: people wondered was he big enough, did he have a
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  Speaker 1: strong enough arm? Uh? Now they just wonder how great
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be. It's funny how things turned quickly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's answering all those questions. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I was when he came out of college. I hate
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  Speaker 1: to say this, I thought he was just gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the typical runaround and make things happen with his legs.
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  Speaker 1: And he's sitting in the pocket throwing the ball really well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of course he's athletic and he's making plays,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't think he was gonna be this this good,
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  Speaker 1: And it is surprising to see how well he's fitting
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  Speaker 1: into that role with with Houston, I mean, like, who
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  Speaker 1: would have thought that this guy would be holding the
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  Speaker 1: franchise on his shoulders this early. Well, they're transitioning. Now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we had Mark vander Meir from the Texans
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday. That was a team whose identity was built
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  Speaker 1: in J. J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney went merciless, and now
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, JJ's Donne, Clowney's in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: and this whole thing is on Deshaun Watson's shoulders. And
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  Speaker 1: then a lot to lose J J. Wat. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he was like, he gets hurt time and time again,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, he's starting to get up there in age
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  Speaker 1: and now you know, I'm pretty sure he's thinking about
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  Speaker 1: calling the quiz at to all those surgeries. And then
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  Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that's donna had to take another
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  Speaker 1: part of the team and put him on his back,
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  Speaker 1: so let's score as many points as possible because we
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  Speaker 1: may suffer a little bit on defense, and he has
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  Speaker 1: to put that in the back of his mind and
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  Speaker 1: play football. He um, he really has been remarkable and
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  Speaker 1: and lost in all of that is DeAndre Hopkins, who
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  Speaker 1: is a monster receiver. He's not had that monster season yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh the last two weeks he's he's reignized. Did how
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  Speaker 1: in the world And we're gonna talk about this later,
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  Speaker 1: but how in the world do you stop that that
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  Speaker 1: tandem that combo? Hold on, folks, We'll try to have
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  Speaker 1: an answer for that coming up a little bit. How
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  Speaker 1: about the other kid minshew just continues last week three touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: which is a Jaguars rookie record. Um the throw he
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  Speaker 1: made the d J Chark in the corner of the end,
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  Speaker 1: jone Ya. How do you defend that? You can't. You can't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's and and to be honest, that's a young
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  Speaker 1: man's play because you're not gonna see someone in their
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  Speaker 1: thirties surviving that like he he's not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I seen him trying to run to the
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  Speaker 1: sideline one time. It just looked awful. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's forty plus run. It's killing him. So menshow, that's
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  Speaker 1: just you know, being athletics, still fresh, not taking a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of hits, and then still having no awareness
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  Speaker 1: to look up the field and throw the ball. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, some things you just can't coach. Some things
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  Speaker 1: you just gotta have and he has that. He has
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  Speaker 1: that it and he gets he makes that play at
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  Speaker 1: the end, and I love it. How do you defended?
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  Speaker 1: You don't you survive it? Like you have to survive
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  Speaker 1: because that's like when you go into the meeting room
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  Speaker 1: as a defense, people like, you know, you guys did
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  Speaker 1: everything right and he still made the play. So that's
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  Speaker 1: good defense, better offense, and we can live with that
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  Speaker 1: because that's not going to happen that often in again,
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  Speaker 1: except for that kid team twice. Well, I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: Texans are preaching defensively, trying to keep him in the
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  Speaker 1: pocket as much as they can, because we've seen what
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  Speaker 1: he can do when it's scrambled football, everything out the window.
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  Speaker 1: I think both teams are Actually that's the game plan
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  Speaker 1: for both teams, keeping the quarterback in the pocket because
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  Speaker 1: like you know, with Big Ben ross and Bury, when
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  Speaker 1: he got outside the pocket, he hurt everyone because now
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  Speaker 1: it's like everyone freestyles the corners, the back end, don't
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  Speaker 1: know who to cover and where everyone's going, and it
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  Speaker 1: just prolongs to play and then next thing, you know, touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So here's the biggest of the big things,
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  Speaker 1: all right, the decision um and it's all it's really
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  Speaker 1: it's been we haven't. We haven't. Dwelt on, do you
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  Speaker 1: think we've really we haven't. It's been. But the next
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  Speaker 1: current and if Minshew goes in plays well, and I
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  Speaker 1: think all of us expected to against the depleted secondary
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  Speaker 1: now a depleted front for the Texans, it just brings
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  Speaker 1: this thing right back center. And next week we'll be
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  Speaker 1: talking because the Jags bye week. Immediately after the bye week,
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  Speaker 1: when the Jaguars go back to the practice field, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles is eligible to return. So you know, where do
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  Speaker 1: you see this from your perspective looking at at the
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  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, knowing how a locker room is going to react,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Um? I think that we go
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  Speaker 1: with Nick because hear me out, he hasn't done anything wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Minshew has been playing great, but it's still
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  Speaker 1: Nick's job to lose. Like you don't, you don't sideline
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  Speaker 1: someone that you know, you bring in, You give him
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of money. He's won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: You do not put that on the bench. You have
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  Speaker 1: to allow him to give that up. Now, if he
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  Speaker 1: goes out there and he's not playing well and he's
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  Speaker 1: hurting its Sam. You know, you give him a couple
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  Speaker 1: of opportunities to correct that stuff. But if he can't,
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  Speaker 1: now you have to you have to do what's best
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  Speaker 1: for the team. Like everyone thinks that putting Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: in there isn't good for the team, we don't know that, right.
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  Speaker 1: We have to put him in and see if he's
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  Speaker 1: he still hasn't and he's good for the team. And
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  Speaker 1: if he's winning, no one's going to complain. Why don't
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  Speaker 1: have you heard the question asked of of a guy
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  Speaker 1: like in Avery Jones or Calais Campbell about this yet?
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in how the locker room reacts when if
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  Speaker 1: if you have a five and four quarterback, right, And
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest. When he went into the lineup after
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  Speaker 1: his August where he was he did didn't score touchdown
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  Speaker 1: in August, they had three field goals. I turned to
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, I went, we were screwed because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think this kid was ready to play. And of course
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  Speaker 1: he's proven that he is ready to play in many
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  Speaker 1: respects um and he's played well and he's earned the respect.
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  Speaker 1: We have watched players line up after they've scored lined up.
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  Speaker 1: Veteran defensive stars line up to go and give this
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  Speaker 1: kid congratulations? How do they re if the Jaguars say,
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  Speaker 1: we get that, but this is a Super Bowl MVP.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting to November and December when the season starts
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  Speaker 1: to get sticky and fast. Um, and this is a
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  Speaker 1: guy who the last two years just led the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: deep into playoffs. We're going to fold has a locker
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  Speaker 1: room respond. They have to support that because it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a it's a management you know question. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's something that like, hey, management wants to go with Folds.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to support that and hopefully everything works out.
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  Speaker 1: Because Nick Foles is a teammate. It's not like it's
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  Speaker 1: so we got to support our team no matter who's
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  Speaker 1: at the helm. Right. And I think that once he
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  Speaker 1: gets out there, he gets his barons back. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to throw the ball around and still has success. Are
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  Speaker 1: we trying to say that the quarterback is the only
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  Speaker 1: reason that we're winning. No, Right, get a ball to
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  Speaker 1: Leonard and then play action. Let Nick do his thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he looks good warming up. We watched him warm
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  Speaker 1: up in Denver. Yeah, he know, he's looking more than healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure he has to
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  Speaker 1: feel a little bit of pressure. Like you know, you
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  Speaker 1: you come here to turn the program around and you
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  Speaker 1: get teams right, and then the guy behind you is
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  Speaker 1: doing your job. So it's like I gotta I gotta
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  Speaker 1: bring my a game. It is a good thing to have, though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been here, we've been here where you
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  Speaker 1: didn't have options, and that isn't that doesn't it well,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't make anybody happy, right? What do
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  Speaker 1: they used to say? They probably still do whoever they is.
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  Speaker 1: If you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one. But
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  Speaker 1: in this case, you have two quarterbacks and you have
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  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. I mean, if you think about when Dave
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  Speaker 1: took over Byron left with I mean Byron, you know
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  Speaker 1: he felt that pressure. He felt that pressure and he
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  Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I have to turn it up
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  Speaker 1: and it made him a better quarterback, but he and
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  Speaker 1: he still lost his job at the end, and what
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  Speaker 1: happened to the team We got better? Right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this can happen to or you know, Nick can come
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  Speaker 1: in and give Nick the opportunity to do what he's
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  Speaker 1: been doing. That's all I'm saying, he won a super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: so he got hurt. Let's see if he can get
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  Speaker 1: back on track and win another super Bowl. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if any of us know Nick Foles personally well enough, um,
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  Speaker 1: because he wasn't I mean, he was around, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as if we got to know him through press
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  Speaker 1: conferences and things. Because he got hurt. And then Minshew
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  Speaker 1: comes in and we all feel like we know him. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of a sense that these two guys can
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  Speaker 1: handle it. But that's just that's just a gut reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I think Minshew has such
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  Speaker 1: a great personality that everyone feels like they can like
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  Speaker 1: sit down and have a drink with him, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas Nick you don't see that, like he's like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: here to throw the football and help my teammates win goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas Minshew comes in like, hey, I love everybody. We're
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  Speaker 1: a family, and we're gonna win. And and that's exciting,
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  Speaker 1: especially in Jacksonville because this is such a you know,
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  Speaker 1: homely little city. It's not New York where everybody just
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  Speaker 1: goes their own way. We're all like to stay together.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if Nick can come in and just
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  Speaker 1: show a little more personality, you know, be that guy
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  Speaker 1: that everybody wants to see and win some games. Would
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  Speaker 1: love him. I honestly think he can act however he
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  Speaker 1: wants da. If he's winning games, I'm not caring if
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  Speaker 1: he's press conference or not. My question is, though, and
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this a few times, you know, you say,
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  Speaker 1: give him a chance. You know, if he doesn't play well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. But does this team have the wiggle room
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  Speaker 1: to go in there and maybe if Nick doesn't play
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  Speaker 1: well lose a game. Do they have that option right
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  Speaker 1: now when they're so close right now? Um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they have that option. But have you thought
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  Speaker 1: that maybe Mintel was playing well because he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: the pressure of the whole because he wasn't He's doing
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  Speaker 1: things we didn't expect he would be doing. And now
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have, like, you know, that that pressure up.
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  Speaker 1: I have to do what they paid me to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money to do. He doesn't have that pressure,
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  Speaker 1: so he can just come in and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fun, I'm gonna play football, and uh
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna win. Whereas Nick has all that pressure and
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  Speaker 1: so if Minshew can just hand the keys off to
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  Speaker 1: Nick and he goes back into that that that backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: he feels like I did a good job. I made
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  Speaker 1: a little name for myself, and I don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about it. You know, this is gonna sound like
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  Speaker 1: a cop out, but I'm alright with whatever decision they made,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean really, because I believe that the plan
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  Speaker 1: that they put in place with Nick and the eight
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  Speaker 1: eight million dollars guaranteed was money well spent and a
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  Speaker 1: plan well defiesed. Uh. And let's not forget his last
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  Speaker 1: throw was a gorgeous rainbow of a touchdown to d
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  Speaker 1: J Jark, the likes of which I don't remember. I
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  Speaker 1: mean mark through some pretty passage to Jimmy Smith, Byron
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  Speaker 1: Leftwich that Dave, they all have done it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if I've seen one like that where it went
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  Speaker 1: up and down right on the spot. Right. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: okay if that's their decision, because I can see that
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  Speaker 1: working very very well. And then of course every week
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  Speaker 1: we've seen Minshew get better and then struggle and then
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  Speaker 1: get better from that. But how many games do we
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  Speaker 1: give Nick? I mean, like he's been hurt, he's coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but you can won two games and if
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  Speaker 1: you don't see, you know, the success, do you start,
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  Speaker 1: you know, making that or how many games will you
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  Speaker 1: give him before you say we need to put men
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  Speaker 1: back in. Well, it goes back to what Ashton was saying.
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  Speaker 1: So Sunday's game is as must win as it can
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  Speaker 1: get because if you lose two games to the Texans
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  Speaker 1: with the Colts out in front right now in the division,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: can't happen. You're behind, You're behind the Texans. Now. You
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: need that team with that quarterback to lose two, three
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: or four games down, that's not gonna happen, no, right,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So you have to go and get this one, and
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: then you have the Colts and then you have the Texans.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: The one thing that that I have confidence in in
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Nick is he's been through this before two thousand and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: seventeen in Philly, two thousand and eighteen in Philly Super Bowl,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: deep playoff run. He knows what's its day now, as
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you said, Minshoo doesn't know what to say. And maybe
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that's not as big a deal for him. Maybe that
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: let's him play more free. I don't know, it's I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: have no clue what they're gonna do, but I'll be
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: excited for either one. I was excited for Nicky. As
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: long as they win, everyone's happy. I don't I don't
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: care who you put out there. As long as we
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: get the W we're good, right, that's killer. It was
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: interesting yesterday on Good Morning Football is the first time
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: we kind of heard mins. She discussed this and he
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: was asked, are you the starting quarterback of the Jaguars.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: He said, any halfway competitive guy wants to keep their job.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. I mean, any halfway
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: competitive football player wants to be the starter, period. But
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I understand, you know, the whole team thing. So it
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: was kind of shutting some light. He's been around a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: long time feeling. You'll recall from our preseason television production
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: meetings where we spent a lot of time around Gardner
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: because he was the guy every week with him. He
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: talked about Nick in the meeting rooms John D. Philippo,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: working through the offense, learning the different players personalities. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I think he can handle it. I don't know that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I would like it if I were him either, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I think he can handle it. And then they're really interesting.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: You ask how many you know? How you handle it
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: with Nick? I wonder what their plan is and I
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: can only wonder. I'm not even sure they haven't completely
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: thought through. If you've decided that Minsho's your guy in right,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: so what are you trying to get done with Nick
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Foles right now? So that in Minsho's your starter and
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Foles is playing in Chicago or Washington, who knows where?
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: That's an option? Right? If you identify this kid is
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: your quarterback, well there's no reason to wait, and there's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: no reason to keep Nick waiting. Either figure out a
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: solution for everybody, or if they've said, look, we think
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Minshi is going to be the guy eventually, but this
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: is still NIXT team, and we think he's going to
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: be the guy here in twenty and maybe even twenty one,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and we'll bring Minshew along. I don't know. I don't
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: know what their thought process. You probably use the rest
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of this season and kind of answer that question on
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: what Nick does the based on what Nick does. If
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he doesn't, if he comes out there and he's the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: person that you thought he was, you stick with it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You stick with it, and you just let minsheu sit
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: there and grow and become, you know, more seasoned veteran.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't come out here and he doesn't do
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: what you thought he can do, you have to move on.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You have to move on. And because you've got garden, minshew,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, it's very comfortable move you bet well.
• 18:06
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• 18:08
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  Speaker 1: we go a round the locker room yesterday. A lot
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to talk about Texans, a little bit of quarterback decision
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: maturing team. But let's talk to Chris Connelly first. I mean,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he was asking you know, you go back to Week
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: two against the Texans, how much do you remember that game?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And he said, really not at all. It doesn't matter
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: at all. Um, I think that the Texans have grown
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: as a football team, offense, defensive, special teams there. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: think they're far better than they were a week two. Um,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I think there were a better team as well. You know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you can't really go into games banking on success that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you had in the past because everyone adjusts and gets better.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You know. Right now this week, we're just focusing on ourselves,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: making sure that we're in a position to finish, uh
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and to you know, get better off of our game
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: last week. And it was interesting what Chris said there,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: because I, for one, was asking the question, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you were so close in Houston. Isn't that promising that
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know you guys were right there? So no, that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Every guy asked that we don't care about
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, we're gonna use it film wise, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it's out the picture. Yeah, I mean, you lose, but
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I wanted you lose by a hundred. It's still a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: loss that you just put that out of your mind.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And UH, with this week coming up, they lost some
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: players we lost some players, so it's gonna be a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: different type of football. But all you have to do is, uh,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: if you if you I feel like Dr Houstons, if
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you can take the quarterback, you are winning game. Because
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: when you can take the quarterback, you also can tain
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Hopkins and that's a two for one. And they have
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a pass rush I mean, which eats last week and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: thirteen quarterback kits. I mean you can appreciate how many
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: hits that it. I don't know how many times in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: your career you were part of an eight sack hit,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing over ten years, maybe three or four. Yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was very infrequent, Yes, it
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: was very limited. And uh. The thing about that is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like Sam and and the shine of two different people.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on now, like you're telling me to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: chase you know, Brett Farbe, and then you tell me
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to chase Michael Vig. It's a difference completely. And this
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: he has a speed element and he's going to run
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: away from some people. So they're still gonna get some hits.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna get that many. But
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they have the horses to be able to contain him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: In other words, to get that outside rush going, which
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: obviously then puts the pressure on the guys on the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: inside to stay home because if the sean escapes, oh,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, if he escapes, you're talking about yards with
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: his feet, or he can throw the ball. I mean
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: some quarterbacks can escape and then prolonged to play. But
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: he can actually run real fast, and that hurts. That
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: hurts a lot, especially when it's third and long and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you get defense, it's tired. When he scored that only
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: touchdown of that game for them on a fourth then
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: goal from the two, and he had just Darius working.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, Marcelle, you were standing right there.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I thought marcell was just going to plant him, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: he just kind of stepped back just like Minshew does
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and got right inside of him. That speaking to Marcelle alright.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fernette, we spoke to him in the locker room yesterday.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: He was short, sweet to the point, said this team
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: is much more mature now, and also going back to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the little things and how bad do we want to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: win and knowing that this is a must win, a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: must win game for us. It wasn't a lot there
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: for him, but he he was promising that this is
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a completely different team. It's a totally different look. It's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be different. Well, I think he's got perspective on
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: it because he's a completely different player he was. Last
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: year was such a disaster in so many ways for Leonard,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for Nette, and this year looks to be He's on
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: track right now to set the franchise record for rushing
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: yards in a single season. Um is just absolutely a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: completely different person in the locker room, on the sidelines, Um.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And last week I think it is proof of that,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: because he had stomach virus and he was he didn't
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: tell anybody till after the game. He rips off the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: sixty six yard run beautiful, and then after that the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Jets kind of kept him in check. We find out
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: later he's sick, but you never could tell him the field.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: It was a guy that was out there giving it
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: all for his teammates, which he didn't do last year. Um.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have loved to see them
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: feeding the ball a little bit more, to be honest,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: because Um, he started off so hot, and when when
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're running game it's hot like that, you just you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: pound it and they couldn't stop it. I mean don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, then you made some great players
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But man, if we can get going
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like that and just pound the football, I'm old school.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Just run the ball until they stop you. And if
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he's healthy and he's ready to go, run the ball.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It's funny. Everyone thinks about J. J. Watt's pass rusher,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: but what he really is is a disruptor and he creates.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So he had six tackles behind the line of scrimmage
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: in the game against the Colts. Six um. He destroys
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: your running game before you even really get started. His
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: absence in the running game should provide a big left No,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I would think so. I mean J. J. Watt is
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: just super athletic. I mean he's two eight pounds and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: he can rush and stop the run. And I was
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like looking at their whole line. Their whole line is huge.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's built to stop the run. But when you take
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: one of those talents like that and you take it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: off the field, now you have to you have to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: move someone over, and everyone's uncomfortable because now he had
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a d tackle. Now he's got to play a little
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: bit of d end and he is. It's uncomfortable, right,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel my best when I'm out
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of position. So now do we exploit that? Yes, we
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: we we line up and we try to pound the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: ball and we'll see what happens. Well, I like for
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: not talking about much win because, as we said, this
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is as much winness it gains. I predicted it that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they will go five and four, so they have to.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: They have to win that you did and they got
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to prove you right. It only makes sense. I'm here
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: for the truth. Finally, Doug Browns one game at a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: time mentality seems to have spread to the locker room. Honestly,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know the schedule. I know we played the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Texans and about week and I don't know who we
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: have after that. And I kind of keep it that way.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I never looked too too far ahead because I can't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: play those games yet, nor can I prepare for those
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: games yet. So at first we laugh when he said that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: We're like, come on, like, DJ, how do you not
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: know who the after the body? And he's like no,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's honestly a good thing. I can't let my
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: mind get that far ahead. But at first were like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you don't know the schedule, but it turns out, probably
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: is a good thing. People are always surprised about how
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: focused players are on the here and the now and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: not oh we got Atlanta the week before christ. Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know the schedule, but you do
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: know some games. This is one of those games, you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: because you're in the heat of things, and we have
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to win this one. It's in London, you know what
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean. And uh, those other teams down the road
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that are important but not as important as this game.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And when you play the Coats, you know what I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know those games. But I understand what he's saying,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like there's no point in thinking down the road, because like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: we have a big game right here and now, right
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and let's win this one. What I think is interesting is,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: um just he's a young guy. I mean, what's he
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: played now. He missed a bunch of games last six
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: games last year, so eighteen games, and he's just over
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a full season. And to be able to block things
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: out like that and focus, I mean, you know how
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it is with those young guys. They're all for the place,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: not this one. Shark is really he's been a revelation
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: on the field. The six touchdowns and the six d
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: plus yards and and thirty nine catches, But in the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: locker room he's such a strong presence and you just
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily see that from second year receivers. That's focus,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's focused, and that's that's good because I mean, you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: need your wide receivers to be focused. It helps the quarterback.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback, and if you're the people
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: around you are are messing up and they're being silly,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna go to the quarterback. So I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: think they're helping him be meant to be successful by
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: focusing in and doing what they need to do so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that he can have confidence. I want to be confident
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when I throw the ball of you, and if you're
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: silly and you're lazy or you're not paying attention, it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't make me confident. All right, when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: shots eight? Last week you watched him? What year? I
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  Speaker 1: think that the D line got after it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, they did a great job on
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• 31:00
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  Speaker 1: the last two weeks four sacks, pick six, and that
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  Speaker 1: guy is always doing something that you did, which was
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  Speaker 1: you had that tomahawk up ready to get out. I
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  Speaker 1: getting these strips. It's amazing. It's amazing for the offense too.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: So let me just lets you do word association, all right, right.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Calais Campbell just big and dominant and moving the center
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and the guard whenever he wants to. He's a guy
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: who every time you look at him, you're still a
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: making how big is he? And you're a big guy,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But I'm not that big And he's moving so well
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: right because every time he gets in his stance like this,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be slow and he shoots off the ball. Beautiful,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: beautiful technique. He's not low too to be so on
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that one. It's Tavin Bryan, the second year defensive tackle
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: just picked up that guard and walked him back. Thoughts
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: on the second year player. I like it. I like it,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and and just just stand low and using everything that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: college strength. We lose that we in and you get
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a little smarter and you lose that college strength, and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that college strength is still of coursing through his blood,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: all right, Josh Allen, Oh, just around edge speed. I mean,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the kids a freak right now. And I love it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I love it. I mean like they're gonna have to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: start champing him, and they're gonna start double taming him,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and then that's gonna open up other people to gainst that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Look at that, just just running it down and that's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the coverage sec I was talking about he didn't see anything,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: so he tried to run away. That's just too much
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: speed to get away from. Allan is a rookie and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: he's a smart kid, but how much does he really
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: know about pass rushing in the NFL level? In other words,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: how much better will he get from year one to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: year two. I think he'll get a lot better because
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: right now he's using a lot of speed, and he's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: using a lot of athleticism. When you get a little old,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you get a little slower, you start to see different moves,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna start using inside movies, gonna start using
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a spin move because he's gonna have to counter because
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they're gonna catch up to a speed. But right now,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: young man rumble, young man rumble, and that's what he's doing.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Unique and go kwai um. I see someone that's just
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: out there having fun. He's having fun. I mean like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: when you have everybody around you making plays, you start
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: making plays. And that's what he's doing. He's down there
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just having the time of his life. And I love it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I love it all right. So this week you get
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a Texans team that is depleted. I'm sorry, I'm on
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the wrong side of the Ball has a powerful running
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: game with Carlos hide and potential explosive passing game. We
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: always talk about Russian cover having to work hand in hand.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Can you go sixty rush? Can you go seventy rush?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: In other words, you have to you have to help
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the back end handle DeAndre Hopkins. How do you do it?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: What's the best way to do it? Or do they
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: have to handle themselves with coverage? Well? I think they
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: have to handle themselves with coverage because you have a
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: quarter fact that can also move and like the D
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: line has to take care of that first, you know
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So do we play zone and double
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: tame him? Uh? I would try. I would try to,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Like you gotta take that Patriots m O. Like, we're
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: gonna try to confuse him, and we're gonna try to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: move everybody around on the back end, and we have
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: such a dominant rush that hopefully they can get home
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: before he can decipher what's going on back there. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and that's how you have to attack it. And if
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: they can't get it like that, then what do we do?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: We start blitzing? I don't know, I have no idea,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but what we have to do is keep him in
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a pocket and not allow him to hurt us with
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: his legs. So they get a Texan offensive line that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: has played better in recent weeks. Larrmy Tunso, the left
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: tackle they traded for with Miami, though left the game
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: last week with the shoulder. I'm not sure if Titus
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Howard is going to play or not. He practiced a
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: bit yesterday. He has an m c L. He's the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: right tackle. I mean, you have a beat up unit
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that isn't all that strong inside. They ought to be
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: able to get something done against this this week. I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: think so because we're we're really hot, and we're healthy
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and healthy. Yeah, you can't beat that, and that's how
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you make your runs. You gotta stay healthy. And once
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you see teams starting to have injuries, they fall apart.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they're falling apart right now, especially playing in London,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they're exhausted as far away. It's a home game
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: for us and we get after twenty nine sacks, third
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: most in the in the NFL, second in the ANFC.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Patriots have thirty one, Panthers have thirty, Jaguars have twenty nine.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: They're in good check. Yes, they're in good company. Yeah,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: they're in very good company, good defense, and that's how
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you get into the playoffs. Defense. I don't know. Maybe
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: by it's because offense, but you can get far into
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the playoffs with the defense. Maybe you've got to have it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Look at what Look at what the Patriots are doing
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: this year. I mean, look nothing against Tom Brady. He
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is he is fantastic, but the offense is not carrying
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that team. Yeah, I mean when when we play, it's like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: if you keep offense seventeen points or less, we should
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: win the game. And that's what they're doing. They're keeping
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: them down. Here we go, all right, when we come back,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: we wrap up the show with some top tweets. Here
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• 37:54
  Speaker 1: this Thursday morning, Halloween Morning, with some top tweets. Very topical.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: To start, we all saw Shawn Watson's crazy touchdown throw
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: where he got kicked in the eye. I is still
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: swollen because Houston media is tweeting out he was supposed
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to throw out the first pitch in Game seven of
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the World Series last night. Team said no, you can't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: do that under the lights. How that worked out for
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the Astros? Yeah, apparently he was their lucky charm and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they didn't work out so well for um. I think
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: they expect him to play on Sunday, but I would
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: think that if you if they had he had a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: set back whatever that means yesterday. Uh, and maybe the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: setback was just code for we really just wanted to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: go home and um, but I gotta think if your
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: eye is swollen and you're a quarterback and you can't
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: see the backside coming at you, that might play to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the advantage a little bit. Who knows. Hopefully it does.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And maybe he can't focus down feel like that that
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that I you can't see those wide open I received
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: was I'm hoping, But I think that he's healthy. He
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: just want the rest. He probably didn't want to go
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: out there and have to deal with shaking hands and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: kissing babies because he had a flat of London and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: he had a convenient excuse. That's a good excuse. He
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: got kicked in the eye every saw come on Sean, right,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: But obviously the asterrois weren't the same without It's not
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: like he said, like, yeah, I have a common cold.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I won't make it tonight. We all do. I've pulled
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that one many times. I now know your excuse. All
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: right here? Why Baker Mayfield, oh my my, if you
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: haven't seen it yesterday in his press conference, basically goes
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: after Cleveland media. Um, Tony Grossi, who is a reporter
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: who has covered the Browns since the seventies, and it's notorious.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: We're kind of antagonizing it a little bit at times,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know what he is. But anyway, Um, it was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: an offensive drive the Browns didn't go for. They're playing
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: conservative football. The question was why weren't you more aggressive
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: on that drive? Baker Mayfield says, you haven't played before,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you don't know, and walks away, Yeah, Baker, loss is cool,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did, and and and if you're on the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: media side of the ball. That's perfect because it's it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: great for sound bites. Oh yeah, the baker's young, he's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: frustrated and uh, you know he he gave in to it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: He bit the cheese on this one. And you should.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: If you're frustrated and you're not having the season you
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: want to have, this is what you get old, you know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: just cliche sound bites like you know, this is you
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: know what we were trying to do. It just didn't
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: work out. We're gonna we're gonna fix some problems and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: get it right next game and walk away from it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: You can't, you can't show that emotion. Well, then he
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: came back with social media and trying to explain himself,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: which just made him look for me at some point,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: nothing is this more thing to say? Just say nothing?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Sess up. Yeah, And the question was asked, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: were you happy with the drive, which obviously isn't a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: very good question, but as reporters you're kind of trained. Hey,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: if you get a great answer from it, no question stupid. Well,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and so I helped the rookie class. Every year I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: teach a little media one oh one how to deal
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: with it, and the thing that I always tell them is,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: don't worry about the question. The answer is yours, right,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: you control the answer, And he let his emotions control
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the answer. The answer is we didn't score and we
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: lost the game. How could I possibly be happy with that?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That's the That's what he'd like to say, now, right, UM,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I get the emotional thing. I mean, I've been guilty
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of that, right, we all have. Um. But he somebody
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: needs to coach him a little bit. Don't just come
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: back with well I am who I am? Okay, Well,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Tony Grocer's Tony Grocy is he attacks you go after it?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: How do we change this dynamic? Because he's gonna be
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: there every week, And if you show up on Twitter
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and YouTube with this video every week, you're really going
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: to lose in the end because no one sees Tony.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: They barely hear him, no one knows him in public.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: He isn't losing money on this deal, so you better
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: figure it out. They just see we see his answer. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And now now you don't
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: hit a question. Now Tony knows how to hit his button.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Because if the media is frustrated with the team, they're
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: gonna go in there and they're gonna try to, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: get on the people's skin. And this is great and
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: now I know what to say, when to say it,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to get these sound bites and it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: going to be perfect for us. If you guys remember,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it was a few weeks back and DeShawn Watson was
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: basically asked the same type of question um and he
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: very easily could have gone the route of you don't
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: play the game, you don't know. Instead, he went into
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: this deep analysis of what the coverage was in the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: explanation of why he threw it here. And it was
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: incredible because we all learned something from listening to that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: sound Two totally different takes. Yeah, I mean I've been
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: told obviously I've never played the game before, but you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: never really want to use that you've never played before. No, No,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I mean some people on the field don't know what's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: going on, so don't don't you know, don't be confused.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say here like I play on the defense.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I can't say here and say I know the coverage
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and I know why the safety drop. You don't know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: So I mean like saying that it's just a cop
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: out and it's just Mayfield is just expressing his frustration.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It's just it's yeah, it's just a bunch, all right.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: And finally we wrap it up on a much lighter note.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Lennon for NET braces off. Look now, if you look
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, Jamal Adams, who is his college teammate for NET,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I asked yesterday he's had braces three times since his
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: freshman year, did not wear his retainers to Jamal Adams comments, dude,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: please get a permanent retainer because three since a braces
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: since freshman year of college. So, Leonard, we hope this
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: is for the long run. Now, I mean it's the beautiful.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I mean it looks it looks great. And you got
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a comment here though we did not see anything even
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: remotely like that from him last year. He was sullen
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and unhappy. You know, the hamstring, the incident in Buffalo,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you know, any anything on the road automobile wise, there
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: was the deal in Nashville to see him from where
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: he is. And you had lots of teammates in college
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and in the professional ranks. Not all of them could
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: make such a dramatic change. Not all of them could
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: turn around and go from boy, I'm losing here too.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I'm winning here. Yeah. I mean it isn't easy. It
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: isn't easy, And it's just like, what's important to you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: is this job? Is you know, winning football games and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and being the best player that you can be for
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: your team. Is that important? Or or or you know,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: doing stupid things off the field. And I think that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: this guy is choosing what's important because he likes to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: be in Jacksonville. He likes the teaming, likes everything that's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: going on, and you're going to try to preserve that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: as far as long as you can. How do you
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: do that? Sit down, relax and play football. That's it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That's greatness is very boring. It's very boring. It's routine.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: It's just as it is. It'd be great you have
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to be yeah, So you just have to sit there
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: in your routine and do what you have to do
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to be successful. It's low hanging fruit. But I'll take
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a stab at Jalon Ramsey here, Gramps. He could have
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: done the same thing. I mean he could have. He
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: could have looked at the situation as Leonard did and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: figured a way to create a better outcome for himself.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: But instead he just had the tantrum and that's all
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: over and people are eventually and I will too, eventually
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: put it behind it. But for that had gone and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gone a hundred eighty degrees and it's just now that
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: people are saying, wow, he is a lot better than
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he was last year. And not just us, but people
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: in the stands and fans that I talked to, you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: standing in line of public. So they want to talk
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: about Leonard for Net in a really positive light. Well,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it took him almost an entire calendar year ago from
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: where he was to where he is, but man, where
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: he is was worth where he was exactly. I mean,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna sit Aaron watch these two players, if
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Ramsey doesn't change, it's always gonna be that turning point
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: when he left Jacksonville and he just left in such
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: a bad way. His career just went south. And then
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you look at Leonard from NET after he changed everything
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: he was doing and he had success that year that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that Jalen left. I mean, we're gonna watch these careers
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and just see what they map out and and then
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it would be something that you will coach or teach
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: younger players, like, look, if you do things the right
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: way you're gonna have success if you, you know, depending
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: on yourself and you're you're a selfish player. This is
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. And I would just wait and see.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: We give a fact six years and we'll wait and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: see how Korea's turned out. Much a beautiful part about it. Yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that's all. It's all telegraphed. It's all telegrased, alright, alright,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and that is our show, Thursday Morning Drivetime. Stay tuned
• 46:10
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• 46:13
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• 46:16
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