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- Lucas: You've probably heard the old rule — withdraw 4 percent of your portfolio each year, adjusted for inflation, and you'll never run out of money. But what happens when the market drops twenty percent in a single year, like it did in 2022? Luna: If you're still taking that 4 percent, you're selling shares at exactly the wrong time. Lucas: Right. You're locking in losses. And that's the core problem with a fixed withdrawal strategy — it ignores market conditions. So today I want to talk about an alternative: the variable withdrawal strategy. Instead of taking a fixed dollar amount every year, you adjust your spending based on how your portfolio performed. Luna: And if today's conversation helps you think about your own plan differently, honestly, that's worth a coffee. You can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Exactly. Listener support keeps this show ad-free, so if you find value here, that link means a lot. Back to the strategy — let me give you a concrete example. Lucas: Say you retired at the start of 2022 with a million-dollar portfolio. Under the 4 percent rule, you'd plan to withdraw $40,000 that year. But by March, the S&P 500 had already dropped 12 percent. By June, it was down 20 percent. Luna: So your $40,000 withdrawal would represent a bigger chunk of your shrinking portfolio. Lucas: Yes. If you stick to that $40,000, you're effectively selling shares at a 20 percent discount to their value at the start of the year. That's painful. A variable strategy would say: instead of $40,000, maybe you take $30,000 — a 25 percent cut. You tighten your belt on discretionary stuff — travel, dining out, maybe delay a new car purchase. Luna: But is that realistic? Can most retirees just slash their spending by 25 percent overnight? Lucas: It depends on how much of your spending is discretionary. The idea is to build that flexibility in from the start. If your essential expenses — housing, food, healthcare — are covered by Social Security or a pension, then the portfolio withdrawals are for the fun stuff. And that's easier to cut. Luna: So the variable approach works best if you have a floor of guaranteed income. Lucas: Exactly. And there are formal methods to guide these adjustments. One popular one is the Guyton-Klinger guardrails. It says if your withdrawal rate rises above a certain threshold — say, 6 percent of your current portfolio — you cut spending by 10 percent. If it drops below 4 percent, you give yourself a raise. Luna: So it's like a rule-based system that keeps you from overreacting or underreacting. Lucas: Right. Another is Vanguard's dynamic spending rule, which adjusts your withdrawal by a percentage of the portfolio's gain or loss. For example, if your portfolio drops 20 percent, you reduce your withdrawal by 20 percent of that — so a 5 percent cut. It's more gradual. Luna: Which one tends to produce a higher success rate in simulations? Lucas: Both beat the fixed 4 percent rule over most historical periods because they reduce sequence risk. The 4 percent rule fails when you hit a bad market early in retirement. Variable strategies automatically tighten spending in those early bad years, which lets your portfolio recover faster. Luna: So the trade-off is you might have to spend less than you'd like in some years. But you reduce the chance of running out of money completely. Lucas: Exactly. And here's the thing — most retirees don't spend the same amount every year anyway. A 2023 study from the Employee Benefit Research Institute found that retiree spending declines by about 1 percent per year in real terms after age 65. People naturally slow down. Luna: That's a great point. So a variable strategy actually aligns with real behavior. Lucas: Right. The key is to have a plan for how you'll adjust before the market drops. If you wait until you're panicking, you'll make emotional decisions. So set your guardrails now, build a cash buffer of one to two years of expenses, and you'll never have to sell into a down market. Luna: What about the first year of retirement? If the market is up, do you take more? Lucas: With most variable strategies, you cap the upside to avoid overspending. The Vanguard rule, for instance, caps the increase at 5 percent above inflation. You don't want to get used to a high spending level that you can't sustain when the market turns. Luna: So it's a balancing act — spending enough to enjoy retirement, but not so much that you jeopardize the future. Lucas: Yes. And I think the best approach is a hybrid. Use a fixed withdrawal for your essential expenses — that's your floor. Then take a variable percentage for discretionary spending. That way, you never have to worry about cutting into your core lifestyle. Luna: That feels more realistic than a one-size-fits-all rule. Lucas: Absolutely. The 4 percent rule was designed as a planning tool, not a prescription. It's great for estimating how much you need to save, but once you're retired, you need a system that responds to reality. Luna: So if someone is approaching retirement today, what's the first step to implement a variable strategy? Lucas: First, model your essential versus discretionary spending. Figure out your floor. Then decide on a rule — Guyton-Klinger guardrails or Vanguard's dynamic spending are both well-researched. Then stress-test it with historical data. Tools like Portfolio Visualizer or cFIREsim let you run simulations. Luna: And be honest about your ability to cut back. If you're not willing to reduce spending even when the market is down, then you need a more conservative approach. Lucas: Exactly. The strategy only works if you follow it. But the upside is huge: higher sustainable spending in good years, lower risk of ruin, and the peace of mind that comes from knowing you have a plan for any market. Luna: And you can always adjust as you go. It's not set in stone. Lucas: Right. That's the beauty of it. You're not locked into a fixed path. You're adapting to what the market gives you.