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Andrew Wingard on Leadership, Controlling Your Mindset | O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Oh soon.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into this week's Ozone podcast. And I always say
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited about every guest, but I'm always excited to
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  Speaker 2: talk to this week's guest, Jaguar safety Andrew Winguard.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for this, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like in a lot of ways you've
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  Speaker 2: really come to symbolize this franchise and define this franchise.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, you know, do you like that and
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  Speaker 2: do you feel like that's true in any way?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'll take what I can get from from
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  Speaker 1: where you know, from where you know the team has
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  Speaker 1: been right, And if the team or the fans look
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  Speaker 1: to me for energy and for enthusiasm, then I can
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  Speaker 1: absolutely give you that. And I do love that because
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  Speaker 1: I believe in positivity. I believe in all that stuff
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  Speaker 1: and I try to embody that. And obviously people have
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  Speaker 1: started to see that and it feels good. It does
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: When you're out and about how often you hear it
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  Speaker 2: was always the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: All the time, especially because I can't hide and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. So but I remember talking with with our
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  Speaker 1: doctor Franco and he was talking about last year how
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  Speaker 1: that a word or a sentence or a phrase became
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  Speaker 1: almost tangible to where when that was said, energy came
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  Speaker 1: from it. And to me, that was the coolest thing.
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  Speaker 1: How something that just came came to me and in
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  Speaker 1: the you know, heat of the moment, you say something,
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  Speaker 1: and yet that becomes kind of a driving force into
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  Speaker 1: a playoff, run, a turnaround, if you will. So that's
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  Speaker 1: probably the coolest thing to me. But yeah, I get
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  Speaker 1: it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're at target and publics and somebody comes
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  Speaker 2: up to you and says that, I gotta think that
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  Speaker 2: that's a great feeling for like you remember it. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean sometimes I get anybody in public eye doesn't
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  Speaker 2: love being approached, but I gotta think that's a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, never ends. And I'm definitely you know, I'm the
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  Speaker 1: simple guy who just wants to be another human you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not looking for any sort of recognition. I actually,
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  Speaker 1: and don't take this the wrong way. I prefer just
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  Speaker 1: to go out and not be recognized and just being
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  Speaker 1: you know, another you know, another human being, because that's
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  Speaker 1: what we all are at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: But it is cool, especially you know, when I first
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  Speaker 1: showed up here my first couple of years, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to be seen in public first
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  Speaker 1: picking the draft two years in a row, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But it is cool, and it's cool that the fans
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  Speaker 1: now have a team to root for that's produce, that
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  Speaker 1: can produce and can you know, not just be terrible? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And this is a little bit of a different season
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  Speaker 2: than last year, where there was just momentum going at
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  Speaker 2: the end of last year, do you guys sinse that
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  Speaker 2: it's a different season. And as you go into this
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  Speaker 2: game against Tennessee, which is a must win, somehow through.
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  Speaker 1: A wild route, you're.
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  Speaker 2: In the same place as last year with the chance
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  Speaker 2: to go after it. Is that what you're embracing this
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  Speaker 2: week as a team.
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  Speaker 1: You have to right again. When we stepped in in
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  Speaker 1: training camp, we said win the AFC South and we've
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  Speaker 1: put our here. We have the opportunity. And if if
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  Speaker 1: your immediate gut reaction is to start to think, oh
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  Speaker 1: well it could, you've lost already.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If that's your gut reaction to go into the what
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  Speaker 1: I call the sewer cycle of negative thinking, then you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get negative results, So flip that positive mindset. Here
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  Speaker 1: we are and all we can ask for is an opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to control our own destiny, and we do
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  Speaker 1: when that's it. So I'm sorry, No, you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: And first of all, is a sewer cycle yours?
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  Speaker 1: It's not, okay, I kind of I guess I did
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  Speaker 1: kind of steal it's it's from this book. It's called
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  Speaker 1: The Confident Mind by doctor Nate Zencer. He's like the
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  Speaker 1: head of sports psychology at Army West Point.
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  Speaker 2: Now you like that stuff, right, sort of thinking it
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  Speaker 2: is like you're really has it helped you at all?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's a way of life for you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's helped you get here?
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  Speaker 1: Right? The mental game is everything for me, okay, And
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  Speaker 1: that has taken me here. It's taken me farther than
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  Speaker 1: guys I was with in high school. It took me
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  Speaker 1: farther than guys in college. It's taken me farther than
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  Speaker 1: guys I came in with. And that's where it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I've learned along the way that learning is my
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  Speaker 1: if I was to have a superpower, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: it's my ability to learn, capacity to digest information and
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  Speaker 1: learn from it. So I think that's where I have
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  Speaker 1: improved the most in my game, is just being able
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  Speaker 1: to learn and get better and better and better and
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  Speaker 1: better and just maximize my opportunities. But as a captain
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  Speaker 1: of this team, I've really felt the calling of how
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  Speaker 1: do I fire guys up and how do I get
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  Speaker 1: guys in the right frame of mind? And it goes
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  Speaker 1: along with that stuff, with stuff about the mental edge,
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  Speaker 1: with principles such as the sewer cycle, and you've seen
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  Speaker 1: I've monitored it all year and there's been times when
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  Speaker 1: we've been in the sewer circle. There's been times when
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  Speaker 1: we've been in the opposite is the success cycle where
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing, like I just said, this opportunity, not this
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  Speaker 1: you know, oh, let's look back on the negative where
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  Speaker 1: we could have won the division. No, the success cycle
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  Speaker 1: would say we here, we have this opportunity, what a
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  Speaker 1: great opportunity, This is awesome, high pressure, let's go ball out.
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  Speaker 1: What are you know? So that's I've done that all
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  Speaker 1: year with the guys, and it's been different principles here
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  Speaker 1: and there, but in this point in time, it's that
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  Speaker 1: of this is a great opportunity. The same goals. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go ball out. Who doesn't want to be in this
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  Speaker 1: spot in a high pressure situation. Let's thrive on it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of been the.
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  Speaker 2: Message from undrafted guy as a rookie to team captain.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean to you?
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  Speaker 1: That that really does mean a lot. That's cool, that
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  Speaker 1: got when the guys see it. Yeah, and it's not fake.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like you're just some raw ra guy that
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  Speaker 1: talks and no, it's it's actions. And that's the coolest
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  Speaker 1: part for me, you know, being able to sit in
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  Speaker 1: those captains meetings on Wednesdays. You know, it's and it's
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  Speaker 1: been a challenge too for me because before you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to. You know, you just plut you just go play.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the success and failure of the team. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's not so much you know kind of correlated back
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  Speaker 1: to you as a leader of the team. But so
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  Speaker 1: that's been you know, if I was to look back
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  Speaker 1: on the seat, not that it's over, but if I
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  Speaker 1: was to look back, this has been a great year
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  Speaker 1: for me in terms of growth and stuff. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: how to talk, how to talk to the guys, how
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  Speaker 1: you come off, you know, the things you say even
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  Speaker 1: talking to coach Peterson. You know, we've had great conversations
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  Speaker 1: in those captains meetings. So it's been super cool. Definitely
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  Speaker 1: the highlight of my career so far, just being you know,
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  Speaker 1: named the captain, wearing the sea on the jersey. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's really freaking cool. I can't lie. Has that pushed you?
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  Speaker 2: I personally think you're missing your calling if you don't
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  Speaker 2: coach at some point? Has that made you think about
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  Speaker 2: that more?
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  Speaker 1: I think about it all the time, Okay, And it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think about like coaching in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I think about like coaching high school kids. To me,
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  Speaker 1: that would be that would be the coolest and most
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  Speaker 1: fun thing, you know. I think that definitely not college
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  Speaker 1: those hours, I wouldn't be able to play golf. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to you know, I wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 1: to go play poker at the casino. But now it's
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  Speaker 1: it's just kind of what I do.
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  Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing you've learned about leadership? I guess
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  Speaker 2: that's where I'm looking for leadership, but that this year
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  Speaker 2: anything in particular, it's more that.
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  Speaker 1: Like leadership isn't about leadership is really the only thing
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  Speaker 1: leadership is about is influence, Like just because you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the things you do don't matter unless you can
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  Speaker 1: influence people and move them in a direction and cast
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  Speaker 1: a vision to them, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 1: that's really what I've learned about this year is when
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  Speaker 1: you go up and you talk, are you painting a
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  Speaker 1: clear picture? When you go up and you talk, are
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  Speaker 1: you bruin something within the guys? So that's been the
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  Speaker 1: most kind of fun thing for me is over the
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  Speaker 1: course of this year. You know, I remember after the
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  Speaker 1: Houston game, we were one and two and there was
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  Speaker 1: just you know, we were in the sewer cycle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were in the sewer cycle. A lot of negative
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  Speaker 1: not just the energy was dead. So I called up
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  Speaker 1: a team after the team meeting the night before we
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  Speaker 1: played Atlanta, I could just called all the guys up
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  Speaker 1: and I said, hey, open for him, like wide open,
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  Speaker 1: let's chat, let's you know, let's start bouncing ideas off
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  Speaker 1: each other, let's get on the same page. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think we won like five or six games straight
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  Speaker 1: after that. So that was the cool thing to me
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  Speaker 1: is I just offered a platform. I got the guys talking,
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  Speaker 1: we all got on the same page. We all felt better,
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  Speaker 1: we all felt some energy. And it's stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: the things you do as a leader in those scenarios,
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  Speaker 1: there's your influence, and if that influence works, you're doing
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  Speaker 1: something right as a leader.
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  Speaker 2: Could you've ever imagined this version of Andrew winning Guard
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  Speaker 2: Year five when you were starting out?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was all okay. Maybe, I mean, I never
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  Speaker 1: thought I'd be a captain, but I knew I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be here for sure. I knew when I knew,
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  Speaker 1: I knew. I've I've always known how good I can be.
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  Speaker 1: I've always just I've known that there's no way another
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  Speaker 1: There's no way another man can do that and I can't.
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  Speaker 1: There's no reason I can't be the best in the world.
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  Speaker 1: And I you know, I still believe that obviously. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I re signed here and I'm still not a starter,
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  Speaker 1: but I still see myself as a starter. I still
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  Speaker 1: prepare like a starter. My film won't lie. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I've been balling and I've just continued to
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  Speaker 1: keep getting, you know, better and better. And it's just
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  Speaker 1: the cool part is that belief in yourself is really
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  Speaker 1: the only thing that matters. What you know you're gonna fail,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna mess up. But the guys that keep going,
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  Speaker 1: the guys that keep getting better, you know, will always
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  Speaker 1: come out in the end. And that's kind of how
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  Speaker 1: it's been for me. And you know, you gotta, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta thank God, you know. With out him, I'm absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And that's really been my driving force. But he kind
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  Speaker 1: of casts that vision for me when I was young.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy because when I was young, I
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  Speaker 1: would pray every night. I would you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: like a freshman in high school. I would pray that
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  Speaker 1: I would make varsity as a sophomore, and then I
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  Speaker 1: would go on to get a D one scholarship, and
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  Speaker 1: then I'd go on to the to play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And I just prayed for it. And it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: here it is now, and you know, I now just
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm the I now feel like I owe
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  Speaker 1: this responsibility back to that little kid, right you know,
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  Speaker 1: I that when you you know, when you lay your
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  Speaker 1: head on that pillow at night, that self esteem. I
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  Speaker 1: really kind of see myself still as a little kid,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I it's really self compassion. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Guys beat themselves up. Guys and I've just tried not
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  Speaker 1: to do that. I've tried to always been positive, and
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  Speaker 1: I've always tried to you know, kind of see myself
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  Speaker 1: as too different, see myself as a man, and see
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  Speaker 1: myself as the as that little kid that that belief,
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  Speaker 1: that joy, and to kind of still you know, kindle
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  Speaker 1: that spirit of a kid and in a way give
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  Speaker 1: back to myself. So I now you know the discipline
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  Speaker 1: Now it's hard, you know, now, it's now it's when
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  Speaker 1: you really got to be a man. That that discipline,
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  Speaker 1: that training, that effort, that attention to detail so that
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  Speaker 1: when you do go out on Sunday and play, you
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  Speaker 1: can really let that kid be free.
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  Speaker 2: Were you better now than when you're a rookie?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: And why is it? Is it just experience or how
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  Speaker 2: does that grow?
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  Speaker 1: I would just say, man, you know it's a tough question. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you get, like you said, experience, You get so many
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  Speaker 1: reps against great players in practice that you just naturally
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  Speaker 1: have to adapt. But now I think I just take
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  Speaker 1: extreme ownership of my job. Before you know, you get
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  Speaker 1: in you're kind of just unconscious. You're kind of just
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  Speaker 1: learning the way. You know, You're not really you're just
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  Speaker 1: playing right right. And now it's like I remember in
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  Speaker 1: twenty one under urban Meyer said something he's he brought
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  Speaker 1: up the pain of discipline versus the pain of regret,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like that that hit me like so hard.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to regret a single
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  Speaker 1: thing while I have this opportunity. So that really led
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  Speaker 1: me down this path of discipline of like kind of
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  Speaker 1: just relearning everything I did, like because I was unconscious
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  Speaker 1: of it. I didn't you know, getting a journal and
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  Speaker 1: like write down how I was playing ball, how I
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  Speaker 1: was seeing, how I was studying, how I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. So I really just took extreme
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  Speaker 1: ownership over myself and you know, started journaling, started doing
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, started learning, started to like have goals,
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  Speaker 1: have purpose, you know, game in, game out. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's just where I've really elevated myself is looking
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  Speaker 1: at myself through a clear lens without you know, judt,
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  Speaker 1: you know, without the negative voice in your head, but
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  Speaker 1: just looking at yourself, identifying strengths and weaknesses, getting better
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  Speaker 1: at your weaknesses while you know, elevating still your strengths
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So just those you know, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's small details, but that is the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: leads to big games, you know what I mean. So,
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  Speaker 1: but from a football aspect, I just think I I
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  Speaker 1: can play all you know, I can play both spots
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  Speaker 1: at free free safety, strong safety. I've really gotten better
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  Speaker 1: planning man coverage. You know, we do one on ones
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  Speaker 1: all the time. I felt like I've taken fifty thousand
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  Speaker 1: one on one reps and just being able to operate, communicate,
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  Speaker 1: and that's really what it is. So I went off
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  Speaker 1: kind of on a tangent there, but great. That's how
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  Speaker 1: you improve in this league. And that's been another thing
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  Speaker 1: for me as a captain, is teaching these young guys
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  Speaker 1: getting right. I remember when I came in the league,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson. Jared Wilson was a guy who I remember they,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you know, all the guys said find a vet who
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: has had success, find a vet who has kind of
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  Speaker 1: been on the similar path as you, and copy them.
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  Speaker 2: And I can drafted guy Goby Jared Wilson to it,
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  Speaker 2: and best teammate, best guy I've ever met my entire life.
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  Speaker 1: I just copied him. And now that I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: in that same spot as he was, now it's about
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  Speaker 1: being that vet that young guys look to, that young
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  Speaker 1: guys look to for advice. And it's just been maybe
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  Speaker 1: if one thing I say to to the to young
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby, if I if I chew Tank out about
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  Speaker 1: jumping off sides on a fourth and four, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: you know, no one wants to be the guy that
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: wants to get up in a guy's grill and right,
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  Speaker 1: But now every time we're in practice, Tank looks at
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  Speaker 1: me when we're on punt return he heye ear mufs
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  Speaker 1: ear mus fourth and four, right, Just little little things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and it's a that's kind of where I've
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  Speaker 1: you know, found the calling to as a captain is
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  Speaker 1: teaching those young guys, you know, just those little minute
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  Speaker 1: details about how to be a pro, how to elevate
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  Speaker 1: themselves because this game offers so much outside of here.
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  Speaker 1: What this game gives us financially among other things, that's
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  Speaker 1: not the only thing, obviously, but what it gives you financially,
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  Speaker 1: it allows you to just create this life you want
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  Speaker 1: outside of football and after football. So why not give
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  Speaker 1: it your all? Why not own your role so that
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  Speaker 1: you can continue to ball out, make money, play as
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  Speaker 1: long as possible. You know, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Might say high school coach, you'll be coaching special teams
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  Speaker 2: in this league. So that's just that's just my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk in fifteen, we're talking five years. The final
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  Speaker 2: thing along these lines, A chance to win back to
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  Speaker 2: back division titles on on Sunday, first time in twenty
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: five years has been done. A chance to beat the
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  Speaker 2: Titans for the fourth time in a row had been
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  Speaker 2: done since the nineties. Do you think about anything like
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  Speaker 2: that in terms of just I guess this team sort
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  Speaker 2: of making a mark and being a team that people
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  Speaker 2: look back on.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, because I've been thinking about
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  Speaker 1: that lately too. It's like, let's go boys. That's what
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  Speaker 1: it's been. Let's go boys. You don't under like I
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  Speaker 1: hope they all understand, like the back to back division titles,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe this, when this team gets into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: I believe I think that's when we take off. I
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  Speaker 1: really do. But you become the first you know, you
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  Speaker 1: win a super Bowl in Jacksonville? Are you kidding me?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? How freaking sweet? Would that be?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: First super Bowl in franchise history? Like you're like you're
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a legend forever, Like, are you kidding me? So? And
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I've been in seasons where you're packing your bags up
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: right now making sure that on Monday you can get
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the hell out of here, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Now it's like, dude, like now you really don't want
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to have.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Reason an opportunity here.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Big opportunity. So it's it's awesome and our fans they
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: deserve it. They've been great. And to have a team
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to like we said, to have a contender year in
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: year out to cheer for, that's awesome in itself. But now,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you know, back to back really shaking up this division
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: because Coach talked about it too the other day. It's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: like Tennessee and Indye have owned this division and you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Houston had that little run with Deshaun Watson and stuff,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but this could, you know, this could really set the standard.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And I think this has really been a growth here.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You know, for everyone in this organization. We've never been
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in this situation right for the most part, where you
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you know, weekend you got to be a contender, you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So right, playing first place schedule right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Right, And it's been a great growth here. And so many,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: so many lessons learned and stuff like that. And now
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: here we sit, you know what I mean. Here we sit,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So it's it's about going to do it. But back
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to your question, you do think about that, and that's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the when you think about cool things and high aspiration
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: things like that, it really gets you going and really
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: gets you excited. Very cool.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: The last thing we do is the ozone five, So
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it's five quick fun questions. If you have time between reading,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: what was your last binge watch?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I'm not a huge Netflix guy, but I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: think I rewatched Breaking Bad about six months ago.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I could see that big times you would be across
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: all or not.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't get into that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: It's it's I would advise. I did the same thing.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Breaking Bad was great. Tried Saul the first time, couldn't
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: get into it, and once I got into it, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's better, but it's the same thing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But you have to sort of get through the first couple.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So anyway, gotcha where his advice? A song you heard
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: on the car on the way in this morning.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It's funny because today's the one day I didn't listen
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to music. Last night, I was listening to Hall and Oates. Okay,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: out of touch, Okay, okay, well that's right out of
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: my out of touch Okay, come out of time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I would join in with because I know the song
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that nobody wants to hear. That. So, best player you've
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: ever played against probably.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Probably Deshaun Watson when he was in Houston. We played them,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and we played them in London my rookie year, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that guy was on another level, making every throw, no
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: one could sack him, running around and everything.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It was one of his better game, best or most
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: memorable play that you've been involved.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: With, prop probably my It was. My first interception of
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: my career was against Indy. Yeah, in twenty twenty, first
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: game of the year, picked off Phil Rivers, only to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: lose fifteen or so games straight afterwards, but got the.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Dub, saved, saved it from sixteen, which is saying something.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool. That's right. First interception, Yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: first interception of my NFL career on a future Hall
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of Famer, got pretty cool.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Five year old Dewey's favorite movie Lord.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Of the Rings.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Really that eulogy okay, yep, that young you're in it? Okay,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: oh absolutely those gott Are staying cartoons, but you weren't
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Still best best movies of all time. Still watch them.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And you know I'm a nerd at heart. I really am.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a like dungeons and dragons, swords and shields and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a Lord of the Rings guy, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you get along with my wife. She's hardcore into it
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and loves it. I could talk to you all day.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining the ozone podcast. Good Luck Sunday
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Dude, Thanks sir, appreciate it.