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S3 28. William Ramsey – The Past, Present and the Future · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Welcome back to the show. I'm so happy that you guys are
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here with me. Again for another episode
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honored to have been on the William Ramsay's show, as he is
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on mine, he released the episode.
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We've recorded on Friday, the 9th on his show, and I am here
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on the 11th, releasing it for you guys and it's, it's an
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amazing episode. I know, I say that every time
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but it amongst William Ramsay has an attorney author and
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researcher. You know, you graduated from the
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University of California, Berkeley has a degree in
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history. He's also on the State Bar of
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California. Yes JD he's written a number of
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books and has a really successful podcast.
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Been a part of some of the stranger things when it comes to
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Murder Mysteries and dealing with the occult and man just
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diving into The smiley face Killers.
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A lot of stuff that goes under the radar from those people.
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He's on the front lines of many different ways.
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This is an awesome show. We both kind of chop it up and
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enjoy each other's company. To say the least how he delivers
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his information, the level research he's put in his
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academic, this is really great episode.
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I'm not going to waste any more time.
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Let's get into this episode. You guys are going to love it.
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Let's go. A pleasure to be able to speak
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with you man. Thank you so much for agreeing
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to talk. Thank you, thanks for the
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invite. Glad to be here.
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I really like your approach and I think you're covering a wide
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spectrum of topics and is in my opinion, is really important to
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tackle some of these popular topics because there's a lot
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there's a broad spectrum of people that are getting lost in
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bad information. Really, at the end of the day I
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just asked a lot of questions. Is on the learner.
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And to I'm to I'm enamored with your approach, man, and I feel
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like there's a lot I can learn from you.
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I wanted to, you know, just ask you some personal questions
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about like how you came to be where you are today, like a
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little bit of what your journey look like and advice for.
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You know, a younger guy who is trying to Wade through a million
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messages and million signals that are causing a lot of
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confusion and Chaos in the days that we live in.
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That's well said, I mean these are the days of guy was actually
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thinking that writing a paper called the age of chaos
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yesterday. Definitely in the age of chaos
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and confusion. My path was kind of like, I was
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not my, neither of my parents had college degrees, and I went
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the route of trying to kind of really, at a certain point.
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I knew, I didn't know very much, so I really tried to work on my
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academics was very fortunate to graduate from college law,
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school in DC. And I learned a lot there from
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the inside I'd really. Very much a provincial and very
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naive. And so how it really works very
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corrupt. A lot of inside dealing a lot of
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murder frankly. So it really changed, kind of my
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view. I got done with that passed.
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The bar 98, really lost understood that that time that
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the corporate media is completely owned and fake.
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So that was kind of a good thing to realize at an early earlier
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age, you know, before I was 30 so that led me to really breed
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on my own Annalise, on my own. And also look for other people
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who are doing that as well. So, I was really kind of reading
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stuff earlier, some guys are still around, but when I was in
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DC, I read this guy, Mike Rivero who was also kind of involved in
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something. I was he wasn't involved, gives
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an analyzer of the death of Ben's Foster, which I was
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literally involved with, but so I was following him.
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So I actually followed that guy for like almost a
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quarter-century. Now, I also used to read God by
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the name of Justin, raimondo. His son, unfortunately, passed
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away that he wrote for Ty war.com which is still around
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and he wrote great articles and I was a huge reader of him while
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I was there and then 9/11 happened and I kind of believe
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that I should I should have been much more critical looking back,
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but I was I was dumb and naive. So then eventually act 2003 2004
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I realized that story was bogus and my government is lying to
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me. What else they're lying about is
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actually kind of scary and so I really went down the kind of
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9/11 research and was always researching Nothing like I'd
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really just I still don't trust the corporate media.
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I'm kind of curious what's on TV, but I know it's like,
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vicious propaganda as vicious as anything in China or Russia
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meant to confuse. I mean, there's all kinds of
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psychological conditioning that they're putting in there to make
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you confused and actually give you kind of dread and despair.
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That's the subtext. Is not that you can get ahead,
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but they really put you in a passive kind of thing.
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So, I actually without really being conscious of it became a
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more active, purveyor of information.
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Like what do Find out next you can I trust or this book?
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So I was reading often and so then I've got just kind of
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started the numerology. I never thought I'd be a book
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writer my law career. I was bored, I hate it.
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I don't really like lawyers and I just didn't have any passion
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for it. So I just led me to kind of like
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after those are like gestational years of trying to figure stuff
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out and then I had enough information.
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Once I was researching to write my first book published that
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self-publish 2010 and it was And of a real learning experience.
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A lot of these Publishers are shysters.
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I actually trust somebody who would try to play three-card
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Monte with me more than some of these Publishers even Christian
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ones, like the Christian friends of just as bad, but we can go
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down that all history. When somebody says they're
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Christian to me, it's just like I just go I don't care.
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What is this? Can just be just as bad as
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another scoundrel. So anyway, 2010 first book, 2012
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second book, 2014 third book. Then in 2017, I made my
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documentary about Small effects killer.
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So I was really those are all things about being frustrated,
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with people, not really doing quality investigative.
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Now we're started working for red.
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I was actually doing interviews for at Opperman really in 2012,
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2013. And that kind of just morph
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naturally into me kind of getting guests for him and it's
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kind of fun because I actually got to reach out and send emails
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and talk to people that I admire like, hey you should have this
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guy on your show and I, you know, and then Ed and I kind of
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I split from it in 2020. T.
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Okay, they're all the riots and stuff like that.
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I still like it as person. He's a great person.
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I mean I really mean that like I wouldn't have worked with him
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for that long if I thought he was a jerk I just I just really
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don't like the partisanship to me.
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If I have somebody doesn't agree.
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Doesn't mean I'm against your party?
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Like people? Like if I disagree with them,
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like they, I'm immediately a trump love or something like
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that. That's far.
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That's not even close to the truth.
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I believe in the effective transfer of power, a lot of
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people don't and they don't in this generation.
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It's really sad like we're in deep trouble.
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So anyways, 2017 first documentary pandemic 2020, that
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I put out a lot of documentaries within those three year period.
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So I five documentaries on Vimeo on a variety of subjects.
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People don't want to talk about. Want to talk about my first,
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actual two documentaries. I forget this.
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I'm not trained in hertz or Digital Arts or anything like
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that. So I made two really
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embarrassing documentaries and 2021 was profit of the old, the
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other was a cold Hollywood. I kind of re-up the cold
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Hollywood have made a cold Hollywood, too.
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Then I may have those two documentaries on this mug, this
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killers and then the visual kind of aspects of my other books, o
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prophet of evil. I made a documentary and
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Children of the Beast. Those are all on Vimeo and then
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I also have a smaller book called, Aleister Crowley, a
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visual study know, just kind of like, looking at the pictures of
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pearly. So for people are kind of more
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visual or Learners. They can look at that, but I
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thought that was kind of an interesting exercise.
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I should really update that if I have time.
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So it's been an interesting journey.
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I think I really was. I mean, when I first was
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Starting kind of my inquiry into kind of looking into the occult,
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I did wasn't very popular. It was I was kind of like a
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leper or something like it's not it's not I've decent career and
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academic credentials but it's not really in a that point
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wasn't really a acceptable kind of line of inquiry.
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And I think that's changed a lot.
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Now, 2022 is a people, really we're swimming in the occult
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like to say that. You're not like, that's the most
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common religion. Oh, I don't know if it's
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Christianity. But I think it's important to
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look at that, and look at the ideas and ideas and ideology do
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need to have actions and outcomes.
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So somebody's gonna coat this. They're going to make different
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decisions and somebody's a Buddhist or Jewish or Muslim or
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Christian. So that's kind of like the Long,
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Long Haul journey and I think that that was it.
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I would not really be doing what I was doing.
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If I didn't have like Decades of frustration, but the mass media
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of the corporate media, like just screaming at the TV or why
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aren't you? Guys going into this and even
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though a lot of the journalists are kept a lot of the well-known
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journalist. And these big magazines New York
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Times Washington compost, these are like State functionary.
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Type things that people don't really realize they think they
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look at them as independent but a lot of those guys are going to
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cocktail parties or they've been compromised, sex compromise is
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that's I was actually very calm, much more common in d.c. at that
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time that I knew 95 to 98. So there were secret parties and
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strange kind of events. What was The first thing that
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happened when you were in DC, that kind of like flip that
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switch and open your eyes where you started going.
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Hold on. Something's wrong here, it's a
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good question. I got there 95 and I just
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thought like, hey, this is a city on a hill.
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Had all the learning that I got from the state schools and one
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high school. And I'd really was, I know, I'd
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known about JFK or things like that, but I didn't know how
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vicious the fights were there. I mean, they really do kill
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people. There's a lot of people who died
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there mysteriously. Vince Foster was just one of
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many people who got Murdered or just suspiciously died.
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But I think the first thing that I had just like, little things,
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like, my wife worked for a congressman.
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So, I was around a lot of those Office Buildings back in the
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day, okay? There was one office building.
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That there were, I mean, there was one guy from work again that
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you weren't supposed to send women into his office.
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And they actually, I was there. Helping my wife there.
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Hey, William. Go give this to him.
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I was like, okay, I just walked over there.
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This is for Bob and I left and but I didn't understand that the
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guy was like a Serial abuser, like an octopus women at like,
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you know, really kind of in the most being away, like, really
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bad guy and then he ended up getting busted.
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I forgot his name is out of organ, but like, he would like,
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try to french kiss him like that, like, that bad.
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So and so, there were less. So I was like, oh wow, so it's
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just some sketchy things here. There was another one.
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I was not a rich kid. I came from, you know, I didn't
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I came from a middle-class Background music, good way,
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maybe upper middle class but I certainly wasn't rich kid, but I
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work during law school. I was working at this one.
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Mexican restaurant that was on the hill.
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It was, I can't remember the name of us like Baja Cantina,
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you know, I was served, I would serve lunches and stuff like
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that. And one of the congressman from
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Florida came in and he ordered to like triple scotches for
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lunch and his nose was sweat like I could see the sweat
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coming out of his nose and I was like, wow this is really weird
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like I'm used to Seeing is people all cleaned up?
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Yeah, this guy looks like he could be sleeping on a park
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bench and he was a congressman from like the Orlando area.
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And so like people like all the servers are like that's
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Congressman Joe Blow, I forgot his name too.
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But so then we looked up his picture like they have all the
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pictures that Congressman all over the place.
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You can look it up on that Congressional register and there
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he is. This clink.
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I sure like then they must just clean his ass up and send him
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back to the city and dry him out, and then let him come.
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I'm back here and just get hammered all day.
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It was incredible. So you I mean you see all the
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news guys that you see on TV or around so you see that and you
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see them in more, you know, of just themselves environment.
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They're not in this kind of car. This is Bob Wilson for ABC.
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So you just kind of see and you see the lectures and you see
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kind of people in a much more kind of genuine State and
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sometimes it really isn't pretty certainly wasn't so worried I
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just I didn't work really on the fence about His lawyer work for
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his intern for his lawyer, for a guy who's involved in the Vince
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Foster case. It was you just see, like people
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just didn't, they didn't want to cross that line, there were two
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interested in their careers or their reputation to ever tell
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the truth about anything. So like it's almost like the end
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of American Psycho telling everybody, I am Mass murdering
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people and everybody goes Bob, shut up.
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Have a drink, you know, and he's really trying to lay It out, at
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the end came out. Christian Bale was actor, but I
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mean it's almost kind of like that and they're weird
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conversations. Do people talk a lot about at
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least when I was there about, like, money, laundering, Swiss
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bank accounts, Luxembourg bank account.
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So there were clearly tit-for-tat under the table
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things happening all the time or are very often in my opinion.
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So and be some people got busted for it while I was there.
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But I would say it'd be a mix of things that Things differently.
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But it was interesting, it was definitely seeing things from
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inside the Beltway. It was kind of an eye-opener.
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I knew within the first year I was there, I was getting the
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hell out of DC. I didn't want any part of that.
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It's very gets very dark, very super competitive and a lot of
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blackmail and a lot of people just the gossip is off the
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charts. Everybody knows on everything
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about everybody and Yeah, that's that's completely different than
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like the image that's projected to like the rest of the world.
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You know, DC White clean, beautiful buildings.
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You know, this Mega Power House here on the on the world scene
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and you know I think about my wife, she's been here in America
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for like 10, 11 years and the first time she went to DC, she
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talks about have like having this image in her mind of what,
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you know, the city would be like, the people would be like
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and it's, she's like, never going back, you know, but it's
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interesting. It's your hear your side of it,
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like you. Actually you're there on the
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inside. Your kind of like well yeah,
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yeah the remember like I was born in Nebraska.
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I will have a kind of sounded Western been sensibility.
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Yeah, so I only saw what I saw on TV.
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Oh wow, I think I've been there a couple times just visiting,
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but I didn't know the internal kind of mechanics of how this
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stuff works. And like the past, you know, JFK
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issues a real issue. Like that.
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Still was an issue when I was there in the 90s, like, kill
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JFK, you don't talk about that either.
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And I had conversations are very Strange conversations were like,
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I was like, the budding conspiracy theorist.
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I don't know that. I know enough about JFK to know
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that that stories bologna, but I would be like talking to people
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like there's no way that our Lee Harvey Oswald could have done
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it. There were multiple Shooters and
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I would talk to a guy. I literally remember talking to
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guy who's looking at me like this.
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Oh wow. He's so he knew exactly what had
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happened. He knew what parts of my story
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were true and which were fake or which I didn't get.
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Right. So they new people new people on
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people who did it. I think the real world word got
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around like this is what we did to JFK.
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He got out of line, he really irritating, a lot of people.
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A lot of powerful people, you know, we're about to see the
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anniversary of 9/11 come up here and two days and there's been a
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lot of I'm since that happened. I remember exactly where I was,
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when 9/11 happened. I actually, I grew up in the
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Philadelphia area and Southeastern Pennsylvania, and I
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was in school and I'll never forget, you know, we had this
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big heavy tube TVs and one was up in the corner of the
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classroom and I was in history class was actually one of my
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favorite classes and the teacher walks over and well, first of
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those are knock on the door and he steps over to the door and
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the energy in the room just dropped.
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We could all tell by his demeanor and the look on his
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face, something. Saying, something's not right?
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And he walks over, I'll never forget.
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He flips on the TV and the whole classroom sap.
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Their silent for 15-20 minutes. Yeah, I mean there's images that
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are burnt and most all of our minds from that day.
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But I knew there was a shift even as a young kid, I mean, I'm
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in Jesus. I think I was intermediate or
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going into Middle School somewhere, somewhere around
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that. I'll just never forget the
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feeling I had. Do you remember where you were?
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Absolutely what you were doing when the towers got hit?
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Can you share that with? I was at home, I mean, it was
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the morning, so I was on the west coast and I just remember
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sitting down on, like my futon with why future wife, just said
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it actually, we were married now and take it back, just sitting
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there watching and I actually remember, we're going in, but I
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did not. I believe they fell down.
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So I was watching it and they said these towers are falling.
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I just was like my mind cannot register.
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I could not register that back but I was definitely a True
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Believer. My wife reminds me of that all
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the time. I really felt for the whole
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story Hook Line and Sinker it took me a bit to kind of
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realize. There was a lot of problems
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there, but yeah, no, I definitely remember exactly
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where I was. I've heard you do episodes, so
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with other people covering a lot of these details about 9/11, you
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know, I'm going to the whole thing.
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Here, I know definitely recommending my audience to come
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over and check out those episodes with you.
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And your audience is already be aware of it but there's so many
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things that lineup and this is only a couple of years ago,
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William that I became aware of. The depth of things that just
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kind of prove, there's so much more going on here and then
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seeing there's not that really healthy information.
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Your who do you go to with his kind of questions and when you,
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when you're thinking that like what's a solid platform where
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you can go and ask good questions, without some weird, a
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cultic ulterior motive in mind that they've really want to suck
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you in. And it's like, hold on.
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I just want to have a good conversation and get good
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information on it, so I don't know.
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It's really hard like it's kind of you when You're kind of going
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after the truth. It's kind of a lonely process.
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You come to trust certain, people were trying to tell you
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the truth. Not everybody knows all the
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details, but there was a couple people like, I like Jones from
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Utah. I thought he was kind of being
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honest and there was another Theologian.
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It was Edward Griffin, I think it was was his last name.
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He wrote a lot of books on 9/11. There's some good ones out
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there. I read I had a guest on my show.
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Black 911, I think he was doing work and there was people who
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went into this, Pacific parts of it, some people focused on the
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problems with the Pentagon, some people focused on, 93 flight, 93
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building. 7, Building 7 is really the linchpin for
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destroying the cold, full cover story because there's no way
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these guys accounted for building 7, it doesn't fit into
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the narrative and all but it's not easy and I think a lot of
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those introductory groups were probably set up.
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Either set up to be infiltrated or infiltrated so that the
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effectivity or anything productive coming from them
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systemically productive made sure that that would never
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happen. Are you aware of like ever being
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Shadow band? Or have you ever had any issues
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with talking about that top? Could anybody was above?
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I was banned from Above Top Secret in, like, 10 minutes like
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it's gone. I don't know if I've been Shadow
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band and some places, I definitely don't trust anything.
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Attack. I think Google's an evil
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Corporation. I think.
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Mark junk Mark Zuckerberg is evil and I don't say that
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lightly. I think from their actions, he
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paid 400 million dollars into like some slush fund.
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Have this outcome, which is Biden's Like A Nazi fascist,
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like a literal Nazi fascist nazi fascist imagery and they get
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away with it because they're from the left, like the left can
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never be fascist what a joke. So I think that these guys have
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really reshaped outcomes. I think that Trump did himself
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wrong because of his kind of Her personality and actually thought
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he was President, he was kind of like JFK like I think I'm
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president, I'm going to try to make decisions that are best for
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everybody and so they screwed him and I chose how much power
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the tech. Companies up, the Reliance upon
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the technology companies, Just turn the country into kind of
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like a dystopia. My opinion, kind of like
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rollerball where they could see huge combination of fashion.
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Like interrelated fascist power. And I mean, real fascist, not
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the kind of nonsense that the anti-fascist group and Tifa
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talks about which they have that language drift, which is also
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very dangerous to their left is very comfortable with the
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language drift and I have problems the right to I can.
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Well I come out of the right like I came out of Republicans
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so I'm not a robot. I'm not a registered.
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Yeah, I can push it to be accountable.
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Yeah, there should be accountability on both sides.
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You know, it reminds me of, you know, sometimes Jefferson
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Cliffs. I was reading recently and it's
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I believe there's a big difference between knowledge and
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wisdom. Personally, I think wisdom comes
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from the fear of fear of God, being mindful of how we're
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operating what the consistency of our life looks like, right?
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And people are watching these, we can say, whatever we want.
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William to people, going to look at the Rhythm.
21:44
Some of our life, right? And that's going to speak way
21:46
louder than anything else. And When we literally see a
21:51
million messages in a million signals that are causing all
21:54
kinds of waves of issues, within the Battlefield of the Mind here
21:59
in this country, all over the world.
22:01
But it's like, where do we draw the line?
22:03
And actually like introduce some humbleness and not choose one
22:07
side or the other, but find that middle ground is a hey I'm
22:10
inquiring you like I don't really know anything like I'm
22:13
here to I'm trying to learn, I would like to observe, right?
22:16
I'd like to challenge. And be a healthy skeptic.
22:19
Not the kind of stepping just trying to prove anything wrong,
22:21
but like, let's prove this, right?
22:23
And I think that my generation particularly the millennial
22:25
generation. We see the Techno pratik
22:29
membrane. The brain is just so sucked down
22:32
in engulfed into consumerism. What do I look like?
22:35
How am I perceived and people really forgetting the generation
22:40
before us, my parents generation?
22:41
I mean, calloused hands. Right?
22:43
I just did a post recently where I'm like, hey, shout out to all
22:45
the people with countless hands, you know?
22:47
This is nothing. Some people that that use the
22:50
muscle on top here to make their income or anything but it's just
22:52
recognizing that's that's a shortened window.
22:56
You know, I'm a factory worker. So I I've been at a large
22:59
company for about nine years and you know, we get raw materials
23:02
and literally dealing with engineer's, they have these
23:05
ideas and they bring us everything and we got to make
23:08
that happen for him, right? And that's a Dying.
23:10
Breed ma'am. It's hard to get good people
23:12
into the workforce right now. What I wanted to ask you is what
23:17
was your biggest Influence during you were talking earlier
23:20
about. I like yelling at the TV.
23:22
I'm so frustrated. I'm witnessing all of these
23:24
things going on around me and you're expressing, you're upset,
23:29
right? Did you have an influencer was
23:31
there? Like how did you handle that?
23:34
I don't know. I know nothing personal.
23:37
It was just going through and really sifting.
23:40
Yeah, it was like the threshing floor, you know.
23:42
Like you grow up the seed and the chaff chaff gets blowing.
23:46
There's a lot of trap out there. There's a lot As you are for
23:48
people who are very deceptive. There's a lot of cultists
23:51
floating around to who don't mind, deceiving people or
23:56
guiding people down the wrong path.
23:57
Way there are some of these Christians, the televangelists
24:02
like types, I think a lot of there's a lot of problems there,
24:08
some of these the dominions are really in it for the money in my
24:11
mind. Because if they really were
24:13
telling the truth, they would focus on a lot of problems.
24:16
Vaccines corruption, you almost never hear these Christians and
24:23
power today in the United States.
24:24
Complain about all the corruption.
24:25
I don't, maybe I'm not paying attention, but I don't know
24:28
because it's super corrupt or most corrupt.
24:33
But I can't really laid. I can't really lay like what I
24:38
did on anything. I mean I read I look through all
24:42
of Bill Cooper stuff, you know? So he's one of the original
24:45
alternative kind of people looking at things and I don't
24:51
like the word people have labeled me as a conspiracy
24:54
theorist or a conspiracist or I'm in the conspiracy community
24:58
and I reject that term, I would say I'm in the secret agenda.
25:03
Like what is this agenda? That somebody else has planned
25:06
for me that I don't know, because there's a lot of them,
25:09
there's a corporate Financial agenda, there's a cultural
25:12
agenda, there's an international globalist agenda, there are
25:18
academic. Agendas that really aren't
25:20
addressing. So those are the things I was
25:22
really looking into but so Bill Cooper, I think his work.
25:27
I mean he rejected kind of the UFO stuff that he got into, but
25:30
I think that he was really trying and I think that he He
25:33
and Dave McGowan comes to mind who's if I was fortunate they
25:37
were really the two people who keyed into 9/11 the same day, so
25:41
it was really for me, it was Bill Cooper and de Miguel.
25:43
I was fortunate to know. Dave McGowan, I was on a show
25:45
with him account. I went to his book signing of
25:48
the soup in La, when he published weird scenes, which is
25:52
very important. All his books are influential
25:55
program to kill, still bouncing around.
25:56
People are still going back to look at that as something about
26:00
the whole serial killer phenomena States. but he was
26:04
really one of the greats and so I would say Cooper.
26:09
I mean Cooper has a lot of You know, a lot of stuff and McGowan
26:13
was an atheist. I think I'm not gonna do this,
26:15
so I have different things but I think he was, he was really
26:21
trying to tell the truth. Okay.
26:24
So am Cooper and that's probably why Cooper?
26:27
I don't think the story of Cooper's, you know, he was
26:30
probably targeted. I mean I've seen people die.
26:33
So many journalists and stuff like that Hastings.
26:34
I live in LA. Michael Hastings.
26:36
Had his car blown up here. All right, on.
26:40
Melrose and Highland. I mean that's under that's a
26:46
pretty dicey thing, I'm used to it, you know, I'm used to all
26:49
this. Yeah.
26:51
So I want to ask you was there ever a case, or anything, you
26:56
looked into a rolling into the investigation going through the
27:00
process that you literally Were like were thrown this out.
27:04
It's too dark, it's too deep. I can't handle it.
27:07
What did you ever? You always got to the Bottom of
27:09
Everything. Didn't.
27:10
Well, you know, you go through and you go as this baloney.
27:13
Like I took a lot of flak for saying that the Hampstead was a
27:16
hoax, everybody bought that story of the two kids are
27:19
getting hit in the face with a spoon, coming back from Morocco
27:23
as like a real satanic thing. There's tons of problem really
27:26
satanic influence crimes. I mean, I went into West Memphis
27:30
Three, but when you go I'm in a kind of like Sensibility was to
27:34
really get to the bottom of these things.
27:36
So that was it from the very beginning, what's the real
27:38
truth? And like I said, it didn't come
27:40
out of some void, it came out of it.
27:44
Here's of experience of listening to bad job.
27:47
I mean, I looked at the West, Memphis Three.
27:49
And at that time when I wrote that and same with Croley,
27:52
actually, there were so many people who got things wrong, or
27:55
excise people, people will talk about Curly is like a dabbler.
27:58
That's whenever I see dabbling in the occult like I, like
28:02
inside of my brain. My eyes are all my back and I
28:04
head because it curly was anything but a dabbler.
28:07
He's probably one of the most accomplished Britain, the
28:10
history of written occultus in history because of the present
28:15
age, maybe Simon Magus out of the Bible, who Apocrypha it
28:20
fully contested with Peter but and was you know, is in the
28:25
Bible mention the Bible that magazine but I think that I've
28:29
never really back down like even the smiley face killings.
28:31
I like these are original perceptions.
28:33
My mind cruelly, don't know much about him, not very deep.
28:38
And then I started writing and then I was like he dedicated his
28:41
whole life all the way to the end of the occult.
28:43
Let's make history. And then I was like, oh, they
28:45
were wrongfully accused, and there must have been some
28:48
technicality, so they got out and then I started reading them.
28:51
Like, no, no, no. These guys were guilty twice,
28:54
they're still guilty. And there's tons of evidence.
28:57
There's a mountain of evidence and it's all been re verified by
29:01
the The appeals court in Arkansas.
29:06
So that was another one then like looking at how much glow
29:09
Crowley's influence, it's all over the place, it's secret its
29:11
sub Rosa but it's still there. So my perceptions change with
29:16
the kind of deeper inquiry but I don't think I've shied away from
29:20
any of the hardcore stories because like, the smiley face
29:22
Killer story is really hardcore. It means that there is like two
29:26
to three hundred guys who met their debt, some kind of really
29:29
horrible story Death. Very few people have keyed into
29:34
the guys who really, really courageous the Gilbertson again
29:38
and I given full credit that really were the ones who first
29:41
publicly talked about the pattern, but it's still going
29:44
on. Chicago had like five or ten
29:47
deaths, right back to back to back to back within a very short
29:50
three or four month period right after covid.
29:52
Kind of we were coming out of being locked down so and I watch
29:56
those cases like that's another one.
29:58
Like oh smiley face, Kelly Urban myth, this is a funny.
30:01
Story fireside chat where people can get freaked out and then I
30:05
watch the phenomenon happen to two guys, Jolla Buttes, and
30:10
Dakota James, Joe in the Butte in the Columbus, Ohio decoded,
30:14
fifth rookie. And I was like, Pittsburgh.
30:16
Yeah, I'm watching him. I'm watching him disappear,
30:18
being missing for three weeks, and then being found in water.
30:22
So, I mean, it's a real phenomenon.
30:24
And when they were found in water, what wasn't like, they
30:27
spent the whole time that they were missing in water, right?
30:30
That's the real person. About this year and this gets my
30:33
wheel spinning. I mean I have ideas but the
30:36
occult I think it just bleeds into so many areas that a lot of
30:39
people aren't aware of and not everything is is a cult driven
30:43
in my opinion? I don't know much.
30:45
But just from when I look at it, sometimes it just has that
30:49
Essence with it. We were like this is super dark
30:51
and it's connected. I don't think it's all the cool
30:53
driven, like there's a lot of these really hardcore dark
30:57
International dark rooms red rooms.
30:59
They called these are real. There was one in the
31:02
Philippines. I don't know if all those people
31:04
are cold like outright occultist, but if you're really
31:07
into the doctrines of the occult, those are the ideas that
31:11
will lead you to do these dark things.
31:14
Like if you're a do, what thou Wilt or then it's like, I do
31:16
whatever I want. I don't care.
31:17
Who cares. If I heard somebody else.
31:19
Who cares of this? Yeah, so the ones that I mean,
31:23
it's is interesting looking back at kind of my research.
31:27
How much of that? And I think it was from the
31:30
ignorance of thinking that this It doesn't exist like I had a
31:33
superficial understanding, like, how are the?
31:37
I mean I've heard of Manson, I heard the family I've heard of,
31:39
but are people really seriously involved in these groups that
31:43
have secrecy. And the bonding rituals things
31:46
that they do like a like like not like the Crips or something,
31:51
you know. Yeah.
31:52
Like and the answer is yeah yes they did.
31:55
I mean I'm having answered that to my own personal satisfaction
32:00
That's a person who was never involved in, like a Coltrane.
32:04
Yeah, that's scary. Because There's a lot of people
32:08
that well not many people that learn that the hard way either
32:12
from coming across an experience or, you know, being a little too
32:18
close for comfort and then, you know, majority of people just
32:22
have no idea what's really going on at times.
32:24
I see a lot of us the symbolism, right?
32:27
You see it, especially in music and Now, there's something to
32:30
that now. Obviously, I like to consider
32:33
like okay well who was the producer that song, okay?
32:36
The same producer who did the song so maybe it's just a style
32:39
door going for, but it's never quite as it seems at first
32:43
glance. As I'm kind of learning, it's
32:44
always kind of what's going on behind the scenes and it's
32:48
always a little bit deeper and darker more Twisted than what
32:51
could first be. Thought of are identified by
32:54
what, you know, whatever internet YouTube video that you
32:56
come across. And they're like, oh this is
33:00
Pump the brakes, slow down, do the research let the time set
33:03
in. And like you said, even just now
33:06
talking with you, I'm like, I get that feeling, you got that
33:09
look in your eyes, man, like when you said I don't back down
33:12
there, I'm getting to the bottom of the Barrel in any case that
33:13
you put your mind to. We need to see that more men and
33:17
women today. We need to see that kind of
33:18
audacity where it's like, I think Thomas Jefferson said it
33:21
like this. He said, listen, Float with the
33:24
current easily when it comes to the simple and easy things,
33:29
right? But be a unmovable Rock when it
33:31
comes to morals, right? When it comes to the truthful,
33:33
things I'm paraphrasing him there, but in a nutshell, that's
33:36
one of the quotes that I really liked by hand, because what it
33:39
did for my mind is go, I'm a rare breed, even if I am of that
33:44
stock, I don't know. I like to think that I'm on the
33:46
path of trying to figure some stuff out.
33:48
I look at a guy like you and there's plenty of other people
33:50
and plug in that category where I go.
33:52
You know what we do? Everything.
33:54
Right? I believe each one of us has a
33:55
little something wrong, but when people are in it for the right
33:59
reason, right? When you are involved with no,
34:04
ulterior motive, mind of, in fact, that like the by in the
34:07
Bible says this have no works with fruitless seeds of
34:11
Darkness, right? You got expose that unfruitful
34:14
things of Darkness but it's puzzle, right?
34:15
That's yes. And all he's in, 612 nose.
34:20
Mmm. I'd say but I can't connect.
34:27
Can I read something here real quick?
34:29
Yeah, sure please. So I wrote this down years ago.
34:32
I'm not a religious guy I believe.
34:34
And I have my reasons to believe what I believe, but it was about
34:37
eight years ago that I surrendered my heart to Christ.
34:42
Okay, I didn't grow up in the church was kind of like one of
34:44
those Easter Christmas church guys.
34:47
And I've read a couple books and I was literally being
34:49
challenged. My mind is, I had to reinvent
34:53
myself, I had to lose the old identity and learn how to
34:56
operate different. And this quote right here, it's
34:59
not a, not a Bible quote, but it struck me, then as it does every
35:04
time I read it now. So, It's not the critic, who
35:08
counts? Not the man, who points out how
35:11
the strong man stumbles or where the doer of Good Deed could have
35:14
done better. The credit belongs to the man
35:18
who is actually in the arena whose face is marred by dust and
35:22
sweat and blood. Who strives valiantly, he knows
35:27
the great enthusiasms, the great devotions. he spends himself in
35:33
a worthy cause who at the best knows in the end, the Triumph of
35:37
high achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least
35:41
fails, while daring greatly so that his place shall never be
35:45
with those cold and timid Souls who neither know Victory or
35:48
defeat that was Teddy Roosevelt and Where's that generation at?
35:56
You know, for all the listeners out there right now, you guys
36:00
Where's that generation at? This is, this is a calling to
36:02
just be serious about the way you're processing.
36:07
The information that is floating around out there, whatever Camp
36:10
you're coming from. I believe there's a middle
36:12
ground, I think it starts first and foremost with humility and
36:15
listening, a little bit more than we talk and giving credit
36:18
where credit is due and being in the arena and not complaining so
36:22
much when we're roughed up a little bit that builds character
36:26
by the way. I mean, I think from the
36:29
Christian who you mentioned Paul like he says you are going to
36:32
have these complex even Christ has to write.
36:34
Like you, they don't lay it out like this is a big field of
36:38
roses. You're going to be at peace.
36:41
No, it's the off listening to become a wild.
36:43
For my name going to be reviled for my name, you're going to be
36:46
persecuted. I mean, the, the Beatitudes is
36:49
like blessed, those were persecuted for righteousness, it
36:51
happens. So, I mean, from my perspective,
36:54
it wasn't like I didn't, I wasn't naive about that.
36:58
Mmm. And some incredible.
37:00
I've had incredible experiences. I cannot divulge.
37:04
I cannot have multiple. Share one or two or three.
37:05
You can see that? No, no, I can't.
37:08
Jeez. Okay, make me wait, man.
37:12
That's tough. We're in a deep buried, tough
37:13
spot. I don't know.
37:15
So I think that, I think that what we're doing right now is a
37:20
great Benefit and virtue because it's an end-around between this
37:25
whole corrupt informational system media system.
37:29
That's, I mean, can you believe that we live in a country that
37:32
they're actively censoring people like it's incredible.
37:35
They're not even giving them that their constitutional
37:38
prerogative, right? Like I mean the these companies
37:40
all had the benefit of the Constitution have for their
37:43
rights, to create their businesses under the law, but
37:46
you don't get it passed through, it's unbelievable.
37:48
And the fact that, I mean, they're finding out these
37:51
lawsuits, Coming out of the Midwest, Iowa Schmidt from
37:54
Missouri, maybe who is starting to get these documents from the
37:58
CDC and fauci that the government.
38:01
And these guys are actually coming in behind the tech
38:03
companies to selectively sensor. People that is textbook fascism
38:07
that is dangerous. It's evil.
38:09
We've already gone through this fascist past.
38:11
We know it's bad. We don't want to re go through
38:13
this. So these people need to be
38:16
brought into some form of account for their wrongdoing,
38:19
and I don't think that the career I won't even It's called
38:25
the department took our apartment of Jay.
38:27
I can't even say that word applying to the current deal
38:31
doj. I can't even say that.
38:33
So we're we're in a difficult spot.
38:36
I don't trust these people to do the right thing at all.
38:38
I don't think the justice is going to come out of Washington
38:41
and somebody's live there. It's going to come from the
38:42
states, people coming up through the state's.
38:45
I wouldn't even go through Washington.
38:46
I would just go through your State Rep, your state
38:49
legislature, your governor. That's probably much more
38:53
efficacious spending of time with the actual individual than.
38:58
Yeah, I love the fact that you, I advise you said, you're acting
39:00
for that. Would be mine, and I put
39:02
everything in writing, put it in writing, like, I don't agree
39:05
with this. I don't want this.
39:06
I don't think that this is right.
39:08
I don't think that, this kind of censorship is productive because
39:11
you need live more uncensored right now, we're changing
39:13
information. That's how you kind of build on
39:16
our. We can say iron sharpens, iron,
39:19
whatever A lot of the times people are Or using all of their
39:23
energy and their Focus. Right?
39:25
To just complain and nothing else and it's like, literally go
39:28
plug yourself in. Right?
39:29
If you don't like the way the school systems working, go do
39:31
need some time there. Be a part of that go observe,
39:34
right absorb what's going on there and a homeschool your kids
39:38
right or homes we're kind of in this nice little bubble here in
39:41
South Eastern PA where it's not too bad but we're very We're In
39:45
the Heat of it okay. We're in the midst of a lot of
39:47
chaos and you have walking by faith and not by sight is It's
39:52
more, it's imperative. We, we who claim to believe in
39:55
the faith or God. I think that's going to be
39:58
tested. But what I was getting at
40:00
William is, like, I see a very, very small amount of people that
40:05
are actually walking with their talking.
40:07
So, like, I love the fact that we have the opportunity like
40:12
today's the day, right? It's like we don't want to be
40:15
the wicked person who's like, we're holding on to our money
40:18
where Desiring to make more money.
40:20
And every morning we wake up We're counting our seeds and say
40:23
that tomorrow, I'll go out and plan.
40:25
I don't think that's the right mentality.
40:27
I think, literally today's the day, like, talk with your
40:29
neighbors. I'm not talking about extremism
40:31
on its own people. I'll go start.
40:32
This is that no, by the way, we carry and conduct ourselves is
40:36
going to be how people are attracted to us as if we're the
40:41
salt of the world, right? And I love, honestly, I love the
40:45
diversity of the people that I've had on the show just
40:48
because it I'm trying to demonstrate guys.
40:52
Respectful conversation first, all and treat an elder like an
40:56
elder, right? You know, give them some honor
40:58
and hear people out. And man, I literally I just
41:02
wanted to compliment you on this because I was, you've been in my
41:05
ear of last couple days. Obviously, as I've been
41:06
prepping, you know, and just kind of like listening to some
41:10
of your stuff out of their own pockets and I'm thinking,
41:13
There's only a couple people that got you like upset, like
41:16
there's people trying to talk over you and being respectful
41:18
and your stove. Hey you give them space.
41:20
All right? Yeah, and the one guy you're
41:23
like everything you got, like, give me everything before I
41:26
respond at all, because the guy had attended just trying to
41:28
steamroll you and I'm like you don't see that either, right?
41:32
Like they're really demonstrating.
41:34
Just how to have a good. Disagreement is so important.
41:37
People are so emotionally involved that as soon as their
41:41
emotions are. My feelings are hurt or the way
41:45
that I view, this isn't being accepted as all the sun, I can't
41:48
even handle myself. I can't even look this person.
41:49
The eyes and carry out of cordial conversation.
41:52
So I wanted to compliment you on that because I listen to a lot
41:55
of different shows and some really wild stuff going on, man.
42:00
It's not different. And I think I try to keep my
42:03
show. I don't try to like, it's not a
42:05
comedy show, but I don't mind conflict.
42:08
I mean, I had the two flat Earth guys.
42:09
Those are probably the worst ones like, where we argued the
42:12
most I mean, some of these subjects, I know pretty well.
42:15
I know the West. Memphis Three pretty well.
42:17
I've Had The Misfortune of studying, a lot of cruelly, I'm
42:20
not a practitioner so that, you know, these are subjects that I
42:22
know. So when somebody like starts
42:24
putting in PR stuff nonsense, like, I just had one recently
42:28
really a woman. She just repeated everything
42:31
from their West, Memphis Three, PR for like 90 minutes and it
42:34
was incredible. I just it was like just firing
42:37
everyone. Okay.
42:38
But the thing is that I've been You know, we butting or
42:43
responding to those four decade like I wrote that book a decade
42:46
ago, I was 10 years ago so I mean I've seen all the
42:51
arguments, I know, I know, I know that case record pre pretty
42:55
good. Now William I want to ask you,
42:58
what do you think is the most important message for the
43:01
millennial generation today? What's the most important
43:05
message? I think you have to see the
43:07
spiritual events that are happening today that you're
43:10
seeing The days of Noah come in right now, in my opinion, like
43:15
the Book of Revelation is unraveling as we speak in a
43:19
strange way. Like, imagine a.document that
43:22
people looked at in the standard Canon and said, why is this book
43:27
here? I think even Luther wanted to
43:28
take the Book of Revelation out because he couldn't see its
43:32
application. Like you just thought it was
43:34
some kind of weird dream but you're seeing it right now like
43:37
these people have very dark views towards other 'Well, and
43:42
you have to really be care. Like the people who didn't see
43:44
what was happening with the Nazis.
43:46
They didn't see what could happen.
43:47
Exactly. You really have to see what's
43:49
happening now. So I would say that I mean, is
43:52
goes back to the spiritual worldview, Christian worldview,
43:56
but you have to kind of get it yourself.
43:57
I do. I mean, it's really worthwhile
44:01
to read the Bible yourself and ruminate on yourself in prayer.
44:05
Is that for me was the most important thing, not to actually
44:09
see what somebody else was saying about it.
44:11
But cc4, I think the gospels are very well-written.
44:15
Somebody put a lot of thought and effort in there because
44:17
there's even things in there that you wouldn't even include
44:21
in a sermon or something, like they clearly are just trying to
44:24
be as authentic to the story because there's a lot.
44:29
I mean, even like the Lord's, you know, railing in Jerusalem,
44:34
like, you always never hear that, that's why you have to
44:36
read it yourself. Greatest love story ever told
44:39
right? But I mean, it's more than that
44:41
because, yes, it's not just, I mean, you can see like, hey,
44:45
this is Dan. How Can You Escape damnation?
44:49
It's, he was against the kind of injustices of the time.
44:53
That's why he ended up the way it did.
44:56
I mean, all had to happen for it all happen for a reason, but
44:59
That stuff that those narratives are left out.
45:01
I think in it may not just because it's just not a right
45:04
over the right place for a Pulpit on a Sunday.
45:06
It's not a moral lesson, but I think it is a moral lesson.
45:10
I would write. So I recommend I highly
45:12
recommend people get a good copy of the Bible that advice would
45:16
be contrary to like, what the Catholic Church says, right?
45:19
It's like absolutely Nick. Price can tell you what's in
45:22
there. Hey, but you know, there's
45:23
priestcraft that there's also Pastor craft.
45:26
They love us, modern, Students aren't immune.
45:30
They would love to point at the priests for their sins which are
45:34
manifold. Everything I look at on my shows
45:37
through what I consider to be a Biblical filter, my aspirations
45:41
at way my education all day every day.
45:43
But the way I look at it is If I'm not focusing on loving my
45:47
neighbor, right? And if I'm not focusing on, like
45:50
being the head of my house on which means I'm trying my best
45:53
failing all the time, I'm not a good example of this, but I try
45:56
to carry out the fact that I include God in everything.
45:59
I try to read a lie and I'm trying to honor my wife and my
46:02
three kids. I'm trying to literally give
46:04
them the best that I can offer. I didn't come from a rich
46:07
family. I didn't come from a college
46:08
family, very hard working class people that are coming from and
46:14
That's that's like the Forefront of my battle like, everything.
46:17
Like, I made a post recently where I'm saying.
46:19
Listen, I'm a part-time podcaster working on my
46:22
relationship with God, as I fail forward, and my wife and my
46:26
workflow. In that order, most important,
46:29
things hands down, all that other stuff, super important.
46:32
And that's why it's like, I feel like we have such an issue with
46:35
Colin men for because men can't even figure out what they
46:38
believe first and foremost. So how are they going to be able
46:41
to walk in and have, you know that power with Because they
46:44
believe something there that placebo effect, right?
46:48
There's power and belief, man, we can prove that just through
46:51
scientific observation of a doctor, giving you a sugar pill
46:54
and you can heal whatever your ailment is.
46:56
Let's say you have a headache or inflammation in your knee and it
46:59
gives you a sugar pill but you're actually able to your
47:02
body. So wonderfully and fearfully
47:03
created, it can heal itself. So this power and belief even on
47:06
the bad side and the good side, there's power in both.
47:09
There's a power source The camp of light, you know, God and his
47:15
his son who he loved dearly who covered that chasm.
47:18
In order for us to have the audacity to challenge these
47:22
things, knowing right from wrong.
47:24
And I think about this in this, like we got to stir up men, to
47:28
be excited about the Bible, right?
47:30
Like they're always excited about like, whatever the cool
47:32
new movie is, or you know, whatever football comes on and
47:35
believe me, I played football for Years love football.
47:38
But to be more excited about those things.
47:42
And completely blinded to the reality of the destruction.
47:45
That is going on all around us on so many different levels.
47:49
I can't even get into the topic because I'll just, I'll start
47:51
some linear myself. It goes so deep, and it's so
47:53
dark. A lot of the times.
47:59
It can be too late for people. And that hurts.
48:03
If you actually love your neighbor to see people
48:06
destroying themselves because I was that guy eight years ago and
48:10
I believe in the power of sanctification and I believe in
48:13
the power of literally, forgiving people start their and
48:17
hey, to any listeners out there, start with forgiving yourself be
48:22
so hard on yourself. We need to call these men to
48:26
come forward and have some backbone.
48:27
You guys need to figure out what you believe in.
48:28
And listen, if you disagree with what I believe in.
48:30
Cool, man, I still want to talk with you.
48:32
I still want to hear what you have to say.
48:34
I'm not trying to ask you to believe in what I believe.
48:36
Or try to reiterate with William believes or beliefs.
48:40
Something believe something in the days we live in and make a
48:44
choice. Because you're right, William
48:46
with all of this going on. It's not very good right now.
48:49
I try to use every opportunity I can, I do a lot of what I do on
48:53
like a one-on-one basis. These opportunities for me are
48:55
so unique. I'm so happy that I'm able to
48:58
talk with you and and connect on this level.
49:01
That feels good, man. It feels good.
49:05
Me too. I mean I think that's kind of
49:07
like why I put a lot of my stuff out there is like they can look
49:10
and go. This is what he thinks at any
49:12
given time. Somebody can go back through, on
49:14
whatever subject I do. Try to research all my books and
49:18
on those issues, I don't go into them blind.
49:21
I don't think I've ever really done a show.
49:24
Really maybe one or two, where I didn't really try to prepare
49:27
that be thoughtful. So you can look at all's, I've
49:30
done a lot of Christian shows, I'm going to have a whole set
49:32
aside. Christianity Today, just like a
49:35
whole podcast by itself. You just want to focus on that
49:38
not on my talking to other people.
49:39
I've talked to a lot of Jews of talk to Catholics talked to you.
49:44
I talked to a gnostic the other day, a lot of pro, lot of
49:48
problems from a Christian perspective, but I talked to a
49:50
couple gnostics actually but I'm not afraid to talk about it but
49:54
I haven't changed my they haven't changed my outlook
49:57
anyway. I think I've talked to a couple
49:58
of cultists to but yeah, so I think it I think that that's the
50:03
benefit of it being there is that somebody can come back and
50:05
go. Okay, I'm interested in seeing
50:07
this. They get edified and not
50:09
entertained, we kind of are drowning in entertainment were
50:11
over in Turin, info tained right now, or Sports teenagers.
50:16
So, yeah, it's much better for people to get edified, really?
50:19
See these very important topics, that impact, the things aren't
50:22
going to get better. Inflation is not good.
50:26
Open borders isn't good. Huge financial is interest
50:30
buying up houses so that the middle class can't buy or own
50:33
anything disaster. The world economic forum is a
50:37
disaster. So we're up against Real
50:40
different enemies. It's much easier to identify the
50:43
enemies of in World War Two. The ones now because it's much
50:46
more three-dimensional, you're 100% right about that.
50:51
My mind does this ready as agreeing with you?
50:55
And I see what I see that's going on my little glimmers into
51:00
certain things that really bother me.
51:02
I think. Thank God I'm reminded of he
51:05
whose grave is the majority live even if there's like one or two
51:09
you? So like even though it's like
51:10
nobody else comes up and like gets a backbone and actually
51:12
starts to like deal with these things.
51:14
We're the majority man. I truly believe that power is
51:18
going to come from the big guy top man. it's his will that
51:22
works through us and in us and causing us to do his good work
51:26
and man that dude I really enjoyed this conversation and
51:33
it's like I got a lot from it. Honestly I'm trying to Model A
51:37
little bit of my show after what I see you doing which is
51:40
covering such a diversity of topics that nobody can just slap
51:43
a label on like that people may say, oh your conspiracy
51:46
theorists are you're cool with that group of people.
51:48
It's like, listen, I'm cool with anybody who knows how to be
51:51
cool, but like we can meet and have these conversations and
51:54
there's I tell people all the time, the shows, like, I don't
51:56
agree with everything I hear on. So, I'm not asking anybody to
51:59
agree with everything they hear, if you're tuning in, what?
52:02
Use your critical thinking, make your own choice, right?
52:05
Just right. And you can pick and choose
52:06
Rock, right? Just chopping it up on those
52:10
topics is a good way because anything that we may share or
52:14
have experience or digging into that, could be the survival
52:17
guide for somebody else, you've never met before.
52:19
So true, you know, you can sustain a key part that they
52:23
needed to hear in order to like get over a fear or two to make a
52:27
connection. Like we don't know how far the
52:29
ripple effect goes well like individually.
52:31
We have no idea how deep it goes.
52:33
I believe someday, we're going to know, William someday, we're
52:35
gonna see the Marvel of him. Oh my gosh, like, here I am
52:39
thinking. I was like, you know, doing
52:41
something great here in like everything that really great was
52:44
happening, was just, I've had very strange events.
52:47
Like I wasn't really that much that public until maybe the last
52:50
three or For years. I was kind of just writing books
52:53
but even then, when I put stuff out, people would recognize me.
52:57
I'd be at the store or something like that.
52:59
It's like fight club or something.
53:00
They would just look at me and go and I would look back at them
53:02
and go. And now visit never change
53:05
words, I be inlined just, you know, checking out with
53:08
groceries. Please do not go.
53:14
Is that what that my point is? Is that's the Ripple?
53:16
I don't know. I've been on that's why I almost
53:18
go on every show that includes me.
53:20
I don't know where it goes. Like I was on have been on so
53:23
many different shows. Different types of people
53:24
different Christian Fringe, when I first came out, our first
53:27
wrote, my first book, I was on Christian friend shows, you
53:29
know, they weren't, I never got him.
53:32
I don't think I maybe Skywatch, I can't think of really any big
53:35
Christian show or anything church or anything.
53:39
That's it for invited me. These small shows but then
53:43
people go, man, he's ideas. They sent a crazy and then they
53:46
go. Let me check this out a little
53:49
bit more. Yeah, I don't know.
53:52
I've never I've never been called to go on a Pulpit or But
53:56
it does. I mean the power of this thing
53:58
is this ripple effect? You don't really know.
54:00
I don't know, there's a couple messages and emails that I
54:05
remind myself of when I'm like kind of like going through a
54:08
season where it's like this is you know, something's coming up
54:11
against you and it's consuming all of that time and you kind of
54:14
feel that negative vibe coming off on you.
54:17
There's a couple people that have Very in a very short
54:22
manner, true to the point delivered.
54:25
Some information to me that when I read it, I knew it's almost.
54:28
Like when you, you just send you look at somebody else and they
54:30
have that look and you just nod your head.
54:31
When I read that message, I just knew I could feel.
54:35
This is a real person who's dealt with real issues who
54:39
really got something out of, I don't know.
54:43
Some people call it a Ministry, I don't know, just go to
54:45
podcasts in the guy next door. I'm asking weird questions.
54:47
I'm, you know, chopping it up, trying to learn trying to Have a
54:51
wider Spectrum than just what YouTube is willing to show me
54:55
right now. And not good, dude.
54:59
I watch YouTube on time to learn how to like fix.
55:01
A part of my car is like I'm crazy idea to.
55:03
I use it for that. Yeah.
55:05
But you can go down some really weird.
55:08
You spend an hour or two on YouTube, start with one video
55:10
and just literally document where you go where you end up
55:13
at. It's like that's not by
55:14
accident. So I have had people call my
55:17
show a Ministry though that's is interesting.
55:19
Like, I don't think of it as a Ministry, I think of it, more of
55:21
like information, like kind of Evergreen Information I think is
55:28
would be accurate but, you know, I do a lot of cry mean.
55:31
Most of my stuff is it's all like the substructures all
55:35
Christian. It's Not Over.
55:39
Not a big fan of the way that history has been.
55:43
When we look at what the church has done and what's been going
55:46
on in all the division, I'm not a big fan of that.
55:47
I have a better idea of what the future could look like if we
55:52
introduce some humility. And we started to allow the
55:55
miners to be with the miners in the majors with the majors only
55:58
important topics when it comes to the church.
55:59
Right. But I was in a parking lot and
56:03
I'm just doing what it is that I do is like I will talk with I'm
56:07
like a magnet for people just like talking with me which I
56:09
love that, you know, and this older Italian guy, we were
56:13
talking, you know, I'm like dude I got like five minutes.
56:16
I've never met this guy before, kind of like, hey, I got to get
56:18
moving, half an hour into it. You know, he's got me on the
56:21
line, I'm like we're chopping up going back and forth and he
56:24
stops puts his hands on his hips and Squints at me and gets real
56:27
close and says you should be a minister.
56:30
You should get out of that clothes and go dress up and be a
56:32
minister. And I said, I am a minister.
56:34
I'm Minister it to you, right? Most of the real Ministry and a
56:46
lot of my listeners, know, this and friends and family.
56:49
Like it happens in the parking lot doesn't happen in the four
56:52
corners. It doesn't mean it can't happen
56:54
in those four corners. I don't want to Rob nothing from
56:56
them. I believe there's people that
56:57
are diligent, it says, you're do good to all, but especially to
57:00
those of the house of the Lord, if they're preaching Christ
57:02
crucified and resurrected, listen, I'll support you.
57:06
Ministry happens outside of that too.
57:08
But it takes a backbone to be in God's calling in to do that kind
57:12
of stuff man. I look at your show as a
57:14
Ministry. You don't even throw a person
57:16
late. A lot of times I deal with
57:17
people. I don't even talk about like I
57:18
don't bring Bob versus I just talked to him about.
57:21
Listen, this is what I really had dealt with your talent of.
57:24
You're telling me what you're going through and reciprocating
57:25
you on what I did, how I felt people built.
57:28
They build trust with you and then they start to go man,
57:30
what's different about you? And it's like, wow I repented
57:34
there was a lifting off from us, all right?
57:36
You know, my experience people just getting on their level
57:39
meeting them, where they're at. But I feel like there's there's
57:42
some importance here when you see evangelist running around
57:45
out there with the Bible and they're just like, if you don't
57:47
believe this, you're going to hell.
57:49
It's like, you have no idea. If the ripple effect in that
57:52
person's life, right now is stirring them to come to the
57:56
identification of I need to repent and I've been living
57:59
wrong, right? And yeah, something's not right
58:01
with my like, I don't like my outcomes.
58:03
I need to change and literally The British military.
58:06
They would March if they repent and they would turn right.
58:09
Like, I literally need to turn from this way that I've been
58:12
going and reinvent myself, but people want to run around out
58:15
there and slap them with, you know, both from song, I don't
58:18
know. Seminary School guy has a piece
58:21
of paper and he's saying do it this way or else you're not
58:24
included. I think we're missing the very
58:27
people were going after by doing it that way.
58:29
So, I'm not saying is wrong, there's times where it's like,
58:31
listen, have you heard the good news, but meeting people where
58:34
they're at. If you guys believe this, Be
58:37
genuine. Slow down.
58:40
Pay attention. Watch try to, you know, try to
58:43
feel what people are going through.
58:45
We've all been there. None of us are exempt.
58:48
William keep exposing the darkness.
58:49
Do not grow weary in doing good man, because in due season,
58:52
we're going to read to read, man.
58:54
Thank you. But wise, it's been great to be
58:56
with you. You have anything you want to
58:59
add before we hit the non record button time, short time is short
59:05
so don't talk like that. You are the reason I'm grateful.
59:32
You are worthy. You are worthy of my prayers and
59:35
you're worthy of my Praises. I pray to you every day just
59:39
like David. You took me from the streets but
59:41
you brought me back to you. You cleaned up my life because
59:44
this is what you do. People got their opinions but
59:47
I'm sticking to the course Miss Cappy.
59:49
Just can't to show me like yours, truly short.
59:51
You are the reason why I gotta keep grabbing and I'm grateful
59:55
for your love and no I'm not asking you.
59:58
The reason for your mercy that you had on
1:00:22
my life, even when I was getting high with talk to you with
1:00:25
nights, I seen people die from this.
1:00:28
Things I did at 25 years old I had my first kid.
1:00:32
My life started to change. I knew I wanted a better in my
1:00:35
lifetime. Yeah I seen it a lot of Jetta
1:00:38
people got her family members turn to me, my heart needed.
1:00:41
Real repair, I need a surgery. You came through in the clutch,
1:00:45
even when I gave up, Lord You Are My Savior so I'm never
1:00:48
giving up your worth of the Praises.
1:00:50
That's why I Sing Praises. I love you.
1:00:53
Jesus Christ, that's why you are my savior.
1:00:56
You know what Laura, the wasn't for you?
1:00:58
I wouldn't even be here. You know.
1:01:00
Everybody might not understand my calling in life, but I know
1:01:04
you and I'm thankful. I'm grateful, you're worthy
1:01:30
before. I finished up the song, I Gotta
1:01:32
Give credit. Lord.
1:01:33
You help me with my ATM. And that's a debit.
1:01:36
I'm purchasing things. Now, I gotta sneak a fetish.
1:01:39
I'm like, them Pumas over there. Get it.
1:01:41
Look, reddish. So whom much is given also
1:01:43
allowed to fire. Your word is gonna say and I
1:01:46
gotta press through the flyer. The kind of me has messed up,
1:01:49
but I still got hired if it's your plan, one day, I can hire
1:01:53
you. You're worthy.
1:02:01
I'm grateful. You're worthy.
1:02:05
You are the reason I'm grateful. You are worthy.
1:02:10
You are worthy.